Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Atheist Scientists Exposed For Destroying Millions of Lives #atheist #atheism
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- 0:05Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
- 0:06Thanks to all the witnesses for being here.
- 0:08Doctor Woolen, it's if I could start with you.
- 0:10You served as the chief of staff to Francis Collins for four
- 0:15years. Is that right?
- 0:16That's correct. Senator from 2017 to 2021, is
- 0:19that correct? So right.
- 0:21Right through the heart of the pandemic.
- 0:22Yes, I see. I noticed that Doctor Collins
- 0:28was intensely interested in discrediting the lab leak.
- 0:34I guess we'll call it a hypothesis.
- 0:36I think it's probably a little bit stronger than that now that
- 0:38we know something of what our intelligence agencies have long
- 0:41assessed. Last month I had the chance to
- 0:44speak with Doctor Robert Gary, who sat right where you are, who
- 0:46co-authored that really, frankly shameless propaganda piece, the
- 0:51proximal origin paper, which famously, infamously stated that
- 0:54the SARS COVID 2 is not a laboratory construct or a
- 0:58purposely manipulated virus. It went on to say it could not
- 1:00possibly have come from a lab. This, of course, we now know is
- 1:05is not what multiple U.S. intelligence agencies assessed.
- 1:09What interests me is that your office was very involved in that
- 1:13paper. Oh snap, which was supposed to
- 1:17be an independent piece of scientific analysis, but Doctor
- 1:20Collins actually called Doctor Gary when he was supposedly
- 1:24working on the paper on February 1st, 2020.
- 1:28Is it normal for scientists who are supposedly doing independent
- 1:32research to get together and talk about how the how their
- 1:35conclusions going to come out? Thank you for the question,
- 1:39Senator Holly. Oh please.
- 1:42I I think in general, yes, it is quite common for scientists
- 1:49across biomedical research fields while they're in the
- 1:52process of doing research to discuss with.
- 1:56Pre baked the outcome. Other scientists.
- 1:58I do not believe that the that is an accurate description of
- 2:02the conversations that took place.
- 2:04Well, tell us what? What were the nature of the
- 2:06conversations? So while I was not present for
- 2:12the those conversations, my understanding based on readouts
- 2:17is there was a lot of interest in the origins and current
- 2:23understanding of SARS COV two. And I think it's important when
- 2:27we're talking about the term lab leak theory to differentiate
- 2:32between the idea of a virus escaping from a lab, which is a
- 2:36bio, a safety violation, versus a virus that is engineered or
- 2:42manipulated in the lab and then escaped.
- 2:44Yeah, and. Your boss and Doctor Fauci.
- 2:45Tried to discredit. Both of those things, they said
- 2:47that the lab was absolutely not involved.
- 2:50We know that at the time this paper was supposedly being
- 2:52written because we now have the private correspondence from
- 2:55Doctor Fauci. Your boss said that it was a
- 2:58very destructive conspiracy. Wait, wait.
- 3:01Yeah, Yeah. OK, OK, Go conspiracy to think
- 3:08that there was a lab involved. So he's on the phone with a
- 3:11scientist, quote UN quote, scientist who's supposedly
- 3:15writing an independent paper. By the way, Doctor Gary
- 3:17testified Underoath that he was coming to his conclusions while
- 3:23this paper was being written. He was discovering the answers,
- 3:26but we now know that your boss was on the phone with him saying
- 3:29this is a very destructive conspiracy before the paper was
- 3:32even written. My question is, why was your
- 3:34office so intent on pushing to the public the idea that this
- 3:40could not possibly have been a lab issue?
- 3:43Is it because of the NIH S role in funding gain of function
- 3:46research at the lab? Is that the reason why?
- 3:47Look, look at this. Somebody come look at this.
- 3:49So, Senator Holly, I would say that in the event of any new and
- 3:53emerging infectious disease, if you've ever gone through a
- 3:56tabletop exercise in bio security, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:59Answer my question is it because that NIH was actually funding
- 4:03helping to fund eco health, was funding gain of function
- 4:06research and. No, I believe that's an
- 4:07inaccurate assessment. And in fact, your boss misled
- 4:11Congress and testified falsely that NIH and the Eco Health had
- 4:15never conducted gain of function research in Ruhan, correct?
