Latest / The Euro Legions Podcast / 87. Further Alliances (with DTour, 13ZCustoms & Blacked Magic Customs)
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- 0:23My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
- 0:26I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
- 0:35It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
- 0:39fake hammer. Oh.
- 0:40A fake Whoa. As I say.
- 0:44Dick, welcome to episode 87 of the Allegiance podcast.
- 0:54This is another Road to Allegiance con.
- 0:56We've got a couple more awesome interviews this week, so settle
- 1:01down and settle into those. We're just going to have a quick
- 1:03chat about some news before we get into that.
- 1:08So how are you Mal? I'm all good, All good.
- 1:11Yeah. Invariably, as we do when we're
- 1:15doing our path to Legions Con, we record at the weekend.
- 1:19So I'm usually pretty good at the weekend and I'm all good.
- 1:24Yeah, the people. You wonder why is he smiling all
- 1:26of a sudden? United haven't played this
- 1:28weekend. Well, that's that's that you'll
- 1:32you'll see in the interviews which day was which based on my
- 1:35expression. Yeah, occasionally when we have
- 1:40in the past, you know, recorded during, when maybe one of your
- 1:43teams has been playing in your, you have it on in the
- 1:45background. It's like I'm always going, oh,
- 1:49I wonder what happened. Oh, and now I know I see his
- 1:51expression. Yeah.
- 1:53This season, big time. Well, last year, you see.
- 1:55And Rich, Rich, you're doing good.
- 1:57Your team won today, so that's not too bad.
- 2:00They did, yes. I missed the second-half.
- 2:01I got dragged out for a family walk.
- 2:03Which is very nice. Well, yeah, you know, you got to
- 2:05do what you got to do, especially.
- 2:06Yeah, Liverpool, you got to record podcast.
- 2:09In the evening so. Exactly.
- 2:13Yes. Yeah.
- 2:14So yeah, no, I'm good. Didn't feel too cold despite
- 2:16getting rid of the huge beard. Yeah, there we go.
- 2:19See. Look.
- 2:19So no, no continuity issues. This has been interviews this
- 2:23week. He threatened to do between two
- 2:26interviews last week, which would have been that would have
- 2:28been fun, wouldn't it? You'd.
- 2:30Have had to painted a paint shop to beard on me or something.
- 2:33John for the second-half again. Yeah, that's that's his.
- 2:36Beard honestly, well, there's been a lot of cool toys revealed
- 2:42in the in the world of in the kind of world that we inhabit,
- 2:46which is a lot of these you know independent toy creators and
- 2:50kind of these fantasy toys and stuff like that.
- 2:53We won't talk about them, but we will talk about what the
- 2:58horsemen revealed, which is the Armory stuff and these are the
- 3:0410 Armory figures that are going to be released next year
- 3:09packaged as figures was kind of finished figures.
- 3:12So they've released this information now, I think to help
- 3:15with people who are going to do their bills at Legions Con, you
- 3:20know, and maybe if they see one of the figures here that's
- 3:22built, that could give them an indication to go for something
- 3:26else that they really want. But the advice also is that if
- 3:29you really, really, really want like the Spice Girls said back
- 3:33in the 90s, and you should probably still get it in the
- 3:37Armory if you can, because there's no guarantee that you'll
- 3:41be able to get it in the cell. Because obviously and in stock
- 3:45sale is in in stock sale, no matter how many figures they
- 3:47have, the demand could be great and one particular figure could
- 3:54sell out. My bet is on the red guy in the
- 3:57front row here, 2nd, 2nd row here.
- 4:00He could be quite a popular one from Is It?
- 4:05Yeah, I might have to. I might have to make it
- 4:09allegiance con. So it will.
- 4:12It was very close to one of your builds, wasn't it?
- 4:14That. One, it was very, very close.
- 4:15Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 4:17So yeah, this was this one, I think was even one that they
- 4:22showed off as an example build. Yeah, it was that one where I
- 4:27had mashed it together and then I looked at the Horseman's page
- 4:34and I saw that they had the one very similar.
- 4:36It looked quite different to my mash up but it was the same
- 4:39parts except for I think the skirt piece.
- 4:41Didn't we say some of these bills I think you can't actually
- 4:44make at the armoury, is that correct?
- 4:48Certainly the one that's right, that that red one that they
- 4:51showed originally, you couldn't make it.
- 4:52Yeah. And I think the thing to note
- 4:54here is it's not all the pieces have been used.
- 4:57So there's 2 green or kind of jade green, there's 2 purple, 2
- 5:02silver, one with the kind of silver armour with the leather
- 5:06and one with the red armor with the reddish leather and then two
- 5:13of the kind of red Red Knights. No cloth arms and legs pieces
- 5:19used. So that's definitely worth
- 5:21noting. No indication if maybe they come
- 5:23with an extra head or not, so that could be something that's
- 5:27revealed down the line, but maybe, maybe not I.
- 5:31Have a feeling probably. Not but.
- 5:33So you get the accessory, you get the bag of accessories that
- 5:36we've seen previously. But this is cool, you know, to
- 5:41let people know when hyped. Is there anyone here that's
- 5:44going to be going for the 10 pack?
- 5:47So this is the all in that they're going to offer for this.
- 5:51I just don't need it. I think this has helped me
- 5:55decide that I'm going to do me two cloth part builds at Legions
- 6:00con and then chants this for the two green Knights and the purple
- 6:05knight in the corner. And if I miss out, I miss out.
- 6:09It's, you know, is what it is. Yeah, for me, this is just icing
- 6:15on top, isn't it for us that are going to allegiance con, you
- 6:18know, so I'm not going to take the, I'm going to take the Mick
- 6:21on this in terms of trying to order too many, especially if I
- 6:24get a few allegiance con. Yeah, I think, I think guys,
- 6:28yeah, I think for me the all in while it's great, you know
- 6:31that's going to hit the, there's threshold for VAT tax and all
- 6:35that sort of stuff here and it's going to push it to a level I'm
- 6:38not really looking to spend on these.
- 6:40So I'll get what I can allegiance con try and get like
- 6:44three of these maybe when the sale goes live and.
- 6:47That the all in for me would be like an amazing birthday
- 6:49present, but it wouldn't be something I'd buy for myself.
- 6:52Do you get me? Yes, yes, that kind of a thing.
- 6:54Like if I got it as a present, I would be like so happy.
- 6:58So it's not the fact that I have it, but if I was to buy it
- 7:01myself, I'd probably say no, I'll maybe get a different
- 7:05figures or I get another a different dollar in.
- 7:08And my other suspicion that this is that after the say, if they
- 7:11do sell out, this is going to be definitely an eBay, an eBay boon
- 7:17for whoever manages to secure a lot of these.
- 7:20So there will be limits, they said on the figures, I think one
- 7:23per. One per person, yeah.
- 7:25Plus the all in. So yeah, pretty cool.
- 7:29So I think that was all the news that we had this week, No, until
- 7:35OMAL has a bit more, but until we're recording this the weekend
- 7:37prior to releasing. So there will be some stuff in
- 7:40the meantime that we will cover now what you got.
- 7:43I was just going to mention the reveal of the four pack of
- 7:47grayscale skeletons. Oh, that's right.
- 7:50That was the other thing. Yes, I missed that.
- 7:53Yeah, so. Sort of answering the call and
- 7:57although I have a feeling it was planned before personally for
- 8:02releasing more skeletons, they're going to do grey
- 8:06skeletons, which will be a pre sale, excuse me, starting the
- 8:1014th of this month, October. That's right.
- 8:13And it's going to be in retailers as well, which is I
- 8:16think the really the really good news.
- 8:18How is it I missed that bit? Yeah.
- 8:19So it's going to be sold direct from the Four Horsemen, but also
- 8:24through the worldwide network of retailers and the same price.
- 8:29So it doesn't. Say the same price of retailers.
- 8:34Oh, that's good. Yeah, So that's going to be
- 8:36good, isn't it? Yeah, definitely.
- 8:38Yeah. So here's.
- 8:40Yeah, here it is. Yeah.
- 8:42So special for edition pack set. Yeah, this, this is something
- 8:47that yeah, if it's, if it's at my retailer, I'll probably pick
- 8:50up, but don't really need some might sell some of my the four
- 8:56that I have. So I don't know.
- 8:57I'll have to see what comes with these or if any there hasn't
- 9:00been any more details as we speak.
- 9:02So there'll be 4 pack. Yeah, I must admit I don't know
- 9:06that I need four of them, but I really like the idea of the.
- 9:10Colour of that sort. Of black and white effect
- 9:13they've got so you know, a big gothic or.
- 9:16So yeah, with these maybe a little bit more like the
- 9:20original skeleton Legion builder color, was he more black and
- 9:25white? No, he was quite.
- 9:28Might know that one, but. He's a bit yellow as.
- 9:30Well, yeah, no, he was. He was more yellow on the bones.
- 9:32The face was quite dark. So the face that's.
- 9:34Yeah, the face maybe. The face was a lot darker than
- 9:37the rest of the bones. Yeah, but again, a cool thing.
- 9:39I mean, obviously people love skeletons.
- 9:41We know that. And these skeletons are popular,
- 9:45and I think they reach a little bit beyond the community in
- 9:48terms of Halloween decorations and that kind of stuff.
- 9:51And you know. Which is probably another reason
- 9:55why they're doing the same price at retailers so that, you know,
- 9:58Joe blogs down the road can just buy a load for next year's
- 10:01Halloween. Yes, exactly.
- 10:03Or or if you're if you're into another type of line, but you
- 10:06know, skeletons fit in a lot of different lines, you know, you
- 10:09could be just, you know, a backdrop kind of character and a
- 10:13die or something like that. So yeah, I think this works
- 10:16great. That was the other interesting
- 10:19thing about the set you it just cuts off before it says the next
- 10:23bit, which I forget, but it's yeah, it mentions new
- 10:26accessories and Oh yeah, that's it, some special packaging,
- 10:29which of course they've gone. How do we get Malcolm to buy 2
- 10:32packs of something he doesn't necessarily need?
- 10:36Put it in a special package. Yeah, those nasty horsemen.
- 10:41Those nasty horsemen. Yeah, I thought the same.
- 10:45So yeah, 14th of October, which is going to be just after this,
- 10:51the Monday after this episode releases.
- 10:52So yeah, look out for those. I've seen at least one of the
- 10:58European retailers in Germany near me has mentioned that they
- 11:01will be getting them on their Instagram, just mighty
- 11:04underground. So check out your local retailer
- 11:08because I think that could be easier than getting them direct
- 11:11depending on where you are. And of course, it's retailers,
- 11:15which is awesome too, you know. Probably depending on which
- 11:18retailer you go with. Perhaps gives you a bit more
- 11:21time to think if you actually. Dropping the cash, yeah, I'm
- 11:24definitely going for one that I don't need to drop the cash
- 11:27before allegiance can. Thank you very much.
- 11:32Yeah. And we, we suggest that to our
- 11:34listeners to save you money for the Euro Allegiance table
- 11:36allegiance. Oh, actually, I don't think
- 11:41we've mentioned that. That is also the 14th of October
- 11:45is the day that the cosmic sale happens, have we?
- 11:50Oh yes, the the heavy gunner has gone up.
- 11:52Heavy Gunner. And other things.
- 11:55But yeah, the heavy gunner, definitely.
- 11:57Heavy gunner, as many of them as yeah, and that's quite limited.
- 12:02That really did seem like it was limited numbers so this could be
- 12:06another skeleton situation. So I will not be waiting for
- 12:09Legions con for that either. I think I will have to get.
- 12:12I think I want 2, so I'll have to order 2.
- 12:17Yeah, my my plan is to go for three, which comes nicely under
- 12:20the VAT, cuts off and gives me what I want.
- 12:22Gotcha. And I did get my Frankenstein in
- 12:25and would you believe it with all the others painting and
- 12:28stuff, I didn't get a chance to open them yet.
- 12:31So, uh, maybe I'll do that for the next, uh, recording that we
- 12:35do. So right.
- 12:38So we get over to our, uh, interviews for this week.
- 12:41Uh, hope you enjoy them and we'll talk to you at the end of
- 12:44them. All right, so here we are with
- 12:51another awesome interview on our road to leaders on.
- 12:53Well, maybe it's not awesome. We have to do the interview yet.
- 12:56So let's see how it goes. But we have a definitely an
- 12:59awesome person in Stefan de Latour from Detour Customs,
- 13:03which we'll have the pleasure of being right beside this year,
- 13:05which is really exciting because there was a lot of fun and stuff
- 13:09going on at your area last year, Stefan, every time I was over in
- 13:13that area. How are you doing?
- 13:14I'm doing well. Thank you guys for having me on
- 13:16the show again. That's just one of my favorite
- 13:19shows and it's always a pleasure to join such a fine company and
- 13:24thank you. Thank you.
- 13:24Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
- 13:28You're keeping busy on the on the way to legions.
- 13:30Can I guess it's one of your biggest shows of the year?
- 13:33Or it is the industrial revolutionary born in this place
- 13:36right now, as you can probably hear in the background, all of
- 13:39my machines are whirring and whizzing like a bad day at the
- 13:43Wonka factory, you know? So I'm gearing up and getting
- 13:45everything, getting ready for the show, you know, every year I
- 13:49try to do bigger and better. And this year is definitely
- 13:53going to be a, it's going to be a big.
- 13:56One, it's going to be a big one. I like it.
- 13:58And have you done what was the you've done Tico New Jersey
- 14:01recently or? Yes, a few weeks ago I did Toy
- 14:04Con New Jersey for that show. I introduced the the Blackstone
- 14:11Throne, one of the newer things that I came out with.
- 14:16But the goal of that show was to kind of clear out some
- 14:19inventory, get some extra fun for Legions Con and kind of
- 14:24clear, clean the slate a bit. And it was a good success.
- 14:26It was a good show. Kind of helped me clear off the
- 14:30bench and kind of reintroduce some new stuff.
- 14:34As much as I'd love to bring back the old stuff, I loved the
- 14:36new stuff even better. So keep things fresh, keep
- 14:39things, keep keep folks guessing.
- 14:42Absolutely. Do you ever sell like figures or
- 14:44anything at these shows or? Off.
- 14:46SO I'm a maniac when it comes to buying legions in particular,
- 14:52but with other lines as well, so I'll always buy multiple.
- 14:55I have this thing called the rule of three.
- 14:57You know, you guys probably suffer the same, you know, one
- 14:59to play, one to keep. It has the rule of 12.
- 15:02Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:04The Dirty Dozen. If if I'm if I'm on a bad day
- 15:07otherwise. It's a rule of 24 generally.
- 15:11Depends on how the bank account looks, I would imagine.
- 15:14But yeah, you know, it was, it was just kind of clearing out
- 15:16the stuff I had duplicates of. I've tried to adopt A philosophy
- 15:21of less is more and don't get it unless you absolutely need it.
- 15:26And in most cases when buying duplicates, I needed all of
- 15:30them. So I'm trying to minimize and
- 15:32kind of keep things a bit less cumbersome than I have in the
- 15:37past. So it's it's all about maturing
- 15:39as a collector for me. Are we there yet rich with the
- 15:45Venturing? No.
- 15:46Oh good Lord, no. I've been saying, I've been
- 15:48saying to you boys on what, the last dozen plus episodes?
- 15:51I'm not going to buy as much this year at Legions Con.
- 15:52I'm not going to buy it. No, it's just about painted
- 15:55heads, no figures blah blah. And then I realized earlier
- 15:57today that I've already pre bought 6 painted heads.
- 16:00We're still we're still 5 weeks out.
- 16:03So it's just like. Some for the other collectors?
- 16:05Come on now. Well, I am helping the other
- 16:08collectors. I was, I was chatting to Len
- 16:10LaGuardia from Wolf King earlier and and I was like, oh, have you
- 16:14got this particular sculpt that I'm after?
- 16:15And he was like, Oh my God, I completely forgot to put on the
- 16:17website. Yeah, I've got that.
- 16:18So, you know, I'm helping other people by reminding him he's got
- 16:21a sculpt and he's put on the website.
- 16:22You've done him a great service running.
- 16:27He's just opened a little drawer in the work in the storage
- 16:30going. Whoa, need to put this on the
- 16:33website. That's it.
- 16:36And Malice, you're, you're keeping us updated and done a
- 16:38lot of those 5K toy stuff that's been that's been going around
- 16:42recently. I mean, most of it I wouldn't
- 16:44even. I mean, I think it looks cool,
- 16:45but I won't buy. But I know Rich particularly
- 16:48likes it, so anything I see. Yeah, Rich, Rich and I are going
- 16:50to go crazy so we can. I have.
- 16:53AI think it's the right place says I have a problem.
- 17:00Just not enough storage, not. Enough cash.
- 17:03Yeah, that too, of course. Yeah, yeah.
- 17:07All those, all those Mad Lion and figures and all that, they,
- 17:10they really do float my boat. So I'm very tempted, but trying
- 17:15to kind of stay on steady course here.
- 17:18So it's tricky. It's tricky.
- 17:20Yeah, I mean, even more trouble for Legions come now because
- 17:26they've announced Valoverse so. Oh yeah.
- 17:29Oh yeah, yeah, Bobby Valla's gonna be at.
- 17:31The other one or. Or other one, I don't know.
- 17:34Yeah. Tell me, guys, what do you
- 17:35think? I I feel as if the, the last
- 17:38month or so, there's been such a surge of reveals and drops.
- 17:44It it's, it's a bit abnormal. It's, it's never been this good.
- 17:47I I feel it's, it's, it's taking leaps and bounds from what we're
- 17:52kind of accustomed to. Everything is a hit.
- 17:55Every day it's a new toy and every day you look at the bank
- 17:57accounts like I'm not going to be able to afford this.
- 17:59So it's, I think we're entering a, a, a what I refer to as the
- 18:05platinum era of collecting, you know, gold era, you know, we get
- 18:09all the properties, but now we're getting high quality, high
- 18:12detail. They're giving us what we want
- 18:15and it's dangerous. Oh, it really is dangerous.
- 18:20Yeah, I get the feeling now and, and I know it's kind of been
- 18:24this way over here for a while, is that there's less collecting
- 18:28by going into, you know, your, your local Target or Walmart
- 18:31and, you know, getting the latest legends or whatever.
