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Kim Smith and John Goodson

Movie Meltdown - Episode 400 This week we continue our coverage from WonderFest as we sit down with Kim Smith and John Goodson. Both are technical masters who spent years working at LucasFilm's Industrial Light and Magic, and they have logged in many years building physical models as well as transitioning into digital effects as the industry began to change around them.

And while we try to make sense of this vortex of time and mysterious things, we also discuss... Assassin's Creed, Riverdale, fantastic carpet, sculpting, The Rocketeer, finding the hook, a 33-foot Zeppelin, a stormy night…

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