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Episode #3980 The New Phil Hendrie Show · The World of Phil Hendrie

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  Speaker 1: The following is a world-famous Phil Henry Show encore presentation.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: It's Phil Henry here in the Phil Henry Show. And
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  Speaker 1: we have.
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  Speaker 3: Stephen Bozell in a, I think, a very far-reaching and
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  Speaker 3: serious conversation today.
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  Speaker 2: We do.
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  Speaker 3: Stephen Bozell, many of you know him. He's a longtime contributor.
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  Speaker 3: He's on our Newsmaker line. And has at times commented
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  Speaker 3: on a great many things having to do with family
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  Speaker 3: and business. Over 20 years ago on the eve of Y2K,
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  Speaker 3: which was a very, it was an event that a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people were fearing because they thought that computers
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  Speaker 3: had not been programmed properly. They thought there'd be a
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  Speaker 3: massive computer shutdown. Yeah, they thought there'd be a massive
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  Speaker 3: computer shutdown, an infrastructural failure when the calendar clicked into
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  Speaker 3: a whole new set of numerals, not 19 anymore, but
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  Speaker 3: two zero zero zero.
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  Speaker 1: And, um, that's too many zeros. No, it's not two
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  Speaker 1: zero zero zero.
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  Speaker 2: That's three.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Take it easy, bud.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, that it clicked into a whole new set of numerals.
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  Speaker 1: Two zero. No, I forget how many there's three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Two zero zero zero. Is that right? One, two, three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was just writing them down.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: And, uh, uh, Steve Bozell came on our program, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: prior to that, uh, discussing his fear, uh, that with
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  Speaker 1: the possible collapse of society, the collapse of infrastructure, which
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  Speaker 1: would lead to overall civil disorder. Exactly, civil disorder. And
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  Speaker 1: even to the extent that he thought there would be
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  Speaker 1: sort of a Mad Max effect. You know, if you
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  Speaker 1: saw the movies Mad Max with Mel Gibson and Tina Turner,
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  Speaker 1: there's these guys that are ruling the road, these road warriors.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, these road warriors who had their way And did
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  Speaker 3: what they wanted with people.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And Steve had this kind of a paranoia. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people were paranoid back then. I didn't think anything
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen because I had friends that worked
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  Speaker 1: in the banking business and I knew that they'd been
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  Speaker 1: working on this problem. And also I happened to have
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  Speaker 1: in my pocket a debit card that had an expiration
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  Speaker 1: of 01.
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  Speaker 2: It was 1999.
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  Speaker 1: So how they were able to.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: How are they able to put it? I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to get into it again, man, okay? Yeah, we've got
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  Speaker 1: to discuss this ad nauseum. No, I just thought you
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  Speaker 1: said you had it. It was 1999. Right, but my
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  Speaker 1: debit card said expires 01. How's that possible if they
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  Speaker 1: hadn't already worked out the numerical exchange that would take
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  Speaker 1: place there?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. My God, General,
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  Speaker 3: you're like an animal with his foot caught in a trap.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, Stephen Bozell will join us today because the
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  Speaker 3: fear that he had of the road warrior, quote, unquote,
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  Speaker 3: You do this part, Phil.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it led him to buy a case of KY jelly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's anal lube. Would you shut the hell up, bud?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, essentially what he said. We bring on now
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  Speaker 1: from Corona, California, Stephen Bozell, who's going to discuss with
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  Speaker 1: us now. And Stephen, I understand you're still on your
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  Speaker 1: way home from work, right?
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  Speaker 2: I am, Mr. Henry, and I also have anticipated... A
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  Speaker 2: fair level of abuse that I'll take on your program today.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you will not, Steve. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to take any abuse. You and I will talk. Steve,
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  Speaker 1: this is General Shaw. We're going to, and you and
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  Speaker 1: I have had our run-ins, we're going to give you
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  Speaker 1: all due respect.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, I appreciate that very much.
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  Speaker 1: But let me just get the audience up to speed here.
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  Speaker 1: So you're on your way home?
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  Speaker 2: I am, yeah, I'm on my way home. We just
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of jobs today in Diamond Bar, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm heading home to Corona.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about... We were talking about AI singularity, which
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  Speaker 1: is where... How do you understand it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, AI singularity is when AI, the artificial intelligence... And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert, please understand.