- 18:34It's moving more towards online stuff, specialty retailers, you
- 18:39know, kind of even specialty kind of vendors like, you know,
- 18:45like the Horsemen or like, you know, these five case Toby stuff
- 18:49or, you know, all this kind of more like premium level 12, like
- 18:55not OK, not Mezco level, maybe the the between Marvin Legends
- 18:59and Mezco. That's kind of sweet spot.
- 19:01Yeah, that kind of sweet spot. And the, the quality of stuff
- 19:05there is really good, especially if you're, if you're really in
- 19:08the in the know, and I mean, if you're in all these different
- 19:11groups that you really get to know what's good and you can
- 19:15really put a really good collection quite quickly and a
- 19:18big, a big sobbing wallet And tell us that.
- 19:27What I've always been fascinated with you is that how did you get
- 19:29kind of started in this whole thing with, you know, the
- 19:33artistic side of it? So from what I know a bit of
- 19:36you, you used to be in the military or?
- 19:39Yes, actually retired from the Army two years ago.
- 19:42Wow. Served 12 years.
- 19:47Amazing. But before that, you know, ever
- 19:49since. Time as well, yeah. 15 years
- 19:55it's been nuts. It's been completely nuts,
- 19:57completely nuts. But, but as far as like the the
- 20:00customizing journey as a kid, I've always, there's always that
- 20:04dissatisfaction you have with the toys you got.
- 20:06It's like, well, this toy is cool, but.
- 20:08What if it can do this or it looks like this?
- 20:11So you get some twist ties, you get pipe cleaners, you get
- 20:13construction paper. You know, it's to make wrestling
- 20:16rings out of shoe boxes, pencils and rubber bands.
- 20:18So it kind of developed that that imagination and that
- 20:22creativity when you're you're, you're a kid.
- 20:25And for me, it's not something that I've ever let go of.
- 20:28So as the years went by, you know, I tried different mediums,
- 20:32you know, sculpting with clay and you know, you know,
- 20:36different mixed medias, that type of thing.
- 20:38And you know, even using the two-part epoxy clay with
- 20:41customizing figures. So I was big into the Marvel
- 20:44Ledgers customization and it wasn't until, you know, the 3D
- 20:47printed technology started becoming more affordable that I
- 20:50saw a means to, you know, consistently reproduce things
- 20:54that I like to make and to share with my friends too.
- 20:57So Fast forward, you know, it's where I am now, just cranking
- 21:01out these parts and designing, sculpting, printing, painting,
- 21:08assembling, breaking most times. So you know, it's, it's, it's
- 21:13been quite the journey. But I feel like being able to
- 21:17make the intangible ideas in your mind tangible, that is a
- 21:23blessing. That is something that I wish
- 21:26everyone could experience, at least in some capacity, for
- 21:31sure, so fair. And your ideas are often quite
- 21:34big, as, as we've seen, whether it be your weapons or your
- 21:38diabils or your, you know, vehicles you built, you know,
- 21:42for last regions Khan, you had a catapult.
- 21:45The catapult You were firing goblins across the Yeah with
- 21:50Anthony. They come in this year, Steph,
- 21:52because I didn't see any of the goblins get shot.
- 21:54So. Well, the the the goblins are on
- 21:57a hiatus from operating though, so we'll make some human sized
- 22:01catapults for the show this year a bit more manageable in size.
- 22:06The goblins have had enough, you know, they didn't read the
- 22:08instruction manuals and they got hurt, so.
- 22:11There you go, Rick Stone. When somebody comes across to
- 22:14the table and doesn't buy something, you can just pop them
- 22:16in Steph Goblin and shoot or catapult and shoot them across.
- 22:20Shoot through the door. Yeah, I'm going to shoot marvels
- 22:23this time. Oh, that could be it could be
- 22:29fun. I'm sorry.
- 22:30Well, every, every villain in the Marvel film is British,
- 22:33isn't he? So I've got to live up to that
- 22:34reputation. Well, you guys make it look
- 22:37good. You sound great.
- 22:39Very imposing. It's, it's a, it's, it's
- 22:43somewhat of a compliment, I think, formative opponents.
- 22:46Everyone loves the villains, you know.
- 22:48Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's going to be a, a
- 22:52pretty good spread. Cosmic I, I, I haven't shown
- 22:57enough love since it's been released.
- 22:59So I wanted to kind of bring some emphasis to that to the
- 23:03show this year. Mythic will always be #1 in my
- 23:06heart, but Cosmic is damn cool. So definitely wanted to kind of
- 23:10provide some additional wares for the the Cosmic enthusiast.
- 23:16Yes, indeed. Well, we have one of the main
- 23:18ones here up above you there on the screen.
- 23:23Yeah, I will be. Yeah, we're going to see 11 of
- 23:27yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go.
- 23:30Look at that cosmic speeder, actually.
- 23:32Totally be yeah, I'll be nicking one of them before.
- 23:35That's so cool. So.
- 23:36That's basically what do you call it, Steph?
- 23:38It's like a speeder, kind of. It's the.
- 23:41Cosmic Velocopod. Velocopod there.
- 23:44You go, it just sounds cool and it rolls off the tongue pretty
- 23:48nicely. Is that all resin?
- 23:50This is actually PLA. Oh, right.
- 23:53So this is solid. So the weapons are yeah, the
- 23:58weapons are resin. He's.
- 23:59Actually the wall plug in. And they'll be additional weapon
- 24:03types at at the show just for this prototype.
- 24:06I just left the stock blaster, but you'll have some some, you
- 24:10know, big cannons to swap out with.
- 24:13So additionally, there'll be a, a flame tail that's illuminated
- 24:18coming out of here and on the bottom it's there's a hole that
- 24:24I'm going to put a, a translucent cylinder as a stand
- 24:30so you can have the hovering effect, but what it will also
- 24:33be, it'll be illuminated. So the instrument panel inside
- 24:37will illuminate as well. So when you have your rider
- 24:41sitting, there'll be a faint glow kind of bouncing off the
- 24:45the chest. Oh, that's awesome.
- 24:49For the handles, instead of making traditional handles, I
- 24:54just made some portholes. Just stick the hands in there.
- 24:58That way you don't have to worry about different size characters
- 25:02dealing with grips and things of that nature, You know, just
- 25:05stick the hands in there. It'll be all right, but solid.
- 25:10Yeah, So that because it's PLA then on the main body, it's a
- 25:14little bit more sturdy for, you know for for kind of messing
- 25:19around with and. Absolutely.
- 25:21I can't tell you how many times I've dropped this.
- 25:23Yeah, my pinky pinky toe is screaming right now, but it's
- 25:30it's it's, it's always it's it's a good hook of plastic.
- 25:34Nice. You don't have to worry about
- 25:35breakage or anything like that. It's pretty reliable.
- 25:38Yeah. And then it's like transporting
- 25:40back across the Atlantic, boys. How about that?
- 25:42Exactly, I was going to say judging by miles.
- 25:45Judging by Miles face, I think he's already checking how much
- 25:47an extra bag is. I can get ten of those in an
- 25:51extra bag. Is it worth the cost?
- 25:53Yeah, I can do that. So listeners, when you come to
- 25:55our table and we're all just looking over at, you know, we're
- 25:58all just reached over across the table at Steph.
- 26:00So you'll you'll know why because we're just all cool
- 26:03different stuff there. Yeah.
- 26:05So this is, we have a couple of pictures that we have just to
- 26:09go. So this is the, the kind of, I
- 26:11guess, design for the for the pod.
- 26:13So this is you did this yourself.
- 26:17Yes, yes. So I'm a I'm a one man show,
- 26:19Yeah. He's a sign you're a Jack of all
- 26:21trades, aren't you? Yeah, which is why it kind of
- 26:24takes me so long to do things and I'm I'm literally at the at
- 26:26every step of the process. So at the helm.
- 26:29So. But yeah, this is something that
- 26:31I actually freestyled. I had no idea how I wanted it to
- 26:34look. I just sat in my my chair and
- 26:37I'm like, I'm going to make believe I'm a spaceship.
- 26:40And I just started kind of maneuvering around in place and
- 26:44making the, the the whizzing sounds and the laser shots.
- 26:46And it kind of just came to me like that.
- 26:49I drew every inspiration from Canada's bike in the, the
- 26:56Japanese film Akita. He had this very futuristic
- 27:01bike. And I'm like, wow, that's pretty
- 27:02cool. So I took some panel elements
- 27:04from that and I did the design on the side and I thought about,
- 27:09you know, if I was on a hover bike, what, what amenities would
- 27:14I expect? You know, so I put like a little
- 27:16some vents on the, the seat. AC can never hurt anybody when
- 27:21you're, when you're flying that fast or heating for that matter.
- 27:24So I, I just try to make it, you know, look cool and seem
- 27:27somewhat functional as a practical, you know, hovercraft.
- 27:31I. Thought you were going to say
- 27:34cup holders there for a second Steph.
- 27:36Well, what would I want on our cup holders?
- 27:39There is a space 'cause you're old Max on the inside, so.
- 27:44Yeah, for me, this looks like something that's like we could
- 27:47realistically get down the line in cosmic in terms of if there
- 27:50were ever going to do vehicles this this type of one man
- 27:54piloted the one man one woman piloted thing is is something
- 27:59very realistic that you could actually see being made.
- 28:02You know, we all have dreams of like a massive spaceship place
- 28:06it, it's going to cost $500,000. But you know, for me, I like
- 28:11these type of things because yeah, you can just put a couple
- 28:13of maybe you have to put a couple of characters on them,
- 28:16make a nice little display for customizing they're
- 28:20realistically big or you know, because when you have, you know,
- 28:24if somebody gets the, you know, if they, if they do the massive
- 28:27dragon. And then of course, what's 1
- 28:29crazy person is going to try and customize a paint on something
- 28:33that big is it's going. To be nuts.
- 28:37A lot of work I, I kind of want to make things really bombastic
- 28:42and really large, but I, I remember that, you know, we
- 28:45collect a lot, we have a lot of figures the big stuff is nice,
- 28:50but we'll, is this something practical that you put on your
- 28:52shelf? And so I ended up downsizing
- 28:54this considerably. This was actually much bigger, I
- 28:58want to say maybe 50% bigger than it is now.
- 29:02And I just trimmed it down, try to make it more practical.
- 29:06And it was at that point I came up with the name too.
- 29:10You know, it's more like a pod, something very small, part of
- 29:13something possibly bigger, maybe a bigger vehicle.
- 29:16But it's your, it's your little skiff when you're out in outer
- 29:21space that you can take advantage of.
- 29:22It's a good because look at looking at that, you can get a
- 29:24second person on the back if you want to a second character,
- 29:27can't you? Yeah, comfortably.
- 29:28So you could, you know, be a getaway vehicle for, you know,
- 29:31a. Couple of genius sorts and
- 29:33especially if they do down the line, if they do your Little
- 29:36Dream small alien 3 pack or something, you know you can put
- 29:39one or two of them on the back rich.
- 29:41Oh yeah, you get half a dozen of those on easy Little.
- 29:43Sidekick on the back, you know? Yeah, yeah.
- 29:46Oh, if they ever do the tiny alien Steph, you'll need to put
- 29:49little seats on the gun. So the aliens can be.
- 29:52Sat there firing the guns. That would be awful, yeah.
- 29:58Yeah, put us down for three of these.
- 30:02Put us down for three of the pods.
- 30:04We're good for them, right? We got this awesome throne as
- 30:08well. Back to mythic here, I guess.
- 30:11I mean, it could also be cosmic, you know, depending on what you
- 30:15want, but classically Mythic and you've got these flame effects
- 30:21taken out here as well, which is what you look at.
- 30:25I'm going to put you make you big there so we can see you live
- 30:28doing it. There you go.
- 30:31That's pretty nice. Cool, Very, very cool.
- 30:34And is that the same? Is that the same material as the
- 30:36pod? Yep, PLA as well.
- 30:40Nice. I think that and, and again, it
- 30:42kind of goes back to the technology kind of catching up
- 30:45with our imaginations. PLA has had the reputation of
- 30:50leaving a lot of layer lines looking, you know, a bit wonky,
- 30:55but the new machines, the new, the new tech, they've
- 30:59significantly reduced that. And I was actually able to print
- 31:05this and just a couple layers of primer and some dry brushing and
- 31:11that was it. Wow.
- 31:13Amazing. So, I mean, I knew, you know,
- 31:16nearly anyone could anyone that has the, the hobby tools, even
- 31:20if you're not the world's best painter, you're going to be able
- 31:23to do a decent job at this. Absolutely.
- 31:25I'm, I'm actually horrible at painting.
- 31:26So if I can do it, anybody can do it.
- 31:30Yeah, you say you're, you're not that bad, Steph, you know, but I
- 31:34guess when you do, when you, when you do all these things,
- 31:37you know, painting takes a long time.
- 31:39So you, I think you're one of these painters that knows the
- 31:43best way to do something quickly and that it still looks good.
- 31:48And that's what you need to do. Yeah.
- 31:53Yeah. You know, you want to show off
- 31:54your stuff. And yeah, it's better to show
- 31:56off a painted version, of course, I think gives people a
- 32:00better idea of it. So that's that's really cool.
- 32:03I have heard a good few people actually that, you know, in the
- 32:06do the printing like you and all that have say that they've
- 32:09started to dabble within this FDM printers is not what they're
- 32:13called. Yep.
- 32:15And and that yeah, that they are getting much better for that
- 32:19kind of stuff. So it seems to be something that
- 32:23we'll probably see more of as we go along in the next year or
- 32:25two. Absolutely.
- 32:27And what it what it does is it allows the creators to make
- 32:31things that a resin build plate wouldn't be able to support.
- 32:36So vehicles, bigger statues, structural parts, you know, now
- 32:41we're breaking barriers here as far as what we can actually make
- 32:44and actually look good. So you're going to see a lot of,
- 32:47you're going to see a lot of Thrones coming soon, good
- 32:53statues and and you know, more vehicles, of course.
- 32:57Yeah, yeah, because as well with those, with the kind of very
- 33:01symmetrical kind of, you know, stuff, the kind of like things
- 33:06like tables, you know, Thrones, even spaceships with resin, you,
- 33:12you know, you're going to eventually have some support
- 33:13marks maybe on some of those depending.
- 33:15On Yeah. Yeah.
- 33:17And that even even if it's really good print, there's
- 33:20always going to be one or two and then it hurts.
- 33:23You can't, you can't fill them up.
- 33:24But it's it, it is quite tricky. So it's nice to not have that
- 33:28problem. Like, so if you'll notice, the
- 33:30back of the throne is really, really smooth.
- 33:32So yeah, that's how I actually printed.
- 33:34So it was printed face down just like this?
- 33:37Yeah. Layered up, no supports, one
- 33:40shot. Wham, bam.
- 33:42Thank you, ma'am. All right, so.
- 33:46I love that style too. I mean, we say about Cosmic, I
- 33:49could see the is it the Wasteland Warlord or wherever it
- 33:51is they're using out in Knox Crew Book 2, you can see when
- 33:54that character's written Book 3 sitting on something like this.
- 33:56Can you a little bit sort of lower tech and that sort of
- 33:58stuff? Yeah, I mean, sort of.
- 34:01Jokes about to Jeff's Steph, sort of jokes a bit about there
- 34:05being, you know, lots of Thrones, but let's be there is
- 34:09room for Thrones for every faction, essentially styles of
- 34:13Thrones for every faction. So that's room for a lot of
- 34:17Thrones out there. But yeah, yeah.
- 34:20Everyone wants to take a seat every once in a while.
- 34:22Rest your wary legs. That type of deal.
- 34:26Sure is. Here's the catapult, the famous
- 34:29catapult we talked about. So these were sold last year or?
- 34:36Yes, like more a brother and sister pair came and swiped them
- 34:39up for reasons unknown. I don't know if they're, you
- 34:42know, at war with each other, but.
- 34:46Just having family battle down the corridors.
- 34:48Yeah, driving their parents crazy, I would imagine.
- 34:51But yeah. So this year's Thrones will
- 34:54actually be about 50% smaller. Yeah.
- 34:59Only so that begins. Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
- 35:03I'm. I'm.
- 35:03Yeah, no problem. But yeah, the, the catapults,
- 35:05yeah, they'll be 50% smaller, the kind of support, easy
- 35:10transport facilitation on the shelves because I and I made
- 35:13these out of real wood too, so they were really heavy.
- 35:16Wow. That's cool.
- 35:19Yeah. So definitely head head over if
- 35:22you want to see a bit of catapult fun and behind you
- 35:26there you were telling us these are going to be castle Thrones
- 35:29or castle towers. Sorry these these long.
- 35:31Yeah, these things here, these massive tubes, let me grab them.
- 35:36They're. About.
- 35:40Oh wow. They're bigger than Steph.
- 35:43Yeah. This is near near far away thing
- 35:47here. Yeah.
- 35:48So this is actually a concrete pouring tubes, the columns.
- 35:54I didn't want to make a, you know, a boxy castle like I've
- 35:57had in the past. I wanted to make something very,
- 36:00yeah, very elegant looking, very streamlined, smooth.
- 36:03So best way to do that is to get something cylindrical.
- 36:07And I picked these up at Home Depot and I was like, man,
- 36:12imagine if I could get a, a castle tower that big.
- 36:14So challenge was or how I'm going to do the bricks.
- 36:17He goes like, I got to cut them out individually.
- 36:19So I have my homework. So you're going to be you're
- 36:24going to be sticking, sticking bricks to that.
- 36:26Whoa, I'm. Telling you that's that's.
- 36:28Some work. Call me to get the kids to work,
- 36:32Steph. Yeah, right.
- 36:36So that's that Castle there will be replaced with a bigger one.
- 36:40Yeah, yeah, I got to retire that old castle.
- 36:42That one is poof. That one's pushing 10 years now.
- 36:46Wow, still looks good. Yeah.
- 36:49Hey guys, I've, I've suddenly thought on the plus side, we can
- 36:51say if you're looking for the Eurolegions table, we're the one
- 36:53next to the giant castle. Yeah, exactly.
- 36:57You'll be able to see us from any point on the floor.
- 36:59We're the next to the giant castle.
- 37:00Yeah, we've brought it over from Europe and just plopped it on
- 37:03it's brick by brick. There's also a really special
- 37:07reason why I'm choosing such a high tower.
