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Verity : Round and Supple · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: It was uh Yeah it was definitely a movie.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was definitely a movie.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Got some decotities.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, there was that.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: There was that.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: And uh nah, I was um I I was I don't even know where to begin with that, but uh I was I was I was pleasantly surprised.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know why I was surprised.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was supposed to be like that.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_04: So Yeah, it's uh you I didn't you say well anyway, let's get let's we'll get into it.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, we'll we'll talk about titties in man.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: So hey everybody, welcome to High and Dry Podcast.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: With me as always, James Crosslin.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: We, of course, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of Jet Lee's 2001 hit, The One.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_04: I so I I'm a the one defender.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_04: I thought it was pretty enjoyable, and I thought it did a really good job of like there was like the romantic he lost his wife, you know, and and then he ended up switching um dimensions and uh and he found his wife again.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_04: I thought that was a really nice like arc.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I liked the little uh thing in the beginning where uh we see like I guess our universe, and then we see like this alternate universe where they have like more advanced technology, and uh you see on the TV that Gore just won the election.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like damn it!
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: Son of a bitch, we could have had that.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_04: Also, Carla Gugino was his wife.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_04: Carla Gugino is great, right?
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_04: She's in all the Mike Flanagan stuff, and she's great.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, no, she was she's really good.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: I like her a lot.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: I I liked her in uh God, which what was the like haunted they did uh Follow the House of Asher, I think it was.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Usher, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: I really liked it.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_04: She was she was the Red Death, or she was the devil or whatever.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very sexy.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um, whatever it was that she's a great actress, she's awesome.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_04: She was in Lisa Frankenstein, which was not Mike Flanagan, but she did a really good job in that movie.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever you have to say about the rest of the act the rest of the movie.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_04: She was really good in it.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_04: She's been great in everything I've seen her in.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_04: I love Carla Gugino, she's awesome.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_04: Well, good for her.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: She's she has the high and drag stamp of approval.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: We're not going to be talking about her all day.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: And we're we're we'll come back to Jetly the one.
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  SPEAKER_01: We'll bring it back.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe one day.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe one day.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: And you could catch the rest of that on our other podcast where we just catalog the universes of Jetly the One.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but what we're gonna be talking about on this podcast today.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: And they were doing it long before Rick and Morty and Marvel.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: The original multiverse.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what we're gonna actually be talking about this week, we're gonna be talking about the film Verity, um, and Hathaway's newest outing.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we're gonna do it in a method guaranteed to get you the best results.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, first we're gonna rate this thing out of five.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then we're gonna dive into the golden path and uncover the deeper meanings behind the film.
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  SPEAKER_01: And finally, we will insert ourselves drugs and alcohol into the premise.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: But what makes it so special and fun is that we ourselves will be under the influence of this or that.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, James, you're bringing the usual?
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, bringing the usual coffee with a little bit of Ube Cream Liqueur.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm almost out of it though, so I don't know what I'm gonna do next.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_04: I think I'll just kill myself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, so everyone tune in next week for the final episode.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_04: I'll start.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that we had a rat in the crawl space.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe I'll just gather droppings and and grind those into a powder and snort it.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what I'll do for the rest of this.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: James, you're really sweating.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_04: You guys I've got hantavirus.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: You're sweating bad.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: So um, I will be joining you with the uh the large jug of 1800 tequila.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's gold.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I I'm not a fan of gold tequila whatsoever.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm not keeping as much uh bourbon in the house these days.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: So it is what it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Buttery caramel, mild spice, hints of orange, round and supple.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think some other things that are round and supple.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: So let's line them up.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: His first toast, first hit.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that out of habit now.
• 4:46
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• 5:01
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• 5:11
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh here's to them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not round or subble.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's hard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sharp.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: Jamie.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: I w I will say tequila is a much much cleaner buzz as uh the alcohol aficionado that I am.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's a much uh it's much cleaner.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: It is much cleaner.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think the agave um makes for a more natural drunk, you know.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: Does it?
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: My uh my system works through it a lot more.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I don't feel like the weird kind of clogginess.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's the best way I could describe it.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just feel the buzz.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't feel all the extra.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's like it's it's run a marathon alcohol, you know, if you want to do that with a buzz.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: This is the way to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna clog up the gears.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: So um this next toast, this one goes out to I don't know, I guess uh round suppleness.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: I like a lot of round suppleness in this film.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: So cheers.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_04: Cheers.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I really loved the scene where they got Anne Hathaway in that red dress when they first meet.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_04: She's uh she's got a very she's very curvy in that scene.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_04: She got a yeah, she's rocking the hell out of that dress.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, and after uh our our last week's movie, Primetime, I I was just happy for the for the age appropriate like oh wonderful.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: People my age, yeah, beautiful women.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_04: Thank God.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody's pretending to be a child in this one.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I needed the I needed the ballot cleanser, dear God.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: I I was still feeling icky from prime time.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: And finally, last toast.
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  SPEAKER_01: This one goes out to our film this week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here is to Verity.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_03: So much to Gail.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I will be chasing it with my gallon of water.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: Trying to stay hydrated.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_04: You know that's illegal here.
