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Suzanne’s Diary (A Year in the Life: Spring) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, let's just you. I Am all In with Scott Patterson,
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  Speaker 2: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, this is another episode of
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  Speaker 2: I'm All In, but today it's just myself, Tara and
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  Speaker 2: Suzanne Girl Day, Danielle and I did this for Danielle's
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  Speaker 2: diary and now we're going to do Suzanne's diary for Spring,
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  Speaker 2: which is episode two in the Year in Life. So, Suzanne,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start by saying, this is my least
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  Speaker 2: favorite episode of the revivals.
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  Speaker 1: I have to agree with you. It's so tense, Like
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  Speaker 1: when I was watching at my anxiety level, it's so high.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I need an adult beverage. I'm so worked of.
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  Speaker 2: I I'm not gonna lie to you. I watched it
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  Speaker 2: once last week and I completely forgot it, and so
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  Speaker 2: I watched it again last night and I'm like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: wonder I forgot it because it wasn't that memorable. It
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  Speaker 2: was pretty annoying.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's just so miserable everyone.
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  Speaker 2: And like it wasn't a bad episode, right, Like it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like it wasn't that it was poorly acted
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  Speaker 1: or poorly written or anything. It just was it. I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't when I watched the first episode Winter, you
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  Speaker 1: have like these kind of warm fuzzies cause it's winter
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  Speaker 1: and there's snow and we're seeing all the characters again
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  Speaker 1: and finding out what they're up to, and so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there were some downer moments for sure, because we had
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  Speaker 1: to deal with Richard's death and all that, but overall
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  Speaker 1: the episode was kind of lighthearted and happy, and then
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  Speaker 1: we get to this episode and every everyone is miserable.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody likes anything that is happening to them. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess except Kirk because he got to come out
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  Speaker 1: with his second movie. But yeah, it just it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of depressing. There was there was.
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  Speaker 2: Uh I was, yeah, yeah, I there was nothing memorable
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  Speaker 2: about it for me, Like I've seen this, like I
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  Speaker 2: think Danielle and I talked about this and the Danielle's diary,
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  Speaker 2: but like I've probably seen these like maybe four times.
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  Speaker 2: Truly don't remember this up Like the the only part
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  Speaker 2: I actually remembered was when she gets an argument with
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  Speaker 2: the girl from the paper or the when she's like
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  Speaker 2: I thought you wanted me, Like that's the only thing
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  Speaker 2: I actually remember in therapy.
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  Speaker 1: I did, Like, I don't want to be totally negative
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  Speaker 1: about it, but so I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight some
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  Speaker 1: things that I did. Like, I thought the International Festival
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  Speaker 1: was kind of cute. It was yeah, typical stars hollow,
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  Speaker 1: like Tailor's all worked up about, you know, everything that's
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  Speaker 1: going wrong and trying to fix everything.
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  Speaker 2: And the town meeting with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I thought that was good. So typically I
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  Speaker 1: like the town stuff, so I did. I did enjoy that.
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  Speaker 2: That part felt very Gilmore for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was quirky. It was irreverent, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Singapore was just being a dick like that. It just
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  Speaker 1: was funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, was that the same Yeah, it was the same
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  Speaker 2: meeting when they were talking about like the gay the
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  Speaker 2: gay Pride parade and they were like, do you think Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: that anyone else, anyone in the town.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was funny. So the town meeting
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  Speaker 1: was good. We got to see mister Kim, so that
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  Speaker 1: was good. I love that they threw viewers that bone
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  Speaker 1: because it's always, you know, everybody's always where's mister Kim?
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  Speaker 1: Why don't they ever show mister Kim? So I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was great that they threw that in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no Suki again, we got Rachel Ray instead.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, the one thing that really
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  Speaker 1: stuck out in my mind about this episod so it
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  Speaker 1: is I do not like the Dragonfly without Sukie. It
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  Speaker 1: was those those Dragonfly scenes. Michelle was like so just
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  Speaker 1: just completely unhinged and hysterical, and I those scenes were
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  Speaker 1: just so anxiety provoking for me. He's upset about every
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  Speaker 1: little thing, and I'm like, Where's where's Suki for the
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  Speaker 1: comic relief? Yeah. I wasn't a fan of those scenes.
