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Chuck & Buck 5-19 Hour 3: M's lineup juggling, ABC's of the Mariners and Gone Fishin' · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: All right, eight o'clock hour here on this Tuesday morning.
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Speaker 1: Great to have you with us. And when I say us,
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Speaker 1: anders Hurst is here, so is Travis Moger. My name
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Speaker 1: is Chuck Powell. Ashley will be filling in today at
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock for Greg Bels actually sent me a text
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Speaker 1: and I forgot to read it us.
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Speaker 2: Regarding information about our interview with Ryan. Hey, yeah, you're right,
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Speaker 2: Ryan Heally. She sent the zoom link for nine o'clock.
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Speaker 2: He'll join us at nine o'clock. We'll get his thoughts
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Speaker 2: on a lot of Mariner baseball topics, and we got
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Speaker 2: some juicy ones.
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Speaker 1: We've already talked about last night six to one win
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Speaker 1: over the Chicago White Sox. We've already discussed the piggyback
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Speaker 1: experiment that will start today. They'll conduct their first experiment
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Speaker 1: for tonight's game against the Chicago White Sox, if you're
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Speaker 1: not familiar with that. With six starting pitchers and only
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Speaker 1: five spots in the rotation, the Mariners have decided to
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Speaker 1: take Bryce Miller and Luis Castillo and combine them two
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Speaker 1: headed monster, if you will, for tonight's pitching a matchup.
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Speaker 1: Now they can't take the mound at the exact same time,
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's where your brain went. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but Bryce Miller is going to start. Who would be
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Speaker 1: the bottom half, who would be the top half? I
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Speaker 1: think they just stand on ones on the opposite side
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Speaker 1: of the pitches. Okay, okay, I get extra large jersey,
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Speaker 1: both wind up at the same time, and then you
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Speaker 1: don't know which one is coming from. Ooh, okay. That
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Speaker 1: is a good way to do it. That is a
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Speaker 1: great way to do it. And I don't think they're
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Speaker 1: creative enough over there. It's yeah for the Mariners to
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Speaker 1: come up with that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't just do something that's never been done before.
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Speaker 2: They have to take it to the next level, that's right.
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Speaker 1: So it'll be Bryce Miller starting and then Luis Castillo
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Speaker 1: will come in reserve in that situation. So a lot
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Speaker 1: of Mariner topics to discuss. So certainly we'll get Ryan's
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Speaker 1: opinion on that coming up. But right now, Cold Emerson
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Speaker 1: seems to be the number one topic with the Mariners.
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Speaker 1: It's the biggest name in the word cloud for the
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Speaker 1: Mariners right now, and we certainly want to get into
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Speaker 1: how this thing's going to work going forward. Let me
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Speaker 1: Cold Emerson hit It got his first hit last night
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Speaker 1: as a big leaguer. If you turned off the television
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Speaker 1: because you thought three to one, the Mariners never blow
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Speaker 1: a three to one lead, never, what are you talking about,
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Speaker 1: then you didn't get to see cold Emerson get his
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Speaker 1: first hit, which was a laser beam home run over
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Speaker 1: the right field wall on a pitch that was below
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Speaker 1: the strike zone. Just a good looking stroke. And man,
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Speaker 1: he'd hit some balls hard and hadn't any any luck
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Speaker 1: through his first two games. But to square up a
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Speaker 1: ball like that, for that to be your first hit
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Speaker 1: as a big leaguer, that was special last night. And
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Speaker 1: you mentioned it earlier too.
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Speaker 2: He I think he purposely waited for his parents to
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Speaker 2: get in the in the house because they weren't there
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Speaker 2: on Sunday. So good good to have him there last night.
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Speaker 2: And can you imagine what that feeling like. I mean,
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Speaker 2: as a new parent, I can't even imagine, but having
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Speaker 2: your being to watch your kid be in the major
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Speaker 2: leagues first of all, is awesome, and then seeing his
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Speaker 2: first hit, Oh my god, that'd be even better having
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Speaker 2: his first hit be a home run. And I mentioned
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Speaker 2: this last night my post came show. That's not a
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Speaker 2: low leverage situation. Three to one versus six to one
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Speaker 2: is a big difference, especially like what you were talking
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Speaker 2: about with blowing leads and stuff. That was a kind
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Speaker 2: of a big moment in the game. They had squandered
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Speaker 2: a couple opportunities to get, you know, some insurance runs
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Speaker 2: and having that little exhale going into the ninth inning,
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Speaker 2: having a nice like you said, kick kick your feet
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Speaker 2: up inning from Andre's munos, I think did a lot
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Speaker 2: of good.
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Speaker 1: Good for you. Colt Eimerson, Yeah, it was great, great
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Speaker 1: to see. I like the number four. I like the kid.
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Speaker 1: I've got him just in the last couple of spring trainings.
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Speaker 1: And man Angie was right last night when she was
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Speaker 1: talking about it's just the kind of kid that you
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Speaker 1: want to be around that you hope you raised a
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Speaker 1: kid that good. That's kind of the way that he
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Speaker 1: comes across. He's very talented. I think right now he's
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Speaker 1: a better defensive short stop than JP Crawford and he's
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Speaker 1: already not even playing his primary position. Made a couple
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Speaker 1: of nice plays over there defensively at third base as well.
