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Endgame for the Iran war, DHS funding & New World Order · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:03
  President Trump says we are very close to meeting Iran objectives as Trump weighs the options to open up the Strait of Hermos.
• 0:11
  Americans are asking what the end game is in the war with Iran.
• 0:16
  DHS shutdown stretches to over 35 days now as Democrats block the funding bill.
• 0:22
  Elon Musk offers to pay TSA workers' salaries amid the DHS budget standoff.
• 0:29
  Edward Huglin, Bruce Robertson, and Nate Kane will answer the question is Donald Trump a genius or a fool.
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  It's all next on Viewpoint this Sunday.
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  It is time to put away the bias, the lies and deceit and bring forth real talk from real people about real news, providing the out loud truth and capturing the essence of a new generation all in a fast paced hour.
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  This is Viewpoint this Sunday.
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  Welcome to the weekend news magazine.
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  It is Malcolm Alvaud here and privileged to be with you as always, my fellow Americans.
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  Welcome to another big broadcast here.
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  Listen, um, Trump says very close to meeting the Iran objectives.
• 1:36
  Uh people are wondering when that when that shoe drops, I guess, you know.
• 1:40
  And uh way in the options to open the strait of Hormuz is the other big talking point.
• 1:46
  Uh and uh there's a whole lot behind that, of course, with the Allies and others, as you're seeing here.
• 1:52
  The Associated Press reports three weeks into an escalating war in the Middle East.
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  The U.S.
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  is sending more warships and marines to the region, and Iran threatened on Friday to expand its retaliatory attacks to include recreational and tourist sites worldwide, which is what they're always doing, trying to put a fear campaign out there.
• 2:12
  That's what they do.
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  Uh, as Israeli air strikes landed in Tehran, Iran launched more attacks on Israel and energy sites and neighboring Gulf Arab states.
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  And that really has been uh very perplexing to a lot of people how and why Iran would be uh doing that, because they've cut off any particular limb that they might have had as this thing started.
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  So this is a historical game changing moment, uh, my friends, that we're living through right now.
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  Now it's a very divided conversation.
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  There are those who believe that America first does not entail engaging in uh affairs like this, and there are those who believe this is absolutely America first.
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  So it's it's controversial, controversial for sure, but there's a lot to it.
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  And then you see Congress and you see the business of the um the uh the the budget and and uh stavanoff, the HHS, the uh and ICE uh and and now the TSA and all of that because of the Homeland Security funding.
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  Uh this is becoming a massive, massive problem.
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  And by the way, Elon Musk is saying he's gonna pay for the TSA workers, no problem, the salaries.
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  He always gets his name in the headlines in a very interesting way, though, doesn't he?
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  Very interesting man for interesting times here.
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  Uh joining us on the broadcast today.
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  Uh this is going to be great conversation here because Edward Huglin is here.
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  He's a retired federal senior executive, a U.S.
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  Ear Force veteran as well.
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  Worked in the intelligence community, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Energy, and State.
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  And Ed has that great book about uh about the cognitive warfare.
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  And that's a big part of this Iran thing.
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  We'll talk about today for sure.
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  And another gentleman that uh enjoyed to get to know a lot, and he he's been here, Nate Kane.
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  He's uh first of all, is FBI whistleblower and really has uh part of history with all of that, but he's a military veteran, an expert in cybersecurity as well, and uh he is one of our hosts on Unleash the Political News Hour, actually.
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  It's a 7 p.m.
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  broadcast on the uh iHeart uh network here.
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  Uh so uh appreciate Nate being here.
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  And a gentleman to round out this great panel conversation.
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  Here's uh Bruce Robertson.
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  And he was just saying, I think it's his hundred and something broadcast he's done, which uh I can't even believe it is, but it is.
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  Uh is a uh 40-year career veteran economics, finance, political science.
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  Uh, he also is a host on Unleash the Political News Hour, by the way, on Thursdays.
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  Uh Nate is on Tuesdays.
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  That is a stellar program.
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  There's some great people on that, as well as the national security hour that plays after that.
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  So mark your calendar down seven to nine.
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  You want to get that for sure, so you get unleashed the political news hour and then the national security hour every night.
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  Turn the TV off because the mainstream media sucks.
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  And it's not going to help educate you at all.
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  So, and listening to America out loud for sure.
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  Okay.
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  Uh, let's start off here.
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  And uh the uh Washington Post, U.S.
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  Israeli rift widens over potential end game in Iran.
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  Uh, and everybody's talking about what's the end game now?
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  Where are we going with this thing?
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  Boots on the ground.
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  Is Trump going to put boots on the ground?
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  Then we have sort of this mixed message in of the fact he's saying, all right, it's getting time to wrap this thing up.
• 5:27
  And at the same time, they're sending ships and marines out there and all that sort of thing.
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  So it's a little odd.
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  Ed Huglin, uh, there is a lot of mixed message.
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  Uh Trump is usually likes the element of surprise.
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  So what is it that we have more ships going out there, more more troops, more things?
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  Yet he's literally talking in the last 24 hours.
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  Time to wrap this thing up.
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  He can feel the heavy breathing on the back of his neck.
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  He knows people are getting restless.
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  He wants to prove he's not doing an endless war.
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  He doesn't want to stay there very long.
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  People don't believe him.
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  He thinks they think that he thinks he's gonna put boots on the ground.
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  What do you say?
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  Well, you know, he set up front three to six weeks for the war.
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  It's only the third week here, going in their fourth week.
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  Uh, second.
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  He's not gonna telegraph what he's doing because that's uh the whole point of strategy is to not allow your enemies to understand what you're doing.
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  So I think he's doing the right thing here.
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  He's sort of keeping people guessing.
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  Uh I doubt he's gonna put boots on the ground.
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  You got three to five thousand Marines going there.
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  Okay, that's not an invasion force.
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  Here's something specific for them, whether it's to retrieve uh the fissile material or whether it's to do something relative to Carg Island.
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  Uh that's that's remained to be seen.
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  But I think if he's telegraphing, this is close to the end.
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  Part of his problem that he still has to address is the 300,000 Iraqi uh force and militia members.
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  Okay, and and until he figures out how to uh eviscerate them in some way, shape, or form, is gonna limit the Iranian people's opportunities to rise.
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  So I think there's some synergies there in his strategy that we've not been let uh let into yet that are gonna deal with those militia members and and also with the uh financial aspect to keep Iran uh engaged with us rather than uh continue to commit suicide.
• 7:22
  You know, Ed isn't this uh it's a very complicated situation though.
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  The days and weeks are numbered, don't you think, as far as how long he can keep that going because you have the midterm elections right there uh in in the front window.
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  It's just coming at us here.
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  Uh he's got to turn this boat quickly.
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  And I think the best way I can say it, Ed, with everything going on economically as well as there in Congress, the midterms coming to war, things happen in Venezuela.
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  He's got Cuba hanging over here.
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  Uh he's got to start to land some of these planes quickly.
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  And if he doesn't, I think we're gonna have some problems in the midterm elections.
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  He the Republicans will.
