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Chuck in the Morning 8-10 Hour 3: Mariners weekend, Talk of Camp and Talk of the NFL. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Eight o'clock hour here on this Monday morning. Great to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us. Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three, pulling three kJ r fms. We
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  Speaker 1: broadcast live here from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: training camp, taking up a notch. It is a game week.
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  Speaker 1: This week we countdown the days to the preseason opener
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday at home against the Dallas Cowboys. Already had
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  Speaker 1: Emmanuel Henderson Junior on so he's excited about Saturday. Already
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  Speaker 1: had Greg Bell on here today, and there is Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: There's some I don't know what the pattern is for
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  Speaker 1: their workouts, but you know they're now saying that like
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  Speaker 1: walking is all you have to do. Like running maybe
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  Speaker 1: a little overrated at a certain age, and so as
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  Speaker 1: long as you get your ten thousand steps in that
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  Speaker 1: that's that's as good a thing as you can do
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  Speaker 1: for yourself during the course of a day. And so
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  Speaker 1: you see a lot of the coaches slash executives and
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  Speaker 1: they just walk around the field during the course of
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  Speaker 1: our show, but it's only one at a time. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost like they act like, no, we can't, that'll look weird.
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  Speaker 1: If two of us are doing it, we.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta do one at a time, right, So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if there's just scheduling done and then you get
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a sketch and it's not
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  Speaker 1: like one tags out and then the other one starts.
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  Speaker 1: It's only one guy per day while our show's going
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  Speaker 1: on that will walk in. It was Mike McDonald the
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  Speaker 1: other day, it was John Schneider a week ago.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's an assistant coach, and sadly I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who it is.
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  Speaker 4: Someone's got to man the phones, so they can only
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  Speaker 4: have one person EVA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's he's out here most frequently and he
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  Speaker 1: just kind of walks the course and they just go
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  Speaker 1: around the entire practice field, just walking, and they always
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  Speaker 1: have headsets on, so they're either listening to a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: probably you and I, or maybe it's music. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's the Daily Gospel. I don't know. But this
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  Speaker 1: one guy, he's walking around, walking around the perimeter, and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, and I, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like watching him do it, but you certainly see
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  Speaker 1: him every lap, every time he comes around this corner
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  Speaker 1: to our set you see him, and so I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see what he did in the midst of his latest lap,
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  Speaker 1: But at one point, all of a sudden, a coffee
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  Speaker 1: just emerged in his hand, an iced coffee. Is there
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  Speaker 1: a Starbucks on the other side? Is there a Starbucks
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  Speaker 1: over there where the deer and the antelope play? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: where in the world did you get an iced coffee
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of your walk out here on the field.
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  Speaker 4: I'm jealous. I want to figure out how that happens.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we need to set you up on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the field tomorrow or next time you're there,
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  Speaker 2: and then you could have endless iced coffees while you
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  Speaker 2: hang out over there.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the secret to monitor him well more closely
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  Speaker 1: the next time I see him do this. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if they've got like ice coffee shed over
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  Speaker 1: there and the tool shed over there tucked in the back,
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  Speaker 1: or if somebody, if he's so important, somebody ran it
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  Speaker 1: out to the field for him to have it. But
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  Speaker 1: he's walking without a coffee, ice coffee. And then the
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  Speaker 1: next lap I see him with ice coffee.
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  Speaker 4: Which would you prefer?
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  Speaker 2: Would you prefer it that he's so important that someone
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  Speaker 2: ran it out to him, or would you prefer that
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  Speaker 2: there's a secret ice coffee stand or coffee stand over
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  Speaker 2: in the corner of the practice.
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  Speaker 1: Field without question the latter, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think I would too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it'd be great to be like man,
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  Speaker 2: I wish I was so important that someone just brought
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  Speaker 2: me coffee while I was walking like mid stride, never
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  Speaker 2: had to move my hands out, You just place it
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  Speaker 2: in there. But at the same time, if I knew
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  Speaker 2: of the secret coffee shed in the corner of the
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  Speaker 2: practice field would be way better.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of liked the idea that at that little
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  Speaker 1: at that light post on the very opposite of me,
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  Speaker 1: on the other end of the field, that there's almost
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  Speaker 1: like a keg over there, like an ice coffee keg.
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  Speaker 4: It's like the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And on the backside there's a secret compartment with
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  Speaker 1: ice in it, uh and cups. And then he just
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  Speaker 1: goes up to that light post, presses a button and
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  Speaker 1: all of that emerges and he just helps himself to
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  Speaker 1: an iced coffee. That's really what I want to have.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because I grew up watching Maxwell Smart. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. You know, you just
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  Speaker 1: you want things to be magical. I just want there
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  Speaker 1: to be some like hidden Starbucks in the woods. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not a Starbucks, let's scratch that, like a hidden uh
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  Speaker 1: Pete's Coffee in the woods over there. Pete never pets
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  Speaker 1: never did anything to hurt our feelings, did they?
