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Bills stun Ravens, Packers beat Lions, Rodgers balls out vs. Jets | 09.08 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: a hater. You know what time it is. NFL football
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  Speaker 1: is back. Baby, look, understand, I am one of these
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  Speaker 1: people that's a little bit disheartened about how this country
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  Speaker 1: has just become football all the time. It's like it's
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  Speaker 1: the only sport that we care about. I think you
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  Speaker 1: guys look like fucking morons when y'all be sitting around
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  Speaker 1: watching that fake football, that preseason football, right? And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you be betting on it. You watch the Pro Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. Week one, man, I went over
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  Speaker 1: to my buddy Nick's house. He got like five, six
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  Speaker 1: games on. We over there posted up. eating wangs baby
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  Speaker 1: it was a great time i i i have to
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  Speaker 1: say i was i was kind of thrilled that we
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  Speaker 1: got this football back right i don't even necessarily know
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  Speaker 1: what it is that you do with the football you
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  Speaker 1: know nick you might need to pull up one day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah i mean i i've i've seen i've been
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  Speaker 2: to football at nick's house he is uh he's locked
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  Speaker 2: in for 10 hours he's not moving.
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  Speaker 1: He's locked in for 10 hours. And I have to
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  Speaker 1: tell you, this is the first time it was so
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  Speaker 1: much going on. Like, normally I can find the game
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  Speaker 1: I care about, lock in, and go from there, right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I like watching football with Nick, one, because it makes
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  Speaker 1: it better for coming on this show because he knows
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  Speaker 1: a zillion things. We're having conversation. Like, we're giving ourselves
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  Speaker 1: things to think about. Yeah, it's basically it, right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's a really cool thing to be able to go
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  Speaker 1: back and forth with him about what's going on because
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  Speaker 1: he knows so much at all times because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he'd be putting money on stuff. It takes you to
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  Speaker 1: a different place in terms of watching the game. But
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  Speaker 1: there were actually enough interesting games early that it was difficult.
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  Speaker 1: But the game that we got to, obviously, it was
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  Speaker 1: all a buildup for Ravens and Bills on Sunday night. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Ravens and Bills, for the last few years, a game
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  Speaker 1: like that, it's been.
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  Speaker 3: The consolation bracket, right?
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  Speaker 1: And not really in a bad way, but it's been
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  Speaker 1: the consolation bracket, right? Like, it's kind of who gonna
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  Speaker 1: finish second to Usain Bolt in the 100-meter final at
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics. That's just what it's been. It's been the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs and then everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes pulling up to the three-point contest like Larry Bird.
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  Speaker 2: Who wants to come in second?
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes throwing some pass behind his back, over his shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: then just walking out, pointing his finger to the sky
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  Speaker 1: because you know that thing is going in. That's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what it's been for these years. Last night was different.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about part of why it was different
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  Speaker 1: coming up in a little bit. But this matchup does
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  Speaker 1: not feel like the consolation bracket. anymore right like this
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  Speaker 1: feels like a different kind of battle this is every
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  Speaker 1: year feels like the best chance for whatever team is
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  Speaker 1: not the Chiefs now obviously um the Ravens having that
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  Speaker 1: chance to beat the Chiefs at home uh in 2023
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  Speaker 1: January 2024 and they did not win it that one
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  Speaker 1: really felt like their best chance and that they just
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  Speaker 1: gave it up like they had the game At the crib,
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  Speaker 1: which up to that point, Patrick Mahomes ain't playing no
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  Speaker 1: games on the road before that season, right? They had
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  Speaker 1: the game at the crib. And it wasn't that same year.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't Buffalo have Kansas City at the crib run and
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  Speaker 1: then they lost that one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was the year they went 11-6 when
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  Speaker 2: the receivers were all double agents.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so he went to everybody's house and was just like,
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  Speaker 1: not yet, fellas. Not yet. Like, y'all think this is
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  Speaker 1: y'all's chance. This isn't y'all's chance. And then they walked through. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a game I don't feel like where
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  Speaker 1: you come out of it talking about one quarterback won
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  Speaker 1: and one quarterback lost. Now, obviously, Josh Allen in that
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  Speaker 1: 16-point run they put on at the end was just unreal.
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  Speaker 4: Just.
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  Speaker 1: big old... I just don't know. I'm trying not to
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  Speaker 1: use curse words, but that's all... The problem with trying
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  Speaker 1: to describe Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 2: That big MF-er?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. That's all I have is some form of that, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's not even just that it's curse words. It's the
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  Speaker 1: big dollar ones that you can't... But that's all you
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  Speaker 1: can do with a dude that big throwing the ball
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  Speaker 1: like that, and he was putting it right on the
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  Speaker 1: dot for this Cats fan. Like, it was... And in a...
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  Speaker 1: We got to get it right now. This is our chance.
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  Speaker 1: This is all we got.
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  Speaker 2: And they.
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  Speaker 1: I mean... They should not have won that game. Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: lost it, but they won it. Like the drives that
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  Speaker 1: they were running, Baltimore's defense is going to have to
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  Speaker 1: be a little something different, obviously, than it was. And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense is also going to need to be a
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  Speaker 1: little something different than it was. But that was the
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  Speaker 1: big fella. You know what he is? Here's what he is, right?
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  Speaker 1: He's a big old galoop. That's a big galoot. The
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  Speaker 1: problem is when he talks, he doesn't sound stupid. Like
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  Speaker 1: you think of a galoot is kind of big and stupid,
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  Speaker 1: but he is. That's what we need to start calling
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen because he doesn't really have a nickname yet, right? No.
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  Speaker 1: What if we just say the big galoot? When's the
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  Speaker 1: last time we called somebody a galoot?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know they were still making galoots.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, no. They're clearly still making them. We just
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  Speaker 1: began to identify them as something else. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know they made Datsuns anymore.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're called Nissans now.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's all that is. Got it. The big loop
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  Speaker 1: was moving down the field and making that happen. Look,
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore had a game where Lamar Jackson averaged 11 yards
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  Speaker 1: in attempt through two touchdowns, ran for 70 yards in
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  Speaker 1: another touchdown. Derrick Henry ran for 170 yards. Your team
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  Speaker 1: ran for 240 yards and your quarterback played well. and
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  Speaker 1: you stopped the run and you lost. Hey guys, there's
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  Speaker 1: really only one place for you to look under those
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  Speaker 1: circumstances and that place is the dude with the headphones on.
