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- Shamus: Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of the pork roll egg and cheese podcast. My name is Shama. And this episode is brought to you by scooper heroes, pet waste removal. Need your dog poop picked up, scooped up and removed? Give Andy and Barry a call at 609-288-2568 or you can contact them at hello at scooper heroes, New Jersey.com. Herbie: And I am Herbie. Yeah, they scooped up Shamus: If you can't, if they're not answering anything like that, I'm going to take a picture of this and put this up on our website so you can contact them through there. Also want to give a shout out to Jason, Andy and Dana from the exciting and new podcast. Make sure you guys are giving them a listen. They just dropped another two episodes this week. That was last week. They're doing a soul man. So never seen it. No, you never seen it. Never seen. Herbie: Did gung-ho, right? And then do. ⁓ that's right. Soul man. Good movie. It's good comedy. Shamus: Well, today is well, actually last week by the time you guys hear it'll be last week. But today is National Take Your Kid to Work Day. You ever go to work with your one of your parents her back in the day? Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, I did. ⁓ my mom was ⁓ a nurse in a nursing home. So I went there one night over and spent the night over there, which was cool. Got to see, know, cause like she does night shifts. So like we left in the morning and, my dad, ⁓ got me a job, like a summer job and, in New York, he worked in a high rise building on park Avenue. And, ⁓ the cool thing about it was like the NFL building actually used to be right across the street from the building where I was. Shamus: spent the whole night? Yeah. is dope. Herbie: Yeah. So like, you know, like the people that would go on vacation during the summertime, I would be like the, the porter and the freight man that worked in the lobby that filled in for the guys that were on vacation. It was, was an awesome job. Pretty much like, it's almost like, ⁓ you go out there, you, you clean the cigarette butts off the walkways. You know, you wipe the glass windows, you know, you, you get the freight guys would come in. you have one elevator and you put up the padding and stuff like that to bring up, ⁓ Shamus: reporter in a Freak Man. Herbie: freight elevator stuff to supplies to the other ⁓ to the high-rise building. That was cool man. A lot of pretty ladies. It was a great job. ⁓ Shamus: to see you being like, playing, you know, like Peewee Herman in his movie when he was the bellboy. He just turns around looks he does not right now. Herbie: You have a telephone call at the front desk My dad actually he worked at the front desk and he was the fire safety director for the high-rise building So he was in charge of the command center and I was basically like the Kind like the custodian the general reporter type guy like for the lobby that would just clean up the lobby and go outside and make sure like the front of the our building with the curve is that you know, it's clean of like debris and stuff like that. No, it was cool man. It's nice job Shamus: I wonder if they still do that because back in the day like you see all them old movies They're always out there with the hose. ⁓ yeah, you know just washing off the side Herbie: Yeah. Like I said before, ⁓ my dad would have like, ⁓ some other buildings in there that would be like, you know, like, ⁓ allied Irish bank, was Kuwaiti airways in there and there was another record. There was a record company in there. So sometimes there would be like celebrities like kiss would came in their makeup was a scene and you know, Bill Cosby, Nick cage was there when he wrapped up a movie because there was a lot of filming in on park Avenue. So You know, they do a lot of, you know, wrapping up of, um, films and stuff there. And Nick cage asked my dad, if he wanted to come over next door for Fridays for free food. And my dad was like, I'm good. Just could care less about all these celebrities. Shamus: I know you said he was I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast I know we talked about before he he had a beef going with LL Cool's day Herbie: Yeah, you got to sign the book and like I said before you my dad was like in ⁓ a low budget Movie, I believe it's a Russian movie So it's all like, you know dubbed and stuff like that. So basically my dad was the Pee Wee Herman, know But he didn't have any speaking lines He just like had the the book and the guys the big gangster guys came in to sign the book and go up and see the lawyer that That worked in the building Shamus: Sign the book! We gotta find that movie. Herbie: I don't know what the hell the name is. I think my dad has a copy of it. I just got to find out the name of it. like the, course the name of it is in Russian and I'm not really good at Russian. So I'm going to to Google translate or something. Shamus: Ladies love Cool J from Mr. Broward. Herbie: No, he do not. Pop don't give a shit. Yeah, my mom was a nurse and she worked night shift and she had a fellow friend of hers that worked the same shift. So she brought her daughters. Shamus: But you said you spent the night at a nursing home? Herbie: And to work and I went with mom, she's like, ⁓ the kids are to be there and you're off to school tomorrow. So, you know, come on in and see what it's like to hang out in the nursing home. So we basically stayed in the, almost like the, living room of the nursing home area. This was in Hamilton back in the day. So, you know, just stayed in the TV room, hung out, had snacks, stayed up all night. I mean, granted, you know, sometimes, yeah, sometimes you'd see like some little runaway old person, like what a walker trying to, trying to make the great escape out of, out of there. But, um, that was cool. But, you know, it definitely smelled of old people. You know, it like, it almost smelled like that, like moth balls. It was like a combo of moth, moth balls and doilies and medical. Shamus: stuff. And those big tins of cookies they used to get with the little pretzel one in there. Herbie: It's like the blue tin like when you open it now, so it just has like knickknacks of like, you know