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Red and Blue: Jonathan Tavernari on the special glass floor at the Big 12 tournament, BYU struggling with chemistry down the stretch (?) ... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabernari joins us here for some Red and blue.
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  Speaker 2: JT. Welcome back to the show. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I am doing good, my man? How are you doing awesome?
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  Speaker 3: We were just talking about this new floor that the
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  Speaker 3: Big Twelve tournament is rolling out.
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  Speaker 2: It's called the Glass Floor.
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  Speaker 3: It's effectively a giant LED screen that they're going to
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  Speaker 3: play live competition, meaningful basketball on for the very first time.
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  Speaker 3: This was used a couple of years ago at NBA
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  Speaker 3: All Star Weekend for a bunch of exhibition stuff, dunk contest,
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  Speaker 3: three point shooting, you know, Nickelodeon games. This is the
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  Speaker 3: first time it's going to be used in a conference
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  Speaker 3: tournament with actual meaningful things on the line. And it
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  Speaker 3: is not a wooden playing surface, obviously, because led lights
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  Speaker 3: don't shine up through woods, So it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a different feel, a slightly different and acrylic for the players.
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  Speaker 3: What would you as a player feel like or think
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  Speaker 3: about something like?
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  Speaker 1: Well, so I actually got to play two non official
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  Speaker 1: games on one of those floors at the end of
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  Speaker 1: my career, you know FEBA, FEBA, you know, pioneer the
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  Speaker 1: technology and a lot of the games that we would
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  Speaker 1: play at the beginning of the season in Belgium, in Brussels,
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  Speaker 1: in Germany, three season tournaments, some of these floors were
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  Speaker 1: tested and and I'll say is this. I didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like it was slippery or it was kind of like dangerous,
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  Speaker 1: you know, although I always was like, you know what
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  Speaker 1: if someone like falls really hard or you know, like
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  Speaker 1: what happens, you know, but obviously technology is in such
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  Speaker 1: a way that that is not a danger. But I
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  Speaker 1: will say this, the lights on the floor are weird
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  Speaker 1: and it took me a minute to kind of like
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  Speaker 1: get together because they would change doing free throw line
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  Speaker 1: and you know, that would be commercials and that would
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  Speaker 1: be you know, advertisements that would come in on the floor,
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  Speaker 1: you know, doing timeouts. The floor was like changing collars
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  Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, and you're like, it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the guy that there's a
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  Speaker 1: TV in a room and you lose me. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you're like seeing all of these callers like you're
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  Speaker 1: watching an Avatar movie and you're like, what in the
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  Speaker 1: world is happening? And so it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Right with the All Star Game the way they did it,
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  Speaker 1: it constantly changed doing motions. It will be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see how the Big Twelve delivers in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: how it changes. But as a player, I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you it was an odd feeling, but that it's super
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  Speaker 1: cool to fans and for players you're like, okay, well
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  Speaker 1: it is what it is, right and so but you
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  Speaker 1: know something cool for the fans.
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  Speaker 3: Nonetheless, everyone in Utah knows that the best surface to
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  Speaker 3: play basketball on, by the way, is that old carpet
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  Speaker 3: flooring that you would have at the stake centers back
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  Speaker 3: in the day. That's that's the ideal basketball surface in
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  Speaker 3: my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, basketball we all know this, Sean, right, And
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  Speaker 1: I know you're not a member, but you know basketball
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  Speaker 1: is the official religion of heaven. You know, it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Mormon Church being the only true church. Right, there
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  Speaker 1: is a basketball court in every gym, and so you know.
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  Speaker 1: And but I will say this Sean, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got to play a lot of basketball in those
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  Speaker 1: old carpeted floors, and you know, I was a Catholic
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  Speaker 1: I converted to Mormonism, and having a basketball court and
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  Speaker 1: a hoop that I had access to it pretty much
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  Speaker 1: all day every day may or may not have influenced
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  Speaker 1: my decision to get bap tize.
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  Speaker 2: Sean, Well, it makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 3: And and ironically, I actually I'm not a member of
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  Speaker 3: the LEDs Church. I did grow up doing Scouts and
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  Speaker 3: activities and all that stuff. Shout out to the Buttercup
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  Speaker 3: Chapel down in Sandy. They had the carpeted floor. I
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  Speaker 3: unironically loved playing every sport we played in that building.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was fantastic, including basketball. I guess people
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  Speaker 3: like me who are on athletics, you slip a lot
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  Speaker 3: more on the wooden floors. You don't get to slide
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  Speaker 3: around and slip around on those carpeted floors.
