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74: Facts + Tax · Wine & Audacity

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Mm hmmm, oh, ship. The second one is the true crime,
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right, yes it is. We're already recording it now, we already recording
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you young hush ship, he says, over there drinking that fucking moonshine.
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Hey, I try to try that one. That one was good. Oh
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yeah, I can go take a nap mm hmm yeah, throw a loader,
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clothes in the wash machine, and go back to street. That's the
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good thing about Saturdays. That Saturdays and you ain't got nothing playing. I
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mean Wednesdays. So this is is definitely first Wednesday in July. Oh lord,
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that was fair. Go fourth of July them all, y'all, Yes,
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it is, y'all. Know where I'll be at I'm off I'll be
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hanging. Let's see. I'll be behind the bar at betty ant House.
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So my aunt, my aunt's sister in law, my uncle, his sister
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and her husband are having a cookout tomorrow. So I'm going by there in
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a county AKA no man's land, No man's land AK Baltimore. Ocean City,
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you know, glen Burney is Ocean City is glen Burney by the sea.
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I saw that ship online and it's just so funny. That was a
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couple of months ago. So for those of y'all who are on the way
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with Maryland and counties and stuff, you know, and County Maryland is the
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hometop state capital in Napolis. It's also a very odd place. And when
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I say odd, I mean it's just this is it's weird. It's like
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it's like it's like it's like the downstairs room, like you don't go you
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don't go there because it's just off. You're like Uncle Pete. You see
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it, but you try to avoid it on call. Set something outside the
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door and keep on. Yeah, it's where a lot of a lot of
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a lot of white folks live. There's nothing wrong with that, you know,
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to our white listeners. We love y'all, we do. But it's
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just a weird place. It's not not because it's of the white people,
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but weirder is done dark Child. It is home to to local celebrities.
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The Braxtons are sixty four of them. You know, stay from seven,
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you know, shout out to the Braxtons. I'm so scaredy because they don't
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want to put fear in my hope. Was Tracey go rest her soul?
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Because she looked like upside your head and maybe maybe Mama Avalan. Oh yeah,
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yeah, she said she used to have a mean two piece back in
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the day. I feel like I could take the rest of them. No,
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I mean it doesn't. It doesn't count because they left. They left
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the county, but like thirty years ago, so when you first had a
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big I think, I think they don't move to Atlanta. But anyway,
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County to me, think the brother still in Maryland, Maryland. Yeah,
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they lived in they lived in southern Maryland, Charles County anyway, talk about
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people's business for me, and County is no man's land. The place is
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just weird to me. I don't, I don't, I don't really.
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It don't curl all the way over for me, like I think, you
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know, like a half curl bang. It just not a half curl,
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you know when you put it in, shake it up and take it out,
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and it got the little hump in it, but it didn't actually curl
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them Pinkudget put the curl in the back and Ben bene wrest not I said,
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he said, I mean, whatever works, because how you do anyway.
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Welcome to this huge episode of Wine and Audacity the podcast. I'm your
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host, Brandon's a card and I'm joined by two of my three favorite people
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in the world. How you're feeling this week, I'm cool and I'm chilling
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them straight boo. Not the French nigga best still day is in like eleven
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days. You were not even this, not even next week talking French and
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ship. I learned from not that niggas. Pepper shout out to Peopular Pido.
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We missed you. Peopular Pup was a person skunk he was, he
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was not. He was sexually harassing that damn skunk she was. She was
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fucking devastating. Wasn't a cat with a black like white streak? Yeah?
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Always, yeah, he thought she was a damn skunk, So we don't
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know the We don't know the maiden rituals of a skunk. Her face said
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she didn't want it because that's because she was a cat, and then niggas
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smelled like ass. She didn't want it. It's crazy because all he doing
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is acting on impulses and you know his his niggas in jail. No,
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you can't because he thought he was a cat. I mean, he thought
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she was a skunk. He didn't get consent. We don't know to make
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which was of skunks. You know, these animals don't be asking for consent.
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Like the lion just roll up on you. They just shoot. They
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asked your face, Freddy glens on you yep, go already, pretty much
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like the polar baskets. Baltimore. Shut the fuck? What what I say?
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My bad? Sorry, that's what I heard. Little River Roads,
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That's what I do. That's what my cousin told me. Middle River,
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not Middle River East Eastern ninety five. I can't. I'm so glad.
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My cousins just moved from Middle River. She bought a house closed of town.
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I said, girl, bless you, blessing you was backing, and
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I was nervous. Baltimore, once you get past, more for me,
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pass the road right road. I can't. I can't help Minnesota Avenue.
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What is innocent Highway? I went over my fucking man. A couple of
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weeks ago, one of my girlfriends gave her son and graduation cookout. She
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lives all the way east like or an other opposite in the Northern Parkway East
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Northern Parkway. I was like, God, damn, am I app gonna
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stop driving. I'm just driving down North Parkway like outdn't pass Valentinos. I'm
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east east, bitch, like, oh Valentinos ways, pop Baker. It
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was like in one thousand feet make it ray. It's about time, bitch,
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because I've been driving straight for two hours. It was really on me,
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Like I mean, it was rush hour, so it took probably ten
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to fifteen minutes long as than normally. Where the fuck it took me to
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get over that's out of town? But got that it was a lot.
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Well, we were after your grandfather passed, and you know, we all
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went to the funeral again rest the pieces of tips pop long lived pop up.
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We left the church, of course, and we were in the motiicade
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to go. Is that the right town motcade possession funeral processional, Yeah,
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funeral motivated to go to the burial plot cemetery, and of course it was
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over. The cemetery and the church were both in East Baltimore. And like
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I said, once you get me past bel Air Road, I can't.