Spools of like thread and some other like batteries all that extra crap. Yeah Shamus: That's pretty cool, Well, my father, when we lived in Philadelphia, he had a body shop and it was literally, I guess there was like a couple of Roe homes that burnt down at one point and they knocked like three or four of them down. I don't think my dad did it, but somebody put like two car garages there. And then when we bought the house, it came with the garages and he turned it into an auto body shop and he literally walked right out the front door. took two steps to left and he was at work. So most of the time it was, you know, when I got a little bit older before we moved out, I think I was eight when we moved in April of 85. But like when I was six and seven, I started getting into cars and stuff and he would actually, you know, whether I was home from school or if it was in the summertime, he would have me like tape up the cars before he sprayed them or showed me how to mix up all the fiberglass and what the hell is that shit called now? Bondo all that So, I mean I constantly spent time with my father, but my mother worked at the IRS over in Philadelphia in the Boulevard and Talking to her before she passed away She did like 38 years there Yeah, she started in like 71 or 72 as part-time help for Taxes. Yeah, and she said like back in a day like there was no computers. There was none of this shit so they had like this way like Amazon warehouse size things of just desk and just rows of people. And they would just put a stack of fucking tax returns from. Yeah. And you would just start going over them by hand. I was like, Oh, God. Could you imagine? I mean, just to return on that, like, yeah, just. If you did your taxes in January and turn them in, you probably get back to July or so. Yeah. But she started part time and then she ended up at one point in the 80s, she was. like the the head like one of the heads of like the computer like all the stuff you see now like TurboTax. Yeah. All them programs. Yeah. The IRS started doing that back in like and she was at the head of that. Like she helped develop all them programs and shit. So she took me to work twice. I went one time just to see, you know, what's going on. And when you're in the IRS and you're doing taxes and numbers and stuff like that, that is the most boring you should on planet. Herbie: smart. ⁓ sure. Shamus: But you you just try to suck it up. Like, I didn't want to be the guy. You know, shut up, shut up, shut up. You know, I just kind of like sat there and went, yeah, this is great. I'm talking to myself, man, I am not doing this shit. All her coworkers were cool. We got to talk to some of their kids We got to hang out. So it was pretty cool. The second time she took me, it was for a special Olympics event. And I went as a volunteer to help out. And that was pretty cool, man. That was it was definitely eye opening. when you're, I think I was like 12 or 13, 14, like you're, I've never been exposed to any of that. but like to see it on a grand scale, it was pretty cool. But one of the things I do remember was when they all went to lunch, like all the kids that were involved in the Special Olympics events, like this maintenance dude comes over to me and he, you know, it was almost like groundskeeper Willie, and he was just like, all right. We're going over there and play some soccer, dude. You want to go? And I was like, sure. So we go over to this field and one dude's like, yo, fuck. Because they had this giant earth ball thing. I mean, it had to be 12 feet. And it was like for the Special Olympics events like they were. But I mean, this thing was gigantic, Kirby. It probably wouldn't fit in his room. It is gigantic, man. Like I don't even think I could have picked it up. Herbie: like one Shamus: ⁓ so they were just like, ⁓ fuck soccer. Let's play Earthball. And I was like, what the hell is Earthball? And they're like, you just start pushing this thing, dude. And the other team tries to push it. You got to put all right, man. I'm pushing. And you ever see them videos where two people run and hit the ball? Yeah. Of dude, gave flying on the other side, hit us and like four of us just like I had to be at least a story in the air, dude. ⁓ it was fun though, man. But I man, I was beat. Herbie: and just bounce right off. Shamus: up after that shit. Herbie: We gotta find one of those balls, man. Maybe it's on eBay or something. Shamus: And all my mom's like, you might not want to sign, I think you have a concussion. And of course my dad, how the fuck you get a concussion from special limits? Let me find out one of them dudes. I was like, no, motherfucker. I was like some grown ass man. Herbie: Yeah. You got your ass kicked. That would be cool though, man. I don't know. Maybe, maybe eBay has like one of those things or something, man. Cause how cool would that be to have the backyard barbecue party and then someone just rolls out this big goddamn. Shamus: Dude, it was the big I to this day. I haven't seen a ball that big and it was like it had the consistency of like a kickball or like a dodgeball. So, dude, it had to be a story in the air. It was that like some dude got stuck to it as they rolled and he grabbed it and he was just like, ⁓ like, ⁓ we. Herbie: Yeah, but it's freakin' humongous. Oh, the only thing I got kind of close to that was my buddy of mine had a big party. was like a camping jammy jam thing at his house. So he rented like a inflatable water slide, rented a moon bouncer and he rented one of those like those sumo suits that are like like the big heavy duty sumo suits where it's like you can be attacked by a bear and like you're good. So we use that and those things are heavy as hell and it has like an inflatable thing in there to be able to... We were like bouncing off of trees and everything dude with the big like know sumo helmet thing. Shamus: Put it this way, you ever see them balls that people climb into and then they run at each other and shit? It was twice the size of that. Herbie: ⁓ I found a 40 inch inflatable diameter ball. ⁓ damn it. It's got to be bigger. ⁓ we need one. Shamus: Now, do we're talking like 10 feet nine. But anyway, it was good to, you know, go volunteer and check that