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  Speaker 2: No, they didn't know. Pizza I'm pretty sure has not
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  Speaker 2: helped us lose a basketball team anytime recently.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle's Best didn't have anything to do with Jamal Adams
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  Speaker 1: being traded here, did they.
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  Speaker 2: No, they sure did not, because if they did, no
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  Speaker 2: one should ever drink it again.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So, oh yeah, that's my wish. Rayconsella, that's
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  Speaker 1: my wish. All right, Well, let's talk about this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: because man, it is it a bitter sweet pill to
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  Speaker 1: have to swallow. I've only been here eleven years now.
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  Speaker 1: Some of you have watched this organization since its birth
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  Speaker 1: fifty years. Some of you have known nothing but Mariners Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: You were birthed into a world where there was already
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  Speaker 1: Mariner's history, and you've known nothing but the Seattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: Judging by many of you on social media, you're angered,
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  Speaker 1: You're frustrated, yes, by the way things have gone over
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  Speaker 1: the last fifty years. But judging by attendance, judging by
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  Speaker 1: things like Jimothy being able to sell out a stadium,
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  Speaker 1: or the people that's stuck around. I mean, how many
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  Speaker 1: stuck around twenty thousand Friday night to watch the Old
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  Speaker 1: Timers runs? Thirty thousand? Maybe? I mean so, I mean
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  Speaker 1: you see all the complaining because those are the that's
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  Speaker 1: the major platform, right, I mean, sports talk radio doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even take as many phone calls as what we once did.
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  Speaker 1: So you're the most amount of feedback that you actually
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  Speaker 1: witness an experience is what you see on social media,
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  Speaker 1: and it's almost all negative, yeah, toward the organization. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the platform is built to do. And so you're
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  Speaker 1: under the impression that you know, the entire fan base
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  Speaker 1: is angry. Well, clearly they're not. Otherwise you're not attending
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  Speaker 1: all of these events and taking advantage of this. So
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  Speaker 1: not everybody is furious. Not everybody's drawn a line in
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  Speaker 1: the sand, Not everybody's boycotting the Seattle Mariners. And yet
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that there probably are, Ashley, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of most people are kind of like you and I
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  Speaker 1: from the standpoint of what we talked about a little
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  Speaker 1: bit earlier. I had every reluctance in the world about
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. I was not going to attend it, even
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  Speaker 1: though I think it would have been fun, and although
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  Speaker 1: I had two who I consider friends in the home
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  Speaker 1: run derby on Friday night, and I know, I knew
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  Speaker 1: that Saturday was going to be a spectacle and it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be really well done, which it was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was an A plus ceremony that they
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  Speaker 1: put on on Saturday. But I didn't go. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: attend in person. I turned off my television Friday night
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  Speaker 1: when the game was over, flipped it over to a
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  Speaker 1: television show I've been watching, and went to bed. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the home run derby. I
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  Speaker 1: was so angry about the way the baseball team played,
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  Speaker 1: and I was planning on watching it on Friday night. Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: I was planning on watching the ceremony. I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: there in time. I didn't see the first couple of
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  Speaker 1: but and it hadn't been ultra important to me. You
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  Speaker 1: better believe I'd have been set and ready to go
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  Speaker 1: and had the popcorn popped in and ready to go
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  Speaker 1: and watch it all. So that sort of speaks to
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  Speaker 1: my reluctance to throw my arms around the events that
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  Speaker 1: took place over the weekend. And part of it, too
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  Speaker 1: was I didn't grow up here. I didn't get birthed
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  Speaker 1: into Mariners baseball, and I kind of felt like this
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  Speaker 1: weekend belonged to all of you that did. But I
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  Speaker 1: didn't throw my arms around either of these events. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't spend a lot of time on the airwaves previewing
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  Speaker 1: these events. And yet once I did give it my attention,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be honest, you get swept
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  Speaker 1: up in it. It was fantastic. Saturday was fantastic, and
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  Speaker 1: from what I understand through Ashley Friday, the home run
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  Speaker 1: derby was fantastic. And so they did it again the organization.
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  Speaker 1: They distracted us, at least in the moment, away from
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  Speaker 1: how disappointing a brand of baseball this team has played
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  Speaker 1: all season long, and they're playing their worst right now,
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  Speaker 1: and they distracted us by being excellent in the moment
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  Speaker 1: and putting together two really fan friendly, nostalgic, heartwarming events
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  Speaker 1: that were executed beautifully last night that Ashley, we cannot
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  Speaker 1: deny no.