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  Speaker 1: Have a factoid here that Ryan has put in our
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  Speaker 1: document for you guys to know. John Harbaugh in his
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  Speaker 1: coaching career has blown 17 second-half double-digit leads.
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  Speaker 4: 17.
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  Speaker 1: That is the most by any coach since at least 1991,
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  Speaker 1: because they ain't been counting, but for so long. Now,
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  Speaker 1: part of that, of course, is a function of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that John Harbaugh has been coaching literally since the
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  Speaker 1: Bush administration. The second Bush, just, you know, don't you
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  Speaker 1: think we're being unfair? but he'd been out there since
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  Speaker 1: the Bush administration. Some of y'all don't even want to
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  Speaker 1: think about what it was like when he was the.
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  Speaker 3: Coach, because they was putting you out of your house.
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  Speaker 3: Was that too far?
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  Speaker 1: Did I take it into tragedy at that point? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan ain't even jumping in to say nothing about it.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about what my wife was like when
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  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh started coaching.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if he was driving down the street
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  Speaker 1: and being like, damn, they're not going to finish building
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  Speaker 1: that house? They're just going to stop in the middle, huh? Shit. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But he's been there for a long time. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, I do think he has been shielded
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  Speaker 1: by the presence of Lamar Jackson. in times and ways
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  Speaker 1: that very often when a team like this has not
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  Speaker 1: gotten to the Super Bowl over this time period and
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  Speaker 1: they have the quarterback, you get a new coach. Like
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  Speaker 1: that by now ordinarily would have happened. We are now
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  Speaker 1: in year eight of the Lamar Jackson experience. Keeping in mind,
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  Speaker 1: they was going to cut bait with Harbaugh in 2018
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  Speaker 1: until Lamar Jackson came in and saved his job, right?
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  Speaker 1: They look tight.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do I think you can blame Harbaugh for, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back Derrick Henry fumbling when he did?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think that you can put that on
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  Speaker 3: the coach.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Derrick Henry, I know you've
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  Speaker 1: probably seen this number from somebody else. I know you
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  Speaker 1: may have seen somebody else make this point, but Derrick
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  Speaker 1: Henry last season had the sneakiest all-time great season that
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  Speaker 1: I think an NFL player has ever had. Because Saquon
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  Speaker 1: Barkley had all those yards. Did you know Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 1: ran for 1,900 yards last year?
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  Speaker 2: I did not. Last night, he got into the top
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  Speaker 2: five all-time rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And a stat that was also going around is he
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  Speaker 2: still hasn't rushed for more yards than he did in
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  Speaker 2: high school. I've seen that number going around because he
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  Speaker 2: has like 12,000 high school rushing yards.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody stealing a check quite like Derrick Henry's high
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  Speaker 1: school coach. They wouldn't watch no film. They wouldn't cook
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  Speaker 1: it up.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: What are we going to do today? I don't know, guys.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Maybe we could just give the
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  Speaker 1: ball to Derek again.
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  Speaker 2: He's sneaky. He's sneaky become like the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar of
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  Speaker 2: running backs.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Like a dominant high school, college, and now pro into
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  Speaker 2: a sec. Like he's 40 and running back years, but
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  Speaker 2: still looks 22.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to say that I
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  Speaker 1: think is so crazy is that I think it is
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  Speaker 1: perfectly reasonable that this year is a Saquon Barkley regression year, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like you run for 2,000 yards, you take all the
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  Speaker 1: carries that it takes Uh, Barkley is now, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to say going into year eight or something like that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's the same draft as Lamar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's about the time that you have a regression
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  Speaker 1: for running back. It's unreasonable to expect him. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, in week one, it looked like the sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing that was possible. Hey, Derek Henry is a
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  Speaker 1: lot older than him and just ran for 1900 yards
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  Speaker 1: on six yards, a carry, and then just came out
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  Speaker 1: here and started the season with 170 yards. like all
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  Speaker 1: that hyperbaric chamber stuff and everything else he's doing, apparently
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  Speaker 1: it's worth the money. But guys, he gave up the
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  Speaker 1: booty at the end of that game, much like Mark Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: He gave up the booty in the last time they
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  Speaker 1: played that game in Buffalo, where this stops being a
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  Speaker 1: discussion about the quarterback and really does become a discussion
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  Speaker 1: about why does your whole team seem to get tight?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it your whole team? Like, is that a
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  Speaker 1: fair characterization? The quarterback has certainly looked to be tight
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  Speaker 1: over time and we have certainly chastised him and given
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  Speaker 1: him the hell that you deserve when you are a
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  Speaker 1: guy with as many receipts and the stripes that Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson has and you come out there and you look tight.
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  Speaker 1: But after a certain point, man, and it's everybody and
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  Speaker 1: you put up 40 points on the road and you're
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  Speaker 1: up and you lose, this goes back to the coach.
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  Speaker 1: Like to me, if I'm running that franchise, This is
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  Speaker 1: the make or break year for Harbaugh. And look, he's
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  Speaker 1: been there forever, man. Sometimes it's just time for you
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  Speaker 1: to go. It happens. I can't say that the team
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  Speaker 1: doesn't respond to him because they seem to, right? They
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  Speaker 1: made the changes with the offense. As you've asked Lamar
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  Speaker 1: to step up and to become a better passer, more
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  Speaker 1: sneaky stats. Lamar Jackson last year had 41 touchdowns, four interceptions,
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  Speaker 1: and ran for over 900 yards. I'm sorry. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to answer the questions about everybody else before we start
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  Speaker 1: putting it back on that guy. Even if, like I say,
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  Speaker 1: and it's an important point, Lamar Jackson is not the
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  Speaker 1: reason that the Ravens lost that game, but he is
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  Speaker 1: not the reason why they won that game. The other guy,
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  Speaker 1: he is the reason his guys won the game, right?
