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A Taste of Most Beautiful Island · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: This is Amy Simons, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: That was me melting down.
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one.
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  Speaker 4: Million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you want a little taste.
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  Speaker 5: Of the glory?
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  Speaker 6: See what a face like.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 7: Looks like I'm running late again. As it waits, it's
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  Speaker 7: all concrete.
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  Speaker 6: Keep the beat. Always someone to call.
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  Speaker 5: Nowhere to be.
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  Speaker 7: I'm looking for my flyover stick.
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  Speaker 8: Those backyards and great lakes.
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  Speaker 7: I gotta take it easy now. Kentucky, Missouri, Illinois, Ohio
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  Speaker 7: The red.
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  Speaker 6: Ones, the blue ones, the places that.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 8: Look up the way you've gone, the way you've been
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  Speaker 8: away from I'm in a flower stand.
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  Speaker 7: I've found I'm in a flower stand I'm proud What's up?
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  Speaker 7: Welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 8: And we are coming to you once again live via
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  Speaker 8: digital recording from the outskirts.
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  Speaker 7: Of Flyover Film Fest.
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  Speaker 8: And we just went to the second night festivities and
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  Speaker 8: there was food.
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  Speaker 4: So much food.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's how you got roped into this.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure you.
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  Speaker 8: Knew there were movies when you signed on. I was like,
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  Speaker 8: and we get cool fancy food. And you were like, bam, bam,
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  Speaker 8: tickets bought.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I like whipped out my cell phone like that second.
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  Speaker 8: I haven't finished telling you what it is yet. And
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  Speaker 8: you're like, food, bam, done. And there's movies.
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  Speaker 7: Never mind.
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  Speaker 4: And it said tasting.
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  Speaker 7: And we got there.
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  Speaker 4: And there is like a buffet spread. I got like
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  Speaker 4: the first. Fattest chicken wing I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 7: And what was it stacked on?
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  Speaker 6: A waffle.
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  Speaker 7: Damn straight it was.
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  Speaker 4: With adobe spices, which I got all in one bite.
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  Speaker 7: I was eating the chicken.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, there's no spices. And then I took
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  Speaker 4: another bite and I was like.
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  Speaker 7: See, no, it doesn't seem so.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, when I got there and it seemed like
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  Speaker 8: a very classy event, the taste of flyover. And then
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  Speaker 8: I wanted to ask for a Mountain Dew. And you
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  Speaker 8: were like, I'm just not classy.
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  Speaker 7: Enough for this place.
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  Speaker 8: But when they're serving chicken and waffles, I don't know
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  Speaker 8: if they can pull that on me. It was fancy
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  Speaker 8: chicken and waffles, but still.
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  Speaker 4: They had meatloaf balls.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, those were pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: They were good.
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  Speaker 7: Again, that is right up our alley.
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  Speaker 4: And chips.
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  Speaker 7: What were those chips?
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  Speaker 4: They were just regular kettle chips, house-made kettle chips.
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  Speaker 7: I was trying to get the entire rundown here of
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  Speaker 7: how they described some of these fancy foods.
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  Speaker 4: They said something about pickles. And I was like, where's
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  Speaker 4: the pickles?
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  Speaker 7: I think that was the salsa-y type thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the salsa-y type thing. I guess it was pickled vegetables.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was like a little smidgen of kimchi
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  Speaker 4: on the deviled egg.
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  Speaker 7: That was the one as we got into our kimchi.
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  Speaker 7: But let me see. Where's our breakthrough? I was looking
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  Speaker 7: for the food. It just says Smokin' Pickles. That's the
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  Speaker 7: name of his cookbook.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Smokin' Pickles.
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  Speaker 8: That was not Jason Lee as I kept trying to
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  Speaker 8: do it, but it's Chef Edward Lee. I still think
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  Speaker 8: doing kickflips and eating pickles.
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  Speaker 4: He looks like he does all the skateboards. Chef Edward Lee.
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  Speaker 4: Got the long hair and the skate shoes.
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  Speaker 7: He's a cool kid, I can tell.
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  Speaker 4: Does hair flips and stuff. I think I just saw
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  Speaker 4: something that said smoking pickles, and I was like, I'm in. Done.
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  Speaker 7: Take a spot.
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  Speaker 4: You might have just said, started the word food. You
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  Speaker 4: might have just been like, food, and I was like, gone.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, what other weird things were on there? There was...
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  Speaker 7: There were the edamame? Edamame?
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  Speaker 4: Stuff that we.
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  Speaker 7: Didn't eat fancy i can't even pronounce.
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  Speaker 4: There was a giant shrimp on top of some other
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  Speaker 4: thing we.
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  Speaker 8: We skipped over that key factor as well um you
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  Speaker 8: were like shrimp and kept going and i was like
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  Speaker 8: i totally would eat a shrimp but i'm already trying
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  Speaker 8: to hold this plate in this other thing and we
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  Speaker 8: didn't have cafeteria trays which i did specifically bring up
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  Speaker 8: as we were eating that would have been easier for
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  Speaker 8: me to pile stuff on there and been looking for
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  Speaker 8: my jello and whatever else right But no, no, it
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  Speaker 8: was just sort of grabbed the plate. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 8: I don't need that cup with a shrimp in it.
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  Speaker 8: What I neglected to notice was that was also the
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  Speaker 8: cup that had the.
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  Speaker 7: Fork stuck in it.
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  Speaker 4: The only forks available.
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  Speaker 8: And you also bypassed it. So we got outside to
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  Speaker 8: go sit down at a table and I'm like, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 8: we don't have utensils.
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  Speaker 7: So I believe you used the word barbarians at one
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  Speaker 7: point as a description about us. And then we followed suit.
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  Speaker 9: So.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, just sitting outside eating with our hands.
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  Speaker 4: And only you had a napkin. I was just chilling.
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  Speaker 7: I'm relatively sophisticated, I'd like to say.
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  Speaker 4: The upper part of my leggings may have served as.
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  Speaker 7: You are very sophisticated.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So, but yeah, I balanced it out.
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  Speaker 8: I tried to do as best I could to use
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  Speaker 8: chips as a utensil and balance things on bread to
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  Speaker 8: get it to my face and eventually we had to
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  Speaker 8: hose ourselves down afterwards but we got fancy food out
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  Speaker 8: of the deal so that's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Sure did. Two movies and some gourmet ass food for
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  Speaker 4: 25 bucks.
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  Speaker 7: So you got fancy lemonade.
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  Speaker 4: I did. I got fancy lemonade and it wasn't even
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  Speaker 4: that expensive especially for like pre-event drinks. Usually they're like
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  Speaker 4: $ 8 for some like you know well alcohol and like
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  Speaker 4: nothing else. And this was like, this like finely, finely mixed, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, peach lemonade with whiskey. And it was very good.