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  Speaker 1: Jt Well, I would say, dis Seawan. You know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people with my career, they say, oh, he
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  Speaker 1: was a professional athlete, and they said, no, sir, I
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  Speaker 1: was a professional basketball player. I had to run from
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  Speaker 1: three point line to three point line, and according to
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  Speaker 1: stats in college, I got a rebound and I went
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  Speaker 1: to the painting about five times, and as a pro
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  Speaker 1: about six times a game. And so I know you
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  Speaker 1: have my symplacy, my friend, because I was a professional
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  Speaker 1: three point shooter, not a professional athlete.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. All right, let's talk about what we're
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  Speaker 2: really here for. BYU.
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  Speaker 3: Basketball is right now, very very hard for me to
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  Speaker 3: figure out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've I drank the kool aid early in
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  Speaker 2: the year.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that roster, I saw the star power and
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  Speaker 3: I saw what aj Devonsa can do when he takes
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  Speaker 3: over a game.
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  Speaker 2: Adding that to right, adding that.
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  Speaker 3: To Richie Saunders, who was really good last year, Keba
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  Speaker 3: being the guy who's willing to do all the dirty work.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this is a deep run tournament team,
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  Speaker 3: and we saw plenty of performances that supported that idea.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, a couple of injuries happen and
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  Speaker 3: some inconsistency rears. It's ugly head and you start to
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  Speaker 3: pay attention to the numbers and you're like, man, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if they have any like seriously meaningful wins
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  Speaker 3: right now, and again you have to start questioning things.
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  Speaker 3: So where are we at with what BYU? With a
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  Speaker 3: couple of games left before we get into tournament time,
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  Speaker 3: with our confidence that this team is going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to figure it out in the short time left.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's set this because I think you
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  Speaker 1: hit on a lot of points, Sean, that all of
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  Speaker 1: them are true at the same time, right, And so
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  Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning, as one does at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the season, with the roster they had. I
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  Speaker 1: firmly believe that drinking the blue Kool aid was totally acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: YU was looking to be most likely one of the
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  Speaker 1: most dominant teams in the country, and we all got
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  Speaker 1: to see that as the seasoning on up intil November December.
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  Speaker 1: At that point, fatigue, injuries, losses started depleting the team
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  Speaker 1: all the way through the month of January and February.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, we also have to call a spade a spade,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, the Big Twelve is arguably the
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  Speaker 1: first or second conference in the country. It is a
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  Speaker 1: gauntlet of a schedule, and so that also plays a
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  Speaker 1: big factor. And then you get to the loss of
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  Speaker 1: Richie Saunders, which shaw I don't remember if we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this or not, but I have a hard time
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  Speaker 1: believing Sean that we're probably going to see another kid,
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  Speaker 1: you know that like Richie Saunders stay on the same
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  Speaker 1: team and develop and get better a year after year.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's a dying breed, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so, and then you get to where
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  Speaker 1: things are now, where you know BYU is kind of
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  Speaker 1: you know, and again I'm going to say that they
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  Speaker 1: look this is my opinion, but they look not very
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  Speaker 1: interested in finishing the Big Twelve. They look like they're
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  Speaker 1: ready for March Madness. Unfortunately, you can get there without
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  Speaker 1: the next two or three games that they well, at
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  Speaker 1: least three games, you know, today against Cincinnati at Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: and then Saturday against Texas Tech, and then one or
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  Speaker 1: two or however many Big twelve tournament games. And so
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  Speaker 1: BI is not in a good spot right now, Sean,
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  Speaker 1: and and there's two reasons. Well, there's two things that
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about. The first one is they
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  Speaker 1: have all the excuses in the world to be losing games.
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  Speaker 1: Nate Pickens was supposed to be the backup point guard
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  Speaker 1: and never suited up for by U this year. Richie
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  Speaker 1: Saunders supposed to be, you know, the face of the program,
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  Speaker 1: done for the year, Dustin Baker's supposed to be their
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  Speaker 1: six men coming off the bench, done for the year.
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  Speaker 1: So they have all of the excuses why they're losing.