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I don't know nothing, to be honest, but you could be east of
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Morgan State, you know, go bears. I don't know nothing about it.
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I got put because old spring healing is what I know. I was
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there for long enough. I know that, but road once you get the
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echoed parent easter parents the walker. I don't know anyway. We were driving
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through. I was in the call of Key, her mother and her sister,
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and we were driving and turning down the East Chase Street around this corner
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Saint Clair Lane. I said, that's it. I said, so we
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could have got on the highway. I said, where are we at?
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We was old way over deep over East Baltimore Street and down what was that
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Eastern Avenue? I said, we've been in. We all from the city,
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and it's so many places that we have not been A don't glow because
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we were off from West Baltimore. I got I got one for you already.
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I'm scared. Go ahead, we Lena Maya Maye Kai out the city.
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I k I podcast sir. That sounds like you are putting next spell
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on. Huh, but mel Kalika is Hawaii's way to say Merry Christmas to
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you. Welcome the line and uh that sayd the podcast in Hawaiian. Oh,
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I like you was trying to make my nipple fall off of something time.
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I ain't know what the fun that was about. Thank you for the
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language lesson brose out of Stone. I like it. That's your new name.
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Wait tell us wait the next week when I'm thinking German, I did
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try to Haiting Krele, but that was the plea, don't my damn language.
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I can't even speak the ship on the sun. I did I tell
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that. I was like, wait a minute, let me see you go
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ahead the outside. I'll do it. Talk about just talking outside. We
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just want to talk. Hold up, I'm like, one of y'alls is
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in here, Brandy, come talk to them. I know some words without
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all of it. When I was getting I think that sounds like, look,
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let me call back. Then, let me call Nadine's real quick African.
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Can't they speak French? Though? Yeah, I'm called uh uh,
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that's a that's a Haitian creole. Being y nine podcast even see, I
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don't know. You're right, I don't know. Let's get into this and
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have her translation. By the way, I'm justil you finished the series.
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Yes, I'm finished. I'm glad to do it. It was a few
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seasons that season. Sorry, epis so behind. I let him pile up,
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and I think I watched the last three at the same time. I
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was in here distrusts sitting on the couch like was on. So, my
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favorite show is called Bob Bob's Bob Hart's Abba Shoulder. It's about this guy
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named Bob. He's the CEO. You remember Mike from Mike and Molly.
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Yeah, yeah, he plays Bob. What the Jamaican folks either, Yeah,
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I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. But the Nigerians removed Bob
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boom boom. So yeah, he had heard his character had a heart attack
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and he met his wife who became his wife. Aba Shoulder was his nurse.
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He when he opened his eyes after having a heart attack. She was
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the first person he saw with her braids and scrubs, and he fell in
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love with her. He filed her around and pursue her and they ended up
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falling in love getting married And did you married or worked? The man?
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And her mother moved in from Nigeria that I know how to ship to because
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she was something. Now, I mean, I saw I loved the uncle
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aunt uncle, uncle uncle, her uncle uncle should my show? I think?
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Yeah? My show ended too. So he said, who is that
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my friend? Your friend doesn't have any punts? Oh yeah, she gave
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that boy. Hell, poor Dyla. She finally let him grow. And
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and that's why I like the way it ended, because she finally let him
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follow his dreams. And I loved it. I loved it. She finally
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let him follow his dreams because she was only doing what her mother did to
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her to him. She felt like she had to do this, this,
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and this because that's what her mother wanted. And he was like, I
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don't want you o. Doctor Dela is pop lock and he won't. Yeah,
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you know what I said. My son told me you uncle audition for
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Julia. I'm a driver. It's in New York. Okay he didn't get
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Dela didn't get in. But I mean in the final episode was like a
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seven year flash flow from something eventually worked out for Yeah, and the girl
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that popped up in the background was like, who is that? That's my
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friend. Your friend doesn't have any punts. That's great, that's great.
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I love that show. That was well which one call them? Just finished
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to UH station nineteen not okay. I honestly didn't start watching it about six
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months. It's okay, It's all right, I'm not but at least I
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still get to see doctor ben Burn. It's okay. Since shows and going
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back to Great Show ended to Bluie Aaron, I can't even talk about you
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watching Blue because what then is Blue? You got a four month old?
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It's Austra Australian cartoon kids show. You got a baby, so no,
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no, no no, But I mean he was watching Blue before was born.
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Yeah, son, because talk about something. I gotta make sure I
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know what they talk about kids, so it makes sense not nah, because
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I mean, like I said, we have some beverage. It's just a
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little bit of it's a watermelon. In my opinion, is the closest friend.
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Always realistic like us, like us being realistic, like they they talked,
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they talked to their children. They talk to blues parents talk to her
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and her sister as if we as if we talk to our kids. You
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get what I'm saying. And they they they really teach real lessons, like
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real life lessons, like you know, life ain't always like life ain't always
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fair. You gotta you know, you give what you get. You don't
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get up like you give what you get. Well they say you give what
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you're getting, don't throw a fit. But you know that's cute. Yeah,
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Like I always say, you get what you get. Kids showing one
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pop ups. Yeah, and you know and like the usual TV shows and
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with a wedding blui's uh bluise on you know, dad's brother, mom's sister.
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They ended up, they ended up getting married, and they talked about
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like trying to move, you know, they were gonna move, uh move
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over West, which in their situation in their places the United States, and
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she, you know, she didn't want to go. Didn't blowy and number
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Blowye's dad got a new job and was gonna sell the house. And the
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way they the way uh she went to school. They was like, why
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why the stories always have happy ending. She was like, yeah, because
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like keep giving us sad ones. One kid said, my dad, my
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dad moved away from my dad moved away from my mom. I mean my
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mom moved away from my dad. And she was like yeah, And then
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the other kid answers like, yeah, well my mom likes your dad.
