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"Climate Porn?" (Monday, February 16, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: First thing today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas.
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Speaker 2: First, I think you really don't like him, the.
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Speaker 1: Second most famous Thomas and Charlotte Smooth.
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Speaker 3: That is absolutely true, Jewort said, steal me Stem.
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Speaker 2: You have a day at least for work when the
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Speaker 2: sun comes up, drops a pet to school.
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Speaker 5: He only s.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for letting me be in service to you
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Speaker 4: this morning.
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Speaker 6: Not only do I not like him, I don't like
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Speaker 6: him because of what he's doing to the United States.
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Speaker 4: Does she have a book to sell at this point?
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Speaker 4: Isn't she supposed to be getting ready to testify before
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Speaker 4: the House Oversight Committee. This email text message just came in. Joe,
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Speaker 4: or is it owned just by him? It's part of
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Speaker 4: the Virgin Islands US Virgin Islands, ironically, and therefore though
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Speaker 4: owned like private property, your house is in jurisdiction in
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Speaker 4: Virginia somewhere, and so your private property does fall under
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Speaker 4: the jurisdiction of your local government. So yes, US law
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Speaker 4: applies to Epstein Island because it is I forget what
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Speaker 4: the name of there's actually a name for the island,
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Speaker 4: but ever since it's discovery, it's basically been private property
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Speaker 4: as some rich dude in the turn of the nineteenth century,
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Speaker 4: and it continued to be. But it's part of the
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Speaker 4: US Virgin Islands territories, so it does fall under that.
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Speaker 4: Coming up, we're going to talk about pharmaceuticals. We came
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Speaker 4: up a little bit earlier. John down on the Treasure
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Speaker 4: Coast was asking about generics, but also, I mean the
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Speaker 4: centralization of industry and how we allow industry to centralize.
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Speaker 4: And I hate the phrase, I'm going to use it
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Speaker 4: just because you've heard it in the Zeitgeist. Pharmacy desert
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Speaker 4: along with food deserts and all this stuff. But there
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Speaker 4: are large swaths of an area where you can find
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Speaker 4: a local pharmacy anymore. So we're going to get into
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Speaker 4: that somebody who's trying to change that sum. So we'll
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Speaker 4: get into all of that. Coming up for you this
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Speaker 4: morning on first Thing today the Talk Median Network. Also
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Speaker 4: Kevin Mooney, the author of a book called Climate Porn,
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Speaker 4: is coming up, but our first things, so that we
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Speaker 4: know what we're talking about. Marco Rubio brought down the
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Speaker 17: There's all those drug stores right every three or four.
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Speaker 4: first Thing today because he'll catch me if I misspeak,
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Speaker 4: you know sometimes and saving my cookies from litigation. But
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Speaker 4: think is indicative of what we're seeing with the cost
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Speaker 4: of drugs in the country as it becomes an issue
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Speaker 4: almost as much as the affordability of housing. Eddie. Good morning, sir,
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Speaker 4: how are you.
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Speaker 18: Good morning, Joe. I'm having my coffee like I've been
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Speaker 18: having it for the last twelve years.
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Speaker 4: Well you, I appreciate it, and of course, you know,
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Speaker 4: twelve years ago it wasn't first free in the morning coffee,
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Speaker 4: but thanks to our friends at one twenty seven roastery.
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Speaker 4: See what I did there, I took your greeting and
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Speaker 4: snuck a promo in there. Isn't that existance? Citius of
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Speaker 4: me is there is no place I won't stick a plug.
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Speaker 4: It's like Christmas time and I need to put more
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Speaker 4: lights up. But that being said, to talk about what
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Speaker 4: you were seeing, because you're trying to get a bill
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Speaker 4: passed that would help more pharmacies get open in small
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Speaker 4: rural towns which are seeing them close up.
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Speaker 18: That's right, Joe, I live in Scottsville, Virginia. It's a
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Speaker 18: small rural community twenty miles south of Charltsville and a
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Speaker 18: little story behind Scottsville. We've got a two hundred year
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Speaker 18: history of being a healthcare hub and one hundred and
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Speaker 18: fifty years of having a successful drug store. Here. We've
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Speaker 18: got the demographics. We've got twenty five percent of that
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Speaker 18: population of twenty five thousand in the Greatest Custoval area,
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Speaker 18: twenty five percent are senius and they need a drug store.
