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Ep. 962: Rut Fresh Radio - Cold Front Magic! How Hunters Cashed In and How You Can Too · Wired To Hunt Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: What is going on.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jakehoefer and welcome back to another week of Roughfresh.
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: As we all could guess with this most recent cold
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  Speaker 2: front in October, we have three different big Buck stories
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  Speaker 2: here on how they got it done and how they
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: were able to capitalize on this most recent cold front.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: We have folks from Missouri, Kentucky, Iowa, and a update
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: in Illinois. This is some good intel for the next
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: cold front on how they were able to make a
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: process that came together. Looks like temperatures are going to
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit more stagnant here for quite some time,
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  Speaker 2: or at least a period of time, so time.
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  Speaker 1: To get prepared.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to kick this off with Hunter Hogan with
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  Speaker 2: a Missouri public lan buck that attacked here recently. And
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  Speaker 1: To kick things off here, Hunter Hogan in Missouri, here
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  Speaker 1: we go, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Next up on the line, we have Hunter Hogan who
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  Speaker 2: connected with the Missouri Public land Buck. I told you
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  Speaker 2: I was going to put you on the spot, so
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  Speaker 2: here it is how many public land acres are in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Missouri.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, good lord, this is just going to be a guess,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna guess four hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Your way off. You're way off.
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  Speaker 2: Three point five million public land acres in the state
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  Speaker 2: of Missouri, which has got to be one of the
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  Speaker 2: most in the Midwest. And so in twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: there was two hundred and seventy five deer shot, but
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  Speaker 2: only fifty six thousand were shot with the bow. You
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  Speaker 2: were for the twenty twenty five stats. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: be a public land buck with archery equipment. So congratulations
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  Speaker 2: on your recent success.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So let's let's kind of dive right into it. How
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  Speaker 2: does some of this come together? I saw on your
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  Speaker 2: most one of your most recent posts. You know you'd
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  Speaker 2: hunted a lot of days here. I know you already
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  Speaker 2: had success in another state earlier in the season, but
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  Speaker 2: your home state of Missouri. What was your game plan
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  Speaker 2: to try to connect with the buck? You know, earlier
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  Speaker 2: in the year, when most people were banking on November,
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  Speaker 2: you'd already made a plan come together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, early season seems to be kind of my thing
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  Speaker 3: so far in the last four or five years since
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  Speaker 3: I started like filming and you know, hunting more than usual.
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  Speaker 3: So like, I really key in on early season, mainly
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  Speaker 3: because I'm hunting public land in all the states. All
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  Speaker 3: all of my kills have been public land so far,
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  Speaker 3: so it's just like, yes, November is a magical time,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot of times there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: on public land at that time and the.
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  Speaker 5: Deer get pushed off the properties.
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  Speaker 3: So even though it's way more challenging and difficult to
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  Speaker 3: hunt early season, my like percentage chance of getting on
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  Speaker 3: a big mature buck on public land is way higher
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  Speaker 3: during that time. So yeah, I worked really hard over
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  Speaker 3: the summer just scouting a lot of different properties a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different parts of the state this year and
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  Speaker 3: just tried to make a hit list of bucks to
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  Speaker 3: where I had multiple mature, big bucks that I was
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  Speaker 3: willing to go after found. And so that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: what I keyedd on. And it was a tough start
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  Speaker 3: to the season because it was like a new moon
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  Speaker 3: right at the beginning of season. I think we had
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  Speaker 3: like one or two days of underfoot red moon and
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  Speaker 3: then it went straight into a new moon, and that
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  Speaker 3: just made it a tough start. I feel like it
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  Speaker 3: took that October roll and just moved it forward.
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  Speaker 5: So we we went a long.
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  Speaker 3: Time before, or I went a long time before seeing
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  Speaker 3: like a mature buck. And I had two or three
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  Speaker 3: buddies that we have like a group chat and stay
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  Speaker 3: really connected with each other, and we all hunt and
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  Speaker 3: hunt a lot and hunt really hard, and nobody was
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  Speaker 3: seeing mature bucks.
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  Speaker 5: So it was it was pretty tough for the first
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  Speaker 5: two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: And I ended up hunting twenty days total, and I
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  Speaker 3: ended up connecting with with a good mature buck. He
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  Speaker 3: wasn't even one that was necessarily on the hit list
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  Speaker 3: or one of the giants that I had found, but
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  Speaker 3: hunt for twenty days and he kind of you kind
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  Speaker 3: of you get you want to fill the tag, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So I had a friend come up for the day
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  Speaker 3: and and he was his name's Dean, and he had
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  Speaker 3: already tagged out, so he he came up and filmed
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  Speaker 3: for me for a day and a half and he
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  Speaker 3: was in the tree with me, and we set our
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  Speaker 3: stand sixty five yards from he was betted, and that
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  Speaker 3: buck stand up and I was like, yeah, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: time to fill this tag.
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  Speaker 5: So it was pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: So when you set up, did you know he was
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  Speaker 2: bet at sixty five yards awake or did you set
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  Speaker 2: up and you found him once you got set up.
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  Speaker 5: I knew.
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  Speaker 3: I was pretty confident that a mature buck was using
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  Speaker 3: that betting area, and I didn't know how far away
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  Speaker 3: he might be because I've had deer I've got in
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  Speaker 3: that area before, and I've had deer like twenty yards
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  Speaker 3: under marine, and I've had deer like one hundred yards
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  Speaker 3: from me. So that specific spot was really good for
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  Speaker 3: like the first week of October, because as these bucks
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  Speaker 3: started to like you know, they get hard worn, they
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  Speaker 3: start like tinkering with each other. I videoed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of bucks fighting. I think I saw probably thirty different
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  Speaker 3: bucks throughout the twenty days of hunting, and they started like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, playing around, but still buddy buddy. Well once that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, first week of October hits the mature bucks, they're.
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  Speaker 5: Not so buddy buddy anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And so I watched a couple five year olds a
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  Speaker 3: few days before, like they're still around the little bucks,
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  Speaker 3: but they're like, hey, get out of my way, like hey,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to play anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And So that betting area that I went into, I
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  Speaker 3: knew that there's a lot of mature bucks like northeast,
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  Speaker 3: south and west of there, and I hadn't seen any
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  Speaker 3: like in that betting area specifically over the summer. But
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  Speaker 3: as those bachelor groups were splitting up and the big
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  Speaker 3: bucks were getting territorial and starting to make some big
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  Speaker 3: scrapes and stuff, I knew that that was a betting
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  Speaker 3: area that one of the mature bucks was going to
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  Speaker 3: take over and become dominant on.
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  Speaker 5: So that was kind of my game plan going into
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  Speaker 5: that spot.
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  Speaker 1: And I read that you were like thirty feet high.
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  Speaker 2: That is much higher than what most people set their
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  Speaker 2: stands at or you know, I feel like honey lower
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  Speaker 2: has become more popular. A lot of people still are
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  Speaker 2: that eighteen to twenty two feet, because that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what we've all been conditioned and trained to think the
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  Speaker 2: appropriate hike to be thirty feet. You might need to
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  Speaker 2: get air traffic control. It's to be that high out there, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's way up there. Why why do you set up
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  Speaker 2: that high?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 5: I I'll try not to go too deep.