out. But yeah, she worked at the IRS. I wanted no part of that. I was more leaning towards doing what my dad did and building race cars But yeah, but then he was just like, no, you're going to be a cop. ⁓ Thanks, dad. So really got to say what I wanted to do. ⁓ Herbie: That's more fun and stuff too. He's like, dang. Well, you know, like as a kid, what did you want to be when you when you, you know, when you were a kid? Shamus: Well, to be honest with you, and like I said, I kind of did want to be a cop, you know, because when you watch all those movies, when you're kid like Dirty Harry, Beverly Hills Cop, Cobra, ⁓ you know, all them great cop movies are just like, man, Leasel Weapon was another big one. What's a gay man? I want to do that shit. Herbie: Yeah, hang off the back of a truck that's like running and stuff ⁓ Shamus: Or know, tell a jumper, do you want to jump? Jump? I was like, man, sign me up for this. Are you bad? I'm not going to tell you stories that some of the guys don't tell you, but you just ain't right. Herbie: was gonna say, I can see you doing that, He's that guy. Shamus: I used to do some off the wall stuff, especially with the state. Yeah. But yes, I mean, like he he kind of pushed me in that direction anyway, because one thing that both my parents always push was like, a you need a pension and you need medical. I don't care what it is. But the kids down the street and we talked about them doing the wrestling thing. Their last name was Oattsall and they were all. The oldest one was Mark. don't know what he did in the all the army. ⁓ Brian was my brother's hero. ⁓ He was infantry. think Greg was infantry. know Brian was with the 25th in Hawaii. Greg was with the 82nd. The one guy that my dad really liked, the one kid, Scott. Yeah, Scotty O'Toole. was he was an MP. Really? Yeah. And my dad was just like. guess what you're doing when you get older. And I was like, I guess I'm joining that and every McKnight male had ever been in the military. So that's cool. I was like, yeah, I guess I'll be an MP. But then with the cop stuff, I was just like, yeah. So, you know, I needed to get a pension and I needed to secure medical and schoolwork definitely wasn't my cup of tea. So it wasn't going to be that route. The educational route kind of deal. ⁓ It was probably going to be something blue collar. ⁓ My dad also said if you if you're going to do something in the trades do something that people will always use and need ⁓ refrigeration, heating, air, electrical. Yeah, job security. So I mean, they were both very smart in that aspect of it, like kind of not training us, but pushing us in that way. ⁓ But like me and my brother were like, yeah, I'm not fucked as we'll just go be cops. So and that's what happened. Herbie: security. Shamus: ⁓ when I, what I wanted to be, and like I said, ⁓ cop thing was cool. I saw top gun and I was like, sold cause I loved going fast. I love racing cars and stuff. ⁓ you know, like I my dad built, like when we moved over to Jersey, he kept doing it. He kind of got away from the. Like the auto body part of it and started building engines and drag cars and stuff like that. ⁓ he did work with, it was kind of like an intern thing, but you know, he had pictures with John force. was on that team for a minute. ⁓ He dragged bikes, anything that would go face. He was all about and hey, man, I'm here. Let me get up on that sound bit. So I we'd go to Aco all the time. And I love going fast. So when I saw Top Gun, I was just like, dude, you can't go much faster than that shit. Yeah. I was just like that. So when I was old enough, I stomped into the Navy office or the Air Force Office at first. And they were just like, yeah, Navy's got more fighter pilots. And I was like, well, fuck yous. It. Went down to the Navy and they're just like, ⁓ Herbie: speed. You Shamus: your grades suck. And I was like, yeah, it's because I'm lazy, dude. And like when I apply myself, I'll be all right. So he was like, take the ASFAP and we'll let you know. So when I took the ASFAP, he was like, ⁓ you you got the grades for it. He was like, all right, let's do some physical shit. And this was ninety five. Yeah. And this is before like the LASIK thing really took off. And he was just like, first of all, you're just a kind of bit too tall because you had to be a certain. He was like, but we could probably squeeze in there, but your eyesight kind of really sucks. Really? Yeah. You have to have like almost perfect vision to fly those back. And I was like, shit. So I got up to walk away and he like, well, we got other things. I was like, fuck that. You know, I'm getting on the boat if I'm capable of flying off it. So it's all there is to it. I'm out. So I went down home. Yeah, I guess I'll be an MP. Why not? Yeah. And they were like, well, we don't have MP. And I was like, well, fuck you. Herbie: Yeah, dude, yeah. Shamus: And the Marine Marine guy stuck his head out. He's like, we got MP. And I was like, absolutely not. Two days later, that army recruiter was like, hey, we found the spot. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure you did, asshole. I'll help you on tomorrow. Sign the papers. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ So she was like I want to go fast. I'm gonna go fast Shamus: Yeah, dude, And you know this when you first met me, it was nothing but Mustangs, motorcycles, quads, dirt bikes. Oh, yeah. All about it, man. Just I almost killed myself in one right around the corner from the wax car factory. Yeah, but. Yeah. Herbie: Yeah. Thank God you didn't me I was there that I chose. ⁓ yeah, it was Shamus: I was always in something that was going way too fast. Herbie: I've been in some stuff where I almost got chopped up by a tugboat when I was on it using a jet ski. There's so many other times I would have died too. I'm glad we both didn't die. Shamus: ⁓ me too. Yeah, cool. about you? What did you what did you want to do when you young? I mean, everybody knows you want to be Spider-Man and an engine. Herbie: Originally when I was a kid I Oh yeah, definitely. was like, yeah, that was, that was like, yeah, we definitely wanted to be that. But, I did have a thing for like, uh, I liked art. So I wanted to be like, you know, an