• 7:55
  What do you say to that?
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  Well, I think what he just needs to do is sort of again he'll reveal a strategic card, but what he needs to do is make the strategic case to the American people.
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  This is a strategic endeavor that we've waited fifth 47 years to undertake.
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  One, in Venezuela and Cuba and such, this is a century of his long struggle in the Western hemisphere.
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  And so to really put peace in the Middle East to completely change the dynamics in the Middle East as well as the Western Hemisphere.
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  This is a sacrifice that he's gonna have to ask Americans to step up to.
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  And Americans have always done that in the past.
• 8:30
  The thing is, Trump hasn't made that request to the public directly yet.
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  We're an instant gratification society, and because of that, we're now 39 trillion dollars in debt.
• 8:41
  And it's time we start to act like adults and realize at some point there's some sacrifice of the American people going to be required.
• 8:49
  And this is that point for for the long-term gain.
• 8:52
  Yeah, that's good, good uh analysis.
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  And and by the way, Ed just points out there, friends, that 39 trillion and the reason it's probably on his consciousness is within the last 24 hours of this broadcast that you hear in right now, for the first time in history, we have now gone over that mark.
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  We've gone over 39 trillion officially, officially right now.
• 9:13
  And so that is not a good thing at all, and it plays to some of the challenges we're having economically as well here.
• 9:19
  Uh Nate Kane, um within the confines of what Trump is pulling off right now, uh, and people are questioning the end game of this thing.
• 9:29
  What's the end game?
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  What's the end game?
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  When do you get out of there?
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  Uh and I and we'll get to the cognitive part of this thing in just a few moments because there's some interesting things we want to talk about there.
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  What do you think actually he's going to be satisfied?
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  Because how far down can we drill to get the the IRGC and and some of the internal mechanisms of Iran, which is what holds that regime together.
• 9:51
  Uh, you know, it's it's a balancing act, isn't it?
• 9:54
  Oh, absolutely.
• 9:55
  And I think the the problem that we're facing right now is, of course, there's been very
• 10:00
  Very little to no help from our NATO allies, who all, by the way, uh many of them rely upon the oil that comes out of the uh Hormuz Strait.
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  So it it is a it's a complex problem because the the fact that they have the capability or they may have already uh laid some mines, and it doesn't take a lot, it only takes one or two.
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  And the fact that you have Lloyds of London that has basically cut off insurance uh for the oil shipping uh you know companies that it it becomes a big problem.
• 10:30
  So clearing that it it's not that there's a blockade of Iranian ships or anything like that.
• 10:37
  That's not what they mean when they're saying, you know, we need to clear the the Straits of Hormouth.
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  No, or open it up.
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  What they're saying is we need to make sure that there's no mines.
• 10:45
  Yeah.
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  And the fact that we're not getting the support from the very countries that rely on that oil.
• 10:51
  Trump's made it very clear.
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  He says, look, we don't need the oil that that's coming out of there.
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  But let's be real.
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  Um, we have a very delicate relationship with the Gulf states, which rely on their ability to get oil out of the Gulf and uh, you know, out of the straits through the Straits of Hormuz.
• 11:08
  So I do think that we will play a role in helping to open up the uh Straits of Hormuz, which mainly you know, the the main point of that is making sure that there are no mines that are laid that will uh you know take down any of these cargo ships.
• 11:25
  And so I think honestly, I think that is the main reason and purpose for uh the uh marine uh expeditionary unit that is heading there right now, uh, with the mini carrier.
• 11:37
  Um I've worked on a lot of missions.
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  I I worked with the Navy for nine years, and I was working in the fleet battle lab for most of those.
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  So I've seen a lot of the war game simulation, including those that involve that.
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  And one thing I know for certain is that we we do have minesweepers, we've got very advanced um capabilities for taking out mines, but uh they're very focused in what they do, and you've got to have a protection bubble around them.
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  Two things are units perfect for that.
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  Isn't the end game really regime change?
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  I mean, let's call as I mean we know it is for Netanyahu, but isn't it really that way for it?
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  Doesn't Trump see that as the real victory there?
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  I would say so, but at the same time, how how do we how does Trump keep it about you know, in the public eye, not about regime change?
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  The ultimately the old the regime change has got to come from the inside of Iran.
• 12:27
  Now, there is stuff that is going on right now with the uh you know, with the people of Iran, there I'm certain there are people who are being armed.
• 12:35
  Uh there's been talk of of the uh the Iranian Kurds uh arming up and other things that are happening, even Azerbaijan uh in their military, you know, basically placing themselves right on the border there.
• 12:47
  So I think there is going to be regime change without a doubt, but that it's not likely going to be the United States leading that.
• 12:55
  With the regime change, okay, yeah.
• 12:57
  Yeah.
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  Uh yeah, it's a tricky thing because uh a lot of people are not going to go along with that uh very clearly.
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  But and you really sometimes shake your head because you wonder how can they not go along with that?
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  Because after 47 years of terror, worldwide terror, uh, is there another path, friends?
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  Is what we gotta ask ourselves.
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  And uh it's it's a it's a it's a tricky situation, no doubt.
• 13:20
  Uh uh, Bruce, Bruce Robinson uh was speaking about the uh the Strait of Hormuz that um Nate's just talking about here and the mines, and he's so right when he says, listen, it only takes one or two or a couple of things, and and that really is uh where this thing is uh not a level playing field because uh with these little boats and these it doesn't take much at all.
• 13:41
  They don't need massive equipment to create havoc there.
• 13:44
  A lot of that oil, you you focused recently, Bruce, on on uh the uh the geopolitical impact of the Iran war had far reaching consequences for China.
• 13:54
  You did a whole program on this, actually, and that a lot of this was China's oil.
• 13:58
  In fact, the president got a lot of heads to turn, oh, just a couple weeks ago, as you see, inviting China into the strait to protect the straight.
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  And I thought that was hysterical.
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  I don't think Xi Khan Fellford at this point, but he actually invited them.
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  Talk about your what you see as the China input of this, because uh, you know, China's supply is really heavily uh allocated through there, huh?
• 14:22
  Well, I yes, I saw the uh Hormuz uh challenge that uh Trump put out there as kind of a trap for uh both our uh so-called allies and China and the uh some of the others maybe that benefit from uh Hormuz oil, because as you said earlier, we're not benefiting from we we don't use it, right?
• 14:44
  We don't use Iranian oil.
• 14:46
  The uh the city of London uh has been in control of Persian oil largely for the you know, probably since 1908 when they discovered oil or 1901, something like that, uh, when they discovered oil in in Persia and took control of it.
• 15:03
  So that became British Persian oil company, and that became then BP, and that was owned by the British government for a long time.
• 15:11
  So you know, that's where the control in the region comes from.
• 15:14
  But in terms of China, uh we've kind of taken over a choke point there, and China was also benefiting from oil from Venezuela.
• 15:24
  So and there have been these ghost ships or you know, dark tankers, as they call them, where they kind of they almost smuggle the oil to uh to the far east and then you know, kind of move it through Malaysia to disguise where it's coming from.
