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Pastor Vince Hayne and his jounrey from the game to church · Building 341

• DJ Rubbaban: Building 341, y'all. Building 341, DJ Rubbaban. Caddey B, we here. We doing it, y'all. We just want to give y'all a little taste of the intro, outro. We want to say a little things in the middle of our interviews. This next interview coming up is with Pastor Vince Haynie. He talks about his story. And the thing about Building 341, we always try to incorporate music to our stories and what's going on. The now, the later, whatever. Thank you guys for listening to Building 341 and our special guest of the day. That was wild, Caddey. Caddey, Caddey. CaddeyB: That was a wild ride. That was one for the books for sure. was just. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, So ⁓ hopefully you watch one and part two, because both of them are real special. ⁓ And just take your and listen, make some notes. You might even want to go to his church on Sundays, you know. So what you think about part one? We're It's going to be a two to three part and it's going to be a lot to take in. It's a lot. Part one is a good intro on how we doing and how we building it. It's building. We're building build 341. So we're here. But it's so crazy, the interview, because his went down. His internet went down. CaddeyB: Listen to some music. Keep tuning into the podcast. Hopefully there's all kinds of inspiration there. DJ Rubbaban: You know, you know, we out y'all. Peace. CaddeyB: of. DJ Rubbaban: But the sound part was still in there, but it was so federal, was so much, he was lacing the game so much, we just left it like it was, because you gotta hear it, y'all. Shout out to V Love. Shout out to V Love and his crimeys, you know, and his crimeys, you know. Shout out to V Love. So we got a part one, a part two, and maybe a part three. You know, we ain't trying to get shut down before we, know, till we all over the internet, all over the world, but definitely check that out. Like subscribe follow us on all platforms everything building 341. Holla at us. We won't comments, you know questions people you even want to see us interview like people you want to see us interview like we got Man, we got some sweet. I don't want to be interviewed. Let us know if you interview worthy You know, I mean some people get on here and get like a fish and just just you know, don't know what to say And you know what? One of the things I want to say to caddy me and you talk about this all the time Because we edit a lot of our videos, we edit stuff that we're not trying to sensationalize stuff. So we go, go, man, why you put that in there? We probably would get more likes and clicks, but we're really not trying to have that energy. We want you to tell your story, we don't want the, you can be Killa Tay, but we don't want to know. We don't want it to be recent. You know what I mean? We want it, and then a story behind it. A story, like what you was listening to when that was happening. welcome to 341 with DJ Rubbaban ⁓ and my boy, Caddey B. We doing y'all, we doing it. We got a special guest. ⁓ We doing this podcast thing ⁓ and just introducing the world to people, different conversations, but it ⁓ all is ingrained in music. start, the is music. It's Building 341, it's music. CaddeyB: Caddey B. DJ Rubbaban: we got a special guest, pastor Vince Haynie ⁓ we call him, V love. We call him Prince V Prince Vince. ⁓ we want to tell, we want him to tell his story. We want to know everything. And we go kind of me and caddy are going to kind of taper events back and give layers of it. Cause what I really, what I really want is the beginning, the origin story. Like we did an interview and I heard Scarface music in my head when this guy was telling his story. Most definitely. Then I heard somebody else we interviewed and I heard funk songs and this and that. And sometimes me and him just chopping it up talking. Like one of the interviews, go look at our site and look at one of our interviews. We just chopping it up and we talking about karma and how karma affects so many of us. Like people think you can't do a whole bunch of stuff and then don't think it ain't gonna come back on you. Vince Haynie: Thank you. DJ Rubbaban: and How were you in Chicago? What kind of music did you listen to? What kind of music did you listen to in them tapered pants and them little suits you used to wear back in the I heard you used to be like a little Mac daddy going to school, you know, know, karma is a real thing to me. feel like it is. And so we talk about that sometimes in our stories, like, and, you know. You never know what's gonna happen. Definitely. That's how the show is too. And I'm representing from the right, he representing from the left, you know, in that back pocket, if you know what I'm talking about. Builder 341, y'all. Check us out. Love. Give me your origin story ⁓ of migrating, being in Chicago. What kind person... Vince Haynie: That's why I'm going because Magic Juan I grew up around Magic Juan in them. I don't know you know Magic wine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay, well, that's what I'm talking about. My junior, he's kind of short. Yeah, he my height. Anyway, I believe he my height. Every time I saw him, every time I basically saw him, he was probably driving in his car or at the beauty shop. That's what we call it where the pimps get their hair, wave, they get their hair done. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, so you did grow up around him. Yeah, I knew, I met him a couple times. He kind of sure too. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, he is kind of about, yeah, yeah. Vince Haynie: Well anyway, no, no, this is natural. My mom's dad was white, so I probably never did that. And a little more reason for that. A little more. Yeah, look, look at that. That's natural. That's natural, That ain't no juice, man. Ain't no juice on that, man. DJ Rubbaban: Is that where you get your good hair from? Cause you know on the streets we used to say you had good hair. ⁓ okay. So you ain't still getting Jerry Curls? You still getting Jerry Curls. You still getting Jerry Curls. Look, Tyree ain't got, why Tyree ain't got that hair? Vince Haynie: He don't let it grow out. he put Murray's in it, put Murray's in it and brush it, boom, boom, boom, it'll come back. But anyway, I grew up, my junior high school in Chicago. Actually, I'm from Chicago, born in Pinewood, Arkansas, 1963. I think my parents in those sixties migrated to Chicago like a lot of country folk from the South. They migrated to the North for a better life. I believe like in 65, 66, my parents did the same. So. DJ Rubbaban: Right? Vince Haynie: All I can remember is Chicago from preschool until I'm saying to present day preschool. We were you like I say I'm fast forward into junior high junior high. My school setting that door to the shop, the beauty shop wall. The pimps would get their hair done. So that was a lot of my influence. The West side. DJ Rubbaban: How is Chicago like? Like give us a little bit about, we know the trap music. Okay, give me some music in that too. This is music. Vince Haynie: Okay, man, I can take you back, man. I can take you back to, ⁓ what's that? The OJs. I love music. Any kind of music. Long as it's groovy. So that's, I grew up on the 70s music. ⁓ yeah, most... DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Okay. CaddeyB: What was playing in the salon? DJ Rubbaban: Yeah! Vince Haynie: Well, you know, it's just on the streets because in Chicago you can walk down the streets on Madison with Magic wand and everybody that was like the little Garmin district all the stores and the stores the festive the record stores They would have speakers outside of their doors playing the music. I guess that's how they market they market it And back in our day, it was just radio and degree in Chicago. We had done We have a parliament DJ Rubbaban: Right Right? Give us some more artists, give us some more artists. Vince Haynie: Obviously the Jackson 5, yeah, Parliament, the Funkadelic, Boosie, all those cats, Cameo, Curtis Blow, man, the list, ⁓ what's the name of, Barkley? ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Right. Now, did gravitate more towards funk or slow songs or just... Vince Haynie: You know what, I was all over the, I'm gonna say I was all over the radio dial, because I wasn't fortunate enough to go buy music and my parents gave me a couple of dollars, I'll buy a 45. Probably couldn't afford the whole album. I'm gonna get that 45 though. everybody house, everybody black house, parents they had a record player. So I'm gonna get that 45 with my favorite song. And that was a rare. But my father, he was a blues cat. So he had eight tracks with blues on it. DJ Rubbaban: Right. They have 45. Vince Haynie: But also in Chicago in the 70s, you really didn't have to go buy music or you just listen to the radio station. So I would go between four and five radio stations from the R &B stations and I'll go over there to the classic rock. the Billy Joe, those cats. They had to get to the two. know, all them cats. So, and again, here's the deal. In my neighborhood in Chicago, they were accepted. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Okay. Right. Benny and the Jets, all that. Vince Haynie: Heatwave was a white group out of Europe. were the average white band. I grew up with AWB, baby, the average white band. They was an average white band, but they had a lot of souls. So that's what we got, Schoolboy Crush, know. Cut the cake, know. Cut the cake, you know. DJ Rubbaban: Right, ⁓ yeah, yeah. Right? Right. Yeah, cut the cake, cut the cake. You know your boy, you know your boy Rakim use that. Yeah, see, ⁓ see. Vince Haynie: That was a schoolboy crush right there. That's a schoolboy crush. I grew up, I had lot of influence from classic, classic rock, which is basically music. like when I turned to those stations, Dan Fogelberg. Like I say, so it was a variety just growing up in Chicago on the radio dials. Cause you could do that. Everybody's parent had a component set in the house with the AM and FM. You can switch it to AM. You you ain't gonna get no quality. DJ Rubbaban: Yup. Right. Right. You showing your old school, you said component. That fool said component. Vince Haynie: Components that don't they got it. That's they component set. Don't be mama's component Yeah, but you can go to a &F and I would just hit the dial so you know I love music so I'll go to a ⁓ F and mostly I like FM go the quality was better CaddeyB: I was just saying components. DJ Rubbaban: when you first started liking girls and little girlfriends in Chicago, no music, no first music, know, popcorn, love, like what was you feeling? Vince Haynie: ⁓ man, hold on, hold on, I'm way before Pop Born Love. I'm me and Mrs. Got a thing going on. That was probably 1973. And I'm in the third grade. And Shirley Jones was in my class. ⁓ Shirley Jones, man. I still think about Shirley Jones. We had to be about eight, nine years old. yeah, there was some songs back then. know, music, I guess music is the soundtrack of our lives. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Right, right. Vince Haynie: you can play a song, it'll take me back to that era, to that year. I go back to that year, brother, it's the early 70s, mid 70s, early 80s, mid 80s, 90s, mid 90s, up until, I don't know what they're doing now, but you know, some of it's still cool. But you know, but I kind of fell off. DJ Rubbaban: Right. And we gonna touch on them different generations. So now, did you guys leave Chicago? Vince Haynie: Well, I left Chicago 19, the summer of 1981. Yeah, ⁓ should have been a senior in high school and it was almost a tragic event. You know, I pulled a gun on a ⁓ gang member, black gangsta disciple. And the rules on the streets, if you pull it, you gotta use it. And ⁓ heard a voice that said, you know, put the gun away and go. CaddeyB: and why. DJ Rubbaban: oooo Yeah. Vince Haynie: home and call your mother and tell her you ready to come to California. My mom and dad had divorced the year previous. My mom moved out to California. I stayed in Chicago because I'm a BG. That's a black gangster. I ain't going nowhere. I'm 17 years old. I'm in the hood. Now I'm in the trenches. But as I look back, that wasn't God's plan for me because when I pulled the gun, I heard a voice that put the gun away and go home and tell your mama, you ready to come to California? So I listened to that voice. put the gun away as I'm walking about three blocks back to the house. I'm crying like a little baby. I'm just in tears with a 38 in my waist. And I go right to my house, my father's house. I called my mama and told her I'm to come to California. She said, put your dad on the phone. She put him on the phone. I put him on the phone. told her, she told him put me on the bus the next day. The next day. DJ Rubbaban: Man, that sound like a Scarface song. Vince Haynie: I was Greyhoundin' into California. Didn't know I was coming to Kill the Cali, home of the body bag. DJ Rubbaban: Is that when you got the arms? that when you went to Compton? Vince Haynie: Yeah, right. Well, I to South Central first. When I first touched down in LA, Greyhound, my mama picked me up downtown. They lived on 57th and Hoover. Yeah, yeah. So, but I only stayed there probably for three weeks. the people, Roy Ayers, remember Roy Ayers? Yeah, R &B class in the seventies. The people who was renting the house, that was his auntie's house. I remember my mama telling us, Roy Ayers, and I knew who Roy DJ Rubbaban: Hoo! Yeah! Yeah. Vince Haynie: Roy Ayers was, he recently passed. I knew he was, I knew he was, cause they used play him on the radio in Chicago. We used to jam him when the track came on. But anyway, his auntie, the house where he was written in South Central, they owned a lot of real estate in the LA and Compton and surrounding areas. So they took a liking to my mother and my stepfather, my mother's new husband, and they had a bigger, better house in Compton. And they took a liking to him, my... DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah, that jazz, a lot of people sample his songs. Yeah, Yeah. ⁓ Vince Haynie: Their father was doing handyman stuff for them for their properties and they told mother and father they had since we've taken a liking to you we got a better property in Compton a five bedroom three bed four bedroom house that we like to have you to have for 500 a month that's 1981 that's 1981 for 500 now that was a lot of money but we must have been paying 400 in south central so we were up a notch so my mama told me i'm only there two weeks my mama say DJ Rubbaban: Blessings. Whoa. Right. Vince Haynie: We're moving to Compton. I say Compton? What's Compton? This is 1981. She said, ⁓ that's where the wealthy black people live. Everybody drives Cadillacs in Compton. I say, well, home to Compton. Let's roll to Compton then. So that's how we got to Compton. So we lived in the front of the city, with the city of Ohio, front here of 22-some El Segundo. That was our address between Wilmington and Willowbrook in Compton. So I touched down there. When I was in South Central, I hadn't checked in school, but it was only three weeks there. And then I got to Compton, I told my mom, I'm ready to go back to school. I was a senior in high school. She took me down to the nearest high school in Compton, which was the Big Ten. You know that's the thinnest your high. So I checked. DJ Rubbaban: Right. He wants to sit. Now, let me now let me I'm gonna let you finish. But let me let me add some some flavor to that. So a lot of people hear a lot of things about Compton and how it's so bad and this gang infested and this 10 mile radius is 50 gangs. And a lot of that is true. But you have to know that is it was some concentrated wealth and beautiful homes this beautiful parts of Compton. It's parts of Compton where they had horses and ⁓ it was. Vince Haynie: ⁓ yes, ⁓ yes. That was our part. DJ Rubbaban: It was a community. It was a community. And at the time when you was in Compton, was living in Linwood. And Linwood is right next to Compton and technically was supposed to be the better part, but it was all the same. It was just a different level of it. And so ⁓ went to the school, the birth of the Piru Centennial. ⁓ Vince Haynie: if we have horses in our community and nice house. ⁓ yeah, school was in the Bloods neighborhood. DJ Rubbaban: but you stayed in Front Hood, which was a crypt neighborhood. Vince Haynie: I got to go to that high school because that's the district. And at the time, I'm not knowing none of this. ⁓ only ⁓ for probably three and a half weeks. ⁓ was in junior high and elementary still. ⁓ was 17 years old when I touched down to Compton. Again, asked my mama because she hadn't finished high school. She probably didn't care. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right, right. And you know, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Now how many of your sisters are there? ⁓ they were still, okay, okay. Vince Haynie: if I continue my education or not, she would let me just hang around the house. I told my mom, hey mom, my eyes, it's a new beginning, a new chapter of my life. Remember I almost shot a cat in my own game. So I know I had $5,000. Bye. ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: But I hear it, I hear in your voice Vince, I hear it in your voice and your testimony. It's been times where you wanted to do better and you did better and you still did some crazy stuff. And my time for me and Katty knowing you, you've done good things, but you've done some stupid stuff, but you've overcame it. I won't say stupid, but. Vince Haynie: I would say we all made some poor decisions. That's stupid stuff. That's AKA stupid stuff. And again, I had, here's just something about me and I always reflect on my life. I think that's a good thing for us to do. When I was growing up in Chicago, I used to have visions of me living in California. I just knew I would live in California. I didn't know how I was gonna get here. When my mom moved here, DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah. CaddeyB: ⁓ yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Okay. Right. Vince Haynie: I was asking her, why you move to California? She said, well, we got cousins there. Well, you never told me that growing up. I didn't know we had cousins there until you and my father got a divorce and you said you going to Cali. By that time, I'm ingrained in the hood. I ain't going nowhere. I'm married to the hood. So when they found, and she asked me, we going to California, you wanna go? No, I'm saying I'm in the hood. You know how I was in the hood. That rubber, I ain't going nowhere. But the incident happened. DJ Rubbaban: RING Why? Why? Bye. Vince Haynie: I heard the voice, they call your mama telling you ready to come to Cali. So I looked back, no wonder I had those images of me living in California where I just am I know, or I knew I was going to live there. I didn't know how I was going to get orchestrated. It got orchestrated with me doing one of these moves. So that's why I'm here. And me and my wife still talk today, we still here and we believe we in purpose because we in ministry, because I didn't career path myself for this either. So at one point. DJ Rubbaban: Right? Right. Right. Right, okay, now hold it, okay, now hold it. People gonna say, Rubbaban, why you stop him? But we gonna have you keep going. So we started in Chicago. We started that they had speakers outside the record shops it was all kind of Philadelphia sound, Motown, everything was playing. ⁓ And then you hit us with a few jewels of who was around and ⁓ Magic Don. And so now you're in Compton and you're going to Centennial. Are you getting along with the people? CaddeyB: You Vince Haynie: ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah. CaddeyB: How does the music change? How did the music change when you got here? DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, like is it? Vince Haynie: You know what, you know what, here's what I found out. There wasn't no music change. Music was universal. And again, we're all tribal. And I found out Digital Underground had it all around the world, the same song. So they were on the dial too. Like I was on the dial. They probably in California, I'm speaking for myself, I was all over the dial in Chicago. I was in the White Hood. I was in the R Hood with Dan Fogelberg and all them cast air supply owner. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Right? Exactly, exactly. Vince Haynie: I don't know if my homeboys was listening to that when I was but I know we was all listening to Mick Jagger I've been waiting all along that played on the R &B station He played some some some white acts was on on the R &B station. They made that crossover But I would feel I don't know about my homeboys. I was all over the Dow because I just love music DJ Rubbaban: Why? Look at you. Right. But in 81, the transition was starting to happen with drugs being flooded into the ghettos. No, I'm not saying 81, but after 81, 82, 83, the drugs, it's just a ⁓ floodgate of drugs. it just places like Compton, Lehanwood, Inglewood, South Central more aggressive. Vince Haynie: No, no, no, 81 now. Now I'm a senior in high I'm going say this, you're going say drugs. We always thought we'd see this day growing up in Chicago as teenagers. I started off high school in Chicago. I sold weed in high school, ninth, tenth, eleventh grade. We all sold weed. We all would buy, roll up 100 joints and take them to school with us every morning. So selling drugs in the neighborhoods I came from, that was a common thing. We didn't even see where it was made. Why? DJ Rubbaban: Right, but a certain kind of drugs, because they had pills and different kinds of drugs in the hood. Vince Haynie: Yeah, we had fields they had serfs. So to me that really it was illegal but to us it was normal. So when I get to California same M.O. when I get to Centennial that's how I was cool with the Bloods in the Crips. I saw a weed. I had joints still same Chicago mentality. It was there in LA. It was just a different goals. And that's what I'm saying. We're all tribal and communal. It was the same thing same song. I was just in a whole different environment. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Riiiight. Vince Haynie: Now these guys got Jerry curls. I'm still like this. They got I have a teeny I have a TWA a teeny weeny afro. They had Jerry curls khakis and a t-shirt and some vans on when I come to California. That's why they knew I was different. I had a collared shirt a silk collared shirt with slacks on and some stacies or some shoes. No, I haven't heard Jerry a further. had a teeny weeny afro. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Yeah. Ride. Yup. and a Jerry curl. Right, right. Vince Haynie: Chicago wasn't doing the Jerry Curls then. I think Jerry Curls, even in 81, they weren't, Jerry Curls didn't really come out to like 85, 86. They had khakis and a t-shirt on. That's what I saw with the LA Cats, the Company Cats. It was about t-shirts and khakis and shoes. I'm like with slacks and a dress shirt, because I grew up around Magic One and them. When I was a night school in Chicago, we wore three-piece suits to school. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Yeah, yeah, it did really, yeah, cause nobody had no money yet really either. Yeah. Right. Vince Haynie: Just like the York, just like the boy Dana Dane and Slick Ricky now. That was hard for us. That's how we roll. So I brought that to California. They looking at me like, this guy? He can't be from here. So I got to work on that. DJ Rubbaban: Damn. Right, right? So was you pulling, so was you pulling, was you pulling all they women? Vince Haynie: Well, you know what I did? I held my own. That was different, too. I grew up in Chicago. I knew it was all right. DJ Rubbaban: You know what they say about Chicago. You know what they say. Vince Haynie: It was all black people in my community. When I got to California, that was a difference. When I got to California, specifically in confidence, now it's blacks and Mexicans. In my community in Chicago, it was just all black. Even the teachers were black or white. When I get to LA, the teachers was mostly black and the students was black and Mexican. So yeah, I'm looking at the Mexican girls, cause I'm like, Espanol, but they spoke English too, but they was looking good. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then it has some more ones too. It was some more ones. Not where you was, wasn't some more. Okay, now look. Vince Haynie: Not where I was it was just making it up. So that was the difference for me. But the music back to the music the music was still what it was because the R &B said what we had. We still had R &B because you had K-Date. DJ Rubbaban: But rap was coming, rap was there, rap was coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. you, I mean, but you had rap, but it was, you had the, the tidy teas. had the, you know, you had uncle jams on, you had a lot of, back then they did parties. You know, they would have parties at the Coliseum, different things like that. Vince Haynie: I wasn't privileged to all that because you got to remember, I only stayed there my senior year. I graduated in 82. So after 82, I'm up in Susanville now. I'm missing everything else in California. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Now, when you get to Susanville, this is where I kind of knew of your story when I met you later. So in Susanville, you were working and then you were doing firefighting, right? Vince Haynie: But I went there as a student, was in college. I went there as a student. So now I'm out of LA. I'm only going back on holidays. I'm I'm a long way from Chicago. And here's another thing. I'm a long way from R &B and hip hop music, but somehow through the homies in New York and homies in LA, it got there. Cause remember we got cassettes now and they going home on the weekend. then all of a sudden MTV hit the scene. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Yup. Bringing home the cassettes. Vince Haynie: which when they first hit the scene, they weren't doing no rap in R &B. Initially, they wasn't. Until Michael Jackson's Thriller topped the charts and they had to bow down. But that's how we was getting our music MTV up there. Because there wasn't no radio station, but there wasn't no R &B or hip hop station in Seussville in 1982. We had a station called one station called KSU. K-S-U-E. And it was a black DJ with... DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Vince Haynie: You know, they had a format. He had to stick to the script. He can come in there like DJ Rubbaban did in 341. I know where you got that 341 at. Come on, boy. That's the feeling, man. Come on. You know, know, Rubbaban brought that hip hop. Let Joe Bush tell it. He brought that hip hop to Chico. Joe Bush ain't gonna never get it. He put you, he said you did that. DJ Rubbaban: There you go. There you go. There you- There you go. There you go. Shout out to Joe Perses. Shout out to Joe Perses, RIP. Yeah, and he said it all serious. You know you brought that hip hop to Vince Haynie: Oh, he said it in a negative connotation. Like it's a bad thing. He brought that hippity-hop here. DJ Rubbaban: That's what I'm saying. But he said it like, now let me, now let's stay like on the music part of it. So when you got to Susanville, do you feel like, cause you always seem like you had a hustler spirit and you always seem like you had a bigger purpose. Like even when I knew you in the trenches, you seem to shine in your own way. Like you had your own, you always, even in Compton, you had your own way of doing things. Vince Haynie: What does well? DJ Rubbaban: You had your own way in Susanville. And then when you blossom off to the place we're to talk about next after Susanville, you're still your own person. Like you're not. Vince Haynie: I'm gonna say this, going to Sussexville was part of the hustle. Cause they told me I had some funds in the form of financial aid and work study. At the time when they called my house, cause I had visited that previous summer and they called, I'm looking in LA times for a job. And I'm calling companies, this is in 81, you can call, ask them if they're hiring. I was doing that for about 10 jobs and I'm waiting on a call back. Well, my phone rang September 82. DJ Rubbaban: Uh-huh. Vince Haynie: and it was last in college asking me, do I want a student there? And I'm telling them, I don't got no money to be a student. And their response was, well, your financial aid came in. I'm like, what's that? They say, well, you got $5,000 for the year to go to school, plus you qualify for college work study. What's that? We're going to give you a J-O-B on the campus. Remember, five minutes earlier, I'm looking for a job, a job called me. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ huh. Okay. Vince Haynie: Like Jay said, I'm a hustler. So, no, no, no, ⁓ I came to college because they had an income for me. I figured, hey, they offered me opportunity to be a student and they put a dollar amount with it. I go wake up my mama who ain't even graduated from my school because she worked in cleaning buildings at night in LA. She don't get home till six in the morning. I go to wake up a black mama and tell her, hey, I got a college on the phone talking about I got money. DJ Rubbaban: So that's when you got into fire camp? Is that when you, not fire camp, but fire science. Okay. Right. Vince Haynie: That was a occupational hazard right there, going to wake up a black mama that worked all night cleaning toilets. So I creep in her room in Compton in Royer's auntie's house that she on. I go into her bedroom, wake her up, say, mama, this college is on the line. And they saying I got money to go to school. First she almost stalled on me. But then I convinced her. The black mama, rubber, I convinced her. DJ Rubbaban: Ride, ride. I already know, I already know. Vince Haynie: Hey, I said this was the real deal. So she woke up, she got the phone, they hollered at her. Next thing I know, she got up and told me, pack my bags. I had that one suitcase that I came from Chicago with. There's only been an LA now for nine months. I did my last year in high school, it wasn't even a whole year. It September to June. What was September to, yeah, September to September. I got my same bag and I had same clothes. So my momma didn't have enough money to buy me no clothes and all that. DJ Rubbaban: Whoa. ⁓ Wow. Wow. ⁓ Bye. Vince Haynie: I practice for my own thing, so I got my suitcase, went to Lassen College, and I ain't went home since. DJ Rubbaban: Now, right now, I'm going CaddeyB: So how long was you in Lassen College and then what brought you this way? Vince Haynie: Well, well, last in college was a two year college. Remember, for me it was a hustle. So I stayed there for three years. I was getting financial aid. They was paying me. And I learned how to fill out my own fastest. They didn't call it that then, but the OGs, they thought, they should have paid more money. You go, get your own apartment, get out this dorm, you get more money. And I said, remember, I'm from Chicago. I got a hustle spirit, period. So I'm only, I'm there for an income. DJ Rubbaban: Right? Okay. Right. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. My generation too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vince Haynie: for livelihood. But at the same time, I'm getting an education. I didn't discount that. I'm getting an education. I know how to learn. I ain't dumb. I know how to read. I know how to do math. They saying they gonna give me some money to continue that education. I ain't got no money in LA. I graduated high school. I ain't got no job. I know my mama don't wanna take care of me. know, the guy orchestrated the phone to ring for an income for a destiny purpose. And I bounced to Susan Mill. She put me on the gray aisle. DJ Rubbaban: Bye. Vince Haynie: where I started at, I went to Susanville. Now I'm going there not knowing I, in the it's a round, big circle of driveway. I felt like the fresh prince of Bel Air getting out the taxi, because I got out of a taxi. ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Now was you still selling weed? Now was you selling weed in Susenville? Vince Haynie: No, no, didn't come back. I left all that back in LA. I'm collegiate. I'm collegiate now, man. I'm the Fresh Prince, man. That's why I'm Fresh Prince. I'm going to school now, man. I'm a student. my mom put me on the bus, traveled 12 hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the legal house. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right, all right now, all right. CaddeyB: So just going for the legal hustle. DJ Rubbaban: Now did you pull your white girl? Cause now you getting to see white people now. Vince Haynie: Well, here's the interesting thing. As as I get out that cab, I get to the bus station in the Two Horse Town. The Two Horse Town, because Sousaville, got two traffic lights. Population 5,000. 25 black people and they students. Probably 50 of us and they students. But population 5,000 in 1982. So, yeah, 82, get ready to go into 83. Two traffic lights in the whole town. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ okay. Whoa, okay, okay. Vince Haynie: So that's why I'm coming. And I look back, it was orchestrated. I was supposed to go there. Cause I need to, I need to exhale. I need to exhale. Cause I came from Chicago. I'm getting some little, I think that, okay, okay, okay. pulling up. I'm telling you what the worst girl I met. I get in the two horse town. I don't know nothing about the town. I'm at the bus station, which is also the cab station. I call the lady in the financial aid office, Kathy Peterson. DJ Rubbaban: show. Give me some, give me some meat potatoes. Tell me when you your first white girl and you heard something, Hispanic something. Yeah Vince Haynie: because she's only contact I have because she got the money. She pulls in the purse screen. She's financial aid. I got her number while I LA. I get to the cab station. I call her. I'm here. I touch down in the Ville. She say, well, where you at? That's the cab station also. They already know the business. Tell them to bring you up to the college, and we'll take care of that cab. I have a little room just like this. It ain't even big. DJ Rubbaban: Mm-hmm. Uh-uh. All blessings, blessings. Vince Haynie: I go and I tell them they say they know the M.O. I'm black obviously I'm there to go to college or they got a prison up there so I'm going to college so takes me up there I get in the circle like I say fresh print circle welcome to barely there I get out the cat taxi the taxi I see this girl it's a black girl fast forward that was my wife's auntie bb lord she was the first one I met now she was saying In her mind, because she was a young tender back then, she was in her 20s. I'm 19, 18, 19, she 23, 24. All she thought, and I can read her mind, she thinking fresh meat. Fresh meat. Yes, you want to take me down. But I found out later that was her MO, fresh meat. in her mind, I'm the first one to make this fresh meat. Look, Reverend, I'm ⁓ 19 old. Thumb is flat, I'm up here, looking good. ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Right, she wanna take you down. Yeah. Look at, yeah, all that, look, all that. Vince Haynie: a cougar, she considered a cougar because she in her 20s, she seen me getting out the cab with a suitcase, like where I'm going and I tell her, hey, you must be a new studs. I said, yeah, I'm looking for Kathy Peterson in the financial aid office. She said, show you exactly where it's at. Follow me. She did an Aerosmith walk this way. I walked that way. ⁓ put the music back in the car. I walked there, I followed her. She took me right to the financial aid office. She gave me her contact. She wanted to follow up. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Look at you, look at music, music, okay? Vince Haynie: She wanted to do a follow-up. I married her niece. Yeah, she's still around. We went to a concert. We went to, who did we go to see? Izy Brothers about a month ago near Yorktown. Yeah, shout out. DJ Rubbaban: Y'all still good people? No, I mean, she's still around? Okay, good. Shout out Auntie. Auntie, how she look now? I might have somebody for how she look now. Vince Haynie: We don't want to go through all that right now. What we doing? You better bring oxygen carriers with you. She sniffing oxygen now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, now I'm in Susanville. I'm doing my college thing in Susanville now. I'm going through the motions, 83, they me this guy, they me to Susanville. CaddeyB: You DJ Rubbaban: Hey, hey, I might know somebody that knows somebody. CaddeyB: So after that, after that, we'll brought you to Chico and Chapman Town. Vince Haynie: summer come, you can get summer work study and I qualified for it. I did that that first summer. But so another OG had been there. He said, man, you can make more money. Cause remember I'm here for the hustle, man. I'm here for, I'm on the money chip. He tell me, man, you can make more money if you apply for a job as a wildland firefighter with California department of forestry right now, Cal fire. I say, cool. What do I sign up? He tells me where to go get the app. I fill it out. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah. Vince Haynie: Because the blessing of the Lord is upon me. Guess what? Them fools hired me as a firefighter. I ain't got no experience. I ain't got no experience. I came from the hood. The concrete jungle in Chicago, D and L.A., they hired me. I'm 21 now. I got to be 21. I'm a wild land firefighter at that time. This is 1984. Cal Fire was the best thing going. They paid me $1,000 a month and you were... DJ Rubbaban: Yeah? Vince Haynie: Four or five days a week, you got two days off. But that was considered a good summer job for a cat at 19 years old. I was about 19. And it would benefit the whole nine. So I get that summer job. But the summer is only for three, four months, and then I got to go back to school. So I did that. And I went to college. I kept re-ing up because it was all about the money. And I stayed an extra year. And I ended up graduating in 85. Now, I get there in 82. I get there in 82, I'm walking the stage at 85. I should have been walking at 85. DJ Rubbaban: Exactly. Yeah. Blessings. but you still graduated, which is important. Vince Haynie: I could have been walking there before, but hey, it was a job. And I wasn't planning on going nowhere. I didn't want to go to Chico State. I was like living in up there. And it goes, I'm acclimated to the city now. And you talking about girls. When I touched down there, besides Keisha's auntie that I saw, I'm seeing island girls, because they was recruited heavily in Micronesia. I'm in my dorm room window. I'm looking out the window. You can see the whole campus from my window. I'm looking at these little olive girls with long black hair. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah! What? Vince Haynie: Bam-bam-boom. I'm like, ⁓ hey, and they say ⁓ don't know Micronesia Michael. ⁓ yeah, they from the Micronesian Island Island. Well, I'm in there in there That was my stuff. I you know, I'm in an eight brother. I say lastly college put me on the international level ⁓ okay, I was local in Chicago LA Chicago's local DJ Rubbaban: Ha ha Okay, okay, okay, okay. That's all I wanted. That's all I wanted some meat but take now what's the music? Give me some music. Give me some music with that. Vince Haynie: all black, Mexican and black. I'm still a little local, a taste of Mexico. I got a taste of Mexico, never got with one, but I fast forward, I go to Seussville, I get international, because you got students from all over the world at this little ⁓ because they were recruiting them. So now I'm in the game now. I don't want no girlfriend, don't need no girlfriend. Why would you take a sandwich to a picnic? That was my model. That was my model. And I'm still, I ain't even 21. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Yeah. Ride, ride. Right? Vince Haynie: I'm not even 21, so I'm loving it. I'm doing what I'm doing, having a good time. I end up graduating. In between me graduating, I go back to Chicago one time, I go back to LA, but something kept bringing me back to Susanville. And I'm going to say, with God directing my path, I believe, that something that kept bringing me back to Susanville was part of my destiny. The other half of me, who is my wife now, for the past 30 years. Because that's where I met her at, in Susanville. When I went back to get on the fire crew again, I met her. So we've been together since 1988. We moved to Chico in 1992. And that's when I met the DJ and the big man who made me. The big man put me in the game, built me in the game, and made me. DJ Rubbaban: Look, look, look, look, look. So look, so one of our mutual friends made him. They put him in the game and they made him. We gon' on national podcast, we gon' give him his piece. Vince Haynie: Yeah, I hope. I spoke to him the other day. say now, you know, you made me man. I think a lot of cats didn't know me until you made me I gave him a prop. He liked to hear that that he made me. He liked to hear from me that he made me. I Scoped this evil a little bit. So yeah, caddy we came here in 1992 and again, I believe that was that was that was ordained in purpose by a high power Me and my wife was just talking about today at the morning devotion. We was talking about how DJ Rubbaban: And what'd say? ⁓ he'd like to hear from you. Vince Haynie: We came here in 92, just me and her. We didn't ask no family to come. We came for, when we were ready to get out of Susanville, remember, I've been here now from 82 to 92, 10 years. So two year college, but I ended up getting a permanent job at the Forest Service and I was just living there as a regular resident. But it was just like, was just, it was getting too small for the vision that I had and obviously for what she had. So she wanted to go to Chico State. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Vince Haynie: I wanted to get out of Seussville. My job headquarter was in Waiarika. So it didn't matter where I lived. I could live in Chico or Seussville. I still had a two and a half hour commute. So it didn't matter to me. And I only worked six months a year and I got laid off. That's when Big Man put me on for those six months that I was laid off so I could supplement my income because I'm a hustler. He saw the hustler spirit in me. Period. He saw that in me. He recruited me, put me on the team, and the rest was history. DJ Rubbaban: Look, look, look, look, my boy gonna keep this. He gonna keep this right here. Rubbaban, you see he told the truth. Rubbaban, he finally told the truth. He finally told now I'm gonna. Vince Haynie: ⁓ never denied that he put me on now Like some of the cats say just let me in the door Crack the door. I'm busting in he cracked the door. He let me in the game. I took over I did my thing the hustler spirit is in me period I just did my thing out of the spirit of excellence and remember back to I had a work ethic with the forest service CaddeyB: We gonna see this all loop. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, this gonna be on loop. Okay, I like that you just said that. Right. Vince Haynie: They taught me how to meet deadlines, how to create them. They taught me a work ethic. At 19, I worked for the Forest Service from 19 till like 30 something, 12 straight years for the US government, Department of Agriculture. They taught me how to work hard. So when I left them, DJ Rubbaban: Bye. Now, let me say this, now let me say this, Vince, now let me say this, me and Katty have talked about this, and you were kind of the first person I seen or that I knew of because we were friends that had this kind of perspective. When we say work, we talk about the drug culture. He explain, elaborate or not elaborate on that. But one of the things that I saw that you did was, You were just a beast with what you did, your work ethic, and you was just all over, and then you would turn your pager off at a certain time, and people would always say, man, man, V turn his pager off, and so and so, so and so. And I remember asking Caddey about this one day. He was like, you got to. Them fiends don't understand. them fiends, yeah. CaddeyB: They don't stop. Vince Haynie: So, Cady was in the game and Chico. DJ Rubbaban: We're just ju- yeah. CaddeyB: ⁓ yeah. Vince Haynie: well I grew up around the game and like I say in Chicago that was just a natural thing to do was Sang something do something ⁓ yeah, I missed out a part though when I came to Susanville The music didn't stop because people was important music. We had students from New York, Mississippi Yeah, blacks people from those in New Jersey CaddeyB: I grew up in the game. Anything, everything. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, I bet. Vince Haynie: They would go home too on Thanksgiving and Christmas. They would come back with the jams. We lived in the dorms, and we had house parties. They would come back with the jams. And one time, one of them fools came back with Houdini. It was on in Krakow. The freaks come out at night. friends, how many of us have them? ⁓ introduced them to it. They was loving our music. We had some, not Indonesia, it Micah and Egypt. Me and my boy, ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Right. And you kicking it with your Indonesians? Yeah, your Indo- CaddeyB: Five minutes of funk. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Mike, okay, okay. Vince Haynie: Les was from South Central LA. He was my roommate in the dorms. We're still good friends to this day. But Les was a big dude, but he can move. He has, boy that boy, that boy, he can move that body. And we used to have the college dances, the house parties, the Micronesian girls, they showing up. Cause every black, black R &B is worldwide, baby. So they, so now they are close and personal to what they saw on TV a lot. They saw us. And they, and my boy Les can dance and me. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Right. Vince Haynie: And I'm a ladies man, he can dance. I'm doing all that. He's doing the dancing. They would tell us to come to their apartments to have a private party, me and Les, to teach them how to dance. So when they go to the party, they know how to dance. we was, the music we had to put on, we couldn't put on any Micronesian music, the belly dance music, the grand service, we had to put on the beat. So we got some Houdini on. That's all we had, really. We had Grand Master Flask. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Okay. right right Ha ha ha ha! Vince Haynie: We dropped them a, don't touch me, close to the edge. That's what we had in 82. So that's what we gave. We gave some Houdini and we gave some Ram at the Flash. We probably gave Mattias been the Curtis Blow, but that was about it on the hip hop. Like you said. DJ Rubbaban: Bye. Yeah, right. Ooh, now let me ask you this, Vince, how do you, at this point in your life, when Caddey kind of transitioned to Chapman Town, do you kind of realize at this point, God has a bigger plan for you? Because you sprinkled us with a few times where you could have either went this way or that way. Like when you woke your mom up to go to college, I mean, to go to college, when a voice told you, I'm calling my mama, I'm going, Vince Haynie: We're here. DJ Rubbaban: California. Yeah. Vince Haynie: Call your mama, go call your mama! CaddeyB: And also before that, have you always been religious? Has it always been, have you always been like a... DJ Rubbaban: YEAHHH! Vince Haynie: Not enough not good I grew up in the hood I grew up in the I'm gonna say this I grew up on the hood like Jay say There's a church on every corner Don't mean we didn't attend them and my mama went to church, but obviously I didn't see any what I understand now biblically That fruit from real church, you know, a lot of people go for the emotions That's what I'm gonna say. That was the case for where I came from in Chicago. So I wasn't religious DJ Rubbaban: Right. Bye. CaddeyB: Mm-hmm. Okay. Vince Haynie: still believed that there was a God, a higher power. I'm going to say that. when we did, when as we went to church, we heard the name of Jesus. So I'm going to say that part, but I wasn't like, get me to the church on time. That's another song. I went like, get me to the church on time. But when I go to college, obviously in Lasting, Sousaville, there no black churches, but we had the Hurlong Army Depot 30 miles away. A lot of the blacks in the Hurlong Army Depot were lot of black people in Hurlong. DJ Rubbaban: Right? Vince Haynie: their kids was our age now, now they go to Lassen College. On Sunday, they would church goers, they would invite us black people that was there from all over to come to church services. But that was just, know, we were just doing that out of just having something to do. We weren't going there for a spiritual experience. We was going there because they were going to cook dinner after service and we're to get a good hot soul food meal. That that was, it was always another motivating factor to that. So fast forward. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Right, right. CaddeyB: Mm-hmm. Vince Haynie: When we, I believe we led the Chico when we decided to make that move, me and my wife, I had one friend that I brought from LA to Sula Mill and he ended up meeting a girl that I went to school with in 82, 83, Pam Brown. He, no, no, that was Stan. Stan and Brown. Yeah. He worked for the Forest Service. I hooked him up with that job. His wife, me and her go back, I used to date her sister and her. DJ Rubbaban: Was that hit? ⁓ Stan, okay. Vince Haynie: other friends. Actually, they all the girls that was her roommates that came to college. She already always had her own apartment. So yeah, I got some stories about that bedroom there too. So anyway, she had moved down here to Chico because she got a job with the DMV and he still worked for the Forest Service and we still homies. I called him up asking what he was doing. He said he was working on another friend of ours who works at the Forest Service. He has some real estate investments here in Chico. DJ Rubbaban: OOOOH! Vince Haynie: some houses that he bought and he rented out. My friend told me, because we was laid off for the winter, working for the forest service, you don't work in the winter. It's a spring and a summer job. So that was cool for me because that's how big man, I worked for big man doing those off seasons. But anyway, I didn't know big man at the time, but he told me he was working for Steve, helping them get a house together that he was going to rent. He said, the house was really nice, man. I said, yeah, man, for rent? He said, yeah, I'm pretty sure he'll rent it to you. I said, yeah, we getting tired of Susan, Bill. Chico State. He said, you guys ought to come down here and check it out. I'll let them know you're