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"Who are YOU?" (Tuesday September 16, 2025, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: But you also had people that were.
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Speaker 2: Very five people on boat side.
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Speaker 3: Making mornings great again. First thing today on the Chunk
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Media Network by Joe Thomas.
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Speaker 1: Your words at steal me step.
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Speaker 4: You have a day at least for work when the
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sun comes up, drops a pet at the school, not
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in the way.
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Speaker 5: Joys everything ad all the jas needs no wonder Joe
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Zalis smile, he only eggs.
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Speaker 1: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to
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you this morning. We tell you the news, we break
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the news down and package them in easily digestible gummies,
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and then ask you how it's impacting you where you are. Really,
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the most local part of any radio station is you.
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And I know they all talk about all all the things,
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but you and you and me, we're the local part
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of any broadcast. So you tell me what's happening where
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you are at four three four eight eight two four
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two one seven. Who the heck are You? I wasn't
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going to quote the who song all they slipped it
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past the FCC all those years. Who the junk are you?
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Who are you? Played that clip of President Trump from
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twenty seventeen for a reason. Who is the I even
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hate to use the word political side, But who are
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the people that acknowledge one another? And that, for at
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least the sake of a conversation, we all have something
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to share. Who is it? Look around? There are political ideologies.
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There are people in your world who will discount anything
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somebody says because it doesn't fit their narrative, if you will,
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if it challenges their paradigm, they can't cotton it. They
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can't permit that it even exists. And then there are
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people like President Trump and Charlie Kirk who said you
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acknowledge that they're though they seem few and far between
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between great people on any side of an issue, ardently
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pursuing the things that are in there. Usually they're not
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the ones with the TV cameras in front of them.
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You want to find the very fine people on both
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sides of an issue, you just don't look for the
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TV cameras. VV cameras are generally the ones following the
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people who aren't necessarily so open minded. So it made
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Charlie Kirk so infuriating to everybody. And yeah, it's still
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going on. We've got some scary stories of people who
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are just completely tone daff to what's going on in
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and around. We'll get into all of that with you
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this morning at four three, four, eight eight, two four
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to two one seven text messages or phone calls. You
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also email to JT in the Morning radio at gmail
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dot com. Don't know what that was all about, but
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we have for the most part audio artifacts, notwithstanding repaired
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our computer systems here on the lunar module of Apollo
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thirteen in the Morning and our first things. FBI Deputy
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Director Dan Bongino said Monday to Newsmax that investigators have
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uncovered significant developments suggesting a broader network of people that
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might have been at least involved in the assassination plenty
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of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. Bongino said that
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bureau is working to determine whether online chatter that surfaced
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around the time of Kirk's murder indicates fore knowledge of
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the plot. He cautioned that the investigators are still working
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out a timeline. Meanwhile, Cash Betel, his boss at the FBI,
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said that they have new information from the digital devices
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of the murderer. Patel said that authorities are going through
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the killer's digital footprint and the alleged killers digital footprint
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and the people he communicated with leading up to Kirk's murder.
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Quote seized multiple electronic devices from the home of the
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suspect and his romantic partner. We've got computers, We've got laptops,
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gaming systems, cell phones. Also said that the shooter, the
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alleged suitor, referenced hatred while planning the assassination online, and
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when he was asked why, he responded to one of
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the folks he was chatting with, some hatred cannot be
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negotiated with. Stephen Miller, Whitehouse Deputy Chief of Staff, also
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said Monday that there will be an expensive federal response
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to what he described as organized networks contributing to political violence,
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invoking the death of Charlie Kirk as the impetus for
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his remarks. The chair of the National Legal Policy Center,
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a nonprofit watchdog group that monitors' reports on ethics of
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public officials, sent a strongly worded cease and desist letter
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to the Open Society Foundations following Kirk's assassination, claiming it
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think about this sometimes, having studied
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the damn thing and am in an adjunct business, but
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I'm not necessarily sure television was a great idea. As
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I said at the onset of the program, react to
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me four three four eight eight two four two one
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seven faster than you can say. Marshall mccluan, You look
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got pop up ads on my smartphone telling me that
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some woman is going to teach me how to do
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great YouTube videos using just my phone. Can we send
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her to James Carville first? Can we get the brother
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a camera? Come on, I'm not I didn't help some
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guy from Arkansas get elected president and I have a
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camera in my studio. James sitting in his Barkat lounger
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with his LSU gear on.