- 37:11Yeah. Without going into too much
- 37:14detail, because this is like one of the bigger surprises that I'm
- 37:16bringing to Legions Come, but a larger object will be perched on
- 37:25one of these towers. Oh, heard it here. 1st, A
- 37:29really, really large object. Really, really large, yeah.
- 37:36My God, we're surrounded here, Rich, we're going to be
- 37:38surrounded by. Yeah.
- 37:41I have to make it. It shows my how my brain works.
- 37:43And you said a really large object in a tall tower.
- 37:45I had just a massively overweight Rapunzel, but I'm
- 37:48guessing it's not going to be. That would be a good one that
- 37:51that would actually be hilarious.
- 37:53That would be good, yeah. Tease it and then it's that.
- 37:56Yeah, an ogre Queen Rapunzel. Yes.
- 37:59Yeah. Yeah, that'd be good, yeah.
- 38:01Tell you what, there'd be people that would be into that.
- 38:04Yeah, that'd be pretty awesome. If time permits, I might
- 38:07actually do that. That's real.
- 38:11This is how the this is how the best ideas start, huh?
- 38:16Right. You've got these awesome flame
- 38:18swords as well and these you didn't have these last year.
- 38:23Is that right? These are These are.
- 38:24From these came after legions, kind of.
- 38:27They were part of the toy Con show that I did.
- 38:30That's right. That was actually the first
- 38:32version with the dragon on the on the guard.
- 38:38I just had this idea for a a sword based off of worm
- 38:44dynamics. Just a real the blade.
- 38:48The blade is complete flame and you know, you just have the the
- 38:51dragon design on the handle. Since then, I've kind of made
- 38:56like a version 2, but kind of based off of basic sword that I
- 39:01have also a little bit easier to wield for the two point O's
- 39:10because that other sword was massive.
- 39:11So the one point O's to handle it, but the two point O's kind
- 39:14of fall short. So this one, it's pretty
- 39:16universal as far as the body types that can handle it.
- 39:21And just to show you the the versatility, I got this joy toy
- 39:26Space Marine, this Blood Angel, and he's wielding the red
- 39:29version. Oh, that's nice.
- 39:32And as you can see, it's the weight is perfect, it doesn't
- 39:36over overcome the shoulder joints and it's a bit more
- 39:40practical. So I'll have these in a couple
- 39:42of different colors for the show and later on I'll offer them in
- 39:47a multi pack like I did with the magic effects.
- 39:50Yeah, the magic effects we have here as well, these are great
- 39:54for the Pox's wave figures to mix it up there with your with
- 39:58your legions magic effects. Yeah, in a bunch of different
- 40:02colors as well. So this is a just a specific
- 40:06type of colored resin, is that right?
- 40:09Yeah, yeah. So I did it.
- 40:10I did each one in a different color.
- 40:12Yeah. You can also do use dyes with
- 40:16clear resin, but I found that you know I can save some steps
- 40:21by just buying the actual color and offering those.
- 40:24So if you were, if they were dyeing the resin, you'd actually
- 40:27put the dye in the in the tray in the printer and mix it there
- 40:31and then? Yeah.
- 40:32OK, gotcha. But I found, you know, I'm a I'm
- 40:38not a creature of habit. So I, I'm very random.
- 40:42I'm very erratic sometimes. So I would almost never get the
- 40:46same color twice. Yeah.
- 40:48Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you wouldn't be there at
- 40:50the, you know, 2 drops this time.
- 40:52Oh, but now I have an extra 5. 100.
- 40:54Nails of resident or whatever, Yeah.
- 40:57The only thing I ever get right is the actual like ratio mixes
- 41:00is because I can't mess that up. But otherwise, you know, I'll
- 41:04leave the colour to the to the pros and just buy that colours.
- 41:08Already. Yeah, I'm, I'm a bit like that
- 41:10with painting sometimes with the, you know, the mixes, unless
- 41:13it's really, you know, matching a specific figure.
- 41:17It's it's I'm, I'm very much. What did I do the last time?
- 41:20Crap, I should have wrote that down.
- 41:22Yeah. You know, even to get a
- 41:23consistent Gray, I'm like, well, how many parts white did I use?
- 41:26How many parts black? Let me add a little bit more
- 41:29black in it. Oh, now it's all too dark and
- 41:31I'm out of white. So yeah, we're not being.
- 41:33Yeah, but it's fun. It's it's fun.
- 41:37That's creative. This I love as well.
- 41:41Oh yes, this is one of. My favorite Clear, sort of
- 41:44clear, kind of. It's an it's an acrylic.
- 41:48Kind of an effect. Yeah.
- 41:50And I, I just, I have this so cricket machine and I made the
- 41:56designs and transpose the designs onto your circle and the
- 42:00cricket just etches it right into the acrylic.
- 42:03And then what I do is I I bore a hole in the center about the
- 42:07same diameter as the thickest part of the one point O wrist so
- 42:14that you pop the hand off, pop this on.
- 42:17Looks like he's casting a room a magic.
- 42:20That's genius. That's genius.
- 42:22Really cool. Yeah.
- 42:24And. So is this is this the same
- 42:26technique that that guy that does the the cosmic things that
- 42:30look like this? Oh, can of beams.
- 42:32No, he uses he uses some printing technique, I'm not sure
- 42:35which, but he uses a printing technique with with certain.
- 42:41How do I say a lot of luminous luminescent colors.
- 42:44So yeah, when the light hits it, it looks just right.
- 42:49But this is a little bit different.
- 42:50So when I when I etch it, it, it comes out as a clear acrylic
- 42:54with white inscriptions. And depending on what light
- 42:57you're using in your photographs or whatever is ambient at the
- 43:00time, that's the color it's going to actually adopt.
- 43:03But that's quick. This is not actually the
- 43:05versatile. For for photographers, then they
- 43:07can really use it with multiple figures, the same one and have
- 43:12the different lighting. Absolutely.
- 43:14To match the. I did experiment with some
- 43:17translucent paints over this and they work but I feel like I want
- 43:22to leave it up to the to the customers what what colors they
- 43:26want to deal with. So I just leave it as a a
- 43:29neutral, clear and white so. Works for me.
- 43:34Is this something you'd be into rich for your figures or?
- 43:37Oh yeah, absolutely. I like all the spell effects and
- 43:40the the little accessories. We don't need to ask you, Mal.
- 43:43You love Translucent. Any any bits of transparent to
- 43:47come on it. Yeah, this is something I'd
- 43:52definitely be interested in picking up.
- 43:54Right. You got a bunch of heads as well
- 43:55here. And yes, yes.
- 43:58So these are the ones that I found on your insta.
- 44:02Are these the latest heads you have or?
- 44:05So a couple of them are relatively old, but actually
- 44:10never offered them in shop. I've only showed them, sold them
- 44:12at shows. But I kind of want to do a head
- 44:17spread for the show this time around.
- 44:19I feel like I've been neglecting that.
- 44:21I've been so focused on weapons of mass destruction.
- 44:24You know, heads are just as important.
- 44:27You know, it's, it's, it's part of the aesthetic.
- 44:32So talk us through the different characters here or what they
- 44:34are. Everybody's evil.
- 44:38Yeah. So yeah, yeah, I'm very, I'm
- 44:41very much into the, the, the dark fantasy aesthetic.
- 44:45Which is ironic because you're such a nice guy, you know?
- 44:48That's your. That's your Yang, dear Yang.
- 44:51Yes, yes. There's something about the
- 44:53villain that just they, they always have the best designs and
- 44:57the best equipment. You know, you look at
- 44:59Transformers, right? You know, Autobots and
- 45:01Decepticons, you know, rockets and and jets and and Megatron
- 45:09turns into a gun, you know, so. And then you got the Autobots.
- 45:12Yeah. Ambulance.
- 45:12Yeah, I'm threatened by this ambulance.
- 45:14Thanks. But.
- 45:18And the VW Beetle? Oh no, that's such a scary
- 45:21vehicle. Yeah, exactly.
- 45:23You know, but it's, it's something about that aesthetic.
- 45:25Very sharp edges, very pointy, very streamlined and very
- 45:30clandestine. I just find inspiration in a lot
- 45:34of those motifs and I kind of just come up with these.
- 45:39And then I think for the most part, they, they kind of reflect
- 45:42how I perceive symmetry and, and, and design and, and how
- 45:48things are structured. You know, everything needs a
- 45:50horn, need sharp pointy bits and everybody's starving.
- 45:56So they have their, their mad faces on.
- 45:58So it's, I know it, yeah. But I'm definitely.
- 46:05Which Which is your favorite one of these then?
- 46:08So my favorite is actually the the guy on the bottom right with
- 46:17the. With the kind of big, it's
- 46:19almost like a sword sticking out of his helmet.
- 46:21Yeah, yeah, he's, he was actually, he's actually the
- 46:24newest one. It's it's very it's, it's the
- 46:29Duke helmet, like a dark Duke, very prominent in in stature and
- 46:35very flowy, but all the same has this evil air about him.
- 46:40And depending on the situation, you could swap him out to be a
- 46:43good guy too. But I I think it has a very
- 46:46arcane darkness about it. I love it and boys, what are
- 46:52your what's your favorite here, Rich?
- 46:54I was going to say I've sent you and Mal a picture each of the
- 46:57the the other bottom one, which Steph very kindly gifted me.
- 47:00I think it the Legions con 22 and I've had I painted up to go
- 47:04onto a Silverhorn sentry. So I've so I've.
- 47:08So I've turned it into a good guy.
- 47:10Yeah, that's the that's the overlord sculpt.
- 47:13He was the very first one I ever sculpted for Mythic legions.
- 47:17That's very cool. I know I think my favorite is
- 47:20probably the same one as staff's but the one directly above it as
- 47:23well with the face plate and no eyes.
- 47:25I love that look as well. That that 1 is probably my
- 47:29favorite as well. It's got.
- 47:32Kind of a. Vibe about it and I actually saw
- 47:35it that all that painted up to fit on the vulgas familias body
- 47:39would look really cool. Actually, I did one for Toycon
- 47:47last year, painted it up red, gave him a nice little shield.
- 47:51It's pretty, pretty nuts. Yeah, that would be cool.
- 47:56Yeah, even the clear, the clear red resin maybe as well would be
- 47:59a good option for him. That's nice.
- 48:01Talking about the Vargas 5, Yeah, my my favorite would be
- 48:05the one you picked as well, Steph, but followed closely by
- 48:08probably all of them. I mean, I could do Mal on this,
- 48:11but to pick the next favorite, it's the one kind of directly
- 48:15above him with the kind of faceplate helmet over that grill
- 48:19horns. Yeah.
- 48:21But yeah, I really like them. Yeah, that one with the
- 48:24faceplate. You know, the no I sort of thing
- 48:26Blaze has. Don't want to match the
- 48:28mistress. Oh.
- 48:29Cool. I'm in talks around that.
- 48:34Negotiations have been opened. Bids have.
- 48:36Been. Submitted blazes after some
- 48:39older Bombach sculpts, which I've got and painted stuff.
- 48:42Oh, that's kind of painted pieces.
- 48:44There'll be a bit of trading going on.
- 48:46Trading is good. Yeah, that's.
- 48:47That's a good way to to get to the further up in the queue.
- 48:51Yeah, right. Let's move along here a little
- 48:54bit. So we got weapons then, Steph,
- 48:57which you have you're kind of most famous for, or that was
- 48:59where I first heard of you selling through Legion's shop, I
- 49:02think originally. Yeah, you know.
- 49:05With weapons. RIP Legion Shop.
- 49:08That was such a great time. You know, labor of love too,
- 49:11getting those pieces out. We were experiencing the the
- 49:15creative boom that was offset by COVID, so a lot of folks were
- 49:21digging into their collections. Well, hey, you know, I need some
- 49:23accessories. So, you know, where there's a
- 49:24demand someone will supply. So I've started cranking out
- 49:27some some designs and some weapons for the legions.
- 49:31Not this is not a knock against, you know, the, the stock weapons
- 49:34that come with what we have now, but a little variation never
- 49:37hurt anybody. So I tried to, yeah, make things
- 49:40as bombastic as as possible, you know, try to give the give folks
- 49:43that things that they never, you know, you know, had before for
- 49:46legions. So that was the genesis of it
- 49:49all. But this set right here is since
- 49:51been retired. I actually may bring back the
- 49:55the shield. I really like that shield.
- 49:57It's really cool. It's kind of, it's like an eye
- 49:59in the middle of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 50:02It's like. A definitely bring that back
- 50:06with an eye in the middle. Oh yeah, you've got a sale from
- 50:08me if you bring it back. One guaranteed sale, two
- 50:13guaranteed sales, because I'll get it too and you've got this.
- 50:16So on the horse here with this massive big jousting spike and
- 50:20another. That was such a dangerous
- 50:22weapon. I don't think I'll bring that
- 50:24one back. It's so pointy and so sharp.
- 50:28I, I had scabs all over my hands just handling these things.
- 50:32I think I made, I might have made fifty sets of this.
- 50:37There's a sword and Shields. Oh, Lance and Shield set.
- 50:40I'm a big fan of doing things in in sets.
- 50:43Just adds to the yeah, but I had such a a a gnarly time handling
- 50:50these things. I'm like, somebody's going to
- 50:52get hurt and I don't want blood. I have blood on my hands
- 50:55already, but I don't want somebody else's blood on my
- 50:57heads. Yeah, has more material.
- 50:59Wouldn't wouldn't have released this.
- 51:02Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
- 51:04A lot. Of the floppy.
- 51:06Plastic. Finally we have here 2 point O
- 51:09knight holding this double sided axe.
- 51:13Another cool one. Yeah, I'm, I'm a big fan of just
- 51:16using more than just plastic. I like using wood and metal and,
- 51:21you know, try to introduce different, you know, properties
- 51:24to the stuff that we collect and how we display them.
- 51:26So instead of printing out, you know, you know, a 5 inch long
- 51:33Lance or spear, I'll get some wooden dowels in there.
- 51:36Adds a bit of authenticity to the handles that you might see
- 51:40elsewhere and that it's lightweight, it's less expensive
- 51:44and it, it's quicker for me to make something like this as
- 51:47opposed to printing an entire shaft and, and have it snap on
- 51:51you or bend OR at least with this, it's plug and play.
- 51:55You can pop the the wooden dowel out, maybe put on a shorter
- 52:00handle. Adds to the the variation of it
- 52:04too, so. Yeah, those lungs and resin are,
- 52:08are always a bit, they're a bit scary.
- 52:11The the resin is getting better and very good.
- 52:15Well, that's what we had to talk through Boys view.
- 52:18Any any more things you want to bring up with Steph apart from
- 52:21how excited we are to hang out in November?
- 52:24Very excited to be hanging out with him.
- 52:28I'm excited. How was your?
- 52:29How was your How's your boy Day and Steph as well?
- 52:31He's doing great. He he's the reason why I'm sick.
- 52:33Wouldn't you know he bought all those daycare cooties?
- 52:36Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 52:38yeah. Oh yeah, we've had that here as
- 52:40well since school started. So they're I.
- 52:42Feel laughed like a little bit frog in my throat like Oh no I
- 52:46have AI got the show this weekend.
- 52:48I cannot lose my voice right now.
- 52:49So I've been chugging OJ and and pop syrup and lozenges.
- 52:57You you, you got to the end of it.
- 52:59Don't worry about it. And the best thing is you get
- 53:03that out of the way for legions con and we'll all be having a
- 53:07great time. Yeah, you're, are you going to
- 53:10intern? No, no intern for me.
- 53:13I always lose the lottery, but that's OK, I'd rather someone
- 53:16else experience it. I think for the most part
- 53:20there's nothing I don't want to take away from the experience,
- 53:22but I don't think there's anything at Intern that I won't
- 53:27be able to capitalize on during the show.
- 53:29Gotcha. Yeah, all the people are there.
- 53:32All the figures are there. I think as far as processes,
- 53:37somebody who's new to allegiance would benefit the most from
- 53:42intern. Yeah, for sure.
- 53:43You're not too far away so you could always just turn up and
- 53:46knock on the door. I'm sure they'd let.
- 53:47You just a random. Day, you know.
- 53:49Like knocking on the door. Corn boys just like staring at
- 53:52me. Like who is this guy?
- 53:52Who is this weird? Yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't do
- 53:58that. They wouldn't do that to you.
- 54:01Very good. Thanks, Steph.
- 54:02That was amazing. Yep.
- 54:03Thank you. Yeah.
- 54:04Thank you guys for having that kid.
- 54:05Can't wait to see my bunkmates once more.
- 54:09Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
- 54:11Yeah. Customs.
- 54:12Here we go. Yeah, we'll bring you some
- 54:14European chocolate, some British chocolate.
- 54:17Please, you know I'm a sucker for those.
- 54:19Oh my gosh man, that'll. Be all over our table.
- 54:23Yeah, cheers, Steph. Cheers, John.
- 54:25Chills mouth. Cheers.
- 54:27Take care. We have Matt Stein, table mate
- 54:35of Anthony House Seal. He's a table #1.
- 54:38Matt, do you ever think you're going to make table #1?
- 54:41No, no, I, I never, you know, I was shooting for like somewhere
- 54:44between table 50 and 60. Yeah, to get number one was it
- 54:47was really great. I.
- 54:49Remember last year when we had a table that was we were in the
- 54:53main room, which was already like, yes, you know, we were
- 54:56lucky we got in on time for that.
- 54:59So I was quite happy with that. So to be #1 is it's pretty cool
- 55:04and you are, is it going to be half and half with Anthony or
- 55:08how are you going to break it up?
- 55:10Yeah, I think minimum I'll have half a table.
- 55:13I'm actually I bought some 3 tiered shelf to put on my table
- 55:17so I can have some more display room.
- 55:21You, you send me locals there of the luxury of of that kind of
- 55:25infrastructure, which I'm just happy to get my my bits over.
- 55:29We've covered by. Yeah, it's why I drive.
- 55:32I mean, it's a lot. It's a 13 hour drive for me, but
- 55:35I'd rather be able to bring everything I want and more
- 55:39importantly, bring everything back that I bought without
- 55:42having to worry about it. 13 hours.