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  Speaker 1: And if they'd lost, he wouldn't have been the reason
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  Speaker 1: because he also had an incredible game. Like I find
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  Speaker 1: it to be so much more interesting, at least for
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  Speaker 1: the type of job that I have to be able
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  Speaker 1: to come off of a game like that. And what
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to do is trying to find a
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  Speaker 1: way to blame or chastise the two excellent quarterbacks who
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  Speaker 1: played excellently. Like we don't have to do that. I
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  Speaker 1: will say this though, Ryan, Buffalo going to need to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to run the ball. Like, we're just
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  Speaker 1: going to jump on Josh Allen's back and he's going
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  Speaker 1: to do everything? I will say this for the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: It took them a while to build it up, but
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  Speaker 1: it never felt like that was their plan on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: These last couple years, it's felt like this is what
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo has just decided they're going to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, they've found a way to make
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  Speaker 2: him a more effective runner, but their receivers still look
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  Speaker 2: like non-playable characters. James Cook is good, not great. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: at least... None of them are really hit, but the
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  Speaker 2: Ravens have put a lot of talent, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: draft capital into that receiver position. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 2: they go out and get Derrick Henry last year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this, though. They put a lot
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  Speaker 1: of capital into that, but if you run through this
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  Speaker 1: box score, if there's something that needs to worry you
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  Speaker 1: about them, Zay Flowers looks like the guy that they
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  Speaker 1: said he was going to be when he got drafted, right?
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  Speaker 1: He looked like that. But they are looking for what's
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  Speaker 1: left of DeAndre Hopkins to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: Two catches for 35 yards.
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  Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman... So I don't know if you ever listened
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  Speaker 1: back in the day when me and Shannon did the
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  Speaker 1: radio show, and everybody's got that guy. Like one of
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  Speaker 1: them for me was Kristen Michael, but the defining one
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  Speaker 1: for me was Darren McFadden, but this is the year
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  Speaker 1: that he puts it all together.
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  Speaker 2: That checks out.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman, he is a guy that I promise this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the year he puts it all together.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts is mine.
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  Speaker 1: I had that feeling while I was watching snippets of
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  Speaker 1: that game. It started looking like it might be, right?
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  Speaker 1: It started looking like it might be. Mark Andrews didn't
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  Speaker 1: give him anything in this game. So they have made
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  Speaker 1: the capital investments. They signed Odell Beckham a couple years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but what was left of Odell Beckham? They they've tried
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  Speaker 1: flowers seems to be the one that has panned out,
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  Speaker 1: but somebody is going to have to give it because
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  Speaker 1: we're at this point now where their quarterback is one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks who has ever played. He is
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  Speaker 1: a hall of fame quarterback. Like Josh Allen is still
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  Speaker 1: hall of fame trajectory. Lamar Jackson with the receipts that
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  Speaker 1: he's got his hall of fame. Josh Allen, I think
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  Speaker 1: is going to be there.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But like he's one MVP or one Superbowl appearance away
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  Speaker 2: from being a lock.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Like, like this is where they, this is where they are.
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  Speaker 1: The dude in the cap is, is going to need
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  Speaker 1: to figure out how to get this done. Because if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't, they're going to look like they're squandering this.
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  Speaker 1: And Lamar is more than a runner. And I find
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  Speaker 1: most impressive about him as runner is that he takes
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  Speaker 1: very good care of himself, right? Like he's not running
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  Speaker 1: like Cam Newton used to run, where Cam Newton is
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  Speaker 1: running like a fullback, right? It's not that.
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  Speaker 2: However, no, Mars has figured out like he gets out
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  Speaker 2: of bounds. He gets down. Yes. You never really see
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  Speaker 2: him take a contact injury. He gets sick all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He has the worst immune system of all time.
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  Speaker 2: But he's never you never see him like almost carted off.
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  Speaker 1: I just think we need to keep in mind that
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  Speaker 1: his primary football advisor at every turn has been his mama.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a bad thing. I'm just saying that if
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  Speaker 1: your mama is giving you the most football advice, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be getting out of bounds and you're going
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  Speaker 1: to be sliding. You know what I mean? Let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you what your mama don't give a damn about.
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  Speaker 3: No extra yard.
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  Speaker 1: Not with her baby. She might be thinking that Derek
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  Speaker 1: Henry need to go out there and get an extra
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  Speaker 1: yard or Mark Ingram needed to get an extra yard.
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  Speaker 3: But you need to get your black ass down.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But he doesn't take those big hits as a runner. However,
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  Speaker 1: We saw this specifically with Cam Newton. This is the
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  Speaker 1: greatest example. He had the career arc of a running
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  Speaker 1: back because of all the miles that he had. You
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  Speaker 1: want to get this gentleman to do it like Lamar.
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  Speaker 1: This is really the time because we don't have a
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  Speaker 1: great answer for how long this is going to go.
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  Speaker 1: It is not, in all likelihood, this is not going
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  Speaker 1: to be a 17 or 18 year career. And that's
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  Speaker 1: not a slight or an insult to him. That's just
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  Speaker 1: not how it works with guys like this. If you
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: decide you're going to do this and play this type
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: of quarterback, you're not going to have a 20 year.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be that. Just not. And with
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the athleticism fades for him. He'll still be able to pass,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: but it's going to completely change the dynamics of how
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: he plays. This is the window to get this done.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: All right. Either John Harbaugh gets it done or John
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh going to be sitting behind a desk as the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: new Jimmy Johnson. Just you watch.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Now I had mentioned and made the point that that
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: game did not feel so much like the consolation bracket.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Between the Bills and the Ravens as it had before.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And the reason for that is very simple. The Chiefs
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: did not feel like champions in that game that they
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: played in Brazil against the Chargers. They did not. I
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: think big takeaway from that game, though, is there is
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: no quarterback whisperer quite like Jim Harbaugh now is there.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know how, but there
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: is not.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: And when Justin Herbert is at the peak of his powers,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, when things are working for him and he's
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: hitting those throws and he has time, I get why
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the nerds love him so much.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's the king of the eye test, right?