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It's like, okay, it's just like, yeah, my dad got a
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new job, but we're moving away from everybody. We're not gonna see anybody.
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Then they all started howling together. Lord but I like, I mean
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I liked it. I mean I like it in the aspect of like it's
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real. I mean it's it's real life, you know, real life families
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and like you know, family problems and the way their parents interact with them
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and teach them is how you know, I believe that, you know,
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we we interact with our kids and teach out like teach our kids. Not
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this little white not this little you know, white fairy tale ship like they
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they don't even they don't hit you with the everything in sunshine and rainbows life
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be liking. That's no, no, that's what the father said. Well
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that's life, kid. But yeah, they they ended, they did a
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little flash forward to Bluey having blue being a little older and having a child
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and the child that acts just like her. It's cool. That's another one.
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Want to say, y'all watch got you? So before we get into
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this week's topic, I just want to mention one thing. Okay, sure
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I haven't noticed hit mm hm and nigga French rolls to me to come back.
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Listen, all I need them to bring back is crunchies and tucks.
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Man, Now they gonna have to straighten my natural head before they do that
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ship. But a bitcher go get a tuck is a tough It used to
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be so it's like it's a French roll, but the other way, so
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it goes like it's a hump like that. And then they got their head
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and then they finish the bitch and you had a little flip in the baby.
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You can tell me nothing. Now, I got a picture somewhere,
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but that mother hands out. You can tell me nothing about my motherfucker tuck.
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It just was smooth as a mother fucking it was like. And they
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used to take some some braid and hand put it in the back, so
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you should be real fluffy like the same way they used to do the French
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roll. M I'm about to convince my mother, go get the French roll.
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My mother used to have the best fucking French rolls out. She used
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to have some finger waves in the front and the French roll in the back.
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Braby, listen my mother getting the French roll. The first of all,
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she gonna look at me like, how the fuck you know what that
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is? No, but nah, if you if you look at you look
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at all the like all the pictures of like my grandmother, my mother.
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Yo, my mother did the whole Oh. She did like a lot of
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different hairstyles. She had a little asymmetric cut at one At one point,
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my mother was out here looking like Jada Pinkey from from low down, dirty
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shame. Like she she had like shy you know, she had like the
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baby head down on the side, like the head like a roilroad short cut
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joe down. Then at one point she died the head. She died the
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head blonde like platinum blond. Yeah, she cut her hair and then died
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the platinum blond. I think my mother had blonde to he at one point,
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son, It's like but then, you know, I realized that my
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mother, like my mother was young, like you know, she did all
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that, you know what I mean, she did all that because you know,
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that's that's what it was for her. Like we was little. She
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was in her twenties unfortunately not unfortunately, shmu wally she had afro. And
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now, but what I'm saying, like, yo, I was talking like
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I was talking key about shit about that ship, like yo, that Angela
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Davis afro, one of them tight ones. That so listen, bro,
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it's the picture I saw my mother back in the day at a at a
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dance and some red call back in about seventy three seventy four, sister was
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stacked, had on some platforms and she was me jerk or something, and
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that face on her face was like I had the little afro with the glasses
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the window. I said, it's just a chocolate backup? What nah?
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I started opening this and Chase jumped up like Chase jumped in my hand like
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ooh, all she got to hear something open. I was like, oh,
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like nah, this this geedy the ships had a killer poor baby.
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All right, what are we doing this week? Being all right, so
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let's let's let's get into it. Let's get into it. So this week's
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episode, we haven't done one in the Bible. We're gonna do a true
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crumb episode. We wanted to lighten it up a little before we get a
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little dark. So like the back of my net, that's Sonda diabetes back
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your neck, dog, not diabetes. Ain't they usually a sign of the
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diabetes diabetes diabeters? I found an article on I found an article on Cape
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Cod Times entitled Connecticut jury convicts women and child's murdering. So we're gonna talk
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about this the case of Chastity West or Chastity West and gat your feedback.
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So this is from again the Cape cod Times from January fifth, twenty eleven,
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entitled Connecticut jury convicts woman and child's murder. So the article reads,
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Chastity West killed her cousin's son and hurt the daughter to be with the children's
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father. The jury decides. A jury decides sorry. A jury yesterday found
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that Chastity West was willing to kill to be with the man she loved,
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a crime that could make her the first woman on Connecticut's death row. West
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twenty six, was convicted of capital capital fellon felony murder in the nineteen ninety
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eight home invasion and stabbing death of her cousin's seven year old son, who
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was killed while he slept at his Windsor home. West, a former prison
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nurse, cried and clung to her lawyer as the verdict was read. The
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boy, Jire Coiler, was practically decapitated when he was attacked by a mass
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intruder in his bedroom July ninth, nineteen ninety eight. His younger sister,
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Lindsay then too, was slashed, but survived the attack. An eighteen month
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old cousin was unharmed. The same jury found that West was guilty. I'm
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sorry. The same jury that found West guilty would begin deliberating her fate when
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with the penalty phase of the trial, which begins on July thirty first,
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she faces life in prison without the possibility of parole or death. I feel
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that justice has been served. Tammy Kyler, the children's mother, sat outside
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of the courthouse. I have a lot of support and I'm hanging in there.
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West had been romantically involved with her cousin's ex husband, Arnold Kyler,
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and the prosecutor said that the child was murdered because his father would not leave
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his children and moved to another state with West. M M. I remember
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following this story, so starts on that before I move on to the next
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hour. So I think me and you talked about this a little bit before,
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and I sent you some information on because I had seen her several different
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crime shows and the utter goal of this bitch that was your blood cousin.