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  Speaker 8: Once again, they're putting together an impressive program here at
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  Speaker 8: the Louisville Film Society because fancy food. I have not
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  Speaker 8: gotten that at a previous event. Again, maybe I'm just sheltered.
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  Speaker 7: Or I don't leave the house. That's the nicer way
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  Speaker 7: of putting it.
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  Speaker 4: Although it did almost make me fall asleep before the movie.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you were snuggled up on the floor
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  Speaker 7: with a blankie. Eventually, they were like, get up. Came
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  Speaker 7: around and kicked you.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I'm fermenting.
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  Speaker 7: I'm fermenting.
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  Speaker 8: So, yes, we did learn a lot about fermenting and
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  Speaker 8: some about raising cows.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, about raising animals in a way that is symbiotic
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  Speaker 4: with nature.
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  Speaker 7: And taking care of the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It's all about the soil, man.
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  Speaker 6: You feed the soil.
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  Speaker 4: The soil feeds the grass. The grass feeds the animals.
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  Speaker 4: And then the animals feed us.
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  Speaker 7: That guy was pretty entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: He was. I love his line about foghorn leghorn. I
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  Speaker 4: was just like, yes.
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  Speaker 8: So that one, the short film that led off the
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  Speaker 8: program is 100,000 Beating Hearts. And it's actually pretty damn entertaining.
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  Speaker 8: And I think the director said it's available on his website, so.
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  Speaker 8: Or if not, he's got a whole bunch of other
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  Speaker 8: films there.
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  Speaker 6: What was it?
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  Speaker 4: Soybean Soil and Cowboys or Soybean Soil and Cowboys something.
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  Speaker 4: It has to do with soil and cowboys. Dirtycowboys.com You
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  Speaker 4: can Google that.
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  Speaker 7: I take no responsibility for what you find. Or maybe
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  Speaker 7: you're into it. You're a call man. Go look for
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  Speaker 7: whatever you need to. I think it's Peter Bick. B-Y-C-K.
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  Speaker 7: So just Google that. You'll find it. I'm sure he'll
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  Speaker 7: have a link to his other crazy films.
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  Speaker 4: But his this was pretty damn interesting yeah it was
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  Speaker 4: good i was definitely um not expecting that much out
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  Speaker 4: of it like i didn't really go in with any
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  Speaker 4: expectations but um yeah but i know what suckered you
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  Speaker 4: but uh i was pretty impressed with like how uh
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  Speaker 4: even though it was, you know, 15 minutes, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: longer than a normal short film, it was, like, very well-rounded.
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  Speaker 4: It had, like, a clear, like, it had a lot of, like,
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  Speaker 4: good character development, like, really let him speak for himself.
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  Speaker 8: Focus, too, for that kind of, again, normally you don't
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  Speaker 8: get enough time invested to get, especially something that's semi-documentary
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  Speaker 8: kind of a thing, it's like you barely get enough
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  Speaker 8: time to get invested in somebody, but, again, it's so
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  Speaker 8: focused on this guy, and he's got a very specific,
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  Speaker 8: you know, train of thought, and, like, how his life
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  Speaker 8: has changed in the last, you know, 30 years or so,
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  Speaker 8: and then how he's, like, looking to the future to
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  Speaker 8: try to fix some of the things going wrong and still, like,
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  Speaker 8: live the life that he likes to live.
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  Speaker 7: So, it's pretty interesting. And now, fermented.
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  Speaker 4: Fermented.
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  Speaker 7: Cheese and stuff. Whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Cheese and bacteria.
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  Speaker 2: Milk. Beer.
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  Speaker 7: Those, I don't know, I.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know some of the things that were in
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  Speaker 4: that movie were fermented foods. That's true.
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  Speaker 7: It is very educational.
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  Speaker 4: It's anthropological is what it is.
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  Speaker 7: More than anything, I.
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  Speaker 8: Think what I took away from it is how well
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  Speaker 8: shot it was. It was gorgeous.
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  Speaker 4: It really was a very pretty movie.
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  Speaker 7: That director is, oh Lord, I can't pronounce his last name.
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  Speaker 7: Jonathan Cianfrani? Cianfrani?
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  Speaker 4: I'll say it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Cianfrani?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say Cianfrani. Cianfrani.
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  Speaker 7: Good luck with that. Just, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Cianfrani.
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  Speaker 7: The name of the movie is fermented. Just Google that
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  Speaker 7: if you're interested.
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  Speaker 8: And, yeah, he devoted a lot of time to just
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  Speaker 8: finding good shots and, like, looking for, like, really interesting
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  Speaker 8: color schemes. Like, I was more taken with the visuals sometimes.
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm supposed to be learning things, but.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very, like, if there was no audio, like,
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  Speaker 4: I could probably just kind of, like, watch it, and
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  Speaker 4: it would probably, like, soothe me a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Or maybe put me to sleep, you know?
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  Speaker 7: Well, most... That's what I'm going to say.
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  Speaker 4: Like, especially the kneading of the dough and stuff.
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  Speaker 10: I was like, yes.
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  Speaker 8: I guess it's good that it is telling sort of
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  Speaker 8: interesting facts along the way, too, because I... I don't
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  Speaker 8: watch a lot of cooking shows because I kind of
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  Speaker 8: zone out. And this one will get, actually he said
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  Speaker 8: he backs off from the science, but again, it gets
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  Speaker 8: super technical as to why things are doing what they're
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  Speaker 8: doing or why the person wants it to do what.
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  Speaker 7: It's doing to get to the fermented state.
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  Speaker 8: And like, I think it would have been really easy
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  Speaker 8: to just kind of like zone out and especially to
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  Speaker 8: look at the images and not pay attention.
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  Speaker 7: But they are telling kind of interesting stories along the way.
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  Speaker 7: So that helps.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think that it was like not even
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  Speaker 4: concentrating on the science or like even about fermenting.
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  Speaker 8: Or even like the cooking part. Again, it's not like
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  Speaker 8: a cooking show really. It just sets it up like
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  Speaker 8: you're coming in to learn about food. But it then
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  Speaker 8: takes it in more.
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  Speaker 7: Of a documentary version of food.
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  Speaker 4: And more of like a people and culture. Yeah. A
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  Speaker 4: very ethnographic perspective on like, not about fermenting itself, but
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  Speaker 4: it's like, why do these people ferment? What is fermenting
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  Speaker 4: to them? Like, how long has fermenting been in their family?
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Generations.
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  Speaker 4: And generations.
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  Speaker 7: Hundreds and hundreds of years for some.
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  Speaker 4: I loved learning how old the food was. When they
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  Speaker 4: were like, how old is this batch? Oh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a year and a half. And I would be like, ew.