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Speaker 7: I'm halfway across the room.
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Speaker 1: I'm just going, yeah, like this because y'alla, you know
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I have disrespect for you. Who are you? Are you
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the ones who like moths or other pests that are
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about to get zapped by the backyard zapper flying towards
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the light? And it's truism. If you want a crowd,
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get a TV camera and some lights and set them up.
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People will kind of gravitate to it. I'd love to
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say I'm over exaggerating, but I've done it before. You
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set up a camera with some lights and people start walking.
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Speaker 2: Over, Oh, what's going on here? Must be something? There's
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a TV camera in a and some lights must be something.
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As if that's the proof to the pudding, Who are
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we I spent last night co hosting a television program
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saying understanding how ironic that sounds, to raise money for
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the Salvation Army. Salvation Army out there, day in day
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out trying to help people recenter their lives. The night
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before that, it was an individual with faith leaders who,
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in the immortal words of Red Buttons, never got at dinner.
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Speaker 1: These folks work quietly, day in day out trying to
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help men and women who have lost their grip on
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society get back on the horse. Let them know that,
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sure things have been screwed up till this point. But
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it's morning in America. It's New Year's Day. Every day
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is New Year's Day. There will be three hundred and
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sixty five more days until September sixteenth, twenty twenty six.
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It is New Year's Day. Who are you? Who are we?
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Speaker 16: All?
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Speaker 1: And understanding the problems is the first way to find
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out who's got their own agendas? How do you find
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the Marxists? How do you find the socialists, especially the
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nationalists socialists? How do you find the Nazis? You figure
17:11
out what the problem is, and then you can start
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sorting people out by what their solutions are and if
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their solution starts with blame. The Jews sort of have
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history with that group. And I bring this up because
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Newsweek is soiled itself over the possibility of a profile
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and discourage to try to make it out that there's
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a maga civil war. Hold it, stop the presses. We
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found another way to use the phrase maga civil war.
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And this morning's news is all full of or awful
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of stories designed to dispirit and discourage conservatives. Why would
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they be on such a hell bend agenda to dispirit
18:08
and discourage Conservatives seek smaller government, greater individual opportunity. Why
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would they be trying to do that? Why would there
18:21
be coordinated stories using six week old polling data in
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Virginia's governor's race. Or who is the one from Louisiana?
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Oh yeah, this Louisiana story. I love this? Or friends
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at WGS, is this guy a hack or what? I
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have no idea if this person is just a straight
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up hack or not. Travis Getty's must be a press
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secretary for somebody in the Democratic Party of Louisiana. Whole
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piece there on the raw story. You know it must be,
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you know it must be on the bleeding edge if
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the the name of the blog is the raw Story.
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So Travis Geddy's writing this whole puff piece entirely fed
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to him by the demogratt we give his great mave
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Coil completely fed this story to this guy. Mave Coil,
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Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee communications director, the sole source of
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his story about how a nasty GOP primary is brewing
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out there behind Senator Bill Cassidy. I mean, in Bill
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Cassidy's defense, I mean, there's only so many people who
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can be a Louisiana senator not named John Kennedy. I mean,
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John Kennedy just sucks all the oxygen out of the room,
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and probably rightfully so. But the entire story, the headline
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is nasty GOP primary brew in a ruby red state
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could hand Democrats a golden opportunity. Really and may've coiled.