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  Speaker 2: And it was and I think that it's important for
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  Speaker 2: people to as frustrating as this team is and as
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  Speaker 2: hard as it is to watch the on field product,
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  Speaker 2: it is important to separate two facets of this organization
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  Speaker 2: because the pr leg of this organization is doing their
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  Speaker 2: job right. They are supposed to highlight this team. They
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  Speaker 2: are supposed to draw crowds. They're supposed to get you
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  Speaker 2: excited about whatever nights they have. And it's not to
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  Speaker 2: distract you from the on field product, because they'd be
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  Speaker 2: doing the same thing if the Mariners were successful. It
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  Speaker 2: is because that is their job and they are very
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  Speaker 2: very good at it.
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  Speaker 1: And and I had to plan this way in advance,
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  Speaker 1: way in advance.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, So there's a lot of people that are like, well, how,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how ridiculous that they're doing a celebration in
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  Speaker 2: August when the team is this bat Well, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: plan it at the end of July saying like, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: the team's playing really crappy. You know what, guys, let's
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  Speaker 2: put together a fiftieth anniversary celebration to distract people from
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the team's playing crappy.
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  Speaker 4: Can we do it in two weeks? Yeah, we can
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  Speaker 4: do it in two weeks. Let's I mean that's not.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, right, So I think it is important to
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  Speaker 2: recognize that, you know, first off, fifty years of having.
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  Speaker 4: The team, that is a big milestone.
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  Speaker 2: To have the fiftieth YEA and to honor all those
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  Speaker 2: players that have been a part of the history. And
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  Speaker 2: I think it was really cool to watch the way
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  Speaker 2: it all happened, and it made me feel, you know,
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  Speaker 2: proud to be a lifelong Mariners fan.
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  Speaker 4: And then the game made me feel like, oh, that's right,
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  Speaker 4: this is what being a lifelong Mariners fan feels like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think, yeah, and I think and to see
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  Speaker 1: all those guys so happy on the field and having
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  Speaker 1: been acknowledged, and I'm sure there were a few guys
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  Speaker 1: at home that weren't so happy, former Mariners who weren't
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  Speaker 1: named to the fifty, but the ones that were there, man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, not only was it done in a class way,
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  Speaker 1: but they just all seem to be just having the
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  Speaker 1: best time out there on the field, including Alex Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: and I'm glad he got a few cheers frankly on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday as well. But it's one of those things like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if we can't win, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: watch this ceremony, and yet you turn it on, you
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  Speaker 1: reluctantly do it, and you can't help but get swept
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  Speaker 1: up in it. And by the end of it, man,
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  Speaker 1: I think I cried four times. I didn't even grow
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  Speaker 1: up a Mariner fan, and I think I cried four
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  Speaker 1: times during that ceremony, And so it was worth it.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you you watched Friday and Saturday and
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  Speaker 1: got swept up in both of the events as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say, on one hand, like, obviously, you
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  Speaker 1: know there was some reluctance by a lot of equal
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  Speaker 1: to want to have to be reminded of fifty years
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  Speaker 1: of history and act like you can celebrate when you're
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  Speaker 1: so frustrated with the team. But those of us that
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  Speaker 1: did give ourselves to it were glad that we did.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no question that it was successfully executed.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, absolutely, and yeah it was. I mean it
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  Speaker 2: is I think my Mariner's fandom right now. I am
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  Speaker 2: in extreme compartmentalization. I mean I looked at those on
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  Speaker 2: Friday and Saturday as four different events. There was the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners game on Friday, then there was the home run
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  Speaker 2: derby two separate events. Then on Saturday it was the
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  Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary celebration, and then there was the game. Now,
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  Speaker 2: had they those games been different, I probably would have
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  Speaker 2: looked at it like one big event on both days.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just the excitement carrying over and the fun
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  Speaker 2: and the fun and the fun. But I had to
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  Speaker 2: compartmentalize because I didn't want the crappy on field play
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  Speaker 2: to take away from what I'd seen.
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  Speaker 1: And good for Alvin Davis and we should expect him
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  Speaker 1: to do things the right way because he always does,
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  Speaker 1: but for him to be the mister Mariner who actually
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  Speaker 1: spoke on behalf of all of the players and his
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  Speaker 1: speech was fantastic, and he included the current team, and
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  Speaker 1: he even gave that pep speech at the end right
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  Speaker 1: where he implored them, we believe in you. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: get this done this year, finish this off. Be the
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  Speaker 1: team that accomplishes what none of us could have accomplish
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  Speaker 1: for Seattle, and that is to win a World Series.