• 15:42
  And uh that's what I've discovered in my research that uh that China has been uh participating in that oil, even uh to circumnavigate the uh the uh uh embargo against Iran.
• 15:57
  So it's a real choke point for China, and I understand the Chinese economy is now uh suffering uh because they have less access to oil, and it'll it'll only get worse the tighter that gets.
• 16:10
  You don't see Xi Jinping sending anybody over.
• 16:13
  I don't see any of that happening, no.
• 16:16
  Um, and economically, by the way, there's an interesting point.
• 16:19
  I was talking with a Greek shipping expert uh this week, and he said that the type of insurance that Lloyds of London, you know, Lloyds of London, of course, pulled back their insurance, but that's part of British uh the British stranglehold on Persian oil, and they kind of want to maintain that dominance.
• 16:38
  So Lloyds of London, of course, works for the British, right?
• 16:42
  And and they've had a strangold on that for a while.
• 16:45
  They pulled that insurance back because you know, they they want to kind of stymie Trump a little bit, but Trump just turned around and said we're gonna self-insure if we have to.
• 16:56
  Yeah, and we'll escort those ships through the Straits of the Strait of Hormuz if we have to.
• 17:00
  I think what a lot of Americans are confused with is that you know, if we're not using the oil so much, and and that's pretty well documented now, yet we're there doing all this protecting this, this and this, and these others don't want to get involved who really need the the uh the oil coming through there.
• 17:15
  Why is it we can't manage our own affairs?
• 17:17
  A lot of people don't understand it's a global market, Bruce.
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  They don't understand the global market, controls the pricing.
• 17:23
  And you almost wonder, isn't there another way to do this thing?
• 17:26
  You kind of you know what I'm saying?
• 17:27
  You kind of rack your head a little bit since we don't really need it, but yet we're paying the price deeply.
• 17:32
  And a lot of people can't afford the price at the pump right now, Bruce.
• 17:34
  You know, it's tough.
• 17:36
  Well, it's an it's an interesting uh domino theory in that respect, because you know, first we freed up Venezuela, and we we benefited from a lot of that oil, and then we re we restored some of our strategic reserves already.
• 17:51
  And um, we've all you know, he's also freeing up uh pipeline access and and uh you know refineries, our refineries are specifically targeted to refine that type of oil.
• 18:03
  It's not Brent, it's not Brent Sweet Crude that it that we're so good at.
• 18:07
  It's it's uh that that Western hemisphere oil that we're good at.
• 18:11
  Um it's a good thing he did Venezuela before he did uh before we he went to the Middle East, I guess, huh?
• 18:16
  Sure, that was a double, that was a double thing because it that that choked off Cuba.
• 18:21
  So I'm gonna mention something.
• 18:24
  What why do you do how many, you know, here we are talking?
• 18:26
  Hold on a minute.
• 18:27
  Here, hold on a minute.
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  Here we are talking about Venezuela.
• 18:29
  We're talking about we've seen Greenland in the mix, you know, Cuba over here, got the Middle East over here.
• 18:33
  Serious question, and but but answer it quickly.
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  Uh 60 seconds.
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  How that's all I want to bring an answer fast.
• 18:40
  So here we go.
• 18:41
  How is it that people are scratching their heads wondering, wait a minute, wait a minute.
• 18:44
  This is supposed to be America first.
• 18:46
  You're supposed to be dealing with our economic deals here, problems here, things that are going on here.
• 18:50
  And now we're talking about things that you're trying to solve the entire world's problems, like in one year of your administration.
• 18:57
  I mean, that's kind of a head scratcher, isn't it?
• 18:59
  Well, we freed up the oil and we're freeing up the people.
• 19:03
  And uh, you know, both of those things are in our best interest.
• 19:07
  Nobody anticipated that, Bruce, is what I'm saying.
• 19:10
  Nobody anticipated that.
• 19:11
  No, it was a chess move.
• 19:12
  It was a reveal move on Trump's part.
• 19:15
  Um, it was a revealing move.
• 19:16
  He moved moved a chess piece out of the way, and all of a sudden, bang, here we are.
• 19:20
  That's a great way to look at it, but people are not happy about that chess piece he moved.
• 19:24
  I gotta tell you, and I'm very serious when I say this.
• 19:26
  I got a lot of people around me right now that are ripping pissed about this.
• 19:30
  They are not happy.
• 19:32
  They're they're really furious, huh?
• 19:34
  I said, why not?
• 19:37
  Yeah, I I guess why not?
• 19:39
  All right.
• 19:39
  Uh Ed Hoglin, I want to get you in here right now.
• 19:42
  This one of the biggest things I want to talk about on this thing.
• 19:45
  What I was just sharing with Bruce there about, you know, I mean, God, all right.
• 19:50
  The way he just put it there was very interesting to me, Ed.
• 19:53
  All right, so you know, he decides to move this piece.
• 19:57
  Nobody's seen that piece on the board.
• 19:59
  Look.
• 20:00
  This is serious now, Ed.
• 20:01
  Nobody really seen, I don't think anybody would have bet, even the Vegas bets or the odd makers would have bet he was going to go after, you know, he started talking about Greenland, and everybody was rolling their eyes.
• 20:12
  Oh, that's Trump just being Trump man.
• 20:14
  And then he then he went, we're talking about Venezuela, Cuba, the Middle East.
• 20:18
  He's talking about all kinds of things.
• 20:20
  I mean, nobody's seen this coming, Ed.
• 20:23
  I mean, it's crazy.
• 20:25
  Well, that's that's the artist's strategic surprise.
• 20:28
  And this is where Trump himself, not so much as his overall national security leadership is very good at cognitive warfare.
• 20:35
  So what what she's done now is mega first is make America great.
• 20:39
  But to do that, you have to have NASA security.
• 20:42
  Cuba and Venezuela and Iran were threatening our national security and multiple different fronts as the proxies for China, Russia, okay, and others.
• 20:52
  And so what he has done now is basically not only send them a message, but he's bitch slapped them uh pretty hard into realization.
• 21:00
  His his request to X is basically tugging his chain saying, uh, come on, come on, G, you understand what I'm doing here is you ain't gonna get crap out of this, and your economy's gonna tank, okay, because we're playing for keeps here.
• 21:12
  We're playing go now, we're not playing checkers anymore.
• 21:15
  So he's taken the advantage and game and match here.
• 21:19
  Now, he has some uh maneuvering to do here yet.
• 21:22
  But what people don't uh realize because they're very myopic in nature, they're not strategic in nature, is I believe Trump's already covertly and laid out some different aspects with other regiments and and that within Iran uh and their borders that will help to take care of what Bruce and Nate were talking about in terms of the invasion and and change regime change.
• 21:43
  So there's a lot of facets here to go on, and so American people have to have a little patience.
• 21:48
  Well, that's what I want to talk to you about.
• 21:50
  A lot of them don't have that patience.
• 21:51
  Hold on a moment, hold on.
• 21:52
  How do we because I'm hearing the loud voices, even on our they're all over our network.
• 21:58
  I mean, our network is very divided on this point.