artist, like maybe draw cartoons. Um, also like, you know, loved pets and animals. I, you know, there was a back, back in my mind where I wanted to be a vet. I can draw, but not as good anymore. I used to draw, but it's just like my, I'm, I'm decent. can draw. Like if I look at a picture, I could draw it. Shamus: Can you draw? Herbie: But as like freehand just drawing and my, my drawing is just like two dimensional and it lacks depth, lack shading. It's just like, went to college for like a little bit and I did pretty good, but like I did, like I said, it was like an order for me to do depth and shading and stuff. It's just. Shamus: was gonna say, somebody critiqued Herbie: Like I, I, I personally knew that cause like when I was a kid anyway, that was a lot of times I would make my own toys. Like out of like paper and cardboard and build like little nights and castles and stuff. Even draw like little kid comic books and did like a Voltron one. I, course I did a ninja comic book, you know, cause I was always, ⁓ into like doing like little arts and crafts at home. So like, my mom was always like that type of person, like here's some stuff arts and crafts keep you busy. go to the library, read, stuff like that, cause you know, we didn't really have tons of money, so if there was toys I couldn't really get, I'd basically make, you know? That was fun. But you know, I also loved pets and stuff and I wanted to be a vet. And I forget what else I wanted to be. Shamus: That would be cool, man, but I would be so fucked up like when when when animal like when my animals die, dude, I it's I'm on console. Herbie: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, I'm Yeah, me too. I'm still not over mine either. And I've always had pets before I even brought back one of the dogs was stillborn and I actually resuscitated her and. Wow. Yeah, this is like a long time ago. And kept her, you know, it was like I had like two dogs and like they had babies and like, it's like a big litter. And I was there for the birth for like all of them. And the one was stillborn. Shamus: Good job, bud. Yeah. Herbie: And just like activated her and actually we performed CPR and did like, you know, the, light breathing into the mouth and like cleared, you know, cause a of times like the dogs, we had a dog house, but sometimes they would, in order to protect the babies and anything that would like dig underneath the dog house and have the babies there. So yeah, resuscitated her and. kept her until she passed away too. Like, you know, the parents of course were the first ones to pass away and the babies are kept and later on in life, they passed away and like that line, unfortunately, you know, it was all gone, but like we used to, you know, give out puppies. We used to go to the cherry hole mall and give out puppies for free. And just to make sure like, you know, the babies had homes, they were beautiful dogs and like in town, there's friends of mine that still had the dogs from back in the day. An ex girlfriend has, has a, an old dog. So, you know, I was just always into like, taking care of animals, you know, and it was cool to be able to have that ability to resuscitate the one, you know, lady. was my little puppy lady. Shamus: Okay, I'm glad you explained it because the only thing I could, my, this is how I think, my mind, you're clear! Herbie: ⁓ My watch God damn it. It cool man like basically what I did was like she was just like this newborn baby and she was stillborn so I had her like laying on her back cleared the like the dirt and debris from the mouth open up the mouth did small compressions on the chest. Nice. Yeah and like just really light breathing I didn't like put mouth to mouth because like their lungs are so small. Shamus: ⁓ you'll blow him right up. Herbie: So, ⁓ and of course my mom's a nurse too. So she was like, you know, we activate it was almost like, kind of remind me of like, ⁓ a thousand one Dalmatians where like the one was still born and just like, kind of keep growing them up and activate it and brought some back like that. Shamus: Yeah. Good for you. Herbie: Then all that crap changed and never did any of that crap. And my parents were like, what do want to be when you grow up? Like, I want to be a ninja. And actually I still kind of do. Cause like my friends that live in Japan, there is jobs out there to actually be a ninja, but it's like basically like, ⁓ There is a village where they do tourists and stuff like that. They'll do events. Shamus: It's not like one of those things where you show up at this village and I take this blue flower to the Herbie: It's kind of, like, know, you do need weapons training. or, know, athletics to be able to be able to do like flips and jumps and all that stuff. And I used to be able to do stuff like that when I was a kid. But, ⁓ when I moved to, I didn't move to Japan, but I vacationed in Japan and I made like that thing where I'm staying. Cause at first what happened was, ⁓ I took a picture of the house that we stayed at. And it was like the woods and everything. And I took a picture. said, Hey, can anyone find me? And it was me that took the picture just of the forest. So I'm not in the damn forest. I was like, can you find me? So everyone's like texting back like, yeah, I think you're behind the tree or I see it by the rock. And I'm like, these are you serious? So I just kept on playing the damn joke. So like through the whole night, I was actually taking pictures of, like the rooms in the, ⁓ the house that we stayed at. And, know, I was like, Hey, can you find me in this window? Like, Hey, you're behind the shower curtain. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I really are going for this stuff. So the whole time when I was in Japan, I would actually almost do like a day or every other day update of like, you know, I went to the EGA village. Uh, I met, I met the main sensei. Uh, I did a weapons training. passed a contract and it like, by the end of my trip. I totally updated. said, okay, I'm done my vacation. But I found I finally got accepted into the Ninja Academy. I'm going to be a ninja. I'm going to come back to the States to clear up my affairs and move back to Japan. And all my buddies I grew up with, were like, they were texting me like, dude, I knew it. If you're going to go to Japan, I knew you were never going to freaking come back. So everyone thought literally that I became an it was even a post on Facebook. All my friends were like, ⁓ my God, I'm so glad. that you were able to fulfill your dreams. can't believe I know a real ninja. I was like, Jesus. That was great. But, ⁓ yeah, so unfortunately I'm not a ninja, but I like doing all that stuff. Shamus: I wish I could have, one thing I should have did before I retired from the state was taking some time. We were so under man, especially when COVID hit. We were so, everything shut down anyway. There was state, like I look back on life and don't get me wrong, they were right. And I'm gonna let everybody know this, especially our younger audience. If you're looking to go into law enforcement, ⁓ that's great, don't get me wrong. Whether it's corrections or, you know, police officer stuff. Make sure you do it with the state because I didn't know this until recently because a buddy my my brother's friends and some of my buddies who were cops are like local PD They're getting ready to retire and those guys don't get medical when they retire. ⁓ They get a but they got to pay for the medical. ⁓ And like me, I was shocked. I was like, are you serious? And I thought all police officers and they were like, no, man, we covered. ⁓ Nope. So ⁓ Herbie: That's not good. Shamus: Looking back on it, my parents were absolutely right and I definitely did the right thing going through law enforcement with the state. Because I got a pension in medical, but now I look back and thought to myself, man, I never got to do what I wanted. And I have no regrets, but I just never got to do anything I wanted to do or anything I truly enjoyed. Herbie: enjoy being in the military? I mean, well, especially like in real life. Shamus: Hold on. I enjoyed like it's just like anything else in life. I met a lot of really great people in the military, like even some from, you know, that area of the world that we went and shit. ⁓ Just the deployments that There was things in the military I like but then there was things I did it's just like every job, you know And I a lot of great people I still keep in contact with today Yeah, the state was the same thing a lot of great people It was good up until about ten About halfway through because I only did 20 because I bought my military time back. Yeah, so I got a 25 year pension, but uh It's just like anything else, man, like other suits take over people who've never worn a uniform, people that, you know, they go to Rutgers or, you know, wherever the fuck they go and they come in, they're like, ⁓ we know how to do this. So you're going to listen to us. And like, no, you guys don't. And then it just it starts flushing people out or people start early retirement and the next thing you know. Herbie: Got a bunch of morons there. Shamus: Yeah, you got like, and nobody wants to be a cop anymore because of the shit that happened around the COVID era and stuff and, you know, defund the police and so now you're just getting borrowed and then when they show up, I don't know. It was just but I never got to do what and I love don't get me wrong. it was a good thing to do. I just never I wanted to build like race cars or weld or, you know, because ultimately when you look back, like some people can walk like the whole McWame family, like when Leonard's tells you about all the shit that they build When you look back, like people can drive by and like, hey, dad helped build that hospital or dad put the roof on that Home Depot or, you know, mom helped build that or da da da. Me, I'm just like. Yeah, I got nothing to show for the shit. then every once in while, you get the whole that Gumby ass geek motherfucker come up to you and be like. Well, you know, if you helped one person in your life, it's all worth it. Get the fuck out. Herbie: Hahahaha! Yeah, I know what you mean though, because like, you know, there's a lot of people that are in construction and stuff. like, you see that? built that. And you're not the only person that thinks that they all do it. Shamus: Yeah, it's I don't know. I don't get it. So it's like I said, if I could go back, I'd probably take some courses and stuff when I was finishing up my career and then do something I wanted to do. I know it's not too late because I transitioned right into the SRO thing, which is law enforcement. And I told myself when I retired, I never read Badger again. here you are. was way too good. And I was, know, it is. ⁓ So I don't know. Herbie: Yeah, like, actually, for me, like some of the different jobs I had was like a lot of retail, because I like people. So it's like my job was always retail, you know, like working at the mall, worked at a grocery store. ⁓ I actually worked for the guy that does the flex seal. You see him on the flex seal commercials. Yeah, I feel so flexually used to work for him. But actually, that's how working at that job was actually how I got to meet the rest of the guys and how I was able to tie into. meet you guys and you guys be a part of my life. So thank you, Phil Swift for letting me work for your company for a while. Shamus: Wow, I never knew you worked for Phil Swift. Herbie: And then I, then it got me to get to the hospital and the rest of this history. just, I guess I just like, there's part of me, I just like people. So this job actually allows me to be around people a lot. If I can make a small difference, not just like for physically, you know, cause I'm not like a doctor or nothing like that. So I'm not really saving lives. have helped people that were actually in distress. at the hospital and was able for them to like help, know, like save that. had, there was, you know, a lady, a couple of people fainted or bleeding out and stuff like that. And I was able to rush them to the ER so that, know, all the, all the wonderful people in the ER was able to save their life and work the magic. But I was the one responsible for finding them and bringing them rushing him through to the ER and, know, assisted in saving their life. I guess I'd like to be able to just bring them to, the people that were able to do that. Shamus: Well, listen, I