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I'm Tim and I'm joined by my brother John.
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Hello, to make this an easy listener experience if it's your
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a beard, I'm a brunette and I weigh about 197 lbs.
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Wow. Are you bad?
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John, that's a healthy weight. Good job.
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Well, yeah, healthy for me, but BMI says otherwise.
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Really. BMI says I'm obese.
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Well this is very off topic, but BMI is not perfect by any means.
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No, I know, I know. Generally, any way of
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categorizing and ranking people was made to be racist.
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There is some. Truth.
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Ever say something in the podcast and wonder if it's going
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to get cut? Oh no, this is getting cut for
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sure. But I just, I thought it was
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interesting to talk. Who's wondering?
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Wait, what if we fit? Said I was.
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Then that's correct. Sorry, I hate to break it to
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you. We fit to lie.
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OK, well now it has to stay because.
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It depends on how much we talk about.
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We just have to keep talking about this and eventually it
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must stay in the regard. If we keep coming back to this
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joke, that has to keep it all in or else the jokes don't make
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sense. Yeah.
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And. Kylie, I'm making this difficult
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on you. John is 198 lbs. 9797.
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He's. Gaining weight Are you trying to
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Some people are finding our podcast from these things and
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the hits. Anyways, Lastly, we're excited
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Please hit up the poll and vote. I'll try and have links in the
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comments or attached to this episode in some way.
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If people wanted us to watch Spy Hard a second time, is that an
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option? No, because that's such a
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terrible idea that it would somehow win.
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Yeah. We know how it would win John,
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and it's called Boss. All right, and with that, let's
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get into today's episode. Today we are tackling 1991's
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Bucky O'Hare Chance. Who is Bucky O'Hare and what is
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this cartoon about? Bucky, Captain Bucky O'Hare.
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Oh yeah, Bucky O'Hare. He's an alien rabbit from the
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planet Warren who drives a spaceship called the Righteous
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Indignation. I'm going to say a lot of
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slander about this show, but The Righteous Indignation is an
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awesome spaceship name. I'm just going to get that out
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before things really tank from here.
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I mean, he lives in an alternate reality from ours called the
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Anniverse where he and his crew fight the toads, which I think
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are Cap. But honestly, you would assume
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that there's some commentary on the natural world as we know it
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in the modern era, where everything is run by an AI and
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all we are is consumers, doomed to live as it wills and with the
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help of Willie the Wit, a charming young boy from our
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dimension who I. Think is the smartest person in
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the universe? They're able to defeat the
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toads. Willie was taken from our Earth
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and now is helping them. He's coming back and forth
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between the two worlds, helping and also dealing with school
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life. Yeah, it's kind.
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Of like having a secret identity, how Peter Parker has
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to deal with his teenage life on the side.
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It's the same thing for Willie DeWitt, except instead of
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putting on a spider costume, he's teaming up with ducks and
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baboons and cats. And he puts on like the skin of
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an old baboon. Yeah.
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Supposed to be a battle. I think it is armor, but it is.
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Imagine if our astronauts wore space suits that had a perfect
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imprint of their face. John it's not the dead baboon,
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because the dead baboon is sucked into a wormhole, into
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another dimension, and then we never.
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Said he didn't suck his skin. Off that guy got his full blast
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first episode. He vanishes through a wormhole,
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the same wormhole that allows Willie to join the rest of the
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crew. The whole gimmick is that later
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they're supposed to find him, but they didn't have enough show
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for that. Oh, so that was intentional.
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They just couldn't get around to it.
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I think there is an episode where he's supposed to.
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Yeah, so there is an episode where they managed to team up
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with him, communicate with him across the universe, but they
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never rescue him because the show got cancelled before they
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ever got to that story arc. And maybe it's helpful to
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explain who the characters are. Yeah.
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I was going to give a little bit more context, so think of Bucky
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O'Hare, kind of like Star Wars with animals and.
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And Brooks money almost kind of like Starfall.
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Starfox is actually a very good analogy.
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Chances is targeted to you. This show is 321 Penguins.
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No, it is not 321 Penguins is an intentional Star Trek spoof.
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I have a toddler. I've been watching a lot of
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three doing Penguins recently. OK, let's lean into the Star
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Wars Starfox vibe. This show is about an oppressive
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empire, a planet of toads who get controlled by AI and forced
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to try and conquer the rest of the Galaxy.
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And so the rest of the animals, mostly mammals, they try and
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fight back, but there's only one ship of the whole military of
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the rest of the Galaxy, and it's captained by Bucky O'Hare, who's
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as we a rabbit. He has a first mate named Jenny,
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who's a cat, but also like a space witch, kind of like a
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Jedi. And then you have Blinky, who is
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their Android and science officer.
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You've got Bruiser, the Beetlejuician baboon, who's a
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big monkey who is their commando.
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And then Deadeye Duck their daffy duck is their daffy duck.
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Is there pirate weapons? Computer.
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Joke. The joke about calling him Daffy
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Duck is that he is Daffy Duck with four arms and an eye patch.
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I think Daffy Duck comes with a sense of like, oh, he's kind of
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silly. Jedi is just a murderer.