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Speaker 1: He almost got caught off guard by that reckless Antonachi
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Speaker 1: kept fella, just a troublemaker.
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Speaker 2: What he is trying to take advantage of a guy
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Speaker 2: in his second career MLB game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really what was going on. And he's
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Speaker 1: one of those where like the old parents on the couple,
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Speaker 1: like that Antonachi boy, he's in trouble again. I'm telling
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Speaker 1: you keep him away from our grand Bud Davies, always
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Speaker 1: getting into trouble, always shooting off bottle rockets, always drinking
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Speaker 1: too much and leaving his spear cans outside of the stoop.
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Speaker 1: I don't trust that Antonachi kid as far as I
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Speaker 1: could draw one. And that's the kind of player you
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Speaker 1: got in Anthwer. Okay, great, and it almost caught our
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Speaker 1: golden boy cold Emerson off guard. And yet nope, gotta
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Speaker 1: get up pretty early in the morning, Antonachi, the fool
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Speaker 1: old cold Emerson old so yeah, very old. Yeah. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: great night for him. He's made a great first impression.
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Speaker 2: I got one quick stat that I think is pretty
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Speaker 2: cool at twenty years in three hundred and two days.
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Speaker 2: Coldt Emerson is the youngest Mariners player to Homer since
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Speaker 2: Jose Lopez on September thirteenth, two thousand and four. Jose Lopez,
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Speaker 2: of course, also War number four. And the best part
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Speaker 2: about this stat that was before Colt Emerson was born. Oh,
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Speaker 2: he was born in two thousand and five, if that
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Speaker 2: makes you feel any but younger.
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Speaker 1: Cold Emerson's such a complete person though. Anders He knows
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Speaker 1: about all.
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Speaker 2: Old shows and movies here we go and history. My god, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he really takes the thing. Is old for him means
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Speaker 2: anything before twenty ten. So you yeah, let's pump the
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Speaker 2: brakes on. You know, he's heard of Naughty by Nature,
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Speaker 2: he knows what opp is about. Okay, fair enough, he's
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Speaker 2: seen Dumb and Dumber.
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Speaker 1: I'm playing it at the joke here, all right, all right,
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about him. So now that we've kind
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Speaker 1: of described it, and he's been such a big topic
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Speaker 1: on this show and many others here so far this season.
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Speaker 1: Right now, he is playing third base because Brendan Donovan
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Speaker 1: is hurt. I'm convinced, and I don't say this in
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Speaker 1: a cruel way. I'm just being direct about it, I
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Speaker 1: am convinced the Mariners, even though cold Emerson did not
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Speaker 1: light it up in Tacoma, they were almost ready to
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Speaker 1: name him an everyday starter back in spring training. They
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Speaker 1: gave him the opportunity to show him. They weren't ruling
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Speaker 1: it out, so they believed he's pretty close for a
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Speaker 1: long time. They stated it pretty boldly before the season
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Speaker 1: even began, and he wasn't lighting it up. I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I went and watch to play Friday night, and I
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Speaker 1: did not drive home thinking cold Emerson's gotta be called up.
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Speaker 1: It's going to happen. I was surprised on Sunday when
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Speaker 1: we got the news. Then again, I didn't know Brendan
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Speaker 1: Donovan was going on the injury list, and so Donovan
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Speaker 1: goes on the IL. And here's the cruel part. But
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Speaker 1: I'm just being direct. I think the organization was right
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Speaker 1: there with you two, and I I'm assuming you're with
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Speaker 1: me on this. They could not stand Leo Revos playing
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Speaker 1: one more day at third base. Oh my god, yeah,
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Speaker 1: as a starting third baseman. They just I can't even
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Speaker 1: bear it. And so Revos got sent down to the IL.
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Speaker 1: Patrick Wisdom takes his spot now on the roster and
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Speaker 1: cold Emerson is the starting third baseman until further notice.
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Speaker 1: But we all hope because we all like what we've
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Speaker 1: seen out of Brendan Donovan, and I don't think he's
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Speaker 1: injury prone. I think he hit the bag really hard
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Speaker 1: and awkwardly about two weeks three weeks into the season,
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Speaker 1: and it jarred some stuff loose. You charge some stuff
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Speaker 1: loose there, Tiger, And I just don't think he's been
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Speaker 1: healthy since that time. So now that you've activated cold
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Speaker 1: Emerson and you don't want to play this game of
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Speaker 1: yo yoeing him back and forth to the miners, you
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Speaker 1: know he's going to play third base for a while,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure, until Donovan is completely healthy. But Brendan
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Speaker 1: Donovan's going to be back at some point this season,
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Speaker 1: we're assuming, And they've already gone as far anders as
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Speaker 1: saying at least it sounds like this is Adam Jude
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Speaker 1: reporting that Donovan's not going to come back to a
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Speaker 1: starting third base job, that it's cold Emerson's job. JP
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Speaker 1: will stay shortstoped and Donovan will take some sort of
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Speaker 1: super utility role like he filled with the Saint Louis Cardinals. However,
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Speaker 1: that might look. So I already see the grimace on
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Speaker 1: your face. How do you see if you don't agree
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Speaker 1: with that, how do you see the pieces working?