• 7:52
  unknown: Yes.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: I know my my liver needs all the help I could give it.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: So gallon of water a day.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so Verity.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about it.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: I I can do the uh the the summary.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I did read this book a year ago.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: And shortly after I completed reading it, I discovered that it was gonna be made of film.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I was I I'm I'm I'm not going to uh you know I'm not I'm not gonna front.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: I I ate that book like up.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like I tore through that fucking thing.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was not my genre.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, super homie.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Super homie.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: It was sexy as hell.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's not my genre, definitely not my author.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, she's taken a lot of criticism for handling assault and toxicity in very kind of celebratory ways, very uh toxic ways.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: She's taken a lot of criticism for that.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know enough about her writing, I don't know enough about her.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: I just read this one book, and we can discuss that too on the Golden Path.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so for those of you who are not aware, haven't seen it yet, haven't wed a movie theater seat yet to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Verity is the story of Verity, kinda.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's a story of it's it's a three people, all right.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: So essentially what happens is our scene opens, and a young woman on a street side is splattered by gore as a man is eviscerated by a passing car.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: She's covered in blood and she meets a very sexy man.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's so sexy.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's so sexy, and he's calm under pressure, and he takes her into a nearby bathroom and uh cleans her up, gives her a shirt.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: I should probably pull up the characters' names.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: I Loan.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Loan.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, we all know a Loan.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: We all know a Loan.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: We all know a Loan, and Loan is brought into a bathroom by uh which I wish we see more of him.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: I've always liked him.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Josh Hartner.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Josh Hartnett, yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Jeremy Crawford's his character.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Jeremy brings her into a bathroom, very gentlemanly, looks away, you know, like like they have to be in the beginning before they lure you into a toxic thing.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's the last we think we're gonna see of each other.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: But she is an indie author or an up-and-coming mainstream author who's kind of not doing well.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: And she has been brought by her agent to a meeting where she walks in, has no idea what's going on, and comes face to face with Jeremy, who had just cleaned blood off of her and given her a shirt, her agent, and at this big uh publishing house, and she discovers that she is being offered money to ghostwrite Verity's next book, Verity being a world-renowned author.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, just kind of authors whose books show up at airport lounges.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_04: She's a bad ladies doing bad author.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_04: Bad sexy ladies doing bad sex.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's all about those villainous ladies voluptuously villainizing and what have you.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 11:04
  unknown: Yeah.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Next week we're gonna be doing uh V for Vendetta.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh anyway, they offer money to ghostwrite the book because it turns out that Verity was in an accident in a in a lake where you know Jeremy also lost his daughter, Verity's daughter, and um they now need someone to ghostwrite these novels.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: They offer our heroine heroine a bunch of money to live with Jeremy, as all of these contracts are, if anyone's ever been through it.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's standard procedure to live with a uh grieving widower.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_04: Certainly when you're if you're a hot woman, you gotta go live with the man.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, um my writing career hasn't taken off yet, but I've been in this position before.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's very standard.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so she goes, she lives with them, she discovers that Verity is still there, she is completely unresponsive.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: She essentially lives through nurses in a wheelchair, and she is going to work out of Verity's office and start writing these new books.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, feelings start to develop, but she also starts to feel that Verity might be faking it.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: She finds a manuscript of Verity hidden very plainly in a cigarette case.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it is an autobiography that details the terrible things that Verity was actually responsible for the murder of her and Jeremy's child.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: And um that was presumed an accident previously.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: That was presumed an accident.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um the thing goes on, she feels that uh you know Verity more and more seems to be faking it.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: She sees Verity in places where she shouldn't be.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually it all culminates um in the night where she reveals this to Jeremy.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Jeremy begins to choke out Verity, stops himself, and at that point, um our our uh our MC, whatever, Lumen whatever her name is.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Loan.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Loewen.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Her name is it's Noelle backwards.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's Loen.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: Talks her, talks him back into killing her.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: He does so knee wall, kneewall backwards.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: The two of them have their little murder pact where they toss Verity in the water.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: She was confused, she wandered out there looking for their child.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Flash forward, Loan is now pregnant with Jeremy's child.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're moving out of the house where all these terrible things have happened, so they can start again.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: And Loen then finds a letter underneath the floorboards suggesting that Verity's agent said, Write your perspective from the worst actual premise and make yourself the villain.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it's all fantasy, and it'll allow you to get out of your head, this, that, and the other.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: And Loan realizes that it may have all been false, and Jeremy may have been just plotting to kill his wife.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it's sort of left up to interpretation at that point, and you decide who was lying, who was, you know, this, that, and the other.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: And there you have Verity.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: So what'd you think?
