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Joe Rogan Experience _2410 - Jeff Dye(M4A_128K) · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: Checking out the Joe Logan Experience train, my day Joe
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  Speaker 1: Rogan podcast by night all day. I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 1: to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key.
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  Speaker 1: That's but they tricking me, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: They're with the algorithm. These motherfuckers. They get me too.
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  Speaker 2: They get me in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking about it with Jamie that like
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  Speaker 1: are we rolling? Yeah, we're talking about with him is
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  Speaker 1: like I'm so good at like not caring what people
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  Speaker 1: think sort of, and then I find no, I really
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  Speaker 1: care a lot. Like I'm like in a constant dug
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  Speaker 1: of war of that because I used to have Google
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  Speaker 1: alerts on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no for your name? Yeah yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 2: had to get rid of that. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then I was like, I'm gonna check the YouTube comments.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that was a ring that I had to close.
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  Speaker 1: I'm slowly closing the rings. The ring I'm stuck in
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  Speaker 1: right now is checking what like my comedy peers are
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  Speaker 1: up to, you know, that kind of stuff, the one
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  Speaker 1: that they make video Cigar, the videos they make of
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  Speaker 1: like uh so and so is is you know having
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  Speaker 1: a breakdown or Mark Maron said this or those kind
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  Speaker 1: of like those rings, you know, but I need to
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  Speaker 1: close that I want to get. I want to have
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  Speaker 1: no none of it. I want to I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to check any comments or any anything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm much better at this stuff than I ever have
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  Speaker 2: been in the past of avoiding most things that are annoying.
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  Speaker 2: But every now and then one will sneak in, And
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  Speaker 2: then why do I let that sneak in?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Bothered me? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I texted, yeah, check this out, agains. Don't send me
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  Speaker 1: shit like this.
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  Speaker 2: The Ronda Rowsey one didn't really bother me. Okay, good,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I know what that is. You know, like
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  Speaker 2: she's a She's a fucking pit bull man. That's uh
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  Speaker 2: the type of humans.
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  Speaker 1: Brother, Do you mind if I tell you my opinion
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  Speaker 1: of Ronda Rossi and you tell me if I'm right
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  Speaker 1: or not. You're good because you know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: And I am not a uf I like. I like UFC,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't you know, you know these things. So
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  Speaker 1: I've always said, like Ronda Rawsi was a badass, right,
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  Speaker 1: and was awesome at fighting when there was like thirty
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  Speaker 1: girls doing it in the professionally at her level. M hmm, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's why I said I might be wrong. But then
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  Speaker 1: there was probably all these girls who could really fight
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  Speaker 1: all over the world, like in Japan and other countries
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  Speaker 1: and even maybe even in America that just weren't in UFC.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, I could probably beat this chick. And now
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  Speaker 1: that there's so many women competing on this level, like
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  Speaker 1: Ronda Rassi probably isn't in her prime as bad ass
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  Speaker 1: as like the field.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's very difficult to when someone's a pioneer, she's
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  Speaker 2: a legitimate pioneer, it's very difficult to compare them to
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  Speaker 2: the people that have had a chance to study the
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  Speaker 2: pioneers and then advance the sport. Right, So what she
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  Speaker 2: was is high fella, She's a legend. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: got nothing but love and respect for that lady. What
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  Speaker 2: she did was so impressive. She was the first legitimate
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  Speaker 2: female superstar. She may aid the UFC female division possible
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  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for her. Dana was very open about
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  Speaker 2: never having female UFC fighters. It took someone that was
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  Speaker 2: that dynamic, that was that special to open his eyes
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  Speaker 2: and go, you know what, I think, this lady is
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  Speaker 2: a star and to be the type like when she said,
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  Speaker 2: like I wasn't an expert and everyone's entitled to their opinion,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but you got to understand why she thinks
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  Speaker 2: like that, because she's a fucking she has a champion mentality.
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  Speaker 2: You never fought, You ain't shit. You know. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's real simple.
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  Speaker 1: The football game you didn't play again, I studied the
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  Speaker 1: sport matter.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't shit. I get it. It's totally fine. You
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  Speaker 2: can't judge her like compare her to like Jonggwi Lee,
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  Speaker 2: because like Jiangwe Lee, who was the one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifteen pound champion, she had a chance to watch all
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  Speaker 2: these other people learn what they're doing right, what they're
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  Speaker 2: doing wrong, what's effective, what's not effective. What Ronda had
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  Speaker 2: is world class judo, world class bronze medalist sneeling, one
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  Speaker 2: of the best arm bars period in the sport, in
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  Speaker 2: the history of the sport. Her fucking arm bar, the
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  Speaker 2: technique was flawless. There is a fight with her and Katzangano.
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  Speaker 2: Katsinghano launches at her, just fucking Katzingana was an animal,
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  Speaker 2: charges at her full Ronda catches her in an arm
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  Speaker 2: bar in like thirteen seconds. I don't remember the exact time.
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  Speaker 2: It was nuts, but it was perfect, perfect technique. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't fuck with that. But then she fought Holly Holme.
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  Speaker 2: And when she fought Holly Holme, she was dealing with
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  Speaker 2: an elite boxer, an elite kickboxer, and a very physically
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  Speaker 2: strong woman who had an awesome game plan and who
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  Speaker 2: had a chance to study Ronda and maybe more importantly,
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  Speaker 2: came from a great camp in that camp, Jackson Wiggle
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  Speaker 2: John Camp, one of the best camps in the world.
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  Speaker 2: John Jones came out of that camp. Holly Donald Cerroni
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  Speaker 2: originally came out of that camp. A lot of great
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  Speaker 2: fighters came out of there, so they were really good
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  Speaker 2: at game planning. So they knew how Ronda likes to clinch,
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  Speaker 2: they knew how Ronda likes to set up her takedowns,
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  Speaker 2: and they knew, you know what to avoid. And then
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  Speaker 2: on top of that, Holly is just an elite striker.
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  Speaker 2: So every time Ronda tried to close the distance, the
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  Speaker 2: striking that she was very effective with against guys like
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  Speaker 2: betch Kohea, these fighters that were a lower tier, it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be as effective with someone like Holly.
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  Speaker 2: And Holly started catching her on the feet and had
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  Speaker 2: her rocked and then landed that famous high kick and
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  Speaker 2: put her out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I thought they were like the same age and
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  Speaker 1: same era, but like Hally's after she was able to
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  Speaker 1: learn from.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say they are the same era. But Holly,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she had wins and losses. She lost to
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  Speaker 2: Valentino Chevchenko, she lost to some other fighters, and but
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  Speaker 2: it was stylistically, it was a great matchup for her
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  Speaker 2: because she's an elite striker. She's really good at counter
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  Speaker 2: striker striking. She's really good at movement, and when Ronda
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  Speaker 2: has to close that distance, every fight starts on the feet,
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  Speaker 2: and when you're with a very physically strong woman's a
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  Speaker 2: good takedown defense and as good at like catching you
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  Speaker 2: as you're charging in that was that was the problem
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  Speaker 2: in that fight. Also, the problem in that fight, I
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  Speaker 2: think for Rhonda is when you start becoming really famous,
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  Speaker 2: then the hyenas show up and they start offering you
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  Speaker 2: this and offering you that, and distracting you with this
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  Speaker 2: and distracting you with that. And now you're going to
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  Speaker 2: meetings and you're talking to agents, and you're setting up movies,
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  Speaker 2: and you're doing this, and you're doing that, and all
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  Speaker 2: those things take away from the most important thing, which
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  Speaker 2: is you're fighting. Even if they don't take away from
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  Speaker 2: the amount of training you do, they take away from
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  Speaker 2: your focus. They just they rob you of the bandwidth.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I always telling the comics this when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: like dealing with haters and things online that you shouldn't read.
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  Speaker 2: You only have like think of your mind as having
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  Speaker 2: a number of units of attention. Think you have a
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  Speaker 2: one hundred units of focus. Anything that eats into those units,
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  Speaker 2: anything that bothers you, that annoys you, that's useless, that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't help you, that's stealing from your one hundred you know.
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  Speaker 2: So now you only have eighty units or seventy units
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  Speaker 2: of focus because thirty of it is concentrated on bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: It'll rob you of what makes you great. So there
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  Speaker 2: was two factors. There was the skill of Holly, the
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  Speaker 2: fact that she had all this opportunity to study Ronda
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  Speaker 2: and with a great team and devise a game plan.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's also the stealing of focus. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Ronda I was one of the biggest champions of her
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  Speaker 2: as a fighter as as a like a legitimate pioneer
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  Speaker 2: and a star. There was first it was Gina Carano
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  Speaker 2: and Chris Cyborg, to a certain extent, But Cyborg had
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  Speaker 2: an asteris because everybody knew she was roighted up. And
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  Speaker 2: then it was Ronda, but Rondo eclipsed all of them.
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  Speaker 2: She was bigger than all of them. I was a
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  Speaker 2: huge supporter and steal am. But when you want a
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  Speaker 2: fight and you're watching you get your ass kicked and
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  Speaker 2: the other person is talking about how great the other
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  Speaker 2: person is doing and how bad you're doing, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: sit well with a lot of people, especially like someone
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  Speaker 2: who's got that kind of champion mentality, that fucking pit
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  Speaker 2: pull mentality, Like I thought you were with me, fuck
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  Speaker 2: you yeah. And then it was after the fight, I
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  Speaker 2: was very public about saying I don't think she should
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  Speaker 2: fight for a long time. They were talking about doing
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  Speaker 2: an immediate rematch, and I was like, that's crazy, Like
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  Speaker 2: they were talking about doing a rematch in four months
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. I was like, when you get
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  Speaker 2: head kicked into the shadow realm, you're supposed to take
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  Speaker 2: a long time off. When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out
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  Speaker 2: by one Manuel Marquez, it was a fucking picture perfect
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  Speaker 2: right hand who knocked that knocked Manny Pacio out. His coach,
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  Speaker 2: Freddie Roach said, you can't fight for a year. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want you doing anything for a year for one year,
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  Speaker 2: because you got to heal up from something like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's bad when you get knocked uncos it's not
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  Speaker 2: just that you'll be a touch gun shy, which is possible,
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  Speaker 2: but also that you're more vulnerable to getting hit and
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: then you could ruin your chin forever, like if you
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  Speaker 2: get knocked out. There's certain fighters that used to have
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  Speaker 2: iron chins, like Chuck Withdell's one of the greatest examples
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  Speaker 2: of that. He had an iron chin. You could hit
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  Speaker 2: that dude with a fucking sledgehammer and he would just
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  Speaker 2: keep swinging at you. And then eventually it got to
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  Speaker 2: the point where he would get clipped and he would
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  Speaker 2: just go out and it wasn't him, it was his
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  Speaker 2: brain was broken. There was too many times, too many shots,
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  Speaker 2: too many knockouts, too many impacts. You got to preserve that.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta be very careful with that. You got to
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  Speaker 2: take a long time off. And then there was the
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  Speaker 2: Amanda new Nest fight. So the Amanda new Nest fight,
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  Speaker 2: I was also very vocal that everybody was putting all
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  Speaker 2: of the attention in the promotion on Ronda making this
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  Speaker 2: huge comeback, and if you watch the promos for that fight,
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were crazy disrespectful because the promos and obviously, look,
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  Speaker 2: Ronda was a fucking huge star, a much bigger star
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  Speaker 2: than Amanda Newts, and that loss was a shocking upset
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of people that didn't understand martial arts
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  Speaker 2: and didn't think that Holly had a chance, didn't think
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  Speaker 2: anybody had a chance. She was gonna beat everybody forever.
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  Speaker 2: But all the promo was Ronda coming back. All of
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  Speaker 2: it was like She's coming back to take what's hers.
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  Speaker 2: It was Ronda in a mansion looking out It was
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  Speaker 2: like the worst promo set, like Ronda in a mansion
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  Speaker 2: looking out the window saying I'm gonna get my title.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who made that. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was, but I remember being backstage the day of
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: the fight and there was all these agents mulling around,
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  Speaker 2: all these Hollywood twats, and this guy was like, I
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  Speaker 2: forget his exact words. They were talking. He didn't know
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  Speaker 2: who Ronda was fighting, and he said who. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what her name is, but whoever it is, it's
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  Speaker 2: her funeral. That's what he said. I was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, like these are the people. Meanwhile, Amanda News
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  Speaker 2: was the scared person at won thirty five, and that's
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: what I had said before she fought a Holly Home.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like Dana and I talked about it. I said,
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  Speaker 2: I think Amanda's the scariest title challenger because she can
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: flat line chicks with one punch. She's very different than
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  Speaker 2: all the other ones. She wound up flat lining Chris Cyborg.
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  Speaker 2: It was a crazy fight. She beats the fuck out
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  Speaker 2: of everybody. She hits so hard, like way harder than
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  Speaker 2: most women. And I was like, that's a dangerous fucking opponent.
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  Speaker 2: And they're making it seem like this is all about
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  Speaker 2: the Ronda come back. When Amanda was the champion. So
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  Speaker 2: Holly had beaten Ronda, Meshad Tate had beaten Holly, and
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  Speaker 2: then Amanda had beaten me Should Tate, so Amanda was
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  Speaker 2: the fucking champion. But all the promotion was all about Ronda.
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  Speaker 2: And then they're.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to do like pro wrestling, Like I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know what they were all to come back. I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they were just selling the fight. They were
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: selling it, and the best way to sell it is,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that way, but it's disrespectful to the champion,
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  Speaker 2: especially a fucking dangerous champion. And if she if the
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  Speaker 2: champion wins, which I thought she was going to win,
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  Speaker 2: it sets up it's not good to set her up
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  Speaker 2: like you should set her up, like how fucking danger
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  Speaker 2: she is. Now you've got a bigger star. Obviously she
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  Speaker 2: wound up being a bigger star. And Amanda's the greatest
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  Speaker 2: of all time, like widely considered to be the greatest
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  Speaker 2: mixed martial arts female fighter in history because she fucks
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  Speaker 2: everybody up. She's just so dangerous. So and then that
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  Speaker 2: fight happens, and then that lady takes Ronda out in
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  Speaker 2: the first round, just beats the piss out of her,
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  Speaker 2: just stops her standing. Just it was brutal. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I never had a bad thing to say about Ronda.
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  Speaker 2: I still don't I understand her mentality. I mean, she's
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  Speaker 2: a champion minded person, like she's like, you're fucking with
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  Speaker 2: me or against me. It's me against the world. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't have a chip on her shoulder. She's had
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  Speaker 2: a forest. She got a whole forest on her shoulder. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, but that's why she was
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  Speaker 2: so good, and we're lucky she's a woman. If that
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  Speaker 2: lady was a man, she'd be Genghis Khan. Okay, she'd
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  Speaker 2: fucking Dike over the world. She's an animal scary, so
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  Speaker 2: that's why she has that opinion. That's just how she
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  Speaker 2: thinks about things.
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  Speaker 1: I was mad at her just as an everyday man,
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  Speaker 1: because my nieces love any woman that's famous for any reason,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And my nieces also aren't experts about UFC
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  Speaker 1: little girls, and they just think it's cool that a
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  Speaker 1: woman's a badass, you know. They like that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And so then when she lost to like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be on TikTok, I mean, actually people made tiktoks of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like Ronda RAUSEI was on TikTok, but like
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  Speaker 1: she was like on Ellen being like I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to quit, and I saw my man and I just
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  Speaker 1: realized I want to have babies, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is not really the message, you know, if you'll
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  Speaker 1: lose to just go be a pro wrestler or have
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  Speaker 1: babies like that's not like I don't know. I felt
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  Speaker 1: like it was a strange way for a champion to talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's her legitimately as a human being. That's
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  Speaker 2: what she wanted here, And there comes a time that's
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  Speaker 2: good Now, that would be a fine way to frame it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: she was being honest. She wanted to have babies. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to do it anymore. And that there comes
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: a time where every fighter can only redline for so long,
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  Speaker 2: and the reality of fighting is your redlining. You know
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  Speaker 2: what a red line when the engine, you know, when
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: your techometer reaches like eight thousand RPM's like right. You
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  Speaker 2: can only do that for so long or your engine blows.
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  Speaker 2: But to be in peak physical condition, to be able
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  Speaker 2: to fight in a championship fight, you essentially have to
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: redline your body through camp. You have to get your
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: body to a place where it's at a rap. You
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: can't maintain fight shape, it's not possible. You get to
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  Speaker 2: a certain part, you peak, and then the last week
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  Speaker 2: you kind of drop off so that you can recover.
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  Speaker 2: And so that Saturday night, when Saturday night rolls up
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  Speaker 2: and the lights go on in Madison Square Garden, you
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: are as fucking ready as a human being can get.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't maintain that, and you can't do that forever.
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  Speaker 2: This is only and they think that there's a theory
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  Speaker 2: amongst mixed martial arts commentators and experts and what have
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  Speaker 2: you that is about nine years. Nine years is all
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  Speaker 2: it's pop to compete at a peak level and then
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: you get a drop off. Some people have more longevity
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  Speaker 2: than others vary. Some people it's a much shorter rain,
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  Speaker 2: and you got to kind of look at who they
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: were when they were at the top. You can only
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: look at them when they're at that peak. Like guys
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  Speaker 2: like Anderson Silva, he gets kind of dismissed because later
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  Speaker 2: in his life the performances weren't the same, they weren't
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  Speaker 2: elite performances. But I say, that's just human. You got
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: to look at him when he was the champion. He
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  Speaker 2: was one of the most elite guys that's ever competed
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  Speaker 2: in the sport period. He's one of the greatest of
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  Speaker 2: all time. But you can only you got to look
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  Speaker 2: at when he was in his prime, you know, And
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: there's only a certain amount of time you can do that.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: And then when a fighter doesn't want to do that
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  Speaker 2: and only that anymore, you gotta get out. You gotta
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: get out because there's some fucking twenty year old Mike
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  Speaker 2: Tyson out there. There's some animal. There's some dude that
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: lives breeze, sleeps fighting, and they all they want to
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: do is land shots and take you out. They just
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: they that's their whole focus in life. They don't give
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: a fuck about relationships, they don't give a fuck about
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  Speaker 2: where they live. They don't give a fuck about anything.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Just winning. And that's how you become a world champion,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: that's how you become elite. You can only maintain it
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: for so long. It's not a normal way for a
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: human being to exist. It's a very strange way to live. Yeah,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: you know, and for her it's natural. Like she's a woman.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: She's like, I won't have babies. I was a great
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: man and she's married to Travis Brown, was also a
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: beast who was an elite UFC heavyweight, top ten heavyweight.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: You know, She's like, I'm done. I make some warrior kids.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I saw it and I was like, what the hell
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: is that man quin?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: She just didn't want no.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Now, my niece is root for Holly Home good lady.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Holly Holme's nice.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: She is nice.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we like. We like the winners who
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: are nice.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, but there's something about Rhonda being
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: RNDA that made the sport what it is.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: But it's for Luke Skywalker, not Darth Vader. He's not sure.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Darth Vader's cooler, and he's probably more strong, he's got
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the thing, you know. But you know, Luke's the good guy,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and I like the good guy. She's not root for
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the good guy.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: She's not a bad guy. She's you know, like, look,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: her mother was a badass. Her mother was an elite
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: judo competitor.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Actually, I hate disagreeing with you, Joe, but she's She
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: went to wrestling Rhonda, and then she said all these
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: terrible things about the wrestlers.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: She said terrible about you. Don't say anything terrible about me.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: She said, you're not an expert, that's all she said.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: It's also that's not terrible, that's just an opinions mean
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to me. No, no, no, that's all. Look, if I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: was a pussy, it would be mean.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Well I'm a pussy.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing. If I was wedde dude, that's
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: my whole life.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Say I. You know, she she's kind of a grumpy,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: gnarly warrior, and warriors can be a little prickly.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: She's definitely prickly. Yeah, yeah, that's all. But that's why
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: she was awesome, you know, that's what her great it was.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: She broke that door wide open, and all the women
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: that came afterwards follow. And it's hard for women to
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: become famous in MMA because it's hard for them to
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: have the kind of spectacular results that men have. They
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: generally don't have as much power and unless they're like elite,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: a judo or something like that like she was, where
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: they get arm bars and finish people quickly. But that's
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: what everybody likes. Everybody likes dominance, and I want them
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to be hot. That helps. That's a good one, but
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: it's hard to mix those worlds. Yeah, you get niche
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: warrior her Holly. There's only a few of them that
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: were really hot and.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Elite and the old day they weren't looking at the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: battle lines and they're going, ah, I wish these warriors
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: had more tits. Like that's what I'm like, a very
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: conflicted person. I wanted to be bad ass but also hot, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and crazy to get both of them.