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  Speaker 1: He just was so Michelle by himself is really grating,
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  Speaker 1: I thought. So, I wasn't a fan of that, but
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  Speaker 1: it was it was cute that they tied it in
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  Speaker 1: with the town meeting and all the B level actors
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  Speaker 1: and then you then you suddenly find out, okay, this
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  Speaker 1: must be where Taylor got his information from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually I thought that that little storyline
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  Speaker 2: was funny. The B level yeah, celebrities. It's like the
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  Speaker 2: names that no one knew and.
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  Speaker 1: They're just like all sitting around the inn and yeah
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  Speaker 1: and oh one all. One thing I did like about
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  Speaker 1: this episode two is the appearance from the real paul Anka. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that was good.
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  Speaker 2: She had another dream about him and I liked that
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  Speaker 2: the callback. But I mean because he was he was
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  Speaker 2: in the show, right, he showed up in the actual series?
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  Speaker 1: Did he I can't remember? Or was he just in
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  Speaker 1: the room? I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I think he did.
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  Speaker 1: I think he did, And now Jackie.
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  Speaker 2: Will look this up. Yeah he was, he was. It
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  Speaker 2: was because she had a dream. It was a dream
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  Speaker 2: sequence from what I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm like yeah, I thought, okay. And
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  Speaker 1: when he turned to the camera and goes squirrel, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he was a good sport about that.
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  Speaker 2: Also another appearance was May Whitman. Did you notice this?
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  Speaker 2: For people who don't know. May Whitman was in Parenthood
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  Speaker 2: with Lauren Graham and I think the show had just
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  Speaker 2: when I looked it up, the show had ended a
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  Speaker 2: year prior, so this was kind of a little reunion
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  Speaker 2: between them, and then we got a fake Chad Michael Murray.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, I actually when they said is that Tristan,
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  Speaker 2: I rewound it and I'm like where I didn't see him?
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't. It was just like this guy with
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  Speaker 2: his hand up and I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I went back to when he was
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  Speaker 1: interviewed for the podcast, because I was trying to remember
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  Speaker 1: that story and his wife was that was her due
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  Speaker 1: date or she was in labor, and so that's why
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  Speaker 1: he was supposed to do it, but then he had
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  Speaker 1: to back.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of wish they just didn't put it in
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  Speaker 2: there then, like I didn't want fake Tristan.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that was kind of my red flag on the episode,
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  Speaker 1: was the whole Tristan thing. I thought Paris's reaction was
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  Speaker 1: so weirdly over the top, Like she's not still going
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  Speaker 1: to be hung up in her thirties on a guy
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  Speaker 1: that she had a crush on when she was a sophomore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't just I feel like, I don't know it's Paris.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like anything's possible.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's true, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I agree with you. I see what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to see him and be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's Tristan, but it just was too
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  Speaker 1: over the top for me, Just like the level of
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  Speaker 1: her being upset was just not super believable. Although when
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  Speaker 1: she put her like somebody starts to come in the
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  Speaker 1: door and she puts her foot up against the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: door so that they can't come in. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how she did that in those four inch heels or
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  Speaker 1: three inch heels whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also, did you ever watch Murder? She wrote, which, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was Murder? She wrote that she was in.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Oh, how to get Away with Murder?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry? How to ga? How to get Away with Murder?
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever watch it?