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  Speaker 1: The problem has shown how they're losing, and to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you, they're not losing in a good way. Now, well,
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  Speaker 1: is that such a thing as a bad loss? Not well,
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  Speaker 1: kind of in this day and age of metrics. But
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  Speaker 1: they're not playing hard. The effort is lack of days ago,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just very disappointing, right, It's it's difficult. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I work, I'm a BUYU TV analyst and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times it's difficult to maintain, you know, the blue
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  Speaker 1: goggles of being a BYU guy working for a BUYU
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  Speaker 1: a BUYU channel because they don't look good and to
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  Speaker 1: me is a lack of effort. And so I think
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  Speaker 1: everything that you touched on it, it's one hundred percent true.
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  Speaker 1: There are reasons why b y U is not winning,
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  Speaker 1: and they are you know, falling very fast if you will.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, the main thing is Sean just play hard,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like why can't they just play hard? And
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  Speaker 1: and I wish that there was the norm more than
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  Speaker 1: the exception, but right now, you know, it feels like
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  Speaker 1: the exception is that Dager is not playing hard.
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  Speaker 3: Well, playing hard solve these woes in a meaningful way.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like it's nice to see a team play
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  Speaker 3: hard that doesn't have the necessary talent to win big games.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's been games we've watched when Utah basketball
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  Speaker 3: this year played really really hard, but they're just they're
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  Speaker 3: just overmatched, right. They don't have Ja debonsa though, they
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  Speaker 3: don't have Rob Wright, so if those guys, if this
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  Speaker 3: BYU roster plays harder against Cincinnati, I think they can
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  Speaker 3: win that game. Can can a hard playing b YU
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  Speaker 3: roster beat Texas Tech and then win two three games
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  Speaker 3: in the Big twelve Tournament.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. In full trans fantasy, I think
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  Speaker 1: to your point, b YU, if they play hard, they
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  Speaker 1: give themselves a chance to beat Cincinnati. At b YU
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  Speaker 1: plays hard, I still think Texas Tach come out on top. Sean,
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  Speaker 1: I know that you know we're talking about BYU, but
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  Speaker 1: this is a Utah show. We're in the same conference,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you follow, you know, just as much
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  Speaker 1: as not more than I do. Texas Tack looks crazy good,
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  Speaker 1: even without j T toppin, which is scary. And so
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  Speaker 1: as you do that and you have a very emotional
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  Speaker 1: Senior Knight and Freshman night if you will for AJ,
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  Speaker 1: it just beco. It becomes one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh geez, BYU has to play all the
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  Speaker 1: worldly to be able to beat these guys someone you know,
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  Speaker 1: skeptics can say, well JT, but they beat Iowa States.
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  Speaker 1: I STA just didn't play well. And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: time for BYU fans to come to terms of the
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  Speaker 1: fact by you played well against Iowa State, BYU didn't
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  Speaker 1: play b YU played well against Iowa State. Iowall State
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even a shadow of themselves. And so I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's a bit you know, that win to your point,
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  Speaker 1: that's the that's the not symbolic win. That is their
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  Speaker 1: you know, their marquee win of the season. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: put it right there, right, that's their their signature win
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  Speaker 1: of the season. But it's still one of those things
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  Speaker 1: that you're like, geez, you know, is that going to
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  Speaker 1: be enough for them to not just be a nine
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  Speaker 1: or a ten seed? And I'll tell you Sean, if
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  Speaker 1: they don't win, if they don't win a one off
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  Speaker 1: two games of today or Saturday, they're most likely going
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  Speaker 1: to fall to a ten seed in the NCAA tournament. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, relative to the preseason expectation, to the early experts,
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  Speaker 3: how is that going to be handled? I had this
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  Speaker 3: conversation on the show last week. We do this all
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  Speaker 3: the time, championship or bust tournament or bust whatever or bust,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't ever really flesh out what or bust means.
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  Speaker 3: In a lot of cases, it means somebody loses a job.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody at byus in danger of that. We've talked about
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  Speaker 3: this before, but what does it do if you underperform
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  Speaker 3: this way and then you lose AJ and you lose
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  Speaker 3: Rob Wright and you're back to a rebuild. Now, the program,
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  Speaker 3: I still think is in a good place, but we
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  Speaker 3: might never get another year where preseason expectations look like
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  Speaker 3: this for BYU basketball, And if this is the ultimate result, yikes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and I think you're spot on, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. I think that you know, perception is reality, right,
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  Speaker 1: and the perception is BYU Basketball was headed to incredible heights.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is they had a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of missteps during the way that all came because of injuries.