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She took you in despite other people telling her she shouldn't. And not only
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were you sleeping with her husband, because she didn't start messing with him after
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they got divorced, she was really messing with him. And you watched her
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children grow up, and then you turn around and try to kill these same
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children succeeding and killing one of them just so you can have that father,
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because he wasn't gonna leave his kids like any real man would them. Any
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real man gonna put his kids first. So that's oh, that's start.
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He pissed me the funk off? And did it really really pissed me off?
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How fucking dare you? And it's children in it? Sence children just
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because she thought that the children were keeping keeping their father from moving to a
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different state with her rightfully fucking So, I I don't even know what else
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the thing? What are your thoughts here? Fuck that shit? Bro.
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Listen, he ain't worth it, like I like, I don't. I
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don't even know the niggas, don't even say. I ain't even saying the
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nigga. But I'm I'm telling yo, he it is not worth It's not
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It's not worth it, missill. He wasn't worth it talking about the nigga
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named Arnold Arnold. Then on top of that, his nigga, this nigga
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name is Arnold. Mm hmm, aim of Arnold. You know I dated
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Arnold. It was a good man, Savannah, good man. He just
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in a bad place anyway, Yes, But all was like all those societal
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It's like, yo, first of all, y'all that nigga ain't arnold that
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you you you you wrested off for arnold rumming, not Arnold Trump, not
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Arnold drumming. Jesus, I ain't with it, bro, like I like,
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I mean, I don't understand it, like Seanna saying like that that
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was your that's your family, and yo, you you wanted the baby father
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and it's like old, so you killed you kill your own family essentially like
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immediate family, not no, not no, like you know, like no,
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no second or third cousin, bitch, this was immediate family. And
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then I should tell him, I mean, well that should probably create him
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the funk out because it's like if you're willing to kill, if you want
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to kill your family, bitch, Like I can't even trust you around me,
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bitch, Like mm hmm, you killed his children? Like what what
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what if he didn't want to leave the state? Attempted to kill do if
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he wasn't gonna leave the state, but you before to stay near his kids,
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which you think was gonna happen after you killed. I think she thought
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she was gonna get away with the ship. She thought she was gonna get
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away with it. H m hm. Did she she thought she was going
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to get away with that. She tried to cover her crimed up, and
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I forgot how she ended up getting caught, but I'm pretty sure there's in
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one of the articles you had how she ended up getting caught, but said
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so the prosecutors or the cops showed her a picture of the of the almost
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de capitated child, and it affected her to the pointment she basically confessed to
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it. Mm hm mm hmm. I couldn't imagine as the mother I remember
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watching I forgot which show it was. It was Fatal Attraction, it was,
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it was depicted on Fatal Attraction, but it was also depicted on another
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crime show, something on the ID channel. I can't remember. I can't
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remember if it if it was Evil Lives Here or it was one of the
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other crime shows I forget. But when the mother was retelling the story her
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pain, I literally sat here in tears because she said, when they told
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me that my baby was gone, she said, she just screamed, and
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she kept saying my baby, my baby, my baby, like she screamed
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to the top of her lungs. And this was her relivingness. That shit
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broke me down because I couldn't imagine somebody that you trusted not only betrayed you
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once, but twice. You were already sleeping with her husband. You were
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outright flirting with him in her face. You didn't give a fuck. Other
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family members brought it to her attention, like you don't see this shit.
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Something ain't right, y'all. You need to you need to put your foot
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down. Something ain't right, Like she's outright disrespecting you. And then you
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turn around and try to take both her children from her. You already took
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a husband, bitch, you try to take both her children, succeeding and
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taking one. And then the part that pissed me off, chances these mother
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was an enabler because she refused to believe that even when she was sleeping with
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the husband. My mother's like, oh no, she wouldn't do that.
26:40
She wouldn't do that, Yes the fuck she would. Bitch. Everybody said
26:41
it, but you. That's an issue behind every cycle with somebody saying,
26:48
oh, they wouldn't do that, Oh no, not my child. Some
26:55
people give give birth to demon spawn. I'm sorry, and that bitch,
27:00
it's a demon sponge and she deserved e. She she deserved more than what
27:03
she got. I think she got in life, but I can't remember him,
27:06
but she she deserved way more than what she got. She deserved itself
27:10
with the way that baby suffered. Right, that was a fucking shame,
27:14
Right, What are your thoughts? Aaron Shell and the pits sit right down
27:22
and sit right down and that what that fuck that shit? I'm tryna think
27:26
of like a question like I could ask to like pose or not aks to
27:30
post that's redundant, But I'm trying to think of a question I could pose
27:33
to like try to flush up this conversation. But I feel like, to
27:36
be honest, there's not really much like it's not really too far we could
27:40
go with this, Like I don't i'm'a i'm'a be honest like if if if
27:44
it And in cases like this, I be wanting like I do, like
27:48
Yo, I be wanting to sit there, you know, kind of like
27:51
how doctor Phil did that did with that one get that one guy that killed
27:53
his mother and like just sat and talked to him, just to Aks,
27:56
like Yo, what's yo? What went through your head? Or that lady
28:00
or that lady who killed all, like I mean because of postpartum she killed
28:04
like she drowned her she drawn their kids And did we talk about that?
28:10
No, we ain't talk about it. I think I think I've read it.
28:12
It was a mother who she drownk her kids in the baptub individually.
28:18
Yeah that was andre Yates, wasn't it. I think it was. And
28:22
yeah, but a lot of people blamed her husband because they said he knew
28:26
she was suffering and he didn't do anything to help her. I mean,
28:29
I can understand they tried to put the put it on him. He didn't.