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You guys, Yeah. He seems really prevalent to
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committing heinous crimes. Like Ducky's on the good side,
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but definitely one of those like.
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Hey, we got this. Bad guy to work for us kind of
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vibe. Yeah, he used to be a pirate and
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he joined Bucky's 'cause there are episodes with the pirate
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fleet that we didn't watch. But I mean, give you guys a
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little bit more back story to what Bucky O'Hare is.
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This came out in 1991 and it is not a Ninja Turtles RIP off, but
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wow, you would think so. Like at this time everything was
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a Ninja Turtles RIP off. What animal could mutate?
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OK, let's get Battle Toads front and center.
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Let's get St. Sharks out there.
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Anything that was an animal turned into a human was what we
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went crazy for. But this show was actually
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created by Larry Hama as early as 1974.
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Wow, nobody wanted it, He. Designed these characters way
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before any of us were alive, and he sat on them forever.
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DC Comics had created a program where they would publish
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creators comics and let them keep the rights, but they
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couldn't come to an agreement. And so Bucky O'Hare didn't end
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up in a comic book until 1984, which is actually the same year
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that Eastman and Laird put Ninja Turtles in a comic book for the
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first time. So Bucky O'Hare and his team
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are, it's hard to prove, but probably older than the Ninja
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Turtles. And he had a vision for this
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stuff from the start. If you look at the comic books
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as far back as 1984, the characters all had peg holes in
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their feet. He had planned to make a toy
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line. Wow, all the way back.
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I don't feel like that's something that you need to
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justify in the lore, but OK. And one of the cool things, I
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don't know if you remember this, John, about our toys, all of the
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guns had holes in them and they all had pegs on them so you
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could clip the guns to them. So their outfits were designed
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under this idea that they were always intended to be toys.
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Regardless, Larry Hama is very famous in the comic book
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community. He's famous for a lot of things,
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but the biggest thing that you will ever hear is that all of
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the GI Joe comics were Larry Hama.
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He essentially designed these characters, then instead of
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doing anything with them, he went and worked on GI Joe for
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decades and here he is finally getting to make the characters
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that he designed. Hasbro needed something to
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compete with Playmates because Playmates had Ninja Turtle toys
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on every aisle, so they went all in on his Bucky O'Hare idea.
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So they made the toys the same size as Ninja Turtles so you can
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mix and match them. What do you guys think?
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Does it feel like this could coexist with Ninja Turtles so
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that it could beat Ninja Turtles or this is just feels like a RIP
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off? When I first was like really
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looking at the characters in the show, they look like they are
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art of characters. I would see in a blog post from
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13 years ago saying this is my own OC from this other show.
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They feel like they are somebody's copy.
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They feel like Sonic cartoon OC is for.
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Exactly. Especially Jenny.
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Yeah, You had mentioned before we watched this show that you
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thought it was like the Sonic cartoon.
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Do you still feel that? I don't remember what the
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freedom fighters were like, but I would assume.
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I think anthropomorphic animals, the 80s, it kind of exploded in
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a way that it had never been present before.
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And so I think there's just a lot of properties in the 80s and
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then even in the early 90s where it's all about, hey, we could do
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the show with humans, but why not put animals in their place?
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Dad, you said. Would we have thought that this
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show could compete? And I would say the big thing is
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no. And now don't get me along.
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There are a lot of stuff about this show I really like.
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Theme song is so much fun. I mentioned before Righteous
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Indignation. He's a killer name for a
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spaceship. It's so fun.
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Yeah, I found really having a hard time liking any of the main
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cast, especially Bucky. The show is named after him, but
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man, he's just so nothing. And since he's the front lines,
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he's almost in every scene. You really need him to be a
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strong, likable character. Original Ninja Turtles are
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probably not the best Ninja Turtle cartoon that's ever come
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out, but people still like Leonardo.
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They liked Rafael, Donatello, Michelangelo, each in their own
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way. This show just struggles to have
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any likable characters. Ninja Turtles has had the luxury
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of being interpreted 20 times, and so if we compare just the
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original Bucky O'Hare cartoon with the original Ninja Turtles
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cartoon, it's hard to compare them when we've just gotten to
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see so many more iterations of Ninja Turtles.
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I would agree that I think Bucky O'Hare isn't that interesting to
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watch. He's cool, can do everything.
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I'm much more interested in watching his crew.
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Yeah. Kind of mentioned that Deadeye
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is just Daffy Duck again, but I like it more than most of the
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other characters. Like there's a scene in one of
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the episodes where Deadeye has a moment of like, why should I
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really do this? Because he finds a bunch of cash
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in Willie's bag and he pockets it.
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He's like, I'm a pirate. I guess it's mine now.
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It's a fun moment. If this character actually cares
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about things and has internal conflict, it feels impossible
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for Bucky to have any of that. Yeah, there's this one scene
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where there is a bounty hunter that's trying to trick them and
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then I he's like, oh, I don't think we should trust this guy.
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You're getting a lot of vibes from him that he's suspicious.
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But then the entire crew agrees with him, except for Bucky, and
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Bucky's like, no, you're going to listen to me because what I.
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Say is he's not racist. I'm not.
