Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / The Triffids

Transcript

The Triffids · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

0:32
It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
0:37
band. That's right.
0:38
We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is press play
0:41
and listen. And some may call me band
0:44
curious because I, Justin, like to have my friends on to talk
0:48
about bands that they love and, you know, really kind of get a
0:51
sense of of what it is and why it is that they love these
0:55
bands. And by by that I mean I jump
0:58
feet first in and listen to the band.
1:03
You know, wherever we decide the the discography is, we go from
1:08
there and we're going to come out with a top ten circuit list
1:12
for you to listen to. So hopefully you can get into
1:15
this band as well. And you know, I'm going to jam
1:19
this one in because it was the song that was on my mind.
1:22
Bad news. Bad news always reminds me of
1:25
you. But today we're talking about
1:28
the Triffids. And if I recall correctly,
1:30
Gavin, I think after the church episode, you brought up the
1:34
Triffids to Adam. And I don't remember if this was
1:39
an assumption that you made, but talk to me about the Triffids.
1:44
Yeah, it's good to be back with you guys.
1:46
I love doing episodes with this panel, I think.
1:51
Well, so Adam and I had kicked around the tripods a couple
1:56
times after episodes that we did and I think we both like, you
2:02
know, knew them and respected them.
2:05
I'm just, I guess I'll just speak for myself.
2:07
And but like, but weren't feeling like totally like
2:12
confident on like a whole episode.
2:13
And so I think after the church we just sort of pushed, pushed,
2:19
pushed ourselves to like do it because for me, they're they're
2:24
a band. I knew that I needed to like
2:26
figure out the puzzle of the Triffids.
2:28
And so that's how that went down.
2:30
Yeah. Yeah.
2:33
So you want me to keep riffing on my deal with the Triffids?
2:37
Oh yeah, go for it, yes. So the first time I heard the
2:40
Triffids, I had bought this, there was a double CD set called
2:44
Tales from the Australian Underground and it COVID-19 76
2:50
to 1989. It came out in 2003 and it was
2:54
just an incredible compilation of so much stuff from Australia
2:59
that I'd never heard. I knew I knew a lot of stuff
3:01
from Australia, but it kind of just went into a lot of
3:05
different corners and and the Triffids had this really great
3:09
song on that comp. It just totally captured me.
3:14
But that song didn't sound like anything else that they did.
3:18
So I started checking the mountain.
3:20
I was like, oh, this doesn't sound like that song.
3:24
So I couldn't really get into them.
3:26
And then I read a book that their photographer, there's a
3:32
guy named Bledon Butcher, an Australian photographer who shot
3:36
a lot of Nick Cave stuff and like he shot like U2 and other
3:40
bands. He wrote a book on the Triffids
3:43
that was like really detailed and like really intense.
3:48
And so I read that and then I, and then I went back and
3:54
listened again to Born Sandy devotional, the record that like
3:59
has a lot of sort of press and mythology around it really being
4:03
like a masterpiece. And I guess it was just the
4:06
right time for me. And I, I sort of got that record
4:09
like I hadn't really got it before.
4:12
And then I, and then I really liked some select singles, but I
4:15
couldn't, I still couldn't like totally figure them out.
4:19
And then Adam and I both like this band from Australia called
4:24
RVG. And the singer, her name's Rami
4:28
Badger, and she was on a tribute record to for David McComb, the
4:35
singer of the Triffids who died. And that sort of like, sparked
4:39
my interest again. And so then I watched a
4:43
documentary on the Triffids that you can stream called Love and
4:46
Bright Landscapes, and it's really great.
4:50
And then this happened, which is really my first deep dive where
4:53
I just went through every song, you know, and really got into
4:59
it. I love the way you phrase that
5:01
like figure out the puzzle, cause often times that's the
5:05
position I'm in is, is figuring out the puzzle of, of what it is
5:09
about this band that, that my panelists enjoy.
5:12
And so, I mean, you know, Gavin kind of put it out there.
5:18
I feel like you said almost those exact words.
5:20
Adam, you, you said I, I really haven't done the dive on them.
5:23
I'd like to, I just haven't. So like, was this the excuse to
5:27
finally do it? Yeah, I think it was.
5:32
I mean, the trip is really well known to me and they do hold a
5:36
special place for some people in Australia for sure.
5:41
Like we've talked about a few bands now, Australian bands that
5:46
sort of got didn't get there moment in the sun, like the go
5:50
betweens and even the church to some extent, although they did
5:52
have more success, but the trippers are probably even more
5:56
more so didn't really get there their full moment in the sun
6:00
that they deserved. But but they did have they do
6:04
have a real core following and there's a couple of songs and I
6:07
don't really want to talk about songs in this part, but there's
6:09
a song in particular that had heavy rotation on, though.
6:14
I think I've talked about this before, but we have a National
6:17
Youth network called Triple J, which is probably equivalent to
6:22
the college radio scene in America a little bit, but it's
6:26
a, it's a national radio station.
6:28
So when I was growing up in the, in the, in the 90s and late 80s,
6:32
that's what I listened to. And there's, they were playing
6:35
heaps on there. I don't know if they got a lot
6:37
of commercial play, but they are now revered.
6:43
I would say they are revered as a band, a significant Australian
6:48
band and particularly a lot of the artists.
6:51
And I will, I will talk about this a bit later that we that
6:55
we've talked about already, absolutely have so much respect
7:00
for David McComb and and the Triffids and and the
7:03
songwriting. So, and there's a particular
7:06
album that is held in very, very high regard and I'll talk about
7:11
that a little later. But so for myself personally, I
7:14
knew some of the singles. Well, I actually, I'm not I, I
7:19
don't own Bourne Sandy devotional CDs.
7:22
I went through all my CDs to check, but I know I listen to
7:24
it. So I must have borrowed it from
7:26
the library or something like that back back then.
7:29
And it and it never hit with me either.
7:31
A bit like what Gavin said for some reason, there's a the the
7:34
singles I loved, but the the album didn't hit me, even though
7:38
it's it's extremely quickly climbed album, but it it's
7:43
changed now. That's one of the things I like
7:46
about this is going back revisiting things on.
7:48
I know that would fall into place for me now.
7:52
And I think I do apologize in advance that I think I will be
7:56
doing a fair few other band references to describe them,
8:01
because that's how I felt when I was listening to them.
8:03
And just, I mean, I absolutely, I absolutely loved this catalog,
8:11
like a lot more than I perhaps even thought I would.
8:14
And I just love the imagery and the theatrical nature of that
8:21
Newcomb songwriting. So there's something in that
8:23
that I think we'll probably talk about when we get into it, but I
8:27
just found it endlessly fascinating, to be honest.
8:31
So yeah, can't wait to get into it.
8:34
I love, I love that you both have kind of mentioned like it
8:37
being the right time or or, you know, listening at at at the
8:43
right time. It it seems like this was just
8:47
the perfect time for me to listen to this band.
8:50
Like, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to go out and make some
8:52
claim like, oh man, you know, they're going to be one of my
8:54
favorite bands ever. You know, it's, it's not like
8:58
that, but like I fell right in to this band.
9:03
That's how I. Call right?
9:07
I put I push play. They felt so warm and familiar
9:11
and I likened it a lot to, you know, they do even the sound at
9:17
points. But like I kept getting like,
9:21
like an Irish pub feel like a band that you're hanging out
9:24
with what they're playing at a pub and like it.
9:27
It definitely had that like that kind of warmth to it.
9:32
And again, like I, I don't want to, I don't want to make
9:35
outrageous claims like oh, favorite band ever or completely
9:39
overlooked. But like, I think this was just
9:44
the perfect time in my life to to push play on on this band
9:48
because it was just such a breeze.
9:51
And you know, there's all these different styles and all these,
9:57
all these different like. Yeah.
10:00
It's just it, it's just such a great eclectic thing and I can't
10:05
believe like I'd never like, you know, this isn't even, you know,
10:10
some perif band. This is like, I'd never heard
10:13
this name before. You guys mentioned it before.
10:17
I'm not surprised by that, to be honest.