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  Speaker 3: On this, but like, I think that the only way
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  Speaker 3: that a buck is going to reach maturity on public
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  Speaker 3: land is if he goes against the grain or against
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  Speaker 3: the trends.
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  Speaker 4: So like.
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  Speaker 3: I have done it before, but I haven't found much
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  Speaker 3: success of going in really deep and hanging a low
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  Speaker 3: set in a thick area of trees, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: it's like both the deer I've killed this year, one
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  Speaker 3: was at you know, thirty one foot high, and the
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  Speaker 3: other one was right at forty foot high, And the
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  Speaker 3: reason for that was I needed to be that high
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  Speaker 3: to shoot down into the bending area. And we just
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  Speaker 3: I just posted a YouTube video and you can see,
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  Speaker 3: like the deer's at twenty five yards and you can
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  Speaker 3: you have to like pick out spots to even see
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  Speaker 3: his body through the weeds. And that was from forty
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  Speaker 3: foot high, you know, So like I need to be
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  Speaker 3: that high in order to one see into it and
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  Speaker 3: to make an ethical shot into it. And then both
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  Speaker 3: of those were less than one hundred and fifty yards
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  Speaker 3: from a parking lot, like to my tree to my
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  Speaker 3: truck was like less than one hundred and fifty yards.
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  Speaker 3: So I just think that like a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: we put these white tail in a box and we
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  Speaker 3: say they're supposed to do this, but they're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: do that, and I think the only way that they
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  Speaker 3: can avoid pressure and get smart on public land is
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  Speaker 3: they either die doing what they're supposed to do, or
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  Speaker 3: they do what they're not supposed to do and they
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  Speaker 3: get around the people. So I see that a lot
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  Speaker 3: with with multiple different states and public lands and high
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  Speaker 3: pressure situations on doing something a little bit different. So
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  Speaker 3: you just got to adapt to what they're doing. And
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  Speaker 3: that's why I kind of rely on my summer scouting
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  Speaker 3: to tell me what that buck likes to do, because
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  Speaker 3: they're way more visible in the summer and they're way
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  Speaker 3: more easy to find before stuff grows up seven eight,
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  Speaker 3: twelve foot tall, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's.
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  Speaker 3: Why I go scout over the summer so much and
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  Speaker 3: learn that buck and figure out how he's getting hold
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  Speaker 3: on the public land.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think that obviously it's it's
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  Speaker 2: working for you, and so I think for anyone that's listening,
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  Speaker 2: they have to maybe think outside of the box here
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  Speaker 2: looking deeper into the season, and how much does that
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  Speaker 2: strategy change when we get a hard frost. You know,
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  Speaker 2: those really tall seven or eight foot tall weeds start
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  Speaker 2: to lay over a little bit, you know, they go
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  Speaker 2: from seven or eight foot tall to maybe five foot tall,
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  Speaker 2: you know, depending on where you're out of the country
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  Speaker 2: and everything else. But does that strategy and betting area,
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  Speaker 2: how much does that potentially change just for someone that
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  Speaker 2: listens to this now and wants to try to implement,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a similar game plan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my strategy changes a lot when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: like later in the season and hard frosts. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like I feel like ninety percent
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  Speaker 3: of my strategy revolves around people and pressure more than
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: it does just like your activity and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, last week of.
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  Speaker 3: October, first week in November, that's what everybody's hunting, Like,
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  Speaker 3: everybody's hunting the Midwest at that time. So like in
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  Speaker 3: years past, I would actually take a break from whitetail
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: and go mulder hunting, and there's very few people meal
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  Speaker 3: deer hunting at that time. Most people go mulder hunting
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  Speaker 3: in like September or something, you know. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's I think there's ways around it. I
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  Speaker 3: think that once that hard frost hits during these next
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: few weeks, grapes are going to be really key. And
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  Speaker 3: I know that's kind of like a hill country deal,
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: but I hunt a lot of flat country, and even
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: in flat country, like straps are super key, like they
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  Speaker 3: are somewhere, and they might be they might not be
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  Speaker 3: in like the most obvious places, or they might be
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  Speaker 3: in some weird places. But like, all the bucks are
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  Speaker 3: making scrapes, all the bucks are using lifting branches, and
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  Speaker 3: just keying in on those is going to be key
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  Speaker 3: to like finding a mature buck. And you might not
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  Speaker 3: see thirty deer like I did in the last twenty days.
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  Speaker 2: Looking into the future here, you know this this going
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  Speaker 2: live October fifteenth, So someone's listening on October fifteenth or sixteenth,
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  Speaker 2: or you know, seventeenth. Even the temperatures look to be
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  Speaker 2: pretty stagnant. We's here in Illinois, not a ton you know,
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  Speaker 2: not that mid October cold front that we all hope for.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that, is there anything going on with the moon.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like you're very in tune with the moon.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anything from the October fifteenth to the twenty
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  Speaker 2: second that has you excited minus the weather not cooperating
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh man, this we're in this phase
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  Speaker 2: of the moon.
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  Speaker 1: Or I'm not a moon guy, so I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Just curious what your perspective is over the next seven
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  Speaker 2: days in regard to the moon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd have to check my calendar. I use the
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  Speaker 3: app Moon Guide by Adam Hayes. I'm not affiliated with them.
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  Speaker 3: It's just what I use, what I love, and what
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  Speaker 3: I found the most success with. The number one best
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  Speaker 3: moon phase is an overhead red moon, which in context
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  Speaker 3: means that the moon position is straight overhead within two
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  Speaker 3: hours of the evening, like of dark in the evening,
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  Speaker 3: So I think in the early I think, like I
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  Speaker 3: want to say, the twenty second or third or something
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  Speaker 3: like that is the start of an overhead red moon.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be your best like mature buck movement
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  Speaker 3: time in daylight. So that's that's my number one favorite
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  Speaker 3: moon phase. My second favorite is a full moon on
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  Speaker 3: the horizon, so like there's a three day perier and
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  Speaker 3: I've killed on this one the most actually, and I
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  Speaker 3: just killed both of my bucks this year on this
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  Speaker 3: moon phase is that full moon on the horizon when
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  Speaker 3: it like the first three days of a full moon,
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  Speaker 3: it'll break over the horizon before dark. And for some reason,
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  Speaker 3: like when that full moon breaks over the horizon, the
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  Speaker 3: deer get on their feet, and then after those three days,
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  Speaker 3: it keeps rising later and later and later, and the
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  Speaker 3: deer movement seems to be later and after dark. But
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  Speaker 3: those first three days, I don't know what it does.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why it does it. I just know
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  Speaker 3: I've seen it in multiple different states and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different years now for four or five years, and
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  Speaker 3: that full moon will get them on their feet. And
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of controversy over the moon, but I've
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  Speaker 3: sat over bedding areas a lot, and it's like I
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  Speaker 3: literally watch them, you know, go from laying down to
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  Speaker 3: standing up on their feet, and they might mosy around
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  Speaker 3: in the betting area, which if they're betting them like
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: a seedar thicket, you might not see this, so it
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  Speaker 3: might not the moon might not have as big an
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  Speaker 3: effect for you. But like I'm hunting over their beds
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  Speaker 3: like where they're betting, and when I see them stand
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  Speaker 3: up and get on their feet on certain moons and
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  Speaker 3: not get up at all on other moons, I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent. And I think if you're sitting
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  Speaker 3: on a field edge or a transition zone, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be like the whole moon stuff is bs but if
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  Speaker 3: you're sitting over their bed and watching them stand up,
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  Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent, Like has a huge effect on things.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that overhead red moon in in like
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: the October twenties. It's somewhere in there. You'd have to
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: look it up on that app but I think that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be your prime time for movement in October.