28:33
He didn't drive her to kill the YO thing. He should have made
28:37
sure she got the help she needed. It didn't. I'm pretty sure he
28:41
could suspect that was because my question was children was in danger by the woman
28:45
They gave b the first three I think it was like five kids. Yeah,
28:49
I think it was fine because she drugged them first, like they get
28:52
them to like to subdue them, and then I believe so so they couldn't
28:56
like I'm not like, I ain't sure. I ain't sure, but this
29:00
like yo, after the first three year, you ain't snap out of it,
29:02
you know what I'm saying. They call it post part then. But
29:07
then the other kids because you know the other kids, they was a little
29:10
older, and it's like yo, yah niggas watching this. Yeah, and
29:15
it's like yo, or what they even they could have been in their rooms
29:18
like just high or the drugs and sweep go to the bathroom and just yeah,
29:26
that's heartbreaking. But it's like, yo, what what what went through
29:30
your mind for you to take that take the kids life and then then attempt
29:37
to like kill like you you you almost you almost took that man head off.
29:41
Yo. Yeah, it's and then you you know, I ain't you
29:45
know, granted yo, I ain't see it. Ain't seeing some pictures of
29:48
it, but it's still like, Yo, that's the ship that's gotta fuck
29:52
with you. You know, even now that you calm down, Yo,
29:56
that's gonna be the ship that suck with you. And the mest things in
29:59
her situation, and she could scream, you know, she could have screamed
30:02
um, you know, brief moment of insanity. Yeah, that shitn' didn't
30:06
work because watching her interview with the police, I don't feel she was a
30:12
remorseful then she was just mad that she got caught. And then she couldn't
30:18
be with him, That's what it was. But I would have begged for
30:22
them to give me five minutes in the room with that bitch. The way
30:26
I had to beat the fuck out of her. That sounded like remember you
30:30
saying that reminds me of the instance where the dad with the gymnastics coach was
30:37
sexually assaulting all like the gymnasts, and the father was in the courtroom and
30:41
he was like, your honor, I asked you for just five minutes alone
30:45
in the room with the guy with with with with the with the with the
30:49
doctor. And the judge was like, sir, I understand, but I
30:52
can't do that, and he was like, okay. Then I asked you
30:56
for just two minutes. Two minutes and while the judge was talking, he
30:59
lit her. Really didn't even look. He just off and that correction jumped
31:03
across the table and it took like three cops to subdu him to get him
31:08
from reaching reaching reaching that guy came. Yeah, it was, it was,
31:15
it was. But the thing was, I don't think he got charged.
31:17
I think the I think they took him out. They took him out,
31:21
just threatened him with continued to court. I think but he ultimately didn't
31:23
get charged because of just the situation that he didn't let him out the same
31:26
day. I didn't imagine that. Technically, what you're looking at is is
31:30
a is a kind of a legal loophole, is a legal think about it.
31:33
You don't want to give me five minutes, I'm gonna take my five
31:37
minutes to get me putting the same guy, damn self with this bitchy and
31:41
then at that point we in the cell together. Anything happens can happen.
31:45
They can keep him separated them. Yeah, I mean, yeah, of
31:47
course they're gonna separate him because you know the intentions. Uh they you know
31:51
they are. They already know this man attentions. But I'm just saying,
31:55
m h, that's a damn sure. We had to lock him up.
32:00
They had to make the show her all love the love the cells before,
32:06
so you know, we had to put them in there. They had to
32:07
put them together. Yeah, you know that oldest though, like I that
32:15
poor baby. They were beautiful children. Well, like I said, the
32:16
daughter is still alive. She's older now. And on the particular show I
32:22
was watching when I uh got the idea to send you the information, she
32:28
spoke and she said, because she was so young. She said, she
32:31
remembers little things about her big brother, and she said she just wishes that
32:37
he was still hearing, that they could have grown up together, because all
32:39
the stories that she hears about him, like everybody was always talking about how
32:43
good of a kid he was and how sweet he was, and you know,
32:45
stuff like that. And she said, I just she took that opportunity
32:50
for me from me to grow up with a big brother. Yeah, you
32:53
know, and she said she because she was so young, it's not much
32:57
that she really does remember. That's a beautiful thing because she won't be traumatized
33:01
but so much, you know, somebody telling the story and be like,
33:05
oh yeah, you almost say make it sis. But thankfully she can't really
33:08
remember what happened. Won't come back, you know what I'm saying, Like,
33:13
it's it's that that's gonna be like the weirdest thing, scary, the
33:19
smallest thing, and then she's gonna remember all that ship. So yeah,
33:22
I prayed that she got therapy right now. She did get some therapy as
33:28
well, I do, But like I said, thankfully she don't remember.
33:36
So yeah that how could you? Yeah, that's how could Yeah, that's
33:45
that's that's fucking traumatic ship. But I'm glad that the youngest child was unharmed
33:50
and the middle child wasn't wasn't you know it was only injured, and that
33:54
she got jail time. You should have got the death penalty. No,
34:00
that would have been too easy. She didn't get life in jail, and
34:05
she got life. She was on death ro not her, no, they
34:08
said. The article stated that her her I think good behavior while she was
34:16
in jail in the testimony for friends and family that kept her from getting the
34:20
deac pin. But she got life without the possibility of her role. That's
34:22
what she got. She would have been the first woman, according to the
34:24
article, would testify on her behead, though, besides her mama, because
34:30
like I said, the mother never some of her coworkers mm hmm yeah,
34:37
and she confessed to I'm not testifying in behaf so I'm not going to do
34:40
it. Was the man. Fuck. They always want to put it on
34:44
the man, like you didn't fucking spread your damn late. You knew right
34:49
from wrong, bitch. You knew that was your cousin husband, that she
34:52
trusted you enough to watch her children, and the children you ended up turning
34:54
around and murdered and tried to murder, and you still busted open for her
35:00
husband. You knew what you were doing. I think she was jealous of
35:02
the cousin and she wanted her life. That's what it sounded like to me.
