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- 0:03Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como esta?
- 0:07Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mike and Bo.
- 0:09Speaker 1: This is my friend, Matt. Clusterf * * k.
- 0:12Speaker 2: This is my friend T-Bone. Still in your head, still dancing,
- 0:17Speaker 2: still living, rent-free in that bitty, bald dome.
- 0:21Speaker 3: You guys are the best.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Pony, pony, pony, pony. They're the best. I love those guys.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Did we ask for your opinion? He actually did.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Oh, did you?
- 0:29Speaker 1: You're listening to the Mack and Bo Show on Mack
- 0:31Speaker 1: and Bo Radio. Good morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard.
- 0:45Speaker 4: It is time to get week one in college football going, baby.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Week zero was an appetizer. It was a hell of
- 0:52Speaker 1: a start.
- 0:52Speaker 4: But five straight days of college football action begins tonight.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Wake Forest in action against Akron. Georgia Tech trying to
- 1:00Speaker 4: represent the ACC against Deion and Colorado. Is he still there?
- 1:07Speaker 4: We don't hear quite as much about him. Then again,
- 1:09Speaker 4: we don't hear about any coach other than Lane Kiffin
- 1:12Speaker 4: and maybe Dabo this week. We'll talk about those two gentlemen.
- 1:15Speaker 4: It gets even juicier. It gets even juicier. The off-the-field
- 1:20Speaker 4: drama leading up to LSU and Clemson. We will talk
- 1:23Speaker 4: all about that this hour on the show. We've got
- 1:27Speaker 4: to talk Panthers offense on today's radio show, including T-Mac
- 1:32Speaker 4: again talking about how much better he feels physically this
- 1:35Speaker 4: year than last year. um if he didn't feel right
- 1:39Speaker 4: physically last year you couldn't tell so uh man what's
- 1:42Speaker 4: he gonna do this year we'll talk about it here
- 1:44Speaker 4: today on the mac and bone shows we celebrate football
- 1:49Speaker 4: arriving week one of college football and the panthers it'll
- 1:52Speaker 4: be here before you know it heck we're inside a
- 1:54Speaker 4: week to the first nfl game so we got things
- 1:56Speaker 4: happening here we've got the bone man we've got the
- 1:59Speaker 4: fit dog and most importantly we have you out there
- 2:03Speaker 4: hanging with us Today on this radio show, we're also
- 2:05Speaker 4: going to talk, Bone, to a Duke man on today's show,
- 2:10Speaker 4: Aaron Hull. We'll congratulate him on making the Panther roster
- 2:15Speaker 4: as an undrafted free agent.
- 2:17Speaker 2: He joins us at 745. Are you bringing that back today, Bone?
- 2:22Speaker 2: That's a shame. We don't often bring stuff back. By
- 2:25Speaker 2: the way, good morning to you, Bro Gibbs. Okay, you're
- 2:28Speaker 2: bringing that back, too. Oh, it's never going away. That's
- 2:31Speaker 2: not going to wait until someone says, that pit's getting.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Old, man.
- 2:33Speaker 2: We're going to ride that thing off until probably next week.
- 2:37Speaker 2: You even had Walker Mayles spitballing, trying to help you. Oh,
- 2:40Speaker 2: he came up with some doozies.
- 2:41Speaker 1: With some more names.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Oh, he came up with some. I got bad news
- 2:44Speaker 4: for people here that listened at the start of the show.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Bone could probably go all football season with these goofy names.
- 2:49Speaker 2: We right now are 67 deep, bro Gibbs. And then
- 2:54Speaker 2: there's some in there that you even said, yeah, it's
- 2:57Speaker 2: probably one you want to wait until the very end with.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Yeah, some are stronger than others.