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  Speaker 1: And you thought, oh, maybe mister Mariner will have provided
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  Speaker 1: the spark, the magical words, and instead a loss in
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  Speaker 1: which you can't score runs against anyone's pitching followed up
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  Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday night and then continued into Sunday and
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  Speaker 1: lo and Bold you get swept over the weekend, having
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  Speaker 1: scored a grand total of four runs in three games,
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  Speaker 1: and that includes the shutout at the hands of the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers in the last game of that series as well,
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  Speaker 1: And so not even that could inspire the troops. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to take. It may
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  Speaker 1: not happen at this stage. So, yes, it was a
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  Speaker 1: frustrating weekend, the most frustrating as a fan of the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six Mariners. But I think it was still
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  Speaker 1: a successful weekend for the lifelong Mariner fan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I.
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  Speaker 1: If that's fair, I don't know. Maybe that maybe, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of people that disagree
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  Speaker 1: with that.
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  Speaker 4: Well I don't. I mean, I don't want to speak
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  Speaker 4: for everybody, right, I only speak for myself.
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  Speaker 2: But I just thought it was Yeah, as a lifelong
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  Speaker 2: Mariners fan, I thought half of it was really special
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  Speaker 2: and half of it was really frustrating. Again, it's just.
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  Speaker 4: That same thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's the I wish that the team could live up
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  Speaker 2: to what Alvin Davis was saying. I wish the team
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  Speaker 2: could have shown up and I wish there were glimpses
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  Speaker 2: there were moments of a fight, you know, from on
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  Speaker 2: at least Saturday and.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit maybe Friday and Saturday. But it's just
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  Speaker 4: it's just that's the bummer.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I said earlier, I have to compartmentalize
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  Speaker 2: because I can't. I don't want it to take away
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  Speaker 2: from that special moment of the fifty.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was great. I thought it was well done.
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  Speaker 2: I celebrate what this organization did on Friday and Saturday
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  Speaker 2: as far as those go. As far as what the
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  Speaker 2: team did it, I don't. And so yeah, you have
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  Speaker 2: to separate the two if you want to, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to recognize that they're one is one doesn't directly
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  Speaker 2: affect the other.
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  Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 1: Man, Well, if you used your displeasure with the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six Mariners and boycotted the other two things as
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  Speaker 1: a Mariner fan, I think you lost out. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I think that you definitely needed to see Saturday. And
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  Speaker 1: I wish I would have seen Friday. I wish I
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been so angry that I turned the television off.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that you missed out. I really do,
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  Speaker 1: even though I understand your frustration. Yeah, yes, And as
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  Speaker 1: successful an event as it was on Saturday and on
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  Speaker 1: Friday night. It doesn't take away from the fact that
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  Speaker 1: this team's playing lousy baseball at deep worst possible time
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  Speaker 1: to be playing lousy baseball. And it really does feel
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  Speaker 1: like you have dug yourself a hole. Not that it
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  Speaker 1: can't you can't come out of it, but the way
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  Speaker 1: you've played this is now four and a half months.
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  Speaker 1: The outliers, as Dick Vane pointed out last week, the
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  Speaker 1: outliers are the good games, like, you have established yourself
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  Speaker 1: as not being a good baseball team. You have good
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  Speaker 1: individual parts, but you're not a good baseball team right now.
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  Speaker 1: And certainly mathematically you can resurrect and you can still
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  Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and win the division because everyone
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  Speaker 1: else in the American League has helped make this a possibility.
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  Speaker 1: But where does that win streak that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: need come from when you have established yourself as not
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  Speaker 1: being able to create that for four and a half months.