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  Speaker 2: be super crazy, Yeah for sure, especially while they're fighting.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like, you don't really want that in
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: your life. It's like no, wait, you know what it's like.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: It's like a muscle car. Like muscle cars are great
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to drive, but you don't want to take him on
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: a road track.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Dude, Shabby took me to So I have a great
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Lakers hook up, right. I go to all the Lakers
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: games and I invited Brandon Schobb when we first became friends.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I say, you want to come to the Lakers game
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: with me? You like it? We sit, We have great seats.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You will put you in the bill, you will meet
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the owner. It'll be great. So that's my only kind
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of flex, you know that can bring people to these
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: kind of things. I don't have a lot to offer,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but I can offer that. So he's like, yeah, I'll
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: pick you up. And he comes to my house. Brandon
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Schobb comes to my house like a race car. I mean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: this thing is it's got the big spoiler on the back. Also,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: we're both big guys. I'm six four, he's I don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: know how tall he is, but he's taller than me,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and we're in this tiny thing in traffic on the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: one on one going to a Lakers game and we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: can barely talk. We're both talkers, you know, and it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: like the whole time, and I was just sit like
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: what halfway through the drive, as even though we were
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: like new friends at the time, like what made you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: pick this car? You have other cars? And he goes, well,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're like a little kid, and my son loves this car,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: so I just I picked it because of you.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You're like a little kid. That's hilarious.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And he was right because when he pulled up, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is awesome. But then I got
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in and I was like, bro, we're not built for
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: this thing. It's dying. Yeah, but that's not like your analogy,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Like that's not a day to.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Day No, that's not a road trip car. You want
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to be in a Cadillac, you know, want to be
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: something that's quiet and real smooth and handles bumps well
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: exactly like a person, right, yeah, yeah, Like you want
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you want a one night stand, you want a muscle car,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you want a long term relationship, Get Alexis.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: And if you go to the Lakers game, bring a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: goddamn suv or something and something traffic.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Bring something quiet with conditioning. His thought.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: His heart was in the right place, and he was
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: completely right.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: What car was it?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: You don't know what it's like. I mean, I wouldn't
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: even be able to guess.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: You know. Cool though you're not into cars.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I love cars, but I like the car I like.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I've always loved big stupid things, like like big military vehicles. Yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I love all that stuff.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a real hummer with like a crazy
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Diesel turbocharged engine.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Last time I was here and I did his podcast,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: he had this huge Bronco that he was like doing
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: some thing where you're selling it like enough people buy
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: tickets for it or something like that.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that truck was a beautiful truck.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And I like, like that's what I like, is like
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: big stupid tires. Anything in Mad Max. I loved anything
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the military drives. Was like, can I buy that? They're like, no,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: this is it's not built for that. You can buy
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of things those, Yeah, but they're like you
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: got to go to those auctions and ship.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was you just got to know people. You
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: can get a lot of things these days.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I would love that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I've never owned anything that fits in my garage. No, No,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I have to park on the street all the time.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I did to get rid of my last jeep because
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I put like forty six inch tires on it and
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I lifted it up, and like it has no doors
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and no top, and so it's just parked in Sherman
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Oaks on the street. And I'm on the road so
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: much and it just sitting there, just sitting there. So
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I come back, there'd be you know, just like someone
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: would walk by with like a soda and just throw
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it in there, you know, because you know they don't care.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: They get mad at you. Right, you have what a douche?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And where I am, it's not popular to have
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: cool big ship like that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Right, Sherman Oaks is popular to have a Prius with
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a coexists bumper sticker.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: It's so annoying. I have a cyber truck and I
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you can't really lift it. But since it has an
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: air suspension, you can buy pins that make the air
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: suspension one inch larger than whatever it's adjusting to. Because
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: if you put a lift on it, it's gonna screw
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it all up. So Anyways, long story short, I have
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a lifted cyber truck with big stupid tires on it,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and I drive into the comedy store parking lot and
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this really isn't helping my reputation? Every time
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I rolling, everyone's like, what is that?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: It used to be that if you had a Tesla,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you were you were signaling that you were a left
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: wing person. You know, you're environmentally conscious, worried about car.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: That was one of the more crazy shifts. And we
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: could come up with a thousand of these. But like
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: evis used to be considered like this great thing you're
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: doing well. They still are in unless it's a cyber truck.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Unless it's a Tesla.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Trum every day really in my cyber truck, yeah, every day.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: There's a video of this lady in New Jersey. She
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: gets out of a cyber truck, just gets out. She
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: was a passenger, and this lady who's walking her dog goes,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: how does it feel to be racist? And she's like, like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about? She got a ride, she wasn't
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: even driving her off. She's like, what are you talking about? Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you're racist. You're in a cyber truck. You're racist, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: she's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You're You're crazy.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It blows my mind.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Well, people are always looking for every possible opportunity to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: be a shithead. And if they can be a shithead,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: if they're justified in being a shithead because they disagree
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: with you, they would be the meanest motherfuckers just to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: be a shitthead. And that activity happens primarily on the left, primarily,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Like you don't see that from the right. Like if
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: someone pulls up in a prius with a Coexist bumper sticker,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you don't see a bunch of guys going, hey, you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: fucking pussy, exactly what do you support? And fucking Iraq?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Where you supporting ISIS with your fucking bullshit fucking bumper
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: stick or back car? Has it feel to be an
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: ISIS supporter? You don't get that ever, But you get
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: that from the left, and I don't. I think it's
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the Trump thing. I think Trump was such a figure,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is such a figure of like an attack vector, that
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they look at him like.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Fun for them. Yeah, yeah, they have an enemy their
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: brain at all times.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: They have an enemy. Yeah, Like Jimmy Kimmel's wife was
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: doing some podcasts recently Jimmy and the Wife, and the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Wife is saying that she has a hard time talking
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to her relatives because they voted for Trump. She says, like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: if you vote for Trump, you're voting against Mike. Yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you're voting against my husband and my family.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you talk about? Well, I think that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that's the big sy op. They've made everything racial. Everything
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: is racial, and so the last thing you want to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: be called is a racist, right, So when you make
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it as simple as race, like just racial, like just
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: that blanketly simple, then anything another color does, you'd be considered.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So you go, oh, I don't really believe, or I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: think Muslims are blank, whatever that sentence is. They go racist,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and well, there's surely some things we could criticize about,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: maybe North Korea.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: They go, oh, you're racist.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's because it's so simple and it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so vague, and people love to keep vague things because
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: then they can make their I saw a comedian. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: won't say her name because I can't pronounce it. But
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: it's that's why I won't say it now, because I'm
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: holding back names. Mary Lynn Reisch GiB or Reis GiB
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: or whatever her name is. Yeah, she used to be
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: really nice to me, and then she used to be Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: She she got caught talking shit about me and I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: DMed her immediately and then she's like, oh, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I think she's a nice person.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: She's a person, she's.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Nice and people get caught up in that shop. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: saw her do a bit the other night in the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: lab where she was like, she was like, I'm texting
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: with this guy and he said, she said, how are you,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and he said, I'm just really sad of today about
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie Kirk. And then she goes and my hand
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: was like my phone was on fire. I was like what.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And then the crowd laughed to her defense, like the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: lab at the improv thought this was a hilarious premise.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And then she said she was like, oh, what part
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of his ideas did you find so gripping? What was
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it his racist And she just started launching into like
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: about how like the fact that a guy she liked
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: would be sad about Charlie Kirk's assassination was the biggest
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: turn off to her that she wrote like a whole
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: bit about it, and I was just in my mind,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe that this is her take.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it's a take that the crowd is
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: on board with. And I can't believe I'm in this
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: town anymore. Like I was like a moment for me
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: where I was like, what am I am? I insane? No, Like,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that's what makes me. Those are the moments where you go,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I think I'm the crazy person. There's a room full
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of people here who agree that Charlie Kirk must have
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: been this terrible thing and hence deserves being publicly assassinated.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And if you feel sad about it, you're gross to her.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: And she wants to throw her phone away and.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: She wants to go And that's hilarious to everyone because
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the simple vagueness of race, you know, it's like this,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: this this constant obsession with you know, you have to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: agree with a socialist mayor in New York, or you
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: must be a racist or islam folk. They've just made
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it so vague that it's very easy to always label
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: herb or put things in a thing.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Well, there's there's certainly cult like thinking involved in both
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the right and the left. That's it's a real problem
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: with people that identify with any political ideology, whether they're
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: identify as being a conservative or identify as being a liberal.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: It's a real problem because then you lose all your
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: objective thinking and you have to agree with everything that
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: this side supports, and generally that's never a good thing
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to just agree with like a swath. I have predetermined ideas, yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and one is that public assassinations are okay, and that
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: they're not sad. They're sad no matter who it is.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And I would say, even if Charlie Kirk was a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: terrible person, even if he was, which he was not.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I knew him and he was not. But even if
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: he was, let's say they're right about all those things.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: You're happy that he got shot.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Now, the correct way to handle someone who has bad
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: ideas is to conf front them with better ideas. It's
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: not a thirty odd to six round to the neck
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: right publicly where people are cheering. That's crazy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And they kept it vague. They keep it vague. That's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: how it always works. It's like, well, I go, well,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: why don't why are you? Why are you posting on
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: social media that you're happy about it or that you're
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: not sad about it? Just tell me simply why you
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: think that, And I think, well, because his ideas were dangerous,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: super vague. Didn't say the ideas, didn't say how they're
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: dangerous or why they're dangerous. It's always vague.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Well, there's also a problem with clips. When you take
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: sound bites, like very short clips, out of context of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: what someone's saying, and then you highlight that one particular
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: sentence and the way they said that sentence, you could
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: frame someone in a very different way than who they
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: really are. And I think there was some problems with
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: some of the things that Charlie said, the way he
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: said them, and in the fact that you could take
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it as a clip. And one of them was the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: idea of dei pilots, the idea of any lowering of
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: standards of anyone in a really important job like a pilot,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: because a person is blank fill in the blank, because
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: they are a lesbian, or because they're gay, or because
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: they're white, or because they're Chinese, or because they're black,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is. If you're lowering standards because you
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: want more people of one thing, well you've just made
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the skies a little more dangerous. You made a very
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: dangerous thing, which is flying a little more dangerous. So
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: his statement was because they're doing this and they're trying
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to get they're using DEI to hire people. And when
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I get on a plane and I see a black pilot,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I hope that they're qualified.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Or he wonders, Yeah, he said, I don't want. I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: hate that when I see a black pilot, my mind
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: thinks I wonder if they were part of a DEI
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: hiring correct.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's it's a problem in the way said it
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: instead of saying that that way. Because one of the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: things that I pointed out is that what DEI, especially
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: in regards to education, the people that discriminates the most against,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Like people say it's a white supremacist idea to uh
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to be against DEI, the people that DEI discriminates the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: most against in education is Asians because Asians fucking kill
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it in universities. They kill it so much so that
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: there was a giant lawsuit at Harvard because they were
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: making their admission standards more difficult for Asian people than
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: they were for white people, for black people, for everybody else.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: They made Asians more difficult because if they didn't half
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: of their fucking population in their classes would be Asian
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: because they work harder. It's a cultural thing. You know.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I grew up in taekwondo, and I grew up around
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of Koreans, and man, you haven't seen work
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: ethic until you've seen first generation Koreans who come over
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to America, and you know they have those tiger moms
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and tiger dads. That's a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: That is a fuck I guess well.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I mean for these sort of subjects, it's good for
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: getting the trauma and not great. Right, But if we're
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: talking about the workforce or symphony, if it's.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Just a meritocracy, if it's just a meritocracy, it's like
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: who is the best student, Who is the best this,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: who's the best that? Yeah, it's good for that, you know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: but it's like it's the same thing. It's like trying
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: to be a champion. You can only redline for so
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: long before you go fucking crazy. And the lack of
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: balance between pleasure and struggle and discipline and fun. You
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: have to balance if you want to have a good life,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: and ultimately you're supposed to be enjoying your life. I
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: don't think you can truly enjoy your life without some
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: measure of discipline. I think discipline is important. It's the
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: reason why you can enjoy the relaxing moments because you
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: earn them. You have to earn them, and but I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: do think you should have them too. And when I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: was around a lot of Korean guys like my friend Junksick.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I've talked about him before, but he was a national
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: champion when we were kids. He was not as talented
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: as other people. He wasn't as fast, he wasn't he
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: didn't have any unusual genetic gifts that some people had.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: But that motherfucker worked so hard. He was in residency, Okay,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: so he was in medical school while he was on
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the national team. So he would go to school all
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: day and for workouts sometimes he would take all his books,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: put him in his backpack and run upstairs at the school.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Just run upstairs at the university. And that's how you
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: get some of his cardio in. And then he would
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: come to the gym and he would be you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: he'd come to the gym for nighttime training. We'd train
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: at like six o'clock at night, seven o'clock at night,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and he would be he was drained, but he would
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: fucking just dig in and get to it, man. And
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it was just it's that mentality is why Asians do
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: so well in school. It's like this pushing from their parents,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the high pressure. And again I don't think it's so
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: good for you psychologically. I don't do that with my kids.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Kids do very well in school. But they do very
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: well in school because of the example that I and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: my wife said of be a nice person, work really hard,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: have discipline, do the stuff you're supposed to do, don't
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: fuck off, you know, get get the things done that
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. But would they be able to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: compete with some kid who just came over here from China,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: We know why the countries like America so much is
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: because they realize, oh, if I work as hard as
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I can, maybe in wherever they live, yes, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: India or some of these other places. It's not a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: promise that they'll succeed. But they love a capitalistic America
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, yeah, if I put in the work,
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  Speaker 1: and my kids put in the work, and I force
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: my kids to put in the work, it'll work.
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  Speaker 2: of the education system though, because they claim to be
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  Speaker 2: all about diversity. Asians are part of diversity. They're a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: small percentage of the population in America, but they're fucking
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: killing it. So they try to hold them back because
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: it's bullshit. It's a problem because in their mind, Asians
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: don't complain as much. They get to work more. They're
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: not the ones that are out there organizing making signs.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: They're not doing that. They're fucking working. They don't have
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: time to be going to these rallies and cheering and chanting.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: They fucking get to work. So because of that, they're
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: not as represented when it comes to like grievances. So
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: they know you can get away with being racist against them, right,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and you can get away with discriminating against them in
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: higher education universities like Harvard, which is just crazy because
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it shows you're lying. You're not really caring about minorities.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: You're caring about very specific minorities because they give you
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: social clout to represent and to fight for them. Like
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: if you're fighting for black people, if you're fighting for
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: trans people, those are the people that are really noisy, right,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: really loud. And if you're on there, good, if you defend,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you're virtuous. Yeah, exactly, that's what it is. It's performative.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I think about it every week almost. It sounds strange,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: but like it can. These kind of things consume me.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I don't have a wife and kids, you know, like
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I think about these things all day, but like I
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: think about it with like in our in our business,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you know, like there are so many women who complain like, oh,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: no girls on the lineup or only two girls on
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the line and I'm like, yure, there's less of you,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that's all it is. In fact, the fact that there's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: less of you in our industry is why you're able
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to stand out and succeed so much quicker than your
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: male counterparts. So yes, it can feel like a boys
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: club because it is. There's plenty of disadvantages to being
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a female comedian, like putting up with these comedy club owners,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: or working the road, or like it is their fans,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: being creepy with creepy fans, they're different, like one hundred percent,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm sympathetic to the things female comics have to
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: go through, but if they just don't understand the numbers,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's girls in Los Angeles who are regulars
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: at the Improv and the laugh Factory and the Comedy
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Store who have been doing it a few years, and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: then there's guys that I know that have been doing
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it fifteen years who us you know, subjectively are very
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: very funny, and subjectively funnier than them, but at least
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: inarguably funny. And they can't get any spots at these
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: places because we need more women comics, I mean, we
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: need more diverse lineups.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: They've literally said that we have too many white male comics.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I've heard it my whole career. Yeah, I was in
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Boston and there was this long line for this festival
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and all this sudmetle bit not it was to submit,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: like to do audition. They were it was during last
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: comic standing times, so they were doing these things where
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: they liked filming the line and going, look how many
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: people are here to try out for our festival order
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and someone came out and goes, listen, if you're a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: straight white guy, you better be real different. And all
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of us just got because Boston, we're all straight white guys.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And I just remember being like, well, that kind of
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hurt my feelings a little bit, like like what does
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: that imply?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I only know about my circumstances.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Stupid.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I can't have I can't. One time my agent said
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to Miss Timmy, he was talking bragging about one of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: his clients, and he was like, Jeff, listen, man, you
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: know I got this one client. He's handsome, he's his
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: parents are deaf. You know, he's he's black, He's got
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: all these great things that make him very industry interesting
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: for the industry. I think you can have to like
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: reinvent yourself or something. I was like, I can't make
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: things up, Like I don't know what to tell you.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: That I'm a white just Hollywood. Yeah, in Hollywood's influence
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: with the long tentacles of the octopus. But we don't
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: do that in Texas. Like in the Mothership, it's a meritocracy.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: And because it's a meritocracy, it's very diverse. Yeah, you
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: got a lot of women on the lineup, you got
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of all kinds of people. A lot of
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: gay people. And the one thing that people keep saying
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: about the comedy Mothership, Oh it's right wing comedy club.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: The vast majority of common at my club are left wing,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: the vast majority.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I can, I can personally vouch for that. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: there are there are reasonable lefties.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're kind of people who.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Can sit in a room with a comic who doesn't
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: agree with their politics and still just be human.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Like that's a great we should all aspire to that. Yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: that's what we aspire to at that club. Like, we
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: don't tolerate any bullshit ideologically one side or the other.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be about that. It's supposed to
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: be alt the art form. And you know, there's shit.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: A lot of my fucking friends are like far left.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Are you nice? Are you cool? Do
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you have interesting thoughts? Can we have conversations? I'm down
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: with that. But there's this propensity, this thing that people
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: do where they just decide you're you have a different
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: ideology than me, so you're the enemy. And I think
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: that is one of the stupidest things you could do
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: as a human being. It's weak, it's it's simple it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: you're you're doing something that's just too convenient it and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: you're doing it because you know it'll be supported by
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking morons, because we're in a TikTok
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: generation where most people don't have nuanced perspectives on things.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I am a Christian, right, I've been a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Christian since I was in my young twenties. I talk
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: about it in my act, I talk about it in
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: my life. And guess what, I have never once crashed
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: out because of my Seattle comedian friends going on stage
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and calling Christians idiots or racists or fools or dummies.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I've never once gone. I can't share a green room
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: with someone who had espouse that type of hatred towards
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: my faith, right, never once. I've heard every joke about
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: straight white males. I've heard every and I'm nice and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I can get laughs, and I'm pleasant to be around
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: in these comedy clubs.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: But that's why you're doing well.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Right, and I'm now and I am, But you're.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Doing well because you became undeniable. Yeah, And that's the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: real meritocracy aspect of comedy is that if you kill,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: if the audience laughs and people keep coming to see you.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: You have an audience, right, And the one thing that
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: drives a lot of people crazy is they've I've done
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: all the right things. No one can see me.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you forgot the one you might have been doing.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: The got the one thing, be funny. That's it. You
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: fell into all the easy stuff. All the easy stuff
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: is align yourself with the group. All the group. Think
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: all the fucking chant, all the right stuff, say all
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the right things, say things that don't even make sense.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Right, but so that you appear well. That's what I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: saying is that, like can I got pasted at the
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: comedy store multiple comics went to the to the book room.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Was like, he shouldn't be here, dude. He does jokes
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: about gay people, and he does jokes about He goes, yeah, yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I do. Guess what, and they kill and I get
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: laughs and I'm but again, I'm you could still come
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: up to me and talk to me and like, I'm
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I I like everybody. I like trans people.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I have a plenty of gay friends. I I I you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Know, you might have jokes about straight people takes, and
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you are one of them.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that's also fun to be naughty, isn't it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I love women, but I trash them pretty hard in
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: my act, you know. And so the only reason I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: was bringing all that up is that, like I feel
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: like I've never once gone I can't talk to someone
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: because of their stand up comedy. I'm not gonna go
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to the improv and go mary Lynn Riis Skips shouldn't
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: be allowed here because what she said about Charlie Kirk
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and I was offended.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I bet if you had a conversation with her about it,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I had actually a conversation, it would be very reasonable.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because people are people, and we should be able
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: to share these spaces with these people, no matter what
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: we think. I'm not so far right or so far
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Christian that I go I can't be in the same room.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: That's what cult people think.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Also, if you had a conversation with her and confronted
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: her with the reality of what that guy had said
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and some of the conversations that he had with both
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: trans people, people of color are all kinds. He was
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a very kind person. The problem is you don't look
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: kind when there's clips in the Clips show which saying something,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: are you afraid of that? Yeah? Oh, yeah, and you listen.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of a little bit a knock against that
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: because I have so many hours of me talking so
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: dies he yeah, but in a different way where people
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: are listening to me having these three hour conversations. It's like,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to label me to anybody who's
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: paying attention. And it's just the it's also the the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: benefit of having the biggest platform in the world, right, Like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: it's like there's enough people that have seen so many
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: shows that like, I know who that guy is. That's
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: not who that guy is.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I think you're giving them a lot of grace because
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you have to, because like people, are you afraid of AI?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: No, not afraid of AI.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: What I'm afraid of is clips, short context things. Even recently,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I did Howie Mindel's podcast and I got asked for
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the millionth time about the Mark Maron thing, and and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, what, dude, the good part of that
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Mark maren story is that we buried it. I think,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: who knows, it'll rear its head again. I'm sure not
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: with that guy.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: There's no burying anything, I know.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: But like I was like, how about that story? Tell
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that story how we shook hands at the comedy Store,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and we're able to share a stage and share not stage,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: but share the room full of stages, and it just
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: how He's HOWI Mendel's team just posted the thing. So
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you know, all the comments are like Jeff Dogg can't
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: stop talking about Mark Marron again, and like that's what
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, is that Charlie Kirk's guilty of or not
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: guilty of it, but a victim of it. This short,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: real thing that is out of context is not a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: three hour conversation. No one's listening to Trump in long form.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: No one listened to Charlie Kirk in long form. The
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: people that were informed did. But I'm saying the the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: everyday person is kind of just kind of collecting these
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: excerpts and then forming a group think about those excerpts,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and the group think becomes their reality.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: That's very true, and I'm afraid of that.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: For you.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that's true in some ways, but it's also
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: benefits you in some ways too. It's like there's good
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: and bad, Like there's little things that you'll say that
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: are funny that make it clips, and that's good too.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: It's like the thing, like I was talking to Tony
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: about this because we were talking about people that complained
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: about his show and talk about a show, I go, dude,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: they work for you. They don't realize it, but they
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: work for you. They're the publicity arm, the negative publicity
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: arm for the kill Tony show. You don't worry about
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it and don't care. You can't, you know, write a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: book on that. It's teach me how to not care.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: You just got to get to a point where you
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: don't have to care anymore. Like it's not going to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: affect you, you know what I mean. But that's but
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: if you're in that position where I'm in that kind
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: of sort of you're not totally ever in that position,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: but you're much more in that position than the average person.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: It's your duty to not care. It's your duty to
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: set an example and say, look, you're supposed to be
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: when you get to the top. You're not supposed to
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: be mean and like defend it and push everybody down.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to lift everybody up and be what you
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: would hope the guy at the top would be. Be supportive,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: try to help other people's career, is trying to promote them,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: tell everybody how cool they are. Tell everybody how funny
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: they are. Tell everybody good things that you know, instead
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: of complaining all the time, but about everything, find cool
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: shit and inform people about it. Tell people cool shit
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: that you've seen, cool restaurants, you've been to, cool music,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: you've listened to cool people you met. Do that. That's
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: what I try to do, and that that's my I
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: that is my obligation. I think, as in having the
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: top podcast, you have to set an example that's beneficial
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: for not just me, but for everybody. Sure yeah, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: don't care and don't care as much, don't care as
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: much about haters. If you're gonna have haters. The idea
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that you're not gonna have people that hate you is
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: crazy fucking You could get like the one of the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: things that I know from MMA, the greatest fighters, the
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: best guys in their prime, there's gonna be guys coming
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: up that say, he ain't shit, I'll fuck him up,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: I'll take him out in one round. It's there's always
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: that he's got no defense, he's got no chin, he's
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: got no heart. He's good when he's winning. As soon
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: as it gets turned on him, he's gonna fold. There's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: always someone talking and if you live your life constantly
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: responding to those people, it's a waste of that one
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: hundred that one hundred units of attention and focus that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you have. You gotta protect that. Yeah, you gotta guard
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: that one hundred units. Man. Don't let anybody steal your
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: units with a comment on YouTube.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And it's never in real life for me, right, it's
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: never in real life.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Well that's the problem.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I have to open this shit, yeah before I spiral out.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Even in my town of Los Angeles, you know, people
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: know why you have this fucking dump. And then I
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: and then I'm walking around in Sherman Oaks. I've got
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: my coffee, I'm seeing dogs, I'm seeing hot chicks, and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Mike Breeze is like, well.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: What's up, Jeff, Like I've friends with beautiful weather.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah wherever I go, like cause I go to the
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: same spots and I never I talk to everyone, so
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: like I've accumulated all these people who go, oh, we
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: know that committee is the best or whatever, like in
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: my little community. But then I turn on my phone,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah you seemed to so Bombaba DOMI guy, he's a Muslim,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: He's gonna run New York. And then I start going, Yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: what the hell's going on with it?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I think New York is due for a little socialist
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: wake up call. Oh yeah, no, wake up these things
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have five thousand police officers have threatened to resign.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Don't you think New York?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Is that true? Is that true? Find enough that number
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: is true? Because here's the problem with those kind of things.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: It's like right wing people post stuff like that, and
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: you're like, is that real? You know, are they really
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: gonna defund the police? Are they really gonna? You know?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Are you in Texas?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yehah, yeah, like about thirty forty minutes from here.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Nice, you're already locked on it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: No, but I'm shopping for houses on Wednesday.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I got a good lady if you need If you
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: need one, she's the best. I'll have a check.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Who's pretty good. She's like the number one in Arizona.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: She's Arizona's not Texas.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I know, but she has all these contacts so I just.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Know her, okay, So that okay, Well, it's good to
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: be loyal.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she found a bunch of good stuff. Yeah,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: about forty minutes from here.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Well that's good too. Forty minutes from here out like
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Tripping Springs area. It's quiet.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I want.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I want you quiet night here.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I want to go to a lake, you know, be
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: able to lay. I'm kind of in this kind of
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: la thing and this I could be guilty of being
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: a victim of like what I'm absorbing in my algorithm,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: but like Gavin Newsom scares the shit out of me,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I don't want to be a part
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to run the whole country too. It's
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty wild and the.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Fires were quite a wake up call for even if
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you know whatever you believe about the fires, the way
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: it was dealt with was pretty scary.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: It was not competent, that's for sure.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Even the aftermath.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was not competent. The the conversation it's
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: about talking to different developers about doing stuff with the land.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm talkingulators, Like what do you well,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: we'll make as martinality. Like that's kind of what the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: conspiracy people were saying before this stuff happens.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I see when he's doing a little dance in front
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: of burnt houses, like that is are you sociopath? Because
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: that's how sociopaths behave. They're not like totally broken up
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: by the fact that a giant chunk of your city
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: burnt the ground. Did five thousand piece people resign? I
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: don't think they say they threatened to resign. There's no
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: credible evidence of five thousand peace officers resigned. Okay, why
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: don't you say did they threaten to resign?