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so starting off with acting, uh, I thought the acting in this movie was good.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: I thought it was sexy.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_04: I thought that I thought Josh Hartnett was really good as a I thought he did a really excellent job as a dad who was struggling with a disabled wife around a really hot new woman in the house being all sort of.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's not my fault, dude.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's not my fault.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like he did a really, really good job.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_04: And Josh Hartnick got a chance to be like expressive and like kind and like thoughtful.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_04: He did a lot of eyebrow work that I noticed.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, which a lot of a lot of his older movies doesn't get to do much eyebrow work.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, he's he was like pegged into a hole of being a specific kind of person.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_04: And in this one, he did a really good job.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_04: And Anne Hathaway is she's usually not well.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: I guess Anne Hathaway has a really varied career where she has been both like a she was Princess Diaries and uh uh Devil Wears Prada, where she's like a really straight-laced, kind of like uh very good-hearted, good-natured, like almost prudish a little bit, where she has to come out of her shell.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_04: But she's also been in a lot of movies where she is a yeah, where she's like a sexy dynamo, you know, a bombshell.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_04: And uh she was definitely that in this one.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_04: And she was also really menacing.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_04: I felt she had she were the times where she had to be like where she had she had a few scenes that were like straight where she talked straight to camera and where she had to like uh hide menace beneath an air of like flip being flippant or glib, and it was disconcerting.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_04: It like made you squeam a little bit.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_04: And for Dakota Johnson, her ability to always look bored or puzzled really fit this character.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and they even call they even call it out in the movie, which I thought I I laughed.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_04: I laughed when Josh Hartnett is like, I've res yeah, I've been told I have resting bored face, which is definitely what she has.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I will say, I uh so I mean, like she came out of Fifty Shades and all that like she's never really been too high on my radar and stuff I've watched.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: This was the first movie where I'm like, she is sexy as fuck.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_04: Super sexy, uh, but she's also not an amazing actress in most features that she's in.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and even in this one, I wouldn't say she was a particularly great actress.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like she I feel like she plays the same character constantly, which is which is a shame because I just saw her on an SNL sketch.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_04: Like I YouTube suggests SNL sketches to me from like the past.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_04: And she was in one with a gun for girls as the the gun, and she uh and she got and she got to do some really off the wall like character work in it, and she was really funny and she was really expressive, and I was like, what the fuck?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_04: Why isn't she like this in her feature films?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um so that kind of put in perspective like her performance in this one.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I think that like you gotta do what you're being handed.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, she's type.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I find it so hard to blame typecast actors because if if someone busted in this door right now and said, hey, we're gonna tap cut tape typecast you for the next uh 30 years, you good with that?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, yeah, let's go.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, let's do it.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm in.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: I am in.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but also I don't know if I like the expression of her typecast necessarily.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if it resonates with me.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_04: Which is problem which which is a problem when you wanna when you want compelling acting.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_04: Um so I'm I'm gonna give the acting in this one.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_04: I still thought it was pretty good overall, and it was really tense and it kept me engaged.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so I'm gonna give it a four.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_04: I was engaged by everyone.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh for cinematography, I thought that the cinematography in this was how do I put this?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_04: I thought that it was really good for certain scenes, and then other scenes felt like hallmark movie rotating camera or drone footage, like like scene setting of like a spectacular place or like a uh a rich per you know, a rich person's place.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_04: Like like it it it it there was a lot of there was there was quite a bit of b-roll and and it didn't seem particularly inspired.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_04: But there also was a lot of cinematography that I did enjoy.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_04: I really enjoyed the uh kind of like the camera, the camera spoke when we went through places where we're like, is she is is Loan reading Verity's work like messing with her mind or is it or is she actually seeing things?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: We did a lot of we did a lot of interspersing of her like fantasizing, you know, going someplace else and fantasizing and uh interspersed with reality uh so that it was and it was seamless.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_04: And I thought that that was really good.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_04: I thought that was really good speaking with the camera.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: And I thought the camera did a really good job of leading the audience down the wrong path of what we were supposed to be concerned about.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I'll get to that more when we get to plot, but we were we really were led by the camera so often, and that was really good.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm willing to give this a four for cinematography.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I think of scenes where you know we see Verity pop up in the hallway and we walk into her den and we see him uh you know on the couch and and Loen straddles him, and then we see Verity in the background watching, and then and then we see Josh Hartnett become Verity and they're making out, and it's like what partly, you know, like we don't know reality versus her it it it give it makes Loen seem like an unreliable protagonist, and and it's all done with the camera that we don't have to talk about it, we don't have to give exposition about is this person an unreliable so that's that's what I mean when I mean when I talk about speaking with the camera.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and it did a good job in lots of ways.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_04: For score, I felt that the I felt that the score was really good.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_04: I I actually found that the uh score was setting the mood a lot of times.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_04: You know, a lot of in a lot of movies I feel like the score conflicts with the mood or it overrides the mood or it takes me out of it, but I felt like the score really, you know, I could feel the tension in build-up with the score.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_04: I do remember it quite a few times.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and and and it were it a I could really tell that the director of this worked with uh you know the sound director and the director of photography and was like, no, we're like this is I have a vision for how this scene is gonna play out, and and all of us are leading towards something, and that's difficult to do.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_04: And I wouldn't say it's revolutionary or anything, again, not humming the Verity theme, but it was very confident.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_04: You are you're humming the Verity theme.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_04: All I heard were these splits.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_04: Around the entire theater.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know where they were coming from.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Not a dry seat.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm also giving it a four.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_04: So right now this is stacking up to be really good.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_04: Uh for plot.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: I felt like the plot did a really good job of keeping the conversation about whether Verity was faking her illness rather than whether she was guilty or not.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like throughout the entire movie, we we the conversation they they dispelled our rumors about the about whether it whether this manuscript was true really early.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_04: And so it became entirely about whether she was faking her illness or not.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_04: And then at the end, it brought back in, well, actually, here's what you should have been worried about.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_04: Which you know, that interview at the end kind of felt like a what would I call it?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a sting, right?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a sting at the end, and then you're left with that sting rather than the end of the movie.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: I I really did not like that final interview because like there should have been like in the book, you leave with a multiple set of options, and then adding that interview at the end, it was like you were trying to dog walk us into one of them, and like why is that necessary?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_04: Why I I actually don't think that.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_04: I actually don't think they were trying to dog walk us into one.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: What I think they were doing was patting themselves on the back, which which to me left a bad taste in my mouth.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, still not good.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: When someone's like, you know, that whole time when you were focused on this, what you should have been focused on is whether any of it was true.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's like we are good.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_04: God, we are good.