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Weekend Recap as Iowa State rolls K-State & Iowa clubs Oregon, Bill Seals talks Cyclones · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon as we
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start our week right here on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent Condon and Kendaller for the next two hours talking
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sports with you. Thanks for spending some of that
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time here with us. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. We will talk Iowa State with our
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friend Bill Seals at the bottom of this hour.
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Obviously basketball in the news with Bill and football stuff as
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well. Bill Seals coming up as we dock
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Cyclones at 12:30. Scott Dockerman kicks off hour
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number two. We'll talk to Doc about a couple
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of things basketball and in a lot of college football
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conversation actually went through the exercise ranking
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every big a big 10 football game next year and already into the
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mock drafts as he's now part of that to beat over at the
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Athletic as he will cover the combine.
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So a couple of topics for Scott Dockerman to kick off the second
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hour of the show and then we're going to head north to the Twin
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Cities, catch up with our friend Dane Mazzutani, who covers the
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Vikings for Saint Paul Pioneer Press.
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Well, with the change of leadership, was Questi out the
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door, the general manager. Now, some of the stories and
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some of the reasoning and some of the stuff that we weren't
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Privy to starting to trickle out or leak out just to the maybe
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the power struggle that was ensuing behind closed doors.
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KOC perhaps not in the McCarthy cap as strong as he let on.
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So we'll talk to Dane Mazatani about that and get some picks
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from Trent before we get out of here.
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Circus sports sponsor those. Away we go.
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How was your weekend? Weekend was good, busy running
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around, had a little wrestling tournament as Jack finished off
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the season one final wrestling tournament for the year.
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Got beat up a couple of times. So he's he's ready to put the
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wrestling shoes away until next season after taking a couple of
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disappointing losses for Bug Bad.
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But yeah, good, busy, a lot of basketball, obviously at the
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forefront of things. Definitely missing some football
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and well, it's Groundhog Day again.
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Yeah, You know what? I never got into that.
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I still not understand what it's all about.
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Somebody comes out, he puts on a top hat and he holds.
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What is that? Animal Puck Satani, Phil A.
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Groundhog A. Groundhog.
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OK, And he holds it up. And what are we supposed to do?
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So if the see the shadow, Yeah, six more weeks of winter.
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All right. He saw a shadow.
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So you buy that? No, of course not.
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I mean, what a racket, Yes, but it gives.
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They're excited about it this morning.
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Where are they? Yes.
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So the guy with the long coat in the top, is that all he does for
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the whole year now he's done for the rest of the year?
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I'm going to guess he has a different job.
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You think? Yeah, I would think so.
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I never. I never I think it was a thing,
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but anyways. You like the movie though, at
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least, right? I never saw the movie.
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What? I have no idea what movie you're
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talking. About Groundhog Day?
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No, with Bill Murray. Never saw it.
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You like Bill Murray, Really. I'm not a big movie guy.
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Well, I don't that. I definitely don't that.
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Well, it's an old timer, but maybe you missed the window on
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that. One maybe?
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Is he a Ghostbuster Bill? Yes, I never saw that one
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either. Caddyshack.
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Yes, that's it, Caddyshack. Anyways, I saw some basketball
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over the weekend. Some really good basketball,
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some really, I mean, this Iowa State team, it's almost like
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we're watching November basketball.
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They're just toying with their opponents.
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This K State outfit is just plain.
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I get they were with they had all their guys, right?
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I think their lineup was back intact, but it's just, I guess
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it's a good thing to add Haggerty on the floor because
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other than that they would have got absolutely destroyed.
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It's a good thing they had Haggerty in a 34 point loss.
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I know, and I mean, he was the only one that was was doing
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anything. They crushed this team crushed
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him in the first time they were up 30 after the first, not to be
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fair, 29 after the 1st 20 minutes.
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But it's just one dude after another.
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This Manchillovich, what story he's writing.
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What a story he's writing. I was going to say he can't
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miss, but that's hyperbolic, obviously.
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But he doesn't miss very often. No, not at all.
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And another performance where this time he improved by going
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5:00 and 9:00, but barely because he's still shooting 59%
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from behind the three-point arc. It is something with the volume
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that he's doing it. It's unthinkable to be able to
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shoot at this kind of level with the volume.
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You kind of run out of superlatives and like you said,
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it feels like these crappy non conference games.
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You're doing this against conference team.
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I don't care how bad anybody is. You go on the road and you do
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this. That is eye opening.
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Just absolutely obliterating people.
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And yet we have these conversations.
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We look at this Iowa State team, I think last year is having
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everybody pump the brakes. This team we were talking about
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Final Four national championship contender.
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How'd that feel? When they were 15 to one, they
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were seventeen to two. We were having those kind of
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talks and then suddenly that a three-game losing streak.
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It started with that weird game against Arizona.
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Oh, I do. Yeah.
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Didn't mind that. Was that the game on?
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Chilovich hit one at the buzzer, But after the buzzer, was that
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the one? Maybe not.
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No, there was like a it was 1/2 court shot by Arizona to send it
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to. Overtime.
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Oh, that's right. Yes.
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That's what it was and lost three in a row, including that
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one. And then we started all right,
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coming back the other way and stopping that conversation.