• 22:00
  And you can see the stories in the top stories and the news feed every day.
• 22:04
  It's split.
• 22:05
  It's really truly split.
• 22:07
  There are those, and you can see, and that's why we represent a good uh vaction of our country.
• 22:13
  People are not convinced, and they think he has stepped into a real pile of you know what here.
• 22:18
  They're not seeing the chess piece that Bruce mentioned, and they don't like this at all.
• 22:23
  I mean, so what do we say about that?
• 22:25
  How do we in other words, patience is running thin, Ed, thin, thin?
• 22:30
  And I mean you have to have to message them back and help them understand is that they're being useless idiots, okay.
• 22:37
  Is that uh where your impatience and instant gratification has got this country over the last uh five decades.
• 22:45
  Again, you mentioned 39 trillion in debt.
• 22:48
  Look at the censorship, the cancel culture, the weaponization, look at the uh uh the whole social media aspect, look at the uh culture of America, and everything's been subverted undermined because we have taken our eye off the ball that for us to survive strategically requires strategic resilience and investment.
• 23:07
  And Trump just needs to make that case.
• 23:09
  Okay.
• 23:09
  Open borders as well.
• 23:11
  Let's not forget open borders.
• 23:13
  Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 23:14
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:15
  I mean, uh the accomplishments have been incredible here uh to most people's eyes.
• 23:19
  Of course, the Democrat leaders uh don't want to see it that way, obviously.
• 23:23
  Uh you know, when you're fighting for just political power, you're not fighting for the United States and the constitution or the values we hold.
• 23:30
  Uh, you're you it you know all the rules have been broken, and really that's why we're in a very difficult place.
• 23:35
  Uh, keep your mic hot right this moment, Ed.
• 23:38
  And I want to ask Nate something, and I want to come right back to you about something about this cognitive uh we're right in the meat of what I want to talk about.
• 23:45
  Nate, but I I want you to weigh in on this first.
• 23:48
  Here's here's the question.
• 23:51
  We see what's happened militarily, we see what's happening on the battlefield, we see the patience and the American people, and it's a very delicate uh uh teethata here going on here.
• 24:02
  In order to have what we're talking about here, uh Iran to not fall into a trap to make this worthwhile, this endeavor where they don't run back into just rebuilding that regime again.
• 24:15
  How do we break Iran's will?
• 24:18
  The re that the the the set the the particles left of that regime that and they're they're all implanted all over there.
• 24:25
  How do we break Iran's will, Nate?
• 24:28
  How do you think that can that be done?
• 24:30
  I don't think it can be.
• 24:31
  Um, I think we have to kill them.
• 24:33
  I I think that the we're talking about we're seeing some of it breaking.
• 24:36
  You already have some of the leadership which has uh fled the country, and they have their minions that are still there fighting.
• 24:43
  Uh, but there have been some leaked WhatsApp uh and telegram um messages that show that there's infighting that's already beginning and people saying, hey, you know, why are you leaving and leaving us here to fight?
• 24:55
  So I do think that some of that is breaking, but let's face it, the the mullahs and and these people who are of an ideology and a belief system uh that believes that they they have to bring about the apocalypse.
• 25:11
  I mean, that that's what they see it.
• 25:12
  The destruction of Israel brings about uh, you know, their uh, you know, their messiah.
• 25:17
  So this is exactly why Trump had to do this.
• 25:22
  We could not wait any longer.
• 25:24
  And uh, you know, the the because these people would absolutely have used a nuclear weapon if they had achieved one.
• 25:31
  And according to you know what reports are coming out from the the last meeting that uh that uh Trump's people had with Iran was they were bragging about the fact that they had enough fissile material for multiple nuclear weapons, and they were building ICBMs, which could then bring those nuclear weapons to the United States.
• 25:51
  Okay, all right, all right.
• 25:53
  Well said.
• 25:53
  Um Ed, Nate says how do we break Iran's will?
• 25:59
  We have to kill them.
• 26:00
  You agree with that?
• 26:01
  Well, I don't think I have to kill all of them because there's two fronts in every war.
• 26:05
  One's kinetic, one's cognitive, and the cognitive one is every uh not so obvious, but it's the most critical.
• 26:11
  Every war we've had since World War II, we've lost because we've not won the cognitive war aspect of it.
• 26:17
  Yes, we've won the kinetic war in Iraq, etc.
• 26:20
  Kinetic war in Afghanistan, etc.
• 26:21
  Yeah, but we've lost a cognitive.
• 26:23
  In Iran, the difference is gonna be having one or two examples for the masses and majority who are already, they're already on our side in terms of will and support.
• 26:34
  But they have to have a couple examples to whereby they defeat either the Kud's force or the militia and decimate them themselves to give them then the understanding they have the power to take back their country.
• 26:48
  They're ready to do that, but I think we just need to take a couple of different steps there.
• 26:52
  Yeah.
• 26:52
  The challenge we have here in this cognitive war, if we have a fifth column operating here in the US and also within Europe, and it's driven by a subtle shift that tied to the Muslim migration and other things.
• 27:03
  So as Nate was talking about the the ideology and such, you know, the ideology is BS, okay.
• 27:11
  It's a veil use of religion to obtain absolute power, just like communist ideology is a veiled use of ideology to attain absolute power.
• 27:20
  And this is the sham that's going on.
• 27:22
  So, yes, people will have to die, but not to the degree I think that Nate Nate thinks.
• 27:26
  Well, you know, it if you know, when they killed, we we had uh we had an expert on last week uh that was uh from from Iran and uh who's in contact with all of these people on the ground there, he says the real numbers uh this was mind-blowing.
• 27:44
  I about dropped on the floor when he said this.
• 27:47
  Uh he says the real numbers on the ground of people they've killed is is well over a hundred thousand, more like a hundred and forty.
• 27:55
  He's he was specific in his numbers, actually.
• 27:58
  140,000, he backed it up and explained it on the program.
• 28:01
  That's massive in the size and scope.
• 28:03
  I don't know where you that that's a mass grave if I ever heard one.
• 28:06
  Uh and uh so you know the the thing though, Ed, is here's what I was thinking.
• 28:12
  People are afraid now to come out of the homes, they're afraid to come out of their business.
• 28:15
  They just they've seen what's happened.
• 28:17
  They just hung these athletes in the center square, and these people are brutal, they are disgusting, they chopped heads off.
• 28:23
  It's all in the the the Allah's command and Mohammed's Quran, on and on and on and on and on.
• 28:29
  So had those people not come out then, here's what I'm thinking, Ed.
• 28:34
  If we were at the point right now that before they started to come out, those people, in other words, before they got rid of that upper echelon of the regime and all of that, we'd have had a better chance right now to get that regime thing to happen, I think, Ed, but now some of that's happened and scared the hell out of people.
• 28:53
  And I think it's kind of flipped, it's gonna make this job a little harder.
• 28:56
  I think they came out too soon, is what I'm saying.
• 28:58
  You agree with that?
• 29:00
  Well, not necessarily.
• 29:01
  I mean, they they showed their support for freedom, and so we reacted.