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  Speaker 4: And they would just eat it.
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  Speaker 8: That's the thing like sometimes they'd get super like hippie
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  Speaker 8: like on this stuff and i'm like you know it's
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  Speaker 8: just about this type of food and that's how you
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  Speaker 8: and i'm just like.
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  Speaker 7: Or not i don't know just like i'm trying not
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  Speaker 7: to be a normal closed-minded modern person who's just like
• 14:02
  Speaker 7: but health codes.
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  Speaker 4: You know yeah i mean i like what they talk
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  Speaker 4: about like community and culture and tradition when they start
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  Speaker 4: talking about like kind of like you know the connection
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  Speaker 4: with nature i kind of like drop off a little
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  Speaker 4: bit and but I appreciated that in the Q &
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  Speaker 4: A like when they when that guy was like yeah
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  Speaker 4: like spiritualness and like you know monastic traditions Edward Lee
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  Speaker 4: was just kind of like I just want people to
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  Speaker 4: go ferment stuff yeah I just want him to go
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  Speaker 4: home and make some bread like just like real down-to-earth.
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  Speaker 8: Chill about it that was yeah that was kind of
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  Speaker 8: my favorite take on it was the fact that they
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  Speaker 8: weren't really worried about all of that like he was
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  Speaker 8: more interested in the stories and like And I do agree, like,
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  Speaker 8: back to the, like, the health code part of it, like,
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  Speaker 8: he even sort of addressed, like, I do, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: there are reasons to have all that stuff in place,
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  Speaker 8: but I like that Lee was just kind of like,
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  Speaker 8: but it's my kitchen?
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  Speaker 7: Like, I do kind of like that freedom, like, as.
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  Speaker 8: Long as the people coming to your business understand who
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  Speaker 8: you are, understand the practices you want to do, like,
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  Speaker 8: maybe you have, like, a loophole of like, yeah, but
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  Speaker 8: this is the way this food needs to be.
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  Speaker 7: Prepared to be what I'm trying to make.
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  Speaker 8: And these people want to eat what I'm trying to like,
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  Speaker 8: as long as everybody's aware and it's all, you know, cool.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's side on a waiver on the way in, but
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  Speaker 4: it's like everyone's eating pickles every day. So why isn't
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  Speaker 4: the health code all freaking out about pickles?
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  Speaker 7: But they're sealed jars. Yeah. I saw one in a
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  Speaker 7: bag earlier this week.
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  Speaker 4: I saw one in a bag.
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  Speaker 7: Pickle in a bag. We are fancy. So those are
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  Speaker 7: both interesting. Before we move on to this week's guest. Hey, Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Have you seen any movies lately?
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  Speaker 4: I sure have.
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  Speaker 2: Alrighty.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I done saw that movie about the apes.
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: Them talking apes?
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Them talking apes.
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: Speaking of documentaries, that's a real thing.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen this one, so I guess don't totally
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: ruin it.
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  Speaker 4: No, I won't ruin it.
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  Speaker 7: I know where it's going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: More or less. In the big picture, I kind of
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: know where it's going.
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  Speaker 4: So I was deciding whether I wanted to see Planet
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: of the Apes, Baby Driver, or The Big Sick this week.
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  Speaker 4: And I chose Planet of the Apes because I was like,
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  Speaker 4: it's summer, I want to see a blockbuster. And I
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: went and I saw it. And I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: ruin anything. And I'm not going to like... I'm not
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: trying to scare anyone away, but I was like, God,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: were the other ones as cheesy as this?
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  Speaker 7: My goodness.
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  Speaker 8: I really liked that second one. I think the first
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: one was pretty clunky. The first half, getting into it. Now,
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  Speaker 8: the big battle on the... We've actually discussed how much
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: that big battle on the bridge doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 8: But that aside, that's a pretty epic battle. The stuff
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: looks kind of cool.
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  Speaker 7: I'll give you that. Yeah, epic battles, cool.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 7: For the epic, you know... grandiose of that one is
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  Speaker 7: fine i think the second one has a great story
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  Speaker 7: to tell i think you do get surprising amount of
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  Speaker 7: character development.
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  Speaker 8: And mostly from the ape side of it so it's
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  Speaker 8: like the humans are the least interesting characters so that
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: second one like i was surprised how good it.
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  Speaker 4: Was i liked uh yeah i liked it that was
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: that one was right Dawn and Rise.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: They seem backwards, yeah. To me.
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  Speaker 4: Or is it Rise and then Dawn?
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: I think it's Rise and then Dawn.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so Dawn.
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: Because it seems like it should be the other way
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: to me.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, okay.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: Whatever, it's not my movies. Got you.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I like Dawn. Definitely agree on the character development. War,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: not as much character development. They shoehorned this weird comedic
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: relief character in there that I did not appreciate.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I thought.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I just did not... I just did not give a
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: fuck about that. I mean, I'm sorry to curse on
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: your show and everything.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Oh, we never fucking say fucking words. But, um... Never.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't think that there
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: was a lot of character development in... I mean, I
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: guess maybe there are already developed characters, but it would
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: have just been nice to have a little more... I
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: don't know. A little more story to tell than this...
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: It was really basic. The storytelling, it followed one clear... And,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: you know, it's War of the Planet of the Apes,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: so obviously there's some death. And the death scenes were
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: some of the, just like the sweeping strings and all
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: of the new, you know, all the sadness. And it
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: just was.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: There's sometimes when that, if that fits the tone of
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: what's going on overall, I can get into it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: But yeah, there are times when it, I guess I'll
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: have to see it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Is it a different director? Because I was like, this
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: is not the same. This is not the same to me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: And there's not as much cool action going on. Not
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of cool ape action.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: Which it seems like there should be since it's a war.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: It's like in the beginning there's some, you know, there's
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: like a battle. And in the very end there's some more.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: But it's not like they really utilized all of the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: cool shit apes can do. Like they did in the
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: first and second ones.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: Okay. It is Matt Reeves on Dawn. Let's see. I
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: feel like that was coming back.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Matt Reeves, whatever you did. I mean, I'm not saying
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: that I hated it. I was just like, this is
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: not what I came to see.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: How's that Andy Serkis treating you?
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: The what?
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Andy Serkis.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Andy Serkis?
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: The star of all movies.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: As long as he puts little dots on his head
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: in a funny outfit. He's the star of all movies.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: So Andy Serkis is Caesar?
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: And Gollum and King Kong. You name it. Any CGI character,
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: there he is. Again, I was amazed with it last
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: time around.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, it looks great.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: Looks great.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Matt Reeves. Directed by War of the Planet of
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: the Apes.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I just didn't like it as much. That's all.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: I don't know what Matt's up to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: It felt like he just wrapped up the trilogy and
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: it's like a shit bow.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: Didn't like the shit bow.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: Because that's the thing. I already heard somebody saying they
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: felt like it was almost... not capping things off the
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: way that they would have liked because they feel like
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: they're dragging it out for another movie.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: They are dragging it out for another movie?