- 55:44Wow. So that's how many miles is
- 55:46that? God, I feel like 809 hundred.
- 55:51It's like it's, it's up there, the way down.
- 55:54I go halfway sleep and then and go to the next half.
- 55:57But the Monday after I I get up at 5:00 in the morning and drive
- 56:00all the way home so I don't have to miss another day at work.
- 56:03That's crazy. And see, you see.
- 56:06So what do you do for work, Matt?
- 56:08Uh, I am a consultant, uh, for uh, we do custom software
- 56:14development. OK, so ITIT related, yeah.
- 56:18Yeah, everybody calls it IT. Stuff so you know if anyone I
- 56:21don't. Do printers.
- 56:22I don't do computer. Oh.
- 56:23No, printers are not IT. Printers are just nightmare fuel
- 56:26as far as I'm concerned. As a former IT person and Mal I
- 56:29think is the current one as well.
- 56:30So yeah, yeah, IT support. I just sit here all day.
- 56:34I work from home. Oh, you work from home?
- 56:35That's good. Yeah, so this is my office.
- 56:37Well, what an office is, if you can see this on the YouTube, you
- 56:40see Matt is he's got a nice little display behind it got.
- 56:44My attorney set up. There is that the new one or?
- 56:49Yeah, Oh yeah, I could afford the old.
- 56:50I make a pair. No, no new one.
- 56:52Yeah, the, the, the new one is, is rough enough on price, never
- 56:55mind the the old one, but nice that it was possible to get that
- 57:00because it's really a unique piece.
- 57:02And I'm not sure, I'm not sure many of us remember that from
- 57:05our childhood. I.
- 57:07I didn't know it existed until I saw it in Big the movie Big
- 57:11because it was on a poster in the background.
- 57:12I'm like, what is that thing? Yeah, I never, I never heard of
- 57:18it. I I knew about the laser
- 57:19figures, but that was the last thing I kind of knew about them
- 57:22because I actually had them. I think I've mentioned this
- 57:25before, but like long gone, you know, but I remember having them
- 57:28because I remember the the light up feature and when I got the
- 57:32classics ones I was like, these are.
- 57:37But yeah, now can you drive that far in in the UK in one line
- 57:40without having to do a? Circle.
- 57:42I don't think so. Or at least get to the end of
- 57:46the country from where I am at least.
- 57:48Yeah, I know. So I'm, I'm pretty much, you
- 57:50know, we're in Luxembourg here, but it's pretty much the top of
- 57:52France and the bottom of Belgium.
- 57:55And I think if I took off down South from here, I'd get well
- 57:58into Spain, but that far I'd go all the way through France.
- 58:02So that's quite a drive. So, you know, while it's kind of
- 58:06cool that you can pack up your car, it's, it's not without
- 58:08effort and you're, you're driving solo as well or.
- 58:11Yeah, yeah, I just put an audio book on and yeah, listen to some
- 58:15fantasy books and just get my drive going.
- 58:17Yeah, I drove over to the guys last year in the UK.
- 58:19It was over now. It was a bit broken up because I
- 58:21had to go in the Channel Tunnel on the train thing, but it was
- 58:25probably 4 hours and 4 hours. So yeah, that's what I do.
- 58:28So I have audio books, podcasts, whatever.
- 58:31And then I try and if it, if it's if I don't have a good
- 58:34audio book kind of ready, I try and kind of not listen to
- 58:37podcasts a few days before I go. Build them up, yeah.
- 58:41That's what I'm going to be doing for the flight over to to
- 58:43Legions Con for sure. Well, I mean, there's so many
- 58:46Legions podcasts now. You, yeah, you skip a week.
- 58:49You're good for both trips. It's hard to keep up, you know?
- 58:51I'm, I already struggle and because of our show and, you
- 58:56know, we have to obviously put it together and like a couple of
- 59:00people that we've had on are going to have on have been on
- 59:02other shows. And of course they want to watch
- 59:04and see what they said on those shows so that it's not just a
- 59:06total repetition. But it can be hard to do it, you
- 59:10know? Yeah, yeah.
- 59:12I think between the three of us, we manage, man.
- 59:15We've struggle 3. And so Matt, how did you get
- 59:21into Legions then firstly and then we'll get to the the
- 59:23customizing? Well, it's funny because like
- 59:27I've known a couple, like I've known corn Boy and George way,
- 59:32way back in the day. Like I've knew back in the MO
- 59:3522000 X days with with corn boy and then I knew George way back
- 59:41in the day from Glios stuff because I used to work on a
- 59:44Glios line. But yeah, you, you.
- 59:49Had passed in the toy industry then.
- 59:51Oh yeah, yeah, I I did. There was a, it's a line called
- 59:55Battle Tribes, little 3/3 inch kind of he man looking ones.
- 59:59I did a lot of the design work on those and photo work form.
- 1:00:02I wonder he was he was quick in the because my other question
- 1:00:06was you got pretty good pretty quick at the customizing.
- 1:00:09But now that answers some of that.
- 1:00:11Yeah, I could. I well, I still get a little
- 1:00:12obsessive when I do things so in the club, but I was all then on
- 1:00:19like the fantastic exclusive stuff back to the, you know, the
- 1:00:23cows and the goth tropolis stuff.
- 1:00:27And then I had the great divorce of 2007 and had to sell all that
- 1:00:29stuff. I was going to do the
- 1:00:33Kickstarter for Mythic Legions, but a friend talked me out of it
- 1:00:36because he says it's just a lot of money.
- 1:00:37And they were, that was the time when they were throwing in
- 1:00:39figure after figure after figure.
- 1:00:41And I'm like, that's just a lot. And so I passed on it and then I
- 1:00:46kind of played in, you know, every power con, I would grab
- 1:00:49the Motu one just to just to get a taste.
- 1:00:52And then I kind of went cold Turkey on it.
- 1:00:55And then it wasn't until, and I'll try to not make it too
- 1:00:58down. I lost my mother just over two
- 1:01:01years ago. And Christmas time was a big
- 1:01:04thing for us. I mean, I even got a Christmas
- 1:01:06tattoo. Oh yeah, she used to always say.
- 1:01:09Yeah, she always. Say Merry Christmas to me when
- 1:01:11she was happy. So that's what it says.
- 1:01:13OK. So any time of the year.
- 1:01:15Yeah, it didn't matter what time of year or should you say Merry
- 1:01:17Christmas to me. And the Father Christmas figure
- 1:01:22came out and I was like, my friends were like, you have to
- 1:01:26get it. Like it was.
- 1:01:27It was that Christmas after she'd already.
- 1:01:29She just passed in September. And I'm like, yeah, I got to get
- 1:01:31it. And I got it and I was like, OK,
- 1:01:35this is dangerous. Like I I got got.
- 1:01:37And then I was out in January seeing my dad for Christmas time
- 1:01:41and there's a retailer out, the Four Horsemen retailer, Top Dog
- 1:01:45Comics out there, and they had some of the vampire stuff.
- 1:01:50And I'm like, I'll just get one or two.
- 1:01:52And and then we went back again. Then I'm like, I'm just going to
- 1:01:55do vampire and then the next thing you know, like that's what
- 1:01:58all all that back there is legions.
- 1:01:59So it didn't work. Good.
- 1:02:01Yeah, good. Good few shows.
- 1:02:04Yeah, yeah, I went a little nuts.
- 1:02:06But you know, you found yourself in a pretty cool community, so
- 1:02:08you know it's. Been one of the biggest selling
- 1:02:12features of the line for me is is just the I've made a lot of
- 1:02:16friends over the past two years, so it's been great.
- 1:02:20For sure. And obviously you got to know
- 1:02:21Anthony pretty well who you're sharing a table with.
- 1:02:23He's he's been a pillar of the community as we know and
- 1:02:27obviously welcomed you in with open arms.
- 1:02:31Yeah, we, we shared dwarf love. So, and that's really what
- 1:02:35kicked me off into the customizing was there were no,
- 1:02:37once I was getting in the line and trying to track down and I
- 1:02:39realized there were certain older figures I just couldn't
- 1:02:41afford, even though I spent more than I wanted to on some I like
- 1:02:45once you get into two 3-4, I'm like, I can't do that.
- 1:02:48I just. And so I, I came across some of
- 1:02:53Jeremy videos at, at mythic customs just, you know, painting
- 1:02:57the dots and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:02:59And so again, I was dealing with, with my mother's law or
- 1:03:04loss of my mother. And so I just found something to
- 1:03:07put my energy into. And so February of 23, it was
- 1:03:12the first time I picked up a paintbrush and then I just
- 1:03:14didn't stop. So it's been just over 18 months
- 1:03:18now I've been paying. Pretty cool because we will have
- 1:03:21a look at your stuff and it's pretty cool.
- 1:03:23It did you you sold some last year's old because I know that
- 1:03:28rich. He he was the first one to buy
- 1:03:30one. I I put some up for sale online
- 1:03:36because I didn't really have a obviously I didn't have a table
- 1:03:38last year though. I put some in the King of the
- 1:03:41Mountains display. But they, you know, they get
- 1:03:43kind of lost in there just because there's so much that
- 1:03:46Anthony does with that. Plus I don't think anybody knew
- 1:03:49me from anybody at that point. But yeah, I, I because I
- 1:03:52realized I turned around, I had like 40 customs already done and
- 1:03:55I'm like, I can't keep all these like it's just too many.
- 1:03:59So I put some up for sale online.
- 1:04:01Richard was first one or any he he just did the bio like last
- 1:04:06week I think on the one that he bought for me.
- 1:04:07Oh. That's right.
- 1:04:08Yeah, because he's doing he's he's doing his little series of
- 1:04:11posts. Which I'm terrible at.
- 1:04:12Like what's your name? I'm like, I have no idea.
- 1:04:15Like he's metal dwarf too. I don't know.
- 1:04:19That's why we need people like Rich, you know, because yeah,
- 1:04:21he's he's a firstly big customs collector and that's part of his
- 1:04:25angle is OK, I'm not going to be a painter, but let's write a
- 1:04:28cool bio and. Yeah, and it flushes it out more
- 1:04:31and I just, I don't have that. I don't have that writing skill,
- 1:04:36but yeah, I I start selling a little bit more here and there
- 1:04:38because I never started it with the intent of selling.
- 1:04:41That's the best way though, because then you're you, you've
- 1:04:43no expectations and no, you just kind of go at it like how you
- 1:04:47want to. And I still don't do like a ton
- 1:04:50of like I've done some Commission work here and there,
- 1:04:53but it's mostly been very loose. Hey, I would like a female dwarf
- 1:04:57that kind of looks because what I don't, I don't want it to turn
- 1:04:59into a job per SE. Yeah, like I don't, I don't
- 1:05:02want, I don't want somebody sending me notes back.
- 1:05:04Like, yeah, I did that world once before.
- 1:05:06I don't. I don't want to do that again.
- 1:05:08Yeah, for sure. Like even like don't do
- 1:05:11commissions as such, but I've painted pieces for Rich and
- 1:05:14painted stuff, but like just parts heads and stuff.
- 1:05:17Yeah. And he's very freezing, free and
- 1:05:19easy for the most part. It's like, you know, OK, I
- 1:05:21wanted to match this figure or something, or I want this to be
- 1:05:24cosmic. Go nuts.
- 1:05:26That's the kind of that's very rarely that he's, he's extremely
- 1:05:31specific. And even if he is, he'll also
- 1:05:33take your feedback pretty easily.
- 1:05:35So I think that's the best I could imagine some of the
- 1:05:39nightmares of like if you're imagine the people customizing,
- 1:05:42say Mezco heads or even Legend stuff.
- 1:05:45And it has to be accurate to this version of Superman in this
- 1:05:48comic with this like whoa. And you know, I understand that
- 1:05:53obsession with the with characters with so much lore and
- 1:05:56kind of thing behind them. But as a as someone that would
- 1:06:00do Commission for it, that would be tough.
- 1:06:01And you'd have to be pretty pro, I would say, you know?
- 1:06:04Yeah, yeah. I mean that that's a whole
- 1:06:06different level of talent. Yeah.
- 1:06:10And I don't, I don't ever, I don't ever see me getting to
- 1:06:14that point, no. It has to be a hobby, I think,
- 1:06:16you know, and for me it's the same.
- 1:06:18And Legions Con is a great outlet to firstly to show off
- 1:06:21your stuff. And yet my goal with Legions Con
- 1:06:25would always be to fund that. I could do it next year, you
- 1:06:28know, to buy the stuff for next year.
- 1:06:30And if it also covers a bit of the flight or bit of the hotel,
- 1:06:35then brilliant. No, but we ain't getting rich
- 1:06:38off this. Sure, No, no, nobody make nobody
- 1:06:41really makes money at doing any, any any of us, even the greats
- 1:06:45like a mill and and Miller and like those guys aren't made.
- 1:06:50I mean, everybody has real jobs like this is this funds our
- 1:06:54hobby and it's it's it's part of the community and fun.
- 1:06:59Like if it wasn't fun I wouldn't do it.
- 1:07:01Yeah, for sure. I mean the the amount of time it
- 1:07:03takes to paint something to really high standard, no matter
- 1:07:06how good you are painting, there's a time element that's
- 1:07:09always there and you just can't get paid enough for that time
- 1:07:13compared. Yeah, there.
- 1:07:14And there's a threshold, right? Like there's a threshold that
- 1:07:16people are going to be with and some people can charge more than
- 1:07:18others because I mean, they've obviously they've earned it at
- 1:07:22this point with the work that they put out.
- 1:07:26Yeah, So for sure. Well, shall we take a little
- 1:07:29look at some of the stuff that you've sent us over that you're
- 1:07:32going to have and yeah. I don't remember exactly what I
- 1:07:34sent over. Let's.
- 1:07:36See, that's a little surprise for us.
- 1:07:37So first we I've put a couple of them on, on each slide so we can
- 1:07:40kind of. Straight away with the cool.
- 1:07:43Yeah, and I recognise this as Noah's the head, one of the
- 1:07:46heads Noah did with Jeremy Wilson.
- 1:07:48Yeah, when I when I saw that go up, I messed him.
- 1:07:50Like I need one, I need one. Like it's just nice to get some
- 1:07:57different people putting some good dwarf heads out there for
- 1:08:00sure. And then this one.
- 1:08:02Is on the right is Dirk. Dirk and Dwarf.
- 1:08:07I'm drawing a blank. Oh, Dwarf Lord is it?
- 1:08:11Yeah. Something like that.
- 1:08:12Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, and that's a Wolverine
- 1:08:15tribute, which is really cool. And you used also this, these
- 1:08:19daggers, they're legions parts, I guess, because no.
- 1:08:22Those are actually, there's a third party guy that makes stuff
- 1:08:26for different, you know, cane of beams.
- 1:08:28He makes all kinds of different effects and stuff.
- 1:08:30And these are metal claws that he made that fit into Marvel
- 1:08:34Legends. And so I just had to basically,
- 1:08:38you know, modify the hands to be able to glue the claws into the
- 1:08:41hands. Nice.
- 1:08:43And do you? So what's your process?
- 1:08:47Do you do everything by brush? Do you have?
- 1:08:50Yeah, I'll brush. Brush.
- 1:08:52Yeah. And yellow is a fun color.
- 1:08:54I Oh my God. So many layers, so many layers.
- 1:09:00It's a patience thing, isn't it? Yeah.
- 1:09:02And especially for for a tribute character like that, you have to
- 1:09:05kind of nail the color. Yeah, well and I did 2 yellow
- 1:09:09figures back-to-back and I about wanted to just jump off a bridge
- 1:09:12like it was. Who's so bad?
- 1:09:16Yeah, I love yellow is the color on the figure like so I'm always
- 1:09:20tempted to use it as well. But sometimes I have to think,
- 1:09:22OK, do I have the time and patience at this moment for
- 1:09:26this? And I love that you use the
- 1:09:28Poxus torso and this guy. Love that, that chest plate so
- 1:09:34much, like if I could get a million of those.
- 1:09:37I mean, I love all the pox of shoulders, the pox of soft
- 1:09:40goods, the pox's chest piece. Like I've used them every chance
- 1:09:43I get at this point. Yeah, he is one that, if he's on
- 1:09:46the Horsemen table at Legion's gun, could.
- 1:09:50Even though he's a deluxe, he's definitely worth picking.
- 1:09:52He's still worth, perhaps. You know, getting all those
- 1:09:54pieces out of it, yeah. For sure.
- 1:09:57And right, we have another tribute here in the Ram Man,
- 1:10:00which really like that. And that's it's Legion shop I
- 1:10:06think that had that upper body. Is it?
- 1:10:09Yeah, it was originally original Legion shop head, and then Lynn
- 1:10:14picked it up at Wolf. Wolf King, Yeah.
- 1:10:16Yeah, and he's modified it a little bit and I didn't even
- 1:10:18real because I painted the original 1 you when I first
- 1:10:21started because it had no eyes to paint.
- 1:10:23So it was like, and I didn't realize some of the changes that
- 1:10:28the, the original one had really bigger mustaches, like it was
- 1:10:33like, and so Lynn kind of lowered that profile down.
- 1:10:37So that was fun. And then I also put there's a
- 1:10:39magnet in his axe and on his back so his his axe can just
- 1:10:43stick. To his back love that yeah,
- 1:10:46yeah, I've done a couple of shield handles with the magnet
- 1:10:48and they work great once you get it on and.
- 1:10:53And is that what what's the is that the DND character from the
- 1:10:57Elkhorn from? Nope, Nope.
- 1:11:02That's a soft some. Just some soft good pants.
- 1:11:05Awesome, cool. And then you've got the sebadom
- 1:11:10head. I know here it's a is that
- 1:11:13Justin Johnson? I can't remember.
- 1:11:17I know I got it from Planetary which I'm going to miss so much.
- 1:11:22Oh yeah, we all are for sure. I mean, there's some of my
- 1:11:25favorite head scopes and a like their body, like I just love
- 1:11:29them. Yeah, I love them.
- 1:11:31I'm going to miss one. They're they're in this, they're
- 1:11:34in Spain. So yeah.
- 1:11:35So you can get the on this side of the world for once.
- 1:11:38You can get the good shipping too.
- 1:11:39And yeah, his portfolio is fantastic.
- 1:11:43And you get the big torso as well.