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In between in that three-game losing streak was the K State
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loss that they had a home. Right, that was ad scratcher.
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Brendan Hassan was heavily involved who will get together
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in a little bit in that one that all of a sudden slowed the roll.
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And I think because of that though, fans and media like are
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not willing to say, but this team, we should stop that.
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This is a final four contender. Doesn't mean they're going to
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get there. Doesn't mean it's a lock.
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It's a one and done tournament. We know what can happen, but we
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need to have that conversation. Is it is it just the DNA of Iowa
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State fans? Is it what we've seen in the
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past? Too much.
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I think last year kind of yeah, hangs over the the this year's
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team to an extent just because we were having those
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conversations and they looked like it.
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I, I don't know, Trent, this this team is better.
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This team is just better, you know, from from the starting one
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through 5 down. Lipsy's healthy as he's as he's
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been. Heisey's making his shots last
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night are yesterday afternoon. Bateman's going crazy.
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Polita, I keep seeing him. He's figuring it out.
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I'm with you, Mon Chilovich. Here's the thing about Iowa
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State. 28 assists on 33 made baskets.
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That's bananas. It's unthinkable.
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It really is sharing the ball, playing well.
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One question I still have is Dom Nelson, is it still the injuries
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just kind of stacking? No, that's a fair question.
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Because he's played a couple minutes.
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In the last. But after missing the two
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previous games with the injury, is it just that is is because
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he's had two different ones and I don't know that's the one that
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I I still, I guess kind of scratched my head about.
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But you can't argue with the results, right?
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And the results right now is this is a dominant team that has
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will finally start to figure out a little bit more about these
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squads of the Big 12. They are in a great position to
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win regular season crown. I yeah, I don't think that's
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without the realm possibility 1 little.
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Bit, I mean, Arizona is undefeated, Uh huh.
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But their schedule is going to ramp up as well.
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Yeah. I mean, there's a ramps up.
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Well, so does Iowa State. Yes, they they are.
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It's back loaded and and for the better.
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I can't wait. Gets us ready for March and gets
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those teams ready for March and in their case Kansas City ahead
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of time. Just phenomenal conference to
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watch Jefferson doing what he does.
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I still think his turnovers, there's a tad couple many
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turnovers for Jefferson you like to see, but he's just I don't
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know. I'm I'm picking nits.
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That's what we're trying. That's what we're trying to do,
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right? There's so they're so good.
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There's so much fun to watch. And Valentine's Day at a sold
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out Hilton Coliseum, when Kansas pays a visit, Peterson will be
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there, will be playing. Well, we don't know.
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Let's talk about Iowa before we go to the phones.
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And if you're on hold, hang in there.
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We will get to you. I love the Sunday night game,
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first and foremost. I think it's outstanding.
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I wish there were more of them. I got to start with Fulgaris
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because that arrow is clearly pointing up and it has been the
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last little while. I love his game trend.
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I've got something here. He's figured out, I think, what
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McCullum wants to do. He was so good last night.
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I thought that overall that was his best game as a Hawk.
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Is that fair? I think so, because it wasn't
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just that he knocked out a couple threes.
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That was a bunch of rebounds, yes.
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Very few turnovers. Had a great pass in there, had
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three assists and one of them just an absolute beauty.
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The confidence that he's playing with and you can see it, it's
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it's starting to click with him. Speaking of confidence, Cooper
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Koch. Looked good yesterday.
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He did and that was an assessment right after what we
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talked about the USC game, passing up the open shot, what
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was going on there. They needed the light bulb to go
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on with him. He's good on the defensive floor
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and continues to prove there. But what you can get out of that
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with that, they need another shooter out there.
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And certainly when fool Garris isn't in there, they need that
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kind of thing and Koch definitely can provide that.
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Just such a weird game last night because, I mean, you go
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through and you look at the starters, Kilcombs didn't play
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very well. Had a couple of shots in the
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rim. He only played 18 minutes.
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Yeah, Manois, 13 minutes. Yeah, that's normal for Manois
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though, right? Yes.
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KBM banks only 11. What's going on there?
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Because after the game McCullum said he's hurt and he likened
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it. And I just saw Sean, darn it,
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and I meant to say I meant to ask him.
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So apparently it's the same injury that he had last year at
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Drake. OK.
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Well, Sean would probably know, or he can get some, you know,
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some whispers, do you know? No, no, I just heard the quote
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that was in I saw. Lystico's tweet and said this
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sounds more serious than maybe that we're that we're reading it
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or along those lines. And Lystico wasn't at the game.
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He was covering the women on the West Coast.
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But he did say that there's there's something there.
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So we'll see as they stay out West and take on take on
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Washington D Clock tip perfect 10:00 on Wednesday night.
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Love it. You know well.
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You you can be excited about your cracking Sunday night
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games. Yeah, I'll be excited about a
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late night Wednesday game. Excited about DVR ING.
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The second-half of that game is to watch the back of my eyes and
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get up and watch it. Austin was unbelievable.
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He was good and it wasn't just knocking down threes late in the
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game. But there were some long threes
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late in the game he was knocking down.
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He's got range does. He yeah, he sure does.
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But you saw him when he went in the first half and there was a
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play, it wasn't just spot up shooter.