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The communications director for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee told
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you that did they did? They? Did they? Travis? And
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then we've got Virginia, Virginia Mercury story about how Abigail
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Spanburger is nine points ahead all hope is lost in
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Virginia when the poll they cite is like three weeks ago,
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long taken long before the Hey Winsome, you can't use
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my water fountain stuff before half of Virginia is on
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record saying celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder. Staffers from Abigail Spanburger's
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own campaign on social media saying f around and get
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what you get. Endorsements from school board members who have resigned,
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By the way, real quick. If you resign in ignominity
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because you're out there celebrating the death of somebody, I
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don't know if it really counts. If your resignation doesn't
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take effect until December thirty first, a resignation of that
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nature should take place on September fifteenth, the day you
21:25
announced it. I'm out, no more votes, not going to
21:30
vote on anymore spending, not going to vote on any
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more classroom agendas. I'm out. She's going to hang around
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for three more months and cast votes on books and
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schools and things like that. Why would these folks have
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this coordinated effort to try to dispirit and discourage conservative voices.
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Could it be all the people at all those rallies. Oh,
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I've got this one. Donald Trump was golfing during the
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Kirk tribute. That's not until the twenty first.
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24:26
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24:31
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Speaker 8: I'm ANDREWS. Saul, Commission of Self Security. I'm here to
25:05
warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
25:10
Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
25:13
will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
25:17
personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
25:21
are not from us. Real solid security employees will never
25:25
threaten you for information or money. If you receive a
25:29
call like this, hang up. Never give the call of
25:33
your personal information like your social Security number or bank account,
25:38
or send money in any form cash, gift cards, wire transfers,
25:42
or prepaid debit cards. Report the call to our law
25:46
enforcement on the Office of the Inspector General at OIG
25:51
dot SSA dot gov.
25:55
Speaker 10: Uh oh, Brad's buzzed.
25:56
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting with the woots.
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Speaker 18: And now a speech.
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Speaker 19: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
26:06
art and brain.
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Speaker 1: Who's with me?
26:08
Speaker 10: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed and my
26:11
brain is saying, when it's time to go home, somebody
26:14
call me a ride.
26:15
Speaker 12: Love that guy, me too.
26:16
Speaker 13: Know your buzzed warning signs call for a ride when
26:19
it's time to go home. Buzz driving is drunk driving.
26:23
Speaker 14: Did you know that more than half our household energy
26:25
costs go to heating and cooling. Energy efficiency isn't just
26:30
good for the environment, It means lower utility bills too.
26:34
One way to reduce your energy waste is a home
26:36
energy assessment. Your utility company can help, or you can
26:40
learn how to do it yourself at energysavers dot gov.
26:44
That's energysavers dot gov. You'll learn to look for air
26:47
leaks around windows and doors, check ducks for holes, and
26:50
improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs is
26:54
when you shop for a new appliance. Look for the
26:57
energy star logo and read the energy guide later. And
27:01
there are day to day things you can do. Lower
27:03
your thermostat in winter and raise it in the summer,
27:06
close fireplace stampers when they're not in use, and keep
27:09
air filters clean. For more tips on saving money by
27:13
reducing your energy waste, check out FTC dot gov slash green.
27:18
A tip from the Federal Trade Commission, the nation's consumer
27:21
protection agency.
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Speaker 1: In question for you.
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Speaker 3: From Joe Thomas, It's first thing today for the academic.
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Speaker 16: Are instrumental in the process of the of the subversion,
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only to destabilize the nation. When their job is completed,
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they're not They're not needed anymore. They know too much,
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some of them. When when they get disillusioned, when they
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see that Marcus Lennin has come to power, obviously they
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get offended. They think that they will come to power
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that will never happen. Of course, they will be lined
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up against the wall and shot.
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Speaker 1: That's that's that's what they learned under that other Joe
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in the morning Joe Stalin uh and joining us. One
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of the fellows who has been such an eloquent chronicler
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but also a great legal mind too in helping win
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back the country is the great Horace Cooper of Project
29:02
twenty one. Good morning, Horace, how are you doing, sir?
29:04
And welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 22: It's always a pleasure to call on the program.
29:09
Speaker 1: So talk about in abstract. A lot of folks have
29:13
been comparing Charlie Kirk's assassination to the assassination of Martin
29:18
Luther King Junior and the peril of quote the movement
29:23
that at that crossroads, what happens without its titular leader.
29:31
What is your feeling knowing what was going on at
29:35
Turning Point USA? And is that a righteous concern?
29:40
Speaker 22: Well, there's no doubt that Charlie Kirk is a martyr
29:46
for free speech. Now.