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So it's like a really weird scene because I don't know who I
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should agree with. Should I agree with Bucky
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because he's not racist? Everybody distrust this guy
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because he is a dinosaur. Because they're racist.
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He's not furry, he's a sleazosaur.
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Yeah, he's a sleazosaur, so his species is known for being
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sleazy. Nobody trust him and you're
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like, OK, so this is like a racism thing.
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And then Bucky is proven to be wrong.
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So it's like, what did we learn? That racism is good?
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Everybody's mad about racism until it turns out to be right.
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Maybe. Sleazy means something else in
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their Galaxy. Maybe that's a good point to
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just talk about the bad guy. Characters.
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So that's where I want to disagree with you.
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Chance I can see how none of the heroic characters of that
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likable, but I have to say that I think the villains in this
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show are great. Toad Borg.
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Toad Borg. What a.
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Fun idea is awesome. When we were watching the first
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episode, I was like, oh, I do not like the villain.
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I felt like the show was listening to me and they were
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like, oh shoot, this villain sucks.
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Time to introduce a new cooler villain.
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And then Toad Borg smashed through the room so.
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For our listeners, Toad Borg is a toad.
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He's been turned into a giant robot, and what's neat about
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this is he has all of the flaws, fears and imperfections of a
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toad, but an impenetrable superhuman body.
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Except for the fact that he doesn't seem to be afraid of
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baboons. No, he doesn't.
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He does. He has a moment in one of the
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episodes where he goes a baboon and he's like, wait a minute,
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no, I'm a super being, I can do this.
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And he goes toe to toe with them.
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So what they're both referring to here for our listeners is in
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the show. Biologically.
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Yeah, the toads are essentially genetically red with this deep
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rooted fear of baboons and. They were like natural
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predators, and then they both evolved to civilized beings.
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Do these creatures have environmental factors from other
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planets? Because there's no way that the
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toads and the baboons are from the same planet.
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They're. Not the baboon on their team is
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a commando. He doesn't actually have to
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fight anybody. Like as soon as the frogs see
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them they go into fight or flight and spoiler alert it's
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always flight. They will throw themselves out
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an airlock to not have to fight the baboon.
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And those types of things make the show interesting.
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That's what I appreciate about this show is the weird stuff
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that I wouldn't have come up with on my own.
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Yeah, I do think it is a very odd show.
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I'm genuinely wondering, like, what does it mean to be
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brainwashed by the AI? Because the toads don't seem to
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be particularly. Driven.
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The villain is complex. It's an AI and in the comic book
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it lobotomizes all of the frogs so they become this mindless
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working army. Too scary for TV?
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But when they brought it over to the cartoon, they decided
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instead that the frogs are all stupid and lazy and he controls
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them through watching TV. Yeah, capitalism.
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Yeah. And.
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As much as that is less scary for TV, I guess it's also a much
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better prediction of humanity. Like I said, no.
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A deeply scary imprint on what our reality has become.
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Yeah, In the past couple years specifically.
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Especially considering the fact that they work for complex
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because they feel like they have to.
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Like that's all the conditioning has done to them.
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It's kind of interesting. There's two toad sidekicks
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called Fricks and Fracks. Every episode you get to watch
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them watch TV and it's some kind of toad propaganda in a
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commercial. It's kind of a fun addition.
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It's not TV. It's advertisements.
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All. Yeah, it's all advertising.
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Exactly. Yeah, it's kind of scary how
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much of our modern media consumption it is anyways.
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I need to talk about the elephant in the room.
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Do we get to guess what the elephant is?
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Oh, sure. There's one thing that growing
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up, it always stuck out to me. Go ahead, John.
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What's your? Guess Jenny the space witch cat
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has the hots for Willie the young boy.
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Yes, that is very uncomfortable. It's going to be something
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around the really smart kid and like the dynamics between him
21:28
and the other people. My guess, I think it's going to
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be voice actor related. It is about Willie DeWitt.
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Willie DeWitt is such an uncommon name.
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I only know of one Willie DeWitt, and if you Google Willie
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DeWitt, there's only one that comes up.
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So either Larry Hama picked this name in a vacuum, or he is named
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after a famous athlete from Grand Prairie, Alberta.
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Oh, huh. Really.
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Yes. So for context, Willie De Witt
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was a boxer that came from Grand Prairie.
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He competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics.
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He got silver in the heavyweight class.
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Now he's a lawyer who lives in Calgary.
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There is a street named after him in Grand Prairie.
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It's where the old leisure center was.
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Yeah, over in the Avondale area. How?
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Did I think about it? The name is familiar.
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Willie De Witt Drive, I believe, is what it's called, Yeah.
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Huh. That has bugged me my whole
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life. Could he have made-up a name at
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random? I thought it was always a pun.
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I thought the idea was that he was Willie the wit, as in the
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smart guy. That's what I always thought he
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got. DeWitt.
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The idea he got DeWitt such a weird thing to.
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Really. I thought that's what it was.
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Did you find out if there was any connection?
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Did you ask our friendly AI complex?
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No, we are not inviting complex onto this podcast.
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Our next guest complex. It's going to brainwash that.
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Complex is the big bad boss. Who's the AI in this story?
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I'm sure someone's made an AI model called Complex.
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At this point I would switch to that AI if someone made it.