• 29:05
  The challenge here is okay, I'll use an analogy.
• 29:08
  Take a look at Antifa and what happened with the Antifa folks.
• 29:11
  They mass in groups, they fight in groups, okay.
• 29:15
  But once you break them up and get them alongside, they cry like little babies and wussies, okay.
• 29:20
  The could's force and militia be the same thing, just like Saddam.
• 29:24
  They all cry and weep like little babies once they're no longer within their entourage.
• 29:29
  So the all we have to do is make a few examples here of of that.
• 29:32
  Regardless of that, any human, I don't care where you are, China, Iran, whatever else, your internal will is always for freedom.
• 29:40
  It's a God-given right, it's always gonna be there.
• 29:43
  The opportunity then to exercise that really comes down to what are you willing to sacrifice.
• 29:48
  And I think the Iranian people are gonna have to understand and already do that.
• 29:53
  It's death fight, or be subjugated for another 100 years.
• 29:58
  And I think that change.
• 30:00
  Is coming here, and that's why I think the strategy aspect that uh Trump's hiding has not come to fruition yet.
• 30:06
  Okay, all right.
• 30:07
  Well said.
• 30:08
  We're we're at that uh historical uh point here of uh a lot can happen and will happen and a lot will change here.
• 30:15
  And you know what's also remarkable about this, my friends is that all of this is happening.
• 30:20
  It's pretty pretty crazy at our 250th, our semi-quincentennial right now.
• 30:25
  Think about that.
• 30:26
  Think about that.
• 30:27
  And we're always fighting for freedom here uh in our country.
• 30:31
  We're always fighting to keep that liberty that that torch burning here.
• 30:34
  And here we are again at 250th.
• 30:37
  And the American experiment has to be renewed.
• 30:40
  I'm gonna suggest to you, because if we continue to go down those rabbit holes without fixing some of this, uh potentially, uh I know a lot of people think we don't have to mess with this, but then you you do jeopardize the American experiment.
• 30:52
  So you can think about that a little more.
• 30:54
  It's a heavy, heavy context, but there's a lot to it.
• 30:58
  Malcolm.
• 30:59
  Yeah, yeah.
• 30:59
  So for one quick point here.
• 31:00
  So, what Americans have to understand also that that we're no longer separated by oceans in this threat.
• 31:06
  A drone with an IP address and an explosive is all they need here, and they have millions of people who've infiltrated the U.S.
• 31:14
  already.
• 31:14
  Yeah.
• 31:15
  So Americans need to understand it.
• 31:18
  This threat is real and it can occur anytime.
• 31:20
  The lone wolf attacks are just going to increase.
• 31:23
  And I've been on your program for two years now, saying that it's only increased more.
• 31:27
  It's going to continue to increase.
• 31:29
  And so they have to understand.
• 31:31
  Okay, they got more skin in the game than they realize, and they have to stand up.
• 31:36
  Yeah, yeah.
• 31:36
  It's it's a you're right.
• 31:38
  No, you're exactly right.
• 31:39
  These are different times, is what the message is here.
• 31:42
  Different times.
• 31:42
  And it is so true.
• 31:44
  The the war fear has been leveled the playing field in very strange ways.
• 31:48
  And Nate was talking about that with the Strait of Horror Moose and the things with the minds and all of that.
• 31:51
  And he's exactly right here.
• 31:53
  All right.
• 31:54
  Uh, very interesting conversations.
• 31:55
  We've got a lot more to talk about with Edward Hugnan, Bruce Robertson, uh, Nate Kane, and uh take it forward here.
• 32:02
  I need to do a special uh tribute right now.
• 32:06
  I need you to hear me a moment here, because this is very sacred what I'm gonna share with you here.
• 32:12
  Uh, we lost one of our own.
• 32:13
  And today's program, I need to dedicate to a gentleman who I did not know a very long time, but man did I like him a lot.
• 32:23
  And it really, really crushed me that we lost him.
• 32:26
  He passed away unexpectedly.
• 32:28
  Um it just you just don't know, friends, what you don't know from time to time.
• 32:35
  You may have read some of his pieces.
• 32:38
  He was a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant voice, columnist.
• 32:42
  Um his name was Dr.
• 32:44
  Wolf, uh, Dr.
• 32:45
  Andrew Wolf Jr.
• 32:47
  He was the director of the Fulcrum Institute.
• 32:50
  They were just launching, and he was uh focused on political and cultural issues on both sides of the Atlantic.
• 32:57
  Uh as American foreign policy expert relates to the economic and foreign policies of NATO countries.
• 33:02
  Listen to this little write-up, the BRICS and nation states in the Middle East, always on the context of what is in America's best interest.
• 33:09
  Kind of lays out that America first thing we're talking about, but in a different element.
• 33:13
  He was uh gave service to the United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel.
• 33:17
  Uh Dr.
• 33:18
  Wolf uh obtained a PhD philosophy uh from from Wales uh uh in philosophy from University of South Africa, uh philosophical theology.
• 33:28
  Uh you know, I could go on and on.
• 33:31
  He taught philosophy and humanities in US and South Africa before retiring from the university.
• 33:36
  So let me share with you what what happened here.
• 33:38
  So this very fascinated man contacted me last year, mid-year.
• 33:43
  He wanted to write for America Out Loud.
• 33:45
  He'd been following us for some time, and he really liked what he's seen.
• 33:48
  Now, this guy was already being written in several major, major national publications.
• 33:53
  He was well known in those circles.
• 33:56
  And he came after me and said, you know, I really want to do this with America Out Loud.
• 33:59
  And I, you know, I looked at his backdrop and I thought, wow, this is incredible.
• 34:04
  And we ended up bringing him in, and he's his first piece uh was um was last year.
• 34:11
  Uh in uh it was only in September.
• 34:15
  Oh my golly.
• 34:16
  September 2025.
• 34:18
  His first column was Are We Losing a Sense of the Sacred as Americans.
• 34:22
  And he did such brilliant pieces every week.
• 34:25
  Sometimes you do a couple of pieces a week, just brilliant columns.
• 34:29
  I had the privilege of bringing them on viewpoint this Sunday here in January, and he was so blown away.
• 34:34
  And he he said, I'm ready to come back again.
• 34:36
  He said, Let me know when you want me back again.
• 34:38
  And I actually had him on with Ed Huglin and Nate Kane in January here, the two gentlemen here you're listening.
• 34:43
  They were on with Dr.
• 34:44
  Wolf.
• 34:45
  He was on that broadcast in January.
• 34:47
  And he said, So I just want to share with you, because I talked to his wife the other day here, okay.
• 34:54
  And so this is some of the messages he sent me, this Dr.
• 34:58
  Wolf.
• 34:58
  What what a man.
• 34:59
  He he we lost him.
• 35:00
  He died unexpectedly of a stroke.
• 35:04
  Strokes are one of those things.
• 35:06
  The man was full of life.
• 35:07
  He had so much to live for.
• 35:09
  And you know, this is why I tell you all the time, friends.
• 35:12
  We have to be nice to people.