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  Speaker 1: I saw the first season?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I love that show, and it just like
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  Speaker 2: I think, with her with that haircut and everything, I
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  Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, isn't the Paris that I know?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, she was really good at it. And
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  Speaker 1: I love Violin Dama, so I enjoy that too. I
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  Speaker 1: would have watched more. It's it's on Netflix, but it's
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  Speaker 1: leaving Netflix, so I'm gonna go quick binge. I know
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  Speaker 1: there's like four more seasons to go. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it, but yeah, she's really good in that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what else. Oh, speaking of the Chilten scene,
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was a total missed opportunity. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it was scheduling with the actor or what,
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  Speaker 1: but I was surprised we didn't hear from Max. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to know what Max is doing, and they never
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  Speaker 1: they never addressed it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, like, I actually forgot about until
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  Speaker 2: you just said it because I was more excited to
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  Speaker 2: see the Headmaster. Yes, I just thought it was so
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  Speaker 2: nice to see him. But it was kind of refreshing
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  Speaker 2: and he, you know, like said that he was paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to Rory's writing and things like that. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was just heartwarming with Max. I think it would
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  Speaker 2: have opened up more can of worms because of like
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  Speaker 2: loral I and the history and so Yeah, maybe they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have time to flesh out that storyline, which brings
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  Speaker 2: me to I just think in general with the Revival,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of storylines that are not fleshed out
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  Speaker 2: as much as we would like, so they had to.
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  Speaker 2: I would have liked to see Max over fake Tristan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I would have flipped it.
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  Speaker 1: If they couldn't have gotten him on it at least
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  Speaker 1: like said something about what he ended up doing.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, Chilton, did he go like he was here
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  Speaker 2: last week and he also had a class or spoke
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  Speaker 2: to a class like just something. I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it would have been fun to find out
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  Speaker 1: like whatever wound up happening to Max because we didn't
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  Speaker 1: see him after season three, so like a long time
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  Speaker 1: has gone by.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe that's why, because like I mean, he was
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  Speaker 2: pretty like a big character those those first three seasons,
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  Speaker 2: but it's been a very many years since we even
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  Speaker 2: heard his name, because I don't think he was even
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  Speaker 2: really mentioned towards the end of the series at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think so either. Yeah, but they brought
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  Speaker 1: Digger back, so they you know, they could have had
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  Speaker 1: like a two second.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Digger just made more sense because of the family
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  Speaker 2: history at the funeral. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So then the therapy, some of the therapy sessions were
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  Speaker 1: kind of funny. Emily had a good line about are
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  Speaker 1: my big bazukahs intruding on you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that was funny.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the ongoing tension between Lorelai and Emil Emily,
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  Speaker 1: I just had Maybe it was naive of me to
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  Speaker 1: think that maybe therapy would actually help them, but it
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  Speaker 1: didn't say it really did either one of them any good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Lorelai individually is starting to get some benefit,
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  Speaker 1: but it didn't. I didn't feel like it helped make
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  Speaker 1: any progress on their relationship.
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  Speaker 2: It's it bugged me that, well, I'm glad that Lorelai
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  Speaker 2: stayed yeah the last session when Emily backed out, But
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  Speaker 2: it bugged me that she didn't tell Luke. And I'm like,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: are we back to square one of keeping things? Like
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  Speaker 2: what's the big deal to be? Like, hey, my mom
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  Speaker 2: didn't come to therapy, but I did it solo today,
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  Speaker 2: Like why didn't you talk about that with your significant other? Right?
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  Speaker 1: And in that same scene, he also doesn't tell her
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  Speaker 1: that he went looking at diners. Yes, so they're both
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  Speaker 1: withholding information from each other in that scene, which again
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  Speaker 1: like right back, it's like April all over again.
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  Speaker 2: And I think more than ever in this episode, I
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  Speaker 2: realized that even though they've been together for eight nine years,
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  Speaker 2: obviously since the series ended, like literally nothing has changed,
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  Speaker 2: right Like and I and I it's I wish there
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: was more progress in their relationship. It's funny because when
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  Speaker 2: we did Danielle's diary, she was like, oh, her husband.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know they're not married, right She goes,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're right, because you would think after
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: all these years they'd be married. And obviously this episode
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  Speaker 2: brings up how she mentioned she has been married and
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  Speaker 2: blah blah. But yeah, I just feel like their relationship
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  Speaker 2: is the only thing that's like had no movement.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and we talked about that in the recap for Winter.