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He took the ball inside, got into the paint.
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He did that a couple of different times.
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The versatility of skill set and that's what you need to play.
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We know about the defensive end, it's getting better.
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But another component and this goes hand in hand I think with
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Fool Garris, both of these guys, remember both of them this
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summer, they lost a ton of time and everybody does team
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building, everybody does camaraderie.
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It does feel different the way McCollum has his team together,
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but reading between the lines, you know when fool Garris went
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with the Spanish national team. That was August.
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No, it was earlier than that, was it?
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Yeah, I think it was June. July.
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But reading between the lines and there's no quote out there,
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just hearing McCollum think he was a little annoyed, maybe by
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that, trying to get a guy in there for the first time.
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Well, maybe it's starting to click with him.
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Hassan, he was hurt. Those open practices that we got
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during the summer and the people were there, he wasn't a part of
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it. He was banged up.
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It looks like he's lost weight. He certainly looks quicker than
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he did at the beginning of the season.
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And if Hassan could do that, give you 810 minutes a game,
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come in for a four or five minute stretch each half knocked
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out a three pointer and at least be OK on the defensive end of
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the floor. Every time he was in there, I
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watched him on that end. Just watching.
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That was all that I was looking for to see how lost is he.
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And he was OK. He was OK.
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There are going to be matchups when he's out there defensively,
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other teams are going to hunt him, but he is at least better
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on that end of the floor. And now you're also talking
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about guys that don't have the wear and tear that you normally
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do with two pretty important pieces when we get to this
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point. We talked about hitting the
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wall, we talked about with that with Gooper.
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Gotcha. That is another component that I
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like about this squad. It's coming together.
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The schedule remains easier. This is a big one, though, also
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for Washington coming up as they're on the outside looking
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in for a tournament. The resume is actually OK for a
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12 and 10 team, but this is one of the few opportunities
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actually Washington's going to have for a Quad One victory.
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They're going to be ready too. This is going to be an important
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game for them. Washington After these next two
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games this week, they'll be favored in every single game the
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rest of the way. Flirting with double buy in the
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Big 10 tournament. Oh yeah, yeah, Top 8 will get
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you the single buy and I don't think they can get to that level
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though. When top four, no.
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But scheduled front of them? Probably not.
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Probably not because the top 4 you got to be 14 and 6.
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Yeah, no, they're not going to get there.
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They're not going to get there. That means they've.
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Already surpassed last year's record or tied last year's
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record as far as. Wins.
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Last year they had 17. They're 16 and 5.
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Right. So they're on the precipice of
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getting there. Good stuff.
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All right, we'll get to your calls here coming up.
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If you'd like to chime in 284-5966, what you saw over the
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weekend, touch on the woman's game.
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Not a very successful, successful trip for Jan Jensen's
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training team out to the West Coast as they lost back-to-back
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games. Get into that Bill Fenley and
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his Group One. That was a really cool tribute
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to to Fenley. Did you see that?
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Yeah, I love that. That was really good.
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And I like the fact that they brought in some of the, you
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know, the old coaches, some of the in particular Kim Mulkey.
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It was it was really good. And she had some good things to
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say because she's not really well liked with with opposing
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teams, women's college basketball team.
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But that that was really good and a really nice tribute.
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I'm glad that they did it. Let's get Jeff in here.
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He's been very patient. Jeff, thanks for holding.
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How are you? Good, a couple quick things last
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year, Arizona game, that was a Kayla Blubb keeb against Arizona
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#2 Manchilovich, that shot you're talking that was against
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Baylor on the road. Couple 2 quick notes there for
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you. So, you know, we talk Iowa State
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and we go round and round and you know, it's one of you guys
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talk about this, you talk about a Final Four, and I think that's
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all valid. But when's the last time they
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beat a quality opponent? Is it Purdue?
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Yeah, that would be the answer, yeah.
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Maybe UCF? They they've played 10
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conference games and they've played one team in the top 6.
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It's just the way they're toying with them.
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They're doing what they're supposed to.
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Do It's not just winning, they're dominating teams, yes.
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Well, they're dominating against lower level competition if if
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you guys. Are still Big 12 still Big 12 if
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you. Think it's a Big 12.
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I understand that, but it's a it's a set, you know, bottom of
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the Big 12. Like what are we?
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What are we? You got again?
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You say that, but what are we? What are we learning?
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Yeah, they're dominating. OK Are they going to do that
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against Kansas on Valentine's Day?
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And then, you know, they're coming right back to Houston at
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home, both home games? Like are they going to do that
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against now domination? No, but like, don't you?
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I don't want to hear what people say.
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Well, they were little complacent or you know, they
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haven't really played anybody lately.
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I don't want to hear those excuses coming down the stretch
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here. Like I think that's.
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Fair. That's fair because you do have
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to go back to Purdue. But when they did have that one
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quote test on the road, they passed with flying colors.
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I mean, Purdue was the number one team in the country at the.
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Time. You can say the same thing right
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now, Jeff with Duke, who's Duke beat over the last two months.
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That's worth a crap. I totally agree.
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And you could say the same thing last year with Duke, with with
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all those NBA talents, what they didn't play anybody and what
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they do in the tournament. So I understand that.