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  Speaker 4: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: So looking here over the next seven days on a
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  Speaker 2: scale one to ten, where do you put it? Knowing
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  Speaker 2: that that phase of the moon should fall within this
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  Speaker 2: time period, I'll skip ten being the best best week
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  Speaker 2: of the year, one being one of the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks of the year.
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  Speaker 5: October can be tough, man.
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  Speaker 3: I think if we had an overhead red moon and
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: a cold front, or even like a little bit of
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: a temperature drop, I think that would help a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Or if you compare it with like a barometric pressure
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  Speaker 3: over thirty, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Going to be fire.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have to have a cold front to rank it
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  Speaker 3: number one best week of the year, but it might
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  Speaker 3: be I don't know. The end of October can be
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  Speaker 3: pretty magical, so it might be second best right in
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  Speaker 3: there somewhere, it's going to be in the top three
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, congratulations once again, Hunter, and good luck the rest
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: of the season. If people want to catch one of
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: your hunts here one of your recent huts, and I'm
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: sure this one will be coming up here too pretty soon.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Where do they go watch these?
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  Speaker 3: My YouTube is Hunter Hogan Productions, and then I post
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: a lot on my Instagram on stories and just posts
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: and reels and stuff like that to kind.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Of keep up through the season.
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  Speaker 3: Not not as like highly produced and it's bow life
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  Speaker 3: Hogan right on.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations once again, and thanks for hopping on.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Thanks man.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Next up on the line, we have Rob sand who
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: recently tagged a ginormous deer in the state of Iowa
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  Speaker 2: on a des Moines.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: What would be the exact phrase of that hunt opportunity.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: I'd call it an urban hunt. They've got a they've
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: got an urban hunting program to reduce population. So if
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: you get three antlerless deer in the first year, you
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: can you can get into the lottery to get an
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: incentive buck tag for the following year.
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  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: So I've been kicking these off with the tribute question
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: in regard to the state for the guest So your
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: question this this week, right now, what county in year
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: for bonus points was the non typical buck shot in
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the state of Iowa. So the county in the year,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: and then I'll tell you the score.
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  Speaker 6: And so so I'm I'm from Decora, Northeast Iowa, and
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: we have some huge bucks and winn Is chic and
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  Speaker 6: al McKee and Clayton. But but I'm gonna bet southern
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: central Iowa.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Appanows.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: You're close, You're close. It was in Monroe County in
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Yeah, and it was shot in
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three and it scored three hundred and
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: seven and five eights inches. That's bonkers, well known as
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the Albia buck. So okay, that's the that's the trivia
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: question for you. So let's let's dive into your most
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: recent hunt.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: We had a really good cold front. When did you
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: find of this, dear this year is a really really
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: big deer and you have it here with us if
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you want to show us real quick and we'll dive
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: into the story.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Sure, sure, sure, yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: So I have been in the Urban bow Hunting program
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: for about thirteen years. Here's here's the rack we're talking about.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: He just got scored yesterday green score because this was
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: a week ago today. But two O nine gross, two
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: o two net. I mean, just ridiculous. I'm not even
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: holding it out in front of me. Man, So this
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: dear a buddy sent a picture of it to me. Uh,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: I shouldn't and and uh, I just kinda I've never
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: seen anything that big, whether statewide or in town in
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: the city here. Then you know, my my I grew up,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: my dad taught me to bowhunt, So I've been behunting
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: most of my life, just absolutely bonkers. And so I
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: just started. I went from where he lived, and I
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: started knocking on doors and made phone calls, and I
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: cold calling people I never met before, knocking on doors
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: for people I never met before, just saying, hey, you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: there's a deer population problem in Des Moines here. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: so they have this program and I'm trying to have
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: been in it for a long time, and it's very safe.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: You have to shoot from an elevation, you have to
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: pass a marksmanship test every year, just trying to make
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: people comfortable to.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Understand that it's, you know, nothing scary. And I had some.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Success and a lot of people who said no, Probably
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: a dozen people roughly that said no, probably eight people
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: that said yes. It was kind of interesting because you'd
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: have sometimes both both a husband and wife would come
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: to the door, and one would be okay with it
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: and one wouldn't. But sometimes it was the husband that
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: was okay with it, and other times it was a
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: wife that was okay with it and the husband wasn't.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: So just a real mix.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: But I just I went from where he lived, where
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: he took that one picture that he sent me an
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: in velvet, absolutely bonkers.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: And I just I got on on X.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: I looked at topography maps, I looked at natural funnels.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: I would take bike rides to this neighborhood and pay
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: attention to which yards were fenced in, you know, that
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: kind of thing to really try to figure out, like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: you know, where are.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: They going to be moving?
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: And over the course of August and September, like slowly
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: sort of you know, zero da in on what I
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: thought would be his home turf. And by the time
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: the season opened for the urban season, it's a little
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: earlier than the statewide September twentieth, I had a few
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: spots where I had pictures of him in the daytime
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: a couple places, multiple times, and so I was like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: all right, I feel pretty good about this. I got
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: a couple stands set up, and I actually had two
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: encounters with him before I tagged him really once once
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: it was like the second day of the season, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: it's like, I'm in my stand, it's two minutes into
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: hunting light and it's just not bright enough. I mean,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: maybe it would have been if I'm forty three. Maybe
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: if I was twenty three, I would have been like,
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: there he is, boom. But it didn't work that way,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: you know, I was. I was not certain it was him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: There's actually another one around that doesn't have the two
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: it doesn't have the two drops over here.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: It's just got one. And so I wasn't sure which
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: one it was.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: The other guy's substantially smaller, and so I didn't I
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: didn't want to spend my I didn't want to punch
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: my ticket if it was the wrong buck.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so I was I was careful.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: I was like, all right, you know, I know he's around.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to do this unless I'm sure it's him.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: And I wasn't sure, so I didn't. I didn't fling
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: an arrow at him. And then another time I was
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: climbing into my stand and turned around and there he was,
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: so I froze. There was no fixing anything or even
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: getting a chance to get a shot there, and he
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: kind of wandered off. And then I probably had ten
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: days where I didn't see him or get a picture
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: of him during the day. And then yeah, this a
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: week ago, Monday, finally the heat finally broke. Yeah, it
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: was like less of a cold front and more of
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: like a comfortable front finally.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually more like towards seasonal averages, but it
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: felt like a cold front because of where it was prior.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: So where all three of these encounters were. They all
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: from the same tree, the same area or where you
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: bounce around.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: The same area.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: One was in the same property where I same private
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: property where I actually ended up shooting him, and the
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: other one was in.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: A different one.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: But it was the two spots where he was on
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: camera the most during the day, and one was better
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: for a south wind and one was better for a
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: north wind. And with all the heat, we've been having
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: a lot of south winds, or we had been, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: then finally when this front came in, I knew that
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: that first day of it was going to have to
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: be my day because the other two days there's I
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: was going to have to be out of town. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: I went out in the morning, didn't see a thing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: It was rainy, went out again for the evening hunt.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: I actually ended up getting down out of my stand
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: walking the very short, you know, thirty yards back to
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: my truck parked in the driveway of the people's who's property.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: I was hunting in and sitting in there for a
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: while because it was raining so heavy that I was like,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: there's no way he's going to be moving. It got
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: real heavy for a while, so I just sat in
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: there and warmed up and try to avoid getting totally
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: drenched yet. And then it lightened up again five thirty
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: five forty five, so I went back out, got back
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: up into my tree, and forty five minutes later I
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: see a buck behind a tree and pull out my bikox,
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: tell it's him, get my bow off a hangar, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: at that point is maybe forty yards away, and he
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: starts coming towards me.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: And I actually I had to move at one point,
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: and it had.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Been so wet that I slipped off of my climbing stick.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Jeez.