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I did want to type it in Google and I
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: got the same answers.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. In perplexity, it says did five thousand people resign?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: No what actually happened. Official data and statements from NYPD
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: representatives confirmed there has been no mass walkout. While police
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: union leaders and some critics have warned of potential wave
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: of resignations or feared attrition. See that was the thing.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Social media posts alleging five thousand officers. I didn't see
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: any that said resign. I said I saw something that
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: said are threatening to resign? Go back to where I
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: was reading once have been debunked as rumors or satire.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: NYPD has about thirty three, seven hundred and forty five
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: uniform officers as of late twenty twenty five, with staffing
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: down only slightly from the previous year. So it's like
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: maybe it's one of those things where someone talked to
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: some people and they said, I know a lot of guys.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: A lot of guys are threatening to resign.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's a serious thing to talk about anyways,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: whether it's true or not. On the numbers, like it's
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: not a fun time to be a police officer for
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the last like like pre Black Lives Matter, I knew
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of cops just in my life.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I used to perform once a year for their like
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Christmas thing at the LAPD. Great audience members. You want
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about good audience members, police, military, oh, nurses,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: anyone who deals with real life with very good audience members.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: They could take a joke.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh great at taking jokes. And they need to
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: see the humor in life, you know, like they're like
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: they're looking for a clown to laugh at because they
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: deal with real shit. But that aside, in the last
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: eight years, when cops tell me their cops, it shows
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you know, I'm a pola like and
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's with this embarrassment? Like are you why
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: do you feel like you need to be like an
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: undercover police officer When you're like, whisper it. Yeah, why,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I like cops. I think that they're great. They have
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to go into someone's worst day of their life every day.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Anytime you've ever had to call a cop, it's not
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a great day, it's not a great thing that's happening.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And they have to enter someone's worst day every fifteen
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: minutes or every hour. And I have a tremendous amount
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: of respect for people that do that, and they feel
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: they feel ashamed to be a cop because they've been
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: vaguely blanketed as like oppressors or racist or some sort
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: of power hungry bad guys. And that's probably a little
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: worse in NYPD right now as far as being in
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the city with what's going on. So I imagine there's
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who are threatening the same way.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Whenever someone's president is at the president they want they go,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna move. They make those kind of triple do move.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some people do.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: They're really getting out of it. I respect Rosie Allen
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: for that. Don't you respect that Every celebrity says they're
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: going because now they just can't vote.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: And now that you're living in Ireland.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But at least they said what they were going to
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: do live in England, and then your neighbors in England
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: don't like you either because they're like, yeah, exactly that.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's true, but.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: At least they had to move to a new place
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: in England. Hundreds of celebrities said they would leave and didn't.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, there's always a lot of that. A
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: lot of people said they're going to move to Canada. Great,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: good luck with that.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: But now you're just America light.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Well you're America communists. Now Canada's nuts.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: But now you're like, still reliant on America.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I know, sad that I wanted to look up that
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I just read and put this into perplexity. One out
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: of twenty deaths last year, I read this article that
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: was saying was assisted suicide. That can't be true. That
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: can't be true.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: We'll just see it because a keyo.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Canada has an assisted suicide program, a national assisted suicide program.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, could imagine if there's some corruption in that.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Well, crap, there's corruption in everything, Jeff, everything, every thing.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: This corruption in religion, right, there's corruption in science. There's
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: corruption in medicine, which.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Becomes a great excuse to not be a part of
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: those things. You know, Oh, I won't even question if
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I was, if I have a creator, because there's fouled
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: people in the church. You're like, that's so stupid.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, wow in America Canada. Put let me see
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: this still not in it? Put those show the perplexity.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Look at this. This is crazy. Medical assistance in dying,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: known as made also as known as assisted suicide or euthanasia,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: accounted for approximately four point seven percent of all deaths
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: in Canada.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: That is so crazy.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: How do we get more specific? Like what would be
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: an example of like we'll read into it.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: This proportion is equivalent to about one in twenty deaths
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: across the country. That is so fucking insane. One out
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: of twenty people who die in Canada are getting assisted
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: to a side. How many of those fucking people you
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: could have given mushrooms to? They could have had an
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: eyebogain journey. Maybe they could have fucking done something differently
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: with their life to get them out of depression. How
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: many of them could could have gotten alternative medical treatments
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: that have dealt with their condition? So what are the
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: conditions did you put that in there? Jane?
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Average age of them, is seventy.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Seventy seven old? Yeah, that is old. But however, you
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: know my mom's eighties. She's great, you know, like, what
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: what's going on for you? She doesn't want to like
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: what is it? Are you not just because you're seventy seven?
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Are you not enjoying life?
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Or is it?
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Is it? One out of twenty people are dying of
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: a terminal illness And I am being shortsighted because I'm
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: not thinking they're like going to die soon anyway, they
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: choose to die on their own. Is that the case?
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Track one is natural death is reasonably foreseeable and Track
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: two is not reasonably foreseeable for natural death?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Right, So track two recipients, This is where it gets
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: weird because some of them were chronically obese, some of
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: them were chronically depressed. They were doing it for people
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: that don't really have a disease. So what are the parameters?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Let's let's put this ask a follow up? What do
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: you have to have wrong with you to qualified for
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Made in Canada? Let's just ask that, how do you
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: qualify for me?
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Because if it's just you're depressed, that's scary, that's crazy,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: right and very irresponsible. If you have cancer and they're
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: trying to just like, I'm done with my fight, please
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: help me?
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Is what Track one is that I'm attract two.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Be at least eighteen years old in cape of making
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: health care decisions. Be eligible for publicly funded health service. Okay,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: that's normal, voluntary request, informed consent. Have a serious and
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: incurable illness, disease or disability causing and enduring an intolerable
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: suffering that cannot be alleviated under conditions acceptable to the person.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: But that's the key phrase there. Acceptable to the person
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: is interesting. Be an advanced state of irreversible decline and capability. Okay,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: our people with depression just rite severe. Our people with
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: severe depression eligible for made write that severe depression because
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: you know a lot of people would say that is
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: an incurable disease. Where would we be without the red
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: squiggly line. I don't know how to spell anything.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I can't spell anything ever.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I never have. Jimmy, you're rolling the dice with eligible.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: You're an animal. In Canada, people whose sole underlying medical
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: condition is severe depression or any other mental illness are
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: currently not eligible for medical assistance and dying. This temporary
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: exclusion includes psychiatric conditions like depression and personality disorders. The
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: law excludes eligibility from MAID on the basis of mental
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: illness alone in March seventeen, twenty twenty seven. However, people
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: with mental illnesses may be eligible if they have a grievous, grievous,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: grievous or irremediabile. Well, boy, that's a word. Have you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: ever said that word irremediable? Irremediable. I've never said that
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: word talking about it physical, but I've never even seen
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: that irremediable physical health condition that meets maid's criteria. The
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: government has delayed eligibility expansion for mental illness due to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: concerns around safety and appropriate safeguards. When made for mental
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: illness becomes becomes legal.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: They say it like it will twenty seven March.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's what I'd read. Okay, this was the issue,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: so they were going to Okay. The law excludes eligibility
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: for made on the basis of mental illness alone until
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: March seventeen, twenty twenty seven, So there's a year and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: a few months and then these people are eligible for this.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: As of course, the way five severe depression alone is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: not qualified, so what it seems like is a lot
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: of people that are just not doing well. It's the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: end of their life, and they're like, I'd like to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: go out.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: On my own desk there.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to just walk into a library without
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: forty four and make people clean.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Up, or they go, I'm a financial burden on my family, right,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: or those kind of things. Yeah, when you're an old person,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you feel a little guilt that like, ah, my kids.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: That's true. And also sometimes people like one of their
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: loved ones dies and they don't want to be alone.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: You can't. They've been with this person for forty five years.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: My dad just died, and my mom is not doing
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: great with the She's been with him since she was seventeen.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: It's very hard. My grandfather died one year after my
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: grandmother died, and he was fine up until then, and
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: it was just like the reef was just intolerable.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's feeling a lot of guilt because he was
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: kind of cognitively, I don't know, I don't know how
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to say it politely. He was just kind of not
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: not himself for the last year, and so when he passed,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: my mom did feel a little relief, Like you know, yeah,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of his caretaker, and so then feel guilt
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: about the about the relief, you know, you know, I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: don't want to feel relieved that someone that I'm that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I've known my whole life is gone and then now
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: trying to mourn that. You know, it's very very complicated,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: and it's.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Real hard when someone has dementia or Alzheimer's or anything
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: along those lines.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I have the patience that these people have to work
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: with dementia and those kind of even an eating disorder
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: is you know, you can't really communicate it to the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: person when they have this body dysmorphia or like it's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: something as simple as that. Those people are saints that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: can work with absolutely anybody cognitively or like any kind
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: of like dysphoria, Like that's that's I mean, I those
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: are heroes to me because I don't have the patience
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: for it. I'm very like direct, I'm very like want
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: to have a good time, Like I'm not good at
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: being like how don't you see this?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Apparently some really promising treatments for dementia and Alzheimer's. One
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: of them, one of those dementia Alzheimer's was the supplement
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: of supplementation with selenium, see if they can find what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: that is. That's why I listening to that glanced at
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: quickly and I was like, I've.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Got probably to say this on here. But there's a beautiful,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: great woman named Lydia who I've been hanging out with,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: and her mom was had some sort of dementia or
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: some some something like this, and she gave Their family
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: had a real long debate about what the doctor recommended.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: It was shock therapy, and it worked. Really, it works
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: for now, I guess, like at least like they're all going,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: wait now, she's saying, didn't you just come over last
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: week and we talked to like she's having things like.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, I don't know if I should
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: say it on her because there was a positive outcome
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of the shock therapy.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because someone just sent me a link
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: to a documentary on shock therapy that it was a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: negative thing. Can you believe they're still doing shock therapy?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: And I said, I don't know much about that. Yeah,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the only shock therapy I've ever heard was
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: like you hear about the horror stories? I don't know, right,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: one flew over the cuckoo snacks.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Those are lombooies.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I think that was a shock therapy thing.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I thought those were lombotomies.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Well, it might be.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: It might be those we've all agreed. Although, dude, they
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: were doing them long after they were out. Yeah, because
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: those guys wanted money the like.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I think it was like the year I was born,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: or the year before I was born, they stopped doing them.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I heard all these stories about there would be like
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: people who would still, you know, on the fringes of
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: it because they didn't want to like shut down their practice.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: So they'd be like, hey, you know, we'll still give
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: it to you. He's abortion. And they would be like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: this authoritarian governments not even letting people have lombotomies, but
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: we'll still do it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I'm the doctor that will still do it. Love Bottomy?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Am? I saying? Dude, you know what, Joe for a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: big part of my life. I thought it was Sarah
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Bell's palsy.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: What did you say the movie was shocked there? Yeah,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: it was, it was, and the Sarah Bell's policy.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're watching this game or something, and the guy
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: looked crazy and I go, looks like he's got Sarah
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Bell's palsy. My friend, no one laughed, no one left,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: which is a good comedy note is that if you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: say a thing wrong or it's a false premise of something,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: no one's on board with it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: But if you say it around comedians.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I said around a bunch of people watching football, like,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: it looks like he's got Sarah Bell's palsy. And everyone
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: just looked at me. And then my friend Katie's like,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: did you say Sarah Bell's And I was like, wasn't
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that what it is? She's like cerebral palsy. And I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I've never seen the movie, so I don't know how
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: it ended it because they discovered at the end he
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: had been bottomized.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Right, and the big chief guy was bottomized. That's the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: big the big boy.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so he was the bottomized, but was Jack
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: there and supposedly the bottomizers they.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Were just in a cuckoo house.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but at the end of shock therapy here, right,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: they did shock therapy. But remember at the end he
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: was like totally docile. Maybe they were letting you know,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: he got the bottomized too. Probably they did that forever.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: When did they stop doing the bottomies. Wasn't it like
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: sixty seven? Please love bottomy bottom when they stopped doing
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: the bottomies.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: This is a thing I have.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: What year was it?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I love to talk about. Plenty of things I know
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and don't know about.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: You know, it's final.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one the one doctor did almost all of them?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: What did one third of them?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: That's a lot.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: How many did he do?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: How rich was he? Let's let's what was his network?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: But he had a nice he had a huge Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: One third of his thirty five hundred lobotomies successful and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: four hundred and ninety resulted in fatalities.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, he killed four ninety people success?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Which ones were successful?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: They were perfect?