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: He is.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Like, I made a point once that John Elway is
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the best eye test quarterback in NFL history. And I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: still believe that to be true. And people were like, well,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: what about Aaron Rodgers? Aaron Rodgers has an eye test arm, right?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But getting off the bus, just seeing the dude in pants,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: ready to go play. And you could be like, well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: people would hit me back with that. And they're like, well,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: John Elway is 6'3, 220 or whatever. Well, Aaron Rodgers
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: is 6'2, 220 or whatever. Is it that big a difference? Look,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't make the rules, dog.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers didn't get drafted to play baseball.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got, let me tell you, no matter how
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: much of a jerk people thought Aaron Rodgers was, that
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: same version of John Elway, whom people thought was a jerk,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't nobody letting that slide to know number 25. You
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: just weren't.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: John Elway wasn't sitting behind, wasn't sitting for two years.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Wasn't happening. Wasn't happening, man. Like, but if you, like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that was the guy. Big, strong, he had, like, perfect
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: physical mechanics in the arm, and he could run and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: all of those things. Justin Herbert fits very similar characteristics.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: In fact, his eye test problem is that he's a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: little too much of something, which is too tall because
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he's about 6'6. And generally terrible haircuts. Like, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: there's that. But you get it. He's athletic. He's got
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that arm. Somebody told me a story when that draft
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: was coming up. And because that was the draft with
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Tua winning that draft. Was it Joe Burrow, Tua, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those were three of the top six.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: The 2020 draft, right. And somebody said about the Chargers,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: they were like, and they talked to somebody in the organization,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, so we're going to take a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: black dude this year. Like, for whatever reason, they had
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: concluded they were going to take a black dude. And
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: somebody was like, well, what about Herbert? They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: close enough. That was what was relayed to me about
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: what they were doing with that team.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That was the year Tyrod was the starter.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So they clearly committed organizationally.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: They did. So that's like... now of course this story
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: may not have been a real relay because they had
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: a black coach at the time like when hugh jackson
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was the coach people were assuming that they were just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: gonna get a black coach and i was like you
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: don't know any black quarterback i'm like you don't know
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: anything about Hugh Jackson, who's like building for granted quarterback
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is Carson Palmer, right? Like you guys have this wrong,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but I just say all that to say, that's the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: athleticism that Justin Herbert is giving you. He looks and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: can be whatever quarterback you want to be. The big
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: reason why quarterback whisperer, Jim Harbaugh took that job was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: because of Justin Herbert. And when you think about it,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is the guy who drafted Colin Kaepernick, who
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: was a very good football player for a decent period
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of time. And they are very physically similar. Colin, of course,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is just a different level of runner. But when you
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: think about it, kind of tall, you know, tall, spindly
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in some ways. Like, he's that guy. And he looked
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: like that guy in that game against the Chiefs. And
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, after y'all told us that it was going
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to be different, looked a lot like the Chiefs of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: last year, where it's Patrick Mahomes throwing to some dudes
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that they would have picked up in front of the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Home Depot.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Like, y'all doing anything today?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Y'all want some work?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: All right, come on down there.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, who... If you're going to be a football
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: player that weigh like 20 pounds less than Beaumont Jones,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you got to be able to make them kicks from
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: 60 yards.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: That dude got hurt because he ran into his mans.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That's all that happened. He's just not that big, right?
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: We have seen kind of smaller guys who can make
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it happen that way, but he's not a bowling ball
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: type at his size. He's just really, really fast and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: a good football player, but he's just not that big.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Rasheed Rice is now out on suspension. Travis Kelsey, he's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: not young.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Older than me.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. I couldn't quite remember. Was he
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: 36 now? Yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I shouldn't say it that way. But, yes, he's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: an old man. Like, to be out here still playing
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the football, he is an old man.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Still playing the football in a three-point stance.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. They don't have a great–
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, by the way, he's still in the league all-star.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: They're still giving him the ball. They tried to get
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a running back when Edwards had Laird the other day.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: You know who their leading rusher was in this game
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: on Friday night?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. By a wide margin, I will note, Hollywood
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Brown had a catch for 49 yards, Ryan, and the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: rest of the catch is nine for 50. Like, this
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is not encouraging what they're breaking out here in a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: very tough division.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And the thing that they didn't look like last year
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and the year prior is their defense looked really bad.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Indeed. And their defense has looked excellent at points. Now look,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: maybe what we're talking about here is the Chargers are
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: really good and the Chargers may have the best coach
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: in that division. I think we would all agree at
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this point that that is the best coached division in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the history of coaching in divisions, right? The only guy
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that hasn't won a Super Bowl is Jim Harbaugh.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: That's it. Might legitimately have, could possibly have four coaching
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famers.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think that when all is said and done, they
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: will all go into the Hall of Fame. Andy Reid,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think, is a no-brainer. I think Sean Payton, hey, man,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you win a Super Bowl with the Saints. That's like
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: when LeBron James won that championship in Cleveland. I understand
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: why he think that count for four or five. That's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: against all laws. Right fast, I'm going to just say this.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: They had a game on Sunday between the Saints and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and I was looking in the crowd, and buddy,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine caring enough about the Saints, the Cardinals,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: or football to pay money for that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Spencer Rattler doesn't get your butt in the seat?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, Kyler Murray looked pretty good in that game, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: would have to say. I will say this for Spencer Rattler.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to make this about me, but I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: think you'll understand where I'm coming from. I feel bad
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: for Spencer Rattler in the sense that he is still
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: having it held against him. the way that people perceived
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: his behavior in a docu-series that was done when he
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: was in high school. And I just think the idea
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of holding against, I don't think it's fair to hold
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it against anybody what they were in high school when
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: they're a sophomore in college. Like, you go to college,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you get to start over. You get to be a
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: whole new person. I was at the Super Bowl this year,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and Spencer Rattler, we were at some party. I think
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: it may have been the New Heights party. And we
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: were there, and he just stopped and saw me and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, Bomati Jones, Spencer Rattler, how are you?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And he took his hand out. And the thing that
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: struck me about that, Ryan, is if there's anybody that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: don't need to introduce himself, it's Spencer Rattler.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? He's been, especially to someone
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like you who follows recruiting, he's been in your life
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: for nearly, because he was a big, big time recruit.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: He was that guy. I mean, he's the number one guy, right?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: But the thing for me was, I was like, huh.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you don't need to introduce yourself to somebody who were,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I actually took that as, that's not the guy from
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the docuseries. This is a level of humility, which also
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: for me was, I'm an old man because I'm like, wow,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he seemed like such a nice young man. I now
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: have these thoughts when I see people that has nothing
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to do with what it is that we were talking about.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But for the Chiefs, here's what's crazy about the standard
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs have gotten to. They have won their
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: division nine times in a row, right? Keeping in mind
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that this takes it back to the Alex Smith days.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: They've won the division nine times in a row. I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: believe the only road playoff games my homes has played
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: was that year where they had to go to Buffalo
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and they had to go to Baltimore, right? Like that's,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that's it for them going to play role playoff games.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: This run has been so unreal. If they fall down
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to winning a wild card or simply winning that division,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but not getting the number one seed, it's going to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: feel like the wheels are coming off, right? Um, Which
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: makes it difficult for me to have a really great
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: grasp on how good they are at a given point
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: in time. Because the standard that they're held against is
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: truly unlike any standard that I can think of, right?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: It's seven straight AFC championship games.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: The Patriots did this, right? Like they're the only team