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, okay, and and that that scene actually like we'll we'll talk about it in the next section, which isn't uh it won't be so much about philosophy, but it'll be about like cinematography and like what that what that means, like what that technique is and what it does to the audience.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, but but it it is the plot.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's still the plot there, and it kind of it kind of fucked with it for me, and it left a bad taste in my mouth.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: And so and it also made me think about like it made me think about the plot more, which made me like it less.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll get into it more in the other area.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: So I think I'm actually only gonna give the plot a three.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: It's whatever.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_04: Generally, the plot is you know what?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, I'm gonna give it a 3.5.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to hate on this plot too much because yeah, it was good.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_04: I was engaged the whole time.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_04: I was engaged the whole time, and it worked, and it worked on me mostly until I started thinking about it just a little bit.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_04: It turned my brain off because it was so sexy.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_04: And and uh yeah, it was still really enjoyable.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_04: For rewatchability, uh, I'm gonna watch this movie again.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'll watch this movie with Sarah as soon as it comes out because uh I that means that means I don't have to put in any foreplay work.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Just give it a go to Johnson, Josh Hartnett, and Man Hathaway.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Get you where you need to be.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: Like, maybe I'm gonna step away for a second, I'm gonna go light some candles.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_04: You keep watching this movie, I'll be right back.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do all the all the the work up front.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so yeah, so I'm gonna give it a four for rewatchability.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_04: I might watch this again in the future sometime because it it really is, you know, it's a really beautiful film.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_04: Uh it's shot really well.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_04: It's it was it was a real it was a joy to watch it.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_04: I felt uncomfortable at times uh and squirmed a little bit, but it was still it was still a joy to watch.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_04: And uh yeah, yeah, give it a four.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, cool, cool, cool.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_04: So calculated, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, pleep, bleep.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: Uh 3.9 average, pretty, pretty high.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, for me, so I uh I liked the acting.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I I this this was the first time for me that I uh really appreciated uh Dakota Johnson.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um but no, I I thought everyone I thought everyone did really well.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: I I think Josh Hartnett for me uh was a bit of a standout.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: I I think he did a really he did a really good job.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_04: And good job being a dad, like portraying a dad.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they definitely picked him up from Trap.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um the Shyamalan nonsense.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: I I I'm pretty sure we ripped that apart, didn't we?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_04: Which he was also good in.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_04: The movie as a whole, maybe not.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: We might have.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_04: We might have, but he was really good in it.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_04: The movie maybe not uh movie didn't stand up to intellectual scrutiny, but he was still enjoyable.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that that's M Nite on the line.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you you look at one of his movies for more than 30 seconds, and you're like, what?
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: The the aliens die from water, came to a planet that's mostly what what?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: And they don't have guns.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_04: They went to fucking they went to the Midwest as humid as balls there.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_04: There's just water in the air.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the water's blowing all over you.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever walked through a cornfield?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_04: You don't walk out dry.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_04: They they spray the cornfield all the fucking time.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_04: They spray it with water because plants need water to grow.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so dumb.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um, very holy shit, science is dumb.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Fun to watch, dumb.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: I enjoyed it, yeah.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've watched that movie.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_04: It's fun to watch.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: I actually I kind of want to go watch, I'm gonna watch it again today, probably after talking about it.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_04: Stupid.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but um I would say um the acting here was really great, and I do like Josh Hartnett.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I liked him for like because early on we saw him in like those, you know, like like he was in Sin City too, and they he was just like a kind of a side thing.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why didn't we have more of him?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: He like he fits the bill.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know who he pissed off.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: But I liked him a lot.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: I thought he was great in this, and I thought everyone else like was really good as well.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: The only one who wasn't was Verity's nurse.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, she wasn't very good.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that I'm gonna give acting on this one a four.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_04: Acting four, got it.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, acting's a four.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh cinematography, I agree with you.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: It was very, very competent.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so then cinematography, it it definitely takes you to a place.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like the the uh the home that this takes place in felt very real.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: The um just just when very not Verity, um Lowen is in the agent's office and the the publishing office.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: It made her feel like it made me feel small.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was like the like you said, the the camera was definitely telling a story with us, and it it did things very, very well.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um so for cinematography, I'll give this one a four.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: Score.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was surprised.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: They did use um actual songs every once in a while, but they were done very sparingly, and they were done very well, they fit really well.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I usually, you know, we'd like, I don't remember the score, so I'm gonna give it a three, you know.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: But um this one, I do remember the score.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Songs within the score were used very appropriately, they set a mood.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: The the music in this was very purposeful.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, uh I I'm not gonna be humming the Verity tune.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: But this definitely put some effort into score and was well done.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give the score a four.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Plot difficult for me because I read the book.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think anyone is gonna read the book, walk into the theater, and be as happy as they were when they read the book.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because to me, this felt so it was like reading the book on fast forward.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: So many things were skipped.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I felt like, you know, obviously in the book, there's so much buildup to little things like biting the headboard.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: There was in the book, there was so many more run-ins with Verity as she's sneaking around doing her thing.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: And in the movie, those were just very much glossed over to get to the next beat.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that's interesting that you say that.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I had I had been thinking just now about the biting the headboard and how the you know uh camera was able to convey to us like how how uh Loan was like replacing, like taking the in impression, just taking, she was exactly taking the space of Verity.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, you know, and uh you know, you talked about how it rushed through it to get to the next thing.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't feel rushed because I didn't read it, right?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: Uh it felt like it felt like we were moving.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_04: It it felt it felt um it felt really intentional and and it wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't waffling or wasting time, you know.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:27