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: And I started saddle hunting probably three years ago.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: I should see two. Like I said, I've been hunting
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: for a long time. I actually the last time I
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: took a buck it was November of twenty twenty two,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: and I've passed on decent ones in twenty three and
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: twenty four because I decided to get serious about my
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: goal of shooting a booner. I've shot like, I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: eight pop and young bucks, but never anything over one seventy. Actually,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: i've shot four between like one fifty, so they're all
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: packed right in there. Yeah, And I was like, okay,
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: I gotta quit doing that. And so I slipped off
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: my climbing stick and my saddle catches me. It was
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: real tight, but I kind of swung around the tree.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Didn't make any noise or much the rain covered or
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: whatever noise there was, and I was able to get
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: back onto it steady myself. And then he stepped up
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: from behind that tree h twenty five yards and that
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: was it, quartering away, so just perfect.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Do you think that the slip was buck fever induced
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: in conjunction of.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I love the wetness.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: I will tell you this, I typically don't feel it
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: at all. The first that that two minutes into hunting
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: light time when I saw him, and the time that
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: I saw him getting out of my stand, heart's beating
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: out of my chest. I mean, I typically am just
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: was a cucumber. This guy I kind of freaked out.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: So it absolutely could have been. The other thing was
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: I had I kind of soaked through my regular warmer
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: weather hunting boots in the morning, and so it was
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: the first time this season wearing my like bigger, thicker
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: winter boots, and so maybe it was a combination of
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: wet buck fever and then a boot I hadn't been
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: hunting in.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: What what what do you think had that beer hanging
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: out there? Was there a you know, a bunch of
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: acorns dropping in that little area or what was he
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: was in there?
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, tons of olks in there, And then it was
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: just it was an area that had, for being in
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: the middle of town, a really big chunk of timber
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: that didn't really have a road running through it. That's
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's I know there was other folks
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: who had been hunting in the area, whether In fact,
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: I know there were two on private property because on
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: my list of people to call or a couple of homeowners,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: and I'd call him up and say, Hey, can I
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: hunt in your property? And they'd say yes, and I'd
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: say great, I'll come set up a stand and they'd
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: say you don't need to. There's already one there because
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: there's other people that hunt there. So I'd back off.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: That to me is like, you know, if somebody else
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: already called, like that's their spot, I'm not going to
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: make them trade off and on with me for who
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: wants to sit on a Saturday morning or something like that. Yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: but so people knew know he's around. I was just
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: in an area where a lot of oak trees, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: there's a ton of oaks in that neighborhood. I would
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: probably credit that for him how he got so big anyways,
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: And then it's just kind of like a little sanctuary
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: area that was probably from his perspective, big enough to
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: be a real tight home turf without having to travel
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: much or do much. But truth is, I mean, I
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: know he had a decent range because I had some
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: pictures of him spread out around a big area before
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: I finally narrowed in on a place where I knew
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: he was going.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: Regularly, and I can't tell you it was his home turf.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: I can just tell you that he was there often
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: enough that I felt pretty good and didn't think I
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: had any other options because the park. I know, there's
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: a big park nearby, and I didn't have access or
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: permission to be hunting there, and I think some other
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: guys were hunting there. And then there was a third
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: guy who said he had people on his property too.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: So.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: It was just a question who had him with a
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: good opportunity.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: First, when you had gone around and asked, you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: twenty some people for permission, did any of them say like, oh,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: do you know of that giant deer we've been seeing
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: in the backyard or was that a common occurrence?
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Yes, people knew this, dear A few of them.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: A few of them would share pictures and even if
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: they didn't give me permission to hunt it, they'd say, oh, yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: here he is.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: He's out there. You can't hunt here, but you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: good luck.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean another data point as you're going through
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and you know, you know of the payment to get
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: an opportunity.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Then there was.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Another time where I went up to this property that
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I really had to is sort of like, oh, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: think this is going to be great. And as I'm
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: going down the driveway, I look to my left and
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: into the timber and there's his little brother.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: There's the bachelor group.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: The one with the one the one drop time coming off,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: and then and then one younger one and they're bedded
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: down in there. And so I'm like, bingo score. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: the homeowner was out of town. I had to try
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: to come back a week later. I ended up getting
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: permission from her, but it wasn't I hunted at her
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: property and had a few pictures of him there, but.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: That wasn't the spot. But yeah, it was. I mean,
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: it was interesting.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: It's just a lot of it's it's and I should
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: say too for people who haven't done the urban hunt,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: deer are exactly the same urban as they are country.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: If they're accustomed to a person in a particular place.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: It doesn't bother them.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: And so you'll have deer that you know, they know
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: they're going to see you in your driveway walking to
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: and from your car.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: But if they if they figure.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Out that you're up in a tree, they're going to
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: freak out, just the same as they would out in
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: the woods. It's all about what's familiar and what they've
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: come to accept as being sort of like safe and reliable.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: And in the urban program, you have to hunt from
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: an elevated pitch and a tree because the city wants
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: if you're if you miss, they want your arrow going
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: into the ground.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: And so it's not that different.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: You still got to be you still got to play
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: the wind, you still got to be careful with your
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: scent because you're you're up there and hoping that they're
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: going to just not notice you. If they do notice you,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: you're busted, just the same as you would be anywhere else.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's I've never urban hunted,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: but there's always a lot of common threads on different
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: people's perspectives, and I think a lot of times people
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that hadn't actually hunted in an urban setting, but still
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a really exciting game of cat and mouse on very small,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: very very small parcels, which is a huge challenge.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And the best thing to do especially is with
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: this is was really for me trying to find if
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: you can two contiguous properties where you can get permission
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: from both because because of the regulations on you got
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: to be so far away from buildings and stuff like
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: that sometimes you'd have to One of the spots that
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I had was one where I felt really good about
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: it because I'd had them on camera. But it was
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: two folks next to each other, both of whom had
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: given me permission, And that just gives you a bigger range,
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: a bigger circle.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: So looking here in the next week, So let's say
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: October fifteenth to the twenty second, for anyone that's out
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: there hunting or planning to scout, is there any parting
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: words of advice now that you already.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Have one down, and.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: You know, what would you tell someone that's sitting with
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the tag in their pocket to focus on for the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: next week?