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Knowing full well that it's out to brainwash you.
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Yeah, they could program the AI to slightly try and make
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everything about toads, yeah. Well, they don't even need to
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try that for ChatGPT. What do you like of my new
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outfit? I totally love it.
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Not enough warts if you ask them.
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They need to throw a toad pad in every reply.
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Have you heard about Chachi BT's goblin issue?
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In Chachi BT's list of demands it says unless it is strictly
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related to the conversation, please do not bring up goblins,
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gremlins, trolls, ogres, or raccoons.
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Chachi BT will just constantly talk about goblins as much as
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possible because it's mentioned in the code by name, which is
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such a funny thing. Because it was told specifically
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not to mention that it's like one of those you're not allowed
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to open the cookie jar. It's like, well now I want.
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I don't think about pink elephants.
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Yeah, well. Now I got to talk about goblins.
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Don't think about pink elephants.
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Well now I got to talk about goblins.
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Felt cute. Might get brainwashed later.
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According to the Open AI website, it's because their
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nerdy personality for the AI was like doing a feedback loop where
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it was rewarding itself for bringing up weird and niche
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topics, and those weird and niche topics always lended
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towards being goblins. Yeah, it's very weird.
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Goblin feedback loop is so funny to me.
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Chance you brought up voice actors?
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Well, this has a fairly large cast of recognizables.
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There's one voice that sticks out to me more than the rest,
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and that's Dead Eyed Duck because that's played by Scott
25:18
McNeil and his voice is very similar in most things that he
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does. You could imagine Dead Eyed Duck
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and hear Piccolo from Dragon Ball Z talking and you'd be like
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oh that's the same guy. Or we watched Beast Wars for
25:40
this show. That's clearly rat trap and
25:43
Dinobot. Exactly.
25:44
So he has a very iconic voice. So the way that really got into
25:51
the anniverse is because he made a particle accelerator in his
25:56
bedroom. Drive or something like that.
25:59
But sound like. He also wrote a goodbye to his
26:02
parents like. He knew he was going to die.
26:07
So I might. Make a black hole in my bedroom
26:10
tonight if you never see me again, that's why.
26:15
Well, it sounds like his parents are pretty proud of him.
26:17
Even the bullies are proud of him.
26:20
I didn't really get the sense that Willie was well thought
26:24
out. He is, like someone mentioned
26:27
earlier, the smartest human being ever.
26:29
He can fix any problem that's scientific based or
26:32
technological, and he gets taken into this universe of animals
26:38
and is not shocked at all. He's like, Oh my.
26:42
He's like, Oh yeah, like just another average day.
26:44
Sometimes he's like, well, that's cool, but like, that's as
26:47
far as it gets. He's like, I can hear you
26:50
through this rock. Isn't that crazy?
26:52
OK Anyways. Does anybody else know you can
26:55
speak through people? Through rocks?
26:56
No. OK.
26:59
Yeah, so he doesn't really make a lot of sense.
27:01
And then as a kid, you're supposed to relate to Willie
27:04
because he'll be going through some kind of experience at
27:07
school, like a girl's flirting with them so she can cheat from
27:10
his homework or. And the.
27:12
Answer is to be the smartest person in the.
27:14
Room reality's reality. Reality is reality.
27:19
Oh my. God.
27:20
OK, so for context, this girl is asking him out and doing it
27:25
because she wants his test answers according to the other
27:28
people in the room in the show. And she's like, if you give me
27:32
those test answers, I'll go on a date with you.
27:35
And he's like, I'm not interested.
27:37
Reality is reality. No, he doesn't even say I'm not
27:40
interested. He opens with reality, is
27:43
reality, and then that's it. I think it's important to give a
27:46
bit of context. This is an episode where we see
27:50
early on that he's being taken advantage of this girl in our
27:53
world, but then he goes to the Anniverse where he learns that
27:57
the toads are wearing these goggles that prevent them from
28:00
being scared of the baboons. And so to win the fight, they
28:03
have to get the goggles off the toads.
28:05
They beat the toads by making them face rally.
28:08
That is the loose thread by which Willie then goes back to
28:12
the whole world and decides that now he's taking the goggles off
28:17
metaphorically, and he can see what's happening for what it
28:21
really is. It was a really poorly done
28:24
moral message. I think you mean an amazingly.
28:28
Done. This is like if he came back and
28:31
he was like, I'm sorry, I'm taking the red pill.
28:35
I know what's real. I'm taking the goggles off.
28:42
Taking. The goggles off.
28:45
Reality is Reality is like my favorite quote from the show,
28:49
but I just don't know how a person could put it into any
28:53
sentence I've heard. Well, it can be a callback.
28:56
For what episode? For future episodes, you can say
29:01
it at the end. That's true.
29:03
He has a point. Just.
29:04
For us, yeah, but you can see how it's hard to relate to this
29:10
kid because. All the girls want him.
29:15
That's also true. You've got a space witch cat who
29:18
likes him. You've got the girl who's
29:21
cheating off his test. And every female character we
29:25
meet except for the fox. We don't know if Bruiser Baboons
29:28
mom is. So there is this fun episode,
29:34
the one with the goggles, where we get to go to the baboon
29:37
homeworld Beetlejuicia. And it's funny because you get
29:41
the impression that the voice actor who voices our main baboon
29:46
character has now been given the task to voice.