10:22
I think, I think that this may be the most obscure band that
10:25
I've done on the show and certainly that this panel, you
10:29
know, that me and Adam have done with you.
10:33
Yeah. So that doesn't surprise me.
10:36
Well, yeah, I mean, they're not that.
10:38
They're not massively obscure in Australia because of a couple of
10:42
songs, though. I think if you said to someone,
10:45
do you know that? You know, the truth is that they
10:47
would possibly and if you said a particular song, they would.
10:50
They. Would go Oh yeah, no, I've heard
10:53
of them. Yeah, right.
10:55
Yeah, They're not massively underground here, but they
10:58
definitely don't have the back, the backing of the wife, the
11:01
church or something like that. Nowhere near.
11:05
Yeah. I guess to that to that well.
11:09
No, that's cool, Justin. It was cool hearing you saying
11:12
all that. Yeah, awesome.
11:13
So yeah, mates, I love that. Very excited.
11:16
I, I, you know, we, we took in 72 songs here.
11:21
I don't know if that's the entire discography, if that was
11:24
just what was available As you're looking at this, again,
11:27
kind of looking at the fact that there's so many different
11:30
styles, there's so, so much to kind of take in here, Gavin,
11:34
Like when you're putting together 20 for this, is this
11:37
just kind of a follow your heart type band or, or how did you
11:41
find your 20 for it? Yeah, we did.
11:44
We did 72 songs. So we did the whole discography
11:47
in terms of we did all six of their albums and then we picked
11:51
like 5 like singles, B sides, EP stuff.
11:55
So it covers 1983 to 1989. And for me, I mean, it was
12:06
really about like, it was easy. So this was easy for me.
12:12
My list was easy. I had some cuts to make at the
12:15
end, but they weren't painful. Like I kind of figured that out.
12:19
You know, I for me, like, I was more, I got more interested when
12:25
he gets out from under the influence of Nick Cave, you
12:28
know, like there's some stuff where you can clearly hear him
12:31
indebted to that. And then there's some stuff
12:33
where Macomb really finds his own voice.
12:37
And it's funny that the I'm sure Adam knows the the, the bass
12:40
player from the Triffids became the bass player for Nick Cave in
12:45
1990. Switched over.
12:47
Yeah, I, I guess I just want to like, I fell into like I leaned
12:53
into him where he felt like really authentic.
12:57
Like the thing about him that even when I couldn't totally get
13:00
into them. But the thing that was that
13:02
always kept drawing me back Justin to like every few years,
13:07
like let me go back to the Triffids.
13:09
Let me go back to the triffids is that he was really beautiful
13:15
and really troubled, which is like my wheelhouse, right?
13:19
Like that's like a moth to a lamp for me, you know, like he,
13:23
he died young, You know, he had everything.
13:26
He was a great poet. He had great loves in his life.
13:30
He was always with really interesting, strong women.
13:34
And he was a terrible alcoholic. Like, there's a story about his
13:39
friend just finding him on the floor where his body had like,
13:45
swelled up so bad he couldn't get up off the floor.
13:49
I mean, he's young, you know what I mean?
13:50
He. He.
13:51
Talked young. He was like completely wrecked
13:55
by alcohol. And then he like, I don't know
13:59
if you, if you read the back of the album covers, like the the
14:03
credits, they always think whatever the liquor store is,
14:06
that's by the recording studio recording.
14:11
And he also started doing heroin a little later.
14:14
And so he had a heart plant. He had a full heart transplant
14:17
in 96. Wow.
14:19
And continued to use heroin and drink and and died in 1999.
14:25
Really young, 36 years old. 36 years old too.
14:28
Yeah, I mean. Yeah.
14:30
And the, and the way that he grew up, he was like, he was
14:34
like from an affluent family. So he was from, I don't know if
14:39
you know where this is, Adam, but he was from Peppermint Grove
14:44
in Perth, like. In.
14:46
West Australia and both of his parents were doctors.
14:51
He had three older brothers. Their house was like a historic
14:57
kind of like ranch house. And it was known in the whole
15:00
town as the Cliff. Like it had a name like, oh, you
15:04
like you've been to the Cliff. Like, it was like a kind of like
15:06
this legendary place because his parents were really
15:10
sophisticated and into art stuff.
15:12
And like, so he just wasn't the person that you would think
15:17
would just totally blow out and, like, ruin his life, you know,
15:21
which is just, I guess, a nod to like, alcoholism that it doesn't
15:26
choose, you know what I mean? It's lately it's like an equal
15:29
opportunity employer, right? But yeah, he just has like a
15:33
really interesting story and life.
15:36
And he was never really accepted by his parents.
15:39
They they wanted him to become a professional and they looked at,
15:43
they were like, why are you spending all your nights in
15:46
like, bars and nightclubs, like writing music?
15:48
And like he wrote letters to his father that were really
15:53
intimate. And like, you could tell he's
15:55
always, he's been really real with him.
15:58
He's not like trying to pretend he's somebody he's not to his
16:00
dad, but he's always sort of seeking the approval of his
16:04
parents, you know, which they're they're, they're still alive, or
16:07
at least they were a few years ago.
16:10
And like Adam was saying, like I know that there's like at least
16:13
one song that that is so prominent in Australian, like
16:17
more that I'm sure that they are proud of what he achieved now,
16:23
you know. Yeah, sorry, that was kind of
16:25
all over the place, but I just wanted to.
16:27
That was awesome. That was really good.
16:29
I didn't know a lot of that. That was great.
16:31
Thanks. Beautiful and troubled man like
16:35
first of all, I love that you said that you're like a motto
16:39
aflame to that. But beauty is all over this
16:42
band, right Adam? Like there is a lot of beautiful
16:46
imagery going on. How you know?
16:49
Is that part of your planning here with with your 20?
16:54
It does feel like we need to talk about an Australian that's
16:56
not got an alcohol or drug problem at some stage.
17:00
We've got Nick Cave, we've got Grant McLean and we've got Steve
17:03
Kilby and David Mcgoon. Sorry, yeah.
17:13
Yeah. So I was going to just talk
17:15
about, just for a second about them and just about the fact
17:20
they're from Perth. So I don't know how much you
17:23
guys know about Perth, but it is the most isolated capital city
17:27
in the world. It is.
17:30
So just to give you a bit of perspective, I wanted to, and
17:33
I'll put it into your language, I mean miles rather than
17:35
kilometers. So the nearest capital city to
17:37
Perth is Adelaide where I live and it's 1618 miles.
17:43
Wow, Oh my God. So there's 27 hours straight
17:47
driving, so you can't do it in one day.
17:49
You'd have to do it over a few days to get there.
17:53
Wow. I just wanted to say that
17:54
because to me that that encapsulates their sound.
18:00
To me, that's a real sound of so Australian.
18:04
So I guess Outback or remote and sort of isolated, a lot of it
18:14
feels that way to me so and envisages that kind of real wide
18:21
open spaces and expanses in a lot of the sound.
18:25
So I mean, I'm going to probably bang on.
18:30
But amazingly, what's amazing for them is a band from Perth in
18:36
the in the late 70s to early 80s became, you know, Triple J or
18:41
double J radio darlings. You know, they were David Mccoon
18:46
was the IT guy on on Triple J at one point with it, with all the
18:51
stuff he's done, not just the Triffids.
18:53
So and that's testament to just how how great the songwriting
18:59
is. In my opinion, It's top notch
19:01
songwriting. I agree with what you said
19:03
before, Gavin, about the Nick Cave stuff and Nick Cave's one
19:08
of my favorite artists. So I I've got a little bit of a
19:10
soft spot for that sound. But, but I do like the fact that
19:15
he really found his own way. So I think he asked me about how
19:20
I went about my list. Sorry, but I, I just can wax
19:23
lyrical about these guys. I, I think I had about 30
19:28
something or 40 something. A lot of the songs were new to
19:30
me. I like when that happens for me
19:33
because I'm not doing one every week.
19:34
But you just, and I do like to try and spend a fair bit of time
19:37
with the discography before I start making a list.