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that I can think of in that way. But the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: thing about the Patriots was even when the years were coming,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the Patriots weren't great. We only had one time when
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: we thought it was over for the Patriots and it
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was 2014. Against the Chiefs. And they had that game
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and they got their doors blown off.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And I'll never forget, man, me and Dan Levitard sat
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: up there on television and we buried them. We were like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: this is what it looks like when it all falls apart, yada, yada, yada, da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Four months later, Malcolm Butler made the interception at the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: goal line and they won the Super Bowl again. And
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it was just like, oh, never mind. It's kind of
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like how we said Steph Curry was better than LeBron
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and then they took the 3-1 lead and we didn't
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: start saying anybody was better than LeBron after that. Like,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: we was petrified of going in that way. That's what
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it was with the Patriots. But with the Chiefs, They
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: don't look like those guys, man. They don't look like it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And Mahone, I don't know how much of this is coaching.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this is the quarterback.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But as Brady declined, and the decline was obvious. And
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in 2014, if you were watching, he did not look
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like the same guy. He somehow got it back together.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: But he didn't look like that guy at the time.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But I never felt like Tom Brady was reduced to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: nickel and diming all the time.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Like truly to get it done. Although I guess at
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the end, it felt like that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But the part that's striking me about this is how
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: are you guys still nickel and diming it with the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: greatest quarterback I've ever seen?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: And you're never going to convince me it's because he
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: can't do it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Because when he did have to dial it up, man,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he made some big, deep throws, right? Like I think
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it was at Hollywood Brown, that big one he made
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: rolling right flush out of the pocket where Khalil Mack
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: was on his keister and he got it done. It's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: not like we're seeing flashes. He hasn't gotten worse, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: they have. And they got to figure this out real
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: soon because the truth is, as much as I say it,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you know, if they just get to be a wild card,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we'll think the sky is falling. Missing the playoffs is
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: totally on the board. And one thing that's going to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: be tough for them this year, while we talk about
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the coaching, I don't know how many of you watched
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: parts of this game or saw any of it. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I don't blame you if you did not. The Raiders
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: are not going to be good because I think their
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: defense is not going to be good. But Geno was amazing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Gino with Chip Kelly? I just say that to say,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the wins that you felt like you could count against
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the Raiders, 2023 notwithstanding, Chiefs fans, those wins you thought
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you could count against the Raiders, you can't. This is
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: going to be a tough go for them. And that
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is why Ravens-Bills doesn't feel like the consolation bracket doesn't
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: feel like it right now. That felt like a battle
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: between the two teams that are going to be playing
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. We'll see how confident I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: feel about saying that later. But even now, I can't
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: believe I'm saying that about what the Chiefs have been.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And that is that's how they looked in Brazil, which
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: is to say kind of like boo boo.
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• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Week 1. Tough loss for your Lions. They go down
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: 27-13 to the Packers. Goff sacked four times. But that's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: your team. Bo, what happened?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: We got a problem. We have a very big problem.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: And the very big problem is, what's the center's name?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Ragnow? Frank Ragnow?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: The one that retired?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: The one that retired, yeah. Can somebody go to his
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: house and get him to bring his ass back? Because
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the interior blocking was abysmal. Look, Michael Parsons was giving
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Sewell a bit of the work. Yes.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And he played not even half the snaps.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Like, that was a thing, right? And the Packers might
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: be the best team in the NFC. Like, either Michael
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Parsons or Rashawn Gary is your other guy coming off
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the edge, right? Like, there's a thing going on. And obviously, offensively,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: they look good. But I thought the Lions defensively, I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: felt okay about that, right? Like, I do think... A
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: big problem for the Lions last year was pass rush.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And there wasn't enough of that. They did a great
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: job stopping the run though. Like they decided they were
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: going to stop Josh Jacobs and they did that. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like the Packers were out there putting up
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: video game numbers, right? Like that's not what happened. But
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: what did happen to me for the Lions is they
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: can't run because they can't get a push up the middle.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And if that's going to be the case all year long,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: they're cooked. Like, this isn't going to be about Ben Johnson.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: This ain't going to be about Aaron Glenn. This ain't
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: going to be about none of that. You've got to
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: get that push because what they have at quarterback is
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the rich man's Kirk Cousins. And what I mean by
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that is if everything is good around Kirk Cousins, I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: think it was Scott McLuhan used to be the GM
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: at Washington made this point. If everything's good, everything's great
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: around Kirk Cousins, you can win some things. And I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: think what we saw by the end of Kirk Cousins
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: time in Minnesota was if everything's great around him, you
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: can get to the division round of the playoffs.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: There's a reason the Shanahan disciples got Kirk Cousins, their guy.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: That is correct.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: For 10 plus years now.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But you could only get it so far with Jared Goff.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: You make everything great around him, and you can at
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: least get to a Super Bowl. I've seen it happen, right?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: You could probably win a Super Bowl if you did
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: everything great around him. That interior offensive line situation is
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the opposite of great, right? And so if they can't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: solidify that run game that was such a big deal
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: for them last year, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: You don't have a quarterback who can overcome. That's not
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: the kind of guy that you got. And you've got
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a mentality of a team that requires you to hit
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: people in the mouth. Y'all going to need to start
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: hitting some people in the mouth. Otherwise, they're going to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. And it's going to really stink because
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm actually invested in this. Like, I have moments like
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: when Brian Branch, they called that, Brian Branch made that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: interception and took it back to the house. And then
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: they called those two penalties. Dude, the mood swing I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: had from when he got in to seeing all the flags,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I was just, This is not.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: That's how you know they got you.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: That was exactly how... Look, I fully knew they got
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: me when J-Mo threw that goddamn interception last year during
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: They just locked him up, too. He's going to be
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: in your life for a couple more years.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Whose idea was that? You can't give him no money
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: up front. What are you talking about?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You got... Some people have to be on one-year deals forever.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: For life.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: For life.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I think the thing that I think is interesting to
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: me that you pointed out is you talked about the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: identity of that team. And Dan Campbell is on that
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch run through MF's face. Yes. That is his
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: whole philosophy of coaching. And again, when you're struggling center
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: guard guard, that's not going to be as much.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Of an option.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Bad news, man. It's bad news.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I'm nervous.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I'm nervous.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I'm really, really nervous.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: But at least there's the Bears.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Next week, you got the Bears and Ben Johnson
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: coming back.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: That's that schedule, though. They're we're going to test the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: resolve of this team, because if you go look at that,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: they got like the Bears and the Browns. I want
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to I think they get the Bears, the Browns in
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the line and the Giants. And then other than that,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it's like Vikings, Ravens, Chiefs.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they have the AFC West and, you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: obviously their own division, which might be the toughest in football.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Well, they have their own division. Oh, they got to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: play the Bucs? So, yeah, here's what we're looking at now,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: just so you know for my guys. Bears at the Ravens.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Browns at the Bengals. Okay, you know, okay. At the Chiefs.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Bucs at home. Vikings at home. At the Commandos. At
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the Lions. I think that's when they get, no, the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Bucs not then. Home for the Giants. Thanksgiving against the Packers. Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the bye is after the bucks. I'm sorry.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about something else?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of people making new destinations, Aaron Rodgers
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: playing for his new team. He threw for four touchdowns
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: in a 34-32 win against the Jets. After the game,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: he took a bit of a victory lap. Let's take
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: a listen.