- 3:01Speaker 2: I'll say right now, I was very proud, and Walker
- 3:04Speaker 2: and you made fun of the one where I was
- 3:06Speaker 2: going to say, good morning to you, Tom Brokaw. And
- 3:09Speaker 2: you both pointed out that's literally his name. Yeah, you
- 3:11Speaker 2: just repeat the guy's name. Good morning, Tom Bro Call. See,
- 3:16Speaker 2: you got to say it differently. I'm still proud of
- 3:18Speaker 2: my Bro Bro Trader.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I did not get much positive feedback yesterday on that.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I will say. But I'm still feeling good about that.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Blessed to be here. Thank you for inviting me. And
- 3:30Speaker 2: thank you for the listeners for inviting us into their ears.
- 3:34Speaker 2: I am lucky to be here today. Woke up with
- 3:37Speaker 2: a vicious leg cramp. That's why I was limping all
- 3:40Speaker 2: over the place. One of those ones that when you stretch.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Oh, my God. The heart that you show when it's stretching,
- 3:44Speaker 1: it lingers. Oh, my gracious.
- 3:46Speaker 2: It's still 50s had this before when it lingers for
- 3:49Speaker 2: a while.
- 3:49Speaker 1: It's still going.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Then I I had a whole situation today where I
- 3:53Speaker 2: had to get gas and I. I passed by my
- 3:56Speaker 2: normal gas station, so I had to go to an
- 3:58Speaker 2: unknown territory of exit 25. First of all, I didn't
- 4:03Speaker 2: go to the Handy Mart, which is where I normally go,
- 4:05Speaker 2: so I passed by the Handy Mart. Then I ended
- 4:08Speaker 2: up going all the way to exit number 25 in Huntersville.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Then for some reason, instead of going 77, this is
- 4:14Speaker 2: a crazy story, instead of going 77 south, I went
- 4:17Speaker 2: 77 north and didn't realize it until I passed back
- 4:21Speaker 2: by my exit where I live. How did you go
- 4:24Speaker 2: the wrong way on a highway you drive on every day?
- 4:27Speaker 1: What happened there? How does that occur? I don't know.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I guess because I'm used to, when I go to
- 4:31Speaker 2: exit 25, getting on north to go back the other
- 4:33Speaker 2: way and not the other way. And it was dark out,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and I couldn't see that well.
- 4:39Speaker 4: You have a rough time starting your day sometimes. There's
- 4:42Speaker 4: a lot of follies that happen very early to you.
- 4:43Speaker 4: And also, I was very distracted because I sent you
- 4:46Speaker 4: and Tara Masu. A funny meme of Murphy wearing LSU gear.
- 4:51Speaker 4: You created that yourself?
- 4:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:53Speaker 1: And then I sent it to you, and I was like,
- 4:55Speaker 1: Mac's going to laugh at this.
- 4:56Speaker 2: And then I kind of got completely distracted. That's why
- 4:59Speaker 2: I missed the Handy Mart. Okay, there you go, ladies
- 5:02Speaker 2: and gentlemen. You never want to miss the Handy Mart.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Look at Finney laughing at the Handy Mart. Never want
- 5:05Speaker 2: to miss the Handy Mart. It's H-A-N-D-E-E. It's called the
- 5:11Speaker 2: Handy Mart. That's a funny name.
- 5:12Speaker 4: That's a very funny name for a place. I spent
- 5:14Speaker 4: a lot of time at the Handy Mart. Well, it's amazing.
- 5:16Speaker 4: Leg cramps, driving the wrong way, handy marks.
- 5:19Speaker 1: What a morning. What a morning, Bone. Blessed. What's the
- 5:23Speaker 1: Army saying?
- 5:24Speaker 4: We do more before whatever time than most people do
- 5:28Speaker 4: all day. Bone has more silly stuff in his life
- 5:32Speaker 4: before 6 a.m.
- 5:34Speaker 2: That most people have all day. All because I tried
- 5:37Speaker 2: to make Mac laugh by putting Murphy in a football outfit.