know you're not a doctor or anything, but every time I see that movie Patch Adams, you're the first dude I think of because the whole power of laughter thing is very underrated. think laughter and music are two of the most powerful things on this planet. And that's why I said, I think it was like maybe the first or second episode we were talking and you were just like, yeah, I'm in food town. I was like, do you talk up to people? And you were like, well, sometimes I walk in and on the commode. I could just picture you walking in, but you know, how we feel today. Bye bye. And you know, making people laugh and not even just the patients, but like the people you work with. Like you said, you dress up like Thanksgiving, dress up as a turkey, stuff like that. Or Christmas. You dress up. That's huge, man. That is absolutely huge. So don't ever undersell like what you do at the hospital. I'm sure morale is a huge part of it, whether you're a patient or a staff member. Yeah. So and Herbie: You're right, I am. Shamus: Ultimately, when you're happier, you heal faster. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. It's like sometimes like patients feel bad because like, know, unfortunately you will have people or even like the family members where they're losing their loved ones, you know, just going through all that negative stuff. if they have someone that kind of brightens it. And I, I do have that. didn't really want to, you know, bring it up, but it's like, it's not that I'm mad about bringing it up. It's just, ⁓ you know, I guess, you know, you know, me, man, I just do I'm the way I am just regardless, you know, but you are right there, everyone at the hospital and stuff like that. I'm known to be that that person. So they, know, they know I'm always in a good mood and you know, I bring everyone up and I'm very rarely like in a bad mood, you know, but just like anybody else, you could be in a, you know, go through a lot of shit too, you know, and it's happened where I've actually lost people that I loved and care about while I'm at work at the hospital. So It's kind of challenging to push through that stuff, but I still do it and I'm still myself. Shamus: I'm the same way at the job man, whether it's in the military. Like I said, I'm that guy like almost like the moan and look at this place. Isn't this great? I'm that kind of charge to make everything look and people are just like, will you shut the fuck or like place to be? know, people will be somewhere training or overseas or some shot and somebody would just like, you know, back in the day we had them Kodak disposable cameras and stuff and every time I like stick my finger in my nose or I make a face or. You know, or just, hey man, just something lightin' everything up or... Herbie: I know, I get it. Well, did everybody like people that know where I work here and stuff like that. They all can vouch and say the same thing about me, man. That's probably another reason why, like in our group, like we got we got connected so quickly and just friendship was able to like instantaneous. You know what mean? That's why it lasted all these years. Shamus: That and I never gave a shit about authority. So like we'd all joking around and like a lieutenant would walk in, whether it's military or state or like the chief or, you know, our sergeant major would walk in and everybody just, and I was just like, ⁓ look at this fucking beaut. What? Herbie: I'm pretty much the same. Why can't really get too, too crazy. Like I normally do with like certain people, like certain higher ups and stuff like that. But for the most part, the hospital knows like if there's like a loud, loud noise or something crazy going on now, I'm like, they all might run out real quick to see who it is. And they see it's me as like, ⁓ all right. It's just Harvey. All right. Everything's cool. Shamus: out me and my buddy, he was a driver for Sergeant Major, I'm not going to name, but we were sitting in his tent. I forget where we were at, but it definitely wasn't home. I'll put it that way. And Sergeant Major walks in and, you know, we're at ease and everybody gets up and he's like, sit down. And like me, I'm just like, I was gonna sit down anyway. He's like, what'd say? was like, nothing. So he walked away. like, and he looks at my buddy. He was like, hey, why don't you go get me a coffee? And he kind of like looked at him and I was like, he's our major. And at the time, the army slogan was there's 101 ways to be a soldier. Yeah. And he turned around. I was like, there's 101 ways to be a soldier in this army. Get you coffee. One of them. That dude and me and him used to just fight like we would just fight. Just fucking. I mean, like physically, just wrestle with it. Yeah. He was just like, it off because I had all my battle rattles. I was like, oh, you want some of this? And he would because he was He was like, sorry, Major, the Ranger training that at one point, the guy's a badass. Yeah. And he was had to be like six, three, like two thirty five. And he would just humble the ship. I always just like, you want something? Like, let's go. And like we would just and like he would have you all tied up and somebody like, hey, man, you all right? And I was like, that's right. Are you I got it right where I want to. Herbie: Hehehehehe You Shamus: But he would laugh and you know, it was just and all the troops would laugh and shit and think you'll and it wasn't hurting anybody. But yeah, if you can't laugh in life, then I mean, it's not even worth living. Herbie: agree, I'm in the same exact way, dude. And there are people out there, you know, you don't have to wait for someone at work to be the light of the life at work. Just be that light there, too. You know what mean? Shamus: And if not, at least look at things in a happy way. mean, some people they just can't because they're ⁓ just depressed or just chemically, like the way their genetics are and stuff. you know. Another thing that keeps me going is I would have loved another thing I wanted to do when I was a kid man like watching MTV. I was like, dude, I want to play drums in front of 80,000 people at Wembley Stadium the next time they do live aid and shit. Yeah. music to me is another power. You