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  Speaker 1: How you know, in the original series, both Luke and
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  Speaker 1: Loralai expressed that they wanted more kids, and yet here
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  Speaker 1: we are years later and they haven't even had a
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  Speaker 1: conversation about it. And that didn't feel like they would
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  Speaker 1: have at least talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, over it eight years, right, yeah, not once.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said in that recap, they should have opened
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  Speaker 1: Winter with them having a kid, like in you know,
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  Speaker 1: a five or six year old, like, Yeah, that would
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: have been I think that's what everybody was expecting. But
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  Speaker 1: we didn't get that. Okay. So I always wonder when
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  Speaker 1: I watched the which I don't watch it very often,
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  Speaker 1: but I always wonder. They never tell us how long
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  Speaker 1: Logan has been back together. Yeah, so I'm always looking
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  Speaker 1: for clues, and I think this, I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: recent thing because the scene with Mitchell made it sound
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  Speaker 1: like Rory was thinking, oh, we have to hide this
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  Speaker 1: from him like she was. She seemed distressed that they
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: ran into him, which to me, if they had been
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: together for a while she might not have been see.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of disagree there because at the end when
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  Speaker 2: she tells Laura I that liked D is not a thing.
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  Speaker 2: D D is Logan, right, She's like, oh, so every
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: time you go to London, which makes it seem like
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  Speaker 2: it's been over a year. I mean, think about it,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: we already have. We're now in the second season, so like,
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: how longer each season? Four months? So we're eight months
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  Speaker 2: in at least into this, So I was thinking it's
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: at least over a year of back and forth. But
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: also like, I then found it weird that you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: tell Rory that this place you're going to is like
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: the family restaurant. Yeah, I don't know. They just seem messy,
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  Speaker 2: especially when he picks up the phone call with the
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  Speaker 2: fiance and now that's where we find out that he's engaged.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, I've known this before, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Rory, And and also Lorelai's reaction to
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  Speaker 2: her like being with Logan when he's engaged, Like I think,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: I think Lorelai is almost like just given up.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: She's like, you know, we went through this with the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Dean thing. You're thirty two years old, like what you know,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing? But yeah, she knows she can't
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: like I mean her she's Rory's thirty two, Like Lorlai
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  Speaker 1: knows she can't like really she can't say her behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That was kind of just the sense
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  Speaker 1: I got. But I don't think I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that they've one of the reasons, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they've been together that long. I mean maybe a year
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  Speaker 1: or so, but I don't think that Rory would be
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  Speaker 1: able to keep that secret from laurele I for years.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think that they've been together like since.
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  Speaker 2: You know, no no. I was just saying like over
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: a year at least, because the way that even laurel
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I was like Huntsburger, Like how many logans do you
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: know in Loury's history, Like the way and I mentioned
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: this San Yelle when like the thing that bothers me
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: about the show or the revival is when they kind
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: of act like they need to like reintroduce some characters,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: like when in the first one in Winter, when she's
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: telling Lane, she goes, oh, you remember Paris? Right? How
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: does Lane not remember Paris? And like right, now it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Logan and Laurela's like Huntsburger. Logan was a big part
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  Speaker 2: of her relationship. How do you not remember who Logan is?
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  Speaker 2: Or But it was more of an establishing I think
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: mine for people watching, which I understand, but I also
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: feel like people who've never watched Gilmore Girls wouldn't dive
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: into the revival. I could be wrong, Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's like a lot of like they really put a
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: lot of time. I mean eight years, eight years or
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: nine years. I'm now mixing it up. Eight years, right,
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  Speaker 2: nine years.