- 5:39Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. That's what happened there. We need to mention, Bone,
- 5:44Speaker 4: the Hurricanes TV deal. We are opening the show with
- 5:47Speaker 4: this because we actually had a couple of texters the
- 5:51Speaker 4: other day asking about this. We know the Hornets are
- 5:55Speaker 4: on WSOC TV here in Charlotte for local coverage. That
- 6:00Speaker 4: is the ideal situation on over-the-air television. It won't be
- 6:05Speaker 4: so simple for the Hurricanes. Yesterday, the NFL announced that
- 6:10Speaker 4: six teams, including the Canes, will stream their games, the
- 6:15Speaker 4: local games. There will still be the national games that
- 6:17Speaker 4: are national games and aren't affected by this. But the
- 6:20Speaker 4: games that you need local coverage for that would be
- 6:22Speaker 4: on the now-deceased Hurricanes. fan tool, TV network. It will
- 6:27Speaker 4: now stream on Amazon Prime. You do not need Amazon
- 6:33Speaker 4: Prime in order to order this, but this is going
- 6:35Speaker 4: to cost $ 19. 99 a month or $ 99. 99 annually.
- 6:41Speaker 1: I can hear the grumbling right now.
- 6:43Speaker 4: People are like, oh, great, something else I have to
- 6:46Speaker 4: spend to watch sports I was watching before without spending
- 6:50Speaker 4: anything other than my cable bill. Um, so, uh, that
- 6:56Speaker 4: is the deal there. They are trying to get on
- 6:58Speaker 4: cable and satellite subscribers, but of course, you know how
- 7:01Speaker 4: that works, Bone. There's no guarantees they'll get on yours specifically. Um,
- 7:06Speaker 4: so anyway, uh, that's the news there, Bone Man. And
- 7:10Speaker 4: Caniac Mac has to decide. What month he starts paying
- 7:15Speaker 4: for the Canes games.
- 7:16Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 7:17Speaker 4: Because I don't know if you know, but Caniac probably
- 7:20Speaker 4: doesn't need to go $ 19.
- 7:22Speaker 2: 99 right off the rip here. You need the special
- 7:25Speaker 2: Chris McLean package. The season opener. If it wasn't this year,
- 7:28Speaker 2: it's on national.
- 7:29Speaker 5: It is.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Usually you like to check out the Maniscalco and Tripp
- 7:33Speaker 2: and Hannah. So you can get one game early. Then
- 7:36Speaker 2: you'll check back in about mid-season, see what's going on.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Then you'll do a playoff check-in. Can you do like
- 7:41Speaker 2: a three- or four-game pre-playoff package? How much would that
- 7:45Speaker 2: cost you, Mac? That's about all I need. Can you
- 7:47Speaker 2: cater it specifically to an individual? I would like that.
- 7:51Speaker 1: I really would.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Mac, I will say this, and this affects you also.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I've been using, not that I love it, but I've
- 7:57Speaker 2: been using YouTube.
- 7:58Speaker 1: I love YouTube TV.
- 7:59Speaker 2: I don't love the fact that for a couple years
- 8:01Speaker 2: now I've had YouTube TV and direct TV stream because
- 8:05Speaker 2: direct TV stream has had the fan dual networks on
- 8:07Speaker 2: their Hornets, Braves, Canes. They have been on direct TV,
- 8:11Speaker 2: but I do love the setup of the multi-view of
- 8:13Speaker 2: YouTube TV.
- 8:14Speaker 1: It's a better, Oh, you could boot direct TV now.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Couldn't you? I'm thinking like, but what about you though, Matt?
- 8:18Speaker 2: Because Hornets are now going to be on YouTube TV
- 8:21Speaker 2: on SOC. The, the, the Canes are on their own thing.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Braves vision will be the only reason right now, right?
- 8:28Speaker 2: To keep, DirecTV stream. Everything else you can now no longer...
- 8:31Speaker 2: Is Braze Vision on YouTube?
- 8:33Speaker 1: No.
- 8:33Speaker 2: No, that's the only one. But everything else now, I
- 8:36Speaker 2: don't think I need both anymore.
- 8:37Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest. I think I'm a solo
- 8:39Speaker 4: man now. I'm going to be honest with you, Bone. Yeah,
- 8:42Speaker 4: I think you probably can boot all DirecTV there. I'm
- 8:45Speaker 4: going to be honest with you. We need to be
- 8:47Speaker 4: able to watch so much of this stuff so we
- 8:50Speaker 4: can talk in a semi-educated.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Fashion on the air.