- 1:11:47That's also from him or yeah. And I'm using that torso to do a
- 1:11:52snowman and I've filed off the nipples and filled in the belly
- 1:11:58button, so it's kind of look really weird.
- 1:12:01There's nothing wrong with snowman nipples.
- 1:12:03I mean, I don't judge. Depend who's building the
- 1:12:07snowman. And yeah, painting White Mile.
- 1:12:10Good luck with that. Yeah.
- 1:12:13That's that's another fun one. Another fun one off.
- 1:12:16White sure. White.
- 1:12:17No. And these are the pox's shoulder
- 1:12:19pauldrons as well, so. And the pox is soft.
- 1:12:22Goods, Yeah, yeah, it's just a sweet actually painted one of
- 1:12:26these axes recently. So that's from Anthony, isn't it
- 1:12:29with the kind of is Ram head or something?
- 1:12:32It looks like a dragon skull. It's meant.
- 1:12:35To be like a little dragon. Yeah.
- 1:12:36Oh yeah, it could be. Yeah.
- 1:12:37Need to do a little closer, right?
- 1:12:40We have some female dwarfs here, so very cool you don't see that
- 1:12:45as much. Probably will see it more when
- 1:12:47we get the amazing Dwarf 2 pack. Which I still need to order more
- 1:12:51of those. I've only ordered like seven or
- 1:12:53eight of those and I need more. This is Leighton Three.
- 1:12:56I've only ordered 7 or 8 of that Figure A2 pack and I'm not sure
- 1:13:00I've enough. They're so good.
- 1:13:03They are, yeah. And just the the new parts you
- 1:13:06get there and let's see after allegiance gone this year, what
- 1:13:10they reveal, whether I I would be happy to see dwarf back to
- 1:13:14or, or a dwarf using some of those parts, maybe a single
- 1:13:18dwarf using a mix of of the two. I'm hoping for some version 2
- 1:13:22dwarfs. We need we need some of the old
- 1:13:23school guys, but. Yeah, that would be cool.
- 1:13:26Yeah. Umm, so these are I think, I
- 1:13:31guess they're custom torsos as well on this one.
- 1:13:34Yeah, the the silver 1 is like the head, the heads, the shield,
- 1:13:39the sword or Jason Rodriguez. And so is the the silver chest,
- 1:13:44the right chest. The red chest is mythic bits.
- 1:13:48It's nice. They're little.
- 1:13:50They're little inserts. Oh yeah, they go to go on the to
- 1:13:55go on the like the Bardric torso or valve torso, whatever.
- 1:13:59Very cool. And you got some soft goods
- 1:14:01there as well, some capes. Yep.
- 1:14:05And this mad guy here with these wings, where are they for that's
- 1:14:09is that a Mexico Batman? Yeah, it's the eh Gotham.
- 1:14:14By Gaslight, yeah. Yeah, and the best part about
- 1:14:17the and and Chris, I stole the idea from Chris from Mythic
- 1:14:19Bits. They plug right into the
- 1:14:21shoulder pawdrons, the balls. And so they can still, I mean, I
- 1:14:25wouldn't wrench on them, but they can still, you know, come
- 1:14:28in and out a little bit and obviously they're still
- 1:14:29articulated. So they're they're they're
- 1:14:32perfect. Like they just pop right in.
- 1:14:35Fantastic, fantastic. And again, I noticed the torso
- 1:14:40here, I think from Anthony. Yep, Anthony.
- 1:14:43And then there's he did a hot air balloon guy, which is where
- 1:14:48that head is from. And then I took the backpack and
- 1:14:51I, I kind of modified it to get the plug off of the balloon part
- 1:14:57and the propeller broke off of mine.
- 1:14:59So I modified it and put a magnet on it so you can actually
- 1:15:03spin the propeller on the back of them.
- 1:15:06And that's what the little handle goes back to the
- 1:15:09backpack. And so the shiny red button on
- 1:15:13there is, I saw down one of the cosmic plugs for the weapons and
- 1:15:20painted over the clear and then super glossed it so it looks,
- 1:15:23you know, like a little red shiny button.
- 1:15:25Oh that's very cool. Nice, so more use for the cosmic
- 1:15:30plugs? Put them everywhere.
- 1:15:32They're already everywhere, yeah.
- 1:15:34Yeah, it was. But I still save them.
- 1:15:36Everyone I open I still save. I don't know why but I do.
- 1:15:40I don't need them. Let's put in a pair of jeans in
- 1:15:42the wash of the day and empty in the pockets.
- 1:15:45And what was in there? Yeah, some cosmic plugs.
- 1:15:49Oh well, the new shield of that the new wing adapters aren't
- 1:15:54like for cosmics. Oh yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:56You can't build anything out of them.
- 1:15:58No, but they're very useful for connecting stuff, especially to
- 1:16:02cosmic right. We got a firstly this dwarf here
- 1:16:06on the left of our screen. Tell us about that one.
- 1:16:12So I found a guy on on eBay and, and a lot of people have I can't
- 1:16:16remember his his eBay store. A lot of people have found him
- 1:16:18now that makes he makes really, really good wired capes.
- 1:16:22It's a nice stick and he only sells them for like 12 or $13
- 1:16:25like they're you at, which is really cheap.
- 1:16:28And he'll also do custom colors. So I started talking to him a
- 1:16:32lot and I'm like, I would love one with a fur top on on the
- 1:16:34Cape. So he actually made a sample
- 1:16:37with this Cape with the fur all sewn on attached to it.
- 1:16:41And he's like, yeah, I'm not doing that again.
- 1:16:43He said it's just really hard. And so I wanted to build a whole
- 1:16:47custom around that Cape, which is where this guy came from.
- 1:16:51And I will never paint that head again, even though I love it
- 1:16:55because I had to paint those eyes through the eye.
- 1:16:57Slots. And it is, it is brutal.
- 1:17:01I do not like that at all. Yeah, just just whack a load of
- 1:17:04metallic and say, Oh yeah, it's just a, it's a see through
- 1:17:07shield. But I, I love like a lot of my
- 1:17:10stuff I'll paint like pieces that maybe aren't traditionally
- 1:17:14painted on stock legions, like just the top of the gauntlets or
- 1:17:17the top of the and and just try to mix it up a little bit.
- 1:17:20And then obviously do I like a lot of wear on my stuff.
- 1:17:25I want it to look like it's used.
- 1:17:29And then the other one is obviously that that was probably
- 1:17:32the the one on the the three Monkey Pirates is probably what
- 1:17:35I got most attention for when I that was right at the end of my
- 1:17:38first year painting. That has definitely brought them
- 1:17:41up more than once in our group channel.
- 1:17:42I think they're incredible. I love them.
- 1:17:44And it's funny because, you know, everybody went before the
- 1:17:46Monkey King was announced. Everybody was like, oh, it's
- 1:17:48going to be a pirate because they were, it looked like
- 1:17:50scrolls, maps and all this. That's right.
- 1:17:53And, and so when he came out, as, you know, it was Monkey
- 1:17:58King, I'm like, and then then the Marley body came out and
- 1:18:03everybody was making pirates. And I'm like, I'm going to make
- 1:18:06a monkey pirate, you know, 'cause everybody thought the
- 1:18:08monkey was going to be a pirate. And Anthony gave me the tip on
- 1:18:14just using the top of those boots.
- 1:18:15I had to Dremel it out a little bit for the feet to pop in.
- 1:18:18So he still feels like he has that Monkey King portions.
- 1:18:22That's right. But yeah, I made the red one,
- 1:18:25which I don't keep a ton of my customs anymore, but that's, you
- 1:18:29know, I I keep him because he's one of my favorites.
- 1:18:32The blue one's going to be at at the table at Legions Con.
- 1:18:36And then the other one was a Jack Sparrow custom I did for
- 1:18:40our inspired custom I did for George from the studio.
- 1:18:43Oh cool. So that's that's going to good
- 1:18:46home. Yeah, that was like, again, I
- 1:18:48always try to like, it's kind of hard to see on that picture, but
- 1:18:52there was AI got a white scarf for three and three quarter
- 1:18:55figures off eBay and I took a red marker and tried to draw all
- 1:18:58the the lines that are on there. Here's the annoying part.
- 1:19:01He's holding a map in his hand, which came off the the cradles
- 1:19:05or cradles. Yeah.
- 1:19:09Off his little bag with the with the little map attached to it,
- 1:19:12and I cut it off, dremeled it now and then the map or the
- 1:19:15accessory pack with a little scrolls came out like you know,
- 1:19:20and then he's got a gourd and then he's got the figure obscura
- 1:19:25key. And then instead of a monkey
- 1:19:28bone Paul, he has a human bone hand on his.
- 1:19:32Bill, nice. Yeah, got to keep your scores.
- 1:19:36Yep. Right.
- 1:19:38And then we've got a couple of guys with glowing eyes.
- 1:19:42Love the. Yeah, that, that's something
- 1:19:43else that I get a lot of comments on is my OSL object
- 1:19:48surface lighting for my glow eyes.
- 1:19:54It's it's a really fun technique to do and it's not that hard.
- 1:19:59You just have to be patient with it.
- 1:20:02It's it's a white and then super, super thin layers of the
- 1:20:06fluorescent because if you do them too thick, it darkens real
- 1:20:09quick. Then you get these dark patches
- 1:20:10and then just some dry brushing. On the surfaces where the light
- 1:20:14would land and then tons of gloss ton, tons of gloss varnish
- 1:20:19on the surfaces. So they, they pick up the lights
- 1:20:24and yeah. And I love that kit on the
- 1:20:26right. And I was bummed when Legion
- 1:20:27shop discontinued it. And then Lynn has now picked up
- 1:20:32those files and, and so I was able to get some more of those
- 1:20:35from him. It's just a real unique head
- 1:20:37because those eyes are holes like, and, and So what I do is I
- 1:20:43paint the ball, the neck peg that, that, that green.
- 1:20:47And so since it's kind of hollow, it gives it that depth
- 1:20:50that because it's not painted on the surface.
- 1:20:53So Lynn was messing me. He's like, do you want me to
- 1:20:55fill those in? I can fill.
- 1:20:56I'm like, no, don't change that, please.
- 1:21:00That's that's my favorite part of that head.
- 1:21:04And so I kind of went for like a a Bioshock kind of vibe with it.
- 1:21:11C was it CB Mike or C by my, I can't remember all these people.
- 1:21:14I buy parts from the hand drill and there's a tank on the back
- 1:21:18that come from him even that's a Wolf king wrench.
- 1:21:23I love the, I love the drill. Are they kind of drill bit for?
- 1:21:27It's really cool. Yeah, right.
- 1:21:31What have we got next? So more glowing.
- 1:21:33So this goblin is a goblin with another.
- 1:21:36Yep, Yep, it's a goblin. Those were some planetary dog
- 1:21:40parts. That's where they yeah, that's
- 1:21:43how I recognize them. The the hook was just meant to
- 1:21:47supposed to be plugged on to like a staff or something or a
- 1:21:52spear. And what I did was I took the
- 1:21:56connection point out of his hand and basically pulled the hand
- 1:21:59off and then glued it inside the hook so it can still turn and
- 1:22:05articulate, pop out just like a hand.
- 1:22:10And then that's the other yellow guy I was painting.
- 1:22:15I was kind of going for like a construction vibe, which is what
- 1:22:20I was going. And I have one guy that as soon
- 1:22:22as I put one of those up, he's like, OK, I'm picking that up at
- 1:22:24Legions con so. Nice.
- 1:22:28Actually a lot of these I've pre sold like 20 customs before I
- 1:22:32showed up and I still have I have like 10 at the table plus
- 1:22:37about 45 or 50 heads but. Are you, are you going to keep
- 1:22:42the ones even you've sold at the table until the end of the
- 1:22:44weekend? Yeah, that was part of the deal
- 1:22:46was I, I wanted to, you know, I want to like, you know, you guys
- 1:22:50know it's like going to an art show when you see all this, this
- 1:22:53talented stuff. I don't, I don't want, I want
- 1:22:56stuff to be seen. Now if somebody's there only on
- 1:22:58Saturday, you know, just pick it up point of the day.
- 1:23:01But everybody's like, yeah, I don't want to carry it around
- 1:23:03all weekend anyways. Pick it up on Sunday.
- 1:23:07Yeah, we had rich regular intervals coming back to our
- 1:23:11area with the bubble wrap and stuff.
- 1:23:15Yeah, I had. I had to hit as that intern.
- 1:23:17I was like, cool, I don't have to hold this.
- 1:23:21And this was the last one you sent over is a a recent one I
- 1:23:26think you did. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:23:29And it's funny because so some I don't like painting me because
- 1:23:34every time every hears this wrong, I love painting heads.
- 1:23:37Like I love the detail heads. I don't love just painting heads
- 1:23:41like I'm going to have painted heads because not everybody
- 1:23:46could afford a full custom. Some people want to be able to
- 1:23:48pop and swap their own bodies and just slap a head on it.
- 1:23:52But I have a hard time with it because I need to visualize what
- 1:23:57the whole thing is going to be. And you can't always do that.
- 1:24:00Yeah. So I was painting some fury orcs
- 1:24:03and I painted this, this dwarf demon fury colors.
- 1:24:06And it was going to be on my rack.
- 1:24:07And then I was just like, I just like it too much.
- 1:24:11And so the next day I, I, I built this custom for using a
- 1:24:15lot of the demon parts and Pox's parts and, and everything's
- 1:24:21painted. Obviously the, the fury arms are
- 1:24:23not painted and the chest isn't. But then I paint match the legs
- 1:24:28and the shoulders to the fury metal and then obviously painted
- 1:24:31all the demon parts. Yeah, I I just have these weird
- 1:24:37something will get in my head and I can't sleep until I get it
- 1:24:41down, get the parts together and start figuring it out.
- 1:24:45Yeah, that's sometimes my problem as well as I'm dying to
- 1:24:48get it done. Once I've kind of clicks clicked
- 1:24:50in your head, sometimes you need to just go oh OK, let it let it
- 1:24:55happen. And did Richard not send you the
- 1:24:58any of the patina pictures? No, actually, but we can.
- 1:25:01We can get them up, don't worry. Talk to us about your pins then
- 1:25:06while I do that. So my logo, I wanted it to be
- 1:25:15like an old school street sign, which you know what, for those
- 1:25:18white and and black signs, I'd rather originally was going to
- 1:25:22be weathered and stuff, but it it just wasn't translating
- 1:25:24right. So we just went with the
- 1:25:25straight white and black. And my buddy who designed that
- 1:25:29logo, he threw a bunch of different colors on it too, just
- 1:25:32to say for all. And then he did the Sesame
- 1:25:34Street color 1 and I was like, holy crap, I love that.
- 1:25:37Like which is like the shirts I'm doing and a lot of stickers
- 1:25:41I'm doing are all using the Sesame Street colors.
- 1:25:42And then Anthony was like, oh, well, you should make yourself
- 1:25:45a, a Muppet then, you know, jokingly.
- 1:25:48And I contacted Mark, I'm terrible with names.
- 1:25:52He's in the community. And I sent him a picture of me
- 1:25:56and I said I want to be a Muppet.
- 1:25:59And so I took his Muppet me and then my logo and and pushed them
- 1:26:02together and then did the pens, stickers and T-shirts.
- 1:26:07So yeah, it's Muppet me. I'll be definitely grabbing a
- 1:26:10pin, yeah. I love that you have three
- 1:26:11different. Colorways, yeah, I had to do
- 1:26:13some some some purple gang gang glove, which that one's the
- 1:26:18limited. That one's only twenty of those.
- 1:26:20Well, 20 to start with. I've already pre sold some the
- 1:26:24black and then the the Sesame Street one I have plenty of.
- 1:26:26I got like 40 or 50 each of those.
- 1:26:29So I got plenty of those. Very good, in fact.
- 1:26:31So how much of the pens if people want to?
- 1:26:34$8. Awesome.
- 1:26:37Look at your $2.00 notes there for them.
- 1:26:42And these are the stickers obviously in the same design.
- 1:26:45Yeah, yeah, yeah. When Lynn, when Lynn saw the
- 1:26:49Sesame Street colors, he was like, yeah, we're going to put
- 1:26:51that on stickers and we're going to put that on a shirt.
- 1:26:53I. Love it.
- 1:26:55Yeah, Lynn stickers are great. We had some last year from we'll
- 1:26:58have some more this year. They're they're excellent
- 1:27:00quality, really good, right, Patina?
- 1:27:03Yeah, this is something you're known for as well, maybe more
- 1:27:07recently. Yeah, it, it's the, which is
- 1:27:10funny because it was, well, Anthony calls me the Patina
- 1:27:13Prince because he thinks it's funny.
- 1:27:17It was a custom. I, I did one last year because
- 1:27:20mythic bits did these little stands, little statue stands
- 1:27:25for, for dwarves. And so I painted one in this.
- 1:27:29I, I tried my best at doing it. And Anthony actually bought that
- 1:27:32custom from me last year and I enjoy doing it so much that I, I
- 1:27:36just kept working on it and working on it.
- 1:27:37And I've done it, you know, half a dozen Times Now.
- 1:27:41And, and it's just one of my favorite paint things to do.
- 1:27:44I did this as Anthony, just as a as a thank you for.
- 1:27:47Are kind of busts on a on a plinth.
- 1:27:50Yeah, the heads are swappable, but the everything else is glued
- 1:27:54together. What is that?
- 1:27:55Is that something you made yourself to plinth or?
- 1:27:57Is no. It's a buddy of mine, Greg Cook,
- 1:28:00who does a lot of 3D printing. He, he gave me one of those as a
- 1:28:04sample at Joe Atlanta, which was just recently and I already
- 1:28:14messed him. Like I'm like, hey, I need like
- 1:28:155 or 6 more of those. But yeah, it's, but it's one of
- 1:28:20those things because, you know, most retail toys, it's just
- 1:28:24metal and then like a wash of, of the patina color.
- 1:28:29And I never really like that because I don't feel like it
- 1:28:31gives you that, you know, cuz a real patina thing has texture
- 1:28:35and has, you know, this, this matte look to it.
- 1:28:39So it's like 7 layers of paint to get that look.
- 1:28:42And then it's a lot of just trial and error and
- 1:28:45understanding where stuff would land, where it wouldn't land.