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I'm just saying from an Iowa State perspective, I hope that
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they're ready to go. I to be honest, as a fan, I
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don't. I mean, yeah, you could say
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Final Four, but until they play, we ran through this schedule and
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and I'd be kind of curious what you guys think with it.
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I think it starts at TCU and then you go Kansas, you got
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Houston, you got Tech, you got Arizona, you get like you got
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BYU. I think I just named 16.
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So they're all quad ones. What in your opinion, what do
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they got to? I don't think, what do you think
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they'll go through that stretch? If I said four and two, would
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you sign up? For that in a heartbeat, yeah,
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in a heartbeat with that, with that competition, I think, you
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know, here's the other thing Jeff, I think the other schools
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that you just mentioned, they would probably sign up for a
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four and two because it's not top heavy.
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I mean, you look at you look at Texas Tech, I mean, they, you
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know, we didn't really know what well.
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We'll get a good look at them tonight as they host Kansas.
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Well, they, well, they just lost Saturday.
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They did used it out and that was a big game.
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That was a big win for you. We're talking about, you know,
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who's those teams outside of that top 6.
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It's Central Florida. I think it's got to, it's got to
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be them. Let's have a good day, yeah?
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Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate the call.
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Yeah, I said that before the Iowa State, before Iowa State
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killed them. And killed them.
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It's a fair thing for Iowa State to bring up, well, who they
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beat. But I mentioned Duke, you look
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at Florida who was great against Alabama but before that and
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played anybody either. That's also a team that has 6
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losses on the season. And Florida though Todd Golden,
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a dude can coach Kenny. That was impressive against
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Alabama. What they did you go through
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though in this backlog and? Who's Arizona beat in Big 12
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play? I know they beat Florida to
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start the year. That was pretty good.
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Big scalp right off the bat. Right, their best win Curtain.
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UConn. Well, that's.
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The BYU game. OK, Yeah.
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That was one if you. Put and that was a Monday night
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where they hung on right, had a big lead and hung on last Monday
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I think. Their second best win though in
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conference play at TCU, who's at best the 7th best team in the
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conference. I mean, that's their second best
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win. That's how back loaded it is for
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the Wildcats. And that's just as a whole.
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It feels like we still are waiting.
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You look at a team like Yukon, the biggie stinks this year.
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It is brutal. And you know, Villanova's
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probably propped up as a third best team.
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Villanova's not very good. I I watched them a handful.
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You've been saying that all. Year, yeah, they're, they're,
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they're a disappointment certainly of what we're used to.
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Obviously Villanova under Jay Wright and and what we think of
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that program. I think this is a conversation
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with so many different teams as we just we don't know.
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We don't know. The SEC is down, the ACC is
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down, The Big 12, well, it's deeper in terms of raw numbers.
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Top Heavy. But yeah, the the middle is
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worse than it normally is and the bottom is awful.
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And that's not what we're used to in the Big 12.
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Certainly in the 10 team iteration that we do with this
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conference, that has completely changed the equation as well.
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It's conferences as a whole, teams as a whole because of this
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back loaded schedule that so many of these conferences have,
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it feels like we don't know at this point and maybe opens up
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the number and we went through the exercise last week who can
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make a final four. We need to throw North Carolina
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in the mix. I think we crossed them off.
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I don't think. So I think we had Florida
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crossed off, I've been impressed by.
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Carolina, they had a nice win, you know.
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I there may be even more teams. And then we didn't even talk
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about kind of the also the NC State.
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Is Florida on your list because Condon's playing well?
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Again, Alex Condon's a stud, my 7 foot Australian cousin.
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So he we talked about, we talked about the Iowa State's 6 pack of
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games. Would you sign for four and two?
18:58
Here's Arizona's seven games. They've got Oklahoma State and
19:02
then a week from tonight at Kansas home to Texas Tech, home
19:06
to BYU at Houston at Baylor, home to Kansas, home to Iowa
19:11
State. So with the exception of the
19:13
Baylor game, there's seven games in there or six games in there.
19:17
They'd sign for 4:00 and 2:00. I think so, yeah.
19:20
And this is this conference. And if they go through and we
19:23
just we don't know with Arizona, it's been a long time ago since
19:27
they've taken on the upper echelon.
19:28
That's that's where it is. And from the Iowa State side of
19:31
it, when you come back and localize it and you look at Iowa
19:33
State, you can say Pooh, Pooh Nah.
19:35
They're just they're beating bad teams.
19:38
But it's the fashion that they're doing, yes.
19:41
And then they get a little bored and start playing with their
19:42
food. They kind of do in the second.
19:46
We were criticizing because, and it's true, they did have some
19:49
slow starts, but now they're just coming out of the gate and
19:52
just kicking, you know what, and taking names.
19:54
And then the second-half rolls around, it's like, yeah, we'll
19:57
let them make the run. I'm sure they got lit up at that
19:59
at halftime. We'll let them do their thing.
20:01
And then they just put them away and and win by 30.
20:04
It's it's just amazing to watch this team and how they perform
20:08
and how damn good. That they are and, and, and I
20:11
think they're going to remain so.
20:13
But yes, there's going to be another loss or two on the
20:16
slate. I would be surprised if there
20:18
isn't. It's it's going on the road in
20:22
the Big 12. And they did that yesterday and
20:24
they just crushed. But they didn't do it when they
20:26
were in Cincinnati on the heels of a game against Kansas, right?