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Speaker 18: And everybody needs a drug store.
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Speaker 12: We have to drive.
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Speaker 18: Miles to get to the closest one. So you're the
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Speaker 18: term rule, Well, actually it's the term called the pharmacy.
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Speaker 18: Doesert uh? Is it any community that doesn't have a
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Speaker 18: drug store and has to drive more than miles? So
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Speaker 18: air community fits that description, and I'm sure there are
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Speaker 18: many in the Sanando Valley that that fit that description.
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Speaker 18: So my mission is to get a drug store back
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Speaker 18: in Scottsville. And I'm appealing to the independent pharmacies in
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Speaker 18: the Sanando A Valley to contact me and take a
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Speaker 18: look at Scottsville and think about maybe opening up another store.
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Speaker 4: Well what is you know, and this becomes a point
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Speaker 4: of order because there are factors into this, and we
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Speaker 4: see it across the country, is you know, the insurance costs,
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Speaker 4: then the centralization. And then what you start to see
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Speaker 4: is first you centralize and everyone says, well, it's the companies.
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Speaker 4: They can they can do more to negotiate prices, so
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Speaker 4: you allow for a CVS or you know, all these
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Speaker 4: different right aid and these chains, and then they start
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Speaker 4: closing as well, and you're left with maybe one, maybe
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Speaker 4: two chains of pharmacies, uh anymore out there. And and
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Speaker 4: really it is a line of medical defense that the
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Speaker 4: pharmacy you used to I mean, the doctors of a
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Speaker 4: community often were the pharmacists.
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Speaker 18: Well, i'll tell you the the corporate pharmacies over in
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Speaker 18: the valley are are disappearing. Uh they're they're really uh
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Speaker 18: uh looking at uh uh, it is like win justin Harrisonburg,
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Speaker 18: Stanton Waysboro populated areas, they're leaving the rural communities behind
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Speaker 18: where your neighborhood pharmacies actually served these communities. And I
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Speaker 18: want to that's where I want to get back. In Scottsfield,
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Speaker 18: we had a right age here which was a very
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Speaker 18: small one and it was a pilot project. Right he
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Speaker 18: went bankrupt and they closed the store here. I believe
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Speaker 18: that according to my artificial intelligence, which if I didn't
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Speaker 18: have that, I.
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Speaker 12: Wouldn't have any intelligence at all.
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Speaker 18: Oh now, stop, but I believe right he was located
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Speaker 18: in Garaderos and Greenville over in the valley, and I
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Speaker 18: think those are gone. Well, if they were, they're gone.
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Speaker 18: Every right aid in the country is gone.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the chains that went down there.
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Speaker 4: And this is as you head out west, and we
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Speaker 4: have friends all right now Fairbanks and places. Seely we
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Speaker 4: were just talking about her. Down in the four corners
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Speaker 4: of these areas have become, you know, so rural that
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Speaker 4: it's becoming harder and harder. And then when you only
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Speaker 4: have one choice for a pharmacy, it becomes even harder
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Speaker 4: to try to say I need to, you know, get
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Speaker 4: better benefits. I need to, you know, have a conversation
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Speaker 4: with a pharmacist. Maybe. Uh, we used to have an
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Speaker 4: independent pharmacy in southeastern Pennsylvania. He did compounding, so I
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Speaker 4: mean he he would make you know, h he could
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Speaker 4: get you a vaccine if let's say you wanted a
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Speaker 4: vaccination without all the adjuvants in it, he could do that.
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Speaker 4: And and so you know, it was really quite a
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Speaker 4: community center for health, not just you know where you
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Speaker 4: go to get your prescriptions. Now is this an impact
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Speaker 4: of and I know that the right Aid closures. They
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Speaker 4: were pointing to the big box stores all doing pharmacies
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Speaker 4: now pharmacy delivery as well online things. How much is
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Speaker 4: given to that because in a rural, small town sometimes
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Speaker 4: getting a delivery Amazon Prime or anything like that can
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Speaker 4: be very difficult.