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Part of that? Mean Billy just drools and the dogs
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: not annoying us with his uh what you know, undiagnosed autism.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Now he's like now he just sits there. It's not successful.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, he doesn't fuck the dog anymore. It's a success.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: That's the guy. Oh that fucking creepy looking psych.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this Christ.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: That's how they did it. They went right through the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: fucking eye, but they went through the nose. They go through.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: They could do both, probably because they always that's.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: The one I knew.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: They do bold ways through the nose, through the fucking eyeball,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: fucking god damn it. And in the end, look he's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: happy thumbs up.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I thought he was going, hell yeah, I'm like I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: feel great.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: You imagine if they just scrambled it a little, so
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it's like you're just on ecstasy all day. We I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: love everybody. I will say.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: The first time I did mushrooms, I was like, because
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: my buddy's like, the cool thing about mushrooms is that
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: you don't want It's not like cocaine or or e
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: or anything. You're not gonna you're not gonna become like
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: addicted to mushrooms. You do not want to do mushrooms
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: every day. And then the second I did mushrooms, I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: was sit in the chair and I like, you guys
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: were wrong, and they're like what I go, I just
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: want to feel like this all the time, Like you
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: lost your mind, Like this is the this is the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: right state of being for me, Like it's the best.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: It should be legal, it's the best drug. It's better
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: at making people better people than anything.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, all they wanted to do and still since then
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: is like let's just talk and connect and like, let's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: let's find a way.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: It'll be nice.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's be good, let's be nice to each other.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: No prize for the Oh wow, not the same doctor,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: but okay, wait, Nobel prize that makes people go ahead
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: and get it right. So they started getting him in
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: thirty five and then forty nine doctor Monese won the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Nobel Prize for it. And so doctor Freeman was the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: guy who did one third of them.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: He made it a ten minute procedure.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Nice in and out. Nice come in, you got an
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: appointment at noon, coming into eleven. Now the kids drooling
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: in the pocket lot at eleven thirty five, it's like
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: a chiropractor.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Just come in, we'll get the Yeah, we'll snap past.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: You'll be at Chipotle in no time.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I keep reading stories about people to get pair lives
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: forever because of chiropractors. Oh really, there's been a ton
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: of those stories.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Do you ever go to them? You're a body guy,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: and that's it.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I don't go to them anymore. I went to them
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: back in the day before I read up on how
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: chiropractors learn. You know, when they say I'm a doctor.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: They don't go to medical school for three seconds.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: That's why I hate all those arguments of authority. You're
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: not a scientist, you're not. It's like, well neither they
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: kind of but.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Like is invented by a magnetic healer who was a
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: kook who learned about it in a seance. He was
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: a complete kook, and then he was killed by his son,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: who was a con man. His son ran him over
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: with a car, and then his son took over the business,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: and that's the and then it got grandfathered in, and
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: he wanted NOBILP, but he got grandfathered in. So but
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. Manipulating the body in a positive way,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: like adjusting you has some benefits. Deep tissue massage has
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of benefits, like manipulating tissue. I get a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: trigger point massage, really painful, but it's very effective. This
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: there's real benefits to it. So there's things that chiropractors
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: do that do have like a real beneficial effect on
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: your body being able to recover. But the claims, at
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: least in the beginning, are nuts. The initial claims is
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: gonna cure leukemia, thyroid cancer, just gonna just your back.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: It's a C four C five. This connection with my pop,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: and then they grab you and yank your neck in
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: this and sometimes people have fucking hemorrhages from these things
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: because they violently yank your neck and a blood vessel pops.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: You have a fucking stroke. And that's not happened just once.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: It's happened a bunch of times.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I grew up playing video games too where and watching
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: all these action movies, you know, and I thought they
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: just twisting a guy's.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Head like, you know, like you kill them.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: You think that's all it took, you know, like I
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: snuck up behind that guy in the video game and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: just that's all I did. You know, Chiropractors, you do
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: it all day.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Do you ever seem to do it to babies?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so crazy. People that are like
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: full on nuts have their babies brought to a chiropractor
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: and the chiropractors adjusting the baby's skull and moving the.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Bab Your parental ideas of like they're all scrapped, like
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to keep it safe, the idea.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Of handing into a kiro believe it. They believe it,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: and so they think they're doing a good thing.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Jamie, am I allowed to ask Jamie to bring things. Yeah,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: fuck it, Jamie, can you bring.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Up some.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Dog chiropractice? And the dogs look at the the chiropractor.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Like what you just do.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: But also I do feel a little bit better. The
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: dog's so sweet about it, like I think I'm good. Actually,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta get the right dogs, pit bulls because they're
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: all strong and ship and so like they'll just adjust it. Yeah.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I've seen like montages of it and it's pretty adorable.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Well, is he gonna do this?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Dogs?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Please don't. Oh no, no, no, no, no no.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: And look at the dog looking up at it.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need to do that to that dog.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessary.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Watch this, look the way he looks at them.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing, like, what studies are they showing
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: where this is all good? That's a Belgium malamwa brother.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. It's I don't. I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: don't know if that does anything. I don't know if
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: that's good. I think if you got your dog a massage,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: it would be really good for them. But I think
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: all that snapping of the popping, like are you loosening
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: it up and making it more mobile? Well, if that's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the case. You can do that with spinal decompression and massage.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I have this thing I've been doing with my friend's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: dogs and they've been loving it.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: I put this thing on my neck. I'm like, don't
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: do that. You can get a bit. I put this
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: thing on my head. It goes underneath my chin. It's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: got like a rope. Yeah, that hangs on my chin
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: up bar and I just I've.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Seen them avertise it because you use it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Oh there you go. Look at this. He's giving his
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: dog a back crack. Oh bro, the camel's if you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: got a dog, is sweet. He's letting you do your nonsense.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: This guy. Dogs just love getting rubbed. That's all it is.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all petting is. Is kind of a massage,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: That's what they love. They love massages. They don't have
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: to put them. They don't. You love massages too, everybody.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: We don't have to ask them about that. They like it.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: If we were like dogs, everybody would just lie down
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: the floor and let people rub them. You come over
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: my house, dude, Marshall will lie down immediately and let
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: you rub them.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing about dogs.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: He assumes you want to rub his belt.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dogs don't go. This guy's probably who do you
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: vote for? No, dog, dogs aren't ever like worried my
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: dog go up to like a homeless dud. Don't care go. Yeah,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: it's like he loves them.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're the best. Bet. We don't deserve them.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: But I don't think they should go to a chiropractor.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: But people that think that you should bring your doctor,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: it's because they believe in the chiropractice. There's a great
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: article called chiropractors or bullshit. Pull that article up. The
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: lady who wrote it was on the podcast and she
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: read the article and I gotter explain it to me. Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: it was back in LA and I was like, oh,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: this is a nutty thing. I thought they were doctors.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: They were Actually I went to one of those ones.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: It's called the joint and you know you can just
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: like you can just walk in and they'll do it.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: And this is I think a lot of it for
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: me was placebo. Like I just thought like, oh, they
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: told me this is good for me, so I'm doing it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: You know. I wasn't having pain or anything.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Eve Detremont is the lady who was on the podcast
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: that wrote this article. But it's it's crazy. It's crazy,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: very direct. When you read the story of how it
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: was invented, you're like, this is nuts because it's one
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: of those things it's just grandfathered in. And if you're
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: allowed to be doctor, like we should be doctors of comedy.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Would I like to be doctor Jeff Jeff MD Dude, Yeah,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: I'm but you're giving people laughter, which is the best medicine. Sure,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: so I think we should get doctors of comedy. Maybe
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: we should do that, like as a mothership, just start
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: handing out doctorates of comedy. That's how you get you
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: get you headline, you do your first theater tour, I'll
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: give you a doctor.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I worked under Ron White and then I got.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: My mentored under Ron White Gladly. Ron White was patient
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: zero here because Ron moved out here before the pandemic.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, he's the reason why I decided to move
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: out here because, uh, you know, Ron and I have
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: been real close forever and knowing him from the comedy store,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: he was always like one of the coolest guys to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: hang out with. He's the best. And so we were
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: hanging out in the back bar and he was telling
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: me he's moving to Texas. What what are you doing?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: You're here, don't go this is nuts. He's like, oh,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: it's the best. He goes, I want to keep my
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: house out here in Beverly Hills, but this fucking place
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: is The food's the best, the people are nice. If
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I want to fly, I'm in the middle. It's three
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: hours here, three hours. And I was like, damn, he's
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: got a good point. So when the shit started getting
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: weird in LA and they were burning cop cars on
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: the freeway, that's when Daddy was like, here, yeah, you know,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: because my kids are little, you know, ten and twelve
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: at the time, the little ones. And I was like,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: this is dangerous. And we all agreed, like it just
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel right. And I don't feel like they're going
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: to open this up. I think this is bullshit. Let's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, you're an actor, exactly right, exactly. I was like, acting,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: but you weren't an actor.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I wasn't interested in doing it anymore. And we were
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: flying a lot of the guests out anyway, and I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: was like, I'll figure it out, I'll do zoom calls.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do this any right, I don't
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: want to live here. I want to live my life.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: I'd be happy making less money and doing it somewhere else,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's not as good.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Have you thought about making other motherships as we did?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: We have.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it. Where we talked about New York,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: We've talked about Vegas, what about Florida, We've talked here's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: the thing to do it? Correct? I mean, this is
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: just like based on what we've done in Austin, right,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: what we did in Austin is a once in a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: lifetime opportunity where we hit every green light, every green
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: light along the way. We we we got in the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: right spot. So like, the only way this club happens.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: First of all is I'm friends with Adam Egot, and
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: I've been friends with Adam Egitt from back when he
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: was he was running the Improv in Tempe, so that's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: when I knew him. I knew him from back then.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: And then he came to California and he started working
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: at the Comedy Store when I had already been banned.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: So I had been banned and I had gone on
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: my seven year exodus, and he came to meet me
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: at the Improv.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: They showed you, by the way, what comedy stop.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: So he came to meet me at the improv. He's like, dude,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: come back. You know I'm there now, I'm the talent coordinator.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: And I thought about it, and then I wound up
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: coming back because of Ari, because you know, Ari Shaffer
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: is one of my closest friends and he was filming
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: his special there and I had known Ari since he
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: was a doorman. I knew him when he was a
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: doorman there, and now he's filming a special. I'm like,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I have to be there.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: I have to be there for him. And I went
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: there a day before just so I could relax because
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: it was weird because I hadn't been there in seven years.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: And you know, it was super friendly, hugged everybody, it
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: was great. And then I saw Ari and Ari killed
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: and the special was awesome and it was just such
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: a It was such a happy moment to see him
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: like accomplish this thing, going from being a doorman to
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: having your own Comedy Central special while he was also
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: doing a show on Comedy Central. This is what he's doing.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: This is not happening. Yeah, I was on that, so
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: it was like I had to come back, so that
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: that was two thousand and four team and becoming really
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: good friends with Adam and knowing him from the improm
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: like knowing him from back in the day and then
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: becoming friends with him when he was the account coordinator.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: We had talked about like what are the problems with
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: running a club? Like what is the problems with like
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: people telling you, oh, you have to have more of
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: this on your show or more of that on your show,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: or you're problematic and people getting mad about this, mad
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: about that. I'm like, it's got to be a meritocracy.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: As much as that bothers some people, the people that
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: bothers they're never good. David Tell's never complaining about diversity,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's like the people that
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: are complaining generally they're mediocre at best. And he was like,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: you're right, I go, but you can't give into them
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of them, and they yell and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: they you know, they make it seem like it's a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: big deal. But the big deals laughs being doing good comedy,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: being having an original idea, being funny. Here's the world
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: through my eyes. This is how I've crafted it for you.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: That's all it is. Everything else is a fucking distraction.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: And we both agreed on that, and so wouldn't the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: comedy start shut down? And then I moved out here.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: There was like a long time where I was like,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, Like do I stop
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: doing comedy now and just do this podcast? Like no
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: one's doing comedy. It was months and months of no comedy,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and then Dave and I started doing shows at Stubs.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: So Dave was like, I want to do a show
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: at Stubbs. Let's do like a residency there. I'm like, fuck, yeah,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: let's do it. So he and I did, like we
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: had done a ton of shows, a bunch of arena
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: shows before the pandemic together, and so the Stubs thing
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: came along and I was like, okay, yeah, let's just
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: do this. All right, we're doing this now. I guess
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: we're doing comedy again. And then we started doing comedy
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: at the Vulcan, and the Vulcan is indoor and it's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: loud and it's rowdy, and it was naughty, like it
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: was crazy that you do in a November twenty twenty
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: indoor show. And so when that was happening. Then everybody
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: started moving here. Then everything got weird and I was like, whoa,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: we got like Tom Segura moved here, Duncan Trussel moved here,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Tony Hinchcliff moved here, Brian Timpsen moved here. I was like, whoa,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: we got a crew here. Derek post And moved here.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Son of Man moved here. I'm like, we got a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: real crew here. And then it just kept escalating. Tim
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Dillon came. It was like over and over and again,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Joe de Rosa came, Shane Hillis came. Its like and
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: so while all this was happening, where all these guys
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: were at least talking about moving there, like it feels
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: better here, like the scene feels more alive because the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: LA was still shut down. And so then Ron White
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: basically like grabbed me by the shoulders one night after
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: he hadn't done stand up in like six months, and
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: he grabs me, whatever the fuck we have to do,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: We're gonna keep doing this. You got to open up
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: a club. I'm like, we're but club, let's go, And
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: then that's how it all started. But we had to
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: hit every light, like Adam had to be out of
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: a job. All the people that we got from the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: comedy store that were great, we brought over a bunch
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: of people. They all had to be out of a job.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: So the comedy store had to be close. Otherwise, why
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: would you leave the comedy store. It's the greatest place
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: on earth. So then it was like everything else had
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: to be closed down. So the comics knew that they
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: could do stand up in Texas, and so well, let's
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: just go to Texas. And it just people decided I
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: like doing stand up more than I like living in
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: La Yeah. And then once they came out here they realized,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I think I like it out here better. It is.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: It's amazing what we've got. Also, my favorite thing about
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: the scene here is the Mothership helps everything around as well.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: So I can't get over every time that I've been here,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: how inviting, how cool. All the young comics are. All
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: these guys who would chew off their arm to get
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: a spot at your club are here for it, and
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: they're here at these other places. They're doing all these
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: other things because they believe in what the Mothership's doing.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And there's all this other stuff. So it has the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: most buzz as far not buzz that's a stupid words.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: It has a.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Feeling, it has like this vibe, it has this aura,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: whereas like that used to be in New York, and
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: that used to be in LA and I don't feel
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: it in those places anymore. I'm actually lucky that I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: can go do the cellar, and I can go do
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: this dand and I can do those things. I can
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: go to the comedy store, I go to the improv
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm at a place where they'll have me. But there's
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: not like a bunch of young guys doing small shows
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: and excited at the idea of even going over to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: the store after their spots. Your club has that.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple things that has an advantage of right.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: One is kill Tony. That's the big advantage, the big
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: advantage of there's a show that's Monday night that is
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: the biggest live comedy show on planet Earth. And you
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: might be able to get on it. And if you've
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: got a tight minute and you could fucking kill, they're
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: gonna ask you back. And if you've got another tight minute,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: oh my god, you might have a fucking career. You
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: might have a fucking career. And that's happened time and
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: time again, Like Cam Patterson is on SNL right now, sir,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: and that came straight out of kill Tony, and you know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: and Cam is super fucking talented, But so is Hans Kim.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: So is a lot of William Montgomery. There's a lot
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: of people coming out of there that do great and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: they have a real career. Now, Ari Maddie has a
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: real career now. It's amazing, Casey Rock, It's an amazing resource.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: So that's the big one is that there's a real pathway.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: And then there's also two nights of open mic night
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: two nights, so we make sure we have plenty of
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: open mic night time. You get to do an open
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: mic night at the best club in the world. And
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: then on top of that, it's like the club is
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: the only club that I know of that was designed
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: not to make money. All I wanted to do is
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: break even. I'm like, I just don't want to lose
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: any money, you know, because it's so much money to
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: make a club and build it in the first place.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: You have to buy a building, you have to hire
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: all these people to fix it and turn it's a
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: lot of money invested. I'm like, I just want to
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: lose a lot of money.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: That's why a lot of owners have terrible reputations because
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: they do all these corner cutting or they do like this.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: They're trying to fuck you over, yeah and so yeah.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: But they're also desperate in a way.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Like these guys.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: They'll you know, I like club owners, but there's a
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: lot of crazy club owners, and there they feel that
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: pressure of like I got to keep this alive. I
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: don't want to keep losing money.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I used to tell comics be nice to club owners
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: because you don't want to be one. You do not
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: want to agree, but still, but you're doing it honorably
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: the way. I'm lucky that I have the other ways
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: of making a living. Right. Most club owners their club
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: owner by definition, that's what they do for a job.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: This is not what I do for a job. This
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: is just I do this for literally to make a
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: comedy environment. So it's the club is set up so
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: the comedians get most of the money, because that's how
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: it should be. People aren't coming to see drinks, right,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: They're coming to see a guy do his art, a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: woman do her art on stage, so that person should
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: get most of the money. And that's how it should be.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: And it should be that way because it's the right
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: way to do it, and because it builds the art form.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: You have more people making money so they don't have
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: to leave as much, they don't have to go out
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: of town as much. They can stay in town and
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: develop and work on new stuff. And there's all these
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: satellite rooms. There's a Sunset Strip that's right down the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: street from us. You could walk there in three minutes.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: That's Red Bands Club's killing creaking. The Keg is an
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: awesome spot. That's where Gillis filmed his first YouTube special.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's a great club. That's another club we
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: did a lot during the pandemic. And then you've got
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: all these other clubs. Cap City is a great fucking
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: club that's just twenty minutes away. They're all there's a
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: bunch of these satellite rooms all around this place that
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: are killing it right now. Because comedy is a fun
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: thing to do it, and you know, and we can
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: do it in a way where it's not connected to
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: fucking Hollywood. It's not connected to movies, it's not connected
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: to TV. It's an art form in and of itself
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: that had been prostituted out for so long that people
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: thought like the golden Goose was be a late night
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: talk show host. That was the Golden Goose, a job
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: that I wouldn't There's no fucking way if they doubled
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: my money, I'd be like, I'm not doing that. I
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: can't do it.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: It's not me right, and it's also not really stand up.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: So many times, like people are like, so do you
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: want to Like are you doing this because of like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: you want to be a movie stars? I was like, no,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it because I love stand up comedy.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I just watched the Starting five of it's called Starting
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: five on Netflix. But they follow NBA players and the
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: annoying part is like their wives and girlfriends. I think
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: that's the annoying part. Like I want to hear them
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: talk about basketball like the thing they live.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: That inspires me because I look at the way I
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: pursue comedy the way they pursue their basketball, you know,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: like their career. So anyways, but what I was inspired
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: by was like Kevin Durant, who I thought I hated
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: my whole life, was awesome. He just wants to play basketball,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: like that's all it is for him. He's like, yeah,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: I'm I just want to go out there and hoop,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: and he keeps going to that thing of like, man,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have these arguments and barbershops about
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: the greatest ever or any of those things. He makes money,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: but it's not about the money for him, and it's
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: not about the chicks. Those are all symptoms of what
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: he pursues. And I love that because I'm like, yeah,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I just love the joke part.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: I love that I can write a.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Bit and then that night try it and people love
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: it or they go what an interesting idea or that's funnier,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: that's naughty, or that I've never thought of it? Like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: that when you know, when you're campaigning on a political
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: trail or whatever, like when you go to like the
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Trump rally or I don't know what Kamala Harris called
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: her thing, but those aren't undecided voters. Those are people
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: who are there because they're already in You're not even
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: talking to anyone who's considering voting for anyone else when
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: you go to a thing like that. But with stand
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: up comedy, when they're in that audience, they're just looking
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: at you and going, hey, bro, bring me some jokes. Yeah,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: And so I can now do jokes about what I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: think and what I believe, and the crowd will listen
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: to me and decide if I'm not funny or funny.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: But you're getting into their ear, You're getting into them going.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I've never thought of it like that. That guy was
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: making some pretty good jokes up there about a subject
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: that I thought I wouldn't hear, you know, Like, it's
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: just like I think comedy is such a gift that way.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: But I was like, I was like, I think I'm
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: like Kevin Durant. I like the girls, and I like
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: the money, and I like, I love all this stuff.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: But for me, I did a spot here I remember
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: it was, and they were like, do we can't thank
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: you enough for coming? And I was like, what are
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: you talking about? Like I get up on any fucking
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: stage and you try to slide me money, I go
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: give it to the other guys, Like I came to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: do this because I was happy you to have me
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: on like I just couldn't.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: That's a great attitude.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much better to help Joseph. Yeah, I
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: don't need to be famous. That would be a good symptom.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: That'd be a great symptom. Of it, but like it
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: also comes with its own problems, you know, all those
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: other stuff.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, all those stuff. But that's the best
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: attitude is just love what you do, love what you do,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: and all this success comes because of it. But the
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: moment you start thinking about the success only and then
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: making decisions based only on getting and containing more success
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: instead of thinking about the thing, yeah, you.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Know, and that's what they do. They seduce you. They
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: want to be in this movie. I want to be
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: those hyenas, like you were saying, attacking as they circle,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: but I don't want to be an actor. And thank
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: you for the opportunity. And I love that you believe
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: you can make some money off me by putting me
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: in that. But for me walking my ass into a
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: place that has a stage in a microphone and being
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: able to be naughty and say anything i'd like and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: make jokes is so exciting to me. If they put
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: a billion dollars in my bank account tomorrow, I'll still
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: go do my spot tonight at the Mothership in fat Man.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: And if tomorrow they said, Jeff, you make zero dollars
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: doing this, might want to find a day job, I'll
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: go Okay, But I'm still doing my spot right, Like,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna do it no matter what.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love it. Yeah, I would do it forever.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: It's the most fun art form. Yeah, you know, and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: the fact that we're fortunate enough to be able to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: do it and make money doing it is incredible. You
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: should be happy. Yeah, if you're complaining, you're missing out.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, I won't say this comics name because you know,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I just don't want any trouble with this guy. But
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: I remember I was at a festival and I'm more
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: criticizing his attitude. On that night. We're in the green
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: room and they were like so excited to have him
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: because he's a very funny guy and very talented, and
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: they said, they go, so, how much time do you
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: want to do? He was like, how much time am
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: I contracted to do? And they were like, oh, well,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: you know, you your books for forty five minutes. But
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I was just letting you know, you're the end of
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: the show and everyone's here. Just used to just do
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: whatever you want. He goes, then I'm doing the forty
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: five minutes, and I remember thinking, the fuck is wrong
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: with you? Like they're they're happy you're here everyone is excited. Yeah,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: just if you tell me that, bro, I'm on stage
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: for two hours forty five minute of it's good. But
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out there, you know, because I like
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: being there. Yeah it's fun boo, it's not. You're not
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: pouring concrete, dude, Like you get to go tell jokes
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: to these people, Like what an exciting job you have?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: That's exciting.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: I think where that comes from is like in the beginning,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: it's like really hard. It's hard to do, it's hard
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: to get paid, it's hard, and then you build up
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: a resentment to the point where even after you make it,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: you take it for granted, and now you think, like,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: what do I have to do forty four minutes? And
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm doing?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Crazy?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you like instead of like, wow, I made it,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: I actually can actually get paid to go do comedy.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Now A good forty five minutes not important, Okay, I'll
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: go fuck around have some fun.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: That's something exactly like. That's so I've worked at Hollywood Video,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: I've worked at any coffee shop that was like I've
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: I've had over like forty different coffee jobs because I
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: just couldn't keep a job, Like I was always living
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: somewhere different, or like pursuing comedy so aggressively that like
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: I just needed a job, so I was good at
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: getting the job, and then I would fuck off or
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: do something stupid and I'd get like let go, or
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: I'd move and just ghost that job. You know, I've
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: had all these jobs, but whether it was Hollywood Video
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: or rock Bottom Brewery, or whether it was any of
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: these million coffee shops I worked at, I was always
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: the fun guy at the job that made friends with
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: everyone and goofed. Because it's more fun to have a
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: good attitude at work and like the job than it
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: is to hate the job. Right because because not because
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: the job was great, but because it's gonna be a
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: better experience here if I like it, if I at
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: least trick myself into liking it, There's nothing. It wasn't
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: my dream to put movies in alphabetical order with dyslexia
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: in a Hollywood.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Video, But.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I want to enjoy my job. Like that was more
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: fun to like be happy to be there. So now
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: we get to do comedy, which is the dream, and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: you're you have that attitude, like I just can't get
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: my mind around that.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: Well, there's some people that think they have to be
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: miserable to be good. There's a weird thing that I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: think some artists feel like they have to kind of
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: suffer in order to be funny, Like they have to
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: be upset, they have to be angry. I used to
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: think that when I was When I was I was
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: really young and dumb. I was thinking that maybe, like
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: I should stop meditating, because if I meditate and achieve
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: any kind of enlightenment, I won't think. I don't think
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: things are so annoying anymore that I could shit on
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: them on stage, which is like a big part of
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: my act.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't want to be happy because.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that was me at twenty one or whatever. Yes.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Well, Jerry Seinfeld, who's one of my favorites ever, despite
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: any of his political beliefs or anything. Things like I
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: really really respect every time Jerry Sandfeld talks on podcasts
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: or interviews or whatever, because he's like Buddha of comedy,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: like the way he talks about work ethic and the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: way he talks about joke writing, the way he's very disciplined.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: He's very good, So I always hanging on everything Jerry
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: says like in those things. I think he's the best
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: look up anytime he's been interviewed. But Jerry, although he's clean, right,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: he's a clean comic. And although he's a husband and
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: a dad, and no matter what he's labeled as he
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: seems to be very at peace in his life and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: very successful and rich, he does have this edge to him.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: There still is like an irritability. And I think that's
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: probably what you were thinking at twenty one, of like
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: I need that, I need to be But you could.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Well, he's also smart and he's talking to morons all
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: the time, and that's how you get an edge like that. Yeah,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: probably doesn't have like a tight crew of cool people
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: that he could just chill with. You get alienated, smarter
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: than kids, right, but you also got you made a
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: billion dollars from sitcom you did in the nineties, You
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: never have to work again for a day in your
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: fucking life. Hundred porsches, you're just collecting porsches. You're bored
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: as fuck. And then Moron's one. You know, my favorite
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: episode was like, I don't fucking caret that. Yeah, I
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear this anymore.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you get that all the time someone wants
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: to tell you a story about a thing, and you go,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm a little more tolerant than him. Yeah,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: but he's I get it. I get why he would
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: be a little prickly, like some of the questions are
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: really fucking stupid. Like, for sure, there was a big
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: racism controversy about his show, Comedians and cars drinking coffee.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Which is what I'm surprised he wasn't. He's not more
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: vocal about that, but he did a great thing, Like
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: he's like.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I speak the language of funny. If
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: you're funny, I don't care what you are, which is
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: the right answer. And a lot of people are like,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: oh that sounds racist. That's a great answer. This is crazy.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: If that's racist, This is you're expecting something that you're
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: not gonna get, which you're expecting people to abandon meritocracy
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: in the most meritocracy based art form. You could say, like,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: you have to have a specific response from people, right
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: if you get a laugh and you're creating it all yourself,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: like there's no talking.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: It's just you.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. And so if it's comedians that you
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: think are funny and they happen to be whatever. It's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: just who's funny as everything else is bullshit? This ideal
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: there's not enough women, there's not enough black people, there's
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: not enough.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: Stop right, stop, yeah, right whatever.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: There's an interview that goes, what do you say to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: the people who criticize that you don't have enough people
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: of color or blah blah blah, And he goes, I
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: don't know, I'm looking at your audience. A lot of
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: whities in here, That's what he said. Oh, it's the
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: best because it's like, it's so true. Look at your
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: friend groups, look at your life. You start running it
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: through everyone's genitals and skin color. You could call every
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: culture racist. I went to my buddies family barbecue. Who's
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: a Polynesian? You know? Pacific islander?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Guy?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Uh? What real diverse family reunion?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Because that's the beauty of a culture is that you
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: kind of have that. The whole point of having a
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: culture is to have some advantages. I can't just wander
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: into your family's thing and go, how come there's no
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: more not any Filipinos here. It's just that's not how
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: it works. I would say that I think I've said
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: a couple of times on stage, but like I wonder
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: if like liberals go to like Japan and they're like,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: this is disgusting. You know, it's all Japanese people here.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: It's not very diverse. I wonder do they go to Russia?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, where is the diversity here? Like
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: if that's not how things work.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: No, there's a lot of countries that are at and
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: it's fine as long as they're black, you know what
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like all black, it's totally fine. But
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: all like Poland's a problem, that's real problem.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: It's insane to me.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: Well, it's people are just weird, you know. And look,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: racism is bad. So because racism is because actual racism
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: is bad. People look for racism all sorts of places
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: and they start deciding that things are racist or you know,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: they could do with a lot of stuff. Like you know,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: we were talking about this the other day. This idea
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: of silence is violence, Like, shut the fuck up, that's crazy.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever punched you? Then yeah, yeah, then you'll go.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Can we go back to the silence? Come to the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: UFC with me. I'll show you what like this is.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: See that's what violence is. Yes, this is wait, this
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: is the sport of it. These are nice people, Like,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: that's actual violence, not fucking words. Sticks definitely not silence.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: never hurt me. And then they start using sticks and stones.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: You go, let's go back to names. I'm happy with names.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: There's less blood when you were calling me names.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're being silly. Silence is not violence, you
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: fucking idiot. That's so dumb. It's silence is just silence.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: You can't pretty nice. But it shows what you want
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: is what you want forced people to comply. You want
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: to force people to say what you want them to say.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: Put that black square on your leverage exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: And it's a bunch of losers. It's usually a bunch
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: of losers at the wheel that bus. Yeah, and they're
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: going right off the cliff and they want to bring
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: you with him, Like, what are you doing?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Not a fun place?