29:49
Everybody. Mom baboon, the random baboon.
29:52
The farmer baboon. So and Willie sometimes, yes,
29:55
that's what I was going to say. Farmer baboon there's. 1.
29:59
Scene The guys say that they're war crap.
30:01
Yeah, your cry is. And then he's like, I'm pretty
30:07
sure Willie could do this. Isn't that right?
30:09
Really. Really.
30:10
He's like, oh Gee, sure, I can try.
30:16
Same audio clip, there's no difference.
30:18
It's so funny. So when choosing episodes for
30:21
this I chose the first arc of the show, 4 episodes, and Chance
30:25
said the episode that he had the most memory of was this baboon
30:30
episode so I threw that in too. Honestly, it was a pretty great
30:34
addition Chance. Yeah, it might have been the
30:36
best episode. Thank you, thank you.
30:38
I don't want the audience to know this is my memory of Bucky.
30:41
O'Hare was the Iyuga berserker Babu.
30:45
The reality is reality, episode reality is reality.
30:50
What was it like going back to that chance?
30:53
I think. I had a similar experience to
30:56
what I did with. Silverhawks where I think the.
30:59
Theme song for this show kills. It's so fun.
31:01
But then watching that episode like a show is so bad.
31:05
You guys, it's terrible. There are very few redeeming
31:08
qualities. What are you talking about the
31:11
episode with Mimi where they're building parts for the Super and
31:16
or RIP that off like 20 years later?
31:21
And sometimes the lesson is that racism is good, I don't think.
31:24
Sonic the Hedgehog would teach you that.
31:28
Suck it, Sonic. So like, we teach the real
31:31
lesson. People haven't watched Bucky
31:33
O'Hare and they're gonna go and watch it after listening to
31:37
this. The episodes that we
31:38
specifically watched were episode 1, episode 2, episode 3,
31:44
episode 4, and episode 12. So we watched 5 episodes.
31:49
I want to talk a little bit about the toys because it's
31:54
actually wild how many of the toys we owned growing up.
31:59
We pretty much had them all. So I've got a little something
32:04
for everyone in the Discord chat.
32:09
Listeners, sorry you don't get to see any of this so.
32:16
How many Bucky O'Hare toys you can spot?
32:18
OK, that's deadeye, duck and Bucky.
32:21
OK. There's one more.
32:23
Oh yeah, yeah, that's Willy there in the bottom center.
32:25
Yeah, Oh, it is Willy. We had Toad, Borg, we had
32:30
Blinky, we had the frog ships, and it had an ability that it
32:37
croaked whenever you moved the ship.
32:40
It's kind of like those little toys where it's like when you
32:44
whip it around. Instead of it.
32:47
Weird sticks get. Croaked.
32:49
Yeah, super cool toys. We didn't have the good guy ship
32:54
though. Whatever was called the the Toad
32:56
Stomper or the Toads. I think it's the toad croaker.
33:00
Toad Croaker. That's right.
33:01
Yeah. We didn't have that, though.
33:02
They never made a righteous indignation.
33:05
There are toy designs out in the wild.
33:09
They made a different ship first.
33:11
The little ship that comes out. OK.
33:14
Chance and Kyle, and I'm gonna need you to describe what shows
33:18
up on Discord next. OK.
33:20
Oh. Boy, oh, I can't describe this.
33:26
I did not remember that, John. It's so garbage.
33:34
No, no, no, I just mean like it is junkyard, like the ski
33:38
goggles. So what John just added to the
33:44
chat is me in a Bucky O'Hare Halloween costume, and it caught
33:50
me off guard there. For me, I've got those like
33:54
dishwashing gloves off. There's like a yellow ribbon
33:59
around your neck. Are those two pieces of
34:02
cardboard? He's not teeth.
34:05
Wow, what are the what? A great image.
34:08
So if we're wondering if the costume was complete.
34:15
You guys are just jealous. Of what?
34:19
So he's got a little Bunny tail on the back.
34:22
This. Has to be on the cover of his
34:25
episode, yeah. Just look at the cover if you're
34:29
curious, it's somewhere on here. It's incredible.
34:33
Why thank? You.
34:34
I guess Tim, this brings us back to your childhood.
34:38
Help us understand what Bucky O'hair meant to you as a kid and
34:42
also what it was like re watching.
34:44
What he looked like in your mind.
34:46
To make. You make those costumes.
34:48
I got to remind everyone the threshold for good Halloween
34:52
costumes when I was younger was much lower.
34:57
If you could scrap together some cardboard, that was a prime
35:00
costume. But you have hit on something,
35:03
John. I've thought a lot about Bucky
35:06
O'Hare. I have talked about it on the
35:08
podcast. I'm not a toy collector, but I
35:11
do own some toys as an adult. They are strictly contained to
35:17
the Silver Hawks cartoon that I watched in my formative years.
35:22
Those are the only toys I have because I have that weird tie to
35:26
something that brainwashed me when I was like 3 or 4 years
35:29
old. That said, I did fall down a
35:32
rabbit hole half a year ago or so and I almost bought some
35:38
Bucky O'Hare toys. I don't know if it's because
35:41
it's more niche than Ninja Turtles.