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I guess I. Here's here.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: This is what was really interesting about this to me.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I typically have not been big into scouting. I kind
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: of hit the rut and I sit a lot and
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: sort of see who shows up, and I might set
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: up a few cameras to sort of see who's out there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: You know, this is the first time I really went
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: early season, and normally I don't want to do early
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: season because I don't want the bugs, and I hate
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: the heat, and I just I got a couple of
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: thin pieces of insect treated camo and that was great.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: And you know what else is great about it. You
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: don't have a ton of leaves down but are spoiling
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: every single step with crunching as you walk around, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: you don't have to you don't have to bundle up.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: So I mean, I guess i'd say, if you're if
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: you haven't tried early season before, give it a shot,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: because this is the first time I did it, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: you can really have a chance to pattern a big
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: buck before they start going crazy with the rut. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: guess i'd say over the next week. I mean, it
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: looks to me like temperatures are going to be pretty consistent.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: I'd just say, you know, you can't shoot them from
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: the couch. I don't think there's any particular day that's
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: looking better than any other. But as long as you're
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: out there, you're going to have a chance.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Rob. Congratulations once again, you've
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: achieved your goal and then some and got into two
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: hundred inch club. So I mean, you went from straight
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: over one seventy to straight home from two hundred so congratulations.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it warred me out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, this, this cold I've got here is I
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: was exercising less and sleeping less for two weeks going
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: after this guy. But I would say I'll recover from
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: this and this will last for sure.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: We'll congratulations once again.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: We have Josh Prophet down in Kentucky. Good morning, Josh.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: How does it feel to you have a buck tag
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: field already?
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I never killed one this earlier. Honestly, I'm not sure
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: that I'll like it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the season feels early, but but you ended up
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: connecting with the buck Let's let's hear all about it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: What made it happen this early? And compared to years previously?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm I don't know the exact day. I'd have
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: to really sit down, but I'm like two decades twenty
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: years in on like public land hunting. And when I
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: opened the shop last year, I mean it just opened
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: doors for me. And between now and then, man, I've
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: landed somewhere around two thousand acres of private ground. One
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: of them is a is A is a good sized
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: farm for me. It's it's a thousand acres continuous at
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: least my first farm ever this year, and between all that,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I told myself, I just wasn't hun public this year
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: is gonna be private only?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So was that? Was that an awkward transition?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Like when like your DNA has been hunting public for
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: so long and then you know, you get the opportunity
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to hunt some some private and you know, do some
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: things that you can't do on public.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Quite ultimately, the.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: I put out some mineral that wasn't no big deal,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: but the weirdest thing for me, and I'm I'm not
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: saying I'm I did it, but I'm not really for it.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I did put out some corn just because it was
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: legal here after August first. It's it's so different, man.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: You know, I've drove my struck everywhere I could drive it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: You know, there were times in my life where I
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: was walking like a thousand miles from like year to year,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: and I don't even it's sad, I don't. I don't
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: know how far I'll be walking, but it won't be
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: near as much.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So you end up getting some private And then so
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about the plan, because I
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: feel like anytime someone typically connects this early in the season,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: they had put a good offseason plan together or at
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: least had recent intel to make a play.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of and I feel like.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: That's a disconnect with a lot of people this time
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: of year, where someone sees success from someone else where,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, you didn't see what they did in
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the summer to potentially have the success. You know, this
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: early in the season, So dial it back to the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: summer kind of when did you find this deer? And
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: then what was the strategy to for it all to
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: come excuse me, for all of it to come together.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: So it's a we'll go back about We'll go back
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: a year or at least until last last winner. So
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: this farm that I have, an outfitter has had this
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: farm leased for roughly twenty years. During the twenty years
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: they have switched hands and I'd say the last ten
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: or twelve years there they're primarily a wing shooting outfitter.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Pezant's quel Doners do from what I'm told, they do
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: deer hunt, but they live in Florida. They got a
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: ranch in Colorado. So I'm just trying to paint the
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: picture for you here that basically that whole roughly twenty
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: five hundred to three thousand acres there. In my eyes,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: it's almost like a deer sanctuary. There's people all over it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: They have eighteen hundreds a day, guides, a lot of shooting,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: just you know, just a good camaraderie sport. But I think,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: you know, over the years, the deer they just they
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: figured it out. You know, they don't really get messed with.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: They just got to deal with the people. And between
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: last August in last January in these fields, and I
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: got to have one of them. Least, I've seen four
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: bone and crockett deer. And yeah, just from the road
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: in like January, Man, there would be so many deer
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: out there, I would I'd lose camp like over one
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: hundred you know, probably ten bucks that I would shoot.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe not somebody else. But and I got the guy
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: in the chair in the barber chair, and he's an
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: older gentleman, lives in Kansas, and I just asked him
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: about and he told me that they had the property least,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: but he said the downfall is my my cousin farms it,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: and man, they just destroy the crops, you know. And
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: he's like, they're snot shooting, No, deer and they just
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: keep people off. And I was like, I'll shoot the deer.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: And a year or fast forward to this spring, he
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: come in town and was like, hey, you know it's yours.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you have it. He said, just under
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: one uh, you know, under one term, like you've got
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: to promise me number one you'll shoot some dose and
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: number two you'll give me some deer Meat's the old
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: school stuff you don't ever hear about.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I was all for it. Man. There's a I got
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: one other guy on there that's a client. He technically
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: lives on the property. He rantled on the property. And
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: that was another stipulation that the owner said, you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: you can do what you want with it, but it
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: would make me happy and everybody happy if if Michael
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: could get in on the leash just because he lives there.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: And I let him in and that secured the least
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: for five years for me. So and it was just
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: a no brainer.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's cool.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: You know, this sounded like a golden opportunity. And now
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: it's like completely switching gears to have a farm locked
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: up for that long. But you know, this cold, this
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: most recent cold fronts when you connected with him, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: did you use a stick bow?
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I killed him with a long bow.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're stick bow hunting with a long you know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: traditional archery. Cold front early October. What was your game
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: plan going into the hunt?
