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Set 1: We'll See · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: Stu Gatz.
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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you, Bruce, there's a good
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  Speaker 3: chance I'd be high anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Woo!
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  Speaker 4: And I'm wondering how the football weekend was. Were you
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  Speaker 4: able to watch it? Wow, what happened? Oh, I'm tired
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  Speaker 4: of him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm serious.
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  Speaker 4: How about that?
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  Speaker 2: In company. We are mother shuckers, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Woo!
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  Speaker 1: Bruce, does Faison Brandon's name sound like it's on backwards?
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  Speaker 4: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to get your.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to get your financials. To get the all boat.
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  Speaker 4: You got nothing right there.
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  Speaker 1: This is not going well.
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  Speaker 2: This is Stu Gotts and Company. Stu, back to you.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, put it on the poll, please, before we get
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  Speaker 3: to the top five games and discuss last night's game.
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  Speaker 4: Is A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown washed?
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  Speaker 4: Mikey A. just said that to me right before we
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  Speaker 4: got started here.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's a fair question to ask when
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  Speaker 3: you consider three catches, 46 yards, no touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: He's been an absolute disaster. thus far for the New
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  Speaker 4: England Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: If you took the name off the back of A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown's jersey and judged him strictly off what he's putting
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  Speaker 1: on tape right now, you'd say he's a below-average receiver.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not going as far to say that A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown is washed or A.J. Brown suddenly forgot how to
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  Speaker 1: play football. The Patriots, though, for the Patriots team to
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  Speaker 1: reach their full potential this season... they're going to need A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown to start looking like A.J. Brown again. The deep
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  Speaker 1: ball that he dropped, that's a tough play for really
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  Speaker 1: any receiver to make, I think. But A.J. Brown's not
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be any other receiver.
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  Speaker 3: A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown's supposed to be a top-ten receiver. And then don't
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  Speaker 1: even get me started on his blocking last night. His
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  Speaker 1: blocking was his blocking. I'm putting blocking in quotes because
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  Speaker 1: of how bad his blocking effort was. Where if he
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  Speaker 1: just puts even the slightest bit of effort on that
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  Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson run in the first quarter when they're already
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  Speaker 1: down 10-0... That springs him free for a touchdown. That's
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  Speaker 1: the difference in these games.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like I didn't have to get you started.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me started.
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  Speaker 4: You said don't get me started, and then you got started.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me started.
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  Speaker 2: Self-starter right there.
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  Speaker 4: You started anyways.
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  Speaker 3: What's the point of telling me if you're going to
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  Speaker 3: start anyway?
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  Speaker 1: You just look at A.J. Brown, and he looks like
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  Speaker 1: a Greek god in terms of his body and what
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  Speaker 1: he's supposed to be able to do in physique and
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  Speaker 1: what he's supposed to be able to do on a
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  Speaker 1: football field. So when I'm a 5'9, scrawny receiver who
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have half the tools A.J. Brown has, seeing him
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  Speaker 1: waste his potential where he was refusing to block a
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  Speaker 1: defensive back, it's insulting to the game of football.
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  Speaker 4: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. His lack of blocking is?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, put it on the poll. Is A.J. Brown's lack
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  Speaker 4: of blocking an insult to football?
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  Speaker 2: If I had A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown's physique, they would be measuring me right now for
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  Speaker 1: a gold jacket.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, don't think I don't notice. There are a million
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  Speaker 3: poll questions I ask you to put on the poll.
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  Speaker 3: I still got 790 at X that you don't put on.
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  Speaker 1: We're spinning a lot of plates here.
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  Speaker 4: I know, but just keep track and write them down.
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  Speaker 4: Someone write them down.
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  Speaker 1: There's two of you.
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  Speaker 3: Just somebody write them down so we can get them
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  Speaker 3: all on there. Mikey, what were your thoughts besides A.J.
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  Speaker 4: Brown being washed?
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  Speaker 2: No, I have more thoughts on A.J. Brown being washed.