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, if this still made decent money, right? I
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: feel like the second one did pretty well. So it's like,
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: if they're making enough money, I'm sure they'll try to make.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: An extra one.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Weird.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Trilogies aren't enough these days. You gotta have a series.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: That's right. You have to have a universe.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: An entire... Oh, what's the shared universe? What's the other
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: one gonna be?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Terminator.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: Terminator comes, drops down naked in the middle of the
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: Planet of the Apes.
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: I'm okay with this. We need to work this into our.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I think that could save what's happening with Planet of the.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: Apes right now.
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: That's like when we did our little weird remakes episode recently.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: Now we need to do shared universes and start mixing
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: universes together.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: See what we come up with. Okay. I'm filing that
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: away for a future episode.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: Well, I also saw a movie in the middle of
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: all the craziness going on this past weekend.
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: I did take time... I can't read what I wrote down.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: I do have to write it down, because from the beginning,
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: I was like, that looks amazing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: That's not a good title for a movie at all.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Valerian in the City of a Thousand Planets.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Planets, planets.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: That's dumb as fuck.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: That's not a good thing to call your movie. I.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: It's just that part's weird. I really love the movie.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: It was great. It's just fun for the sake of fun.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: It doesn't sound fun.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: Well, but it's.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Luc Besson doing his crazy thing, which I'm like, I
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: kind of like a little bit crazy Luc Besson.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: I've realized that now.
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: It's basically an unofficial sequel to Fifth Element.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: It is just.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: fifth element through and through even to the point of
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: having a big musical performance in the middle of it
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: which I'm like that was sort of a very different
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: thing that happened in the middle of fifth element and
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: it happens here too so it's similar in like sort
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: of overall ways but it's not you know there are
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: no characters it's not any it's actually the only way
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: it's really a true somewhat of a more of a
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: remake actually in the beginning he wanted to take this
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: I believe it's a French comic that he was inspired
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: by and wanted to make a movie version of that
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: comic and couldn't do it, and instead just came up
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: with his own crazy story and did The Fifth Element. Now,
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: it's many years later, he's got a lot more backing
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: behind him. He went back and made the original.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: Property, which is this movie.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: So it is the thing that inspired him to make
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: his own independent version of this same kind of idea.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: It's very twisty and turny.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: Again, it feels like it's in the shared universe. So
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: I'm up. And that's what I realized going into this.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: I'm like this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: If you are one of the people that jumped on
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: that bandwagon and wanted to hate John Carter of Mars,
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: like you're probably not going to like it. I was
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: one of the few sitting in the theater going, this
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: is fun. Like this is old school movie cereal fun.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: And that's all it's trying to be. It's not trying
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: to be anything more than us. Like really extreme over
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: the top. crazy visuals, crazy characters doing these like nonstop
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: action kind of stuff. Like that's what you're looking for
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: in that kind of thing.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: Why would you go see something like John Carter and
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: not expect that? So that's kind of the same thing
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: as we get into this one. It's based on a
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: crazy French comic book. And like that to me is
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: like he bust out this crazy, super futuristic universe and
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: all these different aliens and all these weird, like you
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: get into like a parallel universe where you go shopping
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: and it's like layers upon layers of crazy stuff going on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I wish I could only shop in a parallel universe. Well,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: eventually you get to set your stuff on.
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: You have to put it through a thing and it
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: brings you your stuff and it's very complex.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: It's like Amazon Prime.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: To the point, yeah, it kind of is.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Like a wormhole straight to your door.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: But it is one of those, I'm like, it may
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: be way more complex than normal people want to deal
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: with because I'm going through and I'm making... I'm making
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: an effort, but I'm piecing everything together. I'm like, this
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: all logically makes sense. Everything works. But I'm like, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: had to put a little effort into it, which is
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: not how most people are when they go to the
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: movies or sit at home on their couch or live life.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: So it's like it may not be for everyone.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: I don't pretend like it is.
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: I do want to say as I got midway in, though,
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: like why it's not Laureline and Valerian, because I think
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: that's even the series of comics became called that. But
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: I'm like, she's equally as much the story like it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: the two of them. And at some point, like, he
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: disappears and she's looking for him. So I'm like, she's
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: kind of our lead now. Why are we still naming
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: it after him and a big giant satellite planet city thing?
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Because he is a dick.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: I guess.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: I'm like, but that's, like, to me, she's kind of
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: more of the big star at this point. Like, she's
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: quickly turned into, like, an actual person.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: Cara Delevingne. Yeah, I know that name.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Supermodel girl.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, she's turned into, like, a big.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: Pretty major star i mean you come off of something
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: giant like suicide squad oscar winner suicide squad but like
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: coming into this like again she's pulling in pretty high
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: profile roles at this point so i'm.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: Like she's equally as much the lead of this movie
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: if you ask me and i don't have a problem
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: with dane but to me like that's the thing dane
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: dahan is like fine he's very serviceable in this but like.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Serviceable well yeah he's just our he's our sounds like
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: a real insult he's our main you're serviceable he's.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: A functional leading man like he's just there to be
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: our I mean it was the same thing with John
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: Carter did anybody line up to give that guy more
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: movie roles after that no I think he's fine in
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: it but like he's what you need in a role
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: like that he's just our guy and he does his
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: thing and he's this guy he's pretty cocky he's pretty
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: likable like you know that's what you need out of
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: this comic book kind of a role And like, he's,
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: he does it well. But again, I think she kind
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: of steals the spotlight a little more. I do look
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: at him and go, I can see her going on
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: and being, to me, I was watching her going, she's
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: got a lot of Emma Stone in her quirks. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: I'm like, Emma Stone just like bumped herself up to
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: a whole nother level price wise. So I'm like, now
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: you can't afford Emma Stone. You got your girl, right?