20:32
I can't wait for the Kansas game on Valentine's Day, see if
20:35
there's a little comeuppance. I'm guessing that there will be
20:39
real quick, real quick. We probably should get to the
20:43
not the elephant in the room, but we got a touch on this.
20:47
He was wrong again. What's that about his squad?
20:51
Wrong about a Stephen M? Simple.
20:54
Oh of course, I told you right after the interview finished up,
20:58
this is the easiest bet ever. This is the best team in the Big
21:01
10. They're going to blow out with
21:02
Illinois. They're a really nice team.
21:05
They're a nice team. They're a nice team, They're a
21:07
nice. Team.
21:07
They're not a top ten team, no. Illinois is a better team.
21:10
Oh absolutely Illinois. Nebraska when they played over
21:13
in Champaign, that was a hell of a basketball.
21:14
Game was an eye. Opener was that not It was a
21:16
big, it was a lot of points scored like 9087 or something.
21:20
I think there was a lot of. Points 83. 80 yeah, 3 point game
21:25
that was I just couldn't believe what I was watching.
21:30
I just kept ringing in my, I could, I know it, sip.
21:34
God bless him. Let's get John Cannon.
21:37
He's got something to chime in about.
21:39
Hello, John Cannon. You wish you were in San
21:40
Francisco this week. No thanks.
21:44
And a little earthquake today they do just a little, a little
21:48
temblor that the natives won't notice, but people that are in
21:52
there from all over the country and the world, I'm sure did.
21:57
So no, I'm actually calling about well, two things.
22:00
I, I, I just hope Brock Purdy gets the credit he deserves for
22:05
the resurrection of Sam Darnold. And Sam Darnold is the guy that
22:10
if you sit and ask him, he will give you credit.
22:12
He will give Brockford credit. He'll tell you that story.
22:14
And he was telling it while he was still with the 49ers when no
22:17
one knew what he was going to do in Minnesota.
22:19
No one knew there was this big reclamation going on.
22:22
He just said I have learned more about preparing and playing
22:26
quarterback from this kid then I learned in all my years in the
22:31
NF. Li did not know that, so thanks
22:32
for sharing I. Didn't see that.
22:34
Yeah, that and that's why. And then now you look at Mac
22:36
Jones and you look, I mean that that backup quarterback spot is
22:40
going to be a launching pad for for quarterbacks.
22:46
Oh yeah, no, absolutely that that too.
22:49
It's a great system that they also learned and and the fact
22:53
that they've got Jones on a 2 year deal and it doesn't look
22:55
like they're going to be letting him out of it.
22:56
So they want him for next year. He's not going to be doing one
23:00
year things with like he did with Arnold.
23:03
But anyway, I just wanted to mention that.
23:05
And then on, on this thing with what college basketball, here we
23:08
are this late in the season, we don't know who anybody is yet.
23:11
Well isn't that because of the transfer portal?
23:14
In part of it, yeah. In part, yeah.
23:16
I mean, at least it's basketball.
23:17
It's it's different than football.
23:19
It's it's a sport where it really takes time for guys to
23:23
play to learn how to play together.
23:25
And and you can't just drop in a bunch of talented players and
23:28
and have it work out all you know, immediately it'll work
23:32
out, but it's going to take time.
23:34
And I think I think that you guys are right that that we're
23:38
still a month away from really knowing who's good.
23:42
And it's also coaches. You've heard about Villanova.
23:44
All of a sudden Jay Wright leaves.
23:46
And that was a problem before when a coach would leave, But
23:50
it's a big problem now because how you how, how is he going to
23:55
recruit? How is he going to do in the
23:56
transfer portal? How, you know, all those
23:58
questions are, are much bigger now when you're trying to
24:01
replace AJ Wright than they were, you know, 10/15/20 years
24:04
ago. So I just thought I'd.
24:06
Thanks John, appreciate the call.
24:07
Enjoy your week. Let's take take a break.
24:10
We'll come back. We'll be joined by Bill Seals on
24:13
Iowa State. Before we head to break,
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with Trent and myself and then throughout the afternoon with
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off the bench with Sean and Lucas.
24:40
Miller and Condon, we're underway on our Mondays, the
24:42
Iowa Sports Radio Network. I'm Miller and Condon, welcome
25:02
back just past 12:30 on a Monday with you here until 2:00.
25:07
Scott Dockerman from The Athletic covers college football
25:10
for The Athletic. He will join us. 1:30 We'll be
25:15
joined by Dane Mazzutani. Try and get a little insight
25:17
into what's going on. The power struggle that is now
25:20
becoming public between perhaps Koc and Kwesi Adolphobensa, the
25:24
general manager. One one in One Direction, the
25:26
other one in a different direction.
25:28
Apparently the Vikings thought they had Drake May on draft
25:31
night. I wonder how that would have
25:33
gone. That turned out in that fashion.
25:35
And there was a there's a lot of talk that JJ McCarthy was headed
25:39
to the Raiders and the Darnold was going to stay, but Questi
25:43
did not want that. So we'll find out from Dane if
25:45
he's got any insight on that when he joins us at 1:30.