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right that those deep balls, like, that's what
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  Speaker 2: you're there for. And for the most part, A.J. Brown
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  Speaker 2: is a non-factor in this offense. Like, he had three catches,
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  Speaker 2: and I think two of them came in garbage time
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  Speaker 2: of the half and garbage time of the end of
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  Speaker 2: the game. And they were wide open, just catch it
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  Speaker 2: and fall to the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They're not even looking his way when it matters. And
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  Speaker 2: he's supposed to be the player that gets them from
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender to Super Bowl champion. And he's not
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  Speaker 2: even interested, it looks like. It looks like he's already
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  Speaker 2: upset with his usage. Meanwhile, he got 10 targets last
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  Speaker 2: week and dropped 15. I would say six of them.
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  Speaker 2: I think officially they counted it as three. But I
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  Speaker 2: think even even he'd tell you he dropped six of them.
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  Speaker 3: You can't be the guy that, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: fights his way, yells his way out of Philadelphia, wants
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  Speaker 3: to be a number one wide receiver, wants to play
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  Speaker 3: with a quarterback who can get him the ball down
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  Speaker 3: the field, has that quarterback, is the guy in New
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  Speaker 3: England and play the way he's played so far this season.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot be that guy. Don't be that guy. And
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  Speaker 3: he is that guy. And it's embarrassing. He's an embarrassment.
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  Speaker 3: How about that?
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  Speaker 1: Overall, if you're this Patriots team, I don't think there's
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  Speaker 1: any shame in the Patriots losing to the Bears on
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  Speaker 1: a short week.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: In Chicago?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in Chicago, the Mike Ditka game. I think the Bears-Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: those are both.
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  Speaker 4: How long ago did Ditka pass away?
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  Speaker 1: It was the first home game.
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  Speaker 4: I think three weeks ago Ditka passed away. Okay, the
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  Speaker 4: Ditka game. Rest in peace, coach.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the Patriots and the Bears, those are
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  Speaker 1: both two good, two potentially great teams. And when you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at the bears, like if you're starting an NFL
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  Speaker 1: franchise today and you could pick any quarterback head coach combination,
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: people are racing to turn in that card to get
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  Speaker 1: the Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson duo. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: it's funny today that the narrative is that Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 1: outdueled Drake may last night, but the only reason we're
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  Speaker 1: not spending today killing Caleb Williams for that inexcusable decision
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  Speaker 1: to take that sack on third down is because Cairo
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  Speaker 1: Santos is bailed him out with a career-long 58-yard field goal.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. Santos is not bailing anyone out.
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is bailing out the entire organization.
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  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Santos very clearly got him out.
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  Speaker 3: The only reason that game was that close was because
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  Speaker 3: the defense was not hustling that last play in the
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  Speaker 3: first half.
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise, the game's not even that close.
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  Speaker 1: If Caleb Williams takes that sack on third down.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And Santos gets up there and misses the 58-yard field goal,
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  Speaker 1: or say Ben Johnson decides to punt instead, and Caleb
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  Speaker 1: Williams took points off the board, similar to what Drake
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  Speaker 1: May did in the first half, throwing a red zone interception. Sue,
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: the narrative today is people crushing Caleb Williams, similar to
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  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels a couple of weeks ago, where he made
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  Speaker 1: the mistake a quarterback can't make in these situations. Right.
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  Speaker 2: There are moments where a quarterback has an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: make an absolutely incredible mistake, something that is simply unforgivable.
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  Speaker 2: And the only good thing that happened for Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 2: yesterday with that mistake is it didn't cost them the game,
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  Speaker 2: like you were saying with Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels was
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  Speaker 2: put in a position to make an unforgivable mistake, and
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  Speaker 2: it cost them the win. Caleb Williams, Cairo Santos absolutely
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  Speaker 2: bailed him out.
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  Speaker 4: Put that aside. Is it Cairo Santos? Yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 4: Put it on the poll.
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  Speaker 3: Did Cairo Santos bail out Caleb Williams? Despite all of that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. He was bailed out last night. 22 of 33, 306,
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  Speaker 3: two touchdowns, no interceptions. He makes plays that few quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: can make. Josh Allen comes to mind. Mahomes comes to mind.