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Speaker 2: If I were the manager or general manager whoever makes
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Speaker 2: these decisions of the Seattle Mariners. Once Brendan was Jerry, Yeah, thanks,
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Speaker 2: he's listening right now. Once Brendan Donovan is healthy enough
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Speaker 2: to be an everyday player, and I'm okay with the
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Speaker 2: situation right now, because this is kind of what you're
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Speaker 2: forced into, right Cole Emerson playing third, JP playing short,
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Speaker 2: and then Brendan Donovan's on the injured list once he's back.
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Speaker 2: I like what I saw from Donovan at third base.
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Speaker 2: Definitely grew into that role a little bit. I like
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Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan at third, I like Colt Emerson at short,
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Speaker 2: and I like JP Crawford d aging. That's and he
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Speaker 2: would be my everyday DH.
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Speaker 1: At this point.
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Speaker 3: Why not DH Brendan Donovan so that he doesn't get
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Speaker 3: hurt again because he seems to be pretty injury prone.
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Speaker 2: But part of what gives him value Brendan Donovan is
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Speaker 2: his defense. And JP Crawford I believe, would literally give
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Speaker 2: you more value by not playing defense because he gives
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Speaker 2: you negative value playing defense at this point.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much value Donovan gives you playing
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Speaker 1: He was getting better at third, right He was a
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Speaker 1: disaster in the first first yeah he was, Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: he was getting better. He seemed to be ironing things out.
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Speaker 1: I think cold Emerson's an upgrade over either one of
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Speaker 1: them defensively at third base or shortstop. I do think
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Speaker 1: Donovan's best role probably is as a ben Zobrist super
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Speaker 1: utility type that you could play him at third, you
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Speaker 1: could play him at second. If you played him at third,
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Speaker 1: Emerson could play at shortstop and give JP a day off.
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Speaker 1: Donovan could DH. Donovan can play corner outfield. Donovan could
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Speaker 1: probably play left field better than Randy or Rose Arena
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Speaker 1: can play left field, and then you could have Randy
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Speaker 1: DH a few more times. Of course, we don't want
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Speaker 1: to upset Randy's offensive game right now, and sometimes that's
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Speaker 1: a strange transition for players. They don't exactly embrace going
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Speaker 1: to the DH. They don't feel involved in the game,
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Speaker 1: and Randy tends to not be focused sometimes, so I
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Speaker 1: don't know if we want to do that to him.
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Speaker 1: Donovan could probably also play right field as well. Point
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Speaker 1: is that it feels like that's what they're choosing to
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Speaker 1: do right now, that it's Emerson at third for the
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Speaker 1: long term, Crawford the shortstop, they seem determined to keep
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Speaker 1: him at shortstop, and then Donovan returns as a utility player,
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Speaker 1: super utility player type, and that leaves a Rose Arena
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Speaker 1: as your prime left field er. Of course, your right
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Speaker 1: field situation is Raleigh Canzone, Roeblaze, Refsnyder, and maybe Brennan
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Speaker 1: Davis long term. I mean, obviously not all five of
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Speaker 1: those guys are gonna fit. You're probably gonna have to
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Speaker 1: boil it down to two of them. And then your
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Speaker 1: DH situation obviously is going to rotate around all of
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Speaker 1: those names that we just mentioned. And this goes without
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Speaker 1: even we're talking long term right a trading deadline where
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Speaker 1: I think the impetus behind the trading deadline this year
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Speaker 1: as long as we're in it, and remember, we can
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Speaker 1: be a first place team at the end of the
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Speaker 1: night as song as we're in it. And we're adding
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Speaker 1: we talked about this on stove, what are you going
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Speaker 1: to add? You are going to add a right handed
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Speaker 1: thumper because you just don't have anyone right now that
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Speaker 1: scares managers away from throwing left handers at you constantly.
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Speaker 1: Emerson's another left hander. Donovan comes back to another left hander.
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Speaker 1: JP Crawf is another left Luke Raley, I mean, Cole Young.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're just we're having a left hander sale
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Speaker 1: right here in Seattle. So I think if you're going
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Speaker 1: to add something at the trading deadline, it's got to
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Speaker 1: be some sort of right handed thumper. And then based
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Speaker 1: on what we just broke down criteria wise, it's got
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Speaker 1: to be either a right fielder that just clears up
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Speaker 1: all of that mess out there, or a DH there's
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Speaker 1: really no other place for him unless you're not sold
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Speaker 1: on JP Crowt being the shortstop long term, which for
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Speaker 1: a lot of us feels like the feels like the
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Speaker 1: right move.
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Speaker 2: I just feel like, and you talked about where you
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Speaker 2: can upgrade this team, I feel like the easiest aspect
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Speaker 2: of the team to upgrade is defense. That in hitting
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Speaker 2: versus left handed pitching, those are the two things that
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Speaker 2: I think you could say are the biggest needs for
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Speaker 2: this team.
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Speaker 1: And you don't even.
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Speaker 2: Have to add externally to upgrade the defense. You just
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Speaker 2: once Brendan Donovan is healthy, once again, you upgrade your
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Speaker 2: shortstop immensely by playing Cole Timerson. There we're talking defensively.