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  Speaker 1: Eight nine because it ended in twenty seven, two thousand
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and seven, and then the revival was twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so nine years. It's like, yeah, a lot
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  Speaker 2: can happen. But like, I don't know, if I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: to my mom, like someone I was friends with in
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  Speaker 2: high school, I think she would still.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, especially.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm I'll be I'll be thirty two next month,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm the same age as Rory, And if I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned someone, my Mom's like, oh, yeah, I remember that person. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We also found out that or I can't remember. Did
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: we find out for sure in winter that Logan is
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: working for his dad. Again, I don't remember if they
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: established that in winter, No, I don't think. So he's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: in London working and we didn't know for sure where
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he was working.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: He was just in London working and it's always like
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: putting his tie on and like going to work. Like
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think we established it until here. But going
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: back to talking about Mitcham, when she turned down the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: offer of Mitcham being like, you want me to put
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a good word in, I'm like, girl, you have no job,
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  Speaker 2: you've been struggling. Just let him help you, like he's
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: been such a Yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Like swallow your pride and just like take the hand.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just take it, like and she got the meeting
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  Speaker 2: out of it. It's just one of those things where
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I think the older you get, you're like, yeah, like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: if someone's going to offer me to get an interview,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I'll take it, no matter what it is, who it's from, Like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, you entering that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: you're the one entering the room, You're the one having
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the interview. So that's what really matters. It doesn't matter
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: who helps you get in there.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes, Yeah, exactly, you still have to stand on your own.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like, I'm happy she took it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: At the end, Yeah, I think she's in a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: of denial as to the state of her career because
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in the last episode she kept telling Laura, I, oh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of irons in the fire, and
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: she really didn't. I mean, she's got like this book
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: deal that fell apart, you know, and Sandy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Says, no contract, by the way, exactly.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: There's no contract to cancel because it didn't exist. So yeah,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and then we keep in the next episode in summer
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: when she keeps telling people I'm not back. I'm not back,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: like she's totally in denial about.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Where because at the end here she's like, I'm moving
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: back home. You straight up.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Said it exactly exactly. So I mean, I feel kind
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of bad for her because at that time, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: she's getting into journalism, especially print journalism, at a time
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: where everything is shifting online and newspapers are like, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: physical newspapers are going out of business or consolidating or whatever.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: So there's there's gonna be some angst there because there's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: not as many jobs out there for journalists as there
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: were in the early two thousands when she was you know.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Startly It's funny because this I think I mentioned when
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I first joined the podcast that this kind of mirrored
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: my life a little bit because I was a journalism
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: major and I was definitely like a rory. I always
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: was reading, and I graduated college in twenty fifteen. So
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: when this came out, I actually was having a really
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: hard time finding a job and I studied broadcast journalism
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and I was actually started working at iHeart, but I
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: was like part time work in my way, you know
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it was hard, Like it was
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: really really hard. There were no jobs. So I kind
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of do agree with you on that that, like, if
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: you're thinking about that time, then yeah, like she should
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: have pivoted and done something else. But you know, I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: understand wanting to follow your dream and right, and.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: You want to do what you trained for. Yeah yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and it's not.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Even her fault, like everything was turning into digital.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I did think she should have given maybe
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a little more serious consideration to the head master's offer,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Like she could have gone back done a master's in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know, English or literature or whatever, gotten a teaching credential,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and yeah, been perfectly happy at Chiltren. I mean I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: get that that's she felt maybe maybe she thought she
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was too good for that, or she wasn't you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: she had more training than that or so. I don't know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it could have been a really good option
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: for her and she would have been really good at
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I think, well, what bugs me is she just keeps
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: saying no to everything, like there's something bigger coming, when
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it's like, you have nothing going on, so why are
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you saying no and for like something to happen? Because
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you even noticed when she was at Conde and As
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: doing the interview and they're like, oh, well, what are
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you working on? She was like digging for like what
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: she's working on, Like she doesn't have anything to be like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: oh well, I'm currently working at this magazine and I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: looking to further my career, like she doesn't have that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Because I think she this is what bothers me about Rory.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I think she thinks very highly of herself. And I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: don't falter for that because she's a very smart girl,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: but like you're just making yourself look like you have
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it all together and you don't. And I think she
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: just wants to come off like I have this kind
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: of life. I have this kind of life. I went