  unknown: Yeah.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and and see, I think that's the the curse of the book reader when it comes to movie adaptations, is it's never gonna be quite the same.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: But and I'll talk about this part in rewatchability.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's never gonna be quite the same, but like like for me, I I I've read all the dunes and everything like that.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was I was a big fan of the novels to a point.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually, they just went fucking insane.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: But uh upon multiple watches of the Dune films, I was able to like them more.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I was able to get past just my brain being in novel mode.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe on rewatchability, my my score will adjust and I won't feel it so rushed.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: But in this one, just just for me, moments that were so just monumental in the novel.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like her biting the headboard was a big fucking deal.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, just think of where you are mentally to put your teeth in Miss Woman's teeth marks while you're getting railed by Josh Hart in it, dude.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's oh that's a wild fucking time.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, we've all been saw you saw it.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_04: It was really great the way they built up to that, and that they continued to push through to the point where Loan was like, You don't deserve this, and I'm gonna, I I want it.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_04: I want your child and I want your house and I want your husband, you know, and I'm gonna take it.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_04: And like like it built up to that point, and like the little steps like that were just fantastic.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you can wear her clothes, you know, go grab something from her closet.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_04: You look in, she's like, Oh yeah, I'll take this, and I'll wear her, I'll wear a red dress like she did.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I I you know actually, I'm gonna go back and change my cinematography to 4.5.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_04: No, speaking with the camera is so good there.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, uh and oh my god, it was it was funny because uh, you know, my my girlfriend, she she watched it with me.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: And she's by the time we leave the theater, she's three Long Islands deep.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: And uh she is just so um in Lowen's perspective.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: She feels Loan's the victim, she feels that Loan's can do nothing wrong.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: She's coming from this place of like uh she's empathizing so much on Loan's grief, losing her parents and things like that.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_04: That's what you're supposed to do, exactly.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: And but she's she's just so many long islands deep that we come home and we're arguing about the perspective, and finally I get to a point like I'm not drunk, you know?
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, look, I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I really don't, I have no idea.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then we know we we just let it slide, and then the next day she's like, Yeah, uh, so now that I'm not uh drunk, I see where you're coming from that there's multiple perspectives to this movie.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, great.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um listen, dude, you gotta learn.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_04: You just fuck, you just agree and fuck, and then you can talk about it tomorrow where you disagreed.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: We you you are totally correct.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: We we altered the order of what I should have done.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh, you know, whatever.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: It is what it is.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, still a lot of fun.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: We had a good time, we had a good time, you know.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: We we we argue about mute movies in in good fun, even three long islands deep.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Well, what are we even arguing about?
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but it just uh the book reader's curse.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm gonna put the plot on this one at a uh fuck.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: I want to be vicious.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: Verity won't appreciate it.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna go with 2.5 on the plot.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna like throw a football at her, alright?
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, holy shit.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's only so much you can fake being non-responsive.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: Hey Verity, yeah, gotcha.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: You caught the football.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't want to take that to the nose.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm pretty sure in the book she may have been on some paralyzers, like she was doing that to herself.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: But it's been a year, anyway.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, rewatchability.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: I do want to re-watch this again on my own.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: If someone wants to watch it, I I'll I'll ask, why do you want to watch Verity with me?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what why wait a minute?
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: Why were you drawing my bathwater?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'll have some questions, but I'll watch it again.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, me and me and my girlfriend will probably want to watch it again.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a fun movie, it was good.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: So uh rewatchability on this one, I'm gonna give a a 3.5 just because I need to just you know be careful, especially in today's world with everything that's going on.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: If someone wants me to watch Verity and is drawing my bathwater, you need to ask why.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_04: I won't.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_04: If anyone wants to watch Verity with me and they want to get sexy about it, I'll be happy.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, whip it out.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_04: I don't give a shit.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_04: Let's go.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_04: Show me what's going on.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: And for that, I give rewatchability a 3.5.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_04: What was your what was your what was your cinematography score?
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_04: A four.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_04: Four.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_04: Uh okay, so it averages out to 3.8, which rounds up to four.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_04: Very impressive.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_04: Which is, which is and it's so funny because right now the reviews across every site are we usually, I think, we usually agree with critics more than we do audiences.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_04: And the critics rated this real low, and audiences rated it 70% on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and I think that that's way closer to where we're rating it.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_04: And it's um, it's just it's kind of funny.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_04: It we if that's not usually how we do it.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_04: And I think critics hated this.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: The that tracks, I can I can definitely see that.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: I I I don't the this is not this isn't this is a movie.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: It is not cinema.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_04: Right, right, right.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_04: But it is cinema.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, though.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_04: In its own way, like schl, it's schlock, but it doesn't, it doesn't the mastery of yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_04: The mastery of the craft used to create the schlock is still really good.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_04: It's like um, it's like a it's like a really like detailed sculpture of a butthole.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like it's and it and it's like people are like, I don't like the like critics are like, I don't like the butthole.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_04: And people are like, but look, it's such a good butthole.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_04: Like, look how well it's done.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_04: That looks just like a butthole.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like I feel like I could touch it and my finger would go in.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_04: And and it's kinda it's kind of like that.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, but yeah, I I I think that this is a really well done movie, and it managed to engage me, a person who gets bored and annoyed by a lot of movies.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, no, and no, and and our system has always looked at everything for what it is.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're like I said, we're the perfect system, and our arguments are undeniable and irrefutable.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: Also, the director, Michael Showwalter of Wet Hot American Summer Fame, was the director of this.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_04: Again, once again, sketch comedy moving into other forms uh in being a director.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_04: Go from sketch comedy to director.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_04: It's a really interesting pipeline.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_04: And he, I think this is I think this is great.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's getting I think it's bullshit what critics are doing to this movie.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's nonsense.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_04: I think this movie is is it's it's a it's a it's a it's a gutter book.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_04: It's romanticy, you know.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh oh yeah, I guess not romantic, but it's like romance gutter shit.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and and you can still make you can still make a good movie from that.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_04: Uh an engaging movie.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a 90, it's like it's like 90s mentality, like sh like dirty thriller, you know?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's a dirty thriller.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, with that being said, it's time to get on to the second part of this.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's time to get into the golden path.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: Means I need some more golden tequila.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_04: I've been neglecting my Ube coffee.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: That is a lot.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_04: I thought it was so funny when I saw Michael Schoalter's name.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_04: Like, what the fuck, man?