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Speaker 2: I realized JP with the bat give and take, but
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Speaker 2: he more often than not he gives you a decent
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Speaker 2: at bat and gets on base all that stuff. And
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Speaker 2: then you have Brendan Donovan, who, like you said, has
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Speaker 2: been getting a lot better at third base. I think
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Speaker 2: of all the positions that you mentioned in Randy and left,
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Speaker 2: whoever plays right, those are kind of the all the
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Speaker 2: rotating spots based off of how you want to do this.
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Speaker 2: The thing that's most it's important to fix defensively a shortstop,
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Speaker 2: and you can do that without even making an addition
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Speaker 2: to the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: At this point, I don't think JP Crawford, I agree
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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I'm not discab. I don't think JP
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Speaker 1: Crawford can justifiably be the DH on a team. He walks,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's what he gets on base. Okay, well, okay,
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Speaker 1: he's also slow. He doesn't steal bases, he doesn't hit doubles.
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Speaker 1: It's either a home run or a single and so,
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Speaker 1: and he's not going to hit a lot of home runs.
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Speaker 1: And when he's trying to hit home runs, that's what
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Speaker 1: makes him worse, and that's what actually weakens him as
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Speaker 1: an offensive player. I look, we had a lot of
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Speaker 1: conversation about six man rotation, did we not? We did?
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Speaker 1: And it felt to me that when push came to
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Speaker 1: shove and they actually had to make the decision, even
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Speaker 1: though they put a bunch of support behind Luis Castille,
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Speaker 1: what was the decision that they made putting him in
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Speaker 1: the bullpen? Put him into the bullpen. So make the
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Speaker 1: same one here, right, You've got five starting rotation. Spots
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Speaker 1: talked about this last week. It's on a promo. I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's very simple. Three of your best five guys. This
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Speaker 1: is not we're not playing Patty Cake this year. This
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Speaker 1: is about winning a World Series, okay, And so if
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Speaker 1: you've got a decision to make, always fall back on
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Speaker 1: the decision who are best five guys? That's your starting rotation.
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Speaker 1: And when push came to show and I know they're piggybacking,
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Speaker 1: and we've already discussed this, and I think it's a
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Speaker 1: very fascinating, interesting idea and I think it could work
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Speaker 1: and it could pay dividends. But the truth of the
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Speaker 1: matter is the decision that they made was we're going
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Speaker 1: with our five best starters and the starting rotation. So
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Speaker 1: they did the right thing. I think when push comes
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Speaker 1: to shove, they're going to do the right thing with
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Speaker 1: JP as well. And I realized what everybody's saying. I
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Speaker 1: realized what Ryan Healy's going to tell us at nine o'clock.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's told me off the are he goes
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Speaker 1: they're not moving J. P. Grawford off of shortstop. They
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Speaker 1: think he's too valuable to the law locker room. That's
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Speaker 1: that's sort of the general thought. Yes, well, maybe that
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Speaker 1: is what they do. It's not what I would do.
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Speaker 1: There is probably going to come a time this season
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Speaker 1: in which you're going to have again, we got too many,
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Speaker 1: especially if you add something at the trading deadline. We
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Speaker 1: got too many good hitters. And when I have nine
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Speaker 1: spots to fill, Cold Emerson to short Brendan Donovan the third,
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Speaker 1: Byron Buxton to right field like that, and then your
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Speaker 1: DH is a combination.
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Speaker 2: Of Raleigh canzone Wells zones in the trade for Buxton,
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Speaker 2: Raley and ref Snyder or Roeblaze or Brendan Davis, one
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Speaker 2: of the three by the end of the season.
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Speaker 1: That's to me, there will come a time where they're
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Speaker 1: not going to be able to deny it. What makes
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Speaker 1: us a better team right now? Cold Emerson right now
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Speaker 1: is a better defensive shortstop than JP Crawford. He can
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Speaker 1: show he can hit, then he's a better player than
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Speaker 1: JP Crawford. Yes, and so I think that's going to
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Speaker 1: be a difficult decision down the line, but I think
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Speaker 1: that it will be the decision that they are they're
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Speaker 1: going to have to make because this is not about
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Speaker 1: JP Crawford's feelings. This is not about we got to
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Speaker 1: win a World Series but only of JP's playing shortstuff.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be about we got to do
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Speaker 1: win a World Series no matter what it takes, and
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Speaker 1: what it might take is that JP, unfortunately is not
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Speaker 1: one of the nine best players in this organization, and
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Speaker 1: I think that there are other leaders on this team
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Speaker 1: that if he's a great leader, he'll understand that lost.
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Speaker 1: Luis Castillo is going to have to understand that he's
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Speaker 1: not one of the best five starting pitchers right now,
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Speaker 1: and I expect him to still be a leader on
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Speaker 1: this team. I think cal Raley is the captain of
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Speaker 1: this team, and I think Josh Naylor plays a really
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Speaker 1: significant role as a leader on this team. How many
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Speaker 1: leaders do we need? How valuable could his individual leadership
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Speaker 1: be that we're going to go with a subpar shortstop
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Speaker 1: when it matters most this year.
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Speaker 2: And if you're a true leader, like you said, you
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Speaker 2: do what's best for the team. And it's not about
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Speaker 2: tenure at this point. It's not about who's been here
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Speaker 2: the longest or who deserves it, because I was here
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Speaker 2: through the entire Rebuilder. It's my contract year. You owe
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Speaker 2: it to me to play me through the rest of
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Speaker 2: the year.