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  Speaker 1: We shall see it's not impossible, but this is I
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  Speaker 1: have reached the point in the season where I now
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  Speaker 1: am on the other side. I think that it's probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen. That's where I'm at right now,
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that it can't happen. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying they're out of it, but I have moved
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  Speaker 1: to the other side of the fence and have acknowledged
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  Speaker 1: that it's probably not going to occur with our last
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  Speaker 1: couple of minutes because we haven't had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: really talk about this yet. The snubs on Saturday? Did
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you who did you feel got snubbed from the list?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I think Jeff Nelson should have been on the list. Yeah,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that was one of the ones. I could have made
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a case for Geno, but I understand why he wasn't
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: on there. But I think my main one was I
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: was surprising Elly wasn't there.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Edwin Diaz needed to be on this list.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I mean a short period of time was sensational for
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: him to be, what the second leading save guy in
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: franchise history when he was only here for a short
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: period of time, shows you how excellent he was in
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that time. I was really as a matter of fact,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I just realized, now Jim Presley's not on the list.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, now that's a guy that hit like seventy
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: five home runs over a three year span for the Mariners.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Was an All Star. He was the guy keeping Edgar
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Martinez from getting to the major leagues for goodness sake.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I thought for sure he was recognized over a what
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: seven year career as one of the fifty best. So
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he's not on this list. I mean,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: overall numbers, not great, overall war not great throughout his career,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: but I thought he was recognized by this organization as
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: one of its best early parts of Mariner's history players,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and it just don't. I just went through the list
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: just before we came on the air, like making sure,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: did you really not put Jim Presley on the list?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm surprised by that. Yeah, and frankly, like there
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: was a little bit of take care of your own
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: kind of I don't think Dave Valley was ever that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: good of a player. I get that as a catcher
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: that was here for a long period of time, he
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: probably made a lot of pitchers better. He had a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: skill set for that. But it's hard for me to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: believe that he's one of your fifty best players. And
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: my guess is he was only on the list because
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: he's still part of the organization, and so that's probably
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the guy I'd take off to make room for an
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz Aranelli or at Jim Presley, and I could
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: probably pick out a couple of others and maybe they're
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: guilty of the exact same connection to the organization. But
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: obviously there was a little bit of that going on
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and rounding out the bottom of the list.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: No, and I do think that there was definitely reasons
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: why some people were put on there versus others, and so.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Could I could see that, Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Coming up next, we will have a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: talk of camp for you out here at Seahawks Training Camp,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and we will discuss the twenty twenty six Mariners more
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: specifically coming up at nine o'clock today. Plus we still
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: got to get to your ABC's of the MS. But
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: next it's talk of camp here and renting at the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 20:33
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• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Let's give them something to talk about. How about love,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Love Love Love, I love us, give it out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's time for talk of camp, giving you something
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about every single day here out at Seahawks
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Training Camp, Virginia Mason Athletics Center. And yes, we have
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the dawn has broken, the morning has broken, and we
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: are getting ready for another practice game week here for
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and certainly after FanFest on Saturday. There are
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of players that are creating some hype around
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: these here parts. And then the Judarian Price the injury
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: which he sat for a couple practices, that's generating a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: lot of conversation. But I think the talk of camp
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: this morning has nothing to do with anyone on the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: active roster. The talk of camp are all the stories
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that are swirling around whether or not the Seahawks are interested.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Actually we know that they are interested. Just how interested
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks are in adding Arrian Arnold. That has been
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a huge topic of conversation throughout the course of the weekend.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: For those of you who may not be in the know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: maybe you're just getting around to you know, you went
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: hiking and just came down from a mountain, Like, what
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Terry and Arnold? Who's that? Is that?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: That guy from the Lions that got arrested. Yes, that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the guy from the Lions that got arrested. That's who
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we're talking about here, And not exactly for jaywalking. This
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: is a guy that is right now facing eight different counts.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: He's not in jail, but he's facing eight different counts
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that could, if tacked together, put him in prison for
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the rest of his life. And yet there might be
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: enough wiggle room in there for some misinformation or maybe
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: he's got enough distance from the criminals themselves. That's created
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a window that organizations are keeping
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: aware of a young cornerback who was a first round
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: draft selection just a couple of years ago out of
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Alabama and so certainly worthy of having on your roster,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and a couple of teams have brought him in. It's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: for interviews. The Seahawks have done it twice, okay, so
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they found out a little bit about him, and now
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: they brought him back in and so obviously whatever they
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: heard the first time around did not scare them off.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: As they're trying to find out more information about Terry
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and Arnold, why he's involved in this, what his involvement
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: is in this, and just collect kind of character of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a person that he is. But the information seems stacked
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: against him, certainly, and they're trying to get to the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: bottom of that. Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, was with
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: US at seven o five this morning, and I asked
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: him about the Seahawks reported interests in Terry and Arnold.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Well, he has eight sohony charges against him for kidnapping
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: and other charges in Florida that you're right, could put
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: him in prison for his life. My read on this