35:07
That's just mm hmmm mmmm. I hope them kids haunt her every night.
35:17
Fuck yeah, So is that it shown? I guess though, But
35:23
I think the husband should have went to jail to because in my mind I
35:27
felt like his answer was involved. I'm sorry that, you know. That's
35:30
what my mind went when I first heard the story. I felt like he
35:34
was like, oh, well, you know, I got my kids,
35:38
be getting rid of my kids. It's just gonna be me and you.
35:43
That's just what my mind went. The questions, do you think that the
35:49
husband, I mean, the father, was telling her like a pipe dream
35:52
to make her I honestly don't. Even though supposedly they were in a relationship
36:02
after, during and after his marriage, I do not. I don't know
36:10
if he would have been with her long term. I don't know. I
36:15
think she was fun. She was younger than the wife. You know,
36:16
she was younger and more fun, and you know, he probably can get
36:22
away with shit with her. He couldn't get away with with excuse me,
36:25
with his wife because he was entirely too old to be fucking messing with her
36:30
in the first fucking place, because initially I think she was like eighteen or
36:32
nineteen when he started messing with the girl, and they were in their thirties.
36:37
So you're nasty son of a bitch any fucking way, you know what
36:39
I'm saying. I wish what somebody could charged his ass with, well,
36:44
I wish it was because anytime a man that all goes to a woman that
36:47
young, and you watch this girl grow up, even looking at her like
36:52
that that entire time. She don't just turn eighteen in one hour, and
36:59
you like damn ever since you turned eighteen at twelve fifty nine yesterday, you're
37:02
looking real good to me, three twenty seven pm. No, in the
37:07
past fifteen, ain't nothing changed in the last You've been looking at that,
37:08
y'all like that since before she was eighteen years old. You nasty, Some
37:12
of them a bitchy, you know she's some of them a bitch. What
37:15
are your thoughts here? This what sixty five year pastor but a nineteen year
37:20
old wife? Baby, I blame the parents, because where you all at.
37:23
Honestly, I'm gonna tell you, like, I'm gonna tell you the
37:25
truth. She's nineteen. I don't give a fuck like at that, but
37:30
like at forty year age. He's known her since she was fourteen. I
37:34
understand he's been grooming her. I but to see that part, that part,
37:37
I don't really think. So he's been grooming her. No, she
37:40
didn't turn eighteen and he said, damn, I want to marry you.
37:44
No, why don't you think he's no different than acause you think this is
37:45
an interesting, interesting conversation. So why don't you think the pastor was grooming
37:50
that girl? All? Right? The reason why I don't think like and
37:52
I mean this, this is not just the past, This is like anybody
37:54
like I mean because me and kid had these kinds of conversations a lot,
37:58
because especially like like if it's somebody that's known you since you were this age
38:01
or whatever, and then it's like, yo, you're not I'm not directly
38:05
you're not directly related to this person. So then when they turn eighteen and
38:08
they turn eighteen and you start seeing then it's like you stop seeing him as
38:13
that kid. You start seeing him as an adult. But what says for
38:15
you to start seeing him as an adult versus a child. So for a
38:20
changed number on the back end of the age, it's not necessarily to change
38:23
number on the back on it's not necessarily like the age itself. But it's
38:28
the fact that you old, you, you're no longer like yo. Once
38:30
you you know, at some point, our parents, our parentstopped looking at
38:34
us like children. They look at us like, you know, they look
38:36
at us like adults. And they stopped, they stopped they start treating us
38:38
or such. And that's how I feel about it. That's how I feel
38:40
about adults most of the time. It's like, yo, Now, well,
38:44
what's the relevance of that? Us parents, our parents seeing us as
38:47
adults as we get ordered doesn't equate this from a sixty five year old married
38:52
the nineteen year old. I mean were looking, I mean, I'm looking.
38:55
I mean I believe that everybody's just looking at the fact that Yoe,
38:58
he's sixty five. But we're not dum I mean, but we but but
39:02
you know, Sea, like Shanna said, she she believed, you know,
39:05
she feels as though he was grooming me personally. I just feel like,
39:08
yo, you see you see in nineteen you know you see this nineteen
39:12
year old girl, young, tight and right, but you also might say
39:15
an opportunity to train her to be the type of woman that you makes even
39:19
words that's nothing. Man, that's squiroming. You should have to train No
39:24
goddamn body that's grooming. He's so hard. It's a dumb ass. And
39:29
he said he can have her. Do you any goddamn think he went because
39:31
she's young, she un inexperienced, and he can get away with whatever he
39:36
want to get away with her. He know that, gir she was fourteen,
39:38
even looking at her like that, since she was fourteen. And if
39:40
somebody who know my son, she was fourteen years old, all of a
39:43
sudden show and that's a grown ass person, all of a sudden show interest
39:46
and my son. They are allegedly going to end up at the bottom of
39:50
the enn of Harbor. So I can't give trip at perd. But it's
39:58
bad as no, he did that shit when his kids were twelve and thirteen,
40:01
allegedly allegedly spriankles frankle No but no, but to bring it back through
40:07
I just like me like it's like I don't necessarily say it as though I
40:13
know, but I do believe that at some point. I mean, but
40:15
then it's it's it's still I mean, it's still like messed up either way,
40:21
because he could know, he can holler at her, he can like
40:24
not let's say he don't. He ain't trying to marry her at nineteen,
40:28
and then he ended up trying to marry her at twenty five. You know
40:30
what I'm saying. When she turned twenty five or whatever or older than that,
40:34
then I mean, we still gonna have the same conversation. I think
40:37
it's different in that instance because the girl they got married, I think when
40:42
she was eighteen or nineteen, he had known her since she was fourteen.