could be in the shittiest mood in the world. if walking on sunshine comes on, Dude, I'm up. I'm dancing. That song instantly cheers me up or, you know, certain songs. ⁓ If you say my eyes are beautiful by Jermaine Jackson and I forget to chicken it too. That takes me right to a specific spot on the floor of the Riverside High School gymnasium. And I'm not going to mention her name, but we're slow dancing together and we're talking. mean, it takes me. Music is a very, very powerful thing. Herbie: brings up lot of memories and stuff. Shamus: Yeah. And like I said, that's something I always wanted to do as a kid, too, because I'll never forget it was like the last concert kiss did in makeup. Yeah. Here's this it's it's a view from like it's showing the crowd, but like it's got Gene Simmons is back and they start I Love It Loud and the whole the beginning of the song was like, hey, and he's pumping his hands. And then when he gets done, the crowd starts singing back and it's just a wall away. There's one hundred and fourteen thousand people there. And he's just like at any point he could just stop the contra go, hey, go kill. like these people don't even speak English and they're singing the song word for what? Yeah. How more power? That is ridiculous. Guys like Freddie Mercury bands and all go around the Foo Fighters. They go around the world and nobody speaks English and they're all singing Everlong. Yeah. Bohemian Rhapsody. Yeah. So and it's me. ⁓ Herbie: It's a powerful energy, like the humanity can actually create that. Not just like the vocals, but also the instruments to make music. It's just like, it's, like a beautiful thing that, that humans can create, you know? Shamus: I mean, Happy Birthday is sung in every country. And all the words are the The language is different. And it might sound different, but every word is the same to celebrate the birth of a human being in every country. That's fucking phenomenal. So I always wanted to do that too. And not only because of Mute for Baffled, but the chicks. ⁓ Herbie: You actually too. I was a part of me. always wanted to be in movies too. But, ⁓ I never panned out either. I was like, I don't know. It was like, there was always have like this thing where I like, I'd like to do it, but then I'm just like, Shamus: Well, it's number two, like you said. Herbie: It's never too late. Shamus: I mean, the jerky boys did. Herbie: Yeah, the pork roll like a cheese movie, man. We can do it. Then we got to do like a Jersey Devil movie. Then we got to do like our own like we got to do a zombie flick, you know, like a survival type thing. ⁓ that'd be freaking sweet. Shamus: They have to be, no they are, Sean and the Dead. I was gonna say, they have to have a little bit of comment. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, definitely dude. Yeah, definitely. But we're kicking, we're kicking zombie ass in that. Don't worry. It's gonna happen. Shamus: That's like singing and all of a they're like at a point and zombies like Herbie: You Shamus: Like I said, what better situation than to start laughing and make music when you're about to get eaten by the undead. Herbie: I know. By the end of the world. Yeah, dude, that'd be cool. I'm down for that. So hopefully, like, you know, all you guys continue to like, like, share, us get us going so we can actually start making some crazy, shitty B movies that you guys can enjoy on YouTube and watch some little poor you can do Dame Herbie in a ninja suit trying to act like he knows what he's doing and cutting off zombies heads with a sword. Shamus: See. Herbie: Plus I'm getting older now, so I can't really run fast. So it's going to be like a lot of like, you know, action scenes from chest up. I can be a lot of running scenes or like, you know, traversing. Shamus: We'll just make it ridiculous. You'll be like, ⁓ my god And as you go to run, we'll like, you know, we'll superimpose somebody's like Hussein bolts fucking legs Herbie: We're actually wouldn't be awesome. But you more funny and get like some like obnoxiously looking different stunt double just have like some six foot. Or guy just jump over stuff and shit. Shamus: That's what saying, I'm saying both. The fastest man on the planet. He's definitely not your shade. Herbie: Yeah, like that's definitely a stunt double. It would be cool. So, yeah, keep liking and subscribing because we want to make movies too. We like it, actually, I'll know, like I'll know when we make it when our our our DVD of movies. That's right. And I want it to be like the three pack. Yeah. Shamus: ⁓ shit. Where's been a while? Sweet us the jerky boys and like a shoglautant and we'll never be cool enough to be hit Nick with a Nick cage Herbie: death warrant or something like that. Damn, I know right? Well, maybe we could be in the background or something. I don't know. Maybe we could be in the next Nick Cage movie, but like I die and you get wounded. Shamus: What was that? Jane? Back when they're doing, ⁓ what the hell's the name of that movie? What Aflac and, Herbie: ⁓ James, I'm pop. ⁓ good will hunting? Yeah. Shamus: ⁓ honey, do honey season and they're like, you guys stand right here and don't say nothing. Herbie: Yeah, actually, I'd do a movie like that. And Kevin Smith and Jason Muse are from Red Bank Jersey, so... Look, what's up? Pork roll, egg and cheese. Everyone loves a pork roll, egg and cheese sandwich. So what's up, Don't be in the background. I don't care. Shamus: He bought the movie theater. He used to watch movies in Red Bank. I know well, it's somewhere around there My buddy like I said, my buddy went to high school with them They were just in town for I Forget they were screen I think it was like the 30th and or 40th anniversary of clerks or something like that or So they were doing like him and muse were in town and because he shows movies there all the time Herbie: I always love their movies. No, I've never met the Kevin Smith or Jason Muse. I always wanted to meet Jason Muse because I think he's hilarious and stuff too. But the only one I got close was actually I met Brian O'Halloran that played Dante at the Philadelphia Comic-Con or something like that. But when I saw him, I forgot his real name. I'm like Dante. Oh, yeah. he