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_04: Uh but I had to be.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_04: He was in the he was in the he was part of the state with uh with uh Michael Ian Blueck and Tom Lennon, who was um uh on uh Reno 911.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_04: And uh uh I remember when Michael Ian Black was everyone's problem.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_04: He's he's really funny right now on Have I Got News for You?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh commentating on news.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_04: Uh with uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_04: He's very funny on it.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_04: Amber Ruffin's on there.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_04: She's she's super hilarious.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, the state had a has like a bunch of like really funny sketch comedians who you probably know.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here is to Verity and a very respectable four out of five.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_04: Very respectable.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_04: Cheers.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know why people like gold tequila.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh people hate themselves.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_04: It's the same people who uh who really love uh Verity.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_04: It's a dirty taut tequila.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's so taut.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: What did it say?
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was round and supple.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: So round and supple.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck yeah.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, and congratulations on a very round and supple four out of five.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: So welcome to the golden path.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: It is time.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: I totally forgot.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's wild.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we were just talking about Dune again, and the Golden Path is just a big ass Dune reference that we literally do once a week.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's insane.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: I forgot about that.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: We uh we co-opted it.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: High and dry is now what you think of when the golden path is brought up.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: Timothy Chalamake and go fuck himself.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I hope he does.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'd watch that.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: Get his ass in buried.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: Josh Harden throwing his ass up and making him bite fucking Dakota Johnson's teeth marks.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be a whole fucking movie.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_04: This this this age gap feels inappropriate.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_04: But with Timothy Chalamet?
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_04: I think he's older than you think he is.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean he's he's he's nowhere near Josh Hardinett.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_04: No, he's nowhere near Josh Hartinett, that's true.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_04: But you know.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, I feel like look, he's he's 30.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_04: He's 30 years old.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_04: Then you're gonna I feel if you're over 30, you've got you're in the you're in the zone for taking risks on age gap relationships.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, and I also feel like if I'm 30, don't fucking tell me who I like.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: If I want to fuck a 70 year old woman, yeah, fuck you.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's my choice.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: I am 30, dude.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: I have gray, like I can choose.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_04: Who I fuck.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_04: Fuck you.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_04: I have life experience.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_04: That's the important thing is having life experience.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: I have life experience.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: My brain is fully developed.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you tell me.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you tell me that I can't fuck this old woman.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_04: My brain is clogged with uh uh bong resin and and malted hops.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_04: Never developed.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: Look, look, it was completely developed, but then I fucked it up.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: That was my choice as a 30-something.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, if I want to fuck up my brain and fuck a senior citizen, that is my choice.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you dare tell me I can't.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I have to say about it.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: Once you reach an age, you can fuck whoever you want.
• 45:00
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: On the other side.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: Up.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, upward.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_04: Upward.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: Upward.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: You can fuck whoever you want.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: Upward.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Once you reach an age, all bets are off.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: I do what I want.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: Upward.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: So break that up, Granny.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And government or TikTok can't tell me that I'm the victim.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: She's the victim.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you watch the tape.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: If you watch the tape, she's the victim.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now sign it.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: What were we saying?
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: So golden path.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: Golden path, Verity.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, let's talk about it.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, uh, I mean, there obviously there's a lot here about uh well, first off, what do you think the truth was?
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_04: What do I think the truth was?
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_04: It doesn't matter, is my opinion of it.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_04: Is I didn't really contemplate what the truth was.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_04: Because it really didn't matter, because the material reality was already done.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_04: They already did what they did.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_04: And yes, they already did what they did, and the the material the the truth doesn't matter at that point.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_04: What what are they gonna do about it?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: You all did terrible shit before knowing the truth.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: The truth is irrelevant now.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh yeah.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_04: And that's the thing, is when they came in with the sting, the stinger at the end, where they were like, but what you know, the I I wrote in, that's what I'm proud of, is I wrote, I may I played with the truth so that people didn't know what it what what to believe.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, and that's how the movie ended with that Verity interview.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and that's where I was like where they patted themselves on the back.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_04: No, you buzz missed the point.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, it was so smug, and it was, and it definitely made me go, man, if you're gonna feel that smug about it, that's gonna make me think about if you executed it well.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like, you know, when I think about like that, it's like this movie relied entirely on a bunch on just a handful of cops and a medical examiner being incredibly stupid, like like it relied entirely on that.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_04: Because her lungs wouldn't have water in them the same way a drowning victim would, yeah, which a medical examiner would find immediately.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be the first fucking thing.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yo, she didn't drown.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: And and no one, and no one questioned the fact that there was a young hottie in uh in this house uh at the same time she died, and then like even even if even just a few months later she gets pregnant, that's gonna be local news and shit.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um, someone should someone would reopen that, right?
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_04: Someone would be like, we have to look into this shit again, because this is like this is suspicious as fuck.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, well, but I'm gonna stop you right there though.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_01: She is not a young hottie.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: She is our age exactly.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: And well, yeah, you don't think of yourself as a young hottie?