40:44
If she was eighteen when when they got married, bro okay. But if
40:47
the girl was twenty, if he marri her at fourteen and they got married
40:51
when she was twenty five, granted to me, the age difference is creepy,
40:54
but it's like, Okay, you've known this girl for nine years.
40:58
Maybe they started dating when she turned twenty there was a gap, but the
41:01
fact that the dates are so close to me is like, nigga, were
41:05
you glooming her as age gap but I don't never understand what somebody sixty has
41:10
in common with somebody who nigga, you was grandchild's age. You've just been
41:15
getting banned from sitting at lunch counter, steal bitch, and my mama wasn't
41:21
even born yet. The fuck I mean, we said I jump with older
41:24
men. I'm not gonna say that I did said years older man said the
41:29
same thing. He was like, they on the same reason level. I
41:32
mean, that's true, but that's what they said. Yeah, that's what
41:40
I mean. I'm what I'm saying. That's what they said. Though they
41:43
said that, they said that they they both read they both read Goosebumps together
41:47
anyway, not goose Bumps before we got questions, so I'm not getting in
41:52
that. I'm not touching that. Questions. We usually don't do questions on
41:57
true crime episodes. But if you want to break up the little so short,
42:02
because it's a short episode, I think I may have one or two.
42:06
Let's let's just move past repertoire before we do into that. Let's let's
42:10
take a commercial break. It will be right back, all right, y'all.
42:15
We back, damn, we're working up. Well, we only took
42:19
one commercial break. That's a jump still throw fit. Name is poring on
42:30
movie. Just relations. I can't stand in neither one of y'all. No
42:35
nigga, that sounds like great, like listen, all right, trying to
42:38
break relations. I told you to relax because this this subject a little relations
42:51
God damn, y'all. I'm going to bid all right, We're gonna break
42:55
this up a little bits. The girl that got the girl that got that,
42:59
God damn, and they got that God damn little special massage. Okay,
43:02
bitch, I'm the big cist over here, special massage. I did
43:07
what got my sons. I was trying to make it special. Nigga will
43:12
cooperate. Put the mother you know, you know, you know how the
43:14
Jamaicas do something. I'm gonna move my leg. I was trying to the
43:22
lip over real quick. That's it. When I was hurt. This right
43:27
here for the tension right there, Okay, standing there, nigga water been
43:40
problem, my bad? He go chi here you go. He wiped that
43:45
out, wriped that out? Your beer? Sorry all right? Uh yeah,
43:55
I hate y'all so bad. I got a six brown chicks, damn.
43:59
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44:16
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45:22
a fuck? How we put it on him? Okang, she said.
45:25
The artists che with Hilm. She got some vacation dick, bro Listen,
45:32
she's changing nads on my nerves and she got to go like Bruce Lee Roy
45:38
bitch. This question comes from six Brown Chicks. I had a nice time
45:44
with the woman I liked. We shared the same group of friends, but
45:46
I didn't want her to know. My strategy was to show her a nice
45:52
time and then walk away from her. To make her run after me.
45:53
I made a second date with her and told her I was on my way.
45:58
I stood her up intention My plan for the night was to take a
46:01
perk, watch a little porn, and unwine alone. My perk was fake
46:07
and laced with finanyl sh My roommate found me overdosing while masturbating. She took
46:14
a photo and then called an ambulance. They brought me back, but the
46:19
image of me blacked out with my dick in my hand got back to the
46:22
woman I liked. She told me to never call her again. Can she
46:28
be fished? What do I do to convince her to go out with me
46:30
again? Ship? She said, say, I don't know. I'm sorry.
46:39
It bro another You don't imagine you just you think that you're about to
46:47
busting up. But really your answer is fitting to die, because yo,
46:55
the niggas like, wait, bit this month, this is it different?
47:02
He was taking apart so what I mean? He was just trying to get
47:06
high ship, So I felt like somebody else leaning a fake per The laces
47:08
street skipping on your date. Take a picture, you cause that nigga paid
47:16
niggaok a picture and put it on Twitter and then called and then called,
47:21
then called the polly called the ambulance like hey, yo, he took that
47:24
picture because wasn't nobody gonna believe that ship if he had told that story or
47:29
that Nigga let it down in the group chair, nobody. He sent the
47:31
picture in the group chat before he died nine one one and she got it.
47:37
Mm hmm. You see you had one job. Mmmmmmm, Well yo,
47:45
misters Sara, you ain't want no way, so what the fuck you
47:52
didn't want her anyway? So I'm not understanding that's hill, are you?
48:00
He tried to get high, yo. He tried to get high off the
48:04
perks, so it felt like it was somebody else. He was trying to
48:07
have an out of body experience. He was legit, it was out of
48:13
body. But he almost stay there permanently, that nigga. I wonder if
48:20
he switched hands too while he was not, if he switched hands grinding pepper.
48:28
He was grinding the pepper. I'm sorry, what the fuck a grinding
48:37
pepper? Bro I mean, ye, damn bro o, here you've been
48:44
grinding pepper before. Since grinding and pepper, I twisted a couple of telescope
48:47
to honestly, so she gets so she can get the crean the rices.
48:52
That's the goal. That's the goal. And then you look at the nigga
48:58
in his eyes. And then then nigga told start picking up carpet fibers.
49:01
You gotta do what you gotta do. I'm just saying that's what I heard.
49:09
I kin had a moment, all right, last one. We staying
49:15
on six Brown Chicks because again we needed something to last at After that story,
49:22
lord, uh, my wife and I had a fight about how I'm
49:28
selfish with my money. I surprised my wife and her new job, intercepted
49:30
her uber ride and scooped her for a date. I recreated our first date.