- 1:28:50Yeah, kind of. Tidying it up and all that kind
- 1:28:52of stuff. Yeah.
- 1:28:53So this year have also done an anvil.
- 1:28:55Here we see. Yeah, Dirk, we were leaving
- 1:28:58Ishkcon and and Dirk was packing up and he was like, here, take
- 1:29:01one of these dwarf the idea of those because he he prints them
- 1:29:04in like a translucent plastic is so you can and they're hollow so
- 1:29:07you can put a light in them. But I I wanted to slap my patina
- 1:29:11paint all over it. So I did.
- 1:29:14SO11 side has like flame eyes. Yeah.
- 1:29:17So that's what I really like so. If you turn it and if you turn
- 1:29:20it the other way, it's. Stuff like this yeah it's shut
- 1:29:24off and it that's cool and and you have a few more patina guys
- 1:29:29here so this is a trio of figures basically at the the one
- 1:29:34on the right here is kind of the the Yep guy that we've seen with
- 1:29:38the with the. Yeah, he'll, he'll be at my him
- 1:29:40and Swig will be at my table for sale, though obviously Swig has
- 1:29:45to stay with me until after the photo.
- 1:29:49The Dino was Matt from Defenders of Eden.
- 1:29:57Prototype or whatever blank. Yeah, All of a sudden I got
- 1:30:00added to a Facebook chat group with me and, and he's a few
- 1:30:05other folks, some really super talented folks.
- 1:30:10And he was like, hey, I, I, I, you guys are going to get
- 1:30:12something in the mail as a present.
- 1:30:15We had no idea. And it showed up a day later and
- 1:30:17they were the blanks. And it was like, just do
- 1:30:19whatever you want to them. And I was sitting there
- 1:30:22struggling because like David Williams is is one of the guys
- 1:30:25and I'm like, like, really like I don't want to be compared to,
- 1:30:30you know, these guys do a mate. And so I knew they were going to
- 1:30:33do more traditional repaints. So I'm like, well, what can I
- 1:30:39do? OK, well, this is I can't do
- 1:30:42anything dwarf to it, but this is something that a lot of
- 1:30:44people know me for. So I did, I did this on it.
- 1:30:47And that's a big figure to paint.
- 1:30:50It's a. It's a big figure.
- 1:30:51It's a lot of paint. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:30:53So that top left one was my first attempt at that patina.
- 1:30:56That picture you just brought up?
- 1:30:57This one here, yeah. Yeah, and you can see it's not
- 1:31:00as. Yeah, it's not as kind of subtle
- 1:31:04or whatever. Yeah, and Anthony bought that
- 1:31:07last year, but I I've gotten at the point now where I feel like
- 1:31:11I can do it in my sleep. Awesome.
- 1:31:14So. So it's a lot of funny.
- 1:31:16And did the the figure you got from Matt, that's actual
- 1:31:19plastic, so it's from the. Oh yeah, it's it was an actual
- 1:31:22factory sample and he's going to have all four of those on
- 1:31:26display at his table at Legions Con.
- 1:31:28He's still got one more to reveal.
- 1:31:30So I won't, I won't say who it is, but yeah, it was very
- 1:31:34intimidating to be. Well, you did good.
- 1:31:37You did good. Yeah.
- 1:31:38Yeah, you figured it out. You figured out what what would
- 1:31:43work best for you and I just. Didn't want to be compared.
- 1:31:45To them, it's tough, of course it's tough.
- 1:31:48But yeah, that's why it's good to have to have a few things
- 1:31:52that you at least. I mean, I mean, we think you're
- 1:31:54great at everything, but at least that you you think you're
- 1:31:57good at, which is probably the most important so.
- 1:31:59So we're excited to see all. I don't know what Matt's going
- 1:32:01to do with him. He hasn't decided.
- 1:32:04He may do a raffle or he may I I don't know what he's going to do
- 1:32:08with him, but it'll be cool to see him all together at the
- 1:32:10table. Allegiance con at his table,
- 1:32:12allegiance con. So I'm.
- 1:32:13Excited for that for sure. And so that was is David as
- 1:32:17well. Do we know the other people or
- 1:32:19is is Fielder? I know 1 hasn't been revealed.
- 1:32:24I'm not sure if he's revealed the other one yet.
- 1:32:27He may have. OK.
- 1:32:29I don't know for sure, so I don't want to say.
- 1:32:31Yeah, makes sense. He's and it's because I was done
- 1:32:34painting that for like because I can't, I'm terrible at holding
- 1:32:40anything in. Like I just can't do like my
- 1:32:43wife and I are terrible for Christmas because it's like our
- 1:32:45birthdays. It's like, here's your gift
- 1:32:46three weeks early. And so when I'm done with
- 1:32:50something, I want to post it right away because I want to
- 1:32:53share it. And I had to wait for like 2
- 1:32:55weeks. I'm like, God, please post it.
- 1:32:57Please post it. Luckily he posted mine first.
- 1:33:00Thank God. Yeah.
- 1:33:03Love that, love that. Right.
- 1:33:05And are you going to intern or anything like that?
- 1:33:09Yeah, I I'll be there. I'll invited guests.
- 1:33:15I don't know, whatever they call it.
- 1:33:16Oh. Cool.
- 1:33:17I'm a plus one, yeah. Oh, you're, you're coming with
- 1:33:20somebody else or? No, I'm a plus one with George.
- 1:33:23OK, awesome. A bit like yeah, we got invited
- 1:33:29for for doing the show. So I think it's cool.
- 1:33:32Have you guys been an intern before?
- 1:33:33Rich has and I suppose that's. Right, because Rich was there
- 1:33:37with me last year. Yeah.
- 1:33:39It's amazing. It's amazing.
- 1:33:41It's such a good time. I, I love, I make a whole week
- 1:33:43out of it because I, I leave Tuesday and I, I get there
- 1:33:47Wednesday and kind of go into the studio and just kind of
- 1:33:50stare at the ceiling just because.
- 1:33:52Yeah, I don't want to accidentally see anything
- 1:33:54because they're still going 90 to nothing.
- 1:33:56I'm like, I don't want to see anything like people think
- 1:33:59because I've known George for years, like, oh, so you know
- 1:34:01this. And I'm like a they're not going
- 1:34:03to tell me that BI wouldn't want to know.
- 1:34:06Like I want. I want to sit in front with
- 1:34:09everybody else and scream my head off when they bring a damn
- 1:34:12bear out. Yeah.
- 1:34:14Exactly. That's more fun, yeah,
- 1:34:16especially as, as what you've told us about, you know, not
- 1:34:19wanting to post things once they're done.
- 1:34:21If if you knew about the bear two months before, that would be
- 1:34:24more punishment for you because. That would be horrible.
- 1:34:27Yeah, actually one of the cool things about being there for the
- 1:34:30reveal and and even when there's online reveals is all the kind
- 1:34:35of talking to your buddies and talking to other people and you
- 1:34:38know, the reaction in the room or whatever.
- 1:34:40So that's for sure. I was.
- 1:34:43Just sit in the corner with my head up at this ceiling.
- 1:34:46I. Was just imagining one of those
- 1:34:48cryptic Facebook posts. You guys will never believe what
- 1:34:51I've seen. I can barely take.
- 1:34:58What's that about? No, so I am.
- 1:35:02I'm glad that that I do not get any kind of secrets because I
- 1:35:06I'm not the one you want to give too many secrets to.
- 1:35:08And also if if somebody who does know is accidentally let's it
- 1:35:12slip, you won't get the blame then you know, or right, you
- 1:35:15know, Yeah, if they're. Let let them slip.
- 1:35:17I don't want. To Yeah, that's sometimes the
- 1:35:19best, best. Way part of the fun, right?
- 1:35:21Because it's not like if I knew early, that doesn't do anything
- 1:35:24for me. I don't get them sooner.
- 1:35:25I don't. I miss out on the conversations
- 1:35:28that everybody's going to be having, so I miss out on the
- 1:35:311400 posts on the same day that everybody's.
- 1:35:33Posting the same thing, yeah. This thing the Four Horsemen
- 1:35:36posted? No, I didn't.
- 1:35:38What is it? Yeah, for sure.
- 1:35:41It's it's a little bit. It's not the same it depending
- 1:35:44on the line, but if you're into line but not mega into it and
- 1:35:47then there's a long pre-order and then it does eventually show
- 1:35:49up. And then at that point you might
- 1:35:51have moved on from it. Yeah.
- 1:35:53And it's it's a bit the similar thing.
- 1:35:55It's like you don't want to know about something too too early.
- 1:35:57Yeah, I mean, we already have a 18 month wait.
- 1:36:01Yeah, after finding out, I don't want to add six months to that.
- 1:36:04Like for sure I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to neck
- 1:36:07anonymous this thing all the time.
- 1:36:09Yeah. Because all you're doing is,
- 1:36:11yeah, you're just moving ahead six months in the in the
- 1:36:14timeline. But then eventually, eventually
- 1:36:17you, you don't know the stuff that's not known.
- 1:36:21That's not fun. You're still waiting.
- 1:36:23Yeah, very good. And have you any apart from the
- 1:36:27Dwarf 2 pack, which I'm sure is probably your most anticipated,
- 1:36:30anything else you're really looking forward to?
- 1:36:32That's that's on pre-order that we're waiting for.
- 1:36:36I'm very excited for Atlas just because Noble Bear was one of
- 1:36:43those factions that once I started like I was like, oh, I
- 1:36:45went and I'm like, I can't get this one.
- 1:36:47I can't get this one and I can't get I'm like, and it's just he's
- 1:36:52that in my mind, just a great barbarian look at, even though,
- 1:36:56you know, I guess I don't know what his official class is.
- 1:37:00I don't know what he would call him, but he just gives that
- 1:37:02grizzly look and and and and I love The Dirty grizzly.
- 1:37:06That's why I like that, that that wave last year was one of
- 1:37:09my favorite things just cause with the Viking stuff and what
- 1:37:11it just felt more lived in. Yeah.
- 1:37:15Absolutely. So Alice the Dwarf is 100%.
- 1:37:18Well that and the Goblin 2 pack I'm really excited about because
- 1:37:22I love when I can turn a goblin into a dwarf.
- 1:37:24It just makes me happy. And send it to to Dan Tobin and
- 1:37:29Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
- 1:37:31But no, I, I, you know, I, I love the packs that I get a lot
- 1:37:34of bits out of, like the the mythic 2 pack from Legions con
- 1:37:41this year. I'm all over for all those stuff
- 1:37:45in there. So yeah, I mean, I'm real
- 1:37:47excited. And there's the Atlas head in
- 1:37:49there as well. So that's.
- 1:37:50Yeah, yeah. So.
- 1:37:51Exciting. It allows me to be able to
- 1:37:53repaint it, which makes me happy because I can actually because I
- 1:37:56would want to repaint an actual Atlas head.
- 1:37:58That would be weird. That's what I'm thinking about
- 1:38:02the part swap that Chris James is organizing.
- 1:38:05And if people, if there are some crazy people that want to swap
- 1:38:09their Atlas head, I'm sure, I'm sure we could pick up a few more
- 1:38:14happily. You know, I, I'm toying with
- 1:38:17doing the part swap because obviously I have so many just
- 1:38:20bins of, but I'm like, it's the same stuff that everybody has,
- 1:38:25like how many people need that spear or that Max or like, but
- 1:38:29my, I can't throw them away. I can't do it.
- 1:38:31Like I just, I may just hand a bag to him.
- 1:38:34Like I was at Ishcon and, and I don't remember the guy's name.
- 1:38:38He was like, Hey, if anybody's got any Goblin deluxe builder
- 1:38:41heads, if you give me up to 5 or whatever, I'll give you some
- 1:38:44money off or whatever. I came up a bag of like 20 of
- 1:38:47them because I've killed a lot of those dwarfs for.
- 1:38:49Are those those bodies for dwarfs?
- 1:38:51I'm like here, just take a bag of heads.
- 1:38:52What am I going to do with these things?
- 1:38:54Yeah, that's for sure. Well, Matt, thanks a million for
- 1:38:58your time. This was awesome.
- 1:38:59Yeah. And can't wait to see you and be
- 1:39:02on the same block. Yeah, so we get to see good
- 1:39:04we're. Going to have a lot of fun in
- 1:39:06that, yeah. Absolutely a lot.
- 1:39:08Of fun. So far we've had a few people
- 1:39:11from the block on, so we're we're definitely building the
- 1:39:14hype for section. Very good.
- 1:39:17Thanks. A million, right?
- 1:39:23We got Giovanni from black magic customs.
- 1:39:27You all know Giovanni. Everybody knows Giovanni, even
- 1:39:30if they don't know Giovanni. You know, it's just the
- 1:39:32reputation, it's the name. How are you, man?
- 1:39:37I'm doing good man. How you guys doing?
- 1:39:39Yeah, super. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:39:41Yeah. Really getting getting in the
- 1:39:43mood for allegiance, Khan. Now you know.
- 1:39:46Yeah, everybody's getting in the mood.
- 1:39:48Yeah, trying to get in the mood. So have.
- 1:39:51You been not in the mood? Try.
- 1:39:53Have you been busy with customizing and all that kind of
- 1:39:55stuff or? To be honest with you guys.
- 1:40:02No, I. Remember, I remember this from
- 1:40:06when we talked last year, it was like, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm,
- 1:40:09I'm, you know, and you still having it with some cool stuff
- 1:40:12at Legions Council. Yeah, I'm pretty, I'm pretty
- 1:40:15good under pressure because you know, time, you know, I don't
- 1:40:20have a lot of time in the day to, to knock a lot of things
- 1:40:22out. But I got, I got some things
- 1:40:26work, I got some things worked out.
- 1:40:27I'm not ready. No, I'm not ready.
- 1:40:30Kind of taking my time, but I'll bring some cool stuff.
- 1:40:33You guys will see some cool stuff.
- 1:40:35I try to, I try not to stress myself out because I noticed
- 1:40:38like a lot like it can get really, really stressful, you
- 1:40:41know, because it should you're excited to see everybody, you
- 1:40:46know, you're excited for the toys, you're excited for the
- 1:40:49customs, you're excited to see people's reaction and things
- 1:40:52like that. But man, it can get stressful
- 1:40:57and it can get very, I don't know how to explain it.
- 1:41:02You can get very scary, almost in a way you know, scary, you
- 1:41:07know. Absolutely.
- 1:41:09I'm getting old. I can't.
- 1:41:10I can't have my heart racing too, too much for action
- 1:41:15figures. Yeah, for sure.
- 1:41:18Do you get? When do you get time to actually
- 1:41:20do the work? Because it's a just at weekends
- 1:41:23or do you ever get time during the week or because I know you
- 1:41:26you have a bit busy schedule with work from assuming you're
- 1:41:28doing the same work as the last time we spoke, you drive, don't.
- 1:41:32You so some days I get home early, some days I get home
- 1:41:37late. Usually the days I get home late
- 1:41:39and of course is the just is when I'm ready to go and I have
- 1:41:44a little time and then when I get home early, I'm just wasting
- 1:41:47time, wasting time away. So, but yeah, those I, I usually
- 1:41:52have almost every day to, to, to do something.
- 1:41:55But it doesn't end up playing out like that, to be honest with
- 1:41:57you. By the time I get home, dealing
- 1:41:59with the kids, the wife, getting something to eat and just taking
- 1:42:03care of normal life things, you know, yeah, it's, it's hard to
- 1:42:07concentrate and get into that world and start painting and
- 1:42:10stuff like that, you know? Absolutely, yeah.
- 1:42:13And are you continuing on the similar team to what you've been
- 1:42:17doing with the like for example, you did a lot of customs, we'll
- 1:42:21have a look at them now in a minute with the Anubis set, so
- 1:42:24that type of stuff or? Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I already
- 1:42:28already got him busted up already.
- 1:42:31So how many of them did you get then?
- 1:42:35I got Noah. What?
- 1:42:37Who'd ask? No, I got like, I got like three
- 1:42:39sets. OK, that's not too many.
- 1:42:41No, I did want to get. I did want to get more, yeah,
- 1:42:46but I figure I have so many other figures in box.
- 1:42:49I'm hoping maybe I could get some trades in maybe.
- 1:42:52Maybe somebody's interested in Yeah, it's also to.
- 1:42:56It's always tough. A lot of the figure obscures of
- 1:43:00great parts, For example, that cold from Jacob Marley as well.
- 1:43:04Obviously the Anubis has the, the skin tones as well and that
- 1:43:08we don't have in other figures and lots of the cool accessories
- 1:43:12and kind of ornamental stuff. But they're, they're a little
- 1:43:17bit pricier than the regular figures.
- 1:43:19So it's always, it's always a tough ask to, to RIP it apart
- 1:43:23for a custom, you know? I was just going to say that.
- 1:43:25I was just going to say it's a little, it's a little tough
- 1:43:28because it is. What was it about 100 bucks for
- 1:43:30both of them? Like what's funny?
- 1:43:32Let's have a look at some of the stuff on your Instagram page
- 1:43:37because that's always cool to look at.
- 1:43:39So as we said about the Anubis and Best, you have a couple of
- 1:43:46beautiful looking heads here. So this was stuff he brought to
- 1:43:48Ishkhan, is that right? Yes, I did.
- 1:43:52I did bring some of that stuff to Ishkhan.
- 1:43:56And how did that go? Trevor owns that.
- 1:44:00Oh nice. Yeah, Trevor got that one.
- 1:44:03He got that one. So it it seems like you your
- 1:44:08approach to sort of doing the customizing that is sort of you
- 1:44:10do it for yourself and then if someone does want to, you can be
- 1:44:16tempted and talked into maybe selling it.
- 1:44:19Would you say that's the approach or are you coming round
- 1:44:22to making stuff to sell? Oh, absolutely.
- 1:44:26I, I, I've kind of approached it where I would start off by
- 1:44:30painting it in a way that I would want it to be painted on
- 1:44:34my shelf. I do paint sometimes and I say
- 1:44:38this is going to be for sale, but I do kind of like put that
- 1:44:45aside and say, well, what would I want on my shelf?
- 1:44:48You know, I kind of don't, I kind of don't think about
- 1:44:51anybody else, like maybe this person would want yellow hair.