35:44
You know, Transformers, GI Joe, He Man, Ninja Turtles.
35:47
These things impacted everyone and if I had to name 1 property
35:53
that affected my childhood the most, it's probably Ninja
35:56
Turtles. But that's kind of true for
35:58
everyone, so that might be why I gravitate more towards these
36:03
things that are less popular. I honestly don't know.
36:06
These things that suck. In other words, hipster.
36:11
Yes, I'm a green hipster Bunny. That explains it.
36:16
I love comparing it to the clown outfit too, because it's so much
36:20
higher quality. Why?
36:22
Thank you. Yeah.
36:23
OK, that's what I meant. Sure.
36:26
For our listeners, John is currently dressed as a clown in
36:28
this picture. Currently.
36:31
You can imagine. Whatever clown you like, it's
36:32
worse. Yes, so as a reminder, John is 6
36:36
foot two and a half, 197 lbs, has a beard.
36:41
Wearing a clown. Outfit.
36:43
How many pounds A. 197 OK, lost that weight during this call.
36:48
Yeah. And I'm proud of you for it,
36:50
John. Tim, what was it like re
36:54
watching a show? Was it as you remembered it?
36:57
Like I said, chance is right. Most of the heroic characters
37:01
are not very likable in this show.
37:03
So when I was watching it, I was watching it more from this
37:08
adults perspective, trying to solve these puzzles that had
37:12
bothered me for the last 40 years.
37:14
Like who is Willie DeWitt? Is he named after a person from
37:18
our hometown? What are the chances of that?
37:22
It's not possible, right? But I still don't have answers.
37:25
So until the day where I meet Larry Hama, I don't know if I
37:30
ever will. Maybe that's a new life goal.
37:33
Maybe I need to meet Larry Hama to ask him.
37:36
I just feel like that's probably easy, like with the Internet you
37:39
could probably just tweet or X him or whatever.
37:41
Oh well, the guy who showed up without any AI plans.
37:46
It's telling me how easy it is to get a hold of.
37:49
He was too busy looking at pictures from 1991.
37:54
It was a magical year for Halloween costume.
37:57
All right. Should we kick it over to
37:58
closing? Yeah, I mean, first, before we
38:01
do, I have one more quote from the movie.
38:03
The toads are changing the weather on these planets to make
38:06
them more toad habitable, and there's this line that they've
38:09
turned Warren into a sticky, icky grangy mangy swamp.
38:15
I think that speaks a rinse off. Can we talk about how unkind
38:18
they are in their words towards toads?
38:21
They'll call them things like tadpoles or fly sucking, slimy
38:26
croaking piece of toad. Wow, that last one is bad.
38:30
Hurtful. Even.
38:31
Yeah. I mean, I think it's a little
38:34
bit justified when they're trying to take over the entire
38:37
universe. No one's ever called you a
38:39
chicken eating pasty piece of human.
38:44
Wow. Wow, I feel like chicken is kind
38:48
of an insult actually. Vega Chicken Eater.
38:52
Yeah. Chicken nugget.
38:54
All right? I mean, chances talk pretty
38:57
openly that he loves this show. It's true.
39:00
I do. Talk about that in closing, or
39:03
tell us what your rating would be.
39:06
This is probably going to be a two.
39:09
There are worse things you could spend your time watching.
39:12
Aren't that many worst things, you know?
39:15
It's pretty egregious. That being said, there are parts
39:18
that I had fun with and that's good enough for A2I.
39:21
Promised that this was the most approachable episode for
39:24
newcomers. So chance of scale is a scale of
39:29
-5 to +5, and low numbers like 1 or -1 are actually the worst
39:38
scores you can get a 0. Is closer to middle the worse it
39:42
is. Yeah, A -, 5 is terrible movie,
39:46
but in the best ways. A + 5 is just an amazing movie.
39:50
So if you were to watch a -5 movie, it would be bad, but you
39:56
would have a great time. So a 2 is a passable experience.
40:02
It's not a good experience, but. It could be worse.
40:05
Yeah, it could be worse. Anything else you want to say
40:08
there chance? If there is anyone thing like
40:11
this, seems like fun, maybe I should watch this show.
40:13
I would invite you to watch the theme song and nothing else.
40:16
You will leave happy. Wow, trying to keep people away
40:20
from my father's nostalgia. That's right, I'm hoarding it.
40:25
If everyone gets into Bucky O'Hare, then Tim isn't
40:27
interesting. That's right.
40:29
Oh, what? A2 TV show?
40:32
All right, John, what do you want to say about this show?
40:35
Yeah, it's interesting that you make the comparison to
40:38
Silverhawks. Both shows for me, because they
40:41
were so important to you. I was just kind of born into
40:46
really being into them. We didn't have channels on our
40:49
TV that let us watch these kind of things, so we relied on
40:53
owning one VHS. You'd rent the other VHS's
40:57
because each VHS has like 2 episodes on it or whatever, so
41:00
you'd eventually get to watch all the episodes and just
41:03
because we had all the toys. It was a big part of my
41:06
childhood so I am completely blind with nostalgia.