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Speaker 18: On top of it, well, when you talk about the deliveries,
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Speaker 18: I'm on Medicare and I get I'm a signed up
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Speaker 18: a drug provider and the drugs show up in my mailbox.
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Speaker 18: Now that's very handy for me. USPS notifies me my
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Speaker 18: drug provider, they notify me. I can walk down the
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Speaker 18: hill and get them. But in the summertime with the
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Speaker 18: heat and the winter time with the freezing. People don't
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Speaker 18: realize it, but that has an effect on Christian drugs
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Speaker 18: in your mailbox or your front porch, and they could
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Speaker 18: be rendered useless and you never know. So I think,
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Speaker 18: I think we're going to have choices in the future
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Speaker 18: where we can actually go to the neighb with pharmacies
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Speaker 18: and get these drugs.
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Speaker 4: What is there something you know that is standing in
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Speaker 4: the way. Is it just does there need to be
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Speaker 4: regulations lifted or something like that? Any last question.
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Speaker 18: Well, the pharmacutical industry, there are a lot of players there.
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Speaker 18: You've got your manufacturers and your wholesalers, your insurance companies
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Speaker 18: with pres Christian drug plans, and the last but not least,
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Speaker 18: the the the pharmacies. And I always, you know, talk
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Speaker 18: about the smaller pharmacies.
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Speaker 4: No, sure, I understand.
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Speaker 18: So there are a lot of players in there, and
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Speaker 18: so on the federal level, President Trump recently signed legislation
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Speaker 18: not an executive board, the legislation that was eight years
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Speaker 18: in the making to have reforms in the pharmacutical industry,
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Speaker 18: specifically targeting the the pharmacy done to fit spous.
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Speaker 4: A lore. I can't say their fact because they're not,
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Speaker 4: but their lore certainly. Kevin, Welcome to the show. How
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Speaker 12: Oh, I'm glad to be here. Thanks so much for
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Speaker 4: So, you know, this has been such a long time thing,
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Speaker 12: Well, it's a couple of things. One is what you
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Speaker 4: Down amen to that.
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Speaker 12: So in many ways, the COVID bureaucrats took their stage
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Speaker 12: it was a certain convergence of events. I think there's
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Speaker 4: Well, and certainly we've seen it and we mentioned, I mean,
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Speaker 12: You know, I will say it's very warning for an
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Speaker 12: author to see some of his par posals come to truition,
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Speaker 12: not just my proposal, but you cannot over the state
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Speaker 12: the importance of overturning the endangerment finding was based on
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Speaker 12: faulty science right from the beginning. In fact, they didn't
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Speaker 12: follow science, and it was a way to regulate all
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Speaker 12: aspects of human behavior. It was the ultimate and centralized planning.
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Speaker 12: I applaud the administration for going after this. It gets
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Speaker 12: So this is really a corrective course. It's a bit
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Speaker 4: One of our great friends. And we've been to the
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Speaker 4: a member. They're also a co author with me on
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Speaker 4: stuff there and at Restoration News, great investigative reporter, What
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Speaker 4: things you know? And you talk about this confluence of
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Speaker 4: all these different events, what makes is it just Trump
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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think there's a couple of elements
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Speaker 12: in the mix there. Number one, just getting into the
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Speaker 12: science has been building up for a while, but you
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Speaker 12: finally have a cohesive group of privately funded scientists who
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Speaker 12: so called consensus, which was always phony right from the beginning.
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Speaker 12: That built up over time. There's groups like the co
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Speaker 12: that bring together researchers and scientists from all across the globe,
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Speaker 12: showing that we're dealing largely with natural influences and also
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Speaker 12: exposing how the un has defied the scientific method. You know,
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Speaker 12: you're not supposed to have your ending written. You're supposed
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Speaker 12: And we have to say, in many ways we should
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Speaker 12: be thankful that Trump was not elected to a consecutive term.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those four years, as bad as the
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Speaker 12: Well, let's start with Josh Shapiro. He just got Pennsylvania
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Speaker 1: Hundred to do list. Putting the radio on is the
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Speaker 1: first thing today.