29:47
Speaker 11: I actually first met Charlie Kirk at a White House
29:53
event during Black History Month for the first Trump presidency, and.
30:01
Speaker 22: I was just amazed as a young man at how
30:05
approachable he was, and then when he asked me about
30:09
being a part of what they were doing, I was
30:12
indeed very very much honored. And I believe that what
30:18
he was doing all the way up until the point
30:22
that he died was signaling that what our founders gave us,
30:28
the greatest gift that they gave us, was this idea
30:33
that we were going to be a republic where people
30:37
were persuaded with regard to public policy, rather than have
30:44
a firearm or a rifle pointed at them and forced
30:49
to embrace a particular type of public policy. Those that
30:54
snuffed him out. I said this just recently the day
30:58
of the shooting on Fox News. They're going to the mindset,
31:06
the so called cancel culture, the so called if we
31:09
don't like you, we must turn you off. That group
31:14
is going to come to regret what has ended up happening.
31:20
And I pledged then, as I repeat now, I will
31:24
be a champion for free speech. I am honored to
31:29
stand shoulder to shoulder with Charlie Kirk and say free
31:34
speech is important and it is a value that we
31:39
must be willing to die for. But I also said
31:43
that I fear that the norm busting event of such
31:48
a such a thing as this assassination will come with consequences.
31:54
I commented that COVID had really really devastating effects, particularly
32:02
on the loss of life. But after a few years
32:06
we turned back and became America again. But you know what,
32:11
after September eleventh, we were changed permanently. And I wonder,
32:17
are we now going to get a new round of
32:22
online monitoring.
32:24
Speaker 11: Of the ability to surveil so that if you go
32:31
to a ballgame.
32:32
Speaker 22: All of the people who attend will have to pass
32:37
facial recognition. These are the kinds of things that when
32:42
you see really consequently events happen, they have an effect
32:49
on the society.
32:50
Speaker 1: We saw it Stephen Miller yesterday saying this Horace cooper
32:54
on with us from Project twenty one Black community leaders.
33:00
Stephen Miller saying that there'll be an expansive federal response
33:04
to what he was called the organized networks, and he
33:09
will be that it'll be used to dismantle and destroy,
33:13
you know, And we brought this up and I felt
33:16
like maybe I was just reading the tea leaves too closely.
33:20
That this was September tenth and September eleventh, and of course,
33:23
our breaking down of the horrors that had happened in
33:27
Utah were taking place in and amongst our commemoration of
33:30
the twenty fourth anniversary of those terrorist attacks. But I
33:34
reminded people that the shock that went through the nation
33:39
was the same, and I see it gives me hope
33:46
that I wasn't so paranoid that I saw some of
33:50
the same things in the reactions to this. And we
33:53
need to fight back that lesser angel and look for
33:59
what Charlie wanted, which was a godly, peace loving ability
34:04
to talk to Because ever since then September eleventh, but
34:07
also twenty seventeen here in Charlottesville, you know, we've been
34:11
told you need to listen to people more, and Charlie
34:15
was the patron say it if you will of listening
34:18
to people. He hit. The whole point of what he
34:20
was doing in Utah was come and tell me why
34:23
I'm wrong. And I think that's what infuriated a lot
34:28
of people quite a bit, is that he was doing
34:31
what they said we should do and still not capitulating
34:35
to their agenda.
34:37
Speaker 22: Horas well, once again we have an example of how
34:42
the left actually doesn't live up to its commitment. Now
34:46
I'm going to just give a brief recount when I
34:49
say norm busting, for decades, For more nearly a century,
34:57
we have had an understanding that when the outgoing president
35:01
leaves office, the incoming president protects the prerogatives of the
35:06
outgoing president, regardless of party, whether that was Nixon, whether
35:10
that was Carter, whether that was Reagan. With mister Biden,
35:14
we had our very first instance where the incoming president
35:19
disregarded the idea that if a president declared executive privilege
35:26
that it would be protected. That's a huge norm buster.