19:39
So that's what I did this time and I found it a bit hard, but
19:44
probably there's probably about four or five songs on the
19:46
outside of the 20 that I struggled with a little bit.
19:49
But and I did make some light changes and switches and if you
19:54
guys have them, I'll point them out.
19:55
But I'm pretty happy with my 20. It's right across the disco.
20:00
But I do think they had stronger points in their discography than
20:04
others parts. So it's not evenly distributed.
20:08
Yeah, I. I'm somewhere around there and
20:12
I'll tell you this, you know, before digging into the songs
20:15
that this is a band. This happens a lot when I do the
20:21
panels with the other Aussie boys, Josh and Jamie, Like the,
20:27
IT feels like the first album is going to be like kind of where
20:31
I'm at and where I'm going to get everything.
20:33
And then suddenly out of nowhere, an album later in the
20:36
discography just kind of like slaps me in the face and goes,
20:39
no, dude, this is the one you like.
20:41
And that happened here with. And I'll, I'll throw the name of
20:44
the album out here. Calendar.
20:46
Really, I was really drawn to calendar as far as.
20:52
I love calendar. As an album, like it felt like,
20:56
you know, I was adding songs like as I was going and it felt
21:00
like I, I think I seriously had the entire record after my first
21:05
pass. And so before, before I moved on
21:08
to the next record, I was like, I had no, I can't do that.
21:10
Let's let's cut through these like immediately.
21:15
But other than that, like, you know, I'm always hesitant to say
21:18
the word easy because that makes it seem seem like I, there was,
21:22
there was no, there was no struggle to like, you know,
21:26
decide which songs are which. But like, I did try not to
21:30
overthink it. You know, Gavin brought up the
21:34
words, you know, beautiful and troubled.
21:38
And I kind of naturally gravitated there anyway.
21:42
So like the fact that he brought up those words, I might as well
21:45
repeat them. But I, I was definitely drawn to
21:50
the beauty of, of this band. And, and any time it felt like
21:54
there was like a moment or, you know, especially early on, like
21:58
where I was drawn to that warmth of, you know, I felt like I knew
22:02
the band and we're we were just hanging out in a pub together or
22:06
something. Like I definitely lean towards
22:08
that early on. So all that to say, it's just
22:14
enough songs here, Gavin, that that we could all be wildly way
22:18
off of each other. Yeah, or you know, the cream
22:21
could just rise. Who knows the the mat suggests
22:25
low. But what do you think for our
22:29
for our final say? How many do you think we get
22:30
through unanimously? I don't know.
22:33
I mean, I, I, I like, I like what Adam, how Adam described
22:37
like they're how Adam sort of talked about Perth being sort
22:42
of, you know, in, in the sound of the band.
22:45
I I, I do think that there's like that, that, that, that it's
22:49
landscape music, you know, that nature is used in their and that
22:52
runs through it. But but, and also that band is
22:58
all over the fucking place. You know what I mean?
23:00
They're, they're doing all so many different things.
23:03
And so I think that we're probably going to be all over
23:06
the place. You know, I, I was a little
23:09
worried about how the band, how Justin would.
23:12
I'm so stoked to hear that you liked it, Justin.
23:15
I was, I, I was kind of worried about it because I guess I feel
23:18
like while I do believe this is a great band and that it would
23:24
appeal to any fans of like quality, like alternative rock
23:28
music for me, for an American Adam, like new wave kid, like
23:33
this is a band for for excavators of that time period,
23:37
you know? Like.
23:39
It's a, It's a, It's something that I am interested in because
23:42
I understand the context of everything that went on around
23:46
it. So I was a little worried, but
23:48
it's it's it's encouraging to hear that Justin was like in on
23:50
this. I think we'll get I I also
23:54
there's a couple big songs that they have that I think are like
23:56
2 orchestral and don't really appeal to me.
23:59
So I think we're going to get 4. OK.
24:01
Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's a good a good four too
24:07
though, I think. What do you think Adam?
24:11
Is there more out there than 4? Well, yeah, I'm not sure.
24:17
I mean, one thing I was thinking, because I do think the
24:20
appeal in all of their discog to somebody, you know, so I don't
24:26
think there's any real clunkers. So it's possible that we might
24:31
cover a huge amount of their discog.
24:34
Yeah, just. Might be what we do, which would
24:38
they mean probably we're not going to hit so many.
24:41
But having said that, I still think I reckon I'm going to be
24:45
slightly more optimistic and go 5, but I'm not overly confident
24:50
on that. But I'll go 5.
24:53
Yeah, I, I think 4 is a good guess.
24:55
And I feel like that's a good four kind of to your point.
24:59
Yeah, I feel like, I feel like there's a good possibility that
25:03
we're kind of covering a lot of ground today.
25:07
And whenever you cover a lot of ground, if you come out with
25:10
four, then you actually have have done pretty well.
25:16
That said, like, do I ever want to win this thing?
25:20
I, I often, I, I win this way too often for somebody who's off
25:28
most of the time really trying not to.
25:31
I'm going to go one up on Adam and then go 6.
25:36
Because as I said, as I always say, if we're going to, if we're
25:40
going to, you know, get, if it's, it's better to be positive
25:45
about it. And you know, if I'm going to
25:47
win it, at least then we, we've already gotten 6.
25:50
So, and I mean, I honestly don't think that's I think they're
25:56
they're probably Gavin's 4 is probably right.
26:00
And then there could be like 2 surprises that we're like, oh
26:03
really? Oh, OK, yeah, cool.
26:05
So that seems to happen. So I'm going to take the six.
26:09
We're going to take a quick pause.
26:11
And on the other side of it, we are going to play the game.
26:13
It's the programmed. And with that, the name of the
26:22
game is deprogrammed. The three of us have combed
26:25
through the entire Triffids discography and plucked out 20
26:28
songs that were now going to mash out mash together in an
26:30
attempt to create a top ten circuit for you.
26:33
In case you are like me and have never given the Triffids the
26:36
time of day. And I guess more importantly,
26:38
had never even heard of them. So if you've gotten this far and
26:41
haven't heard of them, get ready to hear some songs.
26:44
You know, I could always do the thing, but I think what I want
26:46
to do is I was, we, we kept going to this word.
26:50
And it's exactly what I would use to describe this song and
26:55
why I chose it. And when I heard it again, like
26:57
I was listening to it just before you came in.
27:00
Gavin, how about beautiful waste?
27:02
Yeah. Yes.
27:06
Love it. Absolutely.
27:09
Word up. Hell yeah, that's.
27:13
The song that was on the the comp that I bought, that was the
27:17
first song I ever heard of theirs.
27:20
It is such a new wave like classic song.
27:25
And that's the song that like I didn't think anything else they
27:27
ever did ever sounded like that for lots of reasons.
27:30
I mean, horns and all that stuff.
27:32
But I could, I've listened to that song 1,000,000 times and
27:37
like never gotten sick of it. It always makes me sparkle and
27:41
spark and makes me so happy. You mentioned.
27:47
It it reminds me of that goat wings actually.
27:50
Yeah. Yeah, it does.
27:52
Yeah. You you mentioned like the
27:54
sparkle. That's such a great way to put
27:56
it like that, like the way the first 30 seconds of the song and
28:01
normally I'm a please get to the point kind of guy.
28:04
Nah, man. Like that is the point like the
28:07
that first like 30 seconds before it kind of jumps in and
28:11
then like it's just it sparkles. It's beautiful.
28:15
I yeah, I was, you know. The lyrics, the lyrics are kind
28:20
of dark, you know, at the same time, which is I always love
28:23
that juxtaposition. You know, I'm glad I went with
28:27
that one though, because like I said, like it it, it obviously
28:30
struck me on 1st pass and 2nd pass and whatever, but like, it
28:34
really did something for me when I was listening to it just
28:37
before we went on the show. So boom, yeah, there we go.
28:41
One down. So I, I was going to, so just on
28:45
the song before we go off, it couldn't be named a better name
28:48
for it either because it is a massive waste in the sense.