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Speaker 16: I think you have seen you say, I know.
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Speaker 12: You do a lot.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not so much on that one, guys. Nobody you
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Speaker 4: know Michael Mann saw the inside of a courtroom just
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Speaker 4: because he didn't like it. When Mark Stein compared him
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Speaker 4: to uh Jerry Sandusky, who was the Jeffrey Epstein of
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Speaker 4: a different era. Uh there, But you know, beyond that, yeah,
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Speaker 4: not so much in the in the litigation and arrest
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Speaker 4: department over this. Maybe that will come. We're talking with
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Speaker 4: Kevin Mooney Restoration America, an investigative journalist and Daily Signal
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Speaker 4: as well publishing a new book. It's called Climate Porn
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Speaker 4: and Kevin and Amazon dot Com grab it there. What I
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Speaker 4: know what I think when you know, I read you
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Speaker 4: know porn as is because I agree with you that
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Speaker 4: it is all this climate stuff is porn. Why did
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Speaker 4: you choose the title that you did.
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Speaker 12: It's harmful for all the same reasons as it's distortion
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Speaker 12: of the scientific method. It plays to human senses and sensibilities,
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Speaker 12: and it engages in dangerous fantasies. And especially in my
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Speaker 12: chapter on an education, you know, there's a lot of
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Speaker 12: consternation among parents, rightly so. But what they're seeing in
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Speaker 12: the curriculum with all this graphic pornographic material, which is
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Speaker 12: really eye popping. I've seen some of it. But the
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Speaker 12: same is true in terms of how they teach science.
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Speaker 12: They distort the scientific method. They tell people that humanity,
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Speaker 12: they're these young kids are black to the planet. They
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Speaker 12: tell them CO two is a pollutant. It's not. It's
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Speaker 12: the grating butxer of life on planet Earth, and they
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Speaker 12: diminish human possibilities and belief in the future for that reason.
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Speaker 12: I think what the kids are being taught in the
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Speaker 12: name of climate change is everybody's pornographic as the conventional form.
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Speaker 12: So that's part of the inspiration for the book.
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Speaker 4: So where's the best place for people to go get it?
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Speaker 12: Oh? Amazon dot com or Barnesandoble dot com.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's impressive. Very that they're letting you keep
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Speaker 4: selling it on Amazon. That's great.
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Speaker 12: Well, who knows that they may they may catch you
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Speaker 12: on after a few days. But we'll try to slide
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Speaker 12: under the radar. But but so far, so good, and
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Speaker 12: I will say whatever. I also think maybe a little
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Speaker 12: bit of a separate topics, a little bit of a
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Speaker 12: relacing in corporate America. I know wocism sort of hits
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Speaker 12: high water mark, but whether you're talking about Amazon or
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Speaker 12: other companies, I think there's sort of a a re
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Speaker 12: evaluation and a shift in natural They do want to
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Speaker 12: turn a profit and they don't want to alienate a
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Speaker 12: large portion of their customer base, so there's something happening.
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Speaker 4: Well, we watched the guy win the Daytona five hundred
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Speaker 4: with his team, and you know, I remember his statement
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Speaker 4: Republicans by sneakers too, so maybe we are, you know,
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Speaker 4: getting unwoke a little bit. Kevin, thank you for everything
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Speaker 4: you do both, you know, at the Daily Signal and
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Speaker 4: the Commonwealth Foundation and your investigative journalism. And thank you
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Speaker 4: for the book you look forward. It's climate porn. Kevin Mooney,
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Speaker 4: You have a great morning, sir.
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Speaker 12: Okay, thank you very much. I would say Restoration of
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Speaker 12: America and Daily Signal and other publications make all this possible.
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Speaker 12: So very thankful for all those platforms.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you, sir, have a great day.
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Speaker 12: Thank you very much for having me.
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Speaker 4: Yep, you know there's an app to this too. We
47:46
Speaker 4: didn't get to the elimination of the Endangerment finding from
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Speaker 4: EPA lore overnight. And it's been a long, long road.