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm I'm a very middle, like I'm I'm approaching middle-aged hottie.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so I meant in comparison.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, Anne Hathaway is not that much older.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Anne Hathaway's like, what?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: She's 52.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_04: I think she's less than that.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_04: Is it isn't it true that she's uh that she's 50?
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, she might be, you know.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_04: Let's look real quick.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_04: And Anne Hathaway is 43.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she's not much older than us.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, yeah.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, well, I mean, Josh Hartnett decided to just drop five years.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's Josh Hartnett himself, is 48.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's fair.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Josh Hartnett's the predator.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: But no, they're all over 30.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: We already established that they're already stabilize.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_04: Is not a big deal.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_04: No, no.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_04: But but anyway.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so so it relied on people being really dumb and not asking any questions whatsoever.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, because it's all suspicious as fuck.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: The movie got me to buy in, though.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_04: So I like enjoyed it until the end.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_04: And that's that's part of movies that have like tricks like this.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_04: I wanted to talk a little bit about the about about this because it's cinematography, right?
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_04: It's the tricks of cinematography.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_04: One one person who is like one of the best filmmakers of our of our age, of the of the the 2000s, is Christopher Nolan.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_04: Wet American Summer.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_04: Michael Show Alter, yeah.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but no, uh, Christopher Nolan is like well known for his cinematic tricks.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_04: And you there's there's always one specific scene that gets referenced.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna do it again because it's it's it's the scene that that it perfectly exemplifies what I'm talking about, which is in the dark night, Batman is riding on his motorcycle, and it's daytime, and he goes uh under he goes into a tunnel and he's speeding in between the cars, and he comes out the other side of the tunnel, and it's nighttime.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_04: And we've like it's like a scene, it's like a time-lapse transformation, and you don't, you don't you don't think about it.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_04: You don't think about it because there's a transition there, and it's a transition that's done like expertly.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_04: And it it does something that's impossible, but you don't you think about it later, maybe, but I'm not mad at it later because it wasn't like ooh, look what I did.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um, whereas this movie literally then goes, ooh, look what I did, look what I did.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: We did it with the hot ones guy, like yeah, that pisses me off.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't give a shit.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: He he's popular enough.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, our shitty podcast could talk some shit.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: He has the personality of a boot.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I like it, I like him.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_04: I like hot ones, and like, and now he's dating Kiki Palmer, and that's fun.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_04: He said he said offhand to someone, they're like, Who who he was in an interview and and they were like, What's one celebrity you'd love to date?
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_04: And he's like, You know, I had Kiki Palmer on, and she was really great.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'd love to date her.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_04: And then Kiki Palmer like reached out and wanted to be back on, and then they went out to dinner, and they're apparently dating now.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: So that's funny.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: That pisses me off.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that reminds me.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: That that pisses me off because he's not he's a nice guy, he's nice, yeah.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: But like that, that's such a fucking rock star move.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_01: That reminds me, and I hate the fact that there is a hot ones link to Wayne Static of Static X.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: Wayne Static was asked once on like Rolling Stones, like, no, no, no.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it was Tara Reed was at not Tara Reed, Tara Ray, Tara Ray, a porn star, was asked once on like Rolling Stones, like who, like, because you're you get fucked all the time.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you could pick, who would you fuck?
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, I would pick Wayne Static of Static X.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: And Wayne Static saw that interview, picked her up, she retired from pornography.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: Wayne Static kept being a rock star with drugs and static X, eventually O D'd, and then Tara Ray then is so distraught by the loss of her rock star lover, kills herself.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah, and it would be like tragic, horrible, but the ultimate fucking rock star goddamn move to find out a porn star is into you, pick her up, and like it's just you and me now, baby.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: You but you know that that's what the fucking Hot Ones guy did.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_04: Well, he would be the porn star, so like he's the professional chicken eater that Kiki Palmer the Kiki Palmer Palmer is the new one.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that makes me feel better about it.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, good.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're good.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: All right, I feel better.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, what I was saying about when Christopher Nolan does that transition.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_04: He needed it to be nighttime for Batman to be Batman.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_04: And so it was it was a sleight of hand, it was like a cinematic sleight of hand to get us to focus on the things uh the the on what he wanted us to focus on.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_04: He wanted us to focus on Batman going to be Batman and not on the environment changing, right?
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_04: And this movie used its cinematography to focus us on the things it wanted us to focus on, which was you know, Loan and her relationship with Jeremy and that and the idea that Verity might be faking, which was not the real concern, it was whether it was true, right?
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it did that, but then at the end it went, did you see what we did?
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_04: And and and Christopher Nolan doesn't do that.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_04: So I I think that that's a big thing, is that a sleight of hand, like a well-executed slide of hand, is super impressive.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_04: If you've ever seen someone do like slide of hand, it's fucking impressive.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_04: But you but it's also something you can learn and like you train, and then it's a skill and you do it, it doesn't make it clever inherently.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's impressive, but not inherently clever.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what happened with this is the cinematography wasn't inherently, it was really impressive, but then it patted itself on the back like it was clever, which is not the case.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_04: This the story where you're misdirected is a thing that happens all the time, you know.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_04: We misdirected you.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: What's truly impressive?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, can please.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, no, it's okay, it's okay.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I was getting ready.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you're gonna move on, you're gonna transition.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_04: A clever thing would be to tie up the loose ends.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_04: Like, why didn't why didn't Verity, when she was being attacked, confess, you know, like when he brought in and was like, here's the thing, you know, I'm gonna why did Jeremy did Jeremy just do like a really good acting surprise there when he read the script?