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: You know it was. It was really weird because I
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: couldn't get on the lease until October first, because their
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: contract with the outfitter didn't run out to the last
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: day of September. But I called this piece of property
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the homestead, like if you ever look at it, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: it's it's actually the house that my least partner lives in,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: and it's tuck back in off the road. And he
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: was like, man, you should just put some cameras in
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: my yard, he said, because I see these deer and
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: they found like one hundred and sixty five inch side
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: sheds in his yard last year. And so I did,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: and I've had my two biggest deer all season in
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: his yard. The lease is in corn and so October first,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: which was I think two wednesdays ago, I took off
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: and took a handful of cameras out. I already you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: had some pins dropped and I'm used to you know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: five ten thousand acres and this was two hundred and
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: fifty acres. Like I, I picked it. I picked the
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: areas I want. I picked over pretty good, and it
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: it didn't take long. I mean, the first night I
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: put my cameras out, I had the deer I would kill.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: And everybody knows my standards have never been too awful.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: High, not wrong with that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: So I had, you know, probably six deer that I
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: would shoot, and two of them are really good deer,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: one of them being fully mature, you know, five plus
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: probably one hundred and sixty inch deer. But farm lace horrible.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: You know, it's primarily an evening spot. I mainly I
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: got two hundred and fifty acres, but I only got
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: seventy acres of woods that type of scenario. But man,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I just I was getting pictures of bucks. It was
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: very it was just very obvious to me what they
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: were doing. I knew about where they were betting. You know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm real huge on pinpointing exact betting down. I
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: think it's a lot harder to do than what people say.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: But I know a general idea where they were betting,
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: and I definitely knew they were you know, they were
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: going to head down to that corn and then they
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: just shelled the corn about four days started shelling it
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: about four days before the code front. Mm hm yes.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: And I had a little field. It was previously planted
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: in a food plot and they just they bushedogged it
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: last year and' pray two or three acres and just
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: let you know, just littered with scrapes, tattooed with scrapes,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: you know, just all kinds of bucks on on it
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: and lots of white oaks. And I literally just put
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a camera on a scrape and I could tell, you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: just by looking at my phone, you know, the deer
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: were going to come down the ridge and walk down
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: the edge of the field and hit this drainage and
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: go out to the agfield. And then when I put
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: that camera there, it's just it lit up NonStop from
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: morning talk all night. And I just needed a code front, man,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: just needed a north.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Wind, north wind in a cold front. So you get
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the north wind in the cold front. Did you already
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: have that set already hung or was it you know
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you had to already pinned a tree? What was that
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: process like going into to make the move?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Man? I drove my truck back there, and you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: it's something that I've never really done, but it's common
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: sense that if you can drive somewhere, it's I would
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: rather drive past the deer than walk past the deer. Yeah,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I just drove back to the field man and kind
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: of walked it, and I picked out a couple of
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: different trees. You could you can only hunt it on
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: a north wind, just the way it laid. And I
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: picked out a perfect black walnut tree right on the
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: edge of the field man, and it was literally right
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: there where I knew that they would funnel down through
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: and the colde front end. I accessed it from about
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: nine hundred yards and come in the backside and did
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: a hanging hunt, and man, they just they piled in
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: there on me. I don't know if you've seen the story,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: but it was I did look crazy. I think I
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: seen six poping youngs from one thirty to probably one sixty.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I've seen the biggest year I had on camera, and everybody,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure everybody's like, man, I can't believe
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: you didn't wait wait for that. But when you got
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: a one hundred and thirty five hundred and forty inch
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: deer in front of you with it with a stick bow,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to you know, let him walk.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: So how far was the shot?
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: I ended up killing him at thirty? They come out
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: so early, man, that dear come out like an hour
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: and a half before dark. And you know, they slowly
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: started making their way and I'd say it was around
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: six o'clock. He made it almost right to the base
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: of the tree. He was in yards from me, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I had a dough. She wasn't blown at me, she
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: was blowing something a couple hundred yards down towards the field,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: you know, and just had all the deer on hyler.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: And all I needed him to do was turn broadside.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: And he he turned and kind of went to take
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: a couple of steps, not to leave, just to kind
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: of meal around. And he was so close to me
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: that he he could hear he heard me draw my
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: bow back mm hm, and so he like kind of,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of tucked his rear end and trotted
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: off twenty yards and stopped and looked, looked around and
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: start feeding.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You were what were they feeding?
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: It? Just grass, just like a grass field with clover
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: and weeds in it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, and they were there were so
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: just so people can get a picture in their mind,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: they came out of the betting I were assuming they
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: were betted in the tim based off kind of what okay,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: so better than the timber transitioned into you know, like
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: a general millionairea where there's some clover, some different weezer
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: munching on. And then your anticipation was that we're going
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to head to the big ag field after that or
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: is that not not quite accurate?
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: No, that's exactly accurate. And the way that the ridge
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: laid with the field on top and the drainage, I
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: typically always have good luck with deer kind of following
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: that drainage, you know, And I just just guess, you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I just figured that's the direction they would go other
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: than other ways around the ridge. It just worked perfect.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: That's the every deer that was in the field was
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: coming by me, like in the fifteen yards, and it's
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: it's a pretty it was a pretty good sized field,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: you know, two or three acres. But when that deer spooked,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: he didn't, I mean it didn't really spook him. I
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: guess it's artolding. And then eventually more and more deer
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: kept feeding past, and it's like he knew, you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: not to come right to the base of the tree,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: so he he kind of come by right. I guess
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: that's just right around thirty yards, not in any hurry,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: and I just smoked him, man, hitting back the lungs,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and he'd done some car wheels in the field and
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: died right from.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Man, that's cool, man, congratulations. I think real quick too.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You mentioned you could only hunt on a north wind.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Quickly paint that picture for people who might want to
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: understand what that looks like. So when they're trying to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: identify a similar spot, you know, for this next cold
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: front to where your scent.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Was blown, where he had low odds of getting busted.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: So my only access is through the ackfield. And you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: deer there opposite than us. There there are our afternoons
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: or there mornings, and our mornings are there afternoons. And
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: it was very obvious, you know, the deer are not
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: going to bed in the field. There may be a
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: couple of ditches that they could probably hide in, but
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: they were just going to be back up in the timber.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: And there it's big timber, probably three to four thousand
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: acres there, but I only got like a seventy acre
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: parcel of it, and there's a probably a twenty acre
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: lake on the northeast side. And so the side that
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: I was setting on on the ridge, I had the
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: lake to my right that which created a natural funnel,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: but a big funnel. I'm talking from me to the
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: lake was four hundred yards, but it was still a funnel. Yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: But in between me and the lake was a drainage.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: So all the deer, you know, it was obvious. They
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: all come down to tea in the evening and they're
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: there all night, and then they head back up into
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: the hills to bed. And I didn't I didn't want
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: to be real far back up in the heels. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: just don't want to speak, no, dear. I had a couple
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: of general ideas where I thought they would be bedding,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm pretty close. I'm not saying
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: they were bedding right there under that tree, but you know,
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: back there on that twenty acres or so, some of
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: the bucks would be bedded, and I just set up
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: accordingly off of it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: So looking into the future here pretending you didn't shoot
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: this buck, So like looking in the future here. October
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: fifteenth to call out October twenty second, it looks like
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: temperatures are going to be pretty stable, at least here
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: in Illinois where I'm looking for someone that is going
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: to potentially get some time to go hunt. The following
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: weekend here looks like it's going to be not the
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: best hunting conditions. What would you tell someone to key
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: in on and pay attention to if they have the
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: weekend they want to go hunting, What either food source
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: or train future should they key in on.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: In your opinion, I've always, always and still I would
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: rather go down and swinging on it ear than than
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: you know, than to just sat there to strike out.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: But I really feel like, no matter where you're hunting
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: on private or public land, man, it's all about the
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: weather fronts, especially this time of year. You know. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: see guys out there. I don't know if they're trying
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: to prove a point or nothing against them, but they're
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: just pound in it like right now. But if I
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: was somebody, I would definitely be waiting for like a
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty degrees cooler temperatures, some kind of front,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: and if you're hunting in the morning, I would be
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: somewhere close to that you think they're bedding, and in
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: the evening, I would probably be in the same general
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: area because I don't really think they're going to get
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: up and you know, will before were you know, dark
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: and bling around.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: If someone said, okay, yep, I don't I don't want
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: to necessarily burn some hunts on this, but I'm going
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: to have some free time.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I want a speed scalt.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: What what would you say for the fifteenth or the
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: twenty second, what do they need to specifically be looking
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: for to prepare for the next cold front.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I would I'll always start at the food sources, just
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: because it's the easiest thing to find, you, you know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: and a deer, I think there's over six hundred things
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: in their digest. They can really eat anything. But if
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: there's a shield cornfield down there, more than likely that's
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: going to be their destination, or rather it's a food
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: plot or a bait pile. I would think that, you know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: that's going to be what you won't want to focus
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: in on. And I'm not saying I wouldn't hunt the morning,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: but right now it really is more of an evening game,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: and you know, the closer that we get to the rut.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: The way that I've always you know, could tell when
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: things were starting to shift is like all my my
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: bigger buck pictures, my more mature deer, like three years
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: old and up. Most of them, if they're in the daylight,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: they're in the evening right now. And I feel like
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: that's probably how most people are. I'm not saying that
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: they don't get morning pictures, but when you kind of
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: see that kind of level out or change, you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: where you start getting just as many morning pictures as
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: you do evening, or you start to get a little
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: bit more. It's probably definitely getting to be a little
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: better time to start hunting. But I would definitely get
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: out there and scout, start at the food sources. I
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: probably wouldn't penetrate too deep, depend on where I was
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: at versus private or public. But I mean, we got
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: such a we got pretty much the whole month of
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: October November, which is you know, the apex of deer hunting, December,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: and a little bit of January.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It's a marathon. It's a marathon.