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: Your car can come in. And for a reasonable price,
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: I'm guessing compared to Emma Stone. So I'm like, I think,
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: everybody kind of graduates up to a different level. That's
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: what I kept saying with like the, the Idris Elba thing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: I'm like, he's now moved into Denzel Washington's old roles.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: Like Denzel aged out, probably priced out much like that.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: And now like, we need another guy to come in
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: and kind of have that weight to him and take
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: over this role. And I'm like, that's what happens. Like
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: Hollywood has continually done that to its stars since it started.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: So it's like, that's, that's what it's doing. So I,
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: and that's not an insult. I think Emma Stone's awesome.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: So I'm like, That's the thing. She's like the new
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: Emma Stone. Not that they're that different in age, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: I'm like, she's just, you can, when you can't get Emma,
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: this is, this is your fallback plan. And she looks
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: kind of crazy now. Everything I see her on, she's
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: always got a crazy different look. Again, I guess you
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: grow up with a model that happens. Like she always
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: has different hair. She always has some sort of weird look.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: She's always wearing something very odd.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: So like, I think.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I like the Lady Gaga phase.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: I think I like the unpredictability of her just as, again,
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: you get such boring celebrities. So when you get one
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: that's just like, I don't really care. I don't give
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: a fuck about any of this nonsense. Like, I'm just
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: doing what I want to do.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, I respect that. Sometimes it goes too far,
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: but I respect a little healthy dose of that. So, yeah,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I really liked it. So if you like.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Those kind of crazy over-the-top movies, I can't imagine you
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: liking Fifth Element and not.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Liking this, but I don't know. People get super picky.
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: What's funny is now that, I mean, he did a
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: lot of pretty groundbreaking visuals and special effects type stuff
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: in Fifth Element. Now we've just had years and years
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: to improve upon the technology.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: So like it all looks pretty good now.
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of CG stuff thrown in there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: So again, if you get CG fatigue, keep that in mind.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: But again, why would you go to this movie if
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: you have problems with CG? It's set in the massive,
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: massive future. Obviously.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Planet of the Apes instead.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, see? Set massively long ago in the past. Or not.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: Possibly in the future. We don't know. We haven't finished
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: the time loop yet. It's all a time loop. Life
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: is a time loop.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Let's go watch Interstellar.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Do we have to get to the end, though?
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I can make it to the end.
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: Why do they always have to end it with some
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: sort of trippy nonsense? We can't ever just go into
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: space and it's just space. It's always got to get.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: Super metaphysical, man.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: Mysteries of the universe unravel.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: Or you just die in the icy cold of space.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: How about that? That's probably what really happens. All sci-fi
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: movies want to get super trippy. Or at least those
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: self-serious ones. They all got to get into the mysteries
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: of the universe.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Well, you try, like, all these visits, learning all the
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: cool shit about space-time and bending and stuff, and how,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: you know, time is relative everywhere, and, like, you smoke
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: one joint, and you're going down that rabbit, that black hole.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: All I took from that... And then you're.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Coming out the other side, and then you're in a tesseract.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: All I took from that was the bender, and then
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: I was just, like, biting my shiny metal ass. I
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: just started thinking about Futurama reruns well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: We'll make our own sci-fi movie with hookers and blackjack what?
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: Is this on a casino boat? it's another bender quote
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: oh okay I'll take that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Or is it Blackjacks and Hookers? Which one goes first?
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Whichever you want.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: It was Blackjacks and Hookers. That one sounds better.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: Whichever you want.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: On that note, let's take a break.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: On that note, by my shiny metal ass.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: We will take a break.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: And when we come back, we will have this week's guest.
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: And they have no affiliation with any of this previous nonsense.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Is blue it makes me cry because.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: The sky.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: This is a dill pickle, a mighty pretty pickle, especially
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: when he joins you at the show. We have lots
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of pretty pickles waiting for you at the refreshment center.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: They're plump, tender, mouth-watering. Wouldn't one taste good right now?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: An army of deadly predators, searching, destroying anything in their path.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Is it where Colby is?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: He's found another 20 or 30 hills just like the
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: one we burned. Why did they come? What do they want?
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: Spiders in this area have organized themselves.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Into an aggressive army.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: William Shatner. Tiffany Bowling, your nightmares will never be the same.
• 31:25
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• 31:33
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• 31:36
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• 32:00
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• 32:04
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• 32:07
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• 32:27
  Speaker 6: I'll take every cent you've made.
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: So, you guys know we're broke, right?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: We're always broke.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: And yet we're trying to put this show together.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: Now how the hell can we keep the show rolling
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: if we're broke and we.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Can't do this?
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: Sell special fiddle fowl.
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: Oh.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: Or instead, murder people.
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: Are you just taking random money out of their pockets?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: Hopefully it won't come to that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: Especially if they're peeping. Some people will get on board
• 33:04
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• 33:05
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• 33:07
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: So this week's special guest is actress and now writer
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: and director Anna Asensio. Her film Most Beautiful Island tells
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: the story of an undocumented immigrant who, out of necessity,
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: takes many unusual jobs to survive. But we also see
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: what happens when she gets desperate enough to accept a
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: mysterious offer that leads her into the unseen and potentially
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: sinister underbelly of New York City. Now what becomes even
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: more impressive about this is this is Anna's directorial debut.
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: While she's been acting for years, this story pushed her
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: into a whole new world where, on this film, she
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: has now become the writer, and a producer, and the director,
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: and as if all of that weren't enough of an undertaking,
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: she also wanted to shoot the film in 16mm, in
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: the middle of New York City. So if nothing else,
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: this would have all been an amazing story, but as
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: it turns out, it's a pretty amazing movie as well.
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: considering it was the winner of the Grand Jury Award
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: at South by Southwest this year, as well as the
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: terrific response we got from the sold-out crowd here at Flyover.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: And it's definitely a film worth seeking out. So join
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: me now as I sit down and talk with the
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: film's lead actress, writer, producer, and director, Anna Asensio. So
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: where did the idea come from for Most Beautiful Island?
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: Well, I wanted to write a story that I knew of,
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: like to write from the truth. So I was, at
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: a time in my life, I was transitioning from a
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: student visa into a working visa. And that period extended
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: to so many months to the point that I ran
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: out of money. And I couldn't leave the country because
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: you lose the opportunity to gain your permit. And then
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: also there was no guarantee that I was going to
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: get my... my water permit after spending all my remaining
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: savings into the application. So at that time, I found
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: myself in this vulnerable place, both outside and inside, right?
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: The city is brutal in many ways. And I haven't
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: been able to make friends at that time. My English
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: was still pretty rough. And so, you know, altogether, it
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: was a challenging time.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: And very vulnerable.
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: And so I found myself doing things that I would
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: have never done if I left my, if I wouldn't
• 37:52
  Speaker 10: have ever left my, my country.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: Um, and so there was an event that this will
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: happen to me in which a woman offered me a
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: job for one party and Halloween party is something that
• 38:06
  Speaker 10: seemed to be pretty easy. Um, and that thing ended
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: up being something else. So, It is not exactly what
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: happened in the film, but the core of that situation
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: is what inspired me to tell that story. And I
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: wanted to tell it in one day and see moment
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: to moment where were the steps leading up to that
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: moment and that decision and how that happened and how
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: someone who does not belong to this world ended up
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: being in that place. So I just was kind of
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: like wanting to tell the story, that story and in
• 38:40
  Speaker 10: that kind of way.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: Does it, again, it's telling a very specific story from
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: your perspective. Is it just telling that story or is
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: it kind of offering a bigger picture? Like, does it
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: have a better way to deal with things? Cause again,
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: you ended up in a bad situation more or less.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Is it trying to find a better way that maybe
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: people don't have to get to that point of desperation
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: or is it just kind of focusing on that story?