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  Speaker 1: And so the talk track that you're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to go to boosters and donors into the collective is, look, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we have a chance to be special. You give us,
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  Speaker 1: you know, another fifteen million or so or whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is the number that is being thrown out for this roster.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be competitive again. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: Dan at that point, Kevin Young, justin Young and the
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  Speaker 1: entire staff is going to have to go to work,
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  Speaker 1: right and because they're not going to have a marquee
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  Speaker 1: player for the program like Richie Saunders is. They're not
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  Speaker 1: going to have you know, an AJD Bonds are coming in. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: they have a kid that they're recruiting that is a
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  Speaker 1: top five, top ten team and the kid in the country,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly they don't have someone that is going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to be a dominant force and have the
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  Speaker 1: aj aura that that is going to come in, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so it is going it's a very interesting you know,
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  Speaker 1: with this week finishing up the regular season, next week
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  Speaker 1: being the conference tournament, the week after that the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: Tournament starts, and so, you know, I would say to
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  Speaker 1: your point, I agree, Kevin Young is not on the
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  Speaker 1: hot seat. I certainly would, you know, very much say that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if all members of his coaching staff
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  Speaker 1: come back, you know, And I think defense has been atrocious, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's a fair thing to say, because
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Young has said to himself. And so it becomes
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  Speaker 1: one of those things that you're like, Okay, Kevin Young
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  Speaker 1: is not in jeopardy, but is everybody else from the
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff? You know, our day in jeopardy? I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a very fair question to ask. What about the
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  Speaker 1: budget and the efforts that the collectives and the boosters
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  Speaker 1: and the donors are going to have. Are we going
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  Speaker 1: to see the same level of investment come in now
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  Speaker 1: in three weeks, Sean, we may be very well having
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  Speaker 1: a different conversation and go, how about that BYU made
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  Speaker 1: a run in a Big twelve tournament, which I think
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  Speaker 1: is unlikely. What I think is likely is BYU makes
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  Speaker 1: a run and wins a couple of games in the
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  Speaker 1: NCAA tournament and make the Sweet sixteen, and Sean, if
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  Speaker 1: BYU makes this Sweet sixteen, yes, I think that at
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  Speaker 1: that point everything is going to be the same as
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  Speaker 1: it was this year in terms of nil investments. And
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  Speaker 1: there's another word I'm looking for in terms of how
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  Speaker 1: much is going to be put into next season that
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Young is going to be able to work with.
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  Speaker 1: If they can get to the sweet sixteen, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a massive accomplishment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to acknowledge that is still a possibility
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  Speaker 3: because you have one of the three best players in
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  Speaker 3: all of college hoops right now. You have Rob Wright,
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  Speaker 3: who I've heard things that maybe he's you know, the
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  Speaker 3: chemistry is not ideal with him, but he's also going
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  Speaker 3: to be like, all right, this is the last ride.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's get right for the tournament. Players can put
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  Speaker 3: themselves into a you know, a lofty place and an
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  Speaker 3: upcoming NBA draft just with how they perform in an
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  Speaker 3: NCAA tournament. So I think everyone's going to get dialed in.
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  Speaker 3: It's possible that they make that run. And if they do,
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  Speaker 3: I think, like you said, everything kind of comes out
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  Speaker 3: in the wash and we're like, oh, Wow, what a
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  Speaker 3: weird what a weird season this has been, and we'll
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  Speaker 3: probably do what we did with like you know, the
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  Speaker 3: Gimmer teams, like, oh, what would if everyone had been available,
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  Speaker 3: if everyone had been healthy. Imagine what else could have
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  Speaker 3: been possible, if Richie Saunders hadn't got hurt? What else
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  Speaker 3: could have been possible for this BYU basketball team. But
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  Speaker 3: if they end up having like they go out with
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a whimper here, does it change the
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  Speaker 3: recruiting pitch at BYU Because you can be the top
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  Speaker 3: player in the country here, you can be a top
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  Speaker 3: draft pick here, you can make good money here. But
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  Speaker 3: even when we have those things, if we didn't win
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  Speaker 3: at all, do you have to change the recruiting pitch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so, because here's the thing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: for you to win at all, you have a hat.