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  Speaker 1: None of us really are.
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  Speaker 2: AI is when the artificial intelligence that they have has
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  Speaker 2: finally learned enough and it knows enough whereby it can
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  Speaker 2: now say, okay, yeah, I got it. I'll take it
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  Speaker 2: from here. Basically, it's now... It knows what it wants
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  Speaker 2: to do and the things that it wants to do,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and so it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, it's not taking any human input.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. No longer does it need no human,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, no longer does it need any
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  Speaker 2: no human.
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  Speaker 1: No longer does it need human input.
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  Speaker 2: No longer does it need human input, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: need any human input. So now it's taken over and
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  Speaker 2: decides for itself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me, before we get into what you're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: I want to let people know that My understanding of
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  Speaker 1: AI is different from yours.
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  Speaker 2: Mr. Henry, I know this, and I think you haven't
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  Speaker 2: looked deep enough into it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I understand that. But my understanding of AI is
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  Speaker 1: that it is a, as people have said, it's software.
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  Speaker 1: It is not an independent, intelligent being. It's software that
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  Speaker 1: knows how to steal.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but again, this thing called singularity. See, you can
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  Speaker 2: talk all you want about it. All it wants to
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  Speaker 2: do is go out and steal something. like it would
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  Speaker 2: go out and steal Phil Henry's material or whatever you
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  Speaker 2: want to say. I'm talking about that time in the future,
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  Speaker 2: which I was made aware of. Delcor is just one
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  Speaker 2: of our buyers. He's a guy that supplies us with
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  Speaker 2: our drywall. He's a guy that supplies us. We bought
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  Speaker 2: concrete through him at times. Delwar said.
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  Speaker 1: What's this gentleman's name?
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  Speaker 2: He's nobody. Like I said, he's just a... But it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a side interest to him. Delwar said... That
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  Speaker 2: the day is coming when AI is going to know how...
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  Speaker 2: It's going to know... Del, Mr. Ritter, can I put
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  Speaker 2: Del on the phone?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but I don't want to interview him.
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  Speaker 2: No, Del, just... The day when AI will... Hello? Go ahead, sir. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the day when AI will know what it wants to
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  Speaker 2: be and what it wants to do. That's... That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks, Del. That's what I was trying to
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  Speaker 2: tell Steve, though. Yeah, no... So it'll know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So you're talking about a time, Steve, essentially when AI
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  Speaker 1: becomes an independent, thinking, intelligent entity.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. That's it. And that is what frightens me.
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  Speaker 2: And that, I think, is what should concern every American.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I had said to my wife, and
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  Speaker 2: somehow it got out on the Dave Glickman show, because
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  Speaker 2: my wife calls it Dave Glickman.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Glickman's what, a sports show?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sports show, but my wife had called
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  Speaker 2: up Dave Glickman because she likes to talk about women's soccer,
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  Speaker 2: and Dave Glickman talks about it. But she said that
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  Speaker 2: AI would take over and would have the same effect
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  Speaker 2: as a road warrior.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, as the Mad Max.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, General, what I'm trying to say is... Well,
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  Speaker 1: let me just ask something, Steve. How is that going
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  Speaker 1: to happen? How does AI.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how. If it decides
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  Speaker 2: to do the things it wants to do, and those
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  Speaker 2: are contrary to the best interests of humans, is what
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  Speaker 2: my wife told Dave Glickman, that I had purchased... And I.
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  Speaker 1: Did your wife tell the Dave Glickman show that you
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  Speaker 1: bought a case of KY jelly?
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  Speaker 2: She said, no, she didn't say I bought it. She said,
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  Speaker 2: would it be necessary?
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  Speaker 1: Would it be necessary to get a case of KY jelly?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you think AI is going to, just
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  Speaker 1: like the road warrior, is going to take you, is
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  Speaker 1: going to.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to take. Let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you what, like right now. No AI, it ain't going
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  Speaker 2: to take Steve Bozell. I'm not going to let it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, turn me around and bend me over. But
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  Speaker 2: it's this day war, Mr. Henry. Yeah. But if the
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  Speaker 2: AI wants to, if it is a bad programming and
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  Speaker 2: it wants to turn you around and bend you over.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going to do that, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: War? How's it going to do that? It's going to
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  Speaker 2: do that through the collection... of synapses that is computer
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  Speaker 2: synapses that sent the message a criminal message to the
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  Speaker 2: brain and the brain will then and just like that
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  Speaker 2: road warrior will go out and instead of helping mankind
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  Speaker 2: will now be mankind's enemy and uh and mr bozell
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  Speaker 2: with a case of k1 if you go out and
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  Speaker 2: get lube.
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  Speaker 1: Would you fuck off with these guys what what are
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  Speaker 1: they talking about Hey, Steve, hold on. Steve, we hung
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  Speaker 1: up on that ass. That ass you got there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Let me get... I'm supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do that. Well, I'm doing it right now. Go ahead, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: Dave, Dave, go home. I just... Go home. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: it was unfortunate for April to bring up the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I bought a case of KY jellies just before
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  Speaker 2: the Y2K because I was afraid society was going to
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  Speaker 2: break down and the road warrior would be running amok
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  Speaker 2: and I'd have to go break out the loo. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: We went through that already, man. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: go down that road again.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, I don't either, but I'm not the
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  Speaker 2: guy that made AI, and I'm not the guy that
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  Speaker 2: said that AI can do the things it wants to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what is AI going to do, man? How is
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  Speaker 1: AI going to have its way with you?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Mr. Henry, but doesn't it scare you
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  Speaker 2: and every Christian soul listening to this program right now
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  Speaker 2: that AI at some point will gain its independence from
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  Speaker 2: the human mind and will thus move forward doing what
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  Speaker 2: it wants to do, thinking up things. God knows what
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  Speaker 2: it's going to think up.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's going to think stuff up, you better get
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  Speaker 1: a case of KY jelly.
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  Speaker 2: Is that it? No, that's not it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you're saying. You're afraid of what KY... What
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  Speaker 1: is it, KY? It's AI, not KY.
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  Speaker 2: You're afraid, you know... What do you call me, Fred?
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying you're afraid that AI is going to think
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  Speaker 1: up stuff that you need a case of KY jelly for.
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  Speaker 2: I guess in a manner of speaking, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me just jump in right now and tell you,
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  Speaker 1: you must be really... I'm sorry, Steve, that's the dumbest
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  Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Mr. Henry, let me tell you something, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just in case people are coming late to the party...
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  Speaker 2: There's not an insult that has not been delivered against
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  Speaker 2: me by your show.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, Steve, I'm sorry about that. That's the
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  Speaker 1: dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's just one more insult.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Steve, you know what? If you're talking about AI,
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  Speaker 1: which has, even if AI achieves this intelligence, this independent intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: you've still not told us how it is that AI
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  Speaker 1: will thus go out into the world and take, you know,
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  Speaker 1: take you down in your trailer.
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  Speaker 2: What is that supposed to mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, whatever it is you're talking about. How's AI going
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  Speaker 1: to take you, pull your pants down... Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Can we stop for a minute? I want the answer,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to get the answer. AI must physically
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  Speaker 3: manifest this evil intent, not just think it.
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  Speaker 1: How will it do it physically?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. The short answer is I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Then what are you worried about? Good question, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks. Good question, Steve. Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 1: It is a good question. How's it going to do that?
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  Speaker 3: How is AI going to take its intention to get
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  Speaker 3: Steve Bozell to buy a case of KY jellies?
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, your wife going on the, what is it,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Dickman show, whatever it was?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And saying that you bought a case of KY jelly.
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  Speaker 2: She was as concerned as I was, and she was
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  Speaker 2: asking Dave Dickman.
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  Speaker 1: You, wait a minute, you're talking about women's soccer and
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you want to know whether you
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  Speaker 1: should get KY jelly?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody having a good time?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty funny, man, you got to admit.
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  Speaker 2: What's funny, Mr. Henry, about AI taking me? If I'm
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  Speaker 2: by myself in my house and I just come in
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  Speaker 2: with it, I've got celery stalk in my mouth, I'm
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  Speaker 2: about to make a salami sandwich and AI comes in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, AI comes in the door and what? You go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is funny. You know, that guy, he brings
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  Speaker 1: it on himself. I don't know. Sometimes I think, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You get with these people. I didn't get with him.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like Steve, though. You know, it really does.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like him, to be frightened. Anything new, anything that's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, not been heard from before, anything that kind
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  Speaker 1: of throws him, he immediately goes to the apocalyptic. The
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  Speaker 1: road warrior taking over in the year 2000 and he
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  Speaker 1: needs a case of KY jelly. And when that didn't happen,
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  Speaker 1: he went, he took it back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He got his money back though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and now we have AI and he's afraid AI
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  Speaker 1: is somehow going to act like the road warrior. He's
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  Speaker 1: afraid that AI is going to take him from behind
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  Speaker 1: in his trailer while he's eating celery and watching, watching that.
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  Speaker 1: What's the guy? Maury Povich eating celery. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Bozell, you cannot say the F you, you said the
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  Speaker 1: F word. F-U-C. Give me the phone, Steve. Don't hang
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  Speaker 1: up on me again. Don't ever do that again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Mr. Henry. I'm sorry. All right.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, you've yet to explain to us how
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  Speaker 1: it is that AI is going to, you know, take you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, and I realize it's a good question,
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  Speaker 2: but aren't you afraid that AI, if it does develop
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  Speaker 2: to the point of what they call the singularity... Come on, Dave,
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  Speaker 2: can I just, Dave, what do you think? AI gets
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  Speaker 2: to singularity. There's no reason to believe that it won't
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  Speaker 2: go around pulling people's pants down. Never mind, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Keep that guy off the air, please.
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  Speaker 2: All right. But, again, I know what you're saying about Y2K.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Steve, I want to ask you, do
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  Speaker 1: you still have that case of KY jelly?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, what an insulting question. Do you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I do, but what does that... Why would you
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  Speaker 1: still have that case? I thought you took it back.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to. They wouldn't give me my money back,
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  Speaker 2: so I kept it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, have you used any of it in the 20
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  Speaker 1: years since?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that question.
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  Speaker 1: Bud, that was really insulting. Get out of here. Get
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  Speaker 1: out of here, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Steve, I'm going to go out on a
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  Speaker 1: limb here and say you've got nothing to worry about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Just like I said back at Y2K, you had nothing
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  Speaker 1: to worry about. You didn't want to listen to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you held on to me, and then you
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  Speaker 1: had the neighbors laughing at you. Remember that?
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  Speaker 2: It was Roy Hutchins, not all the neighbors.
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  Speaker 1: They were laughing at you as you were loading it
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  Speaker 1: back into the bed of your truck to take back
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  Speaker 1: to CVS.
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  Speaker 2: See, this is what I mean. I have a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of neighbors staring at me and pointing my fingers at
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  Speaker 2: me and going, look, say, look at the R-E-T-A-R-D, and
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  Speaker 2: you think that's funny. No, I don't think using that
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  Speaker 2: word's funny, but I think it probably was funny seeing
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  Speaker 2: you loading that case of KY back into the bed
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  Speaker 2: of your truck.
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  Speaker 1: So you are... Well, I guess you can't take it
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  Speaker 1: back now, can you?
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  Speaker 2: No, I can't. No, I've had it for 20-plus years.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know it's still any good?
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  Speaker 2: How do I know it's still any good? I guess
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  Speaker 2: I'll find out. You're right.
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  Speaker 1: If AI breaks into your house, Steve, you can't possibly
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  Speaker 1: be serious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's going to... I'm just... All
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  Speaker 2: I tried to bring up, and all you people did,
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  Speaker 2: was lift your leg to me as I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: if it has malevolent intent. If AI has malevolent intent, okay.
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  Speaker 1: What's to stop it from wanting to... You're going to need...
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: What's to stop it from wanting to take you from behind?
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: What did I tell you?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Technically, yeah. What's to stop it from wanting to take
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: me from behind?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I already told you, it has no... It doesn't have
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the physical wherewithal.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: What?
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: How's it going to do it, Steve, if it's just AI?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: What is it going to do? Is the computer going
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: to mount you? Is your laptop going to attack you
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: from behind?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your laptop will launch itself off the bed and
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: just go, yeah. What did I tell you, man?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Sorry. See, that's, what's his name again?
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Bud Dickman.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: That's Dickman mocking my fear. Mocking my fear and just
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: lifting his leg to the terror that I feel.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, get out of here. You don't feel terror. I
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: heard you go through this back in 2000. Here we
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: go again with this AI. And you still have that
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: case of KY jelly.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank God.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I've heard about enough of that bullshit. Yeah, see,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and Steve, I won't say that he's gotten worse over
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the years, but the same things that made him afraid
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: then still do. So were you anticipating this? Well, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: here we are with this new, remember Y2K was sort
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: of a new technological question mark. And a lot of
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: people reacted in the extreme. And the one thing I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: like about Steve is he's almost like that canary in
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the coal mine. If he's reacting in the extreme, we
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: know that there's somebody else out there that's loading up
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: on the KY jelly. I guess so, yeah. We've got
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Jeff Dowder coming up. He's got some concert dates, right?
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: He's got dates. Yeah, he's got some club dates for us.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Dark Horsehead, Mr.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Poos.
• 17:32
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  Speaker 1: Dauter joining us on our newsmaker line. Jeff is in
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Hermosa Beach, California right now.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And Jeff.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Got some club news?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, Mr. Henry. I'm really excited about Dark Horse.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: We're back at Mr. Pooh's, and I want to let
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: everybody know we had a very fun summer, but it
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: looks like it's going to be even more funner. Or,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, it'll be more funner in the autumn months.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Now, you guys, are you in the bathtub? Yeah, I'm
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: sitting here.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just taking a very quick bath.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Well, that's okay, man.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So....
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Jeff, all right, so I got thrown by that. Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought you'd be out of the tub
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: by now.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not, man. I'm still just, you know, I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: still soaking a little bit. It's just been kind of
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a tough week.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Hey, Jeff, what do you do besides being a musician?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I work for the city of Huntington Beach. I did
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: have a snowplow that I purchasedly bought it. And, I mean,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I personally purchased it. And I said, I purchased Lee.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I bought it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: You drove a snowplow for the city of Huntington Beach
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: where it never snows.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: It was my idea. They said it was lame, so
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I parked it back in my house. I worked for
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the city. I worked for the parts department.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And you also went to Caltech. I just want people
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: to get the background on you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I took mechanical physics at Caltech, and I was
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a professor there of mechanical physics for a summer.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Boy, I'll tell you what, Jeff, for a guy that's
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: got all that going for him, well, I don't know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you've got the Caltech thing going for you, driving a snowplow,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Anyway, what are the dates?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: What are the dates?
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Well, so you've got some dates. Okay, go ahead. The
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: tub's a little loud.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I just dropped the washcloth down. Yeah, so
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: what we've got going on right now, we're really proud
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: to say that Dark Horse has got three big shows
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that we're going to be doing at Coconut Grove, which
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: is a new club.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I've heard of this Coconut Grove. Yeah, but where is
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that located?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Coconut Grove is on Sailboat Lane in Manhattan Beach. So
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to be going between Coconut Grove and Mr. Pooh's.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: For the next three weeks, we've got three big shows
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: at 8 and 11.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: When you say three big shows at 8 and 11,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: what does that mean?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: That means we're going to do three shows. We do
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: one at 8, and we do one at 8.15, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: then we do one at 11.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You do one at 8, 8.15, and 11.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said, man. I'm not stuttering over here.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But you understand, Jeff, that's one show that lasts for
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: 15 minutes, another one that goes for three hours or
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: whatever it is, two hours.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And 45 minutes.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if that's what you say.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: If that's what you say. But we're doing three bigs.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Can I just get this done? Go ahead. So we've
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: got three bigs, Dark Horse, three shows at 8 and
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: 11 with Gus Palvelati is going to be opening. You
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: stink bad. And from San Diego, Chicken Wilson is missing.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That comes up this Saturday night. The doors open at
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: 9 at Coconut Grove, 1111 South Sailboat Lane, Manhattan Beach.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: We'll see you there. I'm Jeff Doughter. I'm loose.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: What does that mean, I'm loose?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's cool. So that's on this Saturday night?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: This Saturday night. Then the following Saturday, we're going to
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: be headlining kind of a special brunch, the 23 Festival
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of Music at the Beach. It's the 2023 Festival of
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Music at the Beach Festival at Chuck Rose Seaside Cafe.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: That's going to be at Seal Beach. Okay. That's going
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to be in Seal Beach. I don't have any band
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: names yet for that one. And then.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: So this is the 20th, what is it?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: This is the 2023 festival, Beach Music at the Beach Festival. Okay.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Beach, okay.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. I mean, I know you guys are sitting
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: there going, this dude must be stoned or something.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Well, none of this stuff, man. It makes... Go on. What, man? Well,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the 2023 Beach Music Festival at the Beach.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I may have the name wrong, man, but right now
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get through this because Bud says
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: there's a limited amount of time. All right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: What's the next one?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Next one is we're going to be at Mr. Pooh's.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: So that's... Mr. Pooh's will be coming up Sunday night.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to be at Mr. Pooh's 7.30 until, okay? So,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: You'll be playing all night, in other words.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. We'll be playing all night from 7.30
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: with Susan's Wind and I'm Now Nude. And that's going
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to be at Mr. Pooh's.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: What are the bands?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Susan's Wind and I'm Now Nude.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Now, you said this band Chicken Wilson.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: What is it? Chicken Wilson's missing. They're from San Diego.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: They just got to deal with processed pompadour records for
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a couple of EPs, which I think will be very excellent.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: When are you guys recording again?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You know, Mr. Henry, it happens when it happens. I mean,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: when you say that, it kind of reminds me of
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the missed opportunities that we've had.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had a record deal, I thought.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: We did, you know, and then we had a couple
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: of guys quit the band. Flats Raymond, he quit the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: band and we lost our drummer, Boneyard Amadillo. What is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the guy, Boneyard Amadillo? Yeah, okay. And then we lost
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: our bass player, Schitt's Giggles.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: The guy's name is Schitt's Giggles. You don't want anybody
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: commenting on that, huh?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Commenting on what, man?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: The guy's name is weird, man.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. But this reminds me of some painful things, man.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: The time we almost had a record deal and then
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Schitt's Giggles quit. And we lost Boneyard Muldoon, man. And
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to tell you, it hurts. It hurts bad.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: We're looking forward to seeing you, Jeff, at Coconut Grove
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: as well as Mr. Pooh's. And, of course, the big
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: festival coming up this weekend.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Next weekend.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, next weekend would be a week from Sunday.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Week from Sunday, yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: All right, man. Are you okay?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Not really, no. It's just you guys are talking to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: me about Boneyard Muldoon and the fact we lost the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: EP deal with Process Pompadour.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I brought it up, man, but all these
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: other bands are getting these deals.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Well, not all these other, but what was the band
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Chicken Wilson's missing. It's got a deal. And Susan's Wind
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: has got a deal with Necrop.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: What is the name of that label?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: What?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: What's the name of the label Sissons Wind is on?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Neck Rub.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Neck Rub.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Congratulations.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Hey, Mr. Rennie, I hear you. Neck Rub. You think
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: all of this is pretty weird, but this is the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: music business today, and I'm just trying to keep up,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you know? It's all I can do.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: You guys have been together for a long time. You
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: had that great period, the darkness at sunrise period, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: now you cats just seem to be.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: What? We just seem to suck? God damn it. Thanks
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: No, you don't suck, Jeff. What are you saying you suck?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That's what you're basically saying. That we're sitting here just doing,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: gigging over there at Coconut Grove and Mr. Poos and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: everybody else is off playing the Us Festival.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: We'll see you later, Jeff, okay?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fine. All right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Jeff, it's going to be great.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm just splashing around in the tub.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm doing, man.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: All right, have a good bath. We'll talk to you later, huh?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Jeff Dowder.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Well, the band has been around a long time, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: they did go through their darkness at sunrise.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: They went through a couple of periods there of great success. Yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's going to do with the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: band now, but they seem to be the house band
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of Mr. Pooh's, and there's this new club called Coconut Grode. Yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Coconut Grode.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody goes there. Do they? Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: But all these other groups like Chicken Wilson is missing
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and Susan's Wind, they're all getting record deals. What are
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you laughing at? Nothing. I'm not laughing at anything, man. Oh,
• 25:58
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• 26:03
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