25:48
But let's talk Iowa State right now, shall we?
25:50
He's Bill Seals. He covers them for
25:52
cyclonereport.com, part of the rival slash on Three Network.
25:56
Hello, Bill. Happy Monday.
25:57
Trenton. Ken, how are you?
25:59
I'm doing great, guys. I appreciate you having me on.
26:01
Yeah, good, good day so far. Lots of lots of good stuff over
26:05
on Cyclone Report. Well, I'm anxious to to catch up
26:08
and find out, dip my toe in that.
26:09
But let's start with basketball first of all.
26:12
And then I would state the men get the whole week off right?
26:14
They don't play till Baylor's at Saturday or Sunday.
26:17
It's Saturday, though, they they had a third kind of that unusual
26:21
Thursday, Sunday sequence. And then that feeds into that,
26:26
that midweek buy that's kind of been built into the schedule now
26:29
that they dropped down to 18 Big 12 games.
26:32
Well, you certainly can't hurt, but let's talk about what we saw
26:35
yesterday in the Octagon. It was just a complete
26:38
walloping. It's it's hard to find something
26:41
to be critical about, right? Not that that's what we start
26:44
every conversation with, not looking for the downside
26:47
necessarily, but if it's there, we're not going to hide it.
26:49
But it's not there. I just, I don't want to say it
26:51
was a perfect game, but man, oh man, Bill, I don't know.
26:55
I mean, what's TJ going to try and coach him up with after
26:58
this? They watched the film of this
27:00
game. Well, that's a good question.
27:02
Yeah, you, you look at these last few games and, and not a
27:06
lot, not a lot has gone wrong. I mean, it it that you know,
27:11
maybe the, the, the, the lag and play a little bit the
27:14
second-half against Oklahoma State.
27:16
But that was the 4th game in a row.
27:18
And Iowa State LED in the Big 12 opponent by at least 30 points
27:24
now. And in two times in those four,
27:26
it's been in the first half alone.
27:29
So, yeah, they're on on some kind of roll right now now.
27:32
And, and again, this is the the the part of the schedule where
27:35
they needed to have results like this.
27:38
We've been talking to you guys. We've been talking for weeks
27:41
about Valentine's Day, Kansas, how this schedule turns for Iowa
27:46
State. And this is a stretch.
27:48
They've got two more games here to quote UN quote, put the hay
27:51
in the barn. You know, they've got Baylor
27:54
Saturday, they've got TCU the following Tuesday, that TCU game
27:59
in Fort Worth. Far from a Gimme so, but they've
28:02
got two more opportunities here to get that what would be like a
28:05
quad, quad 2, quad one wins and then things really flip on on
28:11
February 14th as the the stretch run beckons against the the best
28:15
of the best in the Big 12. Well, as we're looking to find
28:19
anything about these dominating performances, we kind of go
28:22
deeper in the bench. It's back-to-back really good
28:24
games from Dom Pleeta. We talked a ton about him
28:27
throughout the course of the season.
28:29
Feels like the light bulbs probably coming out for him.
28:31
Starting to figure out exactly what it takes to play in the Big
28:34
12. The other guy off the bench
28:35
though, I still wonder about Dom Nelson.
28:37
Is it injuries? Is it just needing to get back
28:40
into kind of the flow of what they're doing offensively, or
28:43
has they just been squeezed out of the regular rotation?
28:46
I think he's been squeezed out of the regular rotation that
28:49
you, you, you saw though during stretches here so far the, the
28:53
first half of the season, there will be moments for him.
28:56
It's turned out that those moments of mainly I think come
29:00
in the first half when he has played a, a bigger role.
29:03
But yeah, I think he's just been squeezed out of the rotation.
29:07
We, we thought maybe that rotation would be 9 players that
29:11
as it's turned out, it's, it's primarily been 8 with the, the
29:14
five typical starters. And then you've got Heisey,
29:17
Bateman and Plata coming off the bench.
29:20
And those three bench guys have very, very productive.
29:24
They, they combine for, well, those 3 alone combine for 21
29:28
points yesterday at Kansas State and you're able to get that kind
29:33
of production out of those three bench guys and, and the, the
29:36
five starters that the main, well, the top three of those 5,
29:41
the scoring output, you know, those guys keep cooking and Iowa
29:45
State's going to be in good shape more times than not.
29:48
We had a listener tweet at Trent and I say that Nelson's lack of
29:51
minutes perhaps predicated on his inability to do defensively
29:56
with TJS, asking is there anything to that, do you think,
29:59
Bill? Well, yeah, I think that there's
30:02
a drop off from him to Bateman. Bateman's been a pretty good
30:07
defender. He's really come along and you
30:10
know, obviously Killian Torre, they're not going to dock him
30:14
much minutes wise what he what he lends.
30:17
So I think it's just probably the odd man out there with
30:19
Nelson and what we've seen from Bateman Torre, you know, even
30:24
though they're not really an identical position match, even
30:27
Heise to and and what he's able to do defensively.
30:31
So I think it's just it is it's a byproduct of the the defense
30:34
with Nelson. And you know, the other thing is
30:37
with the Utah Valley transfer, he's a he's a drive.