49:35
I took her to our favorite secluded spot. We talked in h Chipotle,
49:38
in my truck under the stars. Oh, we kissed. She was
49:43
hesitant doing full play. I want to shower first, she said, but
49:45
she smoke good to me. I played in her panties and there was a
49:50
condom inside her pussy. Already, we don't use condoms. Wife reveals that
49:58
she's actually in eschorl and works outside of the building that I picked her up
50:02
at, and that her uber driver was a paying customer. She didn't apologize.
50:07
Instead, she was annoyed, and she said, your date night cost
50:12
me seventy five dollars. I don't know what to do. Advice, sir,
50:19
you married a two dollars home shit for the sweets, drop her ass
50:24
back off in front of the building, and file for the divorce. A
50:32
two dollars you gave woman is a she's loose seventy five dollars st shortly mad
50:43
at you, motherfucker. She popping pussy, she said seventy I mean,
50:49
I guess in her defense at least she giving it up for more than forty
50:52
dollars, so she hadn't protected sex. I mean, I'm sure she ain't
51:00
something. No condom dick though, So I don't want to suck on the
51:06
balloon. There's that take that that was fact though, faxblus tax that's what
51:15
that's what. That's what he said, Fax plus taxes, Fax plus tax
51:24
and the Goosebumps theme. It's a song, not the Goosebumps theme. I
51:32
don't know this theme might need to be as we lay because I mean,
51:37
lord, it's morning, Kelly Price or Shirley? Was it shorty season?
51:45
I don't know. Shirley seemed like she was a hum dinger back in the
51:47
day season Kelly sh Shirley Murder going to be going original with this one.
51:59
Sorry, no disrespect to uh to Kelly fast fuss? What fast fuss this
52:10
morning? I mean at least she she was. She was protecting herself from
52:15
me because your wife would make make make money. I mean, if you're
52:19
taking off work, I guess they will listen. They smell good to me,
52:22
smelling like a tire factory. You don't even know which client left that.
52:30
Sorry, Jesus, drop a back off in front of the building and
52:37
five dollars. I'm done. You still got that, You still got it
52:45
in. You still got that? Mean it came off at some point.
52:49
That's the problem that realized it came off. So I mean she got that
52:54
means she got that traffic keeper. Then that might just be the one you
52:58
found, sir. I don't know to turn good night. I got that
53:06
trying to keep five hours ain't nothing out of here. Now she got the
53:13
snapping turtle? What's that? It's a snap of turtle here's a teenage being
53:25
Ninja turtles. I'm sorry we needed some laughing. I'm done. We usually
53:37
don't do Q and A after true crime stories. That was a short one.
53:42
Yeah, oh god, okay, go ahead and rest the piece of
53:50
the piece of that family recipes of the baby that they lost his life.
53:53
Yeah, yeah, that's a shame and chastity burning. Hell, I hold
54:00
that yo. When you when you get your COMMISARYO, you only got two
54:05
pennies in that bitch? Oh, somebody beat you up until still got a
54:08
brain, hand for honey buns and fight a big bitch name tiny for your
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virginity every day. I hope they save up all lad Nichols and beat you
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with them and with a with a tube sock. Damn. That's a whole
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day. Pay and nickel, Yeah, nickel for like three hours, gonna
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save all lad Nichols and beat your ass and the words of Miss Sailing.
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We're gonna get together and whoop your ass. And with that being said,
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thank y'all for listening to this week's very very short episode, very very short
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episode. We got ship to do here we do It's it's a holiday weekend,
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y'all. I'm off for the next couple of days. I'm out in
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these streets, and the bitch leave for Jamaica. Surdy, I'm a safe
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trip. Don't break no babies, I damn sure won't. Jamaican man.
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She don't go get that little massage with with that, with that special,
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that special lotion. I ain't bringing nothing. Man. Come come mere,
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beauty, let me inside for you may touch you on the inside. Parks
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Paul D. I'm like, uh, what you not on? Do you
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want to experience a real countryman? No thank you sayingthing? No thank you,
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lovely, you don't want to experience a real countryman. Trust you show
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you the best sides and you want bascle me. Bitch, that was Justica.
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You won't come over here sleeping hey me, sleeping in my best friend
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mama garage. If you won't get no fucking job and we did. You
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want to go buy me a goddamn dog that I gotta feed and I can
55:43
barely feed your mother. The dog name was Vasco biscoc whatever the nigga name
55:50
was. One was the names the other one named Vosco. No thank you
55:54
that you good air. Don't let him pull oh no, get to stand
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up okay, So if you have any questions for us, feel free to
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center my way ask wander Part at gmail dot com. That's a s k
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w A N D A p O d A gmail dot com email. He's
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been good with checking the email. Watch your country on them. I can't
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be alf responsible for nothing. I'm over there drinking it. I'm drinking from
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in red boot and nothing. That's what you just said I did. Yes,
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you can find us on Instagram and Twitter and slip jesus. You can
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find us on Instagram, to Twitter and TikTok at Wonderpot Underscore, and on
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Facebook and YouTube at Wanda City the podcast. But that being said, happy
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fourth of July, or as us black folks call it happy day off work
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in barbeque day, heavy white people holiday. If you're taking the time off
57:02
work, enjoy with your family, your friends, you love one. Be
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safe because them boys is out and waiting for y'all to be out here drunk
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and drunk drivers. Take ober, especially especially here in Bottom. All them
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niggas is outside. Take uber, matter of fact and bring the ch o
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to be outside on my bottom. More people look outside that part. I
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got up and Saidy're gonna fall allow the bottom. My stuff stays. Thank
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you, not talk like like a drag queen type and my stuff face contained.
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I am we thank y'all. We love y'all. Holiday weekend, follow
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it good girl, pitcht y'alls by y'all. Happy holiday, do your time
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off if you get it, be safe. Buy y'all cities suffron with butter
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and let shade