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  Speaker 3: He's in that category for me. Are you guys coming
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  Speaker 3: around on Caleb Williams? being the greatest quarterback we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think I'm, I'm not there yet with,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of Caleb Williams, the greatest quarterback you've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: But Caleb Williams' arm talent is definitely special. Like when
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  Speaker 1: he's back there buying himself time, normally like when a
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  Speaker 1: play is like two, three seconds, you're almost thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this play has got to be dead. Caleb Williams' ability
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  Speaker 1: to like keep a play going and then fire off
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  Speaker 1: a laser, like some of those passes to Roma Dunze
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  Speaker 1: were incredible where Caleb Williams had eight 20-plus yard completions
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  Speaker 1: against the Patriots. It's tied for the most by a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in a game this season. I am with you
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  Speaker 1: in saying that Caleb Williams could be a generational quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not there yet in saying he could be the
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  Speaker 1: greatest quarterback we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: He's in year three. Year one didn't go great. And
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  Speaker 2: in year two, he got possibly, and I think even
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  Speaker 2: you would agree, one of the greatest offensive minds to
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  Speaker 2: lead him. I just think it's a little early to start.
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  Speaker 2: He is physically gifted. There's no denying it. I just,
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  Speaker 2: I need to see a lot more before I'm even
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  Speaker 2: considering your.
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  Speaker 1: Stu, the question I have for you.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't finish.
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  Speaker 2: Your moniker.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Your moniker.
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  Speaker 1: Stu, the question I have for you, Belichick and Brady
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  Speaker 1: won six Super Bowls together in New England.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If I set the over-under at five and a half,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams... Under.
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  Speaker 3: Because you have to get to six to be considered
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  Speaker 3: the greatest quarterback of all time.
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  Speaker 4: Those are my rules.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback coach.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback coach. Because I think you can make the argument
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  Speaker 1: for Ben Johnson just as easily as you can make
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  Speaker 1: the argument for Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but you guys keep falling for the coach thing.
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  Speaker 3: And the second that Brady left Belichick, he won a
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl for Bruce Arians.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the reverse of this is like, look at
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  Speaker 1: what Caleb Williams was before Ben Johnson got to Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: He was still going to be pretty good. I mean, guys,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of who Caleb was, it's different with Brady. He
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  Speaker 3: was a fifth or a sixth round pick. Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to be this. There's a reason he was
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  Speaker 3: drafted number one overall. Like, he was going to make
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  Speaker 3: some coach look good, and it just so happens that
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  Speaker 3: it's Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson, Jared Goff was good under
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  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: Meaning, like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Jared Goff is good.
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  Speaker 4: What's that?
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  Speaker 2: Jared Goff is good. Let's not throw shade at Jared Goff.
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  Speaker 1: I get what he's saying.
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  Speaker 4: No, but Jared Goff is still good, even without Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: You guys are assuming that Caleb Williams is only this
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  Speaker 3: good because of Ben Johnson, and to me, that is absurd.
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  Speaker 1: No, nobody's saying that Caleb Williams is only this because
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  Speaker 1: of Ben Johnson, but a lot of being a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL is situationally. like if if caleb williams
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: gets drafted to chicago when matt naggy's the head coach
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  Speaker 1: caleb williams isn't isn't what we're seeing today i.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know some guys can overcome just about anything i
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  Speaker 3: mean some guys are just that good at playing football
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  Speaker 3: and playing that position they can overcome anything.
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  Speaker 2: Who who is that good who's been that good josh
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  Speaker 2: allen And he has how many Super Bowls?
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  Speaker 4: He has none, but he's pretty good. How many appearances?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not denying he's good, but we're asking over under
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  Speaker 2: five and a half Super Bowls. You've got Josh Allen
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  Speaker 2: as the only guy that you're putting in that name,
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  Speaker 2: and he hasn't even sniffed a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but you're giving Ben Johnson some sort of ability
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  Speaker 3: that I don't think that he possesses. Ben Johnson, if
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: he was so good at doing this, he would have
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  Speaker 3: gone to any team and made any offense and any
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  Speaker 3: quarterback look as good as the Bears and Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 1: He could have went to any team, but I think
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  Speaker 1: part of.
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  Speaker 4: That— No, but he waited for Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: He went to Chicago because he had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: work with Caleb Williams. If you have two options and
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: one quarterback is significantly better than the other, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to pick the Caleb Williams option.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but who chose who? Why do you think Ben
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  Speaker 3: Johnson chose Caleb Williams? Caleb Williams didn't choose Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's denying Caleb Williams' talent. Nobody's denying Caleb Williams' raw talent.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody's denying raw talent.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like you guys want to assign it to
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson. You do, yes.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a certain level of coaching to unlock somebody's
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  Speaker 1: full potential.