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to Yale, I did this flying back and forth to London,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: when if you like zoom out and actually look at
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: her life, you're like, you don't have it all together,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and that's okay, and that's fine.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that kind of leads us into the meltdown
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that she has at the hotel room. My gosh, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I swear, Wookie humpy loser is the funniest line in
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like the whole thing. My husband uses that all the time.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, she's just a Wookie helping loser.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I completely forgot that the Wookie scenario started here because
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of the of the line, the lines in New York Story, right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I just remember the you just when you hear Wookie,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you're just not gonna forget that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: So I think that's that whole scene in the hotel
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: room with Lurli where she starts to come and Glue
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: is her the beginning of her realization that Okay, I'm
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I things are not just falling in my lap. I'm
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: gonna have to, you know, pivot and figure out what
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with myself because people aren't beating down
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: her door trying to get well, except for Sandy says,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: but you know, that whole thing was a miscommunication because
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: she showed up on the first day thinking she's there
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: for her first day at work. She didn't realize it
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: was an interview. That's why she's saying, Oh, I thought
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I would start with hr because she thought she was.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: But also when she like called back and the way
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: she was speaking to her, I'm like, come on, like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: you think you're really gonna get a job acting like that?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I know I was. I was surprised that it was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: not a character. Yeah, I was too. I was a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: little surprised that she got mad like that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine to get mad, and you know, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the phone call and then like vent to like Lane
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: or your mom, but like, don't don't do it to
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the girl who what if your cross pads again in
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: your future? You know it doesn't that look? What a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: good look.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I will say that both Sandy and Naomi Shropshire. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: thought those two characters. I loved them. They were so
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: much fun to watch. Alex Kingston is great and then
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the im I'm blanking on the other actress's name, Oh,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Julia Goldanie tell us she was and bunheads and yes, Yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: really good in that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: So I had to google her because I was like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: what have I seen her in? So Bunheads.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I really enjoyed both of those characters. I thought
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they were They were yeah, fun to watch, and they
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: were a high point for me. So yeah, I mean overall. Oh,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in the movie theater scene. I liked that scene too.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: They were cooking bab Bet and Maury were grilling in
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the movie theater and Maury had that t shirt a
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: film by Kirk and I liked that little throat.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Also, the line when they were like, oh, you guys,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: get the love seat and like, I can't remember exactly
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: what the line was, but Luke's like we're already sitting
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: like basically knows what's happened on this couch. I thought
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: that was funny. I also liked that they kept those
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: like nuances about the town, like this weird movie theater
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that you know still there and right.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: They kept those things, so that made it very nostalgic
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to the show.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: The one thing that kind of bugged me in this,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's just me, is Rory's
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: three phones. What do you need three phones for? You
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: don't even have a job.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and and Stars Hollow had plenty of cell phone
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: reception in the early two thousands.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Why all what happened?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Now have cell phone reception.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I understand the phone that probably was to call London
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: back and forth to call Logan like the international plant. Sure,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'll take that one. What are the two other two
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: phones for?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That didn't make sense. Is especially like you say,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: when you're not working, you don't Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that part kind of I was like, I don't know.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: It kind of bugged me. I'm like, stop trying to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: act like you have a lot going on, because you.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Don't, right, And they kept they kept hitting on that too,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like they it started in winter, and then they did
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: it again in this episode. It's like, yeah, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: we get it, we can we can move on.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Did she throw the phone away at the end to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: one of them, I was like, you just threw it away?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the flip phone. She like broke it all apart. Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I did like seeing Danny Strong in this though, with Yes.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I have always liked Paris and Doyle, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: so I was sad to hear that they were getting
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a divorced because I know it's the perfect couple to me.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I know, I actually forgot about the divorce until I rewatched.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, but then again, I mean
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: it's Paris.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and their house with all the stairs.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And also their kids were so calm. When Rory took
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: them to the park, I was kind of I was
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was too. I thought I kept like waiting
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: for like some like you say, something to happen or
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And I don't even know where the little boy was.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Was he he was sitting on the floor.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Oh okay. But when they were at the park, because
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: she was sitting with the girl, he was on.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: The floor from what I remember, Yeah, he's like sitting
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: on the grass. And then she's sitting next to Rory
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: eating her hot dog okay.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And then Rory said something about oh, I thought the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: baby was going to throw up, and I'm like, what baby?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Like four?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Unless no, they only had two kids, right, it