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, it really never ends.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: But I was just trying to hang out around the
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: food and you know, and if you're if you were
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: really good. If you had a lot of confidence, you know,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: you might want to try I poke around some betting.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I just the older I get, and you know, like
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: on this on this private man, I just I don't
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: want to on the public if I bump the deer,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I could move on to the next one, or I
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: could fall, or I could follow him around. I've always
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: done that, but now you know, like my back portal
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: where one hundred percent of my deer betting is seventy acres,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I don't want to put I don't want to push
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: them off where they spend half of you know, all
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: their daytime activity.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well no that I think that's great advice for
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: anyone here that's trying to develop a game plan. Congratulations
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: once again. Are you running a big buck fade at
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: the barber shop or if people need a big buck
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: fade where they get a haircut, they shoot a where
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: do they go?
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, come in here, We'll put BBD in the cyr.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I'll try do that for free.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: First person to get a big buck down fade gets
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: a free haircut where what is your barbershop's name? So
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: is case someone's there and they want to get a
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: big buck haircut.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: It's a Seabury barber shop. It's a Western Kentucky It's
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: actually in Seabury, Kentucky. And I will have part of
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: this barber shop by next season. I will have it
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: ready for like an Airbnb slash hunting camp style. I
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: got a totally separate room on the other side that
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: has its own entrance, and I do have a shower
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: and a toilet in here, so it'll be fully ready
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: for all the deer hunters. Love it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Congratulations again, Josh, Thank you sir.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: All right, Next up on the line, we have Chris
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Jones from Illinois, and I told you I was gonna
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: put you on the spot. What year do you think
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: the most amount of bucks or excuse me, the most
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: amount of deer were tagged in the state of Illinois.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: What year? And I can give you a hand if
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you need one.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's got to be in the two thousands.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: You're you're head in the right direction.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, uh, two thousand, I'm going out on a limb here.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, that's a good guess. It was
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: actually two thousand and seven. There was one hundred and
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: ninety nine thousand, seven hundred and five deer shot in
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: the state of Illinois that year, and then twenty twenty
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: four it was one hundred and fifty five thousand for reference,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: So f fun little fact for everyone out there. How's
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the deer wood's been here in the last week. We're
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: kind of on the back end of that first cold front.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Everyone was, you know, greatly excited about how has the
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: movement been for you? Yeah, it's definitely picked up the
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: last two days there. They hit greens yesterday and how
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: did one of the shooters come in at like ten thirty,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: which was kind of you know that deer doesn't normally
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: daylight until late season or the rut, but we're guessing
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: he's like eight and he hasn't. He showed up twice
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: the night before moved in, and then yesterday I'm like, man,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I think that he's just bedded too close and I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like risking it, so I didn't go in there.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I went to another farm just to make an observation set.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: But deer definitely starting to move there. On acorns, we're
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: starting to get a lot more scrape activity. I think
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: we've got like ten or twelve cell cameras we're gonna
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: put out this weekend. Now that the crops are coming out,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: we can get the e bikes and canm around to
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: find some more scrapes. But definitely better than it had been,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: but not great. It's still early October. Had we not
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: got that cold front, it'd be the same old October lowl.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: You know, we're not seeing nothing, you know, But yeah,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: that's I feel like it's always a balance of having
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: realistic expectations when we get an early cold front.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're in the fringe of the game, it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Could be really good, but if you still kind of
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: feel you're waiting on deer to shift around, it might
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: not feel as amazing as is maybe what it should
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: feel like.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Or if you go on Instagram and see people killing deer,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Man, it didn't happen for me on this front. What
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: have you been seeing? As far as you're you're in
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: farm country in Illinois, are what percentage if you had
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a guess of corn and beans that are out? I mean,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I know everyone's working really hard to get beans out.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: What would you say as terms of the amount of
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: crops out right now, I'd say we're probably forty percent
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: of our corn crop out and eighty percent beans. That's
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: actually seem As we get off of this, I'm gonna
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: jump back in the combine. Think we've got about fourteen
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: hundred acres of beans left, so we should finish up
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: next three or four days, fingers crossed. A lot of
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: crop is coming out. You know, we when right before
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: this cold front we got a little shot of.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Rain and.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know half inch of it. Maybe that afternoon
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: we were back to cutting beans. You know, that's how
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: dry it is. So a lot of it's coming out
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: super fast right now. With it being so dry, crops
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: getting out. You mentioned the hit green last night still acorns.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Has anything shifted from what your plan would have been
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: if we would have had normal rainfalls throughout August and
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: September to where it is today because of maybe food
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: plots are struggling. You know a lot of variables have
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: maybe changed from what the inititional plan would have been
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: for a lot of folks. What's your opinion on that.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I would have still focused on the food plots on
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: a cold front like this. On the greens, some are struggling.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I know, you know me and you talk quite often.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I've got some food plots that are just phenomenal. Right now,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: they've caught a couple of rains and then the stuff
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: that we spray on them. But there's the acorn crop
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: this year is insane. I mean they are everywhere, just
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: from all the spring rain that we got. But I
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't think that I would have done
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: anything differently. I'm a field edge hunter, you know. I
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: like being on the edge, and I like being on
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a food plot. You know, we're the tractors running constantly
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: all year planning food plots and spraying, and I don't know,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I just like looking at them, you know, so maybethetically beautiful.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Look at freaking food plots. Well, they are fun to
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: look at, they're fun to hunt. You get to see
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: deer and and it's really special when they do what
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to. So with your plan coming up here,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: so you know, pretending it's October fifteenth right now, then
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: maybe someone was busy that the weekend we're going into.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: But it would have been the weekend as before.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: As this goes live, For someone that is still struggling
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: or trying to find some deer or waiting for deer
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: to shift, what would you say for them if they
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: have five cameras, ten cameras, three cameras one camera to
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: go out and scout, like what are you keen in
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: on here this weekend to get set up for potentially
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: the next cold front or better days ahead of us.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Every property that I have permission to be on, I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: checking all those right now to see if the farmer
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: has gotten the crop out. If so, I'm going in.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I'm juicing up a scrape that's already been started and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: hanging a camera on it, and I'm gonna let her