41:10
Oh wow. Yeah, I'd be OK to watch the
41:13
rest of the episodes. I'm sure that if I watch a show
41:18
from the early 90s that was this quality, but not Bucky O'Hare,
41:22
and I hadn't seen it before, I probably wouldn't want to watch
41:25
more than an episode. But because it's Bucky O'Hare,
41:28
I'm like, give it to me. Well, I think.
41:30
That it's got some interesting adult undertones as well, like
41:35
racism. Like Racism Center.
41:40
Yeah, no, I. Was over tone.
41:42
Like there's bureaucracy too. Bucky O'Hare wants to fight back
41:47
against the toads, but all of the leadership of the Free
41:52
Peoples are like that. Money needs to go to other
41:56
things. We can't afford to build
41:59
warships. Prove to us that the toads are a
42:01
threat. So it's Bucky O'Hare.
42:03
Versus the forces of low income military, we're not willing to
42:08
build more of what you need. I just find it interesting.
42:12
I don't think I know of any other kids cartoon that tried to
42:16
rile us up against politicians. Like give Bucky more weapons,
42:21
Captain. Planet.
42:23
No, the opposite Captain Planet. They don't like war.
42:26
Bucky's like, I want to go to war and as kids were like.
42:29
Yeah, you need to draft the people of Warren.
42:36
All right, Jon, did you want to add anything other than Blinded
42:39
by Nostalgia? I do think that for a concept
42:43
that was made in the 70s, it is pretty impressive.
42:48
Regardless of however the show executed it, the concept of the
42:51
characters, how they look, and the world that was created is a
42:55
really cool one. I'm a huge fan and Toad Borg is
42:58
just the flippin coolest bad guy ever.
43:01
Like when he shows up and just beats them all up I'm like yes
43:04
because I feel like in 90s shows the villains are never really
43:08
that strong. Yeah, we love a good bad guy
43:10
win. Yeah, And so when you actually
43:13
fear the bad guy and you're like, how on earth could the
43:16
good guys ever beat him? That was a cool memory I had of
43:19
Toad Borg as a kid. That's why we had to break our
43:22
toad Borg's thumb off. Yeah, so that they'd.
43:25
Have too powerful. My turn.
43:26
Sure, go for it. When we were first watching this
43:29
show, I thought that the version that we were watching had some
43:32
like really weird commercial breaks.
43:35
But the longer I watched the show, the more I realized the
43:38
pacing is real bad. They go from one thing to
43:42
another in no time at all. I have a scene here that I wrote
43:45
down because of how bad it felt. They land down on Warren and
43:49
it's a swamp now and they're like, it's almost like they've
43:52
used some kind of climate changing technology.
43:55
Hey look, it's an audio. Recording.
43:57
We just set up the climate changing technology and we are
44:00
leaving now. OK, why was that something that
44:04
needed to be? There.
44:05
Yes, this movie moves at a breakneck pace.
44:09
All in all, not great. I would fix the pacing and fix
44:14
the characters. Just make them interesting.
44:17
I think that those two are mandatory.
44:18
It's a new season, would you like to go back?
44:22
Up with a new. Go back to cook.
44:25
So my cookie is cookie trap. Wallpaper return of the cookie.
44:29
My cookie is cookie trap wallpaper, just so you know.
44:32
I don't know what that means. I had thought this up before you
44:36
asked me by oh, there is an advertisement where they are
44:40
selling flytrap wallpaper so that the flies get stuck to your
44:44
wall and you can snack on them. So when the cookie monster, when
44:48
the cookies are flying around your house, they'll get stuck on
44:51
the walls and then you can eat the cookies off the walls.
44:54
Oh, you're chopping the cookies on the wall?
44:56
Yeah. I thought you were baiting
44:58
people with the cookies. OK.
45:02
I've not understood a single thing with three set.
45:05
Well, I love that we brought cookies back.
45:07
I'm here. For it.
45:08
You're welcome. This is the most approachable
45:10
episode and nobody knows what I just said.
45:14
Including, can you explain the metaphor of the cookies sticking
45:18
to the? Fact that when I said it was a
45:20
DVD, it's not edible, therefore it's a DVD.
45:23
Yeah. So it's a trap.
45:27
The show is a trap. It pulls you in like an angler
45:30
fish and then it eats you. So in the same way that a cookie
45:33
gets stuck to the wall and then it gets eaten, we are the cookie
45:37
in this case. For me I agree with what John
45:40
said, this whole concept was really far ahead of its time and
45:46
the show gets weird. They team up with an octopus spy
45:51
you guys didn't see but dog stars Gunner like Deadeye is a
45:55
bumblebee that has a gun for a Stinger.
45:58
And it was. Really impractical.
46:01
How would you use that? You can't face the people that
46:04
you're shooting. And I just think like, what's
46:07
the rules for animal this world? I What's the?
46:10
Deal. Man, it's all super weird you.
46:14
Born with a gun in your. Finger but like I said, I'm here
46:18
for the I got it medically removed.
46:20
Why I think that those are the things that interest me most
46:25
about cartoons as an adult, people who took weird chances.
46:29
I thank you, Larry Hama, if you ever listen to this podcast.