• 35:14
  We have to we have to take the high road.
• 35:16
  We have to treat people with dignity and style.
• 35:18
  We have to treat people the way we wish to be treated, please.
• 35:22
  That's the key to life.
• 35:24
  Don't get in the sewer.
• 35:25
  Don't don't don't throw mud.
• 35:27
  Take the high road.
• 35:29
  That's what you want to do here, always.
• 35:31
  That's our mission and our message here on this network.
• 35:34
  And that's what I that's the way I live my life for sure.
• 35:38
  December 29th.
• 35:40
  He sends me a message.
• 35:41
  Hello, Malcolm.
• 35:42
  I pray your Christmas was filled with joy and wish.
• 35:45
  The same for 2026 for you.
• 35:47
  My essay this week speaks of Trump's economic successes and the dashed expectations of those aligned against him.
• 35:54
  Best to you and all the staff at America Out Loud.
• 35:57
  January 3rd.
• 35:59
  Malcolm wanted to thank you again for the opportunity to speak with such a distinguished group of intellects.
• 36:03
  He's speaking of Ed Hugland and Nate Kane here, for sure.
• 36:06
  Uh, who are not reticent about voicing their views out loud.
• 36:10
  I had so much more to say regarding the topics discussed.
• 36:13
  I hope I have the opportunity to do so in the future.
• 36:15
  You provide such an important service to America, and you have the courage to do it out loud.
• 36:20
  Thank you again, my best wolf.
• 36:23
  January, a couple weeks after that.
• 36:25
  Hey, thanks, M.
• 36:26
  You started calling me M.
• 36:27
  I called him Wolf.
• 36:28
  Hope you like hope you liked it.
• 36:30
  This was another brilliant piece you sent in.
• 36:32
  Be advised, my contacts in Israel in DC tell me we are very close now to military initiative in Iran.
• 36:38
  We'll be sending a piece on that soon.
• 36:40
  Thanks again, Wolf.
• 36:41
  Another one in February.
• 36:42
  And please communicate my appreciation to those responsible on America out loud for the superb graphics on my pieces.
• 36:49
  He says, I love them.
• 36:51
  And then in March, his wife.
• 36:55
  Uh uh, Angeli, Wolf's wife.
• 36:58
  I had not talked to her before, but uh we talked here uh just uh just recently.
• 37:02
  We connected on a call, and after the call, she sent me a message with additional contact information, including about their son Anthony.
• 37:09
  She said, Good evening, Malcolm.
• 37:10
  Thank you for your comfort and words in this difficult time.
• 37:13
  Kindness and generosity are real rear commodities these days.
• 37:18
  Uh thank you.
• 37:19
  My son has also now expressed an interest regarding the event in July in Nashville as well.
• 37:24
  Thank you again, Angela.
• 37:26
  We had a beautiful conversation.
• 37:28
  Anyways, God bless Dr.
• 37:30
  Wolf.
• 37:31
  And may he rest in peace and may he raise heaven in ways that we all uh aspire to.
• 37:39
  More viewpoint in just a moment.
• 37:43
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• 37:43
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  Privileged to be with you always, my fellow Americans.
• 41:05
  We bring you back to the broadcast here.
• 41:08
  And a special tribute today as I dedicate this broadcast to uh Dr.
• 41:12
  Andrew Wolfe, who we lost, a writer here.
• 41:15
  Very short time, but had a massive impact on uh on the network and and on me personally.
• 41:23
  We welcome back to the broadcast here, Edward Huglin.
• 41:27
  Nate Kane, who was on that broadcast in January with him, and Bruce Robertson joins us in a great panel conversation here.
• 41:35
  And we'll jump back into it here.
• 41:37
  And uh I hope you will join us out in Nashville.
• 41:40
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• 41:44
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• 42:00
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• 42:03
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• 42:26
  It's gonna be an extraordinary uh three-day event.
• 42:28
  So uh where are we?
• 42:30
  Let's talk now about uh I'm gonna I want to get over to uh Bruce, you a moment here.
• 42:36
  I got to cover this here real quickly here first here.
• 42:39
  Um the DHS uh shutdown stretches to over 35 days now as Democrats blocked the funding bill.
• 42:46
  It was a motion to advance the bill failed again, 4737, needed the 60 votes, of course.
• 42:51
  Uh there were a bunch of people missing that on both sides of the partisan uh divide that didn't show up even.
• 42:57
  Uh and uh so no funded again for the TSA, the long lines, people are being irritated.
• 43:02
  Uh, you you wouldn't possibly want to fly right now.
• 43:05
  Uh, you'd need some Prozac or some sort of medication or or a glass bottle of bourbon with you or something, I don't know what, but uh it's got to be real uh hardship for people out there.
• 43:14
  Uh Elon Musk comes out and he offers to pay the TSA workers in the last 24 hours, pay their salaries amid the DHS budget shutdown.
• 43:22
  He's very serious.
• 43:23
  He said, I would like to offer to pay the salaries of TSA personnel during this fund and impasse that is negatively affecting the lives of so many Americans at airports throughout the country.
• 43:33
  Uh he put that out on X on Saturday morning, by the way.
• 43:37
  Uh, what do you say about this shutdown?
• 43:40
  And without all the political ramifications, uh, how long much longer does it how long does it go on to you think?
• 43:45
  And will at some point somebody's gonna have to do something because you we're gonna crumble here from the inside.
• 43:52
  Uh it's hard to uh separate the political ramifications of this because obviously this is a political move on the part of Democrats, uh Malcolm.
• 44:00
  But uh you know, let's stop right there a minute.
• 44:04
  If you if you hold on a minute, you say that a moment, but let me uh if I was a Democrat, hold on a minute, hold hold on here.
• 44:09
  If I'm a Democrat and I'm on that side of Congress, and Trump is beaten my ass, okay?
• 44:14
  All right, like he's beaten me everywhere.
• 44:16
  Now he's got the world stage, he's has victories all over the place.
• 44:19
  The economy has a chance to roar again.
• 44:21
  We've seen how we screwed it up last time that worked brilliantly against him with our with uh with our uh the economy.
• 44:27
  It tripped it up and it slowed it way down and really messed Trump up.
• 44:30
  Why not do it again?
• 44:31
  It's the only thing I got, Bruce.
• 44:33
  If they're throwing a Hail Mary, he's gotta bat the ball down.
• 44:36
  He's gotta stand up and pin this directly on them.
• 44:41
  And uh if he's successful, if he's got the the bully pulpit, which he he does, except he doesn't have the media, of course, but uh he can go out directly and pin this on them, and it may backfire and blow up in their face, just like the lawfare and the the um you know the uh the stealing of the election and all this kind of stuff.
• 45:02
  Uh that the Epstein files, the release of the Epstein files blew up in their faces.
• 45:07
  Right.
• 45:07
  So uh he's Americans paying attention to this.
• 45:10
  Do you think they're paying attention?
• 45:12
  Well, you know, there's a there's a portion of the country that is so brainwashed and indoctrinated that they're never going to change their confirmation bias.
• 45:21
  Okay.