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: rip till the end of the month, and then after that,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I'm jumping in a fence row whenever we start seeing
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: some rut activity, I'm jumping in fence row and I'm camping.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: As far as what you've seen over the years from
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: running cameras, you know, knowing from the fifteenth to the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: twenty second, are you anticipating a deer to show back up?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: One to pop up out of nowhere? You know, like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you know, grow out of the ground. I mean, it
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: can be an exciting time of year to be hanging
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: cameras and check out absolutely like you know this time
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: of the year, after they shed their velvet, we'll have
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: seven eight target bucks that were what we're king in on.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Typically we get those, we typically harvest those.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: There's usually probably that many, if not more, that are
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: giving bucks bonus bucks that we never even knew existed.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Last year, we shot at one to eighty that we
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: never even knew that where the deer was. And we
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: got to look and we're like, where is this deer
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: even living at. He was in the middle of a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: five hundred acre cornfield that had a pond in it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: with a tree line that he could come easy in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: and easy out. Nobody detected him. A lot of people
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: don't look at those farms. You know, this is fence
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: rowing crick system country. That's where we're hunting. And everybody
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: overlooks these fence rows during the rut and it's like,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: you know, we had one guy a couple of years
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: ago from Maine, not in the big woods, and I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: put him in this little five acre fence row and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: he's like, you're seriously putting me here. I paid money
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: to hunt this, and I'm like, just.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Just give me.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Today ends up killing a one sixty biggest deer that
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: he's ever seen in his life, and saw like twenty
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: five deer that day, so that's what I'm looking for
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: right now. But if I was a guy that didn't
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: have a target buck on camera right now, I would
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: be finding scrapes and getting.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: It on there.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's exactly what my plans are
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: this weekend, as well as to go out and look
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: for sign hang cameras on scrapes. I've poked around here
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit this week from getting back from my
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: trip and dude finding finding some of those first scrapes
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: that got worked up. That it just it puts me
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: in the mood because it's like, oh man, they're deer
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: doing what.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: They're supposed to. It's getting exciting.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Those those scrapes and cameras are such a huge part
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: of seeing what's going on, especially in farm country and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: probably really anywhere across the country. I mean, it's just
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: a great intel hub to develop a plan. One one
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: thing that I feel like a lot of people have
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: an opinion on this and I want to get yours
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: really quickly, is you get a big buck on a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: scrape in the middle of the night.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Are you encouraged or discouraged.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I'm encouraged because in the next two or three days
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: he's going to daylight. So if the if the wind's right,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I'll set on it for three days, you know, whil
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I've done it four days and we've and we've killed
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: the deer, you know, but he's closed. If he's there
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: in the middle night, he's close. And especially if there's
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: a cold front coming in, you know, you definitely better
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: be on that and you're probably going to kill him.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: On that's great.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about So we're looking here in the extended forecast,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be not anything special
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: here for the next seven days. What is your outlook
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: regarding that? On a scale one to ten, ten being
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to be the best week of the year,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: one being absolutely terrible. So where where does the fall
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: between one and ten? Knowing conditions aren't going to be
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: anything exceptional, but it is an exciting time. I'm going
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: to say one, I'm not too I'm not too excited
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: And I don't know if that's because I'm.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Still good beans to cut, you know. I was jacked up,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: My wife last night she's like, Hey, we need to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: go do this, and I'm like no, I'm like, it's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: the coldest evening of the year. So far I'm hunting.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, call my mom, have her give you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: a riodte or something, grab the kids, and I was like,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I got to get back in the combine for the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: next you know, five six days or whatever. So I'm
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: not really too jacked up this week. I just I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: want to find some more scrape just get cameras on them.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Next weekend looks like we're gonna dip back down in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: the low seventies, and then here on out from then,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: it looks like we're gonna stay cool, So main focus,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: get the beans out. Then we'll focus the rest of
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the time on the deer. And uh, I think that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: we're going to be surprised what deer show up on
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: cameras this year, you know, the deer that we didn't
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: know just for the simple fact of this spring was
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: so wet and all the way up. You know, most
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of the summer antler growth was really great. Like you know,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I've sent you a lot of pictures. We've found a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: lot of big deer this year. Each d We've not
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: been hit too hard with that. I'm sure we've found
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: some dead deer in the fields, but other than that,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: I've not found any others and and some other farmers
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: i've spoke to have found a few, but I think
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: that we're going to be really surprised what's gonna show
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: up on some of these scrapes. You know what it's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: like trying to find deer with the cornst Mu's impossible.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: The good Yeah, there's there's a great shift.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: So your strategy is more scouting over the next seven
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: days to get prepared for the next front. Be really
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: keyed in on what bucks are showing up and what's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: sticking around. And uh yeah, I think I was not
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: expecting to one. So I really appreciate the cancer. I'm
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: telling us what you think here, I mean this week,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: other than getting the cameras on on new scrapes, other
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: than I could care less what the deer are doing
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: right now, you know, like as many food plots as
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: we plant.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm a late season hunter.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I want I just want to camp out in a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: redneck or whatever and just watch them. I mean, that's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: the funnest time of the year for me, especially in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: that time you're getting Arctic blasts essentially, and they're just
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: hammering him and it's awesome to sit in a food
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: put watch forty deer and wait for a shooter to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: come in and then get upset because you can't get
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: a shot off on him because there's so many does looking,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: you know, around, so many eyes but I don't know,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: scrape buttons a lot of fun too. It can just
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: it's super frustrating. Yeah, well to find the scrapes, hang
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: some cameras, maybe throw us it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the season.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Hopefully the rest of Harvest goes really smooth for you guys,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: and I really appreciate it, and good luck.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Dude, there, you guys have I hope you guys enjoyed
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: this week's episode of Rough Fresh. I want to say
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: thanks to Hunter, Rob and Josh and Chris forgiving their updates, and.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a great week.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you get an opportunity, opportunity to scout or keep
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: tabs on what's going on and prepare for this next
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: cold front, or if you have some time, go out
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: and hunt based off some of the intel that you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: guys received here today. Until next time, We'll see you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: next week on Rough Fresh. See you