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: You spoke about the meeting with Aaron Glenn on McAfee
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: a few months ago. Beating him, is there significance in
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: that since he basically told you to your face that
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: he didn't think you.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Were right for that team? Yes, that's what he did.
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: So there's significance in beating him for you?
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Hey, man.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: We all acknowledge that Aaron Rodgers is a bit of
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a grump. Can't blame him for that one at all.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: They did make him fly across the country to fire him.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: To break him up with him, yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: That did happen. They made him get on the plane
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to shit can him. They could have easily got on
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the plane to go to his house to shit can him. No,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: they brought him in and they canned him. And look,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they both look to be better off without each other.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I felt like that it may have been the best
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Justin Fields game I had ever seen. Like he looked
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: more like a poised, composed, ready to do it quarterback
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: than I think that I had seen him look In
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: his time.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: They're just leaning, they're leaning into his strengths. It looks,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: it looks like he's playing at Ohio State.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: But look, the best era, the best version of Justin
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Fields that we had seen is the one that ran
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: for 1,200 yards.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, he had the two Russian touchdowns, whatever. 16 for 22,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: 218 yards, a touchdown, no picks. That's 10 yards in attempt.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: And he, it looked different. Like this was I watched
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: that game with my man, Josh. He is a Jets fan.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: And I have been watching Jets games intermittently with him
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: for the last nine years. And I've never seen him
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: this happy about the Jets. And that was in a loss.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Right now, of course, that fumble on that kickoff felt
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: very familiar to him.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the world he resides in.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: That was Jetsy. That was real Jetsy. Like, Ryan, that
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: reminds me. How long have you been living here?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I think we moved here the same year. So eight
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: or nine years now.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So this is football season nine for you. There are
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: two football teams in this city. It is year nine,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and we've seen one good football season from the local teams. Yeah.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: That year, the Giants won a playoff game.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: With Daniel Jones.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: With Daniel Jones.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Like that is, that is, by the way, somebody looked good.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Somebody looked pretty good on Sunday.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Someone looked good in a new spot.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yep. But he all, he looked good in part because
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the other team looked bad. They looked like they was
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: going to fire their coach week one. But anyway, Aaron
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Rodgers was dealing Jack. Like there were moments where it
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: still looked like this new version of Aaron Rodgers, but
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that was four touchdown passes and he looked good. Like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: if he can look anything like that for the rest
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: of the year, like maybe this is his last hurrah
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and ain't no telling what, what's the word I'm looking for?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Homeopathic remedies that he might've, you know, come across in
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the off season. If he's going to look like that
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and we got on the Steelers, like you, you, The
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: best quarterback you could get was Aaron Rodgers. This is
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: what you were playing for. Okay. Hey, if he looks
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: like that, they go win a playoff game for the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: first time since, yeah, they ain't won a playoff game
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: since Obama.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time. And you assume Mike
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Tomlin's not going to be giving up 32 points every
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: weekend and week out.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, but hey, man, that's them New York Jets, baby. Like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: we'll see what it looks like at the end of
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the year, but hey, man, my man A.G., you know
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is my man, H-Town, Northside, no less.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: If Eric Lynn got the Jets looking like this, hey, man, shoot,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: he keep that going fireman ed might even vote for
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: zoron well let me tell you if there's anything that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: i can say with confidence about fireman ed he does
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: not live in the five.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Even if he did Even if he somehow, you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: trekked from Staten Island to... That's exactly what I was
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: about to say. If he is in one.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Of the five boroughs, I know exactly which one it is.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I promise you he was not casting a vote for
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Big Z.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: No.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: All right. Anyway, last story here. You alluded to this.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: The Dolphins got blown out by Daniel Jones and the Colts.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: They lost 33 to 8. Daniel Jones... The Colts became
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the first team since 1977 to score on every possession,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: according to ESPN research. Tyreek Hill noticeably upset on the sideline. Bo,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: your thoughts.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: One, I don't know how long they can allow him
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to stay on that team. Like you and I were
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: just talking about the unceremonious end for Howard Stern.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And the truth is, if you are serious, you people
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: who have never worked in radio don't quite get this.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: But this is the truth, man. If you are serious
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and you decide that you're not going to bring Howard
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Stern back, it can't be no farewell show.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: No.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You're going to hate that show. That farewell show is
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: not going to be pleasant.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many people buy serious to listen
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: to that farewell show. It's not going to be worth it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Broke people act a fool on their last radio show,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: let alone a man with hundreds of millions of dollars.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: You just can't let some people stick around while they're grumpy.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: This is just the nature of the business. Tyreek Hill,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: who they did not make the captain. Everybody seems out
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: on him. Y'all had to get rid of him. Like
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: bringing him back is a little bit crazy, given what
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the circumstances are. And it's week one. He's on the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: sideline looking like this. They've gotten beat by 25 points
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: three times in the four years that McDaniel has been there.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I think most of us like him. We would like
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to see it go well for him. But that experiment
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: seems to have run out of rope.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing wrong with being the offensive coordinator
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: for the 49ers or the Lions next year.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: That is correct. Now, the problem, of course, here is
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: some of this is Mike McDaniel. But his wagon has
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: been hitched to a guy that I feel very confident
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: saying just ain't got it. And that's Tua. Like, I
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: just don't. If everything with him, if everything is going right,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he can do it is not simply about the surrounding talent.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: It's about like the execution. If everything is running on time,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: he's got this for you, right? Otherwise, not so much.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And that's before we talk about, you know, maybe out
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: here trying to kill him. Like we haven't even gotten