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: was only Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: That's why when she was talking on the phone to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Logan and she goes, oh, wait, hold on a second,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I thought the baby was going to throw up. And
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that was when Logan's like, do you want to tell
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: me something?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I think it was to get that line from Logan.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. It was to get that like, oh,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: lots changed since you've last to kind of give the like, oh,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it's been three four months since you've been here. Have
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you had a child since?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But I hate to say it, like I do really
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: like Logan and Rory still together in this like the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: way their dynamic. I just hate that he's in our
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: relationship bugs, Like it's like this back and forth of
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: like you want them to be together, but why can't
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you just break up with this girl who's never home. Yeah,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And it seems like he talks to Rory more than
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: he talks to her at times, and she's.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Not breaking up with her boyfriend either. It's like, oh
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: my god, Paul, but she never actually does it that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I've said it before on
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the podcast. I don't think that any of the three
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: boyfriends are Rory's endgame. I want her to find someone different,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: so like, cut Logan loose, cut Paul loose, and find
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: somebody that can just be devoted to you and not
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: being the other woman.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know I'm jumping ahead a little bit,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and I know that obviously we see Dean and Jess
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: in the revival. I just wish it was less Logan,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Like I wish that we kind of even maybe not
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Dean because a lot of times, like who really goes
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: back to their high school boyfriend, you know, Like I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: thought that's but I feel like Jess was someone who
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: had a lot more in a lot more impact in
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Rory's life, especially like when he saw at Yale and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: his opening his bookstore. Like, I just wish we get
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. And I'm like, I don't know
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: if I need four episodes of Logan, but I understand why.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly because we have to get to those
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: last four words at the end of Fall, so that,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: like everything, all the boyfriend stuff is leading up to that. Yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I agree with you about Jess. I think of the three,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Ess probably just might be the most compatible personality wise,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Like I think, especially now that he's grown up and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he's not this turble making kid, but as a teenager,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I thought I thought they were cute together. I mean,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: that's in the next episode, but I'm.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, No, I was just saying overall, like I
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: just because I was waiting for Jess in this episode
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: because last week Danielle asked me, She's like, is Mile
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: on the next one? I'm like, I don't remember, mind you,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I forgot this whole episode because it's clearly my least
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: like I actually, when I finished, I was like, how
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: do I tell Suzan this was the worst? But you
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: agreed with me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it would have been good to have a
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: little bit more, Jess, I agree, yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And just I don't know the I mean, I guess
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: kind of to put it all together, this just felt
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like a filler of the revival, Like it wasn't like
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the mediest part of the revival.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It felt like it was more it
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: was intentionally kind of chaotic, trying to set up again,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to set up those last four words, because it has
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to come out that Rory's life is not together and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that she's not settled and she's unsure about what her
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: future holds. Because then those last four words have more
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: impact than they would for somebody who's, you know, in
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a stable relationship and has a good job and owns
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a house, you know, So they kind of create that chaos,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: which I think was kind of what this season was about. Yes, definitely,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: he just kind of being.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I agree. Well, Suzanne, should we rate this?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Rate this episode?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: R this? I'm I'm gonna give this uh. I'm trying
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to remember what I can't remember what I rated Winter.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I think I gave it a seven.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I gave it a seven.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give this probably a six.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give it six crow doo cakes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give it a five. I'm want to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: give it five wookies because would But yeah, I mean
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for the next two because I just know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I know it's gearing up to get better. Yeah, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: also watching these revivals make me actually want to go
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: now that we're all basically almost in fall, I just
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: want to start from the beginning. I'm like, can we
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: hurry up and get through these so I can start over.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I have so many friends too, who've actually never seen
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, and I'm like the walking poster of like, well,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: it's almost fall, so get your pumpkin spice latte and
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: start an episode.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be perfect when it's not ninety five degrees.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, So I'm pretty excited for the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: next two. I feel like we're just gearing up for more.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna it's it's gonna go start going out
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Susanne, do you want to send us
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: out of your Suzanne's diaries?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't talk about putting me on
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the spot. I don't worry.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Danielle did it to me and it was her own
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: diary last sight.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So that is going to wrap it up for Suzanne's diary.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for giving us the opportunity to have
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a little sidebar chat about the episode, and we'll talk soon.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Bye, hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: at I Am all In podcast and email us at
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.