28:52
Yeah, it's obviously AP in 83 and it's lost forever.
28:56
Really. I'd never heard it before.
28:57
And so when we're going through, I listen to this going this.
29:01
This could have been, this could have been a massive hit.
29:05
What? Yeah, I'd never heard that song
29:07
before and we're going through disco.
29:10
I just couldn't believe how beautiful it was.
29:13
I think it could have been a hit.
29:15
If you know, this is very early on in the trip, it's time before
29:18
they were really known around the place.
29:21
So you know, at a different time, promoted differently, that
29:24
could have been a huge hit. I think it's just such a
29:27
beautiful song. Yeah.
29:30
It is funny. I do think it has crossover
29:33
American appeal, which is kind of to your point.
29:37
I feel like it could have here, but also, what do I know about
29:41
then? All right, so beautiful waste is
29:45
in Gavin. Where do you want to start?
29:48
So beautiful Waste is tied for my first for my favorite trip it
29:53
song, and I'm going to lead with my other favorite, which you
29:56
should never do on this show for the kids, for the kids at home.
30:00
But I'm going to go to Calendar and take the song A Trick of the
30:06
Light. Oh yeah, yeah.
30:09
Yes. Nice.
30:11
That is my favorite. It's so good.
30:15
That's my favorite software. Yeah, it's so good.
30:18
You know, I bought the single, the seven inch single, and it's
30:22
a different version of the song, a different recording, and it's
30:26
not as good. The album version on Valenture
30:30
is so fucking good. Yeah.
30:34
The lyrics are so good. It's just, it's an incredible
30:37
piece of work. It's it's funny, on my first
30:41
pass, it felt like it was like I was just putting it through just
30:45
because, you know, and then so I was like, well, I want to give
30:50
it some more space. And I'm so glad that I did
30:53
because this was definitely a highlight for me too.
30:56
Like it again, speaking to beautiful and troubled and you
31:03
know, I I didn't look into the lyrics to know if if that's
31:06
really what it was about, but that was definitely the vibe it
31:08
gave me. I was like, Oh no, this is a for
31:11
sure. This one's in like I gotta have
31:14
this one. So so.
31:17
Good. Yeah, I I was aware of this
31:19
song. So, so there are a couple of
31:21
bigger ones, but I and I knew this one.
31:23
So this one definitely got some radio play, but I I've never
31:28
really listened to it like I had with doing this deep dive.
31:33
And it is definitely one of my favorites too.
31:36
And I was really nervous, Gavin, when you said that you didn't
31:38
like some of the so were you maybe put off by some of the
31:41
orchestral stuff? I thought, oh, far out.
31:43
I think you're not going to have that one.
31:44
And it's I think there's a cup. There's one or two others as
31:48
well, but it's right up there with I think it's one.
31:51
I think it's maybe their Best Song.
31:53
The way it's written, the lyrics are just beautiful.
31:56
I can't get out of my head. I just can't get out of my head
32:00
when I when I listen to it. Oh, it's so good.
32:03
I'm glad you guys had me. Yeah, boom.
32:05
Wow, way of smashing it. Yeah, OK.
32:08
Pressure is on. All right.
32:10
Yeah. Well, yeah, pressure is on
32:11
unfortunately, Adam, but it's also not.
32:14
So where do you want to? Go.
32:17
I'm I'm gonna OK, I'm gonna go straight to the obvious spot.
32:22
Maybe so in Australia, I've already mentioned this song was
32:28
held in massive high esteem. Triple J at the moment are doing
32:33
a competition around Australia so where you can vote for the
32:36
top Australian songs of all time.
32:39
Fantastic. All my friends, we're all
32:41
getting into it. It's we're all listening back to
32:44
Australian music and so and the Trippett's song Wide Open Rd.
32:52
is, is in that list and is in my top 10.
32:57
So I wanted I wanted to mention that Wide Open Rd. from Warren
33:02
Kennedy devotional. Yeah, I got it.
33:07
Yeah, yeah, I, I didn't know that for a while that that, but,
33:13
but I do know that that's held. That song is kind of like an
33:16
anthem. It's held this, you know, in
33:18
such high regard in Australia. I love that about that song.
33:21
It's a beautiful song. So the the Australian Performing
33:26
Rights Association, APRA in early 2000s put the song in,
33:31
it's one of in the top 30 greatest Australian songs ever.
33:37
And they've also the trippets and that song in particular have
33:41
been into the Aria Hall of Fame as well.
33:45
So in the Australian recording industry Hall of Fame.
33:49
So it is a classic song. It's not well known as as much
33:53
as it should be, but just the song that I never, I still love
33:58
it. I I never get sick of it.
34:00
I just think it's beautiful. It's it's it evokes that water.
34:03
I mean wide open Rd., But the that that you know, the album
34:06
cover of once any devotional, what feels like you're immersed
34:09
in that world of just wandering around in the Outback.
34:13
Yeah. Maybe a little bit like the
34:15
Church Starfish album that we talked about last time as well,
34:20
but but even more so, just just. Yeah, yeah, I.
34:27
Mean wow like the this this makes yeah, I know like now I'm
34:33
wondering do I do I go no, I'm going to go with the heart.
34:38
I'm going to go to calendar. I told you guys I had AI had
34:41
trouble with this one. I I I've got a lot from it is
34:46
definitely one of my favourites. And you know, this kind of
34:49
checks the this gave me that checks the beautiful troubled,
34:56
but also, but more towards beautiful.
34:58
I'm I'm saying a lot of words just to say bury me deep in
35:01
love. Yes.
35:08
I didn't take it. That's a big song for them.
35:11
That's what I was thinking about.
35:13
The orchestral part. I just couldn't get with it.
35:16
But I mean, I do like it. It just didn't make my list.
35:20
But that's a that's a very famous tripping song, Justin.
35:23
A lot of people have a lot of love for that.
35:25
Yeah, that's that's the big single off of that album.
35:34
Unfortunately, you go. I wouldn't fight against that
35:39
song being on the list. Yeah, I I think it's a beautiful
35:45
song. And he's baritone.
35:47
He's. We haven't talked about his
35:48
voice yet. I know.
35:49
Yeah. So, so amazing.
35:53
Yeah. We'll take the two there though.
35:55
That's all right, Gavin. I took AB side that Justin
36:00
already named. I took bad news.
36:02
Always reminds me of you. Yeah.
36:04
Yep. No, OK, OK.
36:14
There's another two and Adam. So I might, while we're talking
36:23
about calendar, I just mentioned though, this was the because
36:27
born Senator devotional got huge critical decline and elevated
36:31
the trippers from probably no one really even knowing who they
36:33
were, because I don't think perilous plane had much
36:38
airplane. So they were they were, you
36:40
know, on top of the world to some degree and certainly
36:42
getting cover coverage in the UK as well, because I think this
36:46
sound does fit in with the Echo and the Bayman sound and so on.
36:50
And calendar definitely, you know, it's three years after
36:55
Ocean Rain. You can see, I reckon they were
36:57
listening to Ocean Rain a little bit when this album came out,
37:02
but unfortunately it didn't hit. And some people would criticize
37:07
the production of the album, but I personally love, love it.
37:09
And I think the songwriting is so strong.
37:11
Like you said, Justin, this song that I'm about to pick, it's
37:16
like an earworm. I just could not get out of my
37:18
head. I just walking around the house
37:19
singing it and it's Vagabond Holes.
37:26
No. No, it's a weave, OK.
37:31
If I was to put a number on that like 23 like it was one of the
37:37
last couple ones and I was looking at wow I have 5 from
37:41
calendar maybe I should get rid of another one.
37:43
So there was no real reason for it either.
37:47
But. It's so good, such a good song.
37:51
I loved what you said, Adam. And do you know what's funny it?
37:54
Do you know who produced Calendar?
37:58
No, no. Who did?
38:00
Gil Norton, who produced Ocean Rain.