35:30
With the indictment decision of former President Trump, as a
35:35
citizen again who was likely to challenge mister Biden, broke
35:40
another norm and he was supported by the left. We
35:45
are seeing a threat to the actual system that we
35:51
all live in by people who say that they're more
35:55
arrested in transforming America than in maintaining it. Now. Reason
36:00
I'm apprehensive about this terrible, terrible, tragic assassination is that
36:07
it means that you and I and your listeners can
36:12
in fact be in jeopardy because this is asymmetric attacks.
36:18
Speaker 1: Horace. You're absolutely right, and take that dig into that
36:23
a little bit.
36:24
Speaker 22: We can't account for where every person will be and
36:28
what their mindset's going to be. Anyone can show up
36:32
at a public event, and when the public is frightened
36:37
like they were after nine to eleven, you see the
36:41
kinds of changes that become permanent. Not something we want,
36:46
but something that we accept. It's the left in this
36:49
case that could be bringing that about Horace.
36:53
Speaker 1: We're coming up on a break here, Horse Cooper and
36:55
is Project twenty one, the National Black Conservative Network at
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the National Center Nationalcenter dot org. And that's when I
37:04
heard Stephen Miller talk about, you know, using the Departments
37:08
of Justice and Homeland Security to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and
37:12
destroy people who are in many ways critical And what
37:19
is the borderline? Networks engaged and coordinated harassment intimidation certainly
37:26
and you say, yeah, that's obvious. We want people to
37:30
not be allowed to threaten other people and that kind
37:34
of thing. But where does the borderline. We learned that
37:36
after what happened when the Obama administration got a hold
37:41
of the apparatus put in place by the Bush administration
37:45
for the Department of Homeland Security, uh, and what they
37:48
were able to do with that. Come back with more
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Speaker 1: Visiting with Horace Cooper from Project twenty one to the
44:33
National Center, black conservative think tank. Horace talking about the
44:38
concerns what will happen in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
44:44
Speaker 22: I've said on your program many times, the problem is
44:48
that the arguments that the Right puts forward aren't easily countered,
44:55
and instead of attempting to do the hard work of
45:00
during those arguments, they've made a decision to try to.
45:03
Speaker 1: Shut the Right down, which is what Marxism does. Stalin
45:08
taught us that if you don't go along with the program,
45:10
we have a prison cell with your name on it.
45:13
And I think that that's what I feared as much
45:17
as you did, especially in a post Patriot Act world
45:21
where we watched what and certainly as President Bush and
45:25
Dick Cheney all said this is what we're going to do.
45:28
And I talked with Tom Ridge as he was leaving
45:30
to head up the Department of Homeland Security, and he
45:33
promised that these fiz of courts would be very difficult
45:37
to get something passed through. And I was dubious about
45:41
it then and still am. But we see what happens
45:45
when Barack Obama takes over that apparatus and you could
45:50
use it against a political opponent. I mean, back in
45:53
Nixon's day, you had to hire people on the outside
45:56
to break into your opponent's office now you can use
46:00
there's a warrant to get in there.
46:03
Speaker 22: Well, absolutely, and that's part of the norm busting change.
46:08
That is a concern. It would be amazing if we
46:12
could be convinced that the other side regrets this dreadful attack,
46:20
this violent act. But they don't. We're seeing them reveling
46:25
all across the country about this. In other words, they
46:31
think it's a good thing. And maybe they wouldn't do
46:33
it themselves, but someone else who maybe isn't of a
46:38
sound of a mind does And when you have that environment,
46:42
what you see is government rules and regulations, and even
46:47
private sector rules and regulations. Could you imagine every time
46:51
you shop at the Walmart if suddenly they had facial
46:55
recognition software at the entry point. This is what the
46:59
less gives us when they enter it, when they act
47:04
this way. I'm not blaming the movement of the left
47:09
for the death. I know who actually killed Charlie Kirk.
47:14
But I do blame the mindset and attitude that doesn't
47:20
let us see this is one isolated event and that
47:24
afterwards the whole country will come together unified that this
47:30
could never happen again. That's not where we are. And
47:33
if it's not where we are. It puts us at
47:36
a dangerous point in government always looks for dangerous points
47:41
for an opportunity to expand itself.