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  Speaker 4: Does it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Give me the quarterback, the best quarterback with a bad
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  Speaker 3: coach to win a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Tom Brady, Bruce Arians. Who else?
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying some quarterbacks are so special, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: They'll make the situation. They walk into a great situation,
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  Speaker 3: despite who the coach is, despite any of it.
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson, okay? If Ben Johnson went to, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: the Jets, Mikey.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think he'd be that successful?
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  Speaker 2: Do I think Ben Johnson would be that successful? No.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't be that successful because he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback like Caleb Williams. I think we're arguing the same.
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  Speaker 4: Thing, essentially. Put it on the poll and we're arguing
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  Speaker 4: the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to figure out who's the reason for who
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  Speaker 3: being great, and I'm telling you, the reason Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 3: has been so great at this job is because of
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, not the other way around.
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  Speaker 1: I think a great coach needs a great quarterback, and
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  Speaker 1: a great quarterback needs a great coach.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Again, so Jalen Hurts is a good example.
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  Speaker 1: That might not be a great coach or a great quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: All right, but we're doing it just by Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 3: You agree Joe Burrow is a great quarterback. He just
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a great coach, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo just said he's a bad coach.
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  Speaker 4: I heard him in the background. Just firing off Salvos.
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  Speaker 4: He's a bad coach. McCarthy is a bad coach.
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  Speaker 3: And Aaron Rodgers was good enough to overcome how bad
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  Speaker 3: of a coach he was. I will give you that
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  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson is a great coach. If I had to
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  Speaker 3: choose one head coach today, it'd be him or Kyle Shanahan.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: But I am telling you that Caleb Williams is what,
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  Speaker 3: like Kyle Shanahan to me doing it with Brock Purdy.
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson do it with Brock Purdy. How about that?
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  Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. Is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: He did it with Case Keenum for a week.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's pretty comparable. Yeah, he did.
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  Speaker 3: If you hear frustration in my voice, you guys just
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  Speaker 3: simply won't give me How great Kayla Williams is.
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  Speaker 4: You're basing it on Super Bowl. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You're just you're you're just so far down the road. No,
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  Speaker 2: but I in your in your in your moniker that
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I can't even come close to that yet.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just hate when we say this guy is
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: great because he landed with this coach. No, he would
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  Speaker 3: have been great regardless. That's all I'm saying, Mikey.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll concede something to you. The Drake May, Caleb
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  Speaker 1: Williams debate. I think these two quarterbacks, because of where
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: they were drafted, they're going to be compared their entire careers.
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  Speaker 1: Both of them look like they're franchise quarterbacks at this
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  Speaker 1: point through their third year now where Drake May makes
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  Speaker 1: it to a Super Bowl. caleb williams and the bears
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  Speaker 1: look like a legit super bowl threat this year i
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: will concede that right now i'm taking caleb williams 10
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  Speaker 1: out of 10 times because drake may's red zone interception
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  Speaker 1: last night it wound up being the difference in the
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  Speaker 1: game where the margin between playoff teams is razor thin
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  Speaker 1: and when you have a turnover like that it completely
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  Speaker 1: swings the game it's a it looked like he predetermined
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: where he was going with the ball, like pre-snap, or
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: he might've just not seen the linebacker, but that's now
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: three interceptions in the end zone this season for Drake May.
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  Speaker 1: No other quarterback has even two interceptions in the reds
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  Speaker 1: are in the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Ben Johnson, he inherited Jared golf. Um, he did
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: a good job with Jared golf, but I'll remind you,
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  Speaker 3: I think this is what I'm doing here. It's the
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  Speaker 3: We assign all these traits to some of these coaches.