38:03
Makes sense? I mean, it really feels like if
38:07
you listen to them back-to-back, I actually started listening to
38:11
a couple of songs of Ocean rain and a few often counter and like
38:14
it really was the high production, you know, orchestral
38:21
kind of album. And unfortunately, it, it
38:24
didn't, it didn't, it didn't completely bomb or anything, but
38:28
it didn't elevate them further from what they'd already done
38:31
once handed. Yeah, it's, it's a shine because
38:36
it's, it's the songwriting is top notch, right?
38:38
It's great. Yeah, it's so cool you made that
38:41
connection. That's crazy.
38:43
It's the same producer, you know.
38:44
Yeah, that's neat. All right, well, we haven't done
38:53
anything off a treeless plane. Let's see if I've got something
38:57
that at least one of you has. How about place in the sun?
39:03
No, no, All right. Out on my own but.
39:09
It's I like it though. I really like fearless playing
39:11
actually. It's a great.
39:13
I do you too. OK, I'll take the one, Gavin.
39:20
I'm going to go to In the Pines the the the album.
39:23
So you know, Adam there another band that was that moved back
39:29
and forth, you know, between Australia and London, just like,
39:33
you know, the go betweens and the and the bad seeds and all of
39:35
that. I believe that in the Pines they
39:39
they'd already they'd come back. They'd gone to London and like,
39:43
you know, had the same kind of experience that a lot of
39:46
Australian bands did and then miss and then went back home.
39:51
I can really hear what I think of as Australia in In the Pines,
39:57
which is a that's a crazy record too.
39:59
Both sides are totally different and But anyway, I took a song
40:04
called Better Off This Way off in the Pines.
40:08
No, I don't have. It no, I don't have it.
40:14
So this is what we're talking about.
40:17
This is. Yeah, we got the big ones out of
40:20
the way right off the bat. We may not match another song I.
40:25
Feel like there's got to be at least one more, but you never
40:29
know, Adam. Actually, I'm going to stay on
40:34
In the Pines because I've never heard of that album.
40:37
And so that's it was released in the same year as Born Sandy
40:41
Devotional in 86. So it's kind of like they to me,
40:48
to be honest, it feels a little bit like it was rushed a little
40:51
bit, but. Or, like, outtaking Sandy.
40:55
Yeah. But that maybe but the but the
40:58
first, the first few songs are just unbelievable and I'm like,
41:02
I'm thinking, Oh my 20 is going to be impossible.
41:06
But so I am a sucker for a demented kind of waltz or songs
41:14
that sound like they were a bit unhinged.
41:16
So the title track In the Pines. No.
41:21
No, I didn't take it. Damn it, I play we land
41:28
something on this album. Yeah, for real.
41:31
We'll get one. I wonder if I should try it in
41:35
the Pines since we're hammering on that, or if I should go where
41:40
I was gonna go. I'll I'll try in the pine song.
41:45
How about sun trapper? No.
41:49
Yes. Hey.
41:51
Oh yeah. I love sun trapper.
41:54
Take a 2 there. Take a two.
41:56
Boom. All right, Gavin.
42:02
So I'll go to Calendar. I took the really weird piano
42:09
fucked up song called Calendar that off that record.
42:14
No. No, I don't have that.
42:19
Not kidding when I said I had that entire record at one point.
42:23
So. So I got enough that I can add
42:26
there Adam. OK, so I want to go, I might,
42:38
I'm going to go to a song on Treeless Plane because I really
42:42
like Treeless Plane. It's it is like a real, I feel
42:46
like their first album and their last album were really all over
42:48
the shop in terms of styles. Yeah.
42:51
And then they honed, they honed their styles in the middle of
42:53
their career where I think other probably the better albums, but
42:58
they just sort of did whatever they felt like.
43:02
So. And there's this really weird.
43:04
I don't even know what to call it.
43:06
Is it a 60s weird 60s song is singing with a weird accent.
43:10
It's called Nothing can Take Your place.
43:14
No, no. Unfortunately, no I.
43:19
Really like that one, but anyway it's in the Bing.
43:22
Yeah, that's we're getting, we're going to have a lot of
43:24
that. Unfortunately, I think I haven't
43:30
tried a born Sandy yet. I'll try born Sandy.
43:34
How about life of crime? I didn't take it.
43:40
That's a big song. It was it was in and out right.
43:46
And I've got I've already got quite a lot of born Sandy
43:49
devotional which and it just missed out.
43:52
But it's a great song, Justin. It's it's interesting that I'm I
43:56
managed to find the big songs. I mean, yeah, that kind of says
44:00
something I think about. That's a solid album that
44:03
there's not a bad song on that album.
44:05
It's a classic album. Yeah.
44:07
Life of crime is in the bin where you want to go, Gavin.
44:12
I'll stay there off unborn Sandy and I'll take estuary bed.
44:20
That's the other, that's the other one that I was in it out.
44:25
That one made my first pass out of that.
44:27
I don't, I don't know where, where it dropped out.
44:32
All right into the bin. Unfortunately, we're neck deep
44:35
in bin. Yeah.
44:38
All right, Adam. OK, here's another one for the
44:42
bin I think, but I hope not. Born Sandy Devotional.
44:47
So I was reading an article in the Sydney Morning Herald.
44:53
So it's about the 30 year anniversary of this album and
44:56
they got an artist to do a review of each song going
45:00
through the album. And there's a particular song
45:02
here that Mister Stephen Kilby was talking about that he he
45:09
wish he wrote this song and it's one of his favorite songs of all
45:13
time. And it's called Lonely Stretch.
45:17
No. I don't have it.
45:19
Yeah, I didn't think you would. But you did that but it.
45:24
Made me go back. It actually made me go back and
45:26
listen to it quite a few times and then it came into my 20 and
45:31
some stuff came out. So there you go.
45:34
Taking that whole album, too, you know, that album is
45:36
incredible, yeah. It is incredible all.
45:40
Right. Well, I mean, since we seem to
45:43
be in the bin, let me take a wild swing here.
45:49
I found a couple off of their last regular.
45:52
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The first one's all over the
45:54
place. The last one's all over the
45:56
place. Yeah, I was able to find a few
45:59
from from the last one. How about falling over you?
46:04
Yes. Hey, yes.
46:07
Wow. I'd love that song When you say
46:15
Adam. So you guys, you guys.
46:20
It's so it's just so weird. It's such a weird song.
46:23
Like he he he became obsessed with rap music in in 89 when he
46:28
was making that record and the band kept saying like, what do
46:32
you? He kept trying to rap like and
46:34
that song has that kind of like half assed kind of rap in the
46:39
beginning and it's it's just such a weird song, but it's so
46:44
it's such a vibe and it's so romantic.
46:47
It's like top top four tripping songs for me.
46:53
That's crazy. Yeah, I was going to say it's a
46:57
real new life sound as well, in a way that they they never
47:01
really settled that particular kind of new wave angle.
47:05
But it's just it's just one song that they do.
47:08
And when I listen to it, I was thinking I was going to love
47:11
this because I just felt like you would.
47:15
And I did. I'll put it right up there, too.
47:18
I reckon it would definitely be my top four or five, yeah.
47:23
Yeah. I'm not going to lie, like, I
47:25
mean, obviously I liked it enough that it stood out from
47:28
that record and and made my 20. And you know, if I had to hedge
47:33
my bets, I would have guessed that that would have been a 2.
47:36
But I did not expect that to go all the way through.
47:39
All right, just like that. We're sitting at Gavin's 4,
47:43
Gavin, where you want to. Go out of this song is kind of
47:49
like where I feel like he's still like he's still kind of
47:53
like enamoured with Nick Cave, but but he takes sound like he
47:58
makes it his own. I took Fields of Glass off the
48:01
EP Off the field of Glass EP. Yeah, I got it.
48:06
I've got it as well. I've.
48:08
Got that. I love that song.
48:12
I mean, it's a 9 minute messy. Yeah, it is nickname for sure.
48:16
It's but birthday. It's amazing, yeah.
48:19
Wow, I think the 9 minutes actually played in its advantage
48:25
for for me. I'm so surprised we've got that
48:28
through. Like it's birthday party.
48:31
It's like a birthday party song, really.