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Speaker 1: No, you want to win a World Series, Wayne World's
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Speaker 1: put the best nine out on the field. Yes, and
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Speaker 1: right now JP is one of the nine. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: And so for right now, he's got this runway. He's
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Speaker 1: got all the support publicly, and it sounds like he
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Speaker 1: believes he's got the support of everybody behind him in
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Speaker 1: the front office and on the coaching staff. Yep. So
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Speaker 1: go out and prove it. Make it impossible to be
18:43
Speaker 1: taken off of shortstop. Start putting the ball and play
18:45
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, make up, make one
18:48
Speaker 1: play to your right or left. And so he's got
18:53
Speaker 1: every opportunity. With Brendan Donovan on the il to say,
18:58
Speaker 1: no one's taking my job. I would love for JP
19:02
Speaker 1: to be the shortstop of the twenty twenty six world
19:06
Speaker 1: champion Seattle Mariners. But I am a lot bigger fan
19:10
Speaker 1: of the Seattle Mariners being a world champion without JP
19:14
Speaker 1: Crawford than us not winning a championship. Yeah. I think
19:19
Speaker 1: it's a fair statement, and everybody should be on that
19:23
Speaker 1: same page, every listener, every fan, every analyst, every coach,
19:29
Speaker 1: every executive out there. I hope JP seizes this and
19:33
Speaker 1: that he and Colt Emerson make beautiful music together on
19:36
Speaker 1: the left side of the infield, and Brendan Donovan has
19:38
Speaker 1: no choice but to be a super utility player when
19:41
Speaker 1: he comes back from the injury list. Yes, but if
19:43
Speaker 1: it comes down to it, we are not going to
19:47
Speaker 1: protect people's feelings to this season. It is about winning
19:51
Speaker 1: a championship, and I think there is an excellent chance
19:54
Speaker 1: that when Donovan's healthy that our best scenario is Donovan
19:58
Speaker 1: at third and Emerson or Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the way to go forward, right, And
20:04
Speaker 2: you you upgrade your defense, you know, depending on what
20:08
Speaker 2: you do at the trade deadline, your offense gets a
20:09
Speaker 2: little bit better as well. Yeah, but that's that's the
20:12
Speaker 2: way that you know it needs to play out. And
20:15
Speaker 2: I'm not like you said, that's not the way it
20:16
Speaker 2: is right now. JP Crawford deserves to be playing right now.
20:20
Speaker 2: But yes, if it gets to a point where you
20:23
Speaker 2: need to play Cold Emerson every day, Brendan Donovan's back
20:25
Speaker 2: and hitting, playing good defense, and JP Crawford hasn't taken
20:29
Speaker 2: that step up to be the guy where it's like, hey,
20:32
Speaker 2: I need to prove that you need to play me
20:33
Speaker 2: every single day. Then you need to make a hard decision.
20:37
Speaker 1: And I will say this too. You've built your stuff
20:39
Speaker 1: around pitching, right, do you know how you make pitchers better?
20:44
Speaker 1: Better defense? Shortstop specifically, it's the most important thing. Better
20:49
Speaker 1: a lot of the better defense. You want to get
20:52
Speaker 1: pitchers through the sixth and the seventh inning. Don't give
20:55
Speaker 1: them extra outs to work with, yeah, because that's extra pitches.
21:00
Speaker 1: So we do have to shore up the defense. Yeah,
21:04
Speaker 1: And I'm saying this is it. I have expectations the
21:08
Speaker 1: Mariners gonna win the American League West to make the playoffs.
21:10
Speaker 1: By playoffs. We can't have this bad of a defense. Yep.
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Speaker 1: All right, coming up next more Mariners ABC's of the
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Speaker 1: m Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A RFM.
21:22
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for the ABC's of the MS
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Speaker 1: here where we allow the alphabet to be a guide
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Speaker 1: through a daily Mariner segment. Yeah, Mariners win six to
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Speaker 1: one last night. But I don't know, maybe some things
21:34
Speaker 1: will come up about the game last night. Maybe they won't.
21:36
Speaker 1: It's entirely up to the magical alphabet. We left all
21:40
Speaker 1: of the letter E, and of course the alphabet has
21:42
Speaker 1: no choice here Emerson's he is for Emerson's. And since
21:47
Speaker 1: we just finished talking about cult the player and the
21:50
Speaker 1: situations all surrounding Colt, I think the alphabet wants us
21:55
Speaker 1: to talk about the family Emerson's because you brought it up.