- 8:54Speaker 4: If I was just a sports fan, there would be
- 8:58Speaker 4: so much of this stuff that is new costs that
- 9:00Speaker 4: I would say to hell with it.
- 9:02Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Just like point blank period. Like there's a lot of
- 9:06Speaker 4: stuff that I would be. And I'm not saying, oh,
- 9:08Speaker 4: the Canes, it's an outrage. If you're a big Canes fan,
- 9:12Speaker 4: I'm sure it's going to be worth the money. But
- 9:14Speaker 4: it's like there's something to be said, Bone, for the
- 9:17Speaker 4: concept of cable, as annoying as cable can be, where
- 9:22Speaker 4: everything I want to watch is there. There's something to
- 9:25Speaker 4: be said for that. Rather than, oh, now, but I
- 9:28Speaker 4: watched this. I used to get this on my cable. Well,
- 9:30Speaker 4: now you've got to pay for this separately, and then
- 9:32Speaker 4: you've got to pay for that. I don't blame sports fans.
- 9:36Speaker 4: I mean, it's just kind of what we have to do.
- 9:39Speaker 1: But you understand what I'm saying?
- 9:40Speaker 4: No, 100%.
- 9:40Speaker 1: For sports fans, it's like, really?
- 9:43Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Now that's an extra investment? No, a thousand percent. ESPN Unlimited,
- 9:50Speaker 2: which was ESPN Plus, is now part of YouTube TV
- 9:55Speaker 2: if you pay for that. So you can now get
- 9:56Speaker 2: that on one platform, which helps out of the... skipping
- 10:00Speaker 2: around a little bit. So that helps on that end
- 10:02Speaker 2: of it. Now, the scary part, Mike, I'm saying, hey.
- 10:05Speaker 1: We only need one.
- 10:06Speaker 2: But don't forget, we're also always one day away from
- 10:10Speaker 2: YouTube TV losing something. and DirecTV having something. So there
- 10:14Speaker 2: could be a dispute of some sort. That's always a possibility.
- 10:17Speaker 2: So that's the scary part. YouTube TV right now looks
- 10:20Speaker 2: like it's got it all for the most part, but
- 10:22Speaker 2: there could always be a dispute or they lose something,
- 10:25Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden DirecTV has two more
- 10:27Speaker 2: things that you would need.
- 10:29Speaker 4: Right now I'm rooting for DirecTV to get the Canes TV.
- 10:33Speaker 4: I'm rooting for that to be one of the satellite
- 10:36Speaker 4: cable setups that get the canes. But again, it's not guaranteed.
- 10:40Speaker 4: They are going to strike deals, Bone, like the Braves
- 10:43Speaker 4: did with Braves Vision, where maybe it'll come to your
- 10:47Speaker 4: cable or satellite provider, but we don't know that for sure.
- 10:50Speaker 2: So that is still unknown. No wonder Bone likes multi-view.
- 10:53Speaker 2: He can watch all his teams at once.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. It's not the case.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I like to watch a bunch of different things on
- 10:57Speaker 2: my own teams. The Bone team multi-view. I don't even
- 11:00Speaker 2: think they have enough for that. I don't think four
- 11:02Speaker 2: is enough.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Well, to be honest. That's why he has two screens.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Yeah, because I can go eight deep. I can go
- 11:07Speaker 2: four here, four there. That's what you need, man. I
- 11:10Speaker 2: think that's what you need. Unless Tara Masu is watching
- 11:12Speaker 2: one of her shows.
- 11:13Speaker 1: So there you go.
- 11:14Speaker 4: That is the latest right there on the Canes TV situation.
- 11:19Speaker 4: I guess we'll just have to sit here and patiently wait.