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: to that point, but that was... That was a staggeringly
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: embarrassing performance to come out of the gate.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: For a team that the rumors were the vibes are bad,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the vibes are bad, the vibes are bad. And then
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you get blown. The door is blown off you by
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: And look, the rest of your division, the Patriots, they
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: didn't win against the Raiders, but I still think a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: lot of it came out like, eh, could have been worse.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: The Jets, not too shabby. Miami could not have been
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: worse could not have been worse but at once it
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been worse but also didn't feel like an
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: outlier performance.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Right it didn't feel I didn't feel like we're a
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: game where everything goes wrong you have bad fumble luck
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: you know you're driving like you you referenced you know
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: drop a kickoff or something but it was just they
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: they they did not it's never good when you're quitting
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: week one hey man.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Did you know that Zach Wilson is wearing number zero.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: No, I did not. He's still in the league.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: At age like 26, right?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't like that they let people go willy-nilly
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: with the numbers. That feels like an old man take,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: but it's chaos. I don't dig that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: We live in a society.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I don't dig it. And I think the, can they
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: wear a number zero? Nah, I don't think we should
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: have allowed that unless you were like, Jim Otto, double zero, maybe, right? Like,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I wasn't here for this. But, Wearing number zero is
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: not quarterback behavior. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: don't think showing up to the press conference wearing all
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the funny looking clothes is quarterback behavior either. Like, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: think the quarterback is a different role. You can put
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: yourself in a different way. If you are wearing number zero,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: that's personal foul behavior.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying? That's commissioner's list behavior.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Like, number zero is for wild cards. you're not supposed
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to be no wild card. Like that's, you know what
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that is? That's a number for characters.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And Zach Wilson's a lot of things. He's not a character.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: He is not a character. No, no, no, no, no.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: He is not. Or at the very least, even if
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you are a character, like Cam Newton didn't go full
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: character until after he was somebody's quarterback.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: The quarterback is not supposed to be a character. I
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: saw Kyler Murray wearing some funny looking pink pants coming
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in the studio and I was in the stadium and.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, It's not quarterback behavior, brother.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: That's character behavior.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: All right, Bo, we've opened up the voicemail line, you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: to anything and everything. Got some good submissions this week.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Hey, Bo.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: I'm a childless man like yourself who's a little older,
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: younger than you, but still a little on the older side.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: My friends are now starting to finally have kids. I
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: don't interact with a lot of children in my current
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: state in life. However, I feel like kids are ruder
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: than they used to be. And I was wondering if
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: you felt the same or if it's just like every
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: generation thinks the younger generation is a little ruder. It's
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: mostly that they just cut in front of me. I
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: don't know what it is, but I feel like with
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: this group of children more than others, adults are just
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: kind of invisible to them.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. Ryan, there was a lot of
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: subtle shade.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you're saying kids are ruder
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: or parents are worse.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about all that shit before.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm a little on the older side.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: You know, not as old as you.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't think we had. I think I took that
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: personally situation.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just kind of like, oh, OK. Like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll answer your question. I don't know, man.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: You got to remember, kids love me. Like, I am.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I am everybody's favorite uncle type
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of situation with kids. And they might be a little
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: ruder than they used to be, but you know what
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: they still are? Kids, right? You give them that look,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: they still know what that look means. Like, and especially
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: if they ain't never really got it before, it really
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: hits them from a stranger grown up that they kind
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: of know a little bit, though. They respond. Oh, yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Because they know what they're not supposed to be doing. Like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that is one of my favorite things about, like, kids
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: before they're old enough to talk. Like, Ryan, your son's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: about two. You know exactly what I'm talking about. They
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: know when they're not supposed to be doing something. Yes.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And when you catch them in it and just give
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: them that look like, you know you're not supposed to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: be doing that. You see it wash over them like.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: My son is not old enough to be rude, but
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: he's certainly old enough to know when he's not supposed
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: to be doing stuff. Yes. Mostly because he thinks it's funny. Yes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: But they give that. Peek around the corner. They still
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: do all of that stuff.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: They got the smart, yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And when you give them the A, they chill out.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: And sometimes they chuckle and laugh about it. Like, I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: remember the first time with Nick's daughter. She was small
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: enough for that. She did try to run some of
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that game on me. Because, of course, she would think
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: she could run game on me. I'd give her the world.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: She tried to run that game on me, and I
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: just looked at her like... What did you say? And
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: she was just like, okay, tried it. Just see if
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: it will work.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. When they're two and you're the grown-up,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: you've got to be the winner in that situation.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. You can't be outsmarted.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: You can't be outsmarted. You can try not to be
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: outsmarted by a two-year-old.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Last thing, you can't negotiate with terrorists. Just
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: throwing it out there.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: All right, here's our next one.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: What's up, folks? This is your boy, Javon. Coming out
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: of the southwest side of H-Town by way of Louisiana,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Lake Charles, I-10 by 10. Don't stop inviting. You already
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: know what it is. Man, I got a question for you.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: I know you grew up in the mid-90s in Houston
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: on the north side, but what are your thoughts on
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: screw music? I've never heard you talk about it. Maybe
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: you have before, but I'm just curious. Do you like it? Like,
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: what do you think of it? Like, do you still
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: listen to it? You grew up in an era where
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: that was basically coming about in Houston. So I'm just
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: curious your take on screw music. And, you know, if
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: you like it, how do you feel it represents Houston?