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: You know, I, I, didn't intend to make any statement.
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: I just wanted to tell a story that I thought
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: it could be compelling and in a way, you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: eye-opening to sometimes the perception that we.
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: Have of the immigrants.
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: And there's many, many immigrants in different kind of like
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: levels and situations and they all share the vulnerability of
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: being you know out of their element and in this
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: case undocumented which makes you even more vulnerable right so
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: it kind of like I wanted to tell this specific
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: story about this specific type of immigration that is not
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: a It's not better or worse or more challenging than others.
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: It's just the one that I knew.
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: And somehow I never saw it on the screen or
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: anywhere else.
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, there is, especially for a lot of
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: people that are just born here, and I think there's
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: a lot of stuff that goes on that it's under
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: the surface and they just don't know one.
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: Way or the other.
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: Like, they're not even aware that these things are going on,
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: even like the not quite as scary as it ends
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: up being sometimes. Just some of the desperation that I
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: think it leads to people, I think.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: A lot of U.S.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: Citizens are just sort of unaware of it all and
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: kind of oblivious to it all. So I think it
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: is kind of interesting to throw this out there for
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: them to kind of get a different view of everything.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: So then you'd been acting for years. What was it
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: specifically about the story that kind of pushed it over?
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, I guess you could have just told this
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: story to somebody else and said, write this for me or.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Direct this for me.
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: But what pushed you into wanting to take on like
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: both of those challenges because it's kind of a lot
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: to handle all at one.
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: Time true and I think you know one of the
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: motivations for me to go ahead and write the story
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: in the first place was the fact that as an
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: actor you don't have any control of your career and
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: you know I think that if I would have been
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: a very successful actress probably I would never have made
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: this step But it's kind of like when you are
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: a struggling actor, which was my case in U.S. I
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: was a working actress in my country, but in New
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: York was not the case. So kind of like it
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: made me think I, you know, I'm not going to
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: be waiting for the opportunity because the opportunity might never come.
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: I mean, the chances are pretty small.
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: I mean, the percentage of. actors who actually get a break.
• 41:28
  Speaker 10: So I thought, you know, I want to, I don't
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: want to give up because this is my true passion. Um,
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: but I want to make it, I want to gain
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: some sort of control. So by writing a story that I,
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: from the beginning, I knew I was going to direct.
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: And acting it was kind of like making my whole
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: purpose all together and knowing that no matter how long.
• 41:50
  Speaker 11: It will take me, I had a path and a road.
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: And sure, I could go to an audition or do
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: this little role here and there, but I had a
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: bigger project that I, you know, it was kind of
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: like feeding my soul, thinking that I could do something
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: greater than what I maybe was going to receive from
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: others maybe.
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: And then as far as directing... Had you just, again,
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: you've been exposed to it for years.
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: Were you just sort of picking it up as you
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: went along, watching other directors over the years?
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: Well, actually, it was more about.
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: Studying films that I love. So I've been a film
• 42:26
  Speaker 10: lover since, I guess, since I discovered films in original version,
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: because I grew up with watching films dubbed. And then
• 42:33
  Speaker 10: once I discovered that there were more truth to that
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: than what i saw originally it was like oh wow
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: this actually opens a whole other world and it's just so.
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: What were some of the favorites early on that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: You like so you know um i became a huge
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: fan of kiflowski christoph kiflowski and so when i discovered
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: his trilogy and also the decalogue was like a huge
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: you know blew my mind like whoa that is filmmaking
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: in such an interesting way. So I, on those films,
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: I watched them over and over for many years. I
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: studied them. I really, I'm a huge fan. So that
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: kind of like truthful filmmaking, but also, I mean, the
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: score that he used in his films bring an element.
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: Of, you know, cinema. So it's not a documentary, but
• 43:27
  Speaker 11: it Kind of like borderline with that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: So that to me, that kind of filmmaking was a
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: huge inspiration at the time, even though I didn't know
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: that I was going to become a film director.
• 43:37
  Speaker 11: But I knew that the way I was.
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: Watching the films were beyond just a regular audience or
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: just an actor looking at the performances.
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: It's affecting you a little more.
• 43:48
  Speaker 11: It was affecting me, yeah, in a greater, deeper level.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: So then is it something that you've really taken with?
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Is that something you kind of want to push more
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: towards now? even more so maybe choosing directing roles over
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: acting at this point.
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: Well I have discovered with this directing opportunity that it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: so fulfilling it's a lot of work it has nothing
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: to do with acting right I mean not to discourage
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: acting but it's just like taking the role of a director,
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: you just have so much in your mind.
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: It's 24 hours a day.
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and for a very long time because it's the pre-production,
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: the production, and then the post-production that could last a
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: long time. So, you know, it's just very fulfilling and
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: rewarding when things come out right, right? So I'm definitely
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: going to continue directing and, you know, I continue acting.
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: I want to see what comes to me.
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: I don't want to be knocking on doors doors as
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: hard anymore just because I kind of like got tired
• 44:50
  Speaker 10: of that.
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: So I mean you've opened this door.
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: Now yeah so I want to see what happens go
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: back to the old way yeah.
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: That's good yeah then uh was it 16 millimeter that
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: you shot on what was the reasoning for that because
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: I'm assuming digital would be a lot easier at this
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: point easier.
• 45:07
  Speaker 10: And cheaper considering that you know it was a low
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: budget film well from the very beginning again I had
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: like strong uh strong visions on how I wanted to
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: shoot this film. And one of them was like, I
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: wanted this film to look like the films shot in
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: New York City in the 70s.
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: I love that look, the colors, the grain.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: I still think the most impressive era, like it's stuff
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: that gets done in the 70s, never before and even since.
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: It's just a very weird little snapshot in time there.
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, here in the United States it was a huge
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: revolution and you could feel the energies, not only what
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: the stories were about, but also there was a movement
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: and the way Cassavetes shot his films was also a
• 45:52
  Speaker 10: huge inspiration. you know, philosophically and also just technically. I mean,
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: he would just say, like, you hold the camera right
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: now and we shoot this in this room and we're
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: going to embrace improvisation and we're just going to see
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: where we go.
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: And there were 16mm cameras. And there were.
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: Mistakes being done. And I loved that. And actually, that's
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: what I wanted to embrace. So for me, the conversations
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: with the cinematographer, Noah Greenberg, was all about, please... please
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: embrace mistakes I don't want you to know what you're
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: going to do exactly I want you to follow and
• 46:27
  Speaker 10: discover the action in a way because the camera is
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: really one of the characters in the story is like
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: shot in a voyeuristic type of way and all handheld
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: so yeah that was that was kind of like a
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: dream and a vision and a struggle at the same
• 46:43
  Speaker 10: time all together definitely.