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Not fun?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: That's not the world we live in, yeah, or it's
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: not the universe that comics like to live in at all.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing about all these people pushing all
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: these different things to call everybody an ist or whatever
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: the fuck you are, and how you have a phobia,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. All these people seem to be miserable.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very happy and the same. They're proud of
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: their anger.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Which is odd. Yeah, it's like, find some things to love, Okay,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to love in this world.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Comic went on and kill Tony last night. He was
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: so great and I am remiss that I don't remember
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: his name, and he was able to rattle off which
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's done before. It's probably in his act,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: but he was able to rattle off all his interests.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I'm in you know, Universal Studios. Let's
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: go a monster truck rally. Let's do it. And I
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: was like, I immediately wanted to be friends with this
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: guy because I'm like, that's how I want to live.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: I live, or I mean I do live like that.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, I can identify with this
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: so much. The little kid in me is like, yeah,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, let's go. I go to the Bay
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: Gay Pride barade. I've got a lot of gay friends.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Let's fucking do it. Like like whatever it is, right,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: that's so much better of an attitude, just like let's
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: let's do it all. Let's let's let's jump in these things,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: like that's so much more fun than going we're not
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: going there because of it, and we're not doing that
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: because of this, and this is probably it's like it's
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: too exhausting.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people like being exhausted because it
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: keeps them active. They've got something to think about. It's
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: their sports, yeah it is. You know, politics for a
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: lot of people is their sports. And it's not just
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: their sports. It's like they're fanatical Red Sox fans the religion.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Red Sox to the death, and that's what
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: it is. Like fuck the Yankees, that's all it is.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: But it's the same thing. So the sports one is
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: where I think it's a little different because the Yankees
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: fan doesn't want to murder. The Red Sox fans still
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: like baseball. They break people's legs sometimes, but I'm saying
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: they still like baseball. Yes, they can still agree. Oh
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: we're at the ballpark, you know, we're having a hot
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: dog and it's like fuck you, and you're like, fucking
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: that's fun. You know, it's fine. But like to the
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: people that claim they hate religion the most are acting
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: their politics out like religious zealots.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: Right, They're going, well.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: This is I wouldn't even talk Jimmy Kimmel's wife. I
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: can't even talk to them anymore. I don't think she's
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: what they think.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: She's having a hard time. I'm talking to me. I
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: might be.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: I've watched it a bunch, But so what happened was
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: she said that she was always struggling with it since
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Trump's been in office, but now she doesn't even want
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: to be with these people because it's personal to her
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: that like that. Now she's made the decision to not uh,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like, that's that's where it's a problem struggling
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: with It's fine if family runnys want to have a
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: talk with your aunt who voted for Trump or something,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's healthy and let's talk about it. Because
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: if you're doing any of these things and you can't
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: defend it, you're probably pretty stupid. But when you start going,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: I won't even be associated with that person because of
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, that's a that's a problem.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: Well it doesn't seem smart. Yeah, it doesn't seem healthy,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: you know, if you don't have any room for disagreement.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: But it's also like, the thing between Kimmel and Trump
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: is so dumb.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: It's very dumb.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: It's so dumb. I can't believe. Like, and then he
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: went after what's he went after Jimmy Fallon and Seth
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: Myers as well, right, hyeah losers, Yes, yes, crazy. Now
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: that's so dumb. I I don't understand. I guess no
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: one is around to tell him that.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: He must be in a bubble.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: He's one percent in a bubble. But that's also the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: way he's behaved his whole life, Like that's how he
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: would attack you if he was on The Apprentice. You know,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to do the Celebrity Apprentice.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to do it too, but way after
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: it was good I did. I was supposed to do
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: it with Arnold Swarzenegger.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to do with him with Trump, Yes, okay,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: it was when Fear Factor was returning to NBC. They
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: asked me to do Celebrity Apprentice, and I thought about
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: it when my kids were really young. At the time,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to live in New York and I
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: was like, how long does it take? It takes forever?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: And then also also like that guy's going to be
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: mean to me, and I'm gonna be like, fine, it's
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: not fun. Like that's not gonna be fun. Like I'm
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: not good with that. You know, I'll get real.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: I wonder what your political opinion would be of Trump
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: if you had done Celebrity Apprentice.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: Hmmm. Interesting. I think he always had an understanding of
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: like how the whole political process worked. Like there's an
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: interesting interview of him way back in the day. I
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: think he was talking to Barbara Walters. Maybe it was
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: a really old interview where he was talking about maybe
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: one day running for president. And this was back when
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: he was a Democrat. Yeah, you know, he was a
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: Democrat for all from Queens portion of his life. And
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I think Elon said it best. He's a
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: product of his time, you know. And that's the thing.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: This is an almost eighty year old man who's a
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: real estate guy, who likes to see his name in
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: big gold letters.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Loves America because that's what he always liked.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: I like my name big gold letters, Like everything's big
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: in gold. That's what he genuinely if.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: People knew that about him, they would give him a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: little more grace when he says crazy things because like
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: if you read his book, Like, there was a part
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: where he was like, he's like.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you think he really wrote the book?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: No, but I think I don't think anyone does. Dennis
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Rodman didn't write his book. You know, a guy follow him.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: People write their own book, for sure, but not the majority. Yeah,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: or actually that's not true. The majority of people write
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: there on books. The majority of celebrities have someone follow
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: them and talk to them in coffee shops.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was he was like talking about he say,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: this building is the biggest in New York. It's the best,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: and they were like, it's not even the biggest building
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: in this and he goes, you know what I mean,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like yeah, And if you know that,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: then you kind of like give him a little more
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: grace when he's just saying it's just kind of how
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: he is. He's just right, I'm the best. You know,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he's really the best. It means he's
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: got an attitude of the best.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: You saw the BBC thing, right, what thing he didn't see?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: The thing where BBC got in trouble for editing his speech.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday. I'll just tell you reale briefly.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: So they took a segment of him saying something and
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: then spliced them a segment of him saying something else
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: from fifty three minutes later.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Right the storm of the Capitol, Yes, right from the
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: January sixth, crazy, yeah, which is not journalism, Like that.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: Is not journalism, but like full on lying in propaganda
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: and it's kind of fucking danger.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: And those are the things people watch, That's what I'm saying.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: That shortened bullshit.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, but these people lost their jobs because of it.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: It's a big deal. Yeah. And not only that, but
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: like they're getting hounded by reporters. They're asking them, and
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: that the answers that they have for why they did
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: what they did, it's like crazy they felt. It seems
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: like these people, this is just my opinion, seems like
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: these people felt justified for completely lying because it would
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: lead to an ultimate good. So they lost all journalistic integrity.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: And it is the BBC, which is like the height
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: of journalistic integrity. But that doesn't show the rot of
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: mainstream corporate controlled media, then nothing does, right, because that's
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: pure rot. If at the top of the heap, you
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: got like, in my mind, if like, somebody said something
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: to me and they quoted a source and it was
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: the BBC. I was like, okay, that's like Washington Post,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: that's like New York Times. It's a very official source.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking this must be real. And they turned
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: it into activism, and they turned it into lying, and
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: they did it in front of everybody where you could
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: clearly just listen to the whole thing and know he
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: didn't say that, but it's not how he said it
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, well, and I think I'm sorry that
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I keep harping on this, but that's what AOC are
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: kind of the left I see most guilty of doing.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Is in their brain they go, I know that this
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: is a little like whatever, but it's for our greater good, right,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: So they're they're they're doing that with their own thing. Listen,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm smart enough to know that Charlie Kirk
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: was trying to make a point about blank. But if
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: I twist this a little, it's for the greater good
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: of what I'm trying to do here. And so they
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: justify it to themselves. They say, oh, well, now I
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: know that I might have been a little political politician,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: y here, right, but it's for a greater good and
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: it's vague and it's like, listen, he look, he hates
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: black people.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: That's why Obama disappointed me so much during the I'm
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: a Harris campaign because he did that thing where he said,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: you know that he said that white nationalists are very
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: fine people. Yeah, he said, we have very fine people
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: on both sides. And do you hear the actual quote
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: and the difference between what they're saying he said and
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: what he said. What he said was exact opposite. He said,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about neo Nazis and white nationalists.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't forget the exact wordage he used,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: they should be condemned whatever he said, but along those lines,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: specifically said not those people. I'm talking about people that
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: just didn't want these statues torn down. Yes, that there's
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: very fine people on both sides. You know, some people
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: just like go yeah, I was Roberty Lee's a really
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: bad guy. But it's like this is a part of history.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: It is yeah, this is like this is just reality. Yeah,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: but that using that during Kamalin Harris's campaign, I was like,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. You know what he said, you must know
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: just but why would you sacrifice what's so value is
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: like your stature and your integrity. Why would you sacrifice
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: that for someone who just probably wasn't gonna win anyway?
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I don't know if it's money, or
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: if it's some sort of oath, or if it's intentional whatever,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: but like that stuff's so dangerous. I really like that
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: shortening of like what someone said, taking out of context.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's also the consequences of people going to
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: trial for that Russia Gate stuff, because I think that
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: that Russiagate collusion hoax that they perpetrated on mainstream media
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: for years and a lot of people are really comfortable,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable with even saying it was a hoax. It was
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: a hoax, ladies and gentlemen. It was a hoax, and
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of people coordinated that hoax, and there was
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of people involved. And I think they're super
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: sketched out about Trump being president again and possibly digging
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: into that stuff. And he's doing that now. Yeah, and
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: you're finding real evidence that the people that you would
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: think the intelligence agen you think, what are they here for?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: They here to make America safe and protect us from problems.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: But it seems like they also medal. Yeah, and not
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: just metal, but like completely try to sabotage someone and
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: paint them out in a way that's completely inaccurate, knowingly,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: willingly with taxpayer dollars funding it all for.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: The greater good, for their greater good.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: Bro, I might say, very fine people too if I
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: was doing that. Whatever he's fucking Nazi, he's Hitler, let's
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: say whatever the fuck keep him out office.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's what happened with the in a way,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what happened with like the Epstein list thing.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: I think like the reason you're never gonna see that
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: is because there's just too many powerful people that are
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: in that that are on both sides. It would kind
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: of be a not a collapse, but like a social
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: kind of like collapse of life. Not just that, but
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: both sides. I mean, I don't think there's like that.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna find all liberals went to this island,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna find all conservatives went to this island.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: You're gonna see a list of some of very powerful
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: creeps on everything. So it's like bought this like stalemate
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: of the right and the left, going maybe we just
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: won't do this.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: But it's not just that, it's this ball of yarn
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: of what did they do with the information? What did
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: they if they did compromise you, and they did fly
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: you out to an island, you did have sex with
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: underage girls, what did you do then when you were
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: confronted by the fact that they know this, right, what
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: did you do?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: What decisions were made, What foreign policy decisions were made,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: what financial decisions were made, what money got donated, how
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: much money transferred back and forth to different accounts because
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: of things that happened there. How many huge international decisions
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: were made by people in powerful positions because someone has
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: a video of them doing something very compromising on an island.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad that. I mean, I might be
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: the very rich or anything, but like if something, you know,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: if they try to figure out something on me, this
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: would be their research. They'd be like, all right, we
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: found and Jeff died. He likes a sprite, you know,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: uh uh, he also watches pro like. They they'd have nothing.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: They would just be searching.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: You're not a guy who's trying to run the world. Yeah.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: The thing is everybody who wants to run the world.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be the president. Everybody, they're all fucking
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: they've all done weird shit, they're fucking crazy. And then
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: they get into a position where they have like ultimate
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: power and they're putting fucking masks on fucking each other
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: and that's calling bone.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: It's crazy stuff.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: To me. There's always been these weird secret societies of
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: people that get really wealthy and they do kookie things
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: and they wife.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Swap and yeah, yeah, it's very strange.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: Wow, people lose their fucking minds with any kind of power,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: and you got the kind of power where you're literally
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: like running the government. You're literally running.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Want to do bad stuff, Like it's crazy. Like it's like,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: I guess my brains don't want to run the government.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: I know, But if I just I think to myself,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's crazy that there's this much shit on
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: all these powerful people, Like it's crazy.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: It's not crazy though, because you think, like, what is
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: their pursuit. It's just like very bizarre pursuit because either
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: they really are for the people and they really want
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: to make the world a better place, well then you're
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: not gonna get anything on them because then they're Bernie Sanders, Right,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: you got nothing, You got nothing. You know he might
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: not be effective, but you know you don't have anything
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: on him. He's not going to compromise, he doesn't have to.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: You got nothing on him. Or you got someone who
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: wants to be a leader for some strange reason, and
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: they they're really not that extraordinary, but they're in a
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: really shallow pool of talent, right, Because that's the real
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: truth about running for president or running for governor or
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: running for mayor, is it's a fucking shallow pool of talent.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: Because most people that have any kind of talent talking
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: don't want that job. Right, Why would I want that job?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't want people shoot at me? Why would I
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: want half the country to fucking hate me no matter
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: what I do? Why would I want to get in
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: and find out that this intertwined web of fucking money
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: and power and influence, there's no way to fix it.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: It's going to sit here for four years being a
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: bad guy in a stupid white house like that. Fuck
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: because you took a photo with some So the people
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: that want that are all out of their fucking minds
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: and they're all kooks. They're all Gavin Newsoms they're all
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's and Donald Trump's and they're all kookie people,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: you know. And some of these kookie people will do
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: a better job than other kookie people, but only kookie
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: people want the job, and until that changes, and until
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: not just kookie people want the job, non non kookie
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: people want the job being president, but non kookie people
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: involved in Congress and the Senate and everything, regular rational
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: people that can have real conversations and not try to
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: diminish whoever you're talking to, and every the most reductionist
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: way possible make them out to be a moron because
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: they're on the other side the actual solving of problems
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: without you doing it at the behest of these massive
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: corporations that have been donating to you. So you have
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: to bullshit your way and gaslight people, and you can't
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: be honest about your real opinion. That's the real fucking
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: problem with that whole system. It is absolutely contaminated by
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: both money and the promise of money in the future.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: If you play ball. That's where it gets real weird.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: It's leave government jobs and start working for pharmaceutical drug
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: companies that they were regulating sixteen months ago.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like X or like Twitter. It's like
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: nobody's on there to go. Oh, I'm gonna like try
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: and find some people's ideas. It's all like debate culture.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Like you could put the most simple thing and you
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: have seven hundred people who just want to go but gogle,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Like the goal is to debate and argue and get
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: into like win and dunk on your opponent and make
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: someone say. There's not like nobody, like you said in
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: the beginning, it's like nobody's trying to just go I
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: think I really want to make it fair like that.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: No one's saying that.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: No, what's even more fun is Blue Sky. You ever
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: go to Blue Sky? If you make an account even
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: in your name, you say Jeff did, you'll be banned.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: I bet you'll be banned within twenty minutes. Yes, yeah,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: you're problematic, you're a toxic.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: What is what?
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: You're heterosexal? You're a cist gender male, which is what
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: we already had. I don't know, we don't need to
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: add that. I don't I'm not doing it.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: I thought I got to choose my pronouns. Why do
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: they get to put cyst on me? Cyst on me?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: But if you go there. I saw this one conversation
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: where someone said they were talking about something saying, I'm
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: trying to be zen about it, and then the next
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: person say said, try not to be racist against Asian people.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane. I mean, that's crazy.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: It's whack them all. They just sitting there ready to whack.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: They're just ready for someone to pass up with any
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: micro aggressions, any diversions from the narrative.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: It's so exhausting. I've never heard of this. It's like
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: a liberal kind of like Facebook.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: Or most people bailed on it. So a lot of
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: people like Stephen King, Cidy, I'm going over a blue stry.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: They all decided to go over to Blue Sky because
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Trump let them say whatever they want on Twitter, and
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: they just didn't like the reality of the world. And
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: so they're like, this is bullshit, I'm leaving, and they
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: all come back. They all come back to Twitter because
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: X is more fun exactly. It's it's nuts, but it's
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: way more fun than everybody just calling you racist for everything.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's the current problem with the world. I
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: know that's very vague, but like people just want to
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: win the talk. Nobody wants to have the talk. So
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: it's more about like, well, here's what you haven't thought
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: about this, Like it's it's like it's like why are
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: you talking to anyone? Like that? Like hear them out,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: and then they also have the give them the luxury
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: of being wrong. It's okay to be wrong. I'm wrong
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: all the time, but like, like, the only way I
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: can be right is if I say the wrong thing
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: and I learned. You know, that's that's we should be
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: having conversations, not arguments.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, now you attach that to politics,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: and you literally have to win the arguments because that's
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: what the whole game is. The whole game is like
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: get up in front of all those people and state
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: your claim and diminish the claim of your opponent, and
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: they say it's stupid. Yeah, but they have to do
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: it because they have to get elected because if they
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: don't get elected, then they don't have power. And if
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: they don't have once they get into power, then they
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: have to use that power for their constituents and for
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: the people that help them get into power. So there's
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking needs of these And there's a bill.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: You want to put this in the bill because it's
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: gonna help the oil sector in the bill, it's gonna
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: help chips and whoo, and so of course you're gonna
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: put a mask on and go fuck a guy. You're crazy,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: you're doing a crazy job, you're doing ecstasy, you're hanging
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: out with all these people that run in the world.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Of course, you're sucking dick with a VHS camera somewhere.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm walking around town with a leather mask
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: being walcked by my boyfriend.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: They can't take it anymore. They're living in an insane
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: life where they're producing no value. So there's nothing they're
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: doing where unless they're real. Like, that's when I think
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: about Bernie Sanders, love him or hate him. That's a
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: real guy and he has real beliefs, and he's been
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: steadfast about these real beliefs from the beginning of his career.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: From there's a photo of him that we played, we
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: showed on the podcast of him getting arrested at a
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: civil rights protest. Yeah, in the nineteen sixties. I think
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: it was. He's always been that guy who that's who
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: he is, which just great, Yeah, and we need if
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: you're not that, then what are you doing you're trying
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: to just get ahead. You're trying to win, You're trying
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: to gaslight the best. You're trying to make your way
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: through this weird game where you could be a senator
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: or you could be a governor, and then maybe you
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: could be the president and you have eyes on the throne.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: First thing I'm gonna do is take that tacky, fucking
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: gold leaf off the wall. Trump put gold leaf everywhere.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: He likes gold. Yeah, what's wrong with gold?