• 45:21
  So uh, you know, that's he can't move those people.
• 45:26
  But there are some people around the edges that have been moved by it, and uh, you know, libertarians and others.
• 45:32
  And I think that he can, especially if he shuts down the uh the election uh fraud, uh we'll be able to it doesn't look like that's gonna fly though, because uh he they're pushing to get a filibuster, but they're not they're saying there's no a thune says it's there's not enough votes for you to even get that, you know.
• 45:51
  Yeah, well, we got some we got some uh sticks in the mud in on the Republican side, too.
• 45:55
  That's a problem, too.
• 45:57
  So then you're and let me ask you this uh real quickly.
• 46:00
  The economy right now, you're an economic guy.
• 46:02
  Uh you play you you you work in the market, you see what happens in the stock market, you have a lot of stake out there in it.
• 46:07
  You you this is an area of expertise for you.
• 46:09
  Um just give me your elevator speech real quick.
• 46:13
  What happens right now?
• 46:14
  That's going to be key for this midterm election.
• 46:16
  And if they lose the house and Senate, all bets are off at that point because they'll cut his administration in half and and cripple them at the knees.
• 46:23
  Uh they're interesting because the market is a forward-looking mechanism.
• 46:26
  It's a predictive forward-looking mechanism.
• 46:28
  It's always been that way.
• 46:30
  Right.
• 46:30
  And uh the market has been in a pretty tight trading range between, let's say, 45,000 and 46,000, 47,000.
• 46:38
  Um, you know, we hit 50,000 briefly uh uh on the Dow, and the SP has been also uh hanging out around support levels recently.
• 46:48
  So uh, and that's of course pulled along by seven, the magnificent seven companies.
• 46:54
  So on an equal weighted basis, the SP 500 doesn't look so bad.
• 46:58
  Um with the markets holding up the way they are, they're telling us that there's a pathway to victory in the midterms.
• 47:06
  So you so you you you see okay things then?
• 47:09
  You don't see uh anything too brutal.
• 47:11
  I mean, uh barring uh barring a uh a deep entrenchment in Iran with too many boots on the ground and too many casualties, uh, I think there is a there is a pathway.
• 47:23
  If he can get in there swiftly and turn things around and help hand it over to the Iranians, and I know there are challenges, but if he can do that, then uh because economically we're oil independent again.
• 47:37
  We are we have the reserves topped off with uh Venezuelan oil.
• 47:41
  Right, and uh we're we're drilling again, the contracts are open.
• 47:45
  So let me move on.
• 47:47
  I gotta I gotta get uh let me get over to Nate Kane and bring him in on this here.
• 47:50
  I I think when when we say uh when as I'm talking to Bruce here, uh the the patience of the American people, you know, Nate, I'm gonna say this to you, and I I've got again a lot of friends here on both sides of this very heavy debate.
• 48:02
  And I and I'm gonna say to you, I can make I'm gonna make a declarative statement.
• 48:06
  Now you tell me if you think I'm full of it, if you agree with it, you disagree with it, but I don't believe for one moment, I don't believe for one moment that Trump is going to engage in a long war in the Middle East.
• 48:19
  I'll say that again.
• 48:20
  There is no way I believe that this particular president is going to engage in a long war anywhere for that matter, let alone the Middle East with any sort of level of boots on the ground.
• 48:32
  I don't think that is an option on the menu.
• 48:34
  What do you say?
• 48:36
  I would agree with you.
• 48:37
  I think that there is no way that he's gonna do that because uh, for one, uh, he will definitely um it will it will be used against him, you know.
• 48:47
  I mean, that's that's the bottom line.
• 48:49
  Um, and and we don't we don't have to.
• 48:51
  That's the real reason here.
• 48:52
  We don't have to.
• 48:53
  We've we've accomplished or we are very close to accomplishing the mission that was set forth.
• 48:59
  Do I think that in the grand scheme of things that it would be a good thing for us to uh you know help secure a regime change there to help uh secure the Straits of Hormuz to you know allow the free flow of oil.
• 49:13
  I I think that would be a good thing, but I don't think we have to, and because of that, I don't think Trump will.
• 49:19
  Um that said, there's a lot of other things that are going on too that I think give a very positive feel, at least on our side of the hemisphere.
• 49:28
  I mean, look at what's happening in Cuba right now.
• 49:30
  Oh, yeah.
• 49:31
  And all of those things I think are going to be pluses in terms of the psyche of the American people when it comes time to vote.
• 49:38
  Nate, while I got you right there, you'd had a fabulous show and an article on uh Starmer's Shame, Trump's triumph, and Iran's cry for freedom.
• 49:46
  And you're talking about Kira Starmer uh responds to Iran's claim the UK is taking part in aggression by helping US.
• 49:53
  Uh, this was a headline in the in the in the in a UK paper, that particular one there.
• 49:58
  Uh, but that he's uh that.
• 50:00
  Starmer is insisting the UK is not getting dragged into a wider conflict in the Middle East.
• 50:04
  You touched on some of these points in that program you did.
• 50:08
  Stommer is surprising.
• 50:09
  The UK, I think there's been a little damage done with this special so-called my hands are up in quotes, Nate, a special relationship.
• 50:17
  I think there's been some really hard, and I hate to say this, but there's been a little core damage done between the UK and the American relationship.
• 50:25
  How bad is that damage?
• 50:26
  Do you sincerely believe?
• 50:28
  Or is it a nothing thing?
• 50:29
  I think it's significant.
• 50:30
  Um, and I think that actually the damage has been going on for a while, uh, probably even preceded uh uh you know, the the current administration in Britain.
• 50:41
  I think uh we've seen this in NATO.
• 50:44
  I mean, Trump obviously, you know, has come out and and had some pretty interesting things to say.
• 50:49
  Uh just yesterday, he came out on uh true social with saying uh without the U.S.
• 50:54
  NATO is a paper tiger.
• 50:56
  I mean, I don't I don't know how stronger language that he can use to basically say that NATO is worthless.
• 51:03
  Now, some of this may be him, you know, using his his uh art of the deal.
• 51:09
  You know, he he does like to kind of push things uh to an extreme in order to get to the middle where he wants.
• 51:16
  Um, but he's not wrong.
• 51:18
  I mean, NATO has basically shown itself to be a paper tiger.
• 51:21
  Uh, they've been unwilling to uh you know support us and even to really to support themselves when it comes to what is going on.
• 51:29
  I mean, look at what has happened in Britain in terms of the overrun by you know the Islamists, you know, in that's part of it.
• 51:37
  That's part of it.
• 51:37
  Yeah.
• 51:38
  So, and it's not just there, it's in Canada.
• 51:41
  It is in, you know, it's in Australia.
• 51:43
  Yeah.
• 51:43
  I mean, you had the Australian prime minister took a call from Trump to basically put pressure on them to offer asylum to the you know, the football team or the soccer team that was there, uh, that was certainly going to go back and and be uh and uh you know treated wrongly.
• 51:59
  And you know, Nate, that's all over America as well.
• 52:01
  And it's more than just deer-born New York City and Los Angeles.