21:59
Speaker 1: I thought that it was a great part. I always
22:01
Speaker 1: love seeing that. Actually, in a way, it kind of
22:03
Speaker 1: makes me a little bit sad, because you know, I
22:07
Speaker 1: thought I had possibly a major league future at one
22:10
Speaker 1: point as a kid, and I certainly was already envisioning
22:16
Speaker 1: the day that I was going to be able to
22:17
Speaker 1: call my parents yeah and tell my dad and I
22:20
Speaker 1: you know, obviously way ahead, because I didn't come anywhere close,
22:23
Speaker 1: but I certainly in my head was like looking forward
22:26
Speaker 1: to like man could I possibly have that day and
22:28
Speaker 1: get the call up and go. My friend Jason Isringhausen,
22:32
Speaker 1: who I played high school baseball with, he did get
22:35
Speaker 1: to experience that. I was living out in Vegas at
22:38
Speaker 1: the time, but he growing up in Saint Louis his
22:43
Speaker 1: opener when he got called up with the Cardinals, or
22:46
Speaker 1: actually was with the Mets when he went to No,
22:48
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it was with the Mets. He got
22:49
Speaker 1: called up with the Mets and it was at Wrigley
22:52
Speaker 1: Field where he made his debut. So five hour drive
22:56
Speaker 1: for all of his friends and family members up to
22:58
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field and got to see him there. So I
23:01
Speaker 1: didn't get to do that, and it's and on one
23:03
Speaker 1: hand it's a little sad, but on the other end,
23:05
Speaker 1: it just fills me up. I loved seeing the whole
23:08
Speaker 1: family there, how proud they were Dad, mom, got the
23:11
Speaker 1: love that they got to celebrate a home run last night.
23:14
Speaker 1: I love that they were giving good merchandise. They picked
23:16
Speaker 1: some real plums from the merchandise last night. Loved the
23:19
Speaker 1: white jacket Missus Emerson.
23:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, like really fitting in there well with the elites
23:25
Speaker 2: of the Seattle sports world.
23:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I loved it.
23:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like living vicariously through those moments, you know
23:31
Speaker 2: what I mean, because baseball is different than almost any
23:35
Speaker 2: other sport when it comes to that kind of thing.
23:37
Speaker 2: It's very ceremonial, is the word I would look for,
23:40
Speaker 2: because there are those stepping stones, there is the grind
23:44
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues, and then when you can finally
23:45
Speaker 2: get it to the major leagues. It's a little bit
23:47
Speaker 2: different for someone like cold Eimerson. It's so twenty and
23:49
Speaker 2: he's always been hyped as like one of the guys,
23:51
Speaker 2: and he's already been given his contract, so it's a
23:53
Speaker 2: little bit different for him. But I also had dreams
23:57
Speaker 2: of becoming a professional soccer player, and then by the
24:00
Speaker 2: time I had to quit when I was in college,
24:02
Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, it's that dream is over now.
24:05
Speaker 2: And now seeing someone else see the joy and that
24:09
Speaker 2: is pretty dang cool. And like I said, as a
24:11
Speaker 2: new parent, it kind of it warms me up. Yeah,
24:14
Speaker 2: and I touches you in a different way. It does.
24:16
Speaker 2: And like the mom crying after the home run, the
24:19
Speaker 2: dad's just like complete surprise, like what just happened. It's
24:23
Speaker 2: so fun to watch and his whole family being there,
24:25
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sure they supported his career day
24:29
Speaker 2: in and day out, and it's good. It's good to
24:31
Speaker 2: see them feel that joy.
24:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, my son plays baseball and he does kid pitch now,
24:37
Speaker 3: which is like, oh boy, big step, big step. It
24:40
Speaker 3: can be a little the games can drag sometimes there's
24:46
Speaker 3: a lot of balls outside the zone, I'll say, but
24:50
Speaker 3: when you know, when he pitches and gets a strikeout,
24:54
Speaker 3: it's just like that feeling is so cool and so
24:58
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's so amazing. I can't even
25:01
Speaker 3: imagine when it's like to have that at the major
25:04
Speaker 3: league level. You know, when my eight year old strikes
25:07
Speaker 3: out another eight year old, it's a big deal. It
25:09
Speaker 3: is let alone, you know for the Mariners happening.
25:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think that My dad looks at me
25:15
Speaker 1: and like, why did you deprive me of that? He
25:17
Speaker 1: played me. I think he holds it against me, and
25:20
Speaker 1: I'm not even really I'm exaggerating a little bit, but
25:23
Speaker 1: I think there's something to it. Yeah, I got a
25:24
Speaker 1: relationship was not the same after my baseball career, me
25:28
Speaker 1: watching baseball away from me. You had what it.
25:31
Speaker 3: Took, I mean, to be fair, threw it away. It's
25:35
Speaker 3: a lot of work for the parents. Yeah, to go
25:38
Speaker 3: through that for years and years years and take.
25:40
Speaker 1: You to all the practice that he threw me. I
25:43
Speaker 1: mean he was my coach, and all the times he
25:45
Speaker 1: sat on a bucket and I pitched to him, all
25:48
Speaker 1: of that stuff, and he's like, you know, I've got
25:50
Speaker 1: bucket sores on my ass. It's because of you, for
25:54
Speaker 1: no reason. But I do it all over again. All right,
25:58
Speaker 1: I'm only going to be able to get one fis
26:00
Speaker 1: for farce. We got to talk about this because this
26:04
Speaker 1: was one of the worst calls. And I don't know
26:07
Speaker 1: why Angie and Aaron were defending this. I mean, I
26:10
Speaker 1: get you're the hometown broadcast team, but come on, that
26:14
Speaker 1: was a terrible interference call last night. If that would
26:18
Speaker 1: have happened to a Mariner. If a Mariner, if JP
26:23
Speaker 1: was standing with his back to a base runner and
26:27
Speaker 1: the base runner intentionally ran into him, because that's what
26:32
Speaker 1: Parada did, Okay. I called a couple of Parada games
26:36
Speaker 1: in Tacoma. That guy's one of the slowest human beings
26:39
Speaker 1: that has ever lived, and yet he was trucking around
26:43
Speaker 1: second and he really wanted to score, and he knew
26:47
Speaker 1: his only chance was to the shortstop was close enough
26:50
Speaker 1: there was a ton of space for him to run by.