- 1:44:55You know, if if I'm not going to have a figure with yellow hair
- 1:44:58on my shelf, I'm not going to paint it, you know, But yeah,
- 1:45:02you could say approaching like that.
- 1:45:04I love this. This lady here with the hair is
- 1:45:07amazing. Yeah, I love.
- 1:45:09I love that. Where did those sets come from?
- 1:45:14My friend Chris gave them to me. He gifted with gifted them to
- 1:45:18me. Yeah.
- 1:45:19I don't know where he gets his stuff.
- 1:45:20You think he gets his stuff on Etsy it's called.
- 1:45:23Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's, he has, he has, he
- 1:45:27has a lot of different sites where he can get these sculpts
- 1:45:29from. Yeah.
- 1:45:31I told him I was like, man, I, I really need some African, some
- 1:45:36black females because there's not a lot of them out there, you
- 1:45:39know? And he found those for me.
- 1:45:43These are awesome. I mean, these could, you know,
- 1:45:46these could fit into a Marvel movie almost.
- 1:45:49They're so cool. Really cool.
- 1:45:55This guy here with the wings. Then tell us about him.
- 1:46:00I love that figure. I love that.
- 1:46:02I love how that came out. I did not expect it to come out
- 1:46:05that cool because as soon as we got the brute, the brute scale
- 1:46:09figures, of course I want to do that brute scale in in black
- 1:46:13skin. And I didn't know what head I
- 1:46:15was going to use. I originally if you if you
- 1:46:17scroll through that, there was another head, There was a
- 1:46:20wrestling head, the guy with the braids.
- 1:46:23Yeah, that's that's the one. That's the original head and I,
- 1:46:26I, I, I, I enjoyed that head on it, but I was like, you know
- 1:46:29what? I, I want to, I want to have
- 1:46:30like a like a a non human look to him.
- 1:46:33Yeah. So tell us how how did you go
- 1:46:35back to the to the symbol on this head, the the this guy
- 1:46:41here. To be honest with you, I had no
- 1:46:45idea. I have no idea.
- 1:46:47I I wanted to put something on his something on there just just
- 1:46:51to give it some kind of like a, some kind of flair to it because
- 1:46:54when I painted it fully, it was cool.
- 1:46:57But I said I just want more to it.
- 1:46:59And I kind of freestyled it first.
- 1:47:01I did like that, the Half Moon Crescent.
- 1:47:03And then it kind of just kind of just went, I freestyled it just
- 1:47:08went with the flow it looks. Really just paint it straight
- 1:47:11out, or did you sort of draw it first?
- 1:47:14Or no, I I painted it. Oh, wow.
- 1:47:18OK, I painted it. Yeah, it was.
- 1:47:20It was tricky. Yeah.
- 1:47:23And the full, the full repaint of the brood scale is.
- 1:47:26Yeah, that's a bit of work, huh? You have another one here that
- 1:47:31you did in a kind of a almost kind of purple, purple, light
- 1:47:36purple. Yeah, he's amazing.
- 1:47:40That one actually looks better in person than it does in
- 1:47:43photos. You could like photos photos
- 1:47:47like. You could probably see it more
- 1:47:48better in that picture if you. Yeah, well, it looks really good
- 1:47:52here. So it looks even better in hand
- 1:47:54then that's that's pretty impressive, but.
- 1:47:58That was actually the thing about it for a friend of.
- 1:48:00Mine. Oh, was it?
- 1:48:01Right. So the thing about your paint
- 1:48:09jobs is they're always so smooth.
- 1:48:10I mean, so there's always a lot of a lot of love gone into them
- 1:48:15and a lot of time then as a result.
- 1:48:19For sure. This is another guy.
- 1:48:21Is this brute scale as well or this is Ogre?
- 1:48:25Is it? That's Ogre scale, Yeah, it's
- 1:48:28over scale. Wow this is this is something
- 1:48:35you'll have at legions con or is he gone already?
- 1:48:39He he sold, but he will be allegiance con.
- 1:48:43Cool. So when I was going, when I was
- 1:48:45going to ish con, these were going to be for sale.
- 1:48:47But a couple of people hit me up there now they were, they kind
- 1:48:51of wanted, really wanted it, wanted to purchase, purchase
- 1:48:54them and I sold them. So some of my favorite stuff.
- 1:49:01But they'll be displayed at Legions Con.
- 1:49:04But he is. He is picking them up at Legions
- 1:49:07Con. I was.
- 1:49:10Going to say some of my favorite stuff you do is you're sort of
- 1:49:12more cosmic styled stuff. Have you got anything or any of
- 1:49:15these, or have you got anything planned to come to Legions Con?
- 1:49:19Yeah, these, this is something I've been playing with.
- 1:49:22I've been dabbling in kind of like into a modern futuristic
- 1:49:31style because it's it's leaning towards cosmic and then it's
- 1:49:36leaning towards kind of like modern, modern day.
- 1:49:39Yeah, I I'm just, I'm just, I'm just freestyling it.
- 1:49:43Well, it's like a cyber. Yeah, like a cyber.
- 1:49:45Cyberpunk. Yeah, yeah, very cyberpunk.
- 1:49:47Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:49:49Does it does remind me of that? Here's another one.
- 1:49:55Very cool. Yeah, I like that one.
- 1:49:59That one. That one came back.
- 1:50:00I didn't know. I had no idea where I was going
- 1:50:02with it. Kind of like a, you know, a
- 1:50:06military. I was going to put some color on
- 1:50:08it, but I thought the black really good, Really good.
- 1:50:11It really works, yeah. It really just pops and you do a
- 1:50:15lot of female customs, which is it's something I think that's
- 1:50:19appreciated because not that many people do the female
- 1:50:22customs. Yeah, I love.
- 1:50:26I love the female customs. You got to have some females in
- 1:50:28there, man. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:50:31I think, I think 50% of the problem with the female customs
- 1:50:36for people is they're difficult because they're smaller and
- 1:50:40takes a little bit more of a steady hand.
- 1:50:44Yeah. So that's Artemis there and very
- 1:50:52cool. These motorbikes are these
- 1:50:58something you did so you're. The first person to ask me about
- 1:51:01that, that that bike. OK, that's a tricky one.
- 1:51:06You're the first person to ask me about that.
- 1:51:08I'm glad you did because I actually have the I have
- 1:51:11actually have the bike here. I'm going to show you guys real
- 1:51:13quick. So here's the bike, right?
- 1:51:18All. Right.
- 1:51:21So what this was this was I didn't do this at all, but I did
- 1:51:25do something to it. So there is a bike like this
- 1:51:28that exists that you could just buy straight out the box.
- 1:51:31It's about 100 and 2020 dollars, right?
- 1:51:35It's 120 on big bad or any on the website.
- 1:51:39But this is actually a 110th bike.
- 1:51:42So what it was was it was actually a statue.
- 1:51:47So when the game Cyberpunk came out, they sold a special edition
- 1:51:53where you could get by the video game with a statue and literally
- 1:51:58that this bike was like crashed in the front and it was like a
- 1:52:05statue like that. And there was a guy sitting on
- 1:52:07top of it and he's jumping off the bike, right.
- 1:52:10But it was the only existence. It was only bike like this in
- 1:52:13existence. That was 110th scale that would
- 1:52:15fit in with the figure, you know, bigger figures.
- 1:52:19There was another one that was sold is like 100 and something
- 1:52:21dollars, but it was 112, but it was small, like small 112.
- 1:52:27And all the figures I had, it just was it just wasn't going to
- 1:52:30work. I watched some reviews and So
- 1:52:32what I did was I pretty much ripped this off the statue and
- 1:52:36then it had no front tire because the front tire was
- 1:52:38crashed from the from the from the statue.
- 1:52:42So I cut I cut it out and then I took this I took I made this
- 1:52:46tire. I made this whole thing right
- 1:52:48here and then this tire came from just a random toy.
- 1:52:51I got it. I got it at the thrift store.
- 1:52:53So if you look in there, I don't know if you can see it in there,
- 1:52:55but if you look in there, all this is is gutted out in the
- 1:52:58inside. So I had to gut this whole front
- 1:53:01part out and then just replace it with the entire new the
- 1:53:04entire new tire and and frame to make it like a AA112 just to
- 1:53:11make 112. Because this this, this bike is
- 1:53:13probably the coolest. It's the coolest street bike
- 1:53:16I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, it's really cool.
- 1:53:18Yeah, it really looks realistic, but also a little bit
- 1:53:20futuristic. Yeah, I brought this.
- 1:53:23So you just called last year and people were looking at it and
- 1:53:25they thought it was the 112th that you just buy, you know,
- 1:53:29from from the store. And they were like, Oh yeah, I
- 1:53:31know what that is. Oh yeah, I know what this is.
- 1:53:33I was like, oh, OK, OK. Well, if you really looked, and
- 1:53:35I mean, if you really looked, you would know this, this is not
- 1:53:38the bike. It's way more detail than the
- 1:53:40other one that you that you would buy, you know, but.
- 1:53:43Yeah, for sure. When I saw it first, I was like,
- 1:53:46yeah, I don't recognize this from a figure.
- 1:53:50You know, like AI think there was a Mesco Ghost Rider that
- 1:53:54came with a bike and probably some other figures but I didn't
- 1:53:57recognize it. Yeah, this one.
- 1:54:01And we also have another bike here.
- 1:54:06Oh yeah, like a dirt bike. Yeah, that was cut that at
- 1:54:11Target, all right, But I did, yeah.
- 1:54:15It was the motocross motocross toy.
- 1:54:20That's 112. But I actually repainted it took
- 1:54:23all the numbers off and I added a few things on there to make it
- 1:54:26look more cyber cyberpunkish. Yeah, because it's it's
- 1:54:32difficult to paint stuff that's so flat like that, you know,
- 1:54:37it's, it's easier to paint stuff with texture on it.
- 1:54:39So that that's a tricky little job of repainting that, you
- 1:54:45know. Thanks for looking, man, because
- 1:54:47you know, a lot of a lot of people, a lot of collectors,
- 1:54:50they don't really appreciate stuff like that.
- 1:54:51I, I mean, I love it when people ask and they notice it, you
- 1:54:55know? For sure, for sure.
- 1:54:57We've had, we've had many chats in our, in our your allegiance
- 1:55:01show chat, just the three of us, you know, preparing for the
- 1:55:04show, talking about different small details of your customs
- 1:55:08and other people's customs, because it's always appreciated.
- 1:55:11And especially, I think anyone that's done a little bit of
- 1:55:14customizing, you tend to pick up the the small stuff because
- 1:55:19that's, you know, that's the hard stuff.
- 1:55:22That's the difficult stuff. I think, you know, the big
- 1:55:25flashy stuff that everyone sees that's yeah, everyone does that.
- 1:55:30It's the attention to detail, you know, the small stuff.
- 1:55:33Yeah, this small thing this is what are you doing?
- 1:55:36What are you guys? I think I could you what are you
- 1:55:39guys bought a custom for me it. Was Rich Rich Rich is to make it
- 1:55:45to to this this. We're doing a couple of
- 1:55:47interviews today. He's not able to make it.
- 1:55:50Yeah, I was rich. Yeah, I think he will because he
- 1:55:54he's he's posting every couple of days.
- 1:55:57He's customs that he got last year, allegiance con.
- 1:56:00He's doing a bio for them and stuff.
- 1:56:01So I'm pretty sure yours will be coming up in the next couple of
- 1:56:06days or a week or two. So you get to read a bio about a
- 1:56:09custom that you've done. He's posted in the Cabal.
- 1:56:14Yeah, he posted in the Cabal. He hasn't posted yours yet, I
- 1:56:17don't think, but he is posting them in the cabal every couple
- 1:56:22of days and he's also posting them on his Instagram and I
- 1:56:26think I share them on the show Instagram as well.
- 1:56:28So yeah, you'll see it. Don't worry.
- 1:56:31I'll I'll pop it. I'll also DM you because I know
- 1:56:34that you're a busy guy. Not always possible to be
- 1:56:36sitting on social media. It's always tricky.
- 1:56:40And the way it works in the Cabal, you can just miss cool
- 1:56:42stuff. You can just fly by, you know.
- 1:56:45Yeah, it's crazy. And what you miss, you know,
- 1:56:50sometimes when I'm doing a bit of research for the show,
- 1:56:54whether it's to talk to somebody or just to, you know, maybe talk
- 1:56:58about some cool stuff, you can go back through the group and
- 1:57:00go, whoa, I miss that, miss that.
- 1:57:02And I thought I was on here, you know, 3-4 times a day.
- 1:57:05It's not enough. But I don't want to be on
- 1:57:08Facebook for more than that. Yeah, I jump in.
- 1:57:12I try to jump in, I try to jump in every day and then I'll just
- 1:57:15scroll and see like a couple of things and then I got to get
- 1:57:17off. So you do you end up do missing
- 1:57:19a lot a lot of stuff. Yeah, it's big community now in
- 1:57:25online. You know, I think in person,
- 1:57:28obviously there isn't everyone that's on the Cabal at Legions
- 1:57:31Con, but there's thousands of people in the Cabal and then you
- 1:57:35got to probably hardcore group that go to Legions Con.
- 1:57:38It's probably a good few 100 at this stage at least.
- 1:57:43Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy.
- 1:57:46So when you when you heading up to Legions Con, you're going
- 1:57:48earlier in the week or. We should be there Friday,
- 1:57:52Friday morning. Friday Cool, Who are you?
- 1:57:55Who are you heading up with? My wife.
- 1:57:59Oh, you're, oh, you're with the family.
- 1:58:01Cool. Just your wife or the kids as
- 1:58:02well. Just my wife.
- 1:58:05Oh cool, that's my. Wife cool, that's nice.
- 1:58:07So you can have a, you can have a bit of a nice relaxing weekend
- 1:58:11with some nerdy stuff. Yeah, for sure, for sure it'll.
- 1:58:16Be her. It'll be her first con.
- 1:58:18Oh, is it her first con? That's a good.
- 1:58:20First con she's She's in for a treat and she's in for.
- 1:58:23She's going to. Is she going to help out on the
- 1:58:25table or is she going to go and do her own thing?
- 1:58:28I think, I think I'm, I think I'm just going to, I think I'm
- 1:58:31just going to release her to the, to the world.
- 1:58:35I think it was just going to be like, hey, just go walk around.
- 1:58:38Yeah, well, the Allegiance ladies will happily recruit her
- 1:58:41anyway for sure. Yeah, she, she, she'll
- 1:58:44definitely, she'll definitely find some friends.
- 1:58:47So that'll be interesting for her to to see how people treat
- 1:58:53you in that scenario because if she hasn't been to a con, she
- 1:58:56maybe doesn't know how people kind of hold you in high esteem
- 1:59:02for your customs and stuff like that.
- 1:59:03She doesn't get to see that, you know?
- 1:59:06Yeah, that, that's going to be pretty cool.
- 1:59:11All those times she's like, why is he doing all that painting?
- 1:59:14You know when when he could be giving me more attention or he
- 1:59:17could be doing something around the house.
- 1:59:20She she knows. She knows I'm a nerd, but she
- 1:59:22she doesn't know how much of a big nerd I am.
- 1:59:28No, it's great. I'd love to.
- 1:59:30I'd love to do that at some point.
- 1:59:32It's just tricky logistically, obviously.
- 1:59:35And also my wife's a teacher. So it's always regions gone
- 1:59:38seems to always fall in the term as well.
- 1:59:40So even if it's tricky, but someday, someday, because my
- 1:59:46kids, I think they'd give, they'd give one of their arms to
- 1:59:49go. So I think they're a little bit
- 1:59:54too young for the they're 9:00 and 12:00.
- 1:59:56So I think another couple of years, I think if I could just
- 2:00:00get them there for the Saturday, Sunday, that would be fine.
- 2:00:03But we're going Wednesday because we got to go to interim
- 2:00:07this year. So that would be a bit of a
- 2:00:10stretch, I think, for them and for me, yeah.
- 2:00:17So you're. Yeah.
- 2:00:18My son My son was with him last year.
- 2:00:20It was. Yeah, he was, wasn't he?
- 2:00:22He was. With me last year, yeah.
- 2:00:25He right now he's 15. He's 15 now, OK.
- 2:00:27That's a nice age for that kind of stuff.
- 2:00:29Fortune, yeah. He liked he, he enjoyed it, he
- 2:00:32had a good time. Yeah, he had a good.
- 2:00:34Was there any other kids similar age that he got to hang out with
- 2:00:37or? No, no, not really.
- 2:00:43Not to remember he he stuck. He stuck by me through the whole
- 2:00:45the whole car. He helped me out with my table.
- 2:00:48But he definitely was blown away.
- 2:00:49He kept, he kept saying, Dad, come look at this, come look at
- 2:00:52this, Yeah, come, look at this, come look at this, you know.
- 2:00:56And of course, you know, he, he likes, he likes everybody else's
- 2:01:01stuff. But his dad's, you know, that
- 2:01:05was, that was, that was pretty cool.
- 2:01:06Like, you know, because he likes what he likes.
- 2:01:10He likes he loves the nights and he he he definitely appreciates.
- 2:01:16He definitely appreciates the the whole collecting world, you
- 2:01:21know, but he's he's at the age now he's like getting into girls
- 2:01:25and things like that, and he's a he's a his appearance.
- 2:01:28So he he even though he does appreciate the figures, just
- 2:01:32stuff like that. He he, he's not saying he's,
- 2:01:36he's not crying about missing, you know, allegiance con.
- 2:01:39Yeah, it's not. It's not.
- 2:01:40He's not like a shoot. Yeah.
- 2:01:42It's not cool enough. Yeah, it's not cool enough at
- 2:01:44the moment. Yeah, it'll come back around,
- 2:01:46you know, He just just need patience, you know?
- 2:01:48Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:01:49It happens a bit with everything, you know, I remember
- 2:01:52I dropped hobbies kind of around that time and picked them back
- 2:01:55up then later. And yeah, it's, it's pretty
- 2:01:58normal, you know, as long as he doesn't get himself in trouble,
- 2:02:01you know, he'd be happy. That's the main thing, no matter
- 2:02:03what. My wife's going to enjoy.
- 2:02:07I know she's going to enjoy it because my wife doesn't.
- 2:02:09My wife is a nerd, but she's the kind of nerd she doesn't know
- 2:02:13she's a nerd. Gotcha.