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  Speaker 3: It's Kevin O'Connell, the quarterback whisperer, even though he hasn't
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: gotten a single decision right as the head coach of
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: the Vikings as it pertains to the quarterback spot, that
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: the coach makes the quarterback great, not.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: The other way around.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I think that's my biggest argument. All right, coming up next,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: we will do top five games headed into a big
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: NFL weekend, a so-so college football weekend. I'm not certain
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: any college football game will be in my top five,
• 15:36
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• 16:51
  Speaker 3: We'll get to the top five games of the weekend
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: coming up. Mikey has college. Taylor has NFL. I'm not
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: certain if I have a top five games or not.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: The college slate is not that impressive to me. Field
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Yates will join us on God Bless Football and hopefully
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: settle our debate over Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Somebody has to.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not certain.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know how long we've been doing this. It's
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: been over a year now. I don't think we've ever
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: had an argument. And it took Caleb Williams and Ben
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Johnson for us to argue for the first time, I think,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: in show history.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Is that right, Taylor?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And what it felt like is we were all arguing
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: the same points, but nobody wanted to get off their point.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: My point is Caleb Williams is more important to the
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: equation than Ben Johnson.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, then we're not arguing the same thing because I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: flat out disagree with that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely disagreeing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: All right, we agree to disagree? Is that fair? All right,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: let's get to the top five games.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Move on.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: You guys think either the Bears or Patriots are going
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl?
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Just out of curiosity.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I think the Bears are more likely to win the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl than the Patriots.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: The Bears have a better shot.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: It's a bet. I said I'd move away from it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: You didn't.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: You said you were going to.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: You didn't.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Who are we starting with here?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Mikey with the NFL.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: There you go. Taylor, I know you told me in
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: my headset, but I wasn't listening.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Sunday before Saturday.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Wow. All right. Your fifth best game of the week here, Mike.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: My fifth best game of the week. San Francisco going
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: to Atlanta. Atlanta has shown flashes where they could really
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: be a team that can contend. San Francisco is undefeated.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Trip across the country. Let's see.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: All right. Let's see.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: We're going to find out together if they can make
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that trip across the country and beat Atlanta at home. Taylor,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: number five for you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: My number five college game of the week, LSU making
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the trip to Auburn. I want to see what Auburn
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: does after their big upset win at Georgia. And then,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of course, this LSU team. They might not be the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: best team. Before the season and after week one, we
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: were kind of crowning them as college football's champions already,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and that has definitely been some cold water thrown on it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I like LSU in this spot because it's one of
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: those spots for Lane Kiffin where he can say, hey,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I beat the team that Alabama didn't.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but weird things happen at Jordan Harris Stadium.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I'm aware.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Did it get moved to Provo?
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a hair. Look at his face. He just
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: drank sour milk. Anyway, you were saying, Mike, sorry.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: My number four game in the NFL. Ah, there it is.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: So good.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Two teams that have surprised everyone to this point, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: for different reasons. The Rams are headed to the Raiders.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: The Rams are two and four. The Raiders are three
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and three. Somebody is going to be probably putting themselves
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: out of it this week, and I'm curious to see
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: which one it's going to be. Yep. We're not going
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to get the Devontae Adams revenge game. We thought we
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: would because he's on the IR with a major hamstring injury,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I believe. But, yeah, let's see.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: All right. We'll see. Let's see.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I like that as you're closing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Let's see. What else are we going to do?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Let's watch.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Watch. Number four for Taylor, college game of the week.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: My number four college game of the week, Syracuse going
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: on the road to North Carolina. Some people are saying
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the North Carolina Tar Heels are the hottest team in
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the country right now, 730 slate. Who's saying that? That's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a primetime slot.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Besides you, who is saying that? I'm with Mikey.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Listen, if Carolina wins this game, This is a look-ahead
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: spot because Carolina plays Miami next week on Halloween.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: But if Carolina can get through this game against Syracuse
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and the Orange, maybe College Game Day makes that trip
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to Chapel Hill.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I've been telling you that Syracuse stinks, by the way.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Carolina's going to be fine. But no one is saying that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: No one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Belichick's not even thinking it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That they're one of the hottest teams in the country?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Georgia lost last week.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Texas lost last week.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame lost last week. Miami didn't. But some teams won.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't say they were the hottest team in the country.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I said they're one of the hottest teams in the country.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: No, I thought they were saying it, not you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, correct.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: All right, Mikey, let's go back to the NFL here.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Sunday before Saturday. Back to the NFL.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: The two bottom teams in the AFC North are facing off.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: The four and two Ravens are headed to the three