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: the second this reported visit is the second one. As
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: agent said last month that the Seahawks were one of
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: the teams that Arnold visited. First round pick Talla had
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: a position that is such a premium in this league.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: First it was due diligence, but now if he is
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: indeed visited for a second time, I have to think
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks, John Schneider and their personnel staff have a
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: read on where this is going and believe that he
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: may be exonerated. There's just no way you bring in
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: a guy that you think is about to be suspended
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: or even worse for him, thrown in prison and just
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: play it out till he gets thrown in prison. I
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: don't see that being the case here. So the Seahawks
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: are doing investigations that to me must have led to
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: them believing there is a decent chance that he will
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: be exonerating and they want to be at the front
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: of the line and the inside track if and when
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: that happens. This doesn't on the surface, feel like a
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald acquisition. All this feels like a Pete Carroll
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: reclamation project, right. Carroll wanted to bring everybody on and
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: thought he was person now that he could fix anyone
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: came from anywhere. This doesn't seem like Mike McDonald's cup
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: of tea to me. Again, I frankly know not very
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: much other than what we've all read about the situation
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: in the jurisprudence and the legal process in Florida going on.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: But I have to think the Seahawks have more information
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: before they would make this kind of interest.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell with us earlier in the show today. If
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you want to hear the entire conversation, and there was
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: more on Arnold, you could check that out of ninety
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: three to three kjar dot com as part of our podcast. So, Ashley,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: here are the allegations against Terry and Arnold, and they
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: do not read well. Prosecutors alleged Arnold orchestrated a plot
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to retaliate against three individuals he suspected of stealing from him.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Investigators claim Arnold's associates lured the victim to an apartment,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: where they were beaten, pistol whipped, and held at gunpoint
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: while the attack was allegedly streamed direct to Arnold, who
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: sat in the comfort of his own home and watched
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: all of this go down. While Arnold was not physically
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: present at the apartment during the assault, prosecutors argue he
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: set the events in motion and communicated instructions and then,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: like a warrior, watched it all from the comfort of
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: his own home. Not good.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: No, And I'm actually even surprised that they'd even bring
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: him in because I just wouldn't want to mess with
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: any of that because it sounds like a messy situation.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like anything that's going to be resolved soon,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and I would just want to steer clear of it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: We don't need any distractions or anything. And then if
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you bring him in before anything's been cleared, I mean,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: that isn't going to be a great look, and then
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that's more of a distraction when you're trying to defend
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: a super Bowl championship.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I don't like it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I could see where he could get off,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, we've watched enough
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of these type of movies, and I have a feeling
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: this is what got Terry and Arnold in trouble in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the first place. He's watched too many movies. Yeah, maybe, yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And so we've seen these these where we've seen this
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in life, not just in movies where yeah, he seemed
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to be involved. But do you have anything to make
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the charges stick? I could see very easily where they
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: might not, since he wasn't even there present, and maybe
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you don't have a copy of the tape, or you
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: don't have this or that. Maybe the people that he
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: hired wouldn't throw him under the bus. You might not
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: have a witness. You might not have enough to make
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: these charges stick, especially since they are so aggressive that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: we're talking about if they all stuck, he's never gonna
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: see another day of freedom. So I can see why
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: an organization says they got some inside information, these charges
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: aren't gonna stick. He is gonna be a free man
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and then go from there. But obviously, Ashley, there was
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: some involvement here. Yeah, I mean there's something ugly enough,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like do you really want to be associated with this
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: person in an organization that's on top of the world
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: right now. And one of the reasons that you've not
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: only gotten to the top of the mountain in two
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: short years under Mike McDonald, but one of the main
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: reasons is because you readdressed how you're going to draft,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you put character a lot higher on your list of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: players that you want to draw to Seattle than ever before,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and it's worked like a charm. Why would you mess
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: with that, that recipe at all to bring in a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: cornerback who, by the way, has not exactly taken the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: league by storm in Detroit. I watched plenty of Lions
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: games and he sometimes is more of a detriment on
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the field than he is a benefit on the field,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and also someone that the Lions did not hesitate Ashley.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: They cut him almost immediately because of this, and he
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: has had some behavioral issues with the Lions in the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: past to begin with. So I don't know why you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: would mess with your recipe right now, But make no
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: mistake about it. They are first, I mean, Greg said
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: it like they just want to make sure they're in line.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: If in fact that this is a big, you know,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a big mistake like Terry and Arnold is innocent of this.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: They want to be in the line, and they are
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: at the front of the line for if Terry and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Arnold is a free man going forward, that they've already
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: made their impression on him to bring him here in
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Seattle and help their secondary. I don't like it. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: don't like any of it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I don't again, as I said,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I just don't. Yeah, we don't need that distraction. We're
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: trying to defend a super Bowl championship. That's gonna be
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: hard enough. We've got I mean, just even in our
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: own division, We've got enough stuff to worry about, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: we don't I need someone that will come in and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: just the off the field things that he's dealing with