- 2:02:15Yeah, yeah. If that, if that makes any
- 2:02:17sense. You know, she, yeah, she's not
- 2:02:18get into things. She's get into.
- 2:02:21Things enough people in her circle that that kind of let her
- 2:02:24release it, you know? Exactly, exactly, exactly.
- 2:02:28When I first started collecting legions, I was trying to explain
- 2:02:32to her what it was. And she's like, Oh yeah, that's
- 2:02:34cool. Oh, yeah, oh, that looks cool.
- 2:02:36That's cool. And then when then when I
- 2:02:38actually got some figures, yeah, I got Hera Serpent Spire.
- 2:02:42And she's like, what is that? And I was like, this is Hera
- 2:02:46Serpent Spire mythic regions. And she was like, let me see
- 2:02:49that. And she grabbed it and she's
- 2:02:50like, this is cool. I was like, it's cool, right?
- 2:02:54And she's like, OK, don't customize this one.
- 2:02:57This one's mine. I was like, huh, right.
- 2:03:02So it's been on the shelf. I, I, I'm not allowed to touch
- 2:03:04it. I'm not even allowed to.
- 2:03:05Play and. She sees me, yeah.
- 2:03:08And then the demons. She likes the two demons as she
- 2:03:12loves those two. The hurt she loves the bio of
- 2:03:14that. She was nerding out with the
- 2:03:16whole. Oh yeah, and then we got the we
- 2:03:18got the Aza Hazer, then the big guy, the the amalgamation of the
- 2:03:24two. So yeah, it's a nice yeah, that
- 2:03:27bio is really cool. That's true.
- 2:03:29Yeah, she said the bio and that is really awesome.
- 2:03:33But yeah, she's she's going to, she's going to, she's definitely
- 2:03:36going to she. And then I had, I had AI had a
- 2:03:38little get together at my house too, and I had Joe Russo.
- 2:03:41Eddie. Cribs couple of some other
- 2:03:44friends from the cabal to come over and and I said I said I
- 2:03:48said, babe, I said I got some friends coming over.
- 2:03:51We're going to we're going to do some pop and swabs.
- 2:03:53We're just going to talk toys. And she's like, Oh my gosh, OK,
- 2:03:57right. And then when they came and then
- 2:04:00we all started, she was on the front line.
- 2:04:03Mind you, I'm sitting on the couch and she's talking to my
- 2:04:05friends more than I'm talking to my friends, right?
- 2:04:10And I'm just. Sitting there, like holding, I'm
- 2:04:12sitting there holding my action figure, like, Oh my gosh, she's
- 2:04:15just fully, fully immersed in this world.
- 2:04:17That isn't she, right? But she's going to love it.
- 2:04:20She's going to love it. Yeah, it could could get
- 2:04:23expensive though. If she's if she starts to
- 2:04:25collect them as well, then you know, you know.
- 2:04:28Yeah, yeah, yeah, she'll budget. She's she's.
- 2:04:33She's the she's the one that makes the good money.
- 2:04:35Is she? Yeah, that's good.
- 2:04:39I can't have any money man, trust me when the money goes to
- 2:04:42her because. So it goes back around, Yeah.
- 2:04:46Oh yeah. But you know, you got to know
- 2:04:47your strengths and weaknesses in, in, in all these things.
- 2:04:51Yeah, I remember a wave came out in and out.
- 2:04:53It was on, it was on. It was on Big Bad.
- 2:04:55I didn't pre-order it I think. I think it was, I think it was
- 2:04:59Olivia and I didn't pre-order anything from Olivia.
- 2:05:04And when it got into big bad we were talking and then I said OK
- 2:05:09babe, I got to get this way. I got to get some of these
- 2:05:10figures and she was like she's and she's budgeting now.
- 2:05:13She's like, OK, pick 3 and I'll just pick them.
- 2:05:18Just make sure you like make sure you don't like them.
- 2:05:20You have to love them because we can't get all of them.
- 2:05:22And I'm like, OK, sorry, let's budget, let's see which one.
- 2:05:25And I'm literally looking at figures now like do I love this
- 2:05:29guy? Do I like him?
- 2:05:30Do I love this guy? Do I?
- 2:05:31OK, I need this one. I need this one.
- 2:05:32So we actually sat down and we're actually making a list,
- 2:05:37like we're going to Walmart or something, a shopping list, what
- 2:05:43I can have or what I can't have, you know?
- 2:05:47Yeah, that's tough. She had she, let's just say she
- 2:05:51had. She's a good.
- 2:05:52She's a. What 3 did you pick or do you
- 2:05:54remember? I picked Valek Bardrick and I
- 2:06:03think I OK, I think I bought, I think I bought 2 Bardricks.
- 2:06:06Yeah, it was. It was 2 Bardricks and a Valek.
- 2:06:09Yeah, got to get one to customize.
- 2:06:11Two Bardrick and the Valek. Yeah, yeah, I got one to.
- 2:06:14I got one to tear apart later on down the line.
- 2:06:17I did do some trades, yeah. To get together Bark.
- 2:06:21I got bark, yeah. And did you ever get to
- 2:06:25customize Sahara? Did you ever get to customize
- 2:06:28Sahara Serp inspire then or no? That's the one.
- 2:06:32That's a. Tough to be honest with you, how
- 2:06:34I feel it, it it is I I actually have a second one and I traded
- 2:06:41it wasn't really a trade. So I actually got my friend Jin.
- 2:06:47He's in the Cabal. He actually gifted me that
- 2:06:49figure. Oh wow.
- 2:06:51Did he give me that figure or we traded?
- 2:06:53I think we traded. I think we made a trade.
- 2:06:55No, he gifted it to me. I think he gifted it to me.
- 2:06:58And. We like.
- 2:07:00Yeah, he he is a really good friend.
- 2:07:01We made a big trade and then he ended up and he he owed me a
- 2:07:05figure. He sent me the figure with era
- 2:07:07and I was like, dude, you didn't have to do that.
- 2:07:09He goes, he goes, listen, I got like three of them and I and
- 2:07:12your wife told me, your wife told me this story because he
- 2:07:15came over too. He was like, your wife told me
- 2:07:17the story that you're not allowed to touch her, her haira.
- 2:07:20So I gave you another haira. So I was like, all right, cool.
- 2:07:23So when I got haira, I didn't, I didn't know what I didn't know
- 2:07:26what to do with her because to be honest with you, she's
- 2:07:29actually perfect the way she is. She's she's just like one of the
- 2:07:33like one of those figures where you just like, there's nothing I
- 2:07:35need to do, There's nothing I want, there's nothing really
- 2:07:37nothing I want to do. And so she I had her in the box
- 2:07:41and then legions con happened last year and I met this, I met
- 2:07:46this guy. His name was Oh my gosh, I can't
- 2:07:49pronounce his name. I forgot his name.
- 2:07:53But anyway, he was asking, he asked me if I could do a
- 2:07:56Commission for him. And I said, what was your
- 2:07:58Commission? He said, I just want you to take
- 2:08:00this Hera serpent Spire head and fix the eyes because he had got
- 2:08:05a Hera serpent Spire from somebody, but it was a factory
- 2:08:09misprint. So like the eye.
- 2:08:12So one of the eyes was printed on the cheek and then the other
- 2:08:16one was like a place. So it was like completely.
- 2:08:19So I said, I said I think, yeah, I think I could do that.
- 2:08:22I said, but it's not going to be exactly the same as, you know,
- 2:08:25the factory. He goes, yeah, I know.
- 2:08:27But you know, I just can't have this hair in my thing.
- 2:08:29So what I did was I ended up not even doing it.
- 2:08:32I ended up just I said let's just trade.
- 2:08:34I said I'll give you the head of my extra Hera and just give me
- 2:08:39that head. Oh.
- 2:08:39Nice, yeah. I'll just do it like that.
- 2:08:41Oh, very cool. So he so I just gave him the
- 2:08:43head and he gave me his, his. Yeah.
- 2:08:46And then you can customize it down the line if the inspiration
- 2:08:49hits. Exactly.
- 2:08:51Awesome. Exactly.
- 2:08:53I reckon we might get a a version 2 of Hera at some point.
- 2:09:00It'd be nice, yeah, Giovanni says.
- 2:09:02It'd be difficult to top her. Maybe some some soft goods.
- 2:09:06And now the way they did the soft goods is obviously a little
- 2:09:09bit more premium than the original soft goods, but.
- 2:09:14Yeah, Cut. Yeah, Kind of like the figure
- 2:09:16that they just did a version two of the What's the girl's name?
- 2:09:21She's Blue Zaza. No, I'm not.
- 2:09:23Yeah, as a as a. Spirit vendor as a as a spirit
- 2:09:26vendor. Yeah, and the second one, the
- 2:09:31second one is great, isn't it? It is.
- 2:09:33The first one was beautiful, just as beautiful.
- 2:09:35Yeah, you know. Yeah, the first one was a little
- 2:09:38bit more simple build in that, you know, it looked I think it
- 2:09:43was just in a in a smaller wave, it might have stood out more,
- 2:09:46but because it was in that massive wave with all those
- 2:09:48female figures and all that the the 42 figures in that way, it
- 2:09:53kind of just blended in. And it was only a bit later when
- 2:09:56people were like, oh, this one is cool and a lot of people
- 2:09:59mightn't have pre-ordered her. And so I think people are going
- 2:10:04to make up for that now for sure.
- 2:10:07The second yeah, yeah. So that's, I think that's kind
- 2:10:10of, if you were going to see another Harry, you might see a
- 2:10:12bit of that and, you know, maybe a bit more ornamental stuff like
- 2:10:16that stuff from a best at the, the gourd thing here on the, on
- 2:10:20the, on the neck and torso. That would be pretty cool as
- 2:10:24well. Similar to that, yeah.
- 2:10:28I would love to see her with with her with her hair down
- 2:10:31because her she is talking. Oh yeah.
- 2:10:33Oh, yeah. That would be cool.
- 2:10:35Yeah, yeah, yeah. They could do a lot with a lot
- 2:10:39with her. Yeah, Just depend on.
- 2:10:41And she's quite important to the story, so that's definitely
- 2:10:44another reason why I could see her coming in.
- 2:10:47But yeah. And is there any figures you're
- 2:10:49really looking forward to then that we like that we've
- 2:10:52pre-ordered already so the last few waves.
- 2:10:54So that's. The entire Necronomicus wave.
- 2:11:00Oh my gosh, I was, I was, I was praying.
- 2:11:05I was like, man, another friend of mine, Chris, Chris, we were
- 2:11:08talking and I was like, for the whole year, we just talking
- 2:11:10about, you think they're going to have an allegiance con?
- 2:11:13We were like, man, I hope they have an allegiance con.
- 2:11:16And we just got closer and closer and we're like, we
- 2:11:18haven't seen it on the water yet, but but it's not going to
- 2:11:21be there. We, we, we that's but I mean
- 2:11:26that that ship has sailed. But yes, I'm still looking
- 2:11:31forward to the to that whole that entire wave.
- 2:11:34That wave was great. You know that cold January after
- 2:11:37Christmas? I know it doesn't get that cold
- 2:11:39down to Florida, but maybe a bit colder than normal that January
- 2:11:43after Christmas. This coming Christmas hopefully
- 2:11:47the Necrominus be hitting the the post box.
- 2:11:51That would be pretty sweet. I think it wasn't.
- 2:11:53Didn't we get something this year as well around January?
- 2:11:57I know that we have had a couple of the bigger waves arrive
- 2:12:00around January. I think a Lithia was maybe one
- 2:12:02came around that time. It's always nice to get
- 2:12:06something just after Christmas that you've ordered two years
- 2:12:08ago. So it doesn't.
- 2:12:11Come out of the budget? Yeah, no, the poor guys that
- 2:12:15ordered them. Big bad toy store?
- 2:12:16That might be a different story. I wanted a couple.
- 2:12:20Of extras, a couple of tuberculae from big bad SO.
- 2:12:25I I pre-ordered, I actually pre-ordered a few from from the
- 2:12:29pre-order for them from Nechinopagus.
- 2:12:31So I don't want to wait too long like the big bad guys.
- 2:12:36Yeah, that's going to be. They've been pretty good though.
- 2:12:38They they've been pretty good. They've, it's been like, it's
- 2:12:40really not much. It's not, it's not much of AA.
- 2:12:43Wait, you know. No, don't.
- 2:12:45That's true. Yeah, there's it's normally it
- 2:12:48was the month after or something.
- 2:12:50It's been pretty solid. And then you got also bunch of
- 2:12:53other retailers, some of them are very quick, you know, the
- 2:12:56day that they're allowed to ship, whatever the the retail
- 2:13:00date, boom, it's gone. Lots of people getting them.
- 2:13:04So that's definitely a big improvement on the past.
- 2:13:07But Giovanni, do you have anything else for us before we
- 2:13:13head on further on the road to Leeds?
- 2:13:14It's gone a few more weeks now. You're asking do I have anything
- 2:13:19else? Yeah.
- 2:13:25Not really. Just stopped by my table.
- 2:13:28Yeah, I have some. I have some new heads that that
- 2:13:30some people haven't seen that no one's actually seen yet.
- 2:13:33That's pretty much it. So you're, you're behind us.
- 2:13:37What number is that? 15. 15. 1515 I think it is.
- 2:13:43Oh yeah, you are right. You're like.
- 2:13:45Right. That's right.
- 2:13:46Yeah, that's right. We got the.
- 2:13:48Yeah, we'll be. We're the first alliance.
- 2:13:52The first alliance, Yeah, yeah. First Alliance.
- 2:13:55Yeah. Yeah, Stefan was just saying, he
- 2:13:58said the first alliance. I was rolling.
- 2:14:00Did you guys watch the show when you say that?
- 2:14:03I was like, oh, he said. You're 15 and we're kind of just
- 2:14:06diagonally behind you, so yeah, you're right beside.
- 2:14:11Chris, it's going to be fun. Directly behind Immortal.
- 2:14:15You know those guys as well, obviously Tristan and Carlo.
- 2:14:19Moral Collections. Oh, yeah.
- 2:14:21Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Those guys.
- 2:14:23Great, great, great, great, great, great people.
- 2:14:28Yeah, absolutely. My heads are hard to paint.
- 2:14:30Like I have this from them who gave me gave me last year and Oh
- 2:14:35my gosh, I mean, beautiful heads.
- 2:14:37Oh, the only head, Yeah. They're they kind of scare me
- 2:14:40though, because I know once I start painting this thing, it's
- 2:14:43probably going to take me about a week.
- 2:14:48Turn into an obsession. It'll be in your dreams.
- 2:14:51It'll be you'll be thinking about it.
- 2:14:52And you'll be like, oh, maybe I could do it this way.
- 2:14:55Maybe I could add a different color.
- 2:14:57Oh yeah. Yeah.
- 2:14:59Yeah, but you know, they're good, an awful lot of talented
- 2:15:02people and you were definitely one of them, Giovanni.
- 2:15:05So we can't wait to and I'm really happy this year because I
- 2:15:08didn't, I didn't get to hang out with you that much last year.
- 2:15:12So being right near us in the tables, that's going to
- 2:15:15automatically fix that. So if we can.
- 2:15:18I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to tell you guys right now
- 2:15:20it that's every year, you're not going to be able to hang out
- 2:15:23with anybody long enough. They might as well just go ahead
- 2:15:25and say just when we see each other, we appreciate the little
- 2:15:29bit of time that we'll have with each other, you know, because
- 2:15:31we're just going to you know how you know how it is you guys
- 2:15:34been. There.
- 2:15:35Oh yeah, for sure. I mean and.
- 2:15:37Everyone says that. Once Friday night comes and it's
- 2:15:41set up, then it's like a boom gone.
- 2:15:44It's Sunday evening before you know it.
- 2:15:46Yeah. That's for sure.
- 2:15:48So, yeah, don't spend too long in queues.
- 2:15:51Hang around, talk to people. That's much better.
- 2:15:56Yeah. All right, Giovanni, thanks a
- 2:15:58million for taking the time. And good luck over the next few
- 2:16:00days. I know there's not going to be
- 2:16:01some nasty weather coming your way, so hopefully you managed to
- 2:16:05avoid it. Yeah.
- 2:16:07Will do. Thanks man.
- 2:16:08Thanks for having me guys. No problem, right?
- 2:16:17There you go, there's our interviews for this week.
- 2:16:19Hope you enjoyed the show. That was a pretty fun times.
- 2:16:25Some great interviews again there.
- 2:16:29Some great interviews as well, let's be honest.
- 2:16:32Oh, well, you know, we know that they already, don't we?
- 2:16:34So yeah. Thanks guys.
- 2:16:36Yeah, yeah, no problem anytime very good.
- 2:16:41So look forward to a bit more next week and we're going to
- 2:16:45have lots of other awesome people.
- 2:16:47We're actually doing a load of interviews next week for the
- 2:16:49next upcoming episodes. So pray for our Internet
- 2:16:53connections, pray for our voices.
- 2:16:56Yeah, Rich is the the big finger crossed there.
- 2:17:00And pray for our guests that they managed to get to us in a
- 2:17:05good way. So that should be exciting
- 2:17:07coming over the next few weeks. A couple of more Road to
- 2:17:09Allegiance cons and then we'll be there almost 4 as you listen
- 2:17:14to this almost 4 weeks to legions Khan a month it's.
- 2:17:22Exciting. It is.
- 2:17:24Very exciting. Yeah, I'm being to get a bit
- 2:17:26giddy now. Yeah, Aren't we all?
- 2:17:29Aren't we all radio? So as I just find the outro
- 2:17:33music, you know that would be be a good idea.
- 2:17:41I haven't listened to this one for a while then.
- 2:17:46Since Rich is reading something, I'll say stay safe out there.
- 2:17:51Oh yeah. I was I was waiting to the end,
- 2:17:54but Aros and the Ogre Liberty. So that's in Welsh this week in
- 2:17:58celebration of Wheels birthday. Yeah, happy birthday, Quien.
- 2:18:02Yeah, last week. And today we'll be recording.
- 2:18:14Yeah, I laughed there because we still have interviews to do for
- 2:18:18the episodes. That's going to be fun.
- 2:18:20That's why I said it. I'm leaving this in, yeah.