26:54
Speaker 1: He didn't even have to change his gait. No, Antonachi
26:59
Speaker 1: got his back to looking, wasn't even looking, and he
27:02
Speaker 1: runs right into the back of him. He had no
27:06
Speaker 1: chance of scoring on that play. And I get why
27:09
Speaker 1: will Vinible. I would have definitely been tossed from that
27:12
Speaker 1: game if I was the White Sox manager. That was
27:14
Speaker 1: a horrendous call. And if it would have been the
27:18
Speaker 1: other way around, I would be losing my mind this
27:21
Speaker 1: morning rather than laughing about it. Yeah, I'll take it.
27:24
Speaker 1: You know what we did. It was a bad call.
27:28
Speaker 2: I also like it's kind of a heads up play
27:31
Speaker 2: on Pareda's part, like, yeah, maybe a little dumb if
27:34
Speaker 2: you don't get that call, but might as well give
27:36
Speaker 2: it a shot, you know, And then just keeps running
27:38
Speaker 2: around third base, even though he had zero shot to
27:40
Speaker 2: beat out the throw. He knew that there was a
27:42
Speaker 2: likelihood or a possibility at least of that getting called,
27:46
Speaker 2: and maybe the umpire while he was rounding third base
27:49
Speaker 2: said something like, oh, interference, So that's why he kept going.
27:52
Speaker 1: Well, that's why the third Cordova sent him right, because
27:55
Speaker 1: he saw the collision and he's like, I'm going to
27:57
Speaker 1: take advantage of this because there was no way you
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Speaker 1: would send him. I mean, they know how slow he Yeah,
28:02
Speaker 1: I mean it's like he pulls up piano. I mean
28:05
Speaker 1: he is slow. He's like my aunt Shirley slow. JP Crawford,
28:10
Speaker 1: Parada Josh l Oh JP Crawford would lap Parada in
28:15
Speaker 1: a in a race around the base path. Yeah, okay,
28:17
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Parada is that slow? He had
28:21
Speaker 1: no chance of scoring on that. Cordova knew it, Paraded
28:24
Speaker 1: knew it. Uh and and Unford and fortunately for us,
28:29
Speaker 1: we caught a break. And look a lot of breaks
28:31
Speaker 1: we haven't caught this year, so we'll take it. You're
28:34
Speaker 1: gonna apologize for my favorite terrible call.
28:37
Speaker 2: My favorite part though, was Antonaci when uh, right after
28:40
Speaker 2: he kind of ran into him, quote unquote, he kind
28:42
Speaker 2: of looks find his shoulders, like what happened? What's this
28:44
Speaker 2: guy doing? Like just kind of like he's waiting for
28:47
Speaker 2: the cutoff. He's like, what is this guy doing? And
28:49
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he finds out that he
28:51
Speaker 2: interference and he's the reason they Mariners scored a run.
28:54
Speaker 1: It's like, what how did that happen? And then they
28:56
Speaker 1: show it in slow motion, and you know what it
28:58
Speaker 1: reminded me of is like like a scene from Jackass
29:02
Speaker 1: where a guy's like running through a crowd intentionally hitting
29:06
Speaker 1: other people to get their reaction, and they're like slow
29:11
Speaker 1: motion looking around, like why am I being hit right now?
29:15
Speaker 1: For what reason? I mean, that was a farce. That
29:18
Speaker 1: was a terrible call. But we'll take it. We'll take it.
29:21
Speaker 1: Eat it, white socks all day, every day, all right?
29:23
Speaker 1: Coming up next? Gee, I did have a G, but
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Speaker 1: G today is gonna have to be for gone fishing
29:29
Speaker 1: because that's what's next on Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 1: three KJRFM. Just one team sent fishing last night. I mean,
29:38
Speaker 1: our NBA Conference finals are just getting started. But from
29:41
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup playoffs, the Buffalo Sabers have been eliminated
29:46
Speaker 1: by the Montreal Canadians and thrilling fashion Game seven and
29:51
Speaker 1: Buffalo is shown the door. You know, they say there's
29:54
Speaker 1: nothing like a game seven and the Stanley Cup.
29:57
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, man, I got to think of something
30:00
Speaker 2: that's like a game seven the Stanley Cup playoffs.
30:02
Speaker 1: I got invited by twelve Angels. They were gonna spood
30:05
Speaker 1: fade me. Jello last night, and yeah, really good Jello,
30:15
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give me back rubs with their you know,
30:18
Speaker 1: heavenly fingertips, and I'm like, you know what, Angels, I
30:23
Speaker 1: appreciate the offer, and it's nice to know that God
30:26
Speaker 1: really does exist. Okay, but I can't make it to
30:28
Speaker 1: your little massage session because there's nothing like a Game
30:33
Speaker 1: seven of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, absolutely nothing like it.