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: It looks about his home decor.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: It's the White House. There was people complaining he made
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: the White House look tacky. It looks beautiful.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What Also, who cares? You don't live there. I
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: don't give a shit.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: Well, they just don't want him doing that.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: They don't want him like did he deal with his arm,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: money and stuff? I mean they've always done that. And
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: Taft put a fuck. He invented the hot tub on
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: accident because he was like, that tub won't fit me,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: I'm too fat. Oh really yeah, And then forever like
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: people will go, oh yeah, I didn't Taft even that
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: big fat guy got stuck in a tub And it's
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: not true. He was just a big guy. Made a
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: funny joke and for now, Like now, all these young
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh yeah, taft, the big fat guy
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: they got stuck in a tub.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: It's not true.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: He accidentally made a He just made a modification to
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: the White House and it basically invented a hot tub.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Well, people are also upset that he's making a ballroom.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: You see, he's making this giant ballroom.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: It's it doesn't bother me.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: He found out you're allowed to yeah, and then uh
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: he goes he goes, h what's the deal with permits?
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: They're like, you don't have to get any permits. You're
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: the president. You can just build it.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's amazing as a real estate guy. He's like,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: that's fucking great.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: Right forgot like that. It's like you just gave him
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: the coolest fucking present ever. He can make a beautiful,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: beautiful ballroom. And people are so mad, and they were
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: saying that there's a waste of taxpayer money, but it
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: turns out it's not. He's not all donations.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: I think you looked this up, but I think Obama
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: spent like three hundred and fifty million dollars of taxpayer
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: money making modifications to the White House.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: I think that's true too.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like did you No one cared? And I don't
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: care about that either. I'm not using that as a
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: what about I'm saying I also don't care that Obama
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: did it. I don't give a shit.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: Cand I get a receipt, right, three hundred and fifty
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: million dollars, What did you do?
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: What costs three hundred and fifty million dollars to a
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: house that's already standing? Could you imagine it if you're
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: a construction guy gave you a bill like that, like, yeah,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: I just want to fix it up. Nice, let's do
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: all this and then send me a bill. And you
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: get a bill it's three hundred and fifty million dollars.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: You're like, hey, I need to talk to the foreman here.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: Think about the White House. It's not that big, right,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: it's not that big, dude.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: There's some pretty beautiful houses for one point five and
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: that's a whole house.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: A whole house. Yeah, three hundred and fifty million dollars
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: is so much money. Did you make another house underneath
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: the house? What happened? How did that hear a tunnel
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: to a giant arena that's under the ground.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe the guy gets five hundred grand an hour to
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: do the instruction or something. Because I don't understand.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Doing it at the White House. He needs to get
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: paid more.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: It's like weddings, you need to like they're like, I'd
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: like to buy a cake, and they go, sure, forty dollars,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: and he goes for my wedding five thousand dollars. They
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: just changed the price. What I needed a bunch of flowers,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: You gave me a great rate, but then the second
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: is for a wedding. Those flowers are now like this crazy.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why White House prices. Yeah, because they know
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: it's taxpayer money. But three hundred and fifty million dollars
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: seems like real excessive. I'd like to know what they did,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: didn't one of the was it Nixon or somebody? To
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: make a bowling alley in there?
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: Nice?
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question to president. Is that what they do?
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: Like you're allowed to just you're gonna be there for
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: four years. Put a bowling alley, I think you get to.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true, but somebody put a
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: bowling alley in over a pool or something I read,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: But also I didn't care. I just go sure if
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: I was president, probably make some adjustments.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: He took Biden's photo down and put a picture of
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: the auto pin up.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: Oh I did see that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: if it was real. I have a real struggle with
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: like what I see is real or not?
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: It might not be real. What's fine of if it
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: is real? I think it is real, though, I think
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: that's what I heard. Obama's era project covered renovations. Trump
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: knocked down all.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Tho seventy six.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: Ok three h seventy six million dollar costs to improve
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: the East and West Wings infrastructure. Peck described the project
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: as largely underground utility work. Doesn't do a whole lot
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: of good to have a building that's sort of an
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: image of the free world standing up there and not
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: functioning well, Peck told CNN when questioned about the cost.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: Bloomberg News reported in twenty ten the Obama renovation was
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: the biggest White House upgrade since President Harry Truman was
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: in office forty eight to fifty two. Truman oversaw the
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: White House historic gutting renovation and expansion in response to
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: significant structural issues that at one point resulted in the
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: leg of his daughter Piano breaking through the floor trunk
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: project with the first major exterior change of the White
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: House in eighty three years. Historic preservationists say, you.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: Know, I read that, and I just said, oh my god,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: the leg of his daughter. And then it's the leg
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: of his daughter's piano.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: I read it too.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, just a piano broke.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very deceptive way they've typed that. Just
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: the piano leg. Yeah, yeah, leg piano. One of the
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: piano legs went through the not the.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Daughter, like the daughter's legs.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: Bring her up. You're freaking me out.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: She's not in this store.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: I thought a kid broke her legs panicking and it's
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: just a fucking stupid piano. But that, uh, that building
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: is not that big, so I guess that makes more sense.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: Though they had to do like crazy underground infrastructure ship
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: that probably.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: I would wonder what's under that White House heating, cooling,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: and fire alarm systems that hadn't been updated since nineteen
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: oh two or nineteen thirty four.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, still, I'd like to see a receipt.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: Also feeling ripped off, I used to always say, I
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: don't think that any president ever is at the White
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: House because they go to the White House, but they
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: don't live there, Like.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: You think that they live there?
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: They do their residency.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a tunnel to a different place.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: That there's another building building.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: Because why would you want to put the most powerful
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: person in America in the most famous address in American people, Well,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: it's the Secret Service. You know, we keep them secret.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: Don't give him ideas. It is weird because you know
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: where he sleeps all the time, right, that's crazy.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: You you have more security and anonymity than knowing where
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: someone powerful is. Like, that's crazy. No matter how much
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: security you have, the secret is the best part of it.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: That's why secret service is good. You want a secret address,
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: you want a secret home.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: You want to move him around? Yeah, don't have him
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: at the same spot every night.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: I think the White House is called the famous the
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: most famous address in America. Like they say it's the
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: most famous address.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: It is the most famous, So why would you.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: Put someone so powerful in the most famous Like I
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: just think that, Like even when I was like in
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: high school, I was like, I bet that they I'd
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: like to think that we're not keeping the president in
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: a place that everyone knows.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: About hmmm, yeah, but they do. Ohfully, no one's listening
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: to this, and you gave him an idea.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: I hope not either. Violence is bad. That's the that's
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: the point.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: Do you remember back in the Obama administration when that
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: crazy person broke into the White House?
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got pretty far. Did you have a bit about it?
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lady garden the door without a gun.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: I think that is crazy.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: That's so great. They might have given someone some ideas,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: like I could get pretty far. Bro they got that
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: guy got all the way in. If it wasn't for
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: a off duty Secret Service guy who saw that guy
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: running through the fucking White House and he tackled him.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: He just happened to be there. He wasn't even on duty.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: What did they think, just like, well, no one's yeah, like,
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: well who would do that?
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: That's crazy? Fine, Yeah, it's so crazy. People that have
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: never been around crazy people. They don't know why the
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: bottomy's were done in the first place.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: Back then people were like, e enough of Mike, right,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: we gotta slow Mic down's crack.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: Or you see like like you work at like a
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: homeless place and you go, oh, I kind of get
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: it right, Yeah, you go, yeah, you could kind of go, oh,
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: these people, I don't know, I don't know, you know,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: they've done so much stuff and drugs and the traumas
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: and all that, and you just kind of go. I
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: could see how in the olden times they would go,
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: these people are broken.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: Let's you know, especially if they're not medicated. Like there's
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: out and out like hardcore mental illness involved in most
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: of the homelessness, A large percentage of it at least.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a controversial statement, but it's a one
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: hundred percent.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: Tru Mental illness leads to the drug addiction, drug addition,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: self self medicating, you know, a lot of trauma, a
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: lot of things, a lot of factors. But the answer
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: to that isn't just let them camp.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: Right, let them be in front of your house whacking off,
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: shouting bomb threads like, that's not the ignoring it isn't
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: the solution. Yeah, not talking about it is not the solution.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think lobotomy is the way to go,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: but I don't I don't know.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: I just met like in the thirties they would see
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: that and go, you know, let's put this guy in
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: a room.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: Well, in the thirties, I've had people and there was
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people that were in shanty towns in
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: New York City back during the Depression. The depression was
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: so bad that New York City had like, you know,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: like these little handmade houses like that people had built.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen any of that stuff? See if
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: you can find shanty towns from New York City from
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: the Great Depression. Yeah, man, it must have been so dangerous.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically homeless encampments in the middle of
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: Central Park and there's no jobs. Man, there's no jobs,
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: and there's no fucking depression. That crazy, man, imagine living
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: out there. How dangerous that would be.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: That's downtown Denver right there.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: And that's all because of the motherfucking bankers. That's all
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: because of the bankers. They crashed the stock market.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 2: I was just hearing something really crazy where someone was
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: making a connection between Rockefeller and alcohol, being during Prohibition
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: that one of the competing fuel sources back then was ethanol.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if this is true, but that
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Rockefeller had control of oil and they were
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: using oil to make pharmaceutical drugs. So like most of
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: the drugs that people buy. The reason why they started
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: doing it that way is because Rockefeller, because he had
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: control of oil, and this was saying that he wanted
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: to stop them from people from using ethanol. So he
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: wanted he thought the best way to do that was
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: to make it so that no one could have the
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: ability to produce alcohol. And the best way to do
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: that is to make a ahibition about alcohol. But really,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: it sounds crazy. It says it's a myth computing, So
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: let's see why they say it's a myth. John D.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: Rockefellers often blamed for using prohibition to eliminate ethanol as
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: a competing fuel source to gasoline from his standard oil business.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: But this is a myth. Rockefeller supported the temperance movement
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: primarily for religious and social reasons. Okay, that's the excuse
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: that's publicly stated that he supported alcohol prohibition for religious
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: and social reasons, believing alcohol consumption was harmful and aiming
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: for a more productive workforce. So this is the problem
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: that this is not quotes. This is like someone saying
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: why this guy supported banning alcohol, and not Yes he
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: did work to ban alcohol, and yes he did benefit
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: from it. Because ethanol was taken out. That that is true.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: So ethanol is a fuel was not banned. It's saying
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: explicitly allowing even promoted the use of high proof alcohol
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: for scientific research, fuel, or other lawful industries. During prohibition,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: ethanol as a fuel was not banned. In fact, some industrialists,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: including Rockefeller, dabbled in ethanol fuel production. Henry Ford also
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: pursued ethanol fuel development during this time. Okay, so I
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: take back what I said. So it's not that it
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: was banned, So that doesn't make any sense. Then it
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: would make sense if somehow or another. But could you
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: if you were using ethanol? Though? The thing is like,
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: if you stop people from making their own alcohol, if
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: you make it illegal to make your own alcohol alcohol,
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: you definitely can't make your own fuel, and then you
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: can't use ethanol because you can actually make ethanol with corn.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: That's how they make it. So I could see how
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: you would say, if you wanted to sell more gasoline,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: you would make it so people can't make their own
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: fermentation and you can't make your own alcohol. And one
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: of the best ways to stop people from making their
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: own alcohol would be the prohibition of alcohol. You know
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, yeah, like it doesn't seem that clean
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: to me. That looks like a little squirrelly, Like he
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: supported a prohibition of alcohol because of morals, but yet
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: he was like really involved in a lot of shady
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: shit that seemed like he was very controlled.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: Religious beliefs were sidelined. Yeah. Man.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: It also he had a part in the structuring and
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: the education, so to make people good little factory workers.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: Get them up early, get them, get them to school quickly,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: but before the parents can like give him any sense
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: of how the world really works, and then brainwash them.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: Bring him in, get him in there, and make good
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: workers out of him. He was a big part of
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: that as well. Like that guy had a lot of power.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he'd have been an interesting guy in politics.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: So it's not true that he that ethanol that they
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: prohibited it, but it is true that they kind of
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: eliminated people making their own alcohol. And if you're not
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: if people aren't like making engines from ethanol, because most
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: people are using gas length at the time, it seems
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: like all the materials, Yeah, it would be a good
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: way to stop people from making their own gas, and
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: then you'll sell more gas I.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: Tried to buy something recently, uh, because I had like
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: a chest cuff and they're like, you should get this shit.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: And then I went to the Riot eight or whatever
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: it was, and they're like, oh, that's behind the counter.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: So go up and ask her for she needs my ID.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: She beeps my ID and I go why. She goes, oh,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: because enough of this you could make meth. And I
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: go really, she goes, yeah, So we have to like
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: make sure that the person like that is kind of
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: documented who bought it and how much. Yeah, I think
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: that is something like that. And then I was like,
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: oh shit, and I need a seven hundred of these. Yeah,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: but like I don't even know that. You got to
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: regulate all that kind of stuff.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: You imagine how bad Thata myth wasse assholes that go
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: to the grocery store and just clean up the pharmaceutical aisle.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: That's the sad part about addiction.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: You'll see like these homeless guys drinking mouthwash. You're like,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: how bad has it got that you're just like chugging
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: listerine like in an alley to get drunk. Like that's
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's what it was a really
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: good buzz. I mean, I guarantee it's a good buzz,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: like in your breaths.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: Great. Imagine a Listerine buzz. Imagine a Listerine buzz.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I have tekia. I don't drink anymore,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: but sometimes I would have tequila and that felt like mouthwash.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: You know, you have like a shitty, cheap tequila and
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: you go, you know.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: A large percentage tequila apparently is fake. It's not made
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: with a gave. Really. Yeah, there was a big scandal,
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: funny thing.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: But it's still got people drunk.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, But I think the scandal was
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: that people were saying that it was like real tequila,
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: like legit tequila made from a gave. Yeah, but it wasn't. Ye,
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: It's just just like fucking some shitty alcohol.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some nonsense counts.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: It's tequila, I know. But I mean I guess scammers
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: probably thought like if they were scammers, so who knows
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: who's doing it along the way. Maybe it's the manufacturer,
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: maybe it's the original person. Who knows, But they didn't
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: think someone was gonna check.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of strange. I think about all those
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: kind of things, Like I remember they were doing this
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: big campaign like mcdonald' uses real beef now and like
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: what were they using? Like what do you mean? Like
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: if the Tequilla company would now market like no, this
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: is now real tequila, you'd be like, what were we drinking?
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: This is a proposed class action lawsuit filed in the
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: US District Court for the Eastern District of New York.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: Goes on to allege that both brands failed to meet
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: the regular tory requirements to label themselves as one gave
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: in Mexico and the United States, even though they carry
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: that distinction on their labels. So what are these brands?
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: Click on that link where it says those brands, Oh,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: Casamigos and Don Julio to contain significant amounts of non
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: agave alcohol despite being labeled as one percent of gave.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: Customers named the suit claim that they purchased the products
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: under the assumption that tequilas were made exclusively from blue
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: Weber agave and paid prices reflective of that premium designation.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: Somebody that's cutting the products. Son, that's how it goes,
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: and no one's paying history.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: Repeating itself over over and over. Those ones, those are
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: like I didn't expect it to be something I've heard of.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: But here's the question, who did it?
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: You got to foul that web to go Okay, where
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: did that money come from? Is it that guy? Is
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: it like a manufacturer? Is it someone who's in the plant?
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 2: Is it someone that are they skimping? Are they ripping
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 2: them off?
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: Who did it? Yeah? Who did it?
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: As you know, I mean, if you're.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: An asshole and you're running the distillery and you're like, fuck,
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: those don't real people we have to like and you're like,
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: I know how to make it better. I can make
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: more money, and then they skims. We're gonna need a
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: Hundergrund for it. Only toss Ford greedy, greedy? Yep, who knows?
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: Who knows? It's probably a tangled web of scumbags that
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: we're using the company to make money.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: When I first worked at Giggles Comedy Club, the owner like,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: we didn't really have a green room. We're just kind
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: of in the back wheld like the soda tubes are
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: going from the boxes of syrup and all the bottles
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: of alcore back there, and he had one bottle of
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: every kind of like top chelf liquor. But he would
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: just pour shitty liquor in there, like with funnels, like
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: totally against the law, just like funneling, like the cheapest
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: tequila could get in like the finest tequila bottle, and
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: then when people would people would constantly bring it back
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: like this tastes wrong. He goes You saw me pour
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: it from the bottle of Like yeah, I guess, I
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: don't know, like what, but I watched him do that
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: so many times.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he could charge like this, you know, crazy amount,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: and he's just get the shittiest, cheapest tequila from like
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: Costco or wherever they Heck.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: That's so gross. I know. That's why many people do
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: that all over the world. There's a lot of that
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: going on. There was. There was a great documentary about that.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: It's called Sour Grapes, and it's all about these wine
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: guys that got duped they were buying this wine. There
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: was like Thomas Jefferson's wine, like some dude was making it.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: Some dude in Century City was like making the label
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 2: the bottle of ship. Yeah, he was totally doing that.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: He was mixing a bunch of cheap wine to try
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: to come up with this.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: Flame weird like it's always this was it a big
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: wine guy like yeah, really.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, he he this is how he fucked up.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: He ripped off the Koch Brothers m M to a
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: T big like yeah, and they had they bought some
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: old ass like Thomas Jefferson wine and it wasn't real.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: And then they also had some magnums from a company
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: that never made magnums during that year, during that era.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: And this actual wine guy saw their seller and started
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: put what is this all right? And he says that's
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: this and that he goes, no, no, they don't do that.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: This is not from that. This is fake, and he
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: was like what. And so then they have a lot
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: of resources obviously, so they're like release the house. And
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: then they you know, they caught him. They get enough
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: evidence so that they can raid this guy's house. And
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: so when they raised this guy's house, they find like
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: a whole manufacturing thing. He's got dirt and water, he's
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: rubbing it on the labels. He's like making the labels
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: old and shit, he's reusing old labels from wine that
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: he had bought somewhere else and recirking it and sealing it. Oh,
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: total scumbag. And he sold millions of dollars worth of
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: like fagezy wine to all these dorks that are like
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: these dorks.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're all, oh, I spent this much on this. Yeah.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: It has an essence of tann and there's a woody
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: would he have to taste almost chocolate? Taste of chocolate?
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: I wish who caught him was a sagn like someone
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: who is actually like, no, this tastes like shit, and
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: like I'd be like, oh, it's real.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: Like there there is one in that documentary that these
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: other guys were like sniff and it going this is
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: this is the real stuff? Is the other guy gets it?
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: He goes, no, this is crap? What is this ship?
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: I love that and which is like a huge insult
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: to the other fellows, like I don't and they don't
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: want to say they got duped. No, no, no, this
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: is the best the best grapes during the best year.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: I haven't can't you taste the hint of costco? You
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: don't taste the box on this one taste traded joke.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. What a weird thing. It's a weird thing, man,
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: But it's a fascinating documentary because it shows you what
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: that thing really is. It's like this weird club that
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: they all belong to where they get real nerdy about
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: a flavor that's.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: Not that good, right, it's but you want the finest,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: so you believe best.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: Wine is not as nearly as good as kool aid.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: That's far superior to the best wine ever. Yeah, but
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: it's not exclusive.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: You know, it's kool aid.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: But it's like such a weird thing that some of
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: it is so expensive and so revered that they have
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: auctions for it.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: The autograph world is full of a bunch of bull
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: crap like that, And like if you collect athletes autographs
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm friends with the guys at Icon Autograph
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: and San Diego or whatever, and they're great guys, but
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: like I'll send them a photo of a thing. I'll
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: be like, this is selling at this like you know,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: you know, Hotel Lobby, so they have those, you know,
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: when you walk in, it'll be like a photo of
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift framed and it's just like cut her autograph
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: on it. It's selling for like five thousand dollars or whatever.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: And I send them a thing because the item was
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: so unique that I was like, this is pretty special.
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: It was a baseball autographed by Joe Demaggio and Marilyn
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: Monroe to have both those names like on the baseball.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: It's like this, there's no way this is at a
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: silent auction right now for like a thousand bucks. I
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: send it to my autograph guy and he goes, dude,
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: there's like one of those in the world and it
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: sold it auction for like millions or whatever. So this
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: guy just somebody like you, like the guy you're describing,
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: putting dirt on the thought he could pull one over
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: and probably did. I mean, I didn't go whistle blow
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: or anything.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: But like he definitely does.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: Someone just wrote Joe Tomagio on a baseball and Marilyn
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: Monroe and put it in a fancy case. And you know,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: some schmuck has that right now in his living room
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: telling everybody about this ball.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 3: He book I committed suicide a week after the story
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: of a viral over the summer.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: Oh oh my god. He admits to counterfeiting over three
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars in gear after police raid warehouses,
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: and then he killed himself. The dealer says the scheme
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: grew to be an addiction. Wow.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: What did he Uh, all sorts of fake autographs? Oh yeah,
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: oh my, all sorts of bullshit.
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 2: So of course there's a lot of that.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: Oh did tons of it?
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people repacking things.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Of course, you're always gonna have that. That's wild. Yeah,
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: it's just what I guess.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: People's risk reward is fast Synadian to me too. Like
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: you know about the Chauncey Billips thing, what's that? He's
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: a he was the head coach, he's a Hall of Fame.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: Oh this is the NBA thing, yah, hall of famer,
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: the money scam, and then he's the coach of the
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers. So you have money coming in, you're not desperate,
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: and then you gonna risk your entire reputation. You're gonna
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: risk risk your entire uh you know, bank account by
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: doing gambling and doing all this like dumb shit. I'm like,
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: why would like at that point you think no more risks,
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: Like like, you're pretty good? Why why do corruption? Why
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: have like all this like gambling nonsense? And it makes
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: no sense to me?