48:34
Like Nick Cave's first thing. Yeah, like it's like 8 minutes
48:38
long or something. 9 minutes and 10 seconds.
48:41
Yeah. I like I said, I think that kind
48:45
of played in its advantage here, which is a very rare thing for
48:49
me. All right.
48:51
Yeah, it also reminded me of that first Echo and the Bunnymen
48:54
album when they just, you know, I stopped starting and kind of
48:59
just really raw. It's really raw and really punk
49:04
influenced and heavy, heavy, heavy song.
49:09
But I'm so happy we've got it. Yeah.
49:13
All right, boom, Adam. OK, I'm gonna, I don't know
49:24
where to go. Maybe I'll go to the to the
49:26
Black Swan and I'm picking this song.
49:30
I like this song. I thought it was really good.
49:33
But the reason why I probably put it on my list as I wanted to
49:36
talk about it because it's got the same name as David McCombs
49:42
follow up band after the trip, it's Black Eyed Susan.
49:46
Oh no. I didn't take it.
49:49
It's a cool song. And it's cool that it became
49:54
became the name of his of his band, which was really cool band
49:58
as well, actually, Yeah. All right into the bin,
50:03
unfortunately, but into the bin when we're already at 5 is not
50:07
bad. Right.
50:10
All right. I've got a lot of bin.
50:12
I've got a lot of bin going today.
50:13
We all do, friends. Yeah.
50:21
Let me try. And in the Pine Song, I don't
50:29
think we did. We landed 2 on that yet.
50:34
How about only one life? Yes.
50:39
Hey. No.
50:43
OK, we'll take a two. At least we've got something
50:46
there for the for the combo. Yeah, I've still got a cool.
50:51
Song. We've got Sun Trapper as well.
50:53
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
50:56
OK. So we have, we've got, we've got
50:58
options. All right, Gavin.
51:04
So, Adam, do you know who produced the Black Swan?
51:09
They got Steven St. to do it. Who did the Smith's last album?
51:15
That you, you know that you and I both kind of just.
51:18
He did Morrissey's first album. He did fucking Parklife, the
51:21
Blur album. Oh.
51:23
Really. Yeah, yeah.
51:25
So I'm going. I'm going back to the Black
51:26
Swan, the other single off that record called Goodbye Little
51:30
Boy. Oh no.
51:31
I don't know that one. No, it was on my long list.
51:35
No, I like it. Didn't make it in the end.
51:40
In the bin. I love that song.
51:45
All right, Adam. OK, I'm pretty anxious that
51:49
we've only got one song on, so I'm going to go back there now.
51:55
I'm really nervous that we're going to just pick every song
51:58
but not get anything with two. So I mean Dave Mccune's voice,
52:03
amazing. We talked about that, but I also
52:05
love female vocalist Jill Burt as well and her singing through
52:12
a lot of the songs. And so I wanted to mention
52:16
Tender is the Night. Yeah, I got it.
52:18
Yes. Wow.
52:19
Oh, good. Yes.
52:21
We got it pretty excellent. Oh man.
52:25
It's funny. That's a.
52:26
Great song. Yeah.
52:28
Dude, it's a great song. And I and I and I, I always knew
52:32
this other version of it. It's slightly more like fleshed
52:37
out and really great. I forgot that the Bourne Sandy
52:41
version is so stripped down. But I love it when Jill sings.
52:46
Every song that Jill sings is when whenever he they bring her
52:50
in. It's just so fucking cool, you
52:53
know? Yeah.
52:55
Absolutely. That song is so romantic.
52:59
It's such a great song about a relationship.
53:03
Just when she says baby, let's go out tonight.
53:05
It's so. It's so great.
53:06
You know, it makes you want to cry.
53:08
It's so. It's so beautiful.
53:10
I love that you brought up, you know, because that was exactly
53:14
the reason I, I picked it. I was like, she sings on a lot
53:18
of songs, but I don't have any of them.
53:21
And then I came across this one and I was like, I think this is
53:24
my favorite. So yeah, I picked that because
53:28
it was my favorite of hers. Or the ones with her singing so.
53:33
Yeah. Oh man, now the pressure is on
53:37
me at six. 6. So we got to at least do one
53:42
more. I'm actually starting to run out
53:50
123-4567 eight. OK.
53:54
We got a couple more rounds in US, I think.
53:57
Yeah, I reckon I've got a few that let.
54:02
Me, try another treeless treeless plane here.
54:05
How about hanging shed? No, no.
54:12
It was on my long list. It's a great song.
54:14
OK. Yeah, into the bin.
54:17
All right, Gavin. I took love and affection off in
54:23
the Pines. No.
54:25
All right. Bummer.
54:32
All right, Adam. OK, this song, I knew this one
54:40
beforehand, is off trailers plane.
54:43
It was, I think it might have been a single, but it definitely
54:45
was on the radio a little bit. Hell of a summer.
54:49
Oh man, No, no. That's such an Aussie song.
54:54
That's such an Aussie song. I there's two songs off a
54:58
treeless plane that I was that I listened to like just before,
55:02
you know, again, I always try to listen to as much as I can
55:05
before we go on. And that's one of them.
55:07
I was like, can I make room for that one?
55:09
And man, I just, I don't want to do the work that late in the
55:13
game. So, yeah.
55:20
All right. Is that I guess I can try
55:33
another calendar song. How about open for you?
55:38
No. No no Ben on my long list
55:42
because I also had nearly all that whole album, so no all.
55:48
Right, Gavin? So I'm going to go back to the
55:54
first album. One thing that's I think is
55:56
unique about the Triffids as a band is that they stayed
56:01
together the whole time. The original 5 members and then
56:06
two women in the band, which is really cool.
56:08
Woman drummer, which is really cool.
56:11
And and David's brother was in the band robber on guitar and
56:15
I'm sure. But normally when you have a
56:17
band that has a front man with that many like problems and
56:22
stuff, you know, like you at least lose 1 member, usually the
56:26
brother. But they added members, a couple
56:31
different people as they went on, but they never lost those.
56:35
That crew hung in with him till the wheels came off at the very
56:38
end. You know, I took my baby thinks
56:42
she's a train off Trevor's Plain.
56:46
No. Not it was there.
56:50
It was around the place for sure.
56:55
We got a hell of a list in the bin right now, fellas.
56:58
Yeah, I've got. Sticks.
56:59
Yeah. All right, Adam.
57:02
We can make a really good top pin out of the.
57:03
Business actually. OK, I'll maybe I'll have another
57:11
crack at Treeless Plane and maybe I'll do the thing.
57:16
Song One, track 1. Red Pony.
57:18
I got it. Yes.
57:21
Hey, there we go. Pressure's off.
57:27
The reason I didn't play? It like a rape Arabian feel to
57:30
that, yeah. Which is unusual, yeah.
57:33
It's, it's interesting with this band because like, I didn't, I
57:38
didn't feel the need to like go there.
57:41
I felt it was a good enough song that I I wanted it and I'm glad
57:46
it made the list because it did set a tone for me.
57:49
Like as far as you know, get get on board, but it didn't.
57:54
It does the thing without doing the thing.
57:57
Like, if that makes sense, Like the rest of the the rest of the
58:01
discography doesn't sound like this, but it does set you up for
58:06
hey, you should be ready for anything.
58:09
Yeah, so good. All right, we'll take that boom
58:14
right up to 7. Oh, now I can breathe a sigh of
58:20
relief. I'm thinking at this point now I
58:22
might be just about out. We'll do one more and then I'll
58:25
dump out, I think. Not at all related to me not
58:31
having the pressure anymore. I'll try.
58:46
Yeah. This is in the Pine Song.
58:48
How about Kathy Knows? Yeah.
58:53
Hey, I'll take a two there. I love, I love that song.
58:59
In fact, the first 3 songs, the soundtrack of Kathy Knows and In
59:02
the Pines, I was like, I love this album and then the rest of
59:07
it didn't really hit with me. To be honest.
59:09
I might need to go back and revisit it, but those first
59:12
three, that's a as strong a first 3 songs as you'll get.
59:18
I love the second side of In the Pines.