47:44
Speaker 1: So what do we do? I mean, obviously I'm trying
47:47
to do what Charlie was trying to do is continue
47:50
the discussion, the shining a clee lamp on what the
47:54
Marxist believes and has been trying to do. It's been
47:58
my thoughts since nineteen six four when Lyndon Johnson and
48:02
Company invented America's soft core version of Marxism with the
48:06
Great Society Horus, And is it imperative on people like
48:12
me and certainly people like you and the position you
48:15
hold in Project twenty one, maybe even more acutely in
48:19
the black community, to be pointing this out before the
48:24
authoritarians come in with a we need for your own
48:28
good to do this.
48:30
Speaker 22: Well. Cancel culture worked well because so many elites in
48:36
the mainstream media and the academy have embraced it. It's
48:40
kind of be incumbent upon us over the next eighteen
48:43
to twenty four months to figure out. I mean, there's
48:47
a major change it looks like about to happen at CBS,
48:51
other changes are happening at CNN. Perhaps we're seeing a
48:57
rise in more accountability in the academy where we could
49:02
self police, where we could have people who teach what
49:07
you and I learned when we went to college, that yes,
49:11
I don't agree with your view, but I'm going to
49:13
fight for your right to express it. If we can
49:16
adopt that mindset, and if we can get the safeguards,
49:21
the guardrails in that are going to make it possible
49:26
for us to self police, the kinds of things that
49:29
I'm concerned about aren't going to have to happen. And
49:33
what a legacy, What a legacy for Kirk would it
49:36
be if America as a whole, our country embraces Charlie
49:42
Kirk's view. But if we could get that element, that
49:47
radical element, to reverse course and also agree, then many
49:54
of the threats and the fears of policy changes that
49:58
I have won't have to come. Well.
50:00
Speaker 1: As my dear friend, and I say this not like
50:03
a radio show host, but I am actually personally friends
50:06
with Nick fretis member of Virginia's General Assembly and podcast
50:10
host as Well said on September eleventh, in his post,
50:14
he said they didn't assassinate him because they didn't like him.
50:17
They assassinated him because he was effective. And that's what
50:21
I think you're talking about, Horace is dragging what they
50:25
want to do out into the sunlight, just like pulling
50:28
the white sheets off a Klansman is let them you know.
50:32
And this is what Charlie would do, is tell me
50:34
what you think we should do, and I will discuss
50:37
it with you. And I think that's the most damning
50:41
thing for a Marxist is that when you actually say
50:44
what you want to do, when you're an authoritarian and
50:46
you say, well, here's what I want to do, people say, oh, no,
50:50
I didn't know that's what you wanted, and then they
50:51
turn away from you. I think, is what my belief is.
50:56
And do you share that thought?
50:58
Speaker 22: Well? I do, I do. But I remember that after
51:02
the January sixth events that occurred, the administration hunted these
51:09
people down, scoured the country and frog marks them as
51:14
part of cancel culture now using DOJ. If we could
51:19
have gotten an agreement that they wouldn't do that, that
51:23
they would allow whatever shame of appropriately associated with having
51:31
broken into the capital the way some of them did,
51:34
then we wouldn't see some of the things that I
51:38
anticipate we're going to see they're going to be people
51:41
charged because of their discord account and some of the
51:45
things that they say on it. The point is, when
51:48
the left violates norms, I urge, and I hope that's
51:54
what you're saying. Do I urge your audience. Let's say,
51:59
let's volun I entirely agree we're not going to keep
52:04
going down this track of norm busting, and that we
52:08
can do it as a free people. Stop the threats
52:12
and not make it so that if you or I
52:17
just go out to speak on a campus, we have
52:19
to have an armed brigade launching.
52:22
Speaker 1: Over it, right, yeah, and we have to have somebody
52:24
on every rooftop. It's a scary place. Horace, thank you
52:27
so much at Project twenty one for everything you do,
52:31
your jurisprudence as well. I think as Horacecooper dot com,
52:35
people can just come right to you correct.
52:38
Speaker 22: Check me out actually at the Horace Cooper on X
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and you can also go to www dot Nationalcenter dot org.
52:44
Great Project twenty one and you'll see us.
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