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: Well then as you got into it, were you going
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: for just completely on location or did you guys have
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: to kind of come up with makeshift sets or how
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: did you plan like where you were going to shoot?
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: So while writing the script, I knew the places that
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: I wanted because those kind of was my inspiration.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: Now this corner in Manhattan is just great for this
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: and this or the one for this. Um, and we actually,
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: for the first half of the film, We just went
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: on and shot in a guerrilla style.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Again, much like the 70s. We did a lot of that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, because I thought that in order to capture the
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: real energy and truthfulness of the city, you have to
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: do it that way.
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: So pretty much that was it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: And then, like, I don't know. I used a lot
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: of non-actors in the film, like real people. Also, again,
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: to bring that kind of, like, energy and truthfulness to
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: the story.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: Authenticity, yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: And so a lot of the locations that were on
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: the street was just out of begging for so long.
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: I would go on and, can I please shoot here? No,
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: I told you no already. I don't want my store
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: or my restaurant to be in a movie. I know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: but this is, it was like, I mean, you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: it was not like, I have $ 10, 000 to use your,
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: you know, your establishment.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: For a few hours. I'll buy lunch today.
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: Can I then shoot?
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it was actually pretty much like that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: Well, then as far as like as many challenges you
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: had shooting it, that's like kind of the first, as
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: you were saying, the ongoing battle. So once you got done,
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: were you prepared for, I mean, at that point you
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: have to do the post-production stuff and then finding distribution,
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: hitting film festivals. So how has all that been since
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: you actually finished the shoot?
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: Well, it's been a very long journey because, you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: I shot the film.
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: I went into the editing room.
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: I realized that there were things that I wanted to
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: add or even some of them like reshoot these parts. And,
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: you know, at that time when I found this out
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: in the editing room, I also found out that I
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: was pregnant and I'm deleting the story and the story
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: happens within one day.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: Kind of hard to shoot around that the further and
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: further you.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: Get into this.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: So it was like, whoa, I got to hurry up
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: if I don't want, I mean, if we want to
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: make this, you know, additional shots to the film. So
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: then I had to raise money again. And then I
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: went on and shot when I was almost four months pregnant.
• 49:17
  Speaker 10: And then I went back to the editing room and
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: I was like, okay, great. I got it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: And then I was like, but I would like to
• 49:22
  Speaker 11: add this other thing.
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: And, you know, because it's like, it's kind of like independent,
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: low budget filmmaking.
• 49:29
  Speaker 11: You kind of like have that flexibility.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: You don't have the money, but you do have that
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: kind of like you own the project.
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: It's all based on your time and your investment.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: So just after giving birth, I actually went on the
• 49:43
  Speaker 10: street and shot something else that is actually the intro
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: of the film. And then I just finished with that
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: and I went into the editing. But I mean, you know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: if you think about it, nine months of pregnancy plus
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: just giving birth.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: In film time, that's not really, yeah, that's how long
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: they always take.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: So yeah, and then the film was finished and then
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: I had to raise money again for the official post-production
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  Speaker 10: of sound, you know, sound design and color correction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: So that was another challenge to face. I mean, it's
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: really been challenge after challenge. And it's been a marathon altogether,
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: just knowing that no matter what, I wanted to finish
• 50:20
  Speaker 10: this project. And I wanted to do it the way
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: I dreamt about it and not just give up just
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: because things didn't go the way I wanted. But I
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: just was pretty stubborn about, like, this has to be
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: the way I want it to be, no matter how
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: it costs.
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: And how long it takes.
• 50:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and how long it takes.
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: And then you also, when you approach and you start
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: thinking about, well, now the film is done and I
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: feel proud of it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: Let's see if somebody likes it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 10: And then the approach was like, well, let's just think
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: about what the film festivals that could actually make a
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: significant difference and who actually require world premieres. So there
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: was a lot of waiting time to just wait for
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: the right film festival to, you know, okay, now I
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: have to submit to this one and pray and see.
• 51:08
  Speaker 10: If not, it's going to be a waiting time again.
• 51:12
  Speaker 10: And so, yeah, South by was the call that I
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: got just when I, you know, just one of the
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: first applications that I had.
• 51:22
  Speaker 11: So I'm very grateful.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: Kicked everything off.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: That's good.
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: Well, then, again, I was kind of looking at the,
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: the overall sort of theme of what's going on in
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: the movie, but it also feels like it's kind of
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: an artistic thing, too. So then I was going to ask,
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: either within the film and just kind of in life
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: in general, how hard is it, do you feel, to balance, again,
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: it's like as a working actor, trying to move into directing,
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: like what you want to do artistically and having some
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: sort of artistic integrity, but at the same time, you
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: kind of just have to make a living in So
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: like how hard is that to balance when you do
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: have these ideals of what you want to do, but you,
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: especially now you have a child to feed. So it's a, yeah,
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: I mean that how, how much of a challenge is
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: that is just like kind of balancing what you want
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: to do artistically versus the day to day trying to
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: just pay the bills.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, you know, I think that, uh,
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: well in New York and everywhere else, I think that
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: if you are an artist, you also have to look
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: for some sort of like income that, especially if you
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: want to create your own art, meaning like, I don't
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: want to, I, you know, I didn't get paid for
• 52:33
  Speaker 10: making my film. Obviously I invest my own savings into it.
• 52:36
  Speaker 10: So it's really, you're putting out everything there.
• 52:39
  Speaker 11: Hoping for the best.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: And in a way, you know, I hope I don't
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: have to continue doing that, but I do want to
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: keep myself true to my vision. And so, yeah, I
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: have other, you know, side kind of business that, you know,
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: that I run privately and that helps to pay the daycare.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: That's what it takes at this point.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: Well, then I guess what's the best way for people
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: to find out more about this, or is there a
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: way that you, I mean, do we know if it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: going to get distribution that's easily accessible to people, or
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: should they look for it at Film Fest?
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: What's the best way for people to find out more
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: about this?
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: So I was lucky enough that I got distribution in
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: North America and Latin America from Samuel Goldwyn Films and Orion.
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: So big company, MGM in Latin America. So it's going
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: to be in the movie theaters in November 2nd. It's
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: a limited release, 10 cities. But at the same time
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: or right after, it will be on Amazon.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: All right. That sounds good.
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: So we will get it out there and tell people
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: to look for it.