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: If my friend does it, who's broke, And it's like, dude,
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: I had to like pull some bullshit, you know, those
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: times are tough. This guy's the head coach for the
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: Portland Trail Blazers. What are you doing.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: I think people get addicted to just pulling things off.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: That's what that one was saying, is that this guy
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: said he was.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, why well, people are nuts, man, Like the
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: gambling addiction is a weird one, man. And I think
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: some of those guys maybe they get a bunch of
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: law and then they want to get it back by
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: rigging a game, you know what I mean, But they
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: want to make it like so they definitely are going
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: to win, and they feel funny that it's like fun
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: to get over you rigged a game. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: There's two baseball players for the Cleveland Indians right now.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 3: Bring up video where you accidentally struck people out in
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 3: these pith Yeah, strike these two players.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: They're never supposed to throw balls, yeah, for five thousand
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: dollars a pitch, which is you know, kind of chump
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 1: change to guys who make thirty million a year. You know,
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: like that's not like that's good money for me, but
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: that's not good money for these guys. And they're like
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: supposed to throw a ball at a certain time or
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: walk a player like they were doing these different things
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: and they caught them.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: You know these guys. So the prop bets thing is
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: the weird one, right, Yeah.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's what makes it weird that like draft
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: kings and all these things are such a big part
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: of sports now.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: Right because there's you're just gonna have organized criminals that
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: get involved in that exploit it. There's a UFC problem
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: right now? Oh really yeah? Yeah, UFC fight. So this
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: was a story. A lot of the UFC has an organization.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know what organization they use. Maybe could find
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: out Jamie that monitors unusual betting activity, right any fight.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: So the moment there's any unusual betting activity, bikes, they
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: contact the UFC. UFC contacts this fighter says, hey, you're
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: the favorite to win this fight. There's a lot of
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: unusual betting activity on you to lose, Like, are you okay?
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: Is everything fine? Are you injured?
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 3: No?
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: No, I'm fine. I'm gonna kill this fucking guy. Okay,
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: has anybody contacted you about this fight?
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: No?
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: So he goes out, loses in the first round, gets
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: submitted real naked choke. Doesn't look good. Immediately, the UFC says,
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: we called the FBI.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: Now, apparently there's an investigation of many fights and there's
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: a web, it seems like, of people that have contacted
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: fighters and said I will give you X amount of
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: dollars if you lose this fight. Yeah, and a bunch
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: of people said no to it and publicly talked about
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: how they said no it, you know, really good fighters
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: and even went on to lose the fight, you know,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: unfortunately and didn't get the money. But we're open about it. Yeah.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 2: So it's one like PATCHI Mix, who was he was
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: bell to or champion, came over to the UFC and
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: he said that someone I think he said, somebody offered
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: him seventy thousand dollars or something like that to lose
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: a fight. Something crazy. I might be wrong if it
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: was him that said that number. It might have been
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: someone else. But so they're offering dudes like a big
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: pile of cash to lose to a fighter that they
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: might have might lose to him anyway, you know, like
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: it's probably a tight matchup anyway. But if you definitely lose,
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: so what do you do? You don't fight as hard,
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: you make mistakes, you do something stupid, you know, you
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: let him take your back, get choked out, and if
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: you're good at defense, you might be able to. As
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: long as you're getting submitted, you know, you're not probably
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: not gonna get hurt that bad, and you'll be able
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: to make an extra seventy grand. And when you might
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: be getting ten thousand to fight right, all of a sudden,
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: you got eighty grand. Don't you allow you with it? Obviously?
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's fucking terrible.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: And it's are you allowed to get bet on yourself
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: to win? Is that a thing?
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: Why no fighters have in the past. Because UFC fighters
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: right now are not capable of betting on the UFC.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's not just the fighters, but the commentators,
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: the coaches, referees, everybody. No one's supposed to be betting
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: on the UFC because there was another betting scandal. And
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: so the other betting scandal was there's this guy who
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: was a active MMA fighter and a really good coach,
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: and he got accused of using this discord server and
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: they were running like a gambling discord server and a
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: bunch of money came in on this dude to lose
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: in the first round, and he went out there and
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: he lost in the first round, and the word was
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: that he was hurt and that it had been expressed
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: to these people bet against him because he's going to
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: lose in the first round and a lot of people
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: made money. So this guy gets investigated. The UFC bans him.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the status of his cases, but
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: they also banned the fighters that were training out of
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 2: that gym. I think some I don't know if this guy,
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: see if this guy who just got in trouble, if
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: he was connected to that gym. The gym is James
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: Krause's Jim.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was like fine with if they want
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: to bet to win.
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: You're like, I love that, right, I love that too.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: The thing is easy when you were talking about like
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: prop bets and stuff like that, losing the first round,
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: you could just definitely lose in the first round and
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: everybody makes one hundred thousand dollars, you know what I mean. Like,
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: some people are gonna take that, especially if a guy
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: is like pretty good, but realistically he's not gonna be
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: a world champion. You know, maybe you're thirty two, maybe
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: you've got a lot of fucking.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're Mike Tyson fighting Jake Paul.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: You might have alimony, you have to pay off. You
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: might have child support, you have to pay off. You're
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: in debt, and that's why you're fighting in the first place.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: And someone comes along and you're out of the hole.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: Now you're gonna get one hundred thousand dollars to throw,
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 2: and they're just gonna bet a ton of loot on you,
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna hope nobody notices. But I guess now
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: people are noticing it, and you can kind of see
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: if someone's not fighting back. And that was the thing
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: about this fight. I got to see it obviously when
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: I knew the controversy. I didn't see it live, so
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't have fresh eyes, you know, I didn't see
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: it live and go guy, why is that guy fighting
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: off the choke so badly?
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of NBA guys. Something some Instagram account
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: is really good. Excuse me, just dry out, dry through it.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: Have a simple water.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 3: I got nothing water, guys. He was we have previously
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 3: coached by James Russ.
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: Say it again, Jams.
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 3: He was previously coached by James Truss.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this guy who allegedly threw this fight was
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: also coached by this guy who was involved in the
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: betting scandal.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: So that's where computers are good. It's kind of all
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: the things where you can find that like, oh this
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 1: is on Like computer's help in that way. For sure.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: That's a tangled web if you're involved with people that
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: are making money gambling and not on the square. So
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: the thing is if you're just gambling on the square,
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: if you just watch a fight like Pereira versus Uncle eliav. Two,
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: when you say, I like Peerra to get that title back,
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna put my money where my
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: mouth is. I'm putting too large, too large on Poeton.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: Let's go that shit. That's totally fine and fun. Yeah,
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: but when it gets to you have a prelim fighter
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: and he's only making ten grand and someone offers him
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get choked in the first round. It's like, Okay,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: I got it, I got it, I got it. And
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: the opponent probably doesn't even know. This guy has to
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to give this guy's back.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Oh, that's kind of funny. He's like leading him.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to give it to him. You have
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: to give it to him, Pete. There's been fights like
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: that there's been fixed fights for sure.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: Has to for sure, has to be, especially in boxing. Oh,
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: it's weird because those boxers are their lives are so tough.
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, well they've always done that throughout history. Guys
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: have taken dives, you know, especially if you weren't connected enough.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: You know, if you were a guy that wasn't with
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: a big time manager, who had a big time lawyer
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: and probably mob tied.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: They all had mob You had to have mob tiz.
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose a fight if the whole mob's gonna
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: kill my wife or something.
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 2: You don't think Rocky Marciano had mob tized for sure.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: If you're the heavyweight champion of the world and you're Italian,
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 2: all the mobsters want to be your friend.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: And your boxer, you know.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: They love that flatlining everybody.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: It's funny to find out how many of these old
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: guys didn't even like the sports. They just liked all
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: the money part of it.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, Marciano talked about it like that, like it was
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: it's just my job. But that guy was the freakiest
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: training person I've ever heard of in boxing, Like the
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: freakiest training regiment. It was crazy, like part of what
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 2: made Marciano so good was that he never got tired
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 2: because he had this insane work ethic. And he lost
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: one fight when he was younger, I think in the
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 2: amateurs because he got tired, and he decided after that
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 2: fight he was never gonna lose a fight ever because
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: he got tired. So he just put himself through this
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: fucking insane routine where he would get up in the
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: morning before any training, he would run ten miles. He
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: would do his training, he would hit the heavy bag
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: for hours, and then he would swim miles in the lake.
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: After training, he would spa one hundred rounds a week.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: He would just get to the point where you know,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: we're talking about red line. Yeah, and he did the
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 2: same thing. He red lined to the point where we
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it anymore. And then he retired undefeated. But
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: does that red line. That kind of thing that he
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: was doing, you can't do forever. And I watched this
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: video about it the other day and I'm like, this
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: is bananas, just to watch that guy's work ethic. And
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: back when nobody had anything, you have no creatine, there's
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: no vitamins.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I think about it? When you say,
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: the red lining thing. And maybe it's just because I'm
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: influenced by his like the videos he posts and the
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: things he does. But every time I know Michael Chandler,
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: and like every time like I see this guy, like
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, you're in Arizona, swing by the gym
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: and he's like throwing the thing again. Like he's just
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: always like in this like he's I'm going to shoot
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: a TV show tomorrow, but I gotta work out it.
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: Like he's always so tremendous discipline, full on.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I seen him going on, I'm taking a
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: month off, or we're going to the pool.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: That's why he's still elite at thirty eight. I believe
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: he's thirty eight now, right, how old is Michael Chandler.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: I believe he's thirty eight. But that's why he's so elite.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: He's never gotten out of shape. Thirty nine, thirty nine
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: because that guy. People don't even know about the wars
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: that he got in with Eddie Alvarez when they were
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 2: at Bellatore was the greatest fights in MMA history, went
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: unseen by a giant chunk of MMA fans because they
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: didn't pay attention to Bellatour right, But this the Eddie
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: Alvarez Michael Chandler fights in Bellatore were nuts.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, not to play a clip of it, I
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: mean nuts, Like from the opening bell to fucking roosters
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: just attacking each other.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: It's so wild.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: Those belitary guys redlining because they just wanted to get
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: to UFC. Like they're still climbing the ladder, they're still
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: in the hunt.
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: Well they were just these guys just redlined their entire career.
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez went on to become a UFC lightweight champion
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: when he beat Hafel dos Angos, huge upset. Eddie Avres
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: is a fucking beast. But these two guys from the
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: opening of the first fucking seconds of the fight. Look,
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: this is the beginning of the fight. Chandler's just throwing
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: himself at him, just sprinting at him. Drops them, Bro
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: drops them again. Look at this. It's crazy. Alvarez survives
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 2: somehow and he fires back. Bro. These fights are nuts.
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 2: The fights I think they had that, I know they
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: definitely had two. I don't think they had three. But
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: in the two fights that they had together were fucking insane.
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, the entire pace of the fight was fought
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 1: He's awesome, dude, and they're really evenly matched. It was
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: a real good Mattress looks a little bigger than him.
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, Dannler's a fucking tank, dude best and he's got
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: crazy wrestler power from the legs, you know. So when
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: he leaps at you, like when he knocked out Dan Hooker,
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: he lunges at you like he's shooting a double and
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: throws a left hook at the same time when he
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 2: knocked out Dan Hooker in his UFC debut, who is
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 2: a really respectable MMA fighter, a very good fighter, but
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: he just got caught. Find that one, Jamie. Find Michael Chandler.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: Ko's Dan Hooker because this was his UFC debut. And again,
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 2: Dan Hooker is like an elite fighter, which is one
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: of the reasons why it was so impressive. And the
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: fight starts out and Chandler does the same fucking this
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: is his first fight in the UFC, the same shit
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: he did in Bellator. He just charges forward. I love it.
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is how he always fights. It's do
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: or die. That's why this guy's lost a ton of times.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: But he's still a huge fan favorite. It's because you
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 2: know you're gonna see this. I mean, he's just throwing
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: a forums. Oh big Chandler, start up a little bit.
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 2: He's just so dangerous man, because everything is one hundred percent.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: It hasn't really landed that. That was just one dude.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: Here comes and look at the big knockout for Michael Chandler.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: Big my hand, Dan's hurt. Oh my god, Bro, that's
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 2: a and then he does a backflip off the top
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: of the cage. Bro, that's a freak due freak athlete.
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: I met him so I was doing a prank show
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: for MTV called Money from Strangers, which was kind of
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: like Impractical Jokers, but way darker, like we were like
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: a lot edgier was before money or before Impractical Junkers.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: And so they'd always send me to like MTV Movie
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: Awards or any kind of those things. And I was like,
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, live in New York. They're gonna send
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: a car. I get to go on a red carpet.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: What I'll drink it.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: I'll make it fun.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: And they happened to be behind me. The Bellotory guys
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: happened to be the next guys in the red Carpet line,
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: and the way the Red Carpet works is no one
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 1: cares about us at all. They're just waiting to get
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 1: like Miley Cyrus or Beyonce or whoever the hell it is,
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: so like we're basically the photos they're taking are just
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: something we're gonna save off the internet because no one
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: gives a shit. They were like all Bellador guys. So
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: people at this Movie Awards don't necessarily care. These guys
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 1: are behind me and they're like, this guy's fun because
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm making all these jokes and like goofing around. And
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: I was already kind of like buzzed up. And so
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: then that Michael Chandler and these two other like Bellotor guys.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: Brogg the Predator, you know who he is. No, he
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: was a Bellotor guy too, a Cleveland guy, big guy.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: He's awesome too. But anyways, these three guys and they
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: were like this is kind of dumb, and I was like, yeah,
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: this shit's kind of gay. I don't want to be here,
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: you know. And then they were like, let's just go drink,
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: and so we just drank and met people and hung
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: out and they're like, want to get subway and we
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: got in a car and got in subway and just
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: hung out with these dudes all night. And I've been
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 1: pals with him ever since.
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: Oh that awesome.
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's like I didn't really know what they did.
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: I just kind of knew that they were like fighter
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 1: guys and so like I thought they were in UFC
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: at that time, and they weren't. They were in the whatever.
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 2: I was paying really well, and Bellatore had a pretty
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: good following for a while. I mean he was doing
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: really well. There was some real elite fighters out of
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 2: Bellator and a lot of guys like they came over
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: to the UFC because they became famous, famous in Beltor
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: like Ben Askern, he came over from Bellatore. He actually
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: did a stint at one FC before he came to
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: UFC eventually. But there's a lot of guys that never
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: came over, you know, unfortunately, like Douglas Lima. Douglas Lima
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 2: at one point, Tom was one of the best weal
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: toweights alive, and you know, he was the Belltoor champion.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: He's like the only guy that's ever knocked out Michael
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: venam Page.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: Do they have like an MMA Hall of Fame?
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's a UFC Hall Fame, and I think there's
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: an MMA one too, maybe the MMA Awards, I don't know.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know there's a UFC Hall of Fame though, Yeah.
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: But that's UFC guys. I know it sucks.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: I know some guys they wait too long in these
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: other organizations, unfortunately. And the reality of the sport is,
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a bunch of different organizations you can
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 2: compete for, and I think if the PFL is paying
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 2: you more money, go to the PFL, do well, whatever
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: you want to do. But if you really want to
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 2: be the world champion, you have to be the UFC champion.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: That's just how it is right now. That's how it's
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 2: like in boxing. If you're the undisputed champion, you have
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: all belts, then you're Terrence Crawford. But if you're like
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 2: a WBA champion, and there's also a WBC champion and
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: an IBF champion, that shit's too confusing to the average person.
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: And for most people, the UFC is for good or
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: for bad, just just a I'm just saying, that's just
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 2: how most people think of it.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: That's how I probably annoyed them that night, because I
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you guys UFC guys and they're like,
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: we're bellator.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't go looking for cotton swabs, you go
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 2: buy Q tips. You look for Q tips. That's what
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 2: it is, you know, just watching pro football. You're watching
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: the fucking NFL. Absolutely, if you're so bored, you're watching
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 2: the FXFL. She start Canadian go, I got to go
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 2: to the gun range or something head what happened to me?
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 2: I gotta do something different. But I feel like that's
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: just for better for worse. It's just how it is.
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: That's how it is in America. We don't have a
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: lot of attention span, and if it's going to be
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: elite fighting, it's gotta be. There's like one organization that
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: we follow. Sorry, yeah, I follow them all. I follow everything.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: I try to pay as much attention to muy Thai
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: as I do to boxing, as I do to wrestling
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: and jiu jitsu tournaments. I try to pay attention to
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 2: everything just because I want to know, like who's coming up,
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: who's good, what's new? What different things are people trying
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: that they've never done before. Holly Holm did wrestling, bro,
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: She's a fucking after. She's the best LA is an athlete.
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: After her fights, Mike wickle John used to like, like,
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: she used to stand on his hands and do a
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 2: backflip after all of her fights.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 2: See if you can find that. It's crazy. She would win.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: And then she was at a place to watch wrestling,
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 1: and then there was something she could sign up for
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: and she's like, fuck it, I'll do it. And they
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: just and they were like really because she's famous, so
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: they were like, well, we'll let you be part of it.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: She goes sure, and she did and she was just
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: like the second he said her name, everyone cheered. It
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: was like not like a huge, grandiose planting. There was
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: no contract, there was no anything. She just did it
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: because like this year she text me about it. I
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: go what, Like, did they go crazy? And she's like no,
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: I mean like it was just fun. It was a
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: fun thing.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 2: I thought, why not, that's the thing. We'll show that
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 2: again watch. Yeah, so cool. That was the thing they
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: would do after all her fights. But she had a
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: fucking back muscle. Son, that's crazy.
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what she said, she said. The guy like her manager,
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 1: whoever she asked about it briefly, was like he was like, well,
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 1: what if you get hurt and her this is great.
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, but what if I win? And I
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: was like, what a great response, and he was like,
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: fuck it, let her do it, and so she did
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: it and I was like, that is the coolest things.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 2: What a mentality, Multi sport, social arts champion, she's the best.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: She was just champion in kickboxing, you know, she had
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 2: champion in boxing, women's boxing, and MMA. She did the
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: full trifecta. Yeah, she's kind of crazy and she's a
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 2: really nice lady too.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: That's what I like about her.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's cool heart.
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of fighters. I named all
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: the fighters I know, Michael Chandler and Holly Holm.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 2: That Holly Home fight with Ronda Rowsey was nuts. That
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 2: was in Australia. It was a huge crowd, like a
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: massive arena, man, And when she landed that head kick
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 2: and you realize that Ronda was out and then she's
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 2: hammer fisted. Yeah, it just didn't even. It was like
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 2: when Mike Tyson got beat Remember when Mike Tyson, you
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: were too young, But when I was a kid, mister Douglas,
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 2: when Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, I saw it. I heard
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: about it. I didn't watch it. I saw a tape
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: of it, and I still thought he was gonna get
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: up the outcome, I was like, he gets up, Yeah,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: there's no way. There's no way.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: Now. I remember that for sure, because Mike Tyson was
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: larger than life like and he was so like one
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: of those celebrities that like you knew everything he was doing.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: He stars shined really brightly. Back then, there was like
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. You knew Michael Jordan, you knew Michael Jackson.
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 2: You knew that they would go out. Yeah, they would
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 2: go to places and people. Big deal. Yeah, Mike Tyson.
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 1: I remember being in the Kingdom watching a baseball game.
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: It was the same night I was a little boy,
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 1: and they put on the screen that Mike Tyson was
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 1: disqualified for biting Evander Holyfield's ear, and the whole stadium
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 1: reacted like, I mean, like they didn't interrupt a baseball game,
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 1: but they put it up there because the news was
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 1: so large, Like it was a very big deal.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: Bro, he'd been him twice. That was crazy. I watched
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 2: the first fight today. I watched the first Evander Holyfield.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 1: Watch it today.
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 2: I just felt like watching it. I love that I
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: do that. Like when I'm in the gym, I'll pick
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: like an old fight, I'll put it on. And I
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 2: put on that fight. I was like, wow, that was
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 2: a crazy fight.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 1: I can't work out unless David Goggins is calling me
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: a pussy on my headset. That's all I listen. You
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: don't know me, son, dude, it's the best. Like every
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 1: time I'm I was at Equadox this morning, I had
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 1: David Goggins in my just going, you're a piece of shit.
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: You can do better, Jeff, you can be bigger.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 2: Goggins is the best.
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I listened to. Are those kind of like
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: YouTube things where they compile you know, it's like just
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: all motivation stuff with music over.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: You don't seem like you guy who needs motivation, don't
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: do it for fun.
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: I like it, yeah, and it keeps me in the mindset.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 1: I always channel all of it back to like stand
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: up comedy, you know, because like I'm working towards something,
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: I'm in the haunt. I'm climbing and so like they
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: could be talking about a battle in war and I'm
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: still like, yep, that's what I'm what's next. I'm gonna yeah,
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm climbing, you know, I'm still hungry.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fun time. It's a fun thing to do. Yeah,
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 2: you know the fact that you get to do it.
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 1: And also like otherwise i'd just sleep till noon or
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: sleep till one, you know. But like if I have that,
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I gotta get up and write or
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 1: I got to get up.
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 2: And you know, here's the question. You you're doing this obviously,
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: and you're doing this for the love of the thing.
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 2: And you said that if you didn't need money, and
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 2: you didn't even get paid money, you would still do it.
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 2: And I think the same way. I would do it too.
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 2: But what do you think about the idea of universal
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 2: basic income, because this is something that is being discussed
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 2: with automation and with AI, and we were having a
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 2: conversation about the other day with Elon and he was
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 2: saying that he thinks that AI can generate so much
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 2: productivity that you could have universal high income. And then
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 2: I went, wait, okay, am I are we married to
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 2: this idea that everything that you do in life you
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: have to be doing just for money, because that's what
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 2: it is. Now. If you're a professional, you're doing it
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 2: for money. If you're a professional podcast or if you're
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 2: a race car driver, you're doing it for money. Right,
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 2: Why are we married to that? And if you didn't
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: need money and no one needed money, would you just
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: find a thing you love to do? And would we
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 2: be able to rewire our brains and still have some
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 2: feeling of value and of identity and without being attached
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 2: to an occupation, Like isn't it possible that we've just
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 2: tricked ourselves into thinking that the only way to live
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 2: is to live in a way where everything you're doing,
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 2: you're doing is for money. And then if it's just
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 2: everybody does their best at things and enough money is
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 2: generated so that basically everybody has like what he was saying,
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 2: a universal high income? What does that mean? Like is
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 2: that a feasible thing?