30:41
He's a guy that likes to get into the lane, likes to finish
30:44
around the hoop and energy guy on that offensive end, but he's
30:48
also not shooting very well at the free throw line.
30:51
So when you're calling card is is getting to the hoop, getting
30:55
some easy buckets and also getting to the foul line, but
30:58
you're not being all that great of a free throw shooter and
31:03
maybe that's another detriment for him as well.
31:05
And Bateman's a freshman and these are good minutes for him
31:07
so. And he is not shy when he comes
31:09
into the game, he is ready to go and and love that about his
31:12
game. And Bill, you talked a little
31:14
bit about the schedule this year, the weird Thursday,
31:17
Sunday, as Ken brought up and there is a Sunday game coming up
31:20
this weekend as well. There's also a Thursday night
31:22
game this week, couple of times in February when they move back
31:26
to an 18 game schedule, more flexibility, get a little bit
31:30
extra rest here during the course of the season.
31:33
Also TV windows. We saw TNTI was watching
31:35
Arizona, Arizona State on Saturday for a while over there.
31:39
Is that maybe also a part of this too?
31:40
And getting those TV partners and different windows for them
31:43
and different opportunities? No doubt about it.
31:46
That's, I think that's one of the big, one of the big factors
31:49
and, and I think in the past too, that Fox National window on
31:54
Sunday. I, I, I wasn't really watching a
31:58
whole lot of Iowa State college basketball on Sundays the last
32:01
several years. But I think a lot of that was
32:03
devoted to Big 10 men and then probably a lot of women's
32:08
basketball coverage as well on Sundays in the past.
32:12
And I think the Big 12 and getting into those slots, that's
32:16
a big national slot. And it was the first Sunday that
32:19
we haven't had football either. So I would imagine the ratings
32:23
that Iowa State drew, so granted it was against an also ran in
32:28
Kansas State on the road and it was a blowout, but probably good
32:31
viewership, I would imagine, all things considered.
32:34
So a nice addition there for the Big 12 getting into that.
32:37
And yeah, I think they're also they're they're going to gain a
32:39
lot out of this midweek buy that they're getting here and then
32:44
getting again, getting off of their feet for a little bit.
32:47
They've had some opportunities. They had that Saturday at
32:50
Oklahoma State and then didn't turn or they got out of
32:53
Stillwater that and that night before the the snow got worse
32:56
and they got off their feet for some time and they had the
32:59
Thursday game against Colorado. So they had a couple
33:02
opportunities here to to get this team as fresh as it can be
33:08
for when the schedule's really going to turn here in about a
33:11
week and 1/2. Speaking of opportunities,
33:14
excuse me, I wonder what kind of opportunity Montilovich is going
33:17
to have once the season comes to an end, what pursuant to where
33:20
he wants to play next year. We all be that in Ames.
33:24
Or does he, you know, dip his toe in the NBA waters because
33:27
that's been rumoured. I mean, when he first got to
33:29
campus, you started to hear that tag come along with him that
33:32
this guy's got an NBA type of body, NBA type of game.
33:35
Well, obviously it took him a couple of years in college to,
33:39
you know, to really figure it out.
33:40
But my good God, that some of the numbers he's putting up, the
33:43
historical numbers that he's putting up.
33:46
Is there any of those talks yet, Bill, that you know, because we
33:49
heard about Toure, the Toure is going to have a decision that he
33:51
might be a 1 and doneer. I hope he's not.
33:54
Obviously, I'd like to Manchilovich to come back as
33:55
well. But what are Are there any talks
33:58
about Manchilovich's and his pro potential after this year?
34:03
Well, I think that's something that he's probably going to take
34:05
a look at. No no doubt there's already been
34:08
several entities that have released these top 30 draft
34:13
prospects list that obviously Josh Jefferson's one of the
34:16
highly rated ones. The Killian Torre was in a list
34:20
that I had had linked on my site last week as well.
34:24
Milan, though not I believe not in the top 30 of of that so but
34:30
still regardless, there are gonna be some lists that he's a
34:33
part of. But I think the good thing about
34:36
Iowa State, it's kind of funny. I I still I can't believe we we
34:40
talk about this, but Rev share money.
34:45
Iowa State's probably going to have a an increased pool of that
34:49
money with Josh Jefferson moving on that Tayman lips he's a
34:53
senior. Both those guys got raises last
34:56
offseason. Again, kind of funny we're
34:58
talking about this. But yeah, I mean there's going
35:00
to be some flexibility there for Milan if he comes back to get a
35:04
nice raise and you can no doubt count on the Killian probably
35:08
getting a nice bump as well as Bateman.
35:10
So, and they'll go to the portal, they'll need to to get a
35:14
few guys and, and we'll see how that goes.
35:16
But I think there is the the pool of money there to retain
35:21
the core of this team. And they they really need to to
35:24
get Milan back and Torre Bateman and, and, and keep that core of
35:29
players with this class of freshmen coming in a a good one.
35:34
We've had a ratings release on got an outline of that on my
35:37
front page. So keep that core together
35:40
freshman class and and maybe a couple guys that they'll
35:43
probably look to add in the portal.
35:45
Over to the women who I guess they're falling apart was
35:49
greatly exaggerated right forward to row, including a road
35:52
win against the top 25 team against Texas Tech 2 parter.