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  Speaker 1: You have to have a lot of things aligned. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: was talking to Blaine Fowler about a month ago and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty four YU football team that was that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: won the national championship. I don't know if you knew this, Sean,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: but they started the same eleven twelve guys on defense
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: all year longer, and you know they didn't have a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: single injury on the defensive side of the ball all year.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Where's the last time you heard of something like that.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Sean, Well, I'll tell you what I mean. I'll tell you
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: it was the the O four Fiesta Bowl. Utes we
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: had the same thing where everybody played there was one
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: significant injury the whole year, and everyone else stayed healthy.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Like I'm talking offense and defense.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: There was only one like meaningful starter or projected starter
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: that got hurt that was not available everyone else.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: We were lucky. And you make a really good point.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And I think that when you look at that, you
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: know for you to be able to get to that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: final four, you have to stay healthy. You have to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: have a lot of luck, you know, like the ping
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: pong balls no play intended for the jazz and the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: draft and the fiasco that the NBA is handling thanking.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, like you got to have a few
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: things bounce your way. And so I don't think you
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: change your pitch a lot, right, because with the way
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that things were with Jaegor and at the beginning, Kevin
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Young was able to land Ajd bonsa right. And so
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the one thing that I would say, Sean,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that you change your pitch a little bit is on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the construction of the roster, meaning do you go super
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: top heavy or now do you distribute that a little
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: bit more so that instead of having two or three
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of the worldly players, you now have five or six,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you know, guys that are eighty overall and uh, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you lean on the fact that you're going to have
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a roster of excuse me, six or seven guys that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: are you know, seventy five to eighty five overall, rather
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: than you know, have three guys that there are two
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: k ratings are ninety plus. And you know, I'm curious
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to see how Kevin unconstructs the roster next year, because
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: these are fair questions right aside from the Big three
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: WI you had with Rob Right, Aj Debonsa and Ritchie
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Saunders that I would say that those guys wore you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: ninety plus ratings. The drop was significant after debts where
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that Byu has another guy that's an
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: eighty and you know, I would say Kebakata is probably
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: an eighty guy. You know, an eighty ratings type of guy,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: if you're kind of following what I'm saying, but you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: everybody else is in the seventies, and it's a big
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: drop because if you lose one of those guys, it happens.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: What we're seeing right.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Now, Arizona captured the regular season title in the Big
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Twelve with a big Monday win. Are they gonna win
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the Big Twelve tournament?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Also?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: They will be difficult because they gotta face They're gonna
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: have to face Stuck so Stack, They're gonna have to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: face Kansas, they have to think to Iowa State. You know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the conference is stuff, Sean. I mean, look at GCU, right,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: GCU has a chance to win ten games in a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Big twelve conference, which is something that you know, it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it's a difficult BYU is not gonna be b YU
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: will be you know. If BYU win the two games
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: this week, BI is going to be a seventh seedon
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I guarantee, guys, you know. And so they're gonna have
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to play a UCF team that's long and athletic, and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: they have a point guard that can go for thirty
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: at any given point, you know. And so I don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: know if Arizona is able to stay sharp. Because here's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the other thing too, Sean, as you're having to play
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: three games in four days, four games in five days.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: That's also going to take a toll for the NCAA tournament,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: where you're going to have to play two games in
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: less than forty eight hours, right, and that is not
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: easy to do. I can tell you that. And so
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know, I don't know. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: don't even know, Sean, if Arizona is the number one
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: overall seed anymore, which you know, for pretty much three
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: months they were. But I you know, having watched Duke
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: last night, Duke makes a very good case, Sean, to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: be the number one overall seed. And I think the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: path for Duke to win the ACC tournament is less
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: difficult than it is for Arizona to win the Big
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: twelve tournament. And so you know, a lot of implications,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and you know, I am very grateful that the b
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: YU gets to be part of March Matden. They are
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: going to go to the tournament, right. But then to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: your point of earlier, Sean, what could I should have?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: What could have been?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll be asking it, maybe we'll be talking about
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: a great run. We'll just let the games play out.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabernari Blue watching closely. We'll talk about it next
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: time we get a chance.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: JT. Appreciate your time.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Hey, thank you so much for you guys.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Have a great day.
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