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and two Cincinnati Bengals.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: What a game.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It's AFC North football. I mean, Joe Burrow versus it
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: sounds like Lamar Jackson is going to play at this point.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: He did get some limited reps. I'm hoping for one
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of those barn burner games, but let's see.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: All right. Let's see. It's amazing.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: The Ravens 4-2, the Bengals 3-2, and they're in third
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and fourth place in their division.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, in a division that has the Browns and
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: the Steelers.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy and Deshaun Watson. What a weird division. Let's see.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Let's go back to college, back to Saturday.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Taylor, your third best college football game of the week,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and what a lousy slate we have when Carolina Syracuse.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Is number four.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Disrespectful.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Right. To who?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Carolina, hottest team. One of the hottest teams in college football.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Some would say.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: That's what they're saying.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Some would say, yes. My number three game of the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: college football slate this weekend, Houston traveling to Utah. It's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the only top 15 matchup of the weekend.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Huge Big 12 implications in this one. I'm not sure
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: either team, though, is good.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Fair.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: See, I thought you were going to say that about
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the last game.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: No, I know Carolina's good. I know Syracuse is bad.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I know Carolina's good.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Hottest team in the country, yes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Houston or Utah are good, though.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Championship good. You know they're good, like perhaps playoff good.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You just don't know if they can win a championship.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Big 12 gets so muddy. The only team
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I feel confident right now in the Big 12 is
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: BYU after that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I guess Texas Tech, too.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: All right. Yeah, Tech's good.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Tech is good. All right, let's go back to Sunday here. Sunday.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: We just did the two bottom teams in the AFC North.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Let's watch the two bottom teams in the NFC North.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers head to the Detroit Lions. Packers
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: at four and two. Lions at three and two. Josh
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Jacobs returns this week. Is that going to be the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: difference in Mike LeFleur's offense now that they might have
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: somewhat of a running game? Let's see. Let's see.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Please finish every sentence like that for the remainder of time.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Plant it. Plant it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Back to Saturday, please. Let's get to Taylor's. Third best,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: where are we?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Number two.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Number two. Second best college football game of the week.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: My second best college football game of the week. Indiana
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: traveling to Michigan, traveling to the big house. This is
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a major road test for Indiana where– Michigan has a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: big chance this week to derail Indiana's season and kind
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of knock some of that shine off Kirk Cignetti. They
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: turned to Tommy Carr last week. They might have found something.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Some people are calling him Tommy Heisman in Ann Arbor.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: No one is calling him Tommy Heisman in Ann Arbor.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Not a single person.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I think I saw Dave Portnoy calling him Tommy Heisman.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That was about it. I think Adam Schefter might have
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: said it too.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Also went to Michigan. All right, Mikey. Back to the NFL.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Your best game of the NFL weekend.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Easily the best game of the weekend. College, NFL, whatever.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Kansas City heading to the defending champions, the Seattle Seahawks.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It's getting late a little bit early for Seattle. They're 3-3. Obviously,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs are undefeated at 5-0. As Taylor so aptly
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: pointed out the other day, this is the Kenneth Walker
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: revenge game or the we didn't really need you game
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: for Seattle. I don't know. Zach Charbonnet is supposed to
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: be back, but is Kansas City going to get his
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: first loss? Let's see.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: If Kenneth Walker, if the Chiefs win, it is a
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: revenge game.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: If the Seahawks win, it's we didn't need you.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a lot at stake. There really is.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: The label. The label is at stake.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, but as we like to see, as we like
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: to say, excuse me, let's see.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Dumb.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Not you. Just sports radio.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: No, that too. That too.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: You're not dumb.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Let's go back to college for Taylor's best college football
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: game of the weekend.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: The number one game of the weekend, Ole Miss at Texas.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Love it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Two SEC programs.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It feels like Texas' season has slid out of their control,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: but if they beat Ole Miss and get a top
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: ten win here, all of a sudden that train's back
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: on track. Trinidad Chambliss, I think people are kind of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: forgetting that Trinidad Chambliss is probably the best player in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: college football, so anytime– He's taking the field. I'm going
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to be watching that game. And this is a chance for–
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I think this is a chance for Texas to change
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the narrative around their season, but this is also Ole Miss'
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: chance to say, we're in the national title picture, everybody.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you guys think Lane Kiffin has reached out
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: to Arch yet? Back-channeled, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Do you think Mississippi– Trinidad, he graduates after this year, right?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have Deuce Knight. So Deuce Knight came
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in from Auburn last year.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: But if Eli walks into the AD's office and says,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you know, my nephew's available, go get him, don't you
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: think Mississippi would give that some consideration?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You think they'd say deuces to Deuce?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Deuces.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: We will not find a better ending than that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: We did!