35:56
What has changed here as it just figuring out how to play minus
35:59
Addie Brown and then secondly is there hope for her coming back
36:03
this year? Well, I think it's no, I think
36:06
it's no mystery that this turn around coincided with Ariana
36:10
Jackson coming back. To be honest, I think she is a
36:13
glue player on this team. She played 38 minutes in that
36:18
win against Texas Tech. The other the other day had 18
36:22
points, 6 of 12 from long range. They're they're going to win a
36:25
lot of games When you've got what you're well, when, when you
36:29
factor in Addie Brown, she's there what their 4th leading
36:32
scorer Ariana is and she comes out and has a game like that.
36:36
So I think it's it's been a combination of yeah, Ariana
36:40
Jackson, what what she can do offensively, She's a player that
36:44
the defense has to account for. She's probably the top defender
36:49
on on Bill Finley's team right now.
36:51
No, no doubt about that. And then and probably I I would
36:54
imagine some, some reevaluation of how this team is going to
36:59
want to going to want to play moving forward with Addie Brown
37:02
out indefinitely and the the other the other day against
37:06
Texas Tech and and pretty impressive when they can go on
37:09
the road, as you mentioned, beating a A rank team in the Red
37:12
Raiders like they did. And and you had Addie Brown or
37:15
excuse me, Audie Crooks until the last minutes of that game.
37:20
She didn't have her double digit streak stretched 93 games till
37:26
the latter moments of that game. So it was a a huge one for
37:30
Ariana Jada Williams continues to be on the upswing.
37:35
So yeah, I think this team may be re imagining itself here at
37:40
the the midway point of the just past the midway point of the
37:43
schedule and getting some some good play and stringing
37:48
together. Now at 4-4 games there in a row,
37:51
they've come out on top. Yeah, you're you're 100% right.
37:54
Audie Crook struggled but Williams and Jackson there to
37:57
pick him up at or pick her up and and listening to Finley why
38:01
he's he's really non committal about even when she Eddie Brown
38:04
is going to be able to return to practice.
38:06
I'm starting to think Bill that might this might be long term,
38:11
more long term than was not sitting.
38:13
That's necessarily is being led on than anybody knows about
38:16
right now. We shall see where it goes
38:18
football wise. Any news?
38:19
I know that the coach is making his way all over the state
38:24
meeting, meeting Iowa high school kids, which is good to
38:28
see that they're getting involved that way.
38:30
What? What have you got football wise
38:32
from Coach Rogers and the company?
38:34
Yeah, mainly some recruiting coverage right now.
38:37
They were not one of the teams that their programs that had the
38:41
any junior days in the month of January, how February is a is a
38:46
dead period. So the next time we're going to
38:48
see any visits, it sounds like Iowa State will have something a
38:53
junior day type of event on on March 7th.
38:56
So about a A45 well, five weeks stretch here of of of no on site
39:03
visits. So but yeah, I mean, they they
39:05
did make the rounds the last couple weeks of January, these
39:08
last two weeks got out on the road with that made a few new
39:13
offers re engaged with several you mentioned in state guys at
39:18
the the the previous staff had offered got around to those guys
39:23
to try to make some new connections there at a story up
39:27
this morning just across the border.
39:30
But Omaha kid Wyatt Leben treat that had received an offer over
39:36
the weekend from Iowa State. It sounds like he's going to be
39:38
on campus next week. So something up on him and I've
39:42
also talked to to several other guys on that list of, you know,
39:47
either re engagements, kids that have been offered or new offers
39:50
over the weekend. So lots of lots of good football
39:54
recruiting coverage as usual coming up at Cyclone Report.
39:58
Good stuff. Bill Sills, thanks for doing
40:00
this. Have a great week.
40:01
Thank you. As well guys, appreciate it.
40:03
Yep. Thank you, Bill Seals as we
40:05
check in on Iowa State, our final time out.
40:07
Scott Dockerman kicks off hour 2, Miller and Condon on the Iowa
40:10
Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome
40:20
back. Final couple of minutes, Hour
40:22
one of our program, Scott, Dr. Man, Dane Mazatani and hour
40:26
number two. Is this supposed to be Doc's
40:27
music? It it?
40:28
Well, kind of. Yeah, he, I'm sure he's a Ozzy
40:31
fan. Black Sabbath Watching the
40:33
Grammys last night with the wife and they had a tribute.
40:36
Post Malone sang this. It was really, really good.
40:38
He sang this song. Yes, and had the family are in
40:42
the front row, Sharon, Jack and his daughter who lives just down
40:46
the road from us. What?
40:48
You know, I saw that one, yes, Indianola or something.
40:51
That's what I thought. Kelly lives just down the road.
40:54
Maybe she's a daily listener. Well.
40:55
You never know. A lot of people are.
40:57
We're grateful. Hour 2 coming up next.
40:59
Felt old watching the Grammys last night.
41:01
So I never. Saw them, don't know them what?
41:03
Time was it on? Like 7 to 11.
41:06
Was it? Yeah.
41:07
Never saw a minute of it. Not surprised then no one was
41:10
on. Hour 2 is next.
41:12
Scott Dockerman, Dane Mazatani, Trent's Plays of the Day, Miller
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