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it, man.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Love the show.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, Rice, a little bit of you, a little bit
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of me, right?
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Coming from Lake Charles to Houston. Of course, my part
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: of Houston and his part of Houston are damn near
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: as far from each other as Lake Charles and Houston,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: but that's a discussion for another day.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: That's like Manhattan and Brooklyn.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, the screw thing got popping when I was
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: in high school. Like, I want to say Pimp the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Pin came out when I was in 10th or 11th grade.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Like, I know it's 95, and those of you who
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: are not from Houston.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Draped up and dripped out, know what I'm talking about.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Three in the morning, got the burner out the stash spot.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: That joint, right? Um... Not for me. Not for me.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And the reason it's not for me is actually like
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: fairly simple I think it's obvious if you listen to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: screw a couple things one I don't I ain't never
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: said no lean right like the the the setting for
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: this music is just always been a bit lost on
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: me um but there are things like You chop and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: screw to write Slow Jam, I'm with it. Like, there
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: are songs that you can chop and screw that I'll
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: go for. My thing with Screw Tapes was.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: It was an absolute and total lack of quality control.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They let anybody get on these songs, rap it, they
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: be like, man, he freestyling. I would hope so!
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah!
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: If you took the time to write that down and
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: edit it, what are you talking about, right? And so
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: they let anybody in there on them songs talk about anything,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: talk about nothing. So when you get cats that can
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: actually rap and get on it. And so when the
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Swisher House stuff started coming out and they had more
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: cats that could rap, I'm like, okay, I can see
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: what's going on here. But it was just... It also was,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: and this is for me, and this changed over time.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: The Mixtape Messiah series, when Commillionaire came out there and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was like, hey man, we got to step the game up.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And you look at how much better rappers from Houston
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: are now than they were then. That was a much
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: more impactful piece of media than I think anybody gives
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you credit for because it was like, look man, the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: rest of the country out here laughing at us. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was going that far, but as
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: somebody who knew him back in the day, I knew
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: exactly where he was coming from.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I knew what he was into.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I knew all that stuff, right? I totally get it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: But For me, it just got to a point that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: as I'm listening to it, that I understand that locally
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: there is a bit of a rejection of what was
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: considered to be quote unquote hip hop versus rap because
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of the rejection that Southerners felt from those people toward
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: their culture and toward their music. Like, you know, it's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the Pimp C line, these country rap tunes. But let
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: me tell you what Pimp C had, incredibly high quality control. Right? Like,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that was in place there. And so for me and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: them Screwtastes, they were just cranking them bad boys out.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Because they were like, man, these cats don't care if
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: anybody can rap. Just give them some beats, and that'll
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: do the job. And me, as somebody who did like
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: all that hip-hop and was into different stuff, I just
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: wanted the music to be a little bit better. But
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: when it was good, it was good.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: All right, here's our next one.
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: Hi, Bo.
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: Enjoy the show. Just wondering from your perspective, at this
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: point in their respective careers, Whose rap legacy is more salvageable?
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: Is it Kanye or is it Drake? You asked me,
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: both of them have taken so many self-inflicted L's, it's
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: impossible to see how any one of them would be
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: able to get back on the winning track of any way.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: And I don't see a path either way. So, in
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: your opinion, who do you think has the better shot?
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Nah, brother, I don't think anybody's winning this contest.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: One, especially for Kanye, he's too old. He's too old,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how he could put together anything
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: dope enough that the people that are out on him
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: would care to check it out. I don't think he
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: has anything left, and I need to be careful because
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I haven't listened to anything he's made in seven years,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: at least at this point.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: It's been a long time.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I think the last thing I checked out
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: was the record he did in Wyoming, the Ye Joint.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: And so I was just like, all right, hey man,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: it happens.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you ain't got nothing left, right?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: With Drake, I don't know if he can get it back.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Like part of what he had was a bit of
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a vibe or as the kids say, an aura. I
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: don't know if he can get it back, but he's
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: also 39 years old. Like he might have to go
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: away for a long time and come back with like
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: one of them, like the LL Cool J album that
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: just came out that he did with Q-Tip. Like look man,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the old dudes all came back and wrecked shop this year.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: They all came back at Rep Shop. LL Cool J,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: you know, the Clips joint ain't my favorite, but they
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: came and they did it. And there's other examples of
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: these cats that came back around. That Raekwon album, not
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: my favorite, but not bad. I still need to listen
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: to the new Supreme clientele. But people of that generation
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: came back and made a lot of really good records.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: But these are guys that go back to a time
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: where the thing that was most important was how good
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you could rap. And Drake is a really good rapper
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: when he's on it, but it was the vibes, man.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Like that's what he was selling as much as anything
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: else was vibes and lifestyle.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: People don't believe in no more.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And like you said, we talked about these people are old.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Rap's a young game. And, you know, after 10, how
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: many of these great rappers last past 10 years, right?
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: 10, 15 years. I mean, and that's how, I mean,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: how far Kanye and Drake are going back.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, man, Drake, let's say, Drake has had a very,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: very long career. Like, the expectation that you could keep
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: this going at this point is asking for a lot
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: out of this dude. But, hey, man, once people stop
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: believing you, it's hard. Only man to come back from
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: us not believing him was Rick Ross. It's hard to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: come back from that. And people just don't believe it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that he matured in a way where, look,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: his base, man, people 40 years old now. And they,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: only people that still want to hear what Drake used
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: to be or what Drake has become is suckers.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: All right, here's our last one.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: What's going on, Bo? It's Jamal from D.C. Not sure
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: if you came across this yet, but Starz has a
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: documentary about Magic City. And so I'm just curious to
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: see If you have any interesting or podcast appropriate stories
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: about about times that you may have been to Magic City.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Long time listener. Appreciate it. Keep it up.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: The first time I went to a gentleman's establishment, I
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: was 18 years old and I went to Magic City
• 55:14
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• 55:18
  Speaker 1: second time I went to Magic City, I was 21
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: years old. And I spent the last $ 35 I had
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: to my name at Magic City. I should stop there.
• 55:31
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• 55:34
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