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_04: Did uh when when he came in to show her the manuscript and was like, I'm gonna take this to the police, they're gonna put you away for a long time.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_04: You know, why wasn't she like, listen, it's a right, it was a writing, it was a writing thing.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_04: You I didn't think you'd understand.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, why not with the writer, like the the Loan who's been reading her things?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_04: Why wasn't she like, It's a writing, you're a writer.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_04: This it was a writing experiment, and I'm actually afraid because my husband tried to kill me.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_04: I've been stuck here because my husband tried to kill me.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_04: You know, uh, you understand a writing experiment where you put yourself in the mic, like you understand what this is.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_04: That would have made a lot of sense.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_04: And there were all these opportunities.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_04: There would have been that's where there were a lot of plot holes there when I go back and look at it, and it makes me be like, that that stinger like was a souring of what came before it.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_04: This possibly could have been a higher rating, you know.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I felt like it was soured by that.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_04: No, and don't don't do it, don't do it, filmmakers.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's a bad philosophy to pat yourself on the back at the end of your movie.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: It like, and all I will say is that uh, you know, as far as like podcasts go, what's truly impressive, sleight of hand wise, is being able to relay Christopher Nolan to the hot ones to Wayne Static.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: And for that, we're gonna pat ourselves on the back and move into the next portion of this.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's time to insert ourselves into Verity.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: So uh, yeah.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: So how does Verity Change with Ryan Barron North and James Croslin?
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_04: James, you want to go first or should I go first?
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'll let you go.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'll let you go.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so let's see, who would I be in this movie?
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_04: I would say, like, my my part of this movie, I would be introduced um right at the portion where they start canoeing.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_04: I would be at the front of the canoe.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_04: I'd be I'd be an eight-year-old girl.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_04: I would be so high and I would die high in the water.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_04: That's uh that's the entirety of the water.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_04: Verity was just kidding me.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not great at balancing in canoes.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_04: It's actually, you know, I love the water and stuff.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_04: I've been on the water my whole life.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_00: Lim, you would there's no way Verity would take you out.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's no fucking way.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_04: Uh maybe the water, maybe it's cold.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_04: Uh there's a sinkhole at the bottom that's sucking me down.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_04: I'm bad in canoes.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_04: But you're great in the water.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, that's true, I guess.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_04: Uh you're right.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, so I would survive, and then I would be as her daughter, I would try to get revenge.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_04: I would notice what she did.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_04: And so I it would turn into me stalking her, like setting up situations where like poisoning her cigarettes, and like uh I would I would change her novels where she'd go back and read them and be like, What is this?
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_04: And it'd be like finding her and killing her until eventually uh she uh she would be like driving us somewhere and I would have has I would have disabled the brakes on the car and she would have crashed and it would have just been I would have made sure my brother was buckled and she would have died, and then it would just be us and dad and wouldn't have to worry about her anymore.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, for me, yeah.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I I would be I'd be completely uninvolved because I'd I'd be it would be the agent.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: I would no, I would be a writer going up for this position, and they're like, and like the agency is like, hey, you know, he he writes really dark.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, maybe a little too dark.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: We'd have to like dial him back a bit, but we'd rather have to dial him back than teach him to be darker, you know?
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I would come into the office and Josh Hartnett would see me, and he's like, he doesn't look anything like my wife.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: I have I'm gonna have a hard time fucking this guy.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I'm gonna be able to fuck this guy.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: And they're gonna be like, Well, what are you talking about?
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Well, like, this writer's obviously gonna come live with me, right?
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, What?
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, why would we do that?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because of all of her notes.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well, put them in boxes.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, like we're gonna give him the boxes and notes.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no, you're not.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: And um, it's like, Jeremy, what what are you talking about?
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think happens next?
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, well, he's gonna come live with me and we're gonna fuck.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's not how books are written.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_04: That's how my wife's books were written.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_04: That's all I know about writers is that they live with me and we fuck.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: So he's gonna be really confused.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna show up.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: Jeremy isn't gonna want me to be there, and then I'm gonna make a joke about the agent.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: And the as soon as I saw that agent, I would look at her and I would say, no capes.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: And and I would be like, No, you're gone.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I would be cut off.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I would go back home to my shitty apartment, and I would start drinking, and that would be never stop.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: And never stop.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and um, yeah, no, and then I I would uh eventually go off and find a woman 40 years older than me, make her the victim, and that would be uh that would be my story.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: So there you go.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: Great, yeah.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: Josh Hartnett would be like, no, the company would be like, no, and I would never be involved in this story whatsoever.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I would like to learn that Josh Hartnett's, you know, a grown man of a daughter who can't die in a canoe accident, eventually finished off arrogant.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, huh, well, there you go.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: It all works out in the end.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_04: I would uh if if if I had to be, if I had to like put myself in another character, I would definitely be low and I would masturbate all over that house.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_04: She only did it in the tub that one time.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_04: I would have masturbated all over that house.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: And the curtains on the curtain.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would have been so wet the whole time.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_01: Just constant masturbation.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: As you explain what it's like to have a vagina.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, I would have been dope.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and there you have it, folks.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_04: What does headboard taste like?
• 1:02:35
  unknown: Wow.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: There's that podcast for you.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: So we're high and dry podcast, everybody.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, we are just as trashy as Verity, apparently.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: So there you go, folks.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're a what what was it?
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: It was a uh We are high and dry podcast, a round and supple experience, just as trashy as Verity.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_01: With me as always, James Crosslin.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Verity.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: Four to five.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_01: Enjoy.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_01: So bye.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_01: Enjoy your resting bored face.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.