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: What is AI going to do with production? What is
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: AI going to do with automation resource extraction? How much
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 2: money is going to be generated that you're going to
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 2: be able to literally have the entire population of the
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 2: country under universal high income? Is that even possible? And
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 2: if it is, what happens to people's desire? What happens
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 2: to their dreams? Do they just find a thing like
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 2: you and I have and do that and not care
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 2: about money and really be into the thing. Can't that
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 2: be taught if it's taught to you, if you figured
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 2: it out, and I figured it out. If people have
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 2: figured it out, they figured out, like, find it thing
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: you love and you're never gonna work again because you're
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 2: gonna love doing it, whether it's building cars or painting
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 2: or carpentry. If you really fucking love doing it, you
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: do it because you love it. Wouldn't that be a
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 2: better way to live? I know, I know you can't
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 2: I no, no, no, no, no, I no, no, no.
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't work. There's too much money in the stock market.
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 2: I get it. I get it wouldn't work. But as
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 2: a thought experiment, wouldn't that be a way that's possible
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 2: for people to live? If it's possible for you to
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 2: live that way, if it's possible for me to live
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 2: that way, if it's possible to find enough people that
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 2: are willing to do and love to do all the
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 2: things that we need to keep a society running.
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: I think the point of life, in my opinion, is meaning.
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 2: You know, so you associate whatever.
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: That means to you, right, So, like a lot of
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 1: people find meaning in being a mom or a dad
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: that gives them enough that gives they have that meaning
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 1: or they have they have a hammer to hold on
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 1: to like that, like that, they need that meaning, right,
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: I need comedy. Like That's why when my brain broke
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: during COVID is because I didn't have comedy. I didn't
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: have an outlet.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 2: Howative did you go without doing any comedy?
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: I mean realistically, I only went a few days because
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 1: I was doing like zooms and I was doing like
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: underground things for rich guys. I like I was the
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: first comic. Me and Brad Williams were the first comics
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 1: to go work in a comedy club with the new
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 1: COVID restrictions, because they knew if they called me or Brad,
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 1: we'd say yes, like like I like Keith Stubbs called
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 1: me from Salt Lake goes we're thinking about doing a
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 1: show with all the restrictions and just see if the
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: if the government shuts us down, would you be willing
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 1: to comment? I was like yes. I didn't even talk
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 1: about price. I just go yes, like I because I
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: need it.
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 1: Why do I need it? Because that's where I personally
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 1: find my meaning now if I maybe was at home
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 1: and going, man, I'm getting a lot more time with
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 1: my kids, and I'm getting a lot more time with
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: my wife, and like, things are pretty productive around here.
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: That's where I would have put my meaning, you know,
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 1: I think like and it's just where we put it.
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 1: It's where we kind of put it. And I think
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 1: so a lot of people find a lot of value
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: in their jobs that make them the money, but that's
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 1: that gives them something to do, don't you think.
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do think that, but what you're saying about
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 2: So if you're just trying to what you're saying about
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 2: finding meaning and having a family or finding me, yes,
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 2: for sure. But also I think the human mind needs activities,
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 2: and I don't think it's just raising children only. I
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 2: think you should probably have things that you love to
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 2: do as well, just for your own sanity. But if
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 2: you didn't have to worry about money, you'd still be
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 2: involved in this pursuit of stand up comedy because you
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 2: love it all the stuff that people do just for money,
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 2: Like the guy who does the fucking septic tanks. That
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 2: guy's not having a good time. He's smelling other people's
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 2: shit all day. He's pumping out other people's shit all day.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 2: That can't be fun, right. We need them, We need
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 2: them until the robots come and then you don't need them.
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 2: So this is the point, Like, what does that guy
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 2: do to find some sort of meaning? He's probably not
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 2: finding meaning in pulling shit out of people's ground. He's
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 2: probably would like to do something different.
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean I'm
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 1: so naive that I'm like, no, that guy should be
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 1: proud of himself, like like I'm really I look at
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 1: plumbers like heroes, Like I'm like, dude, the guy that
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 1: like fixed the electrical in my house, I'm like, I
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 1: love you, dude, Like whatever I can pay you. Bro.
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 2: I had a septic problem my house once when one
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 2: of my houses in California, when I first moved there,
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 2: and it was so nasty. When I would flush the toilet,
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 2: the bathtub would fill up, and I was like, what
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 2: is this?
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 1: Those are lengthd Yeah.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 2: Well what it was was the septic system. There's a pump.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 2: I was living on a hill, and the pump would
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 2: pump it up the hill the poop water, and then
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 2: the pump broke and so they had to get in
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 2: there and get the pump out in the poop water
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 2: and put it new and.
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 1: Star and that guy's my arrow.
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 2: Like that guy.
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 1: We need that guy.
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 2: That's a bud like commercial I love you, so I
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 2: like cops like what you.
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 1: Were saying earlier. But the military, the nurse was like, they're.
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 2: Going to send a robot to fix your pump. A robot, people,
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 2: A robot's going to do it, and it's going to
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 2: do it perfectly with AI and you're not going to
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 2: need a person to get covered in chit water. And
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 2: that guy's going to get a lot of money just
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: to sit at home. But then what does he do? Right?
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, Yeah, because I think a lot of
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to happen really quickly. And this is something
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 2: that Andrew Yang was talking about years ago, and it
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 2: was sort of I agree. I agreed with him, but
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 2: it was a little abstract then. And now this was
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 2: way back. Was that twenty twenty when Andrew Yang was
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 2: running for president.
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of Andrew Yang.
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 2: You don't know what's up. Was it twenty sixteen, it
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 2: might have been twenty sixteen. You never heard of Adreyanne.
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 2: Brilliant guy and had a very good point twenty twenty.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: He had a brilliance. I didn't think it was that
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 2: long ago. A great point about automation in that one
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 2: day automation is going to remove a lot of jobs
• 2:49:03
  Speaker 2: and including drivers right like you're seeing it with these
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 2: weav os these Yeah, so there's that is like that's
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 2: the first that's the first sounds. That's the first shot
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 2: fired across the bow of a crazy war where the
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: robots are gonna take all our jobs. Because that is
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 2: now you have these Tesla trucks that are automated and
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 2: they can you know, like my car, my Tesla, I
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 2: just press a button. It does all the driving, it
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 2: does everything. I don't have to do shit. I can
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 2: literally just sit there with my hands on the wheel
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 2: and barely pay attention if I wanted to. I don't
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 1: I never do it either. I have it and I
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: don't do it.
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's nuts. So that's going to be the
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 2: future and there's gonna be no driving jobs and okay,
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 2: and then what about everything else, Well, everything else, manufacturing
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 2: is it's out the window. Robots are gonna do it
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 2: twenty four hours a day. They're gonna be more efficient,
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 2: No unions, no healthcare, no need for nothing. They're never
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 2: going to fuck up. Everything's gonna be categorized. They have
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 2: sets these these uh mining operations in China where everything's automated.
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 2: There's no people working at all. The trucks are driving,
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 2: they're getting recharged, they're fucking picking up the cold, they're
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 2: moving the cold, they're bringing it somewhere else. It's all automated.
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 2: It's bananas, man. So that's just a massive eration or
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 2: erasing of jobs. They're just gonna go away.
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 1: Well the dot com did that, Yeah, but I think.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 2: This is way bigger, dude, I think this is way bigger.
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 2: I think this happens and first everybody's like, oh this sucks,
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh my god, this is it's
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 2: not stopping. It's not stopping. It's taking over everything. It's
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 2: gonna be all jobs. There's gonna be no more need
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 2: for lawyers, no more accountants, no more coders, like, all
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 2: that stuff's gonna be done with AI. It's gonna get
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 2: so weird if you're going to college right now, because
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 2: you could be going to college for something that's absolutely
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 2: obsolete in three years.
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, well but so I get that problem. But
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 1: someone's introducing an idea that they just give money to
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 1: people for free, so they don't because of this.
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. If that becomes something that controls everything,
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 2: which is really ultimately what it's probably going to do,
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 2: controls all of our power grid, all of our waste
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 2: management resources, everything, it's going to control everything. It's going
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 2: to generate insane amounts of wealth. But the question is like,
• 2:51:24
  Speaker 2: how does it even get distributed?
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: How does that part?
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 2: How does that work? Who's got the money? If you're
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 2: just giving people money and then then what they know?
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 1: Everyone's a trust fund kid in a way. You know,
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 1: they don't know anything. They just sit around and eat
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 1: and what do you what do you.
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 2: Get people involved with to occupy their time?
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 2: Do you encourage them to join religious groups? Do you
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 2: get them to be involved in games? Do we try
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 2: to give people meaning we are we all just going
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 2: to sit around and wait for the robots to just
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 2: take over and we're going to be the last civilization
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 2: of real people.
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 1: One hundred years from nothing to be like, I think
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: I want to do what the robots do. And people
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: were like, what you know, in the old times, you know,
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 1: people would actually have to do and then that maybe
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 1: there'd be like a movement of that.
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 2: You know, dude, the Terminator was accurate. Yeah, oddly accurate.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 2: Remember you remember the first time he saw that movie,
• 2:52:17
  Speaker 2: like this will never happen.
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you a funny story, but that terminator. I
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 1: was on mushrooms with my buddy Randy, and he forgot
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 1: that he was at a long distance girlfriend. He forgot
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 1: that he was gonna call her. So we just ate,
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 1: you know, four grams of mushrooms. I get big, like
• 2:52:34
  Speaker 1: we just crushed them. Right, it was covid, you know,
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 1: and we got nowhere to be is the point. So
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 1: we just we're going full journey, you know, We're gonna
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 1: do a bunch and we eat them or sitting there
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: and then he he goes, all right, I forgot it's
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 1: gonna call Rachel, And I'm like, all right, But it
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 1: starts to kick in a little bit. He left terminator
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 1: on and then his gay roommate is like on a
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 1: first date in the kitchen. So there's two like cute
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 1: guys like flirting with each other, and one of them
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 1: barely knows me, and the other one doesn't know anybody
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: in the apartment, and I'm just sitting there watching Terminator
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 1: and like he can't be killed, you know, terminated. He's
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 1: like the bullets are just going through him, and then
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 1: the metal just kind of starts forming again, and I'm
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 1: just sitting there. I don't know if I was there
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: for twenty minutes, I don't know if I was there
• 2:53:14
  Speaker 1: for seven hours. And I'm just freaking the fuck out,
• 2:53:18
  Speaker 1: going God, damn, you can't kill these terminators. And these
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 1: gay guys keep looking at me, and I don't know
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 1: what Randy's doing. I thought he just abandoned to me. Forever.
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 1: I had like I can't even watch Terminator the same anymore. Luckily,
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 1: he came down and goes, all right, let's go to
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 1: the roof, and I was, thank god you're here. I
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 1: went up there and talked about it all, but like
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 1: I was freaking the fuck. How long was he on
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 1: the phone for, don't know, I'm gonna guess fifteen twenty minutes,
• 2:53:39
  Speaker 1: but forever, Oh, it seems so long. And I'm just
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 1: sitting there overthinking everything. And then also the Terminator like
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: just seemed like so pointless. I'm like, why you can't
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: kill it? Just just surrender you know, you can't shoot
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 1: through this thing.
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 2: Well, didn't it come back eventually and become a good
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 2: guy in the later movies.
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know which version of the Terminator was watching,
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 1: Like it was T two or T three or whatever,
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 1: but it was how.
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 2: Many have there been? I don't know how many. It
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't for curious or Terminators. Wow, Fast and Furious.
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 3: Pearce didn't also become a TV show, I don't think.
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw the New Predator and it fucking rules.
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 2: Terminator became a TV show? Yeah? When?
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 3: Uh no, really Predator Sarah Connor Chronicles.
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen the New Predator rules two thousand
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 2: and eight.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 1: Huh, I didn't watch it. That was ridiculously watched the thing.
• 2:54:33
  Speaker 3: They made a lot. They went down the rabbit hole
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 3: a terminator. But there's about probably like six movies now.
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 1: I think I was watching like T two or T
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 1: three three Salvation.
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  Speaker 2: Six of them, you know the last ones that just
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 2: just try to wring that towel out and gets a
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 2: couple more drops of blood. Have you ever seen the
• 2:54:51
  Speaker 2: Leprechaun movies?
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, dude, After a while they're just like lepren goes
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 1: to space, lepreconn in the hood, Like it was just
• 2:54:59
  Speaker 1: literally put the Leprechaun in some setting.
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 2: It's funny, is that one caught something's catch and they
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 2: become like cult classics. The Leprechawn movies were cult classics.
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 2: Very good. Yeah, the troll movie. You ever see the
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 2: troll movie?
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 1: I saw Troll two, which is like the worst film
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 1: that's ever been made. Have you seen that?
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 2: Which there's no Troll one.
• 2:55:17
  Speaker 1: They just made Troll two.
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 2: It's so bad.
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 1: It's phenomenal, Like it's absolutely the best, the best watch.
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 1: If you watch Troll Too, you'll watch the first scene
• 2:55:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and you'll go, oh, he's the worst actor
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And then the next
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 1: person will come in the scene you go, oh, no,
• 2:55:32
  Speaker 1: she's the worst actor. And it just keeps going. Everyone
• 2:55:36
  Speaker 1: is worse than the next person.
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 2: Oh god, so bad.
• 2:55:39
  Speaker 3: I think they remade Troll two and it's coming on
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 3: Netflix a week.
• 2:55:42
  Speaker 1: You're kidding.
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 3: I just google Troll two and there's a trailer for
• 2:55:45
  Speaker 3: a movie coming out the time.
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 1: They made a documentary about it called the best worst movie.
• 2:55:49
  Speaker 1: Oh no, this is different. Yeah, these are pretty awesome.
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 2: Troll too. I don't know what the fuck it came
• 2:55:56
  Speaker 2: to that. Yeah, but the tail or something, it's got
• 2:56:00
  Speaker 2: a tail. It is weird that he doesn't have a dick, though,
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 2: was like, why does he conveniently have like animal skins
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 2: over his dick?
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety was another one came out.
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that so I would imagine you wouldn't would be
• 2:56:11
  Speaker 2: totally comfortable being naked.
• 2:56:13
  Speaker 1: Just who cares?
• 2:56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not modest, you know, why are you going
• 2:56:15
  Speaker 2: to cover your giant dick, your giant bullet off while
• 2:56:18
  Speaker 2: you kill people? Swing and while you're stomping on people.
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 2: The last thing I did to see that helmet dropping
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 2: down is that's.
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 1: Why you lost your house. Look at the size of
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 1: my cock.
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is ridiculous. Why would he be vain or
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 2: why would he be modest? You know what it's supposed
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 2: to be really good? Looks really good? Is that new Frankenstein?
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 1: The GAMEO detO? Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that.
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 2: But you don't like the Predator movies, they're good. I
• 2:56:42
  Speaker 2: liked the Prey one.
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 1: That pretty good.
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 2: That was a good one. Yeah, fun, you know the
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 2: Command A lot of Indians dying in that, you know, Yeah,
• 2:56:49
  Speaker 2: it was kind of crazy that one felt with this one.
• 2:56:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil anything, but they definitely stray
• 2:56:56
  Speaker 1: from the rules of being a predator.
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 2: But it's so good. Is really good.
• 2:57:01
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. Oh it's the one where is
• 2:57:04
  Speaker 2: she a robot?
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 1: She's a robot, which also makes it more realistic that
• 2:57:08
  Speaker 1: she's so like able to do everything. Anytime I would
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 1: start to feel sexist, like, oh my gosh, they did
• 2:57:14
  Speaker 1: this like girl power thing. You're like, no, she's just
• 2:57:17
  Speaker 1: a robot. They made look like a woman, so it's
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 1: not like you have to feel like it's not you
• 2:57:22
  Speaker 1: know whatever.
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 2: So this is predators are getting sucked up here.
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 1: Uh So it's based off this one runt predator who's
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 1: on That's why he looks kind of weird and Shito, No,
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: that's the that's the predators. Yeah. I didn't spoil anything,
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 1: but he's like a little runt. Oh, and so that's
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 1: why he's out to prove himself, like because he's smaller
• 2:57:41
  Speaker 1: than all of them, he's missing a fang. He looks
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 1: a little weird, but that's because he's supposed to look
• 2:57:45
  Speaker 1: weird because a lot of people are like this. This
• 2:57:47
  Speaker 1: this predator looks stupid.
• 2:57:51
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. Nine like this movie. No, she loved it.
• 2:57:55
  Speaker 2: I like when they can do that with a movie.
• 2:57:57
  Speaker 2: You know, you think, oh, what is this going to be? Right?
• 2:58:00
  Speaker 2: Flip it on its how I felt.
• 2:58:03
  Speaker 1: And every time there would be a thing where I'd
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 1: start to criticize it, like I'd be like, this feels
• 2:58:06
  Speaker 1: like Mortal Kombat, and then in my mind I'd go, Jeff,
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 1: you love Mortal Kombat. I was all right, and then
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 1: like the next part, I'd be like this kind of
• 2:58:12
  Speaker 1: Star Wars and like, but I love Star Wars. So
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 1: like I kept like coaching for seven and then after
• 2:58:15
  Speaker 1: a whiles, this movie's really good.
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta just enjoy things. Yeah, that's why I
• 2:58:19
  Speaker 2: still people when I play AI music for them, Like,
• 2:58:22
  Speaker 2: just forget about the fact that Root's taken over. This
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 2: is great music.
• 2:58:25
  Speaker 1: This is a pattern of every famous person I know.
• 2:58:28
  Speaker 2: Wait, you say Jamie is tough, But which one stuff great? Great?
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 3: Is the weird?
• 2:58:33
  Speaker 2: It's amazing? How about that very good?
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 1: That?
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 2: What up? Gangster? Is amazing? You know it is.
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 3: I've just I've I've gotten so many rabbit holes too.
• 2:58:40
  Speaker 3: Watching cover songs though, like my favorite cover song and
• 2:58:44
  Speaker 3: finding different bands doing good versions of it.
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 2: They're real listen though, the real bands are better for
• 2:58:50
  Speaker 2: sure because it's a real band, so it's a real person.
• 2:58:53
  Speaker 2: But I love listening to AI music. I know there's
• 2:58:56
  Speaker 2: one going vibe.
• 2:58:56
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this.
• 2:58:58
  Speaker 3: It's not officially one. It's like a weird designation, but
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 3: there's a song that's number one on the country Digital
• 2:59:05
  Speaker 3: Sales chart by a completely AI band.
• 2:59:08
  Speaker 1: DJs kind of DJs were kind of like the first
• 2:59:12
  Speaker 1: version of that, Like they're putting in their robot and
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 1: then like making the songs and sampling and stuff. So
• 2:59:17
  Speaker 1: this is just I mean, it's not that far deviating.
• 2:59:20
  Speaker 2: This is way deviating. This is you could change the
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 2: kind of song, like you could have it like a
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 2: little Charlie Crockett, a little Elvis Presley. You could mix it.
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 2: And they were like, they're essentially drawing from all the
• 2:59:33
  Speaker 2: songs that have ever been made, so all the best
• 2:59:35
  Speaker 2: sounds that anybody's ever has to be good. It's amazing,
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 2: it's so good.
• 2:59:40
  Speaker 1: It has to be the way you just described it.
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 1: It has all the music.
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 2: Well, go wrap this up, Jeff, and we'll wrap this
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 2: up and I'll play you a little what up gangster.
• 2:59:49
  Speaker 2: We don't need the audience at home to hear this,
• 2:59:51
  Speaker 2: but you need to hear this everyone to edit out anyway.
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 1: Every so many successful people I know are really like
• 2:59:56
  Speaker 1: big music heads.
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 2: Oh music is a drug, man. It's a marvelous drug
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 2: that inspires you, makes you feel better, it makes you move.
• 3:00:04
  Speaker 1: Around that mothership. You guys are always playing good music
• 3:00:07
  Speaker 1: up in that game, and I'm always like, what is this?
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 1: Like every single time I think I'm in that green room,
• 3:00:11
  Speaker 1: I'm always going, what's this one?
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 2: Tony's got a bun? Well, everybody contributes. Everybody when they
• 3:00:15
  Speaker 2: find a cool song, we'll bring it into the green
• 3:00:17
  Speaker 2: room and then we'll add it to the We got
• 3:00:19
  Speaker 2: the playlist on Spotify's like thirty four hours or something. Now, Yeah,
• 3:00:23
  Speaker 2: it's crazy because you just keep you adding cool songs.
• 3:00:25
  Speaker 1: That's perfect.
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 2: Jeff did anything website, Instagram.
• 3:00:30
  Speaker 1: I just launched a podcast. It's called die Hard Pretty good. Yeah,
• 3:00:36
  Speaker 1: y d y e Hard once a week comes out
• 3:00:40
  Speaker 1: every week. You can watch it on YouTube or wherever
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. It's on everything. Yeah, and then
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 1: at first I didn't because of you. I made it
• 3:00:48
  Speaker 1: for everyone, you know, like I had it behind a
• 3:00:51
  Speaker 1: thing on a Patreon and like, NA, don't do that.
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going, yeah, it just it won't grow. That's the problem.
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 2: Like you get some money for like a a complete lack.
• 3:01:00
  Speaker 1: Of Yeah, I'd rather everyone hear it. And uh, and
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 1: then also we will start doing a thing where it's
• 3:01:05
  Speaker 1: like once a week we'll do the uh, you know,
• 3:01:07
  Speaker 1: a face to face where I have like an interview
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 1: with somebody that I like and and sit down and
• 3:01:12
  Speaker 1: do like a proper podcast. But yeah, and then Jeff
• 3:01:15
  Speaker 1: dot com to find all my tour dates.
• 3:01:17
  Speaker 2: And uh, I'll see you tonight, yes sir, yes sir,
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 2: all right, thanks for having me brother. All right, here's
• 3:01:22
  Speaker 2: the music.