was like. Shamus: I'm sure he gets that all. Every time Sylvester Stallone's in Philly, they call him Rocky. It's Rocky. Herbie: Yeah, he was, you know, the nice, ⁓ Brian Halloran is a nice guy and he, know, gave me an autograph and let me get a picture with him and stuff like that. It was just like a really nice guy. So, you know, if you, if you're ever listening there, Brian Halloran, I appreciate it, brother. You're a great guy. Thank you. Shamus: I was a huge fan of, know, Kevin Smith and his movies up until ⁓ I don't know. just thought Clerks Street could have been a little bit better. I didn't like I don't want to ruin it for anybody. I haven't seen it. Yeah, but I was just kind of like. Herbie: think it's more about like growing up. like, you I guess it's almost like for them to put it to rest. You know mean? Cause like when we grew up, cause I love clerks and clerks too. And clerks three was, was pretty cool, but it was like, sometimes it's kind of hard to figure out how you're going to close that one. Shamus: that and then when he did the Jane, Simon, Bob reboot. Yeah, I was kind of like, Herbie: I do love J and Silent Pop's Strike Back though, that's like one of my favorite ones. Shamus: I have they're upstairs. I just got them. It took me six months because the company that was making them. Yeah. Backward. But I got ⁓ the G.I. Joe action figurines of Blunt Man and Chronic. ⁓ really? Yeah. I'll show it to you before you leave. That's cool. So. Herbie: Yeah, man, I always liked his stuff. So, Kevin, if you're listening, man, like we just and especially like around he's like around our age show, like a lot of the references that they talk about, especially, you know, with the the illusion, the 3D mall poster thing with the with the invisible dolphin in there, man, it's just it's just brings back so much memories. Shamus: Like all the movies he did is just total jerseys. Yeah, like all the stuff that he'd like he's only like he might be more your age Yeah, I think he's my brother. I think my brother's 52 53 Herbie: Yeah, he also did the remake of the ⁓ He-Man animated series, which was really awesome too. Shamus: I know he's tied in with all that stuff. I know he's done a couple cartoon Herbie: Not for nothing, dude. Everyone doesn't like Daredevil. I like the Daredevil movie that he did with Ben Affleck. Shamus: I did too. Yeah, I didn't think it was that bad. Yeah, I just didn't like the way Kyle Farrell looked with the yeah, he should have just been a regular person. Herbie: with the maybe like that costume is sometimes like back then it was like kind of hard to do all the costumes but you know but yeah Kevin you're a great guy if you ever want to get some other fellow Jersey guys would be in the background or some crap I don't know Shamus: Yeah, thinking about it like all the movies I love. I never had any. Like, I never really wanted to be like, I love watching. Yeah. Herbie: I would totally be in it. I'm gonna be wouldn't be like a lead, but you know. Shamus: Yeah. How do you know? Herbie: I'm pretty funny, but you know what it is like for me, like that's another reason why like other friends, you know, before everyone's like, her, but you should do stand up. I'm like, I don't really have an act. And then like, they're like, Oh, just go up there and start doing it. know. But then like, sometimes I get like the thing like where you get where people just say, Oh, you're a comedian. All right. Say something funny. And it's like, Shamus: Go fuck yourself. Yeah ⁓ Herbie: ⁓ no, just like it takes it out of me. I'm like, well, never mind. Shamus: Yeah, that's something that I've never heckled anybody, whether they stunk or not, because it takes a lot of moxie to get up there and do what they do. You have to build your act. It takes time. Like these guys aren't just built overnight. You know, Kevin Hart's from the area. He's from Germantown originally in Philly and that guy years just on the scene in Philadelphia just. Yeah. So, yeah, it's it's it's something it's almost. Herbie: They're doing it for years, man. Shamus: like Hollywood, they were being a bit like you have to grind. You have to do that in the sacrifices you have to make. ⁓ So whether they're funny or not, I always just kind of know you clap it up and you're just like, man, it takes a lot to do what they do. ⁓ yeah. And I guess it's no different from what you do or what I did or, you know, what other people do. Yeah, I never I never wanted that kind of thing. I don't mind singing in a band or drumming but just never wanted to act. Herbie: I don't really have like a fear of it or anything like that. It's just like acting and stuff would be cool. Let's just... Shamus: that because I could never get away with anything when I was a kid. So was like, I'm a shitty actor. So I kind of knew. ⁓ I'll never make it. Herbie: And the Academy Award goes to not Seamus. Shamus: I'm grounded for the rest of my life, so I'll never make it out to Hollywood. Herbie: And yeah, that's definitely I'm like, I don't have the leading man thing because I don't have the looks or nothing for that stuff, man. I'm like four foot. I'm basically look like one of the below average looking hobbits from Lord of the Rings. I would like if I was like if I was like the dude at the shower, I'd probably be like the the gardener that was kind of cute but funny. So that's the only way I'd get action. I'm like like Samwise would be like a. like a grade up higher than me where he would actually have chance with the ladies more than I would. Shamus: Yeah, but all them funny guys. mean, Chris Farley will fire all. Fucking Chuds. Yeah, ugly. So we got to wrap this one up. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. I would say you could tell us what you do for a living, but I mean, we already ask you that all the time anyway. And if we find it interesting, we'll have you on the list is still growing. Herbie: That takes too damn long, ⁓ Yeah, we thank you guys for that. Shamus: Yeah, yeah. And if you have any questions, comments, make sure you like, dislike, us, listen, pass on to a friend, do something. And just let us know what you think. All right, Herb, let's get up out of here. All right, buddy. Everybody have a good day.