59:20
Way better than the first side. That's weird.
59:22
Do you OK? Yeah, maybe I need to give it
59:25
some more. Listens.
59:26
Yeah, maybe I need to go back. What Gavin?
59:33
Well, let's take one off the second side of In the Pines.
59:36
I took one soul less on your fiery list.
59:42
No, no. Which I think they do twice,
59:45
like I think they call it something else on one of the EPS
59:49
or something. But anyway, yeah.
59:52
That would make sense. I feel like I had a deja vu
59:55
feeling at some point. Yeah.
59:58
All right, Adam I. Think one thing about them that
1:00:03
we haven't said is they are a really good track.
1:00:05
One band, like most albums, that first song is pretty awesome,
1:00:12
and that's the same with Born Sandy Devotional.
1:00:16
So the Seabirds. Yes.
1:00:20
No, I don't, but we'll take that too.
1:00:24
Boom and. I'm glad we've got another two
1:00:26
on spawn Sandy. Cool boom.
1:00:30
And boom, and I will just go ahead and dump out here.
1:00:39
All right, starting at the top, branded.
1:00:43
No. No.
1:00:46
OK, keep your eyes on the whole. No.
1:00:53
No. OK, Kelly's.
1:01:00
Yeah, Kelly's Blues. No, I really wanted.
1:01:06
I really love that song. I really wanted to put it on.
1:01:09
Yeah. And last but not least, good
1:01:12
fortune rose. No.
1:01:17
All right. So I mean, just like that, we're
1:01:20
going to be at 7. None of us are going to win,
1:01:23
which means we got to work our way out of it.
1:01:26
Gavin, you can make this conversation harder.
1:01:31
Yeah, I'm going to try my best. We didn't take anything up.
1:01:34
Reigning Pleasure, which I think on Spotify is called, they wrap
1:01:39
it up with some singles and call it beautiful ways in other
1:01:42
songs, right? But the the last song on raining
1:01:46
pleasure that Jill also sings and it's called Raining Pleasure
1:01:53
and I, I love that song. It's so great.
1:01:59
Yeah, I had it in my 20s at one point and then I got knocked
1:02:03
out. But it's a good one.
1:02:05
But sorry. Yeah, OK.
1:02:08
I took the B side region unknown.
1:02:13
No. And finally off born Sandy
1:02:19
Devotional, I took stolen property.
1:02:21
Oh yes. Hey.
1:02:23
Nice. I like that too, that one was a
1:02:26
close. One for me, that song, I think I
1:02:30
mean I I just kept getting myself tied up and knots by
1:02:34
taking songs in and out and born sending the postal because every
1:02:39
song is so good. I think if I had to put a number
1:02:42
on stolen property, it may have been #21 just worth noting.
1:02:48
Yeah. All right, Just for fun, Adam.
1:02:54
Yeah. So I think I'm just going down
1:02:59
the list chronologically. I'm I'm knocked out until we get
1:03:02
to calendar. So on calendar I had blinder by
1:03:06
the hour and I made love I really like.
1:03:15
Yeah. And I think that's it.
1:03:20
That's it. That sounds about right.
1:03:22
OK. You know, just looking at this,
1:03:26
between those two songs was holy water.
1:03:28
That one was a tough one for me, a tough out.
1:03:32
Glad I didn't pick it because nobody else did.
1:03:35
And then songs that were really close for me on Treeless, plain
1:03:39
old Ghost Rider. I mean, ultimately, again, I'm
1:03:42
glad I didn't take it because it nobody else did.
1:03:46
But like, there's this Western feel to it that I was like just
1:03:50
enamoured by. So.
1:03:52
Yeah. All right.
1:03:54
So 7 all the way through, which again, I mean, if you're going
1:04:01
to swing, swing positive. So we got beautiful waist, a
1:04:05
trick of the light wide open Rd. falling over you field of glass
1:04:08
tenders, the night red pony. That's a really good start.
1:04:13
We got a good number twos here, enough that we we got to work
1:04:18
through it. We've got bury me deep in love.
1:04:22
Bad news always reminds me of you Sun Trapper.
1:04:26
Only one life Kathy knows the seabirds and stolen property.
1:04:33
I guess the question is album representation here, right
1:04:39
Gavin? Like is, is that our first
1:04:41
tackling or is there just something that that seems so
1:04:46
obvious that we just missed? Yeah.
1:04:49
So we have one off calendar, we have one off the Black Swan, we
1:04:53
have one off Treeless Plain and we have two off born Sandy.
1:04:56
So we don't have anything off. We're not going to have anything
1:05:02
off for any pleasure, no. And we don't have anything off
1:05:09
in the Pines. Yeah.
1:05:13
So we definitely have to have one of them.
1:05:16
Yeah, that would be cool. And so so we have 7, we have 7
1:05:20
number twos that we need to get down to three, right.
1:05:26
And the pine songs are Only One Life and Trapper happy.
1:05:39
Yeah. So, well, I mean, out of those 3
1:05:44
songs, I would argue for only one life.
1:05:46
I didn't have the other two, but I like the other two.
1:05:53
Yeah. So do you want to start there
1:05:55
and try to find something off in the Pines?
1:05:57
Yeah, let's start there. We think, or I'm sorry, What do
1:06:01
you think, Adam, of those 3? Kathy knows for me wow.
1:06:06
Out of those three book by by probably a fairway wow, but I
1:06:13
like to portray them. Were you thinking something
1:06:18
else, Justin? No, I just the way you phrased
1:06:21
it, I, you know, I like that because, you know, I mean, we,
1:06:28
we still have two spots left. So if we went with Kathy knows
1:06:32
Gavin, there's still room to take one of the other ones if we
1:06:35
want to. Unless we think.
1:06:38
Yeah, right. Like we don't want, we don't
1:06:40
have to knock anything out here. We can.
1:06:43
We can just take Kathy knows and then come back.
1:06:46
Yeah, I mean, I I'm going to defer to my Australian friend
1:06:50
always on this episode, I think. So let's do Kathy knows.
1:06:54
All right, so now let's let's work on these other two.
1:07:01
I mean, we all had great things to say about calendar, but we've
1:07:06
got Bury Me Deep in Love and then Bad News always reminds me
1:07:09
of you do those. I think bad news East side,
1:07:15
right? It's not really all Challenger,
1:07:17
if that matters. OK, I mean, you know, I, I
1:07:22
guess. I think Harry may take in love.
1:07:24
We should probably take, I mean, it's a people that's just a
1:07:29
really big song for them and people have a lot of feelings
1:07:32
about that song. OK.
1:07:33
I didn't have it, so we should probably take that.
1:07:36
All right, let's do that then and that.
1:07:38
Yeah, if I'm making a top 10 for someone to get them into it, I'm
1:07:41
definitely going to give them that some.
1:07:44
Yeah, yeah. All right, so here's where it
1:07:47
starts to get tricky. Or does it?
1:07:55
I mean, OK, so I think at this point, though, bad news is just
1:08:00
happy to be here. I mean, yeah, right.
1:08:05
Agree. Yeah.
1:08:07
So that means the conversation is do we get a third Born Sandy
1:08:11
song or a second in the Pine song?
1:08:15
I think you take a third Born Sandy.
1:08:17
OK. I agree.
1:08:19
Oh, OK. All right.
1:08:20
So we're in agreement. That means it's the seabirds or
1:08:22
stolen property. I, I can tell you I had both on
1:08:28
my first pass. I think stolen property hung
1:08:32
around longer. I can't tell you why this either
1:08:37
of them really dropped off, but I really can't tell you why the
1:08:41
seabirds dropped off so far in front of.
1:08:46
Yeah, I know. Like it.
1:08:47
It's funny. Like, maybe maybe that was part
1:08:49
of it. Maybe I was like, I don't want
1:08:51
to play into the thing, but maybe.
1:08:55
But maybe that's exactly why we should take it.
1:08:57
Right. Like Adam pointed out, they're a
1:08:59
great track, one band. This is a, a great track 1 And
1:09:04
you know, does that round out our, our list pretty well?