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: Cool.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 53:58
  Speaker 13: So from the beginning of conceiving this project and writing
• 54:02
  Speaker 13: this story, so the story came clear from the beginning
• 54:07
  Speaker 13: and all that, and I knew that because it was
• 54:09
  Speaker 13: going to be my first film, I'd never directed a
• 54:11
  Speaker 13: short film before either, it was going.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: To be all on my own.
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: So I did knock on doors on some producers, but
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: of course, it's like, who are you, nobody, blah, blah, blah.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: So.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Then I was.
• 54:22
  Speaker 13: Like, you know what, I'm just gonna try to find
• 54:24
  Speaker 13: these people, and I would just tell absolutely every single.
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: Person, I'm doing a movie, and then I'm looking for money.
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: And anyone who said like, really, how much? I would say,
• 54:37
  Speaker 11: I take anything. And you know, there was.
• 54:41
  Speaker 10: People that came in, show interest, at the end they
• 54:44
  Speaker 10: didn't come through, but eventually, certain people came through.
• 54:47
  Speaker 13: And I raised all the money knocking on doors for,
• 54:51
  Speaker 13: for quite long, you know, long periods of time. And
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: I think that, I think they saw that I was
• 54:56
  Speaker 13: very persistent, that I was going to make a film
• 54:59
  Speaker 13: no matter what.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: And then eventually, none.
• 55:01
  Speaker 14: Of the investors in the film ever invested in film before.
• 55:05
  Speaker 14: They were just people from other disciplines that they were like, well,
• 55:11
  Speaker 14: maybe instead of putting this savings here, I'll just put
• 55:14
  Speaker 14: into this movie and see what happens.
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: Who do you want to see this film? Or who
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: did you make it for?
• 55:25
  Speaker 14: I think I made it for the kind of audience
• 55:29
  Speaker 14: who are looking for something that will surprise them in
• 55:35
  Speaker 14: one way or another, either for the way it was
• 55:38
  Speaker 14: shot or for the story itself, and who just get
• 55:44
  Speaker 14: the multiple.
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: Layers of the story.
• 55:48
  Speaker 14: So maybe for a thoughtful audience, an open-minded audience somehow.
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: I know this film is not for every audience.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to thank you for sharing this film
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: I'm in a flower state I'm proud In a.
• 56:11
  Speaker 9: Flower state Just.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: A lovely flower state.
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: I'm in a flower state You can't bring me And
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: once again, a big thank you to Louisville Film Society
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: for letting us come out and be part of the event.
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: It was a great show tonight, and it's been a
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: great lineup this year. So to find out what they've
• 56:34
  Speaker 8: got in the works, go to louisvillefilmsociety.org.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: I think we're going to round things out. Jacqueline, do
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: you have anything else to pass along to people?
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: No.
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: Any other words of wisdom about your film festival watching
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: or theater-going experiences?
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: Popcorn. It's a good thing.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish that movie theaters would have chicken and waffles.
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: I wish that they'd have coffee.
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: I drink way too much coffee, more than most humans
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: need to. But it became a thing. And like for
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: a while it was like, hey, we're cool now.
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: We sell coffee.
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: And then like they all just want to sell booze now.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: So it's like we have beer, we have wine.
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: We got rid of coffee.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Something to make you sleepier instead of more awake for
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: the movie.
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: But I want to be awake for the movie. I
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: want to watch the movie. Here's a hot dog. Here's
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: a hot dog that's been here since 1973. We remodeled
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: around it four times.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. Baxter's hot dogs are legit. They
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: are so good.
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: Too legit.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Too quit. Quit eating this hot dog.
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: Please quit eating this hot dog.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: It's rubber. People get a lot of nachos these days, too.
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: And I'm just like, that seems like the messiest food anyway,
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: let alone to.
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: Eat in the dark.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I have been eating exclusively nachos at movie theaters for years.
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: You're one of those people.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: And I'm embarrassed because I'm always afraid that other people
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: can hear me eating those chips.
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: Oh, I can. Sometimes I'm not even with you. Just like,
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: that jerk up there, shut up.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, look, it's Jaguar. I can't do popcorn anymore.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: That's a classic, man. You can't take popcorn away.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, I like... Cry for my cold, dead hands. Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe for, like, nacho cheese popcorn.
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: No, that could be arranged. They've got both up there.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: I think you just need to slip on the tin. Look,
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: you make this happen for me, all right?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: They're pretty obliging.
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, usually it's, like, kids that could not care less
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: about their job.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I always ask for extra cheese and they
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: never charge me for it.
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: They barely even look at you. They're just like, whatever.
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: What will make you go away faster? Good enough.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: You need to edit that out. What if the manager
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: of Baxter is listening to this and then he hears
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: that they're giving me free cheese? He's going to fire them.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: They're going to get him in trouble.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: What do you care? They don't care about you.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Well, I like the people that give me free cheese.
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: Well, I think you just need to get on there.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Don't fuck up my free cheese connect.
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: Shove your head underneath the cheese dispenser. This is what
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: will happen day one. Here's your vest and.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: oh get your head out from under the cheat damn
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: it on that note I say we round this one
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: out we will be back in the near future with
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: more movie adventures otherwise that about does it we will
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: return next time same geek feed thanks for listening.
• 59:27
  Speaker 12: To know what it's like To love somebody the way
• 59:32
  Speaker 12: I love you.
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: To know what it's.
• 59:36
  Speaker 12: Like To love somebody the way I love you To
• 59:43
  Speaker 12: know how it feels To kill yourself with bad habits.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: To know what you want And know you'll.
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: Never truly have it New York City please go easy
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: on me tonight New.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 15: York City please go easy.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: On this heart of mine Cause I'm losing my lover
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: to the arms.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 16: Of another New York City please go easy on me.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: Tonight New.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 15: York City, please go easy on.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: Me When I went away Saw your face in.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 11: My rear view.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 15: I know that look on your face That I had lost.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 16: You New York City Please go easy on me tonight
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 16: New York City Please go easy on this heart of.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: Mine I'm losing.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 15: My lover to the arms of another. New York City,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 15: please go easy on me.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: I promised.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 12: I never knew I could be this selfish.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: Now it's downtown.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: It's a new town.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 12: But I keep thinking I see a face in the crowd.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: But you're not here.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: And you won't be.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: Cause you love me enough to make the world go round.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 15: New York City, please go easy on.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 12: This heart of mine.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: Cause I'm losing my.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Lover to the arms of another.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 15: New York City, please go easy on me tonight.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 11: Well, my accent doesn't make sense, right? It's just Meltdown.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: It works.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: You're directing already, though.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Look at you.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: Because I'm worth it.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: You always want the best take.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: I'm talking about the L'Oreal commercial at the end.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: Like the girl shaking her hair.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 11: Because I'm worth it.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: You want the best final product.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: I know how it is. This episode is a production
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by The Oddity Studios,
• 1:03:41
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