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: are a bigger distraction.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: That just seems like, as you said, recipe for disaster.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: No thanks. Yeah, I mean anybody in life has been
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: mistaken for somebody that you know, Hey, was that you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that I just saw that ran out of the bank
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like no, I was getting a jump at juice across
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the street. I got a thousand people that can vouch
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: for that, like mistaken identity type thing. That's about the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: only thing where if we found out that it was
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: just total mistaken identity. There was somebody that looked just
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like Terryan Army. Yeah, who was or whose name was
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold? Or he thought he was watching you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: know his uh he thought it was a joke like
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the Michael Douglas movie The game Like he thought they
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: were just scaring them, and then the next thing, you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh my gosh, they're beating those poor people.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Oh this is terrible. Stop this now. Unless it's someone
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: like that, then I don't see why this organization, writing
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: as high as they're writing right now, would be interested
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in this type of character. I don't care how talented
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: he is. You have proven here in a very short
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: period of time that we are going to prioritize things differently.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: We don't want Malik mcdowells anymore, and we don't want
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Terry and Arnolds anymore. We don't even want Jamal Adams
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't a criminal, but we don't even want
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: an attitude like Jamal Adams around the facility anymore. So
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: why don't we just say, Hey, Taryan, I hope that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you don't You're not nearly as guilty as you look
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: right now, and I hope for your sake that if
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you are innocent, that you don't spend any time behind bars.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Other than that, it's been nice to meet you. We'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: continue with our Super Bowl Championship thing we've got going
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: here right now.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just say that, write a letter.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: And honestly, I.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Don't blame the team for doing their due diligence and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: checking it out, but I think you could have probably
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: done a lot of research and found out what's going
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: on without having him out for multiple visits. I think
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: you could have done I mean, just looked at the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: charges and talked to his representation and talk to various
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: people without ever even having them out for two visits.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Two visits seems weird. Yeah, I doing your due diligence,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: kicking the tires, doing your investigation, meeting him once, hearing
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: his side of the story that I guess I can
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: go with, but for them to be at the front
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: of the line in case there's a in case there's
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a loophole that yeah, no, the guilty Terry and Arnold
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: isn't going to be charged. So he's just too much
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: of a talent to pass up. That I don't want
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: anything to do with. And I don't think that they
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: should have anything more to do with him either. All right,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: coming up next on the program, speaking of the talk
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: of camp, there are talks of camp everywhere. We're getting
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: ready for the preseason week People are now starting to,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: you know, dissect their fantasy football plan for this upcoming year.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And there are a lot of really interesting stories that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: came out over the weekend that are declaring who the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: talks of camp are in other NFL camps. So we're
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: gonna spend some time on that this morning Sports Radio
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM. Ooh Bow.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: How about love Love Love Love, I love us give
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently it's not just the Seahawks giving people something
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to talk about.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Everybody across the league loves giving people something to talk about.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I don't blame them.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna take a look at some of
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the chatter going on around the national football you know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: people are starting to put together there, you know, formulate
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: their game plans for fantasy football. They're always looking for
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a nugget or two. Maybe I'm making a mistake by
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: giving Ashley this information for this upcoming season, but nonetheless,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I feel that you the listener is owed some chatter
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: from across the National Football League in case you haven't
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: seen it yourself. Number one, I'm gonna start with something
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that I mentioned last week, the talk of all NFL camps,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the talk like the guy creating the most buzz per
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: his camp for his team is a rookie out of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the University of Washington by the name of Denzel Boston.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Denzel Boston and the Cleveland is blowing everyone's minds in Cleveland.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, this is Cleveland and they've never
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: really seen good football. They don't might not be able
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to tell if that's good or no, they don't know. Yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I mean they thought Deshaun Watson was going to be
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: a great decision for them, So you know, keep in
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: mind this is this think about where this is coming from.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But apparently Denzel Boston's not only the best receiver in camp,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: including against many veterans, it's not even close. So nice
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: first impression for the Washington product. Another talk of camp
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaren, and for bad reasons, Terry McLaren has apparently
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: requested a trade from the Washington Commanders. Now you can
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Google search Terry McLaren right now. Which I did and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: look for the latest news on Terry McLaren, and part
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of it is what a great camp he's having. He's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: gonna have a big season this year. He's finally healthy,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: which he wasn't for parts of the last two seasons.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And Daniels is healthy, which hasn't been for parts of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the last two seasons. And so part, like half of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the Terry McLaren stories which make him talk of Camp
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and Washington is how good he looks and how he
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and Jayden Daniels could have a breakout season. And then
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you see these other words. He's like,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I went out of here. This thing is not going
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: in the right direction. And so this is a team
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: that two years ago was a big breakthrough, but they
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: did that with a bunch of guys in their thirties,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and then last year they realized, gosh, we're old, we
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: are really old, and we are not very good and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: if Jaden Daniels doesn't stay healthy, we are really screwed,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: which is what happened to them a year ago. And
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: maybe Terry McLaren has seen that riding on the wall.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: He is a very talented receiver. My goodness, can he
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: make some plays, but he apparently looks great, and yet
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: his mindset is I don't think I want to be here.