• 52:04
  Uh George McClellan, one of our brilliant writers here, has an article that uh went up uh late Friday.
• 52:10
  You can go see it, friends.
• 52:11
  Uh Islam in Georgia.
• 52:13
  That's not Georgia in Europe, that's Georgia here and USA.
• 52:17
  Yep, it's here and gaining ground in one of the parks there in Roswell, Georgia.
• 52:22
  They did a whole tribute to Islam with the whole crescent moon and did a whole celebration with the community people kissing everybody's backside and the star and crescent uh in the Islamic tradition, which has some pretty horrific uh anyway.
• 52:36
  So it's all over the place.
• 52:37
  It's all over the place.
• 52:38
  And it's a it's a fight for today's fight.
• 52:40
  Uh pretty pretty bad stuff here.
• 52:42
  Uh Ed Huglin, this uh this uh you have a you had so I need to tell people right now.
• 52:49
  You had just a fantastic article.
• 52:52
  Uh, the cognitive front in the Iran war will be difficult to defeat.
• 52:57
  Now, I want to read something to the American people, and I want you to opine on it, Ed.
• 53:01
  And these are your words now.
• 53:03
  Everybody listen to this, listen to this, because this it's about as well said as one could say this.
• 53:08
  So everybody open your ears up, listen up.
• 53:11
  One challenge is denying disrupted and proactively superseding the global front of propaganda, false images and narratives of Iran, Russia, and China, driving fear, economic reaction, and creating doubt.
• 53:26
  Success could severely diminish resolve amongst Iranians to rise up and seize their country back.
• 53:33
  And really the key there is Iranians to rise up and seize their country back.
• 53:38
  To fight and win on the domestic and global cognitive fronts, advance and sustain our objectives in Iran and in America.
• 53:45
  We must acknowledge the enemy within and respond accordingly.
• 53:50
  You know, and you'll get into some things here, Ed, in this piece.
• 53:53
  Uh, we should go back into history a little bit and talk about the ideology.
• 53:57
  It's a brilliant piece.
• 53:58
  Uh, and you say here, if we fail, we will find peace short-lived and the kinetic fronts expanded.
• 54:07
  Wow.
• 54:08
  Wow, wow.
• 54:09
  So to me, this piece really set the tone for what was going on.
• 54:14
  And uh, for the Iranians to rise up and seize their country back is a piece of this.
• 54:18
  And but cognitively, uh, Iran is brilliant at playing that warfare and the way they do with fear.
• 54:26
  They they they get an A plus in that category.
• 54:29
  That's the enemy we're fighting at, isn't it?
• 54:32
  Yes, but it that you know, people when you take a step back as I do strategically, what you're seeing in the EU, Germany, UK, Australia, and here in the US is all connected.
• 54:44
  This this invasion by Muslim illegals, illegals overall, the using the veil of religion, because the racism term has died.
• 54:52
  Now using the Muslim veil of religion saying you're Islamophobic, that's the new trend now.
• 54:58
  They're all connected.
• 54:59
  And the intent is basically to seize absolute power.
• 55:03
  And so here in America, we're facing that fifth column of the mainstream media, members of the elected members of Congress, okay, and activists and undertaking a siege here that we're seeing they're doing in Iran and other places.
• 55:18
  And the two are connected.
• 55:20
  People have to understand that because otherwise, yes, we will end up in more kinetic wars because if we don't win on the war of ideas, the will of the people and the will of freedom, we will end up having them to feed the tree of liberty with someone's blood.
• 55:34
  Okay.
• 55:34
  All right.
• 55:35
  All right, as we take this broadcast and everything you're hearing right now, friends, and we put this in a package with a pretty pretty bow on the top of it.
• 55:42
  He has that's what we're gonna do right now.
• 55:44
  And how we're gonna do that, Bruce Robertson.
• 55:47
  Let me start with you.
• 55:47
  I want to go right around the room here, please, with everybody.
• 55:50
  Bruce, starting with you.
• 55:52
  You wrote a piece and you did a program on this, and you asked the question.
• 55:55
  I want everybody to step back and think.
• 55:56
  Whether you like Trump, you don't like Trump, whatever.
• 55:59
  It does, I mean, but with everything that's happened historically here and the footprint of what we're dealing with, and somebody who has had you could put a lot of words in here, courage.
• 56:10
  I'm using the word courage, but you could put a lot of words in that space of courage.
• 56:14
  Uh, who would have that uh tenacity uh to be able to do some of the things he's doing on the world stage?
• 56:20
  Uh this is a historic moment, friends.
• 56:22
  This is that kind of a big, big, big moment.
• 56:25
  Only happens once every hundred years in a country, right?
• 56:28
  And here's the thing.
• 56:29
  You had a piece, Bruce, that said, is Donald Trump a genius or a fool?
• 56:34
  We've got to take 30 seconds each, real quick.
• 56:36
  Bruce, start with you.
• 56:37
  Tell me uh in my opinion, in my opinion, he's brilliant.
• 56:42
  Uh he's restructured the world order, and he's on his way to succeeding in that uh endeavor.
• 56:48
  And uh it's a it's a chess game, and he's playing four-dimensional chess, he's not playing checkers.
• 56:54
  And um we'll see.
• 56:56
  I mean, we will see quite soon.
• 56:58
  But it's all been evolving, and you know, to say that he's he's unstructured and undisciplined is foolish because he definitely waved it out.
• 57:11
  All right.
• 57:11
  All right, let me ask the same question to Nate.
• 57:13
  And Nate, you know, and and quite frankly, Nate, he could have played this safe.
• 57:16
  If he was just worried about his legacy or his name or whatever, he could have done what a lot of presidents did, uh, like Bush and others.
• 57:25
  They could have played it safe, no question about it.
• 57:27
  So question to you is Donald Trump a genius or a fool?
• 57:31
  He's a genius and he's a true leader.
• 57:33
  It takes leadership to do the things that he's done, which are absolutely uh necessary to secure peace for our country and safety for our country.
• 57:43
  Ed Huglin, what do you think?
• 57:44
  Is he a genius or a fool?
• 57:46
  Well, he's a genius.
• 57:47
  Look, he was saved by God, and he now serves God because he realizes this is not about TDS.
• 57:53
  This is about freedom.
• 57:54
  This is about evil versus good, and he's on the side of good.
• 57:57
  And he realizes he has one chance while he's still alive, while they still keep him alive to do that.
• 58:04
  Amen.
• 58:05
  That is uh Ed Huglin there, Nate Kane, uh, Bruce Robertson.
• 58:12
  Great, great guys.
• 58:13
  Very just what a great conversation.
• 58:15
  I love to have these kinds of talks.
• 58:17
  They're they're they're cleansing, they cleanse your your palate, you know, in ways that you can't do otherwise here.
• 58:23
  It's good to get it all out there, friends, uh, for sure here.
• 58:26
  Uh privilege to be with you always.
• 58:28
  Thank you for joining me on the mission here.
• 58:30
  It's all back at America Out Loud.news.
• 58:32
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• 58:36
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• 58:57
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