interested. And I called Steve and told him I was interested. He told us to come down look at the house. This is in 1992. We came down. So soon as we looked at the house, we liked it right over there on Elmspeed. Where your girl, Slow, lived. Do know where that was? Right down the street from Slow Rica. DJ Rubbaban: Well, look, well, you look, look, you are, look, you kind of mixing a bunch of little story. Like you say, it slow, but so when I met you, you, when I met you, had a red, you go, was it a you go? Yeah, that's when I met you and I lived on, you lived on ⁓ and I lived on Marbury. Yeah, no, I lived in a house and then eventually, Raw wound up living across the street from me. stayed in a house across the street from me, but I lived, you know who I lived two houses from? Frankie. Vince Haynie: Mulberry. And those apartments. that side of Mulberry on my side ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, see I don't think I knew you like I do ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, I lived like one or two houses from Frankie back then. But I knew you from the streets, but you didn't know I live right there. And when I met Keisha, look, when I met your wife, I think the first time I seen her, I was like, who was this little cutie working at McDonald's? I gonna pull her back there, but you already had her. was at McDonald's. Vince Haynie: Right, right, right, right, So yeah, so. Hehehehehe CaddeyB: The first time I met you, Vince, you probably don't even remember, but this was 94. You, Raw, and I think Big Man, rode up in an Impala on Lassen in front of apartments working. Vince Haynie: Uh-huh. Who was working? You was working or we was working? ⁓ CaddeyB: You was working. You was working and was me and a couple of the homeboys. We were standing out there. We was smoking weed or something and y'all rolled up. Vince Haynie: What was wrong with That brick he had? Was he in the brick? Was Scott Lark? CaddeyB: kept moving. Nah, nah, was all in the empower. DJ Rubbaban: And the six four, yeah. was in it. Look, when you was giving it up, that's when we all, look, when we all had low riders, yeah. Vince Haynie: ⁓ okay, okay, okay. Right, right, right. Was it red or was it blue? Oh, okay, we had, it it it through the process. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I first got it here, I brought that from Susanville too. I bought it on the car lot in Susanville. It was red. Yeah, I brought that down. So you always remember the Yugo, but the Impala was red. It came from Susanville also. And we had a blue Nissan 200SX. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. CaddeyB: Blue. DJ Rubbaban: So that was later. Yeah, that was later. ⁓ you did? Y'all did, yeah, y'all did. And we all had buckets. had, yeah, I had a Fiat. had a blue Fiat. I used to push. Vince Haynie: Yeah, that's what we touched down in. then, know, after, know, like I say, again, people keep forgetting I had what they would refer to as a good job. I for the Forest Service. I got all the overtime. made made it. During the six months or seven months I did work, I made good money. And because the hustle of the spirit was still in me, I met Big Man at Stan and Pam's house. Big Man, that's why I came over there. He was servicing my boy. DJ Rubbaban: Bye. Right, right. that's where you met him at? Vince Haynie: He came to service my boy because you know that what he did I have over here when he showed up He took a liking to me Probably at the third fourth time you saw because you big man ain't finna push up on you the first time after On there he figured out Right right he's like And he was black Caesar so after about four or five times that he's seeing me and he's seeing I'm cool DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. No, no, no. He didn't even like take pictures back then. You know, back then, remember, he didn't even like taking pictures. Vince Haynie: That's when he pushed up on me and said, hey man, we can do this here, do this there, bring me back this way. DJ Rubbaban: Bye. He gave you that look, he gave you that speech. Katty, you know that speech they give y'all, you give them speeches. Look, I can change your life. Look. Yeah, yeah. CaddeyB: Aww. Vince Haynie: I can make you famous. He gave me a speech. I can make you famous. So he gave me the speech. I figured, hey, I'm new to town. I don't know too many people. This will give me an opportunity to have some, some what they call that, some party favorites for myself. Cause I dabbled and dabbled. Give me a little time for myself and I get to meet people. I figured interview. I'll be introducing people. Cause I only knew Stan and he was so hand packed. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right. Right. Vince Haynie: His wife would let him leave the porch. So he had to stay there all day on Mulberry. His wife would let him. She would go, right. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Because I didn't see him out that much, yeah. CaddeyB: Nobody ever says it, but that's the one thing that everybody winds up getting in the game for is to supply your own habit. Vince Haynie: Well, yeah, that was a part of it. And I ain't gonna say I had a habit. I wanted to just have some party favorites. Because when I get back to work, couldn't, you know, I wasn't taking no chances. And like I say, I was looking for a good... Yeah, yeah, and that's the way I was looking at it. I'm gonna get free highs and I'm gonna meet people. Because I didn't know nobody, he couldn't go nowhere. That's how I even met at his house, because he couldn't go nowhere. She made sure he stayed in the house or on the porch. And he me stuck there. DJ Rubbaban: Right. CaddeyB: Yeah. But instead of paying for it, might as well make it work for itself. Make it work for itself. DJ Rubbaban: Bye. Vince Haynie: And I was asking this for a while, the black people, and I know some black people or some cool white people in Mexico and Chico, he was acting like he didn't know. They were here too, they was here too. So one day I leave his house from 15th and 16th and Laurel, I just go the other way. Instead of going to Mulberry and going to Fair Street, ⁓ go the way by George Thornton Johnson, because I want to get lost. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Or some Micronesians. You know you. All they was? huh. Right. Right? Vince Haynie: I go that way to go home to hit these 20th. I hit the Dorothy Johnson Park. I see them in their curb serving got the barbecue grill going. All riders. I was like, ⁓ it's right around the corner from this fool. He don't even tell me. I was in heaven. I'm like, that's what I moved here for to be in some sort of a big city. They've barbecued John John them little bit them. Everybody got the grill. got 40 ounces. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah? Yeah. You was in heaven. You was in heaven. But it's. Yeah, love. Vince Haynie: people coming through the little circle getting curves. I'm like, I'm in heaven. I haven't seen that since I left LA and Chicago. Because what happened in Louisville? that's when I go ahead. DJ Rubbaban: Hahaha! But... But... So it still comes down to, still, even though I was a part of it and seeing some of it, listening to you tell us this, I still see times where God kind of still was touching on you, kind of, you know what I mean? Like, even though you was doing those worldly things, you still kind of stood out, Vince. Vince Haynie: I still had integrity and kindness that was still in me. I'm gonna say that came from me, my upbringing, my mom, still our parents and still that in us. To be kind and nice to people and have some degree of integrity do the right thing. Even though now that was my home influence in my house, but then there was external influences when I hit the door. had Magic wand in them. I had cash selling syrup and selling dope, breaking in houses. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Vince Haynie: I still have that also and my mom and them didn't teach us to do all that, but that's what was happening outside our door in Chicago. So. DJ Rubbaban: Now, you started your journey and went from the red 6-4 to the blue 6-4 on switches side to side ⁓ and guts of the inside is nice and we all of us got low riders, you claim Look, you claim it. You got the best low rider out of all of us. Vince Haynie: Okay, I gotta put I gotta insert this part. I'm a follow-up on what I just said about growing up in the hood And we're gonna keep it music to another one of my influences in hip-hop was third base They had a jam called product of the environment That's what I say so I had almost external influences I was a part I was just a product of my environment. That's what I learned. I always DJ Rubbaban: Yep. Okay. Right, I remember that song. So that's what helped you be, yeah, yeah, you definitely. Right, right. Vince Haynie: Growing up in Chicago, and you can say this in LA and Compton, if you ate, 16, you'd probably be 25 in hood years. In hood years. Because you seem, you've been exposed to so much. And like me, I was exposed to not just Magic wine, them in junior high, getting their hair done, but when the lights went off, I'm exposed to the holes on the whole school. That same block where my school was, that was the whole school that night. DJ Rubbaban: Right? Right. Right. ⁓ huh. it was. ⁓ Vince Haynie: and not just girls. had dudes selling booties. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So we was exposed to all of that. We teenagers, we had to come in. First, we got in high school. We went on her food in. I was 11 o'clock. They come out, freaks come out, so the lights go out. So we walking down that street. Yeah, we walk around the same good message. They have Magic wand of girls. They work it. Magic wand would also do what he called the pit parade. DJ Rubbaban: back then, damn, back then. Houdini. Vince Haynie: All the pimps on the West side, they berate their chicks. They got the whole Madison block off. They doing you think down backs, El Dorado's and holes in the parade. So that's the, that was the, I saw that all night growing up. I saw people selling dope and cocaine and you know, it was powder at the time, but, I was exposed to all that. And when I came to LA, it was just warmer, same MO. But I, I was going to be deep into that time. And I met a cat, a crypt. DJ Rubbaban: Uh-huh. What? Right, right. Right, right, right, right. Vince Haynie: He had witnesses homeboy get gunned down by the Bloods. And so happened our paths crossed when I got to Compton. I didn't want to be in gang banging no more. He didn't want to gang bang. I don't know how we met, but we ended up being best friends. He showed me the best parts of LA. He took me to Beverly Hills. He took me to my first beach party. Chris was hosting it. He was still cool with him, but he wasn't banging no more. took me to pocket hood, which right in back of the front of us. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. And he was in front of it. Okay, yeah, pocket, yeah, corner pocket, yeah. Vince Haynie: Yeah, yeah, he was there. But he was still cool with it, but he bang, he witnessed it. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Because right over that little, what you call it, not the little, the river, what you call it, little right behind was the Bloods was right behind that little. Vince Haynie: The Pyrrhus was right there too. All of that. But he was in this little neighborhood behind the front. was called the, it was like a little pocket neighborhood. So it was a pocket, yeah, a corner pocket crib. So he was, me and him become friends, real good friends. And he gave me his story. I gave him my story. And would just show me all the good parts of LA, cause he grew up there. ⁓ I had, you know, I could ride on his credibility as a crib. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, they call it pocket. Yeah. Yeah. Corner pocket crib. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right, 100%. Right. Vince Haynie: They knew I wasn't very natural the way I dress So anyway, we pay you'll say it back to them power So back to I'm gonna go back real quick back to when I moved in that house that Roy Ayers auntie on five bedroom Four four bedroom house. I my mama gave me my mama had a master bedroom with a bathroom in it on the other end was my bedroom of the house It was a master bedroom with a bathroom in it DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right. Which is huge. Whoa. Vince Haynie: So she said we moved the comp, then we moving on up. We were, and then we had two more bathrooms in the middle of the house. And my little sister, there's like five bedrooms in 1981. So the room I moved in, I just got the LA. We fixed up cars in Chicago, but when I came to LA, it was on a whole nother level. It wasn't those six trays in the eighties and seventies. They had them, but they was hot riding them. They weren't low riding them. I heard it's wrong by war, low rider. I didn't know what it meant. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Yup. Right, right. Right. Vince Haynie: I got to LA, to Compton, because we lived on the boulevard. Now, when I got there, whoever lived in that house previous, they liked low riders. And they had a stack of low rider magazines in the room I moved in. I'm looking at these low rider magazines. I'm looking at the interior, the paint job, the switches. I'm like, it was a stack of them. I got to look at them every night. I already like cars. So I'm getting a vision. like, ⁓ then I go outside at night in the front of it. I live on El Segundo. But our house was set in the back. You know how house in LA, you got three or four on one lot. So they had ours was way in the back, the big house, and they had some little ones in the middle and then one big house. I walked through the drive-thru. At night, I see six fours and six threes hopping. I'm like, what's that? I'm like, what's that? They said, ⁓ that's a low rider. I'm a low rider, just like the books in my bedroom. They said, yeah, they was jumping and hopping and scraping. And then as I found out and reading the magazines and just keeping an ear to the street. DJ Rubbaban: Right. giving it up. Vince Haynie: I found out the preferable car was a 6-4 or a 6-3. I was the preferable low rider, the preferred low rider. Well, I was born in 1963. So what I gotta get? It's great. So I'm in Susanville in a car lot, which I always liked cars. I just go in the car lot just to look, just to browse. I look in the back, way in the junk section in the dead row like Craig was in. Guess what's back there? DJ Rubbaban: Yo. Right. a six three or six four. Vince Haynie: a red 6.3 Impala with a brand new motor in it. Some little old lady from Pasadena, AKA Westwood up just traded it in for a better car. And the guy told me, and I played it off like I wasn't interested in it, because I spotted it. And I just went back there and said, hey, what's up with that old ragdoll? Chevy back there. He said, ⁓ man, some old lady. In Susanville, they ain't in the low ground. He said, some old lady just traded it in. We gave her an upgrade. He said, well, the good thing about it DJ Rubbaban: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, ⁓ yeah. Vince Haynie: she had just put a brand new motor in it. I'm thinking, brand new motor. It didn't have no headliner in it. It didn't have no carpet in it. The cease cotton was coming out. He thinking he got a piece of junk. I'm thinking another man treasures this boy's treasure, because it was a sixth trade. I already know what I'm going do to it. I tell them, you want for it? Oh, man, we don't want over $1,500. $1,500? I ain't got no money. Would you take payments? Yeah, give us $300 down, $100 a month. Let's write it up. We wrote up the paper. I rolled out of that bad boy with a pallet with a brand new engine in it. No headliner, cotton coming out of all the seats and sitting on steel. Wasn't no carpet, it was steel. But I'm rolling that bad boy rubber. I got me a six tray. DJ Rubbaban: I gotta put the picture up too. gotta put, when we do this, I gotta put the picture up too. Yeah. Vince Haynie: But I got a six-rate. I got a six-rate. Something I always said I was gonna have. I got one. I'm like, here it is. So now... DJ Rubbaban: But do you see again, but look, do you see again, you are getting favor, you are getting favor. Vince Haynie: I got what I said. So yeah, because I got what I said I was going to have. And I go look for it. It found me. Actually, it stood out like a sore thumb. And I seen it way from the other at the front of the I see it way in the back in the dead row. And I point to it. I just go back there and check it out real quick. Then I came back in the car. So hey, man, how much you want for that red car back there? Oh, man, blah, blah, blah, blah, $1,500, man. And I knew what it was. They didn't know. They didn't know. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah Right, right, right, right, Yeah. ⁓ Vince Haynie: And I had already had all those little out of magazines. I've seen them. I had a vision of what it could be. So when I bought that car, six months later, we moved to Chico. So when I got down to Chico and I bought the Yugo, like I used to go to a wrecking yard. I got that Yugo at a wrecking yard for about $300. So we drove the Yugo back, Keisha's Nissan, and I went back last and got that Impala. DJ Rubbaban: there. OHHHH Ryan. Right. Vince Haynie: So I brought it down here. Remember I was still broke. Remember when I first got hooked up, I could only afford two McClains. You ended up inheriting those two McClains. I couldn't get four, I bought two of them. bought, he had to buy those McClains. Cause I went through three sets of wheels. Those were my first ones. So he made all of them. But no, I started out, I couldn't have, I went to the next one and got them. This was new, that's why I even sell them spoke. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Right, right. Look, look at you. Look at you put my business, look at you put my business in the street. Look, you know Big Man made all of us and I wasn't even in the game. Yeah, I wasn't even in the game. Vince Haynie: They can sell them other wheels, but they have some claims with some gold nipples on them. I said, well, give me those. And they say, well, we can't give you credit for form. You can only we're going to get to them. Give me the two. Give me those right now. Put them on the driver's side. So I'm going. DJ Rubbaban: Now look, now, caddy, remember on my 6'6", I had the McClaines on it. Look, look at it, look, look. Vince Haynie: I sold them, when I finally got enough money, I got the other two pair and put them on the packaging side. So, but everybody know I was rolling with two. I was rolling like I was in company. I had a six-grade, the interior still wasn't done, no paint job, but I had some McClains, two of them. That's all I could afford at time. And when I got my weight up, I got the other two and then I went into beautifying it. I ended up selling Craig those McClains. I got some other Road Stars and then it just went up for that. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Ho ho! Vince Haynie: By that time I'm still working, I'm managing my money a little more, to put me in the game, I'm in the game, I got more money, I got a budget now to fix the impala the way I want to, because I'm bringing in 500 a day from sale. DJ Rubbaban: Now let me ask you this before you, you go it on, Katty, go it on. CaddeyB: So, so. Vince Haynie: Go ahead, Cap. CaddeyB: So, so to the music part, what was, what were you listening to when music was moving, like when life was moving fast, then when you was when you was when you was hustling, when you were struggling, ⁓ you was when you was doing all that. DJ Rubbaban: $500 a ⁓ day. Vince Haynie: Okay, Okay, ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Mays, Frankie, Beverly, what you listening to? CaddeyB: And this is mid-90s. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Vince Haynie: By the time I get to Chico in 1992, we still watching MTV and all the video channels and this album dropped right here. Look behind you, this one dropped, The Chronic. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, okay. Vince Haynie: rolling down the street. It was not easy. rolled out. The product came out and I'm still building and power like I want to, but I'm getting inspiration from Dre rolling in my six foe. What are the niggas saying? Lay me down. So that's what's out now. I meant when I first came to Chico, the chronic had just dropped. Now I'm starting to build my car and I'm getting the vision of me rolling down the street on green leaves. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, that's right behind me right there. Yeah. Now the big man had a 5.0 that, yeah. Vince Haynie: I think he had that black one with the music in it. Never got no wheels on it. Yeah, I got on, cause he never got no wheels on it. He only had hum. That's what he was known for. That's what he was known for. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, he had hump, he had hump, and he was living, yeah. Yeah, he had hump though. Yeah. He was known for a hump. And look, and he would listen to a lot of Bay Area rap. Yeah, he would listen. Mack Morrow, all of that. Vince Haynie: Right, right, right, right. You know, I'm still, I was still claiming Compton because I came, I graduated from San Diego High. So, remember when I straight out had, right, I the, I got the, I got the pants on too. Yeah, I got the Viva pants on too. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, you got on the feeler. Look, you got on that feeler shirt right now. look. You got on the pants too? Look. And I see you in a lot of red too. So it just kind of, you know, I always thought you belong. Look, I always thought you belong to us. You know what I'm saying? You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Vince Haynie: I like, I like, like it. CaddeyB: Yeah, but nah, but he was rolling a tray. I mean, you know ⁓ Vince Haynie: Hold out hold out roll the train was blue. It's like you're like, it's like no Chevy was blue I noticed you didn't paint that boy red either CaddeyB: Exactly. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah. so look, so as you start to finish transitioning, how are you feeling about the haters? Because you have a lot of light on you ⁓ and have a certain kind of work ethic and people are starting to notice and your can be infectious. So how are you treating the haters? Like how are you moving between all these snakes? How are you steady growing? Cause you're growing now. Vince Haynie: But Leon, was just being myself. Like I say, growing up in Chicago, again, I saw cats like Magic Wine and others, big Leo, they did stuff out of excellence. Magic Wine, I'm still doing, we would see him in the green and gold, Seville, Rolls Royce, Fleetwood. was just cats, they made the best of what they had in the hood, but what they had, they just did it with excellence. And that's what I saw. That's what was instilled with me. I remember my boy Leo. He was a car thief in Chicago. His parents owned the corner store, but he was a car thief too. And he used to fix up cars. And I say fix them up, hook them up, dress them up. ⁓ ⁓ all the youngsters in the neighborhood, he would let me ride with him. And when I ride with him, he'd find up a joint. I'm 15, 16. He'd find up a joint. He'd give me a bottle of ⁓ Duck. Remember Malt Duck? DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Yeah Vince Haynie: It's just going to really go get your bug. But that was Leo's drink of choice. But I'm riding with him in his car with his gangsta white walls on it, sun roof, whatever. And he would tell me, he said, man, whatever car you get, man, whatever year it is, whatever model, make sure that nobody touch you. And that always stuck with me when he said, make sure nobody touch it, that you have the best one of that year, that model. That always stuck with me. So when I got the car I wanted, The year I was born and I knew it was popular and I had those lowriding magazines. I thought that was just all divine. Somebody left those in my bedroom and then I found out that was the car to have and I'm watching Cupid and them. They're my idols now. If they come from Compton, I'm from Compton. I ain't lying, I'm from Compton. I show you my high school diploma. They come Compton. I'm watching videos. This is the year, the season, the decade of the videos. I'm watching videos. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Right. Right. Vince Haynie: I'm watching these fools queue. Today was a good day. I'm seeing these cats and we're the same age. are too. So videos was they was influencing me. I remember my friend Ellen say, man, you've been watching all the videos and you getting influenced by them. Yeah, I was because I understood what it was from and I understood they like excellence too. Dre, you know, on the chronic, you open it up. He's sitting on the sixth tray, you know, and snooping. DJ Rubbaban: Ride. Right. But that's still you. But that was you even when we even when we was all in a car club together. Me shout out rest in peace. Nani Nani had his Cadillac. I had the six six you had the six what three Craig had Craig had the six deuce. ⁓ Vince Haynie: But like I say And it was those videos and the things they was doing And the stuff they was talking about in the lyrics we was actually doing it I was doing it but I was doing it on a level like you said the haters I was doing it on a level Where my background working for the government the US Foreign Service Had taught me a lot of stuff and I still tell my wife the things they taught me I still use today DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Vince Haynie: So they taught me a work ethic. They taught me how to put in, work hard and have some objectives. They taught me that. So when I went 100 % to the game after me and the US Forest Service parted ways, I had said, I ain't gonna work for nobody. I'm gonna go ahead and do my own thing. So I saw that as a business opportunity. Yeah, well, it was a business opportunity. It was something that I did. DJ Rubbaban: And then you started to explode and you started to explode. Did the haters, did the haters, because usually the first people that kind of come in and mess with you as your family, because they see, they want money because they see you with money. mean, Caddey, you can relate to this. once you started, because Caddey kind of quiet with his, Caddey, Caddey doing something and then you don't know, you be like, damn. But did your family, no, no, but what about your families? Did your families? CaddeyB: Yeah. Vince Haynie: He ain't doing anything. He still crying. He ain't gonna let you go. CaddeyB: Nah. DJ Rubbaban: kind of want a piece or was you paying apartment bills? Would you fixing stuff like, cause Vince you was doing it for a minute. Vince Haynie: I was always generous, but at the same time I'm not going to be generous to a fault where losing. I'm say ⁓ was always, and I'm still am today, I'm generous with knowledge, with wisdom. Remember you give a man a fish, I heard that they'll eat for a day if you teach them how to fish. So I'm not going to be covering this. I'll tell my family members, my brothers and sisters, hey, if you want to do what I do, even when I started investing in real estate and coming up in that. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. Vince Haynie: I was even with big man big man. Okay, this is what I'm gonna do We're gonna master this real estate game. I'm not gonna turn on my pager till noon You know, I don't I turn it on at eight but DJ Rubbaban: You hear this you guys? The drug dealer the time says he's not even turning his pager on until noon. That's losing money. Vince Haynie: I know, because I'm mastering something else that's going to make me more. I'm listening to the... CaddeyB: It's not losing money if you just putting your time into making other money. Vince Haynie: I was putting my time into learning something up and I told you're welcome to come to my house. We gonna listen to these CDs. They was at tapes at the time. We gonna listen to these tapes. We gonna master this. That way we gonna get out the game. Cause this real estate gonna blow up. We gonna do this. So I was never covered this with information or who the man, who the cat was. I'ma let you know. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah! I remember the tapes. I used to hear about the tapes. Cause you used to tell me about the tapes. Yeah. You will tell me about the tapes. Vince Haynie: He didn't want to do that. And I did that for my family. Hey, here's how I'm doing this. And even with being in the game with other people, I ain't gonna hook you up with my connect because they didn't give me that green light to do that. But you can get it from me. DJ Rubbaban: Even though you didn't took other people connects, Vince Haynie: like four by day. I got I got clients man. They they they they need their medicine. CaddeyB: The thing is, did you give him the fee when you took the Kinect? As long as you gave him the fee, then it's paid for, good. DJ Rubbaban: No, no he didn't. Vince Haynie: No, no, no, no, no. I had been giving him the feed for two, three years previous. And I didn't stop because I was being greedy. I stopped because he was trying to cut the pipeline off. I knew who the people were. I knew who they were ⁓ you're my boy. I want you to make this money. I want you to make this money. But if you're going to be selfish and talking about you're the big man now, you're the Black Caesar, CaddeyB: There you go, that's it. Vince Haynie: I'm going to, I already know who these cats are. Cause they, they, they, they helping me with their impeller. They painting it. They doing the interior. They doing, I already know it. I know I'm there with them all the time. I'm just playing the drum roll like I don't know. Cause you my boy, I'm helping your business. I can go direct, but when you clown like that, I'm going have to your whole car. So I pulled the car. I just went over to where we going all the time with our cars. DJ Rubbaban: right right right Bye. Man. Vince Haynie: I went over there, had a conversation. They like, what? like, cause now you off their money too. You shedding off their money too. DJ Rubbaban: Now, look, now look, so look, so he won't get mad at me. Look, so this is as we talk about music, as we talk about the blessings and all that, let's move forward to, cause we ain't even got to the spiritual part where you, let's get to, to where I won't say the height, but I'll say to where you had the big house down where all the rich people live