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  Speaker 1: That's a talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is yeah, what a flip there, that's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You think he'd be like, no, you know what. Last
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: year was a let's get back at it now.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: From a fantasy perspective, like, one of the biggest changes
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of the offseason is Mike McDaniel becoming the offensive coordinator
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: for Jim Harbaugh's Los Angeles Chargers, and the expectation is
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that they're going to take some heat off of Justin
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Herbert because Mike McDaniel loves to run the football. Yeah,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Miami threw the ball around with two a couple of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: years ago, but they also had Mostert and eight Chan
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and that was a big part of their offense. McDaniel
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  Speaker 1: loves to run the football, and they just spent a
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: first round pick on o'mari and Hampton a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: Another guy that spent most of the season injured a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: year ago, but some really smart people got him back
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  Speaker 1: in time for the playoffs and won a championship in
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: their fantasy league. I don't want to say who that, yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: but I've I've heard that it's happened, So waiting on
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: o'mari and Hampton to get back it's actually of benefit.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Then the off season of guys like Dave Richards saying,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you know, offensive change, he could be highlighted second season
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  Speaker 1: in the league. Rookies from their first year to their
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: second year, that's usually the biggest amount of improvement that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a football player shows. So there was already this feeling
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that Omarion Hampton was going to be somebody to keep
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: your eye on. As a talk of camp. Then McDaniel
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: himself says that he is the most improved football player
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: from the tape he watched a year ago to what
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: he's seeing on the field right now with the organization.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: So the Hampton hype train is underway, and you may
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: want Dad not to get that information if he's in
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: your fantasy league with you or vice versa. You sure
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: hope Son didn't hear that report on the Chuck program
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: here today. But Omarion Hampton is creating a lot of
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: buzz at Chargers camp. Same thing for rookie Caleb Downs
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: with Dallas. I heard some people say over the weekend,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and he might be the best defensive player on the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Cowboys team. And he's a rookie. For goodness sake. The
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: hype that Burden and Loveland are creating Luther Burdon and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Colston Loveland with the Bears is real, even though it
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: looks like Burden's gonna miss the preseason with injury, so
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that could be a setback for him. And then, finally,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: very interesting how these general managers are sort of operating
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: these days with holdouts. They really don't care. It doesn't
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: seem like it, right, Yeah, they really don't care. They
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: are really just banking on the fact that there's no
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: way you're gonna miss practice. Fine, there's no way you're
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: gonna miss any games. You're not gonna miss those paychecks.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: And so we've had two organizations right now dealing with this,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Tampa with Vitavea Arizona with Josh Sweat, and both of
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the organizations, when asked about it, are being very blunt
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: about it. Mike, the new head coach of the Arizona Cardinals,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: set of Josh Sweat's absence, not worried about it one bit.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I mean think about saying that, like one of your
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: better players, and you're like, no, not worried about it
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: at all. He'll be here. He'll be here on opening day,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: don't not worried about it. And then Tampa is like,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: what about Betabaya? He's ours and we're not trading them.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: There's no way we're going to trade him. He's too
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: valuable to our team. I guess he's going to miss
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: some practices, but we're not trading him. Like they are
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: just being like glib about it, and it's a I
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: think it's kind of refreshing. I mean, if I were
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines hoping that the team was getting
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: nervous and you know about me not playing, if I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: was sitting over there on the sidelines, I don't want
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to hear my head coach or GM saying not worried
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: about it one bit, he'll be here.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: No, that would be the opposite, right, But and who knows.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe when they go behind closed doors, they're like, oh gosh,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we put on a brave face.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Do you think he's coming back? Maybe?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter what happens behind closed doors, because
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: it's the public facing thing you're doing, and you're saying
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: like we've got all the power, we don't care.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I want to hear that either
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: they are worried about it, and we're gonna work on it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: We're gonna keep working on it. Or that they're thinking
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: about or they're threatening to trade me. That's different than
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. He's ours and we will not
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: trade him whatsoever, and we're not giving him a pay
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: raise either, So we'll see him on opening day. That's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: what I don't want to hear like that kind of
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: confidence expressed that they're kind of calling my bluff because
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: they're right. They're right, by the way, even the ones
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that are holding in or holding out, they don't want
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: to miss game days and they don't want to miss
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: game day paychecks. And my guess is that they've got
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the right read on the situation that Dta Veil will
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: show up on opening Day and play hard, and that
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Joshuatt will do the same thing for the Arizona Cardinals.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: All Right, coming up next our last hour, we're gonna
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: pretty much talk about the Mariners. ABC's of the M's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: coming up at nine p thirty. Coming up next, it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: impossible not to play the blame game with this Mariner season,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and so we'll up, we'll update you on our thoughts anyway.
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