30:37
Speaker 1: It was good. That was a good game.
30:38
Speaker 2: Yeah over time, right, yes, so pretty cool to see
30:44
Speaker 2: that happen.
30:45
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, is like you never like baseball. Yes,
30:48
Speaker 1: a home run can do it, but usually there's a
30:52
Speaker 1: build up, like there's a couple guys on base, yeah,
30:54
Speaker 1: and then you know there's one out and then this
30:56
Speaker 1: is a big thick part of the order, you know
30:58
Speaker 1: what I mean. Right, but hot it can just be
31:00
Speaker 1: over like that instantly, and that's what happened last night.
31:03
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that great of a scoring opportunity, but
31:09
Speaker 1: credit to the Canadian the hab I'm not sure which
31:12
Speaker 1: one it was, but he slashes right in front and
31:17
Speaker 1: then the defender of course had to follow him, and
31:20
Speaker 1: then that little screen provided just the fraction of time
31:25
Speaker 1: that the goalie could not see the shot being lined up,
31:30
Speaker 1: and he scores to win it. And that's two game
31:32
Speaker 1: sevens that new Hook has scored the game winner on Yeah,
31:35
Speaker 1: that's probably never happened.
31:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like a role player, like a kind
31:39
Speaker 2: of a third line guy.
31:40
Speaker 1: Right.
31:41
Speaker 2: We talked about Buffalo, I thought that was a brewery
31:44
Speaker 2: and new Hook New Hook sounds like one. Probably to
31:48
Speaker 2: be honest, there's a lot of brewers. Yeattle got a
31:51
Speaker 2: new Hook. I pa this last night. We talked about
31:55
Speaker 2: Buffalo's drought with the playoffs, but another huge drought in
31:59
Speaker 2: hawk Key is the non Canadian team winning the Stanley
32:05
Speaker 2: Cup playoffs.
32:05
Speaker 1: And Montreal is the last Canadian team left. And yeah,
32:08
Speaker 1: we don't want to see them, do we. I mean,
32:10
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Carolina Colorado, is it not. I
32:13
Speaker 1: hate Carolina, I really do. So you want Montreal Canada?
32:18
Speaker 2: I do. I hate Canada, but I hate Tom Dundan more.
32:23
Speaker 2: He's the owner of the Blazers who also owns the
32:25
Speaker 2: Carolina Hurricanes.
32:26
Speaker 1: Oh I see, I see.
32:28
Speaker 2: I don't want him to have any sort of success
32:30
Speaker 2: and honestly, he run Ian's mentioned this a couple times
32:33
Speaker 2: on his show. He runs the Hurricanes a lot like
32:36
Speaker 2: he runs the Blazers as well, just super cheap. There's
32:39
Speaker 2: a reason why the krackn have probably the best local
32:43
Speaker 2: play by play announcer on TV in the entire league,
32:46
Speaker 2: and it's in John Foresland, just because he wasn't Carolina
32:49
Speaker 2: and they didn't want to pay him and so right
32:51
Speaker 2: before the crack and became in existence. And we'll we'll
32:54
Speaker 2: take that loss obviously, but like hey, you know, like
32:58
Speaker 2: it's just just one of those things where it's like, yeah,
33:00
Speaker 2: I'd rather the Canadians win, but you're probably right.
33:03
Speaker 1: It probably is gonna be Carolina versus Colorado. It seems
33:06
Speaker 1: like a four gone conclusion. But Stanley cuple, I mean,
33:08
Speaker 1: Montreal wasn't supposed to win the first round whenever they
33:11
Speaker 1: are two rounds into it and still going, and so yeah,
33:16
Speaker 1: we'll see. I'm happy with that little Canadian versus American
33:20
Speaker 1: however it falls. But I would think for the NHL's sake,
33:24
Speaker 1: for ratings sake, probably better if they have a really
33:28
Speaker 1: believable Stanley Cup final, like Carolina versus Colorado.
33:32
Speaker 2: Well, if you're looking at market size, Montreal is a
33:35
Speaker 2: much bigger hockey market than Carolina is.
33:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just talking about like nationally sure rating. Yeah,
33:42
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. But Buffalo's gone fishing.
33:45
Speaker 1: The Sabers have been sent home. Buffalo just doesn't get
33:48
Speaker 1: nice things. Sorry, Buffalo. You seem like a nice people.
33:52
Speaker 1: You're practically Canada cold enough. Yeah, yeah, that's right, Amster.
33:58
Speaker 2: Is that where is that East coast? People think Seattle
34:02
Speaker 2: is where it's just like Canada South. I don't know,
34:06
Speaker 2: probably a comp there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're practically Canadian, they're right there on
34:12
Speaker 1: the border. Yeah. But the Sabers go home. And for
34:15
Speaker 1: our Green Jacket draft, that means Ashley's lost to Taje Thompson.
34:19
Speaker 1: But she's got such a big lead she's going to
34:21
Speaker 1: win easily, So no big deal, all right. Coming up next,
34:25
Speaker 1: Ryan Healey's going to join us for our typical Tuesday
34:28
Speaker 1: segment with the former Mariner. We got a lot to
34:30
Speaker 1: discuss with Healey. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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