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Speaker 4: I remember the first time I met Chris Horne, or
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Speaker 4: was I think it was two thousand and eight, two
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Speaker 4: thousand and nine, when did his first book come out?
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Speaker 4: Because the the battle against this Goes is as old
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Speaker 4: as Enron and the Rolling Brownouts and GE and all
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Speaker 4: these folks who were trying to stick their hands in
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Speaker 4: your pockets while claiming they were You're doing good. So
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Speaker 4: it was oh, say so, he had just published politically
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Speaker 4: incorrect Guide to Global Warming. When I first met Chris,
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Speaker 4: I think it was two thousand and eight, he was
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Speaker 4: still in the process of coming out with red hot
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Speaker 4: lies how global warming alarmists use threat, fraud and deception
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Speaker 4: to keep you misinformed and us too. And eight, you know,
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Speaker 4: we're approaching the twentieth anniversary of some of these books,
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Speaker 4: and and so I know that it is frustrating for
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Speaker 4: folks when these battles take a long time. And you know,
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Speaker 4: the healthcare corruption, that's another one. We've been here on
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Speaker 4: the wall, you know, ringing the bell, and little by
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Speaker 4: little people are changing when they realize. And this is
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Speaker 4: one of the things I say about even just traditional
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Speaker 4: news stories, when I go out and I say something
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Speaker 4: about I don't know Steve Banner or whatever, and people say, oh, no, Joe,
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Speaker 4: that's not And then you know, six months a year later,
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Speaker 4: it comes through fruition that I was right in my
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Speaker 4: analysis and my warnings. That's okay. It's okay because saying
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Speaker 4: what has to be said is important. Calling out the
50:04
Speaker 4: truth is important. And if you know what was the
50:08
Speaker 4: old story about Nelson Mandela, you know he was in prison.
50:12
Speaker 4: I mean the brother was in prison for decades. No,
50:16
Speaker 4: he didn't die there, but imprisoning him made him more powerful.
50:27
Speaker 4: The communists in America, when they were facing mass arrests
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Speaker 4: became more powerful. So you know, ideologically, you know, holding
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Speaker 4: somebody's feet to the fire through debate and discussion. That's
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Speaker 4: the way it works. That's the way Western civilization has
50:49
Speaker 4: to work. I know a lot of folks are frustrated
50:52
Speaker 4: with the TV ads that are inundating Virginia television about
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Speaker 4: the redistricting and playing fast and loose with the truth. Joel,
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Speaker 4: you had a point a suggestion for everyone here.
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Speaker 24: I think Baron Trump was a big part of this big,
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Speaker 24: big because he got President Trump to go on TikTok.
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Speaker 24: I don't even use that, but I know that a
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Speaker 24: lot of the younger people are captivated by that, you know,
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Speaker 24: by that, Yeah, and even Facebook, Instagram, but it's used.
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Speaker 24: What you have, don't don't ignore it, and and don't
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Speaker 24: wait till the last minute to make it.
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Speaker 12: To do something.
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Speaker 24: And it seems like you know, the trying to get
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Speaker 24: the Save Act. They went on ten days of vacation.
51:37
Speaker 24: Again them being out there saying, hey, you know, we're
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Speaker 24: not going to go on vacation, We're going to do something.
51:45
Speaker 24: And I think that's the perception rather.
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Speaker 4: Than Joel, you're being unfair, You're being unfair. They they
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Speaker 4: they voted to set the calendar so that they had
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Speaker 4: to leave. They had no choice. The calendar was set
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Speaker 4: and the calendar said that they would be in recess
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Speaker 4: starting at midnight. And so they I'm being facetious, but
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Speaker 4: that's their argument is is the House rules were that
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Speaker 4: we were at recess at midnight. Okay, you voted for
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Speaker 4: those House rules, that's not part of the constitution. Vote
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Speaker 4: to undo them. That's it, simple, easy beasy, got work
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Speaker 4: to do, Gonna stay late. Sorry, thought we were gonna leave,
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Speaker 4: not gonna leave. It's a pretty straightforward scenario, Joel. I
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Speaker 4: appreciate the call, appreciate everyone who joins in in the morning,
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