1:09:08
I, I feel like you know, is that am I making the argument for
1:09:12
seabirds? I think I again, I, I think like
1:09:19
I'm going to defer to, to, to Adam on the, on this episode.
1:09:24
What? What are you thinking about
1:09:25
those two songs, Adam? Actually, before I do that, I
1:09:29
just, there's another song on. I don't want to put this in, but
1:09:33
Born Sandy devotional called Chicken Killer that we didn't
1:09:35
even talk about, which is often seen as one of their best songs
1:09:39
actually. Oh, really?
1:09:40
Yeah. It's never really hit with me,
1:09:43
but it is often seen as one. But I, I think, I mean, I think
1:09:48
they're both great. I'm really glad we've got one of
1:09:50
these to put in though, because I think Wide Open Road and
1:09:54
Tender As The Night, funnily enough, don't really represent
1:09:58
the other songs from the album. Yeah.
1:10:01
Whereas there there's a lot of other songs that have a similar
1:10:04
feel and and I'm glad we've got one of them to put in.
1:10:08
I think you can't go past the seabirds really.
1:10:12
And I feel sad for a stolen property, but you know, yeah,
1:10:17
there's only 10 spots. Yeah, I'm with it.
1:10:20
Let me shift this, then we'll turn up the heat and get to the
1:10:23
next level here. Boom boom boom all right, our 10
1:10:29
beautiful waist a trick of the light wide open Rd. falling over
1:10:32
you Field of glass tenders the night red Pony, Kathy knows Bury
1:10:36
Me Deep in Love and the Seabirds rounds out our ten.
1:10:40
If I was to read that list down to you Gavin, which one of those
1:10:43
songs is the one? Wow, that's a crazy list.
1:10:48
We hit a we covered a lot of like weird like styles that they
1:10:53
do. It's a really good there's a
1:10:56
couple surprises like Kathy knows is like a surprise for me.
1:11:00
Field of glass is a surprise. I don't think every everything
1:11:05
else I don't think is that is too surprising to me.
1:11:09
For me, I guess. Well, I mean, I think there's, I
1:11:15
think it's, I think it's three, there's it's the first 3 songs
1:11:18
we've picked. They're up for it.
1:11:20
I think Beautiful Waste is a contender, but to me it's such
1:11:23
an outlier of anything they did. But like, I don't know, someone
1:11:30
would have the same experience as me and be like, this song is
1:11:33
amazing because it is. And then anything else by the
1:11:36
Triffids, they'd be like, what the fuck?
1:11:38
It doesn't sound anything like that.
1:11:40
But I would be down for Beautiful Ways just because I
1:11:43
think it's one of the best singles of the 80s, of the 80s
1:11:46
new wave. I think A Trick of the Light is
1:11:49
just like maybe their most masterful song and it's just so
1:11:53
great. But I think probably like, you
1:11:57
know, so we don't have a riot in Perth, you know, they're like.
1:12:04
Australia, yeah. Why don't if there's enough
1:12:07
people to riot in Perth, Yeah, Wide open Rd.
1:12:10
Is like, you know, a strong contender obviously, and that's
1:12:17
what I have to say, I guess. What do you think, Adam?
1:12:24
I just think if they were really big, let's say they're a massive
1:12:28
international band and wide open Rd. was known by everybody and
1:12:33
then I would be looking elsewhere.
1:12:35
But it it is, you know, seen as like, I think it's going to go
1:12:40
really high in Australia's top songs of all time in this, which
1:12:45
I competition I was telling you about.
1:12:49
And so, but probably not as high as it should because a lot of
1:12:53
people still don't know about it much.
1:12:55
So. So I think Wide Open Rd.
1:13:00
probably has the best chance at the end of year, even though,
1:13:04
well, I'm not sure how well the triplets will go there.
1:13:06
It'll be probably up to you guys to fight for them.
1:13:09
Yeah, but you know, it is a classic song that really does
1:13:13
deserve more appreciation and it does fit into a lot of that new
1:13:20
wave sound and all the UK bands that are quite popular with some
1:13:24
of the panel members too. So hopefully it would get a bit
1:13:27
of a showing. Yeah, I love.
1:13:29
This for that one, but I'm OK with other ones.
1:13:32
But I I think it's that it is that one.
1:13:36
Yeah. I love this because the three
1:13:38
songs that have come up were the three that I was going to put
1:13:40
up. And I, I think I agree on wide
1:13:46
open Rd. for reasons mentioned. Like it, you know, if if we were
1:13:53
just an Australian podcast and you know, even as you mentioned,
1:13:58
like it's not even that big, like some Australians know it,
1:14:01
but like it seems like that probably has the breakout
1:14:07
potential that that we're looking for to to put in front
1:14:10
of people. So let's let's go with wide open
1:14:14
Rd. Let me get it playing underneath
1:14:15
us. And then before my Internet goes
1:14:18
out, which hopefully nobody will even be able to tell, then we'll
1:14:24
wrap this puppy up. So Wide Open Rd. is our number
1:14:30
one and let me scroll over here. Beautiful waste a trick of the
1:14:35
light falling over you field of glass tender is the night red
1:14:39
pony Kathy knows Bury me deep in love and the Seabirds rounds out
1:14:43
our 10. Let's let Wide Open Rd. get a
1:14:46
moment in the sun. Wide Open Rd. indeed, that is
1:15:01
exactly what that gives you the feeling of we have done it.
1:15:06
We've turned you on to the triffids.
1:15:07
You're very welcome for us doing that.
1:15:12
You know, maybe you're in Australia.
1:15:14
Maybe we finally, you know, hit it big in Australia and you want
1:15:17
to argue with us over the the choices.
1:15:19
That's fine. If you're listening to this on
1:15:21
Spotify, there is a comment section now you can hop in
1:15:25
there, say, hey man, I can't believe this song didn't make it
1:15:29
and I can comment back. Hey man, did you listen to the
1:15:31
episode? Because This is why it didn't or
1:15:35
you know, whatever man, we can, we can converse is the is the
1:15:38
point. You can tell me which 10 songs
1:15:40
you'd pick, however you want to do it.
1:15:42
But if you're going to please consider giving us a five star
1:15:45
rating. It does help us get seen in the
1:15:48
algorithm, which is super duper helpful.
1:15:50
Same thing goes for Apple Podcast. 5 star review would be
1:15:53
super duper helpful. We'd appreciate that more than I
1:15:56
could ever put into wordspatreon.com/oh.
1:15:59
Hi Justin is a place to go where if you would like a dollar gets
1:16:03
you in the door. It gets you access to deprogram
1:16:06
for the rest of the world. The conversation that we're
1:16:08
about to have after the fact goes immediately there.
1:16:12
We also do the occasional oh Hi Justin, it's getting
1:16:16
increasingly rare you get access to certain Discord channels.
1:16:21
It does get you an automatic invite to our Discord too, so
1:16:24
you don't have to worry about like any extra links.
1:16:26
But all that stuff happens at the dollar level.
1:16:29
Kick up to the $5 level. It gets you access to even more
1:16:34
different channels in the Discord server, the legion of
1:16:37
stupid Discord servers, the server that I'm talking about.
1:16:39
You don't want to do any of that prior stuff.
1:16:42
Cool. Just ask me if you're like, come
1:16:44
join. We're growing a tree, We're
1:16:46
counting. There's deprogram panel channels
1:16:50
happening. There's a music league.
1:16:53
We're playing Wordle in there now you can play Wordle.
1:16:56
All sorts of great stuff is happening in the Legion of
1:16:58
Stupid Discord server. Come join us.
1:17:00
It's fun. We mentioned we're a podcast,
1:17:03
subscribing, rating, commenting, all those things are super
1:17:05
helpful. Sharing is caring, of course,
1:17:08
but the absolute best way for you to help me is by telling
1:17:11
somebody that you listen to the show.
1:17:12
Hey, I listen to Deprogrammed and you should too.
1:17:15
In with that. The Triffids.
1:17:17
Learn them and love them people. We'll see you next week.
1:17:19
Bye.