- 4:17No, that's incorrect, really. He did testify that.
- 4:22I believe, Sir, that what he testified to was that there was
- 4:26no evidence at that time that NIH was funding research that
- 4:31met the scope of the P3 Co policy, which I want to
- 4:35differentiate from the term gain of function research.
- 4:39Oh of. Course, this is the classic,
- 4:40this is the classic. Now that we've lied, now that
- 4:43you have and your office lied to the American people for years,
- 4:48told the American people that a lab leak was a very destructive
- 4:53conspiracy. That's your boss's statement
- 4:55while you were his chief of staff.
- 4:57Of course, we now know that that was the conspiracy to hide this
- 5:00from the American people, to censor people who had who, who
- 5:04went out and said, you know what, actually, maybe this is a
- 5:06lab leak. Your office doctor Fauci and
- 5:08others tried to actively censor them.
- 5:10There was a propaganda effort that this paper was the center
- 5:13of. And now everybody says, oh, oh,
- 5:15well, we we just weren't sure at the time, we didn't really knew.
- 5:19You knew exactly what you were doing.
- 5:21Got that right? You were actively misleading the
- 5:24American people the entire time. Get this, after that paper,
- 5:30paper, it's really an opinion piece was published.
- 5:34Your boss then says to Doctor Fauci that he had really hoped
- 5:39that the paper would settle this.
- 5:41Is there anything more that we can do to shut down this
- 5:45destructive conspiracy? This is in April of 2020.
- 5:48And then Dr. Fauci went to the White House podium and said that
- 5:52absolutely, there's no way that this could have come from a lab.
- 5:55I just, why was your Let me come back to my original question.
- 5:58Why was your office so intent on shutting down any talk about
- 6:04this being involved with a lab? Why?
- 6:06I don't understand it. Why the hysteria?
- 6:09So, Senator Hawley, I will say that my understanding of the
- 6:13situation is that the no one at NIH, including Doctor Collins,
- 6:23Doctor Fauci myself, ever suggested that there wasn't the
- 6:27possibility that a virus had escaped from a lab.
- 6:32Oh. That's ridiculous.
- 6:33I mean that. Let me just stop you right
- 6:35there. I just, I cannot have these lies
- 6:36just continue to be told over and over again, sorry and wrong.
- 6:40That's false. You people repeatedly,
- 6:42repeatedly said it could not have come from a lab.
- 6:45Your boss said it was a very destructive conspiracy, not that
- 6:50it was unlikely, not that it was not the best idea, a conspiracy.
- 6:54And based on that, you censored and your administration that you
- 6:58worked for actively censored scientists, journalists, and
- 7:02what we now know is our own intelligence agencies.
- 7:04At the same time, we're concluding and briefing members
- 7:07of Congress that it likely was from a lab leak.
- 7:09I mean, it's extraordinary. And now you've been caught red
- 7:11handed because you you thought that the rest of us wouldn't
- 7:14find out. You thought that the public
- 7:16would always be kept in the dark.
- 7:17And as it turns out, we now know these emails have become public,
- 7:20that you were pushing this propaganda effort and yet
- 7:22claiming the mantle of science. Don't you see?
- 7:24What you have done has set back the respectability and integrity
- 7:28of science by generations. In my opinion, that sucked.
- 7:32You were acting as propagandists.
- 7:34Do you regret your role in any of this?
- 7:35Hey y'all come look at this. So, Senator Hawley, I don't
- 7:41think you've characterized, do you?
- 7:42Regret your role in any of the misleading of the public?
- 7:45Do you regret your role in your office saying that a a lab Nexus
- 7:49here is a very destructive conspiracy?
- 7:50Do you regret your role in helping censor millions of
- 7:53Americans who were kicked off social media, who were
- 7:56disciplined at work for saying that maybe a lab was involved,
- 7:59which we now know the FBI thinks is the fact the case?
- 8:02Do you regret it? I do not believe I ever had the
- 8:05role that you're describing. Do you regret anything that you
- 8:08did during this period? Do you regret not speaking out?
- 8:10You regret not advising your boss to tempers comments?
- 8:11Do you regret not opposing the censorship?
- 8:13Do you regret it? You're in a position of
- 8:14tremendous influence. I do not believe censorship took
- 8:16place, Sir. You, you liar.