46:33
Which we know that you. Are.
46:35
Yeah, yeah. What if our regular listeners
46:38
Larry Hama. We know he's tuned into Grand
46:40
Prairie in the surrounding area, so.
46:42
That's right. That's what I was gonna say is
46:44
when you get a chance, please e-mail us at bullypod@gmail.com
46:48
and let us know how big of a fan you are of the Grand Prairie
46:52
boxer Willie DeWitt. This show does tackle weird
46:57
politics. I cannot honestly recommend it
47:01
to anyone, but I still can you. Recommend it to your future
47:05
self. Future self would watch this
47:08
over another lamb before time, any day of the week.
47:13
Well, that wasn't part of the question.
47:14
Well, that's who John is. Gaslit future self into watching
47:19
SO. You're both to the same day.
47:23
Watch Lamb before time. No, no, no, please watch Bucky
47:26
O'Hare. Speaking of future episodes, our
47:30
next episode that we're coming back with for people who want to
47:34
watch and TuneIn alongside us is D2, The Mighty Ducks sequel.
47:42
Yep. Does anybody have any spoilers
47:45
that they want to talk about before we rewatch that movie?
47:49
Spoiler I'm not excited. Have you ever watched?
47:52
You have forced me to watch something Mighty Ducks related.
47:55
OK, I remember one day I made Chance watch the Mighty Ducks
48:00
movies and he actually really enjoyed them and so we ended up
48:05
watching all of them. What do you remember Chance?
48:08
Almost. Nothing, if I'm being honest.
48:10
If I remember correctly, it's like, oh, it's a sports team,
48:13
but these are like the worst sports team people.
48:16
It's an underdog, an underdog. That's like the thing that you
48:23
do on a Swing set when you run underneath.
48:26
It that is what that is called. That is actually what that is
48:28
called. Wow.
48:29
Yes, and if everyone noticed, it is another sequel movie.
48:33
We grew up with Mighty Ducks 2, not Mighty Ducks one.
48:37
Yes, and we'll get more into it on our next episode.
48:41
I watched all of those movies many times, but as John
48:45
mentioned, our parents only ever bought the second movie which.
48:50
If her number is better, obviously, why would you buy the
48:54
movie? With all movies only go up in
48:55
quality. Yeah, I'll tell you, buy.
48:57
The movie without a #1 when you could buy one with the number on
49:00
it, it's just a bonus. You can find it on Disney Plus.
49:03
Oh yes, they tried to do a TV show on Disney Plus.
49:07
As a reminder to everyone before we close as well, please look
49:11
for the poll either in the description in the comments or
49:16
attached to this episode wherever you tune in.
49:19
And I have a dark confession to make everyone I've been.
49:26
Did we get to guess what it is? OK, fine.
49:30
Guess what it is. There's zero percent chance you
49:33
guess what it is. It has something to do with one
49:36
of our callbacks. Is it a reveal that you lied
49:39
about a callback being in a movie?
49:41
So after all this time I was looking through some old footage
49:47
to put in a TikTok and I was watching the first episode of
49:52
the Odyssey. Oh no, it's not even lookout for
49:56
weirdos, is it? It's not.
49:58
What is it? It's a watch, weirdos.
50:02
It's. What?
50:03
Watch out for weirdos. So that's so funny, honestly.
50:08
Our callback that started it all.
50:11
All of our callbacks are built on the lookout for weirdos.
50:15
And this is how we end every episode of the show.
50:18
And it's incorrect. That's so funny, the.
50:21
Fact we have ever said is wrong. So I think we just lean into it
50:27
and we keep saying lookout for Weirdos.
50:29
It rolls out a lot. Yes, you have been living a lot,
50:34
so sorry to burst people's bubbles.
50:37
But, you know, if it makes it any better, we made-up lookout
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for Weirdos we just didn't realize at the time.
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Tim, sometimes you just have to accept that reality is reality.
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Reality is reality. You're taking those nicotine
50:50
colored goggles off. All right, Anything anybody
50:54
wants to say in closing, don't. Forget to breathe.
50:58
Braised Beethoven out. Grandma.
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Something something the sun is shining, but the ice is
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slippery. Hey, you got it.
51:09
I think that might be the first time I've ever said that fully.
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We're going to make reality is reality.
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A reoccurring thing I. Don't think we plan it.
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I think it's organic. Yeah, I think reality is reality
51:19
is going to come back guaranteed, but we don't know if
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it's going to be a call back. This doesn't sound like podcast
51:26
talk anymore. This sounds like shock talk.
51:28
This sounds like, you know, it does sound like podcast talk,
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Logan. All right, Are we ending this
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thing? This is the most approachable.
51:40
This is psychotic. I just want to point out the
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fact that we have every episode ends with about two minutes of
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just referencing previous episodes.
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Is so approachable. Yeah, the fact that we devolve
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as. Soon, as we say.
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Before this is gonna end. And we all love referential
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humor, as we all know. We all know we love that stuff.
52:04
Yeah, so it makes sense. Oh, you want to vote for us to
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watch Spy Hard again? Too bad I'm already re watching
52:12
it every night before bed. Joke's on you.
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All right. I guess that's it.
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Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening.