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Did rodeo queen help Colorado fiance' cover up Kelsey Berreth's murder? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Thanksgiving is the last known
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Speaker 1: time Kelsey Barrett was seen in public. It was at
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Speaker 1: this Safeway store where she was captured by the store
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Speaker 1: security cameras. Cheryl Barrett says she spoke with Kelsey by
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Speaker 1: phone that day twice. What did you talk about that day?
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Speaker 1: Always just small things and initially she needed a recipe
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Speaker 1: based on that conversation. There was nothing to make you
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Speaker 1: believe there is anything wrong exactly. Yeah, her voice was fine,
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Speaker 1: she was, Yeah, she was. It was a normal day
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Speaker 1: for her. Patrick Phrasie stayed silent as he walked into
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Speaker 1: a Teller County courtroom. Inside, he spoke just once when
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Speaker 1: he waived his right to have a preliminary hearing within
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Speaker 1: thirty five days. That will give his attorneys more time
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Speaker 1: to prepare. It is an ongoing active investigation. Prosecutors have
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Speaker 1: told us they believe Kelsey Barrett was killed inside her
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Speaker 1: home around Thanksgiving. Two counts of first degree murder and
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Speaker 1: that phrase did not act alone. We also have three
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Speaker 1: separate counts of solicitation. The district attorney says they have
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Speaker 1: two theories, but will not reveal what evidence they have
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Speaker 1: in a case with more questions than answers, I can
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Speaker 1: I talk to you about any potential motives in this case.
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Speaker 1: You are hearing from our friends at KKTV, that's Catherine
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Speaker 1: Silver and from NBC Joe Friar. The very latest in
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Speaker 1: the case of missing Colorado mom Kelsey Barett. As the
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Speaker 1: plot seemingly thickens in the last hours, a female nurse,
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Speaker 1: age thirty two, now suspected of disposing the missing mom's
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Speaker 1: cell phone. A divorced mother of two herself, was she
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Speaker 1: having an affair with the killer fiance Patrick Frazy. This
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Speaker 1: as other news emerging shedding light on what happened to
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Speaker 1: the beautiful young mom, last seen in a safe Way
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Speaker 1: grocery with her little talk girl just one year old.
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Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel, Ashley Willcott, judge and
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Speaker 1: lawyer Vincent Hill, cop turned PI Karen Start, New York
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Speaker 1: psychologist Alexis Terreschuk, reporter with Radar Online dot Com and
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Speaker 1: from Crime Online dot Com. Ellen Colaurin, First to you,
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Speaker 1: Alexis Terrestchuck, what another woman? I mean? He's not even
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Speaker 1: married to Kelsey Barett, So I guess you're cheating on
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Speaker 1: your girlfriend. One I mean, it's not only they're going
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Speaker 1: to have a big divorce and split up property. Why
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Speaker 1: not just break up? What do you know about this
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Speaker 1: thirty two year old nurse? So this woman a second
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Speaker 1: woman his surface, but Patrick apparently, and people are saying
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Speaker 1: that she might be his mistress and that she helped
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Speaker 1: dispose Kelsey's cell phone because she was found. The phone
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Speaker 1: was found three states away, and this woman has now
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Speaker 1: been questioned by the police. And this is the thing
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Speaker 1: they police accept from the beginning. They do not believe
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Speaker 1: that Patrick committed this crime alone, that he had to
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Speaker 1: have help. Well, this is probably the biggest piece of
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Speaker 1: evidence that we've had so far that someone else was involved,
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Speaker 1: because it's something physical, because we don't have her body.
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Speaker 1: No one has her body, but her cell phone is
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Speaker 1: found in Idaho, three states away. And yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: you're right, Alexis Stresscha investigator with Radar online dot Com. Alexis,
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right when you say. Police theorize that the
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Speaker 1: fiance Phrasey never left the state from Thanksgiving until the
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Speaker 1: search was on, which means if he didn't live the state,
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Speaker 1: how did he, if he's guilty, get her cell phone.
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Speaker 1: Nearly eight hundred miles away, now emerging a thirty two
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Speaker 1: year old divorced mother of two who was apparently having
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Speaker 1: a sex affair with a so called killer fiance, Patrick
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Speaker 1: Frasy Listen. Patrick Frazy appeared for his daughter's custody hearing
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Speaker 1: on Thursday and made questions about his relationship with a
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Speaker 1: woman from Idaho. Law enforcement sources say they are now
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Speaker 1: looking at a thirty two year old nurse who possibly
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Speaker 1: disposed of Kelsey Bear's phone, the last sign of life
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Speaker 1: from the missing Colorado mom, who was last seen Thanksgiving
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Speaker 1: Day shopping with her one year old daughter. The woman
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Speaker 1: in question is reportedly from Twin Falls, Idaho, not far
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Speaker 1: from where Beart's phone pinged on November twenty fifth, The
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Speaker 1: Twin Falls SHARE's office confirming to NBC News that they've
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Speaker 1: served urch warrants in the case. Some evidence was collected
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Speaker 1: and processed earlier this week. Prosecutors suggested others could be involved.
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Speaker 1: There potentially could be other people arrested in this case.
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Speaker 1: A body has yet to be found, but authorities no
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Speaker 1: longer believed that the twenty nine year old is alive.
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Speaker 1: Offering two theories about Barrat's death, each one represented by
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Speaker 1: account of first degree murder against Bearer's fiance, Patrick Frazy.
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Speaker 1: One alleges Barrett was killed deliberately, the other alleges she
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Speaker 1: died during a robbery he commissioned. Frazy also faces three
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Speaker 1: counts of solicitation to commit murder in the months leading
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Speaker 1: up to Barrat's disappearance. Court documents not giving any details
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Speaker 1: about who we approached or insight as to why prosecutors
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Speaker 1: think Phrasey is responsible for his fiance's death. Straight out
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Speaker 1: to judge, Anne Lawyer asked you, Wilcott, you can find
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Speaker 1: her at ask you Wilcott dot com. Ashley, I see
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Speaker 1: what they're doing in the indictment. Just because there are
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Speaker 1: multiple accounts is not made that there are more, there's
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Speaker 1: more than one other person involved. What they're doing, it
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Speaker 1: sounds to me is they are indicting in the alternative
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Speaker 1: and I always did that once I understood what needed
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Speaker 1: to be done. When you're indicting or going to the
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Speaker 1: grand jury, if you've got a murder, one, you charge
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Speaker 1: with murder. Okay, if you want to be safe, you
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Speaker 1: can go ahead and include all the less are included,
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Speaker 1: such as voluntary involuntary murder too. But they're also charging
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Speaker 1: felony murder is what it seems like to me that
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Speaker 1: the death occurred during the commission of a robbery, which
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Speaker 1: means if there was a robbery and a death occurred,
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Speaker 1: whether intentional or not, then that's a murder. I think
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Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. What do you think, Ashley, Oh,
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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you, Nancy. I think part of
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Speaker 1: the reason they're doing that is, don't forget. We don't
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Speaker 1: have a body. We do not know what happened to her,
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Speaker 1: and because of that, they don't yet know it. It's
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Speaker 1: an intentional, accidental, so to speak, in commission of a
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Speaker 1: robbery or not. So I think it's very smart on
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Speaker 1: their part. You know what we are hearing to investigative
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Speaker 1: journalist Ellen Colauren with Crime online dot Com A robbery
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Speaker 1: that's really not fitting in with a theory that it
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Speaker 1: was a killing, a murder of passion, of red hot blood,
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Speaker 1: of anger, maybe over a breakup, that he was leaving
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Speaker 1: her and they got in an argument and he killed her.
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Speaker 1: That's one working theory. Now this woman emerges, What can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about this divorced mother of two that
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Speaker 1: coincidentally is from twins Fall, Idaho, near where Kelsey's phone
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Speaker 1: paying blast Yes Nancy. Multiple news outlets, but not authorities,
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Speaker 1: have identified this woman. Her name is Crystal Lee, and
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Speaker 1: one interesting thing about what we've learned about her is
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Speaker 1: that it seems like she may have no Crazy for years,
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Speaker 1: possibly even longer than Kelsey barrassed because they met in
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Apparently this woman she's on a leave of
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Speaker 1: absence now, but she worked as a nurse in Twin Falls, Idaho.
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Speaker 1: But she was also involved in rodeo, which is something
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Speaker 1: that Patrick Crazy is involved in as well. And we
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Speaker 1: believe that at one time she did live in Colorado,
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Speaker 1: so their history may go back pretty far. We also
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Speaker 1: aren't sure what the status of Patrick and Kelsey's relationship
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Speaker 1: was at the time that she went missing. We have
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Speaker 1: conflicting stories. One four says that they broke up on Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 1: Other sources, friends and phrases have told us outlooks that
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Speaker 1: they haven't been together for a year. So there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of unknowns, but it's looking more and more likely
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Speaker 1: that this nurse and Twin Falls. Whether she's been involved
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Speaker 1: or not, she certainly appears to know something and it
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Speaker 1: does this to her. Ellen Alan Colaurin joining me from
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Speaker 1: crime online dot Com along with Alexis tread Shut from
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Speaker 1: Radar online dot com. I know this. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how long this nurse is divorced, mother of two has
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Speaker 1: been having a sex relationship with the so called killer fiance,
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Speaker 1: but I do know this. According to reports, fiance Patrick Frazy,
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Speaker 1: plotted for three months to kill Kilsey Barrett. Patrick Frazy,
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Speaker 1: who was formally charged with five felonies, was allegedly looking
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Speaker 1: for someone to take out the mother of his infant daughter.
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Speaker 1: It's just the latest plot twist in the Missing Mom
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Speaker 1: investigation captivating the nation. Patrick Frazy was handcuffed with shackles
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Speaker 1: around his ankles as he entered court. Frasie remained silent
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Speaker 1: as he heard the charges against him, two counts of
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Speaker 1: first degree murder and three counts of solicitation to commit
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Speaker 1: murder in the first degree. Investigators have two different theories
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Speaker 1: of his alleged crime. One theory claims Frazy intended to
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Speaker 1: deliberately kill his twenty nine year old Kelsey Barrett. The
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Speaker 1: other says she was murdered as part of a robbery.
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Speaker 1: All facts in this case or under sealed, so I
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Speaker 1: cannot talk to you about any potential motives in this case,
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Speaker 1: there potentially could be other people arrested. According to court documents,
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Speaker 1: prosecutors believe Phrasie tried to hire someone to kill Barrett
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Speaker 1: between September first and November first, twenty eighteen. This morning,
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Speaker 1: the District Attorney's office filed five felony counts against mister Phrasie,
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Speaker 1: two counts of first degree murder. Obviously, there was only
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Speaker 1: one murder in this case. Under Colorado law, we file
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Speaker 1: separate counts under different theories of first degree murder. We
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Speaker 1: filed under two theories. One is deliberation murder and the
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Speaker 1: other is felony murder. Felony murder in this case has
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Speaker 1: set out in the charge is that when you robbed
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Speaker 1: somebody and they die during the robbery, that is also
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Speaker 1: first degree murder. So we filed under both theories in
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Speaker 1: this case. We also have three separate counts of solicitation
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Speaker 1: and those are three separate counts. They are not different
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Speaker 1: theories in this case. So it's a total of five counts,
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Speaker 1: two counts of first degree murder, three counts of solicitation
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Speaker 1: that were filed against mister Frazie in this case. In
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Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours. It is emerging that a
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Speaker 1: female nurse, a thirty two year old mother of two
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Speaker 1: now divorced, was having a sex affair with a so
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Speaker 1: called killer fiance, Patrick Phrazy. We know that Kelsey Barrett,
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Speaker 1: the mother of his one year old little girl, Kelly,
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Speaker 1: has been missing since Thanksgiving, last seen on surveillance video
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Speaker 1: at a Safeway grocery store with her taught Kelly. We
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Speaker 1: also know that Phrasey visited her at her town home
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Speaker 1: just before she's reported missing, well just before she disappears.
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Speaker 1: We know that his red pickup truck was pulled in
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Speaker 1: perpendicular to her two vehicles and stayed there for a
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Speaker 1: period of time. According to a neighbor, Why why did
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Speaker 1: he have her cars pinned in? Now reports that he
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Speaker 1: had been planning to have her killed for three months.
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Speaker 1: This as is so called other woman is emergent. I
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Speaker 1: don't even know if you can really call it another
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Speaker 1: woman when you're not married to start with, but straight
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Speaker 1: out to you, Ellen klaurin Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
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Speaker 1: we just heard the district attorney stating that there were
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Speaker 1: three different theories, separate theories versus three separate charges of solicitation.
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Speaker 1: These differentiated between those two. Explain quickly. So the two
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Speaker 1: separate murder charges are based on two separate theories. As
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Speaker 1: you guys previously discussed, there's no bodies, so they're they're
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Speaker 1: being smart and careful in making sure that there's there's
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Speaker 1: grounds for different types of scenariosm which Kelsey Barth was
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Speaker 1: presumably murdered. However, the solicitation charges, those are not based
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Speaker 1: on separate theories. Those there's three separate incidents. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean that paper Crazy allegedly solicited three separate individuals, but
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Speaker 1: there were three separate incidents or occasions in which he
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Speaker 1: sought help in plotting the murder of the mother of
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Speaker 1: his child, dating back to September. So to you, Alexis Reschuk,
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Speaker 1: investigative journalists with Radar online dot com, this woman, this
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Speaker 1: divorced mom of two, who we think may have known
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Speaker 1: him through the rodeo. What exactly is the suspicion that
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Speaker 1: she helped get rid of the cell phone? What do
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Speaker 1: they think she did? They do they think that she
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Speaker 1: did help get rid of the cell phone because the murder, well,
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Speaker 1: the disappearance happened in Colorado, but kelsey cellphone was found
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Speaker 1: in Idaho. There is there's you know, trade or going
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Speaker 1: to Idaho. There's nothing like that. There's nothing that would
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Speaker 1: would have her there at all. But this woman lives
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Speaker 1: in Idaho and she has known Patrick for years, and
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Speaker 1: so that is why this is come to a head,
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Speaker 1: that this is why she's now out there. Well, hold
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Speaker 1: on just a moment, let me understand this to Vincent Hill,
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Speaker 1: former cop turn Pi, author of playbook to a Murderer,
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Speaker 1: which you can find on Amazon. Vincent Hill, what that
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Speaker 1: means to me when I'm making of what Alexis Treschuk
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Speaker 1: and Ellen Colorna are telling me. If Patrick Frasy never
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Speaker 1: left the Colorado jurisdiction after Kelsey was killed, and we
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Speaker 1: think that occurred in her town home has to be
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Speaker 1: because of something not visible to the naked eye, because
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Speaker 1: Kelsey's brother went in and didn't see blood. But then
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Speaker 1: after cop spent about a day in there, they then
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Speaker 1: announced they think Kelsey was killed there. I'm guessing they
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Speaker 1: found evidence through lumin all that shows a blood through
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Speaker 1: kind of like a black light light. Anyway, that aside,
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Speaker 1: that would mean that whoever got rid of the phone
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Speaker 1: had to come to him. If he never left the jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: Whoever dump the phone somewhere in Idaho would have had
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Speaker 1: to come to him to get it because she was
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Speaker 1: just on the phone with her mother that day with
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Speaker 1: her cell phone. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Nancy. And a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we were baffled of how the
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Speaker 1: phone ended up and so far away. Now it's making sense,
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Speaker 1: and maybe this nurse or whoever she is, was there
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Speaker 1: actually seeing her lover on Thanksgiving and he said, hey,
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Speaker 1: why don't you take this phone back, and by the way,
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Speaker 1: when you get there, turning on and send some text
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Speaker 1: messages so we can make it appear that Kelsey is
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Speaker 1: actually alive. And well, you know, I don't get it.
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Speaker 1: Karen Stark, well known New York psychologists, joining us today
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Speaker 1: from Manhattan. Karen, well, let's think this thing through again.
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Speaker 1: This woman has not been charged period. Even if she
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Speaker 1: had been charged, she still presumed innocent until she's proven
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Speaker 1: guilty in a court of law. Let's just carry through
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Speaker 1: this theory that she somehow did this thing to cover
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Speaker 1: up the murder of Kelsey. Beareth That means she would
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Speaker 1: have to have I guess, left her two children, driven
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Speaker 1: to Idaho, got in the phone, and you gotta wonder
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Speaker 1: didn't she ask why do you want me to drive
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Speaker 1: to Idaho and get rid of the phone and then
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Speaker 1: send text to my girlfriend's boss and to me. I mean,
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Speaker 1: she had to know, if this is true, what she
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Speaker 1: was doing right, So let's thank this three. That's my
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Speaker 1: first question to you, Karen. My second question is do
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Speaker 1: you go along with the theory that people always cheat down?
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Speaker 1: Because I mean, look at cheat don't. Don't look at
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Speaker 1: me like that, Jackie. What I mean is you trade
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Speaker 1: in a Cadillac for a used Ford Escort. That's what
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Speaker 1: cheating down is. Okay. What I'm saying is, I'm Kelsey Beareth,
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Speaker 1: beautiful flight instructor, just bought, you know, put money down
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Speaker 1: on a new home, got it all together, having family.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe let people cheat down? And if so, why,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that would be what I would say, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: What I'm thinking about when it comes to Patrick Crazy
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Speaker 1: is that I'm not talking about Patrick crazy, Karen. I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about in general, but in general, Nancy, including Patrick Crazy.
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Speaker 1: What I think about somebody who's a psychopath who's capable
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Speaker 1: of murder is that they really don't distinguish between a
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Speaker 1: Cadillac and a Jelope, So I feel like it's all
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Speaker 1: the same to them, one woman another woman. They're not
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Speaker 1: capable of having feelings, so there's no true attachment and connection.
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Speaker 1: Then I'm not saying that this woman, this divorced mother
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Speaker 1: of two that he met at the rodeo. Pay. I
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Speaker 1: love the rodeo, So I'm not it's not about that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he cheated down. I'm just saying in general,
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Speaker 1: you know, do people cheat down? But you're saying you
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Speaker 1: don't know, Karen, just to jog your memory. We've had
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Speaker 1: this discussion many many times, and in the Pastor told me,
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Speaker 1: you say people cheat down, But I'm impeaching you on
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Speaker 1: a prior inconsistent statement, as she willcot. I got to
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Speaker 1: hear your take on this. I am so over all
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Speaker 1: of the cheating, cheating down, all of it. I do
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Speaker 1: not understand whether they're married or not, they have a
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Speaker 1: child together. If you want to be with someone else,
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Speaker 1: break up with someone else, do not resort to murder.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Kelsey's mom. I still know somebody
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Speaker 1: knows where she's at, somebody has seen her. There's more
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Speaker 1: information out there. Somebody just needs to realize, to recognize,
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Speaker 1: than to say something. Has she ever disappeared before? No? No,
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Speaker 1: I can't think of anywhere she's ever gone that she
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Speaker 1: hasn't told me. It's just not in her character to
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Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. The family of Kelsey Barrett
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Speaker 1: is now taking her accused killer to civil court. The
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Speaker 1: Woodland Park mother's relatives have filed a wrongful death lawsuit
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Speaker 1: against Patrick Frazy, who was Kelsey's fiance. Kelsey has not
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Speaker 1: been seen since Thanksgiving and is now presumed dead as
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Speaker 1: investigators still searched for her body. Frazy still sits in jail.
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Speaker 1: The Barrett's family's new lawsuit looks back at the couple's
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Speaker 1: relationship before the alleged murder. They're also suing for negligence,
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Speaker 1: arguing Phrasey carried out physical, mental, and emotional acts of
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Speaker 1: violence against Kelsey. You're hearing Denver nine Niese reporter talking
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Speaker 1: about a wrongful death lawsuit that has just been filed
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Speaker 1: by Kelsey's parents against her so called killer fiance, Patrick Frazy.
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Speaker 1: This as it emerges that he has been having a
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Speaker 1: sex affair for some time with a nurse out of Idaho.
22:18
Speaker 1: And do we care about that? No, we don't. But
22:21
Speaker 1: what I do care about is that Kelsey's cell phone
22:24
Speaker 1: pinged off a tower in Idaho's rural Goodie County. And
22:28
Speaker 1: that is just barely north of Twins Twin Falls. Now
22:33
Speaker 1: Twin Falls is where this divorced mother of two, this
22:36
Speaker 1: nurse lives. The ping was three days after Kelsey was
22:40
Speaker 1: last seen alive. Police believe this woman, this nurse, visited
22:48
Speaker 1: Phrasey for the holiday for Christmas break at his home
22:53
Speaker 1: in Florescent, Colorado. Now that would have been Thanksgiving break
22:59
Speaker 1: because this broke right after that. Now Phrasey is thirty
23:03
Speaker 1: years old, Beer at twenty nine. They have a one
23:05
Speaker 1: year old daughter, Kelly, who was now the focus of
23:10
Speaker 1: a custody battle between both of their parents, Kelsey's and Phrase's.
23:16
Speaker 1: Now the lawsuit a wrongful death civil lawsuit filed by
23:20
Speaker 1: Kelsey's parents. Straight out to Alan Duke joining us. They're
23:24
Speaker 1: in La Alan, Your sources are telling you this is
23:28
Speaker 1: not about the money. It's being used as an investigative tool.
23:32
Speaker 1: Explain that it is in order to get depositions. And
23:36
Speaker 1: by the way, he was served in jail yesterday. I'm
23:39
Speaker 1: told by my source close to the family it is
23:41
Speaker 1: in order to give them an extra investigative tool. Perhaps
23:46
Speaker 1: the lawyers, the civil lawyers in this suit, can do
23:49
Speaker 1: depositions that will help them lead to Kelsey where is she?
23:53
Speaker 1: That's what the family really wants to know at this point,
23:56
Speaker 1: and now they can start issuing subpoenas in order to
23:59
Speaker 1: find that out well. Ashley Wilcott, Atlanta judge and lawyer. Actually,
24:04
Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're charged with a crime, you
24:06
Speaker 1: don't have to submit to testimony in a civil deposition.
24:09
Speaker 1: So they're not going to get Phrasey to talk no
24:12
Speaker 1: matter what. No. I agree with you, Nancy. So it's
24:15
Speaker 1: interesting to me that they have filed out and that
24:17
Speaker 1: the working theory is they've done that in order to investigate.
24:20
Speaker 1: The only thing I wonder is if by doing that
24:22
Speaker 1: they've employed a law firm that has more resources than
24:26
Speaker 1: they may individually have to hire investigators and have the
24:29
Speaker 1: people do the investigation that they want in this case.
24:32
Speaker 1: And while they may not be able to force Phrasey
24:35
Speaker 1: to speak under his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent,
24:39
Speaker 1: they can get other people deposed, like the nurse who
24:43
Speaker 1: may have been having an affair with him, like his mother,
24:46
Speaker 1: who has been his staunch defender throughout and has been
24:49
Speaker 1: at every single one of her son's hearing, even when
24:52
Speaker 1: she was detained. When he was arrested, she stuck by him.
24:56
Speaker 1: Through thick and thin, all of those people can be
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Speaker 1: rejected to testify at a civil hearing, a civil deposition,
25:04
Speaker 1: unlike Phrasey himself. So right now, ellenkorlaurin Crime online dot
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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporters, so much happening. You got the wrongful
25:11
Speaker 1: death lawsuit. You have the documents which you are just
25:15
Speaker 1: publishing at crime online dot com. Right now, What can
25:19
Speaker 1: you tell me what's in those wrongful death documents? Well,
25:22
Speaker 1: one thing to note about the wrongful death lawsuit is
25:24
Speaker 1: it's the first acknowledgement that Bari's family has made that
25:28
Speaker 1: they believe Kelsey is dead. The last time that they
25:32
Speaker 1: were speaking to the media, they thought that she was
25:35
Speaker 1: missing and we're hoping that she would come home safely.
25:39
Speaker 1: One interesting thing to me that jumped out in the docks,
25:42
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have a specific timeline, but the documents
25:45
Speaker 1: do accuse Patrick Crazy of physical, mental, and emotional acts
25:52
Speaker 1: of violence prior to the presumed murder. Now we don't
25:57
Speaker 1: know if this is minutes or hours, or months or
26:00
Speaker 1: years prior, but that's something that jumped out at me
26:03
Speaker 1: and it suggests to me a little bit more about
26:06
Speaker 1: the nature of the relationship and his kinds of behavior.
26:10
Speaker 1: We were talking earlier about his infidelity, his presumed infidelity,
26:14
Speaker 1: and I wanted to I remembered one thing that we
26:16
Speaker 1: have learned. A few weeks ago, a source spoke to
26:19
Speaker 1: The Daily Nail who was the boyfriend of one of
26:22
Speaker 1: Frazie's former girlfriends, and that source said that Phrasie cheated
26:25
Speaker 1: on that woman when she was in the hospital. So
26:29
Speaker 1: it seems like we're looking at a pattern of someone
26:31
Speaker 1: here who doesn't have a lot of loyalty and certainly
26:34
Speaker 1: seems to sleep around. Well, here's the thing. You also said,
26:36
Speaker 1: Ellen Klaurin, that there there were some people that said
26:39
Speaker 1: they had already broken up, that Phrasie and Kelsey Bareth
26:42
Speaker 1: had already broken up at the time she was killed.
26:45
Speaker 1: Why why do you say that? Because a friend of
26:49
Speaker 1: Phrasie's who is in Colorado, a woman, spoke to a
26:52
Speaker 1: local news outlet and she said she defended Phrazy. She
26:56
Speaker 1: said she couldn't believe he had possibly done anything wrong.
26:59
Speaker 1: She said that Kelsey and Patrick had broken up a
27:02
Speaker 1: year prior, and she also claimed that Patrick was the
27:06
Speaker 1: primary caregiver of their one year old. Oh please stop,
27:10
Speaker 1: stop stop, I mean, you know what I'm gonna take that,
27:14
Speaker 1: Alexis Terres Schuck writer online, I'm gonna take that with
27:18
Speaker 1: a box of salt, not a grain as salt, a
27:21
Speaker 1: box of salt. Because his friend of Phrasey is getting
27:23
Speaker 1: all that from Phrasey. Okay, so he was not the
27:29
Speaker 1: main caregiver. I don't believe that. And if he's telling
27:33
Speaker 1: people he's been broken up with Kelsey for a year,
27:35
Speaker 1: it's probably because he wants to sleep with him. That
27:39
Speaker 1: is what men. These men do when they are trying
27:41
Speaker 1: to pretend then they don't significant other so that they
27:45
Speaker 1: can sleep with everybody. That's what Chris Wats did. He said, Oh,
27:47
Speaker 1: I'm I'm divorced, I'm not even with my wife. We're
27:50
Speaker 1: selling our house, months and months before he ever told
27:52
Speaker 1: her that, so that he could sleep with another woman.
27:54
Speaker 1: And the thing is about the little girl. To see
27:56
Speaker 1: him saying that he had primary custody. He did not.
27:59
Speaker 1: Ch was always with that little baby and her parents
28:03
Speaker 1: are now failing to fight his parents for custody. He
28:05
Speaker 1: is in jail for murder of Kelsey and his mom
28:08
Speaker 1: thinks that she should have custody, but but her on
28:12
Speaker 1: the court to fight, and they have been there every
28:14
Speaker 1: time for custody and the judge thankfully a war custody
28:18
Speaker 1: of a little girl. But the mom, his mom is
28:20
Speaker 1: trying to get custody too, And yeah, you know that
28:23
Speaker 1: takes a lot of nerve when your son is charged
28:25
Speaker 1: with murdering the baby's mom and you're trying to get
28:27
Speaker 1: the baby right now. And this may actually have a
28:31
Speaker 1: significant impact on the trial. The status of the relationship
28:35
Speaker 1: between Patrick Frasie and Kelsey Bareth now believed dead at
28:39
Speaker 1: the time she was killed, still nobody, So the state
28:43
Speaker 1: has a problem. Yes, technically they can go forward practically speaking,
28:47
Speaker 1: and not as easy. Jury is going to be looking
28:50
Speaker 1: for motive even though the state doesn't have to prove it.
28:53
Speaker 1: And now details emerging about Bareth and Phrasey's relationship with
28:57
Speaker 1: friends stating that the two had ended their relationship months before. Now,
29:04
Speaker 1: think about it, Think about it, Ashley Willcot. If they
29:08
Speaker 1: ended their relationship months before, does that go hand in
29:12
Speaker 1: hand with the state's allegation that he had been planning
29:16
Speaker 1: the murder for about three months? Did he start planning
29:20
Speaker 1: the murder when they broke up? That they ended their relationship? Now,
29:24
Speaker 1: according to Barret's relative, specifically her aunt tam Or Freeman.
29:29
Speaker 1: She said they had a great relationship and that they
29:33
Speaker 1: had a great relationship up until the day Barrett went missing.
29:38
Speaker 1: Did they break up on that day or did they
29:41
Speaker 1: break up three months before? Ashley when, according to the state,
29:45
Speaker 1: he started planning her murder, Well, I think he started
29:48
Speaker 1: planning the murder before it happened. These things don't happen
29:51
Speaker 1: overnight unless it's a crime of passion. If it's a
29:53
Speaker 1: crime of passion, then you don't have all these links
29:55
Speaker 1: to another woman and another place, who had the cell phone,
29:58
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So I think he'd been planning it.
30:01
Speaker 1: But I need to say this, Nancy, I think that
30:03
Speaker 1: he could be planning it without them having broken up,
30:06
Speaker 1: because if they've been broken up for three months, as
30:08
Speaker 1: close as reports say that she was to her mother,
30:11
Speaker 1: I think her mother would have known that. Take a
30:13
Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Inside Editions speaking to Sonia Oliver.
30:18
Speaker 1: As police step up the search for a missing mom,
30:20
Speaker 1: a friend is coming to the defense of the fiance
30:23
Speaker 1: at the center of the mystery. Police say Patrick Frazy
30:26
Speaker 1: is the last person to have seen twenty nine year
30:28
Speaker 1: old Kelsey Barrett alive. I was considered him to be
30:32
Speaker 1: a gentle soul, soft spoken, and just really down to
30:39
Speaker 1: earth and practical Sonja Oliver says she has known Fray
30:42
Speaker 1: a rancher for five years. Do you think he possibly
30:46
Speaker 1: had anything to do with his fiance's disappearance. I couldn't
30:49
Speaker 1: imagine him doing anything that would harm anyone. You personally
30:53
Speaker 1: do not believe he had anything to do with it.
30:55
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine Patrick doing anything like that. Police
30:59
Speaker 1: say Frey. He has so far refused to talk to them.
31:02
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that everything pans out to be okay.
31:05
Speaker 1: She's lived off Lake Avenue for years, sharing cordial conversation
31:09
Speaker 1: even family stories with Kelsey Barrett. She's an awesome person.
31:13
Speaker 1: She's so kind and so you could tell she's a
31:16
Speaker 1: very kindhearted person. The neighbor didn't want us showing her
31:19
Speaker 1: face or using her real name to prevent excess attention.
31:22
Speaker 1: But she offers new details on activity at Kelsey's home
31:25
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day. What do you remember seeing Thanksgiving Day? Just
31:29
Speaker 1: up the road here? I looked up there and there
31:31
Speaker 1: was both red pickups up there Thanksgiving Day, and that
31:34
Speaker 1: was from about twelve thirty to one. She says she
31:37
Speaker 1: never saw anybody but the information aligns with what Frasey
31:40
Speaker 1: told police through his attorney, saying he picked up their
31:43
Speaker 1: daughters sometime Thanksgiving Day. The safeway surveillance video includes a
31:47
Speaker 1: twelve oh five timestamp, meaning the truck would have arrived
31:50
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter the other two cars were part with the
31:55
Speaker 1: vehicles facing the apartment, but his was parked sideways behind them.
31:59
Speaker 1: The neighbors says it's the same chunk she's seen the
32:01
Speaker 1: last two years driven by a man picking up and
32:04
Speaker 1: dropping off of baby. When I showed her video of
32:06
Speaker 1: Phrasey's truck towed off his property Friday, she says it
32:10
Speaker 1: looks the same. The very latest in the search for
32:13
Speaker 1: missing Colorado mom Kelsey Barrett the flight instruct her mother
32:16
Speaker 1: of a one year old little girl, Keilly. Everything was
32:19
Speaker 1: fine that morning. She called her mom to ask for
32:21
Speaker 1: a recipe. She had her house neat as a pen.
32:26
Speaker 1: She was supposed to hand off baby Kelly to her
32:29
Speaker 1: bio dad, Patrick Frazy, her fiancee. Then everything goes sideways.
32:36
Speaker 1: Kelsey's brother goes into her home looking for her and
32:39
Speaker 1: says everything is in order. There are sinnamon rolls that
32:41
Speaker 1: have cooled on the counter. Everything's there, including her luggage.
32:45
Speaker 1: Her cell phone is missing. That cell phone peeings three
32:49
Speaker 1: days later, eight hundred miles away in Idaho, coincidentally, just
32:53
Speaker 1: a couple of miles from Phrasey's girlfriend, a divorced mother
33:00
Speaker 1: of two he met on the Rodeo circuit. Straight out
33:02
Speaker 1: to Ellen klauran crime online dot Com investigative reporter, in
33:05
Speaker 1: the last hours, a wrongful death case filed against Phrasey
33:09
Speaker 1: that can compel other witnesses to go under oath under deposition,
33:13
Speaker 1: not the defendant himself. This as all eyes focused now
33:18
Speaker 1: twin Falls, Idaho. Is this nurse, this divorced mother of two,
33:23
Speaker 1: the next person to be charged right now? She has
33:26
Speaker 1: not been charged. She has not been named a suspect.
33:30
Speaker 1: What else is the very latest to you, Ellen Colaurin.
33:33
Speaker 1: Authorities have not named any further suspects. But one thing
33:36
Speaker 1: to remember is that on December twenty first, when Breezy
33:39
Speaker 1: was first taken into custody, Colorado authorities sat at a
33:42
Speaker 1: press conference at additional arrests were a strong possibility. And
33:47
Speaker 1: in the new court filing that shows that kelseys parents
33:51
Speaker 1: have filed the civil suit against Patrick Crazy for the
33:54
Speaker 1: death of Kelsey Spris, it says that Deracusey of either
34:01
Speaker 1: directing or being involved in her murder. So there's an
34:04
Speaker 1: implication in these court documents that they believe that Pray
34:09
Speaker 1: may have even commissioned someone else to do it. Man,
34:13
Speaker 1: that's some cold blood to Ashley Wilcot, juvenile judge and lawyer.
34:18
Speaker 1: You can find her Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley, if
34:21
Speaker 1: he asked someone to kill her, a jury is going
34:25
Speaker 1: to have no mercy. That's not like they had an
34:27
Speaker 1: argument and he pushed her and she fell and hit
34:29
Speaker 1: her head. No, that is cold blood, as we say
34:32
Speaker 1: in the law. Absolutely, it's still murder. Even if you
34:36
Speaker 1: don't actually you know, you're not the one with the
34:38
Speaker 1: weapon in your hand. If you instruct someone to do it,
34:41
Speaker 1: you're still murdering that person, and a jury is going
34:43
Speaker 1: to see that. Well. Murder for high or also is
34:46
Speaker 1: the grounds to seek the death penalty. Karen Start, you're
34:49
Speaker 1: the psychologist. Do you see a difference in the frame
34:52
Speaker 1: of mind of an angry discussion you push somebody they
34:56
Speaker 1: father hit the head, or you pull out a gun
34:58
Speaker 1: and shot in the midst of a quarrel, versus planning
35:01
Speaker 1: months ahead of time to have someone murdered I do, Nancy,
35:07
Speaker 1: and I think it's really important to point that out
35:09
Speaker 1: because one is happening while you're in the heat of
35:12
Speaker 1: emotion and juries. Do take that into account when you
35:17
Speaker 1: can't really think as clearly as you might think in
35:19
Speaker 1: a different situation, when something happens that you didn't intend
35:22
Speaker 1: to have happened. The other is cold blooded murder. It's
35:26
Speaker 1: being planned, it's very carefully worked out. It's someone who
35:30
Speaker 1: has that mind where they're thinking, well, the best way
35:34
Speaker 1: for me to deal with this is to kill the
35:36
Speaker 1: person rather than separate from them. Just it gives them
35:41
Speaker 1: pleasure to make sure that they get rid of the
35:44
Speaker 1: person that they're with. They have no feelings. You know
35:46
Speaker 1: this at Hill Private Investigator. I'm curious as to how
35:48
Speaker 1: police can absolutely know for certain that Phrasey never left
35:53
Speaker 1: the jurisdiction of Colorado since the time Kelsey Barrett goes
35:58
Speaker 1: missing because her phone turns up near uh In, Idaho,
36:03
Speaker 1: near Twin Falls, that's where his girlfriend lives. So how
36:07
Speaker 1: could they know for sure he never left Colorado? Well, Nancy,
36:12
Speaker 1: they can't stay with one certainty, but what they can
36:15
Speaker 1: checker things like credit card statements, see if he made
36:18
Speaker 1: any gas purchases anywhere along that route. They can check
36:21
Speaker 1: surveillance to see if he's caught at any gas stations
36:24
Speaker 1: or any traffic cameras or anything like that. So they
36:27
Speaker 1: can't do it with one certainty, but they can at
36:29
Speaker 1: least eliminate how certain they are. Artist should I say
36:33
Speaker 1: that he did not leave the state? It just depends
36:36
Speaker 1: on if he was smart enough to like maybe take
36:39
Speaker 1: out a large sum of cash and then not leave
36:43
Speaker 1: a credit card trail. He definitely wouldn't have gotten on
36:45
Speaker 1: an airplane because that's easily tracked. So there's things they
36:48
Speaker 1: can do to make sure he was or was not there.
36:51
Speaker 1: Right now, we know an Idaho woman possibly connected to
36:54
Speaker 1: the death of a missing twenty nine year old mom,
36:56
Speaker 1: Kelsey Bireth, was placed on administrative leave at the hospital
36:59
Speaker 1: where she works at Twin Falls County. That's according to KKTV.
37:06
Speaker 1: We also know Saint Luke's Health system, where the woman
37:09
Speaker 1: is a registered nurse, says she's on a leave of absence.
37:13
Speaker 1: The hospital not responding to any questions. Now, what we
37:17
Speaker 1: know is that she has apparently been involved with Patrick Frazy,
37:21
Speaker 1: the so called killer fiance, for some time. He's charged
37:25
Speaker 1: with two first degree murder counts under different theories. That
37:29
Speaker 1: means the state doesn't necessarily have to prove how it
37:31
Speaker 1: happened now. According to reports, Phrasey, he was a rancher,
37:35
Speaker 1: met this divorced mother of two at a rodeo and
37:38
Speaker 1: the two have been romantically involved for some time. What
37:43
Speaker 1: charge could she possibly be looking at if he talked
37:46
Speaker 1: her into getting rid of that cell phone accomplice? Take
37:50
Speaker 1: a listen to Nikki Petisa CBS talking with Kelsey's mom.
37:53
Speaker 1: Apparently all of Kelsey's relatives believe the two were still
37:57
Speaker 1: planning to get married. I couldn't believe no one had
38:00
Speaker 1: heard from her by contacted police. That makes no sense
38:02
Speaker 1: that we can't find her. Is she excited to get married? Yes,
38:05
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, yeah, they had they had plans,
38:09
Speaker 1: no date, but but plans she'd addressed yet. No, No,
38:13
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she cared about the big
38:15
Speaker 1: wedding kind of thing. Yeah, it was between them and God.
38:20
Speaker 1: Police say Phrasey is not a suspect and is cooperating
38:23
Speaker 1: with the investigation. In a statement, His lawyer said Phrasy
38:26
Speaker 1: has given interviews to law enforcement, turned over his phone,
38:30
Speaker 1: and provided cheek swabs and photographs. I'm hopeful that she'll
38:33
Speaker 1: be found completely, one hundred percent safely. I know somebody
38:37
Speaker 1: knows where she's at. We wait as justice sentols Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,