- 11:22Speaker 4: and see which other providers they end up hooking up with.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Gator Rube. We love Gator Rube, but he's a Dolphins fan, right? Yeah.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Gator Rube just paid for Sunday ticket. I guess that's
- 11:33Speaker 2: to watch his Dolphins.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Oh, Lord Almighty. You've been there before, though, haven't you?
- 11:37Speaker 1: Gator Rube, yeah.
- 11:38Speaker 2: In the past, buying Sunday Ticket to watch crappy teams.
- 11:41Speaker 2: And Sunday Ticket, that got up to, you know it.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Sunday Ticket got up to what? I don't know what
- 11:45Speaker 2: it is now because I just watch Red Zone and Panthers.
- 11:47Speaker 2: I don't need all the other stuff.
- 11:49Speaker 1: $ 400 plus?
- 11:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:49Speaker 2: I was paying $ 400 a year to watch the Jets
- 11:51Speaker 2: win Maybe three or four games. What's that per win?
- 12:00Speaker 1: And Rube might be paying the same per win rate
- 12:02Speaker 1: this season. It's very possible.
- 12:05Speaker 4: Rube, man, you've got to drop the Dolphins, man. It's
- 12:07Speaker 4: very possible. How about this big news out of the NBA, Bone?
- 12:11Speaker 4: The Clippers getting hammered by the NBA. Man, Adam Silver
- 12:17Speaker 4: stepped up on this one. So much for that ESPN report, Bone,
- 12:20Speaker 4: a month ago that said that they have not– remember,
- 12:23Speaker 4: it made it seem like there wasn't anything there?
- 12:26Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:28Speaker 4: And so much for that report from ESPN, because the
- 12:31Speaker 4: Clippers are being fined $ 30 million. They're losing five first-round
- 12:35Speaker 4: draft picks starting in 2029 and beyond. Owner Steve Ballmer
- 12:41Speaker 4: suspended a year. Other executive suspended for.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Long term periods of time for salary cap circumvention.
- 12:50Speaker 1: This is the whole Kawhi Leonard thing.
- 12:52Speaker 4: This is the thing that Pablo Torre discovered, Bone, with
- 12:55Speaker 4: the company Aspiration, where the Clippers were basically the NBA
- 13:00Speaker 4: has basically found that, hey, the Clippers were setting up
- 13:03Speaker 4: Kawhi with companies they did business with. for him to
- 13:08Speaker 4: get deals with them. That is a no-no. Now, the
- 13:12Speaker 4: Clippers are going to fight this. They put out a
- 13:15Speaker 4: statement saying, we vehemently reject the NBA's findings, which are
- 13:19Speaker 4: a result of a heavily biased investigation seeking to justify
- 13:23Speaker 4: a predetermined narrative rather than facts and evidence. What the
- 13:28Speaker 4: league told us privately differs from what it announced publicly,
- 13:32Speaker 4: and they have not held themselves accountable close to the
- 13:36Speaker 4: standard Commissioner Silver set at the start of the investigation.
- 13:40Speaker 4: So I don't know. There'll be a legal fight here.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Shocking, Bone. There might be some lawyers and a court involved.
- 13:46Speaker 2: You saw the tweet, Mac, from Dan Wetzel last night
- 13:48Speaker 2: that we shared to each other, and then we were
- 13:50Speaker 2: going to read it on the air. We will right now.
- 13:52Speaker 2: One of the craziest things we've ever seen is in
- 13:55Speaker 2: total how much Kawhi Leonard has actually cost the Clippers
- 13:59Speaker 2: from the signing and the getting Kawhi then to what
- 14:05Speaker 2: it is now. Mack, he cost them first rounders in 21, 22,
- 14:08Speaker 2: two first rounders in 23. First rounder at 24, 25, 26, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Shea Gilgis-Alexander, Danilo Gallinari, $ 30 million in fine. Steve Ballmer
- 14:26Speaker 2: gone for a year. Lawrence Frank gone for a year.
- 14:29Speaker 2: One of their execs, Gillian Zucker, gone for a year.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Leonard Average, 47 games a year and 70 years with
- 14:36Speaker 2: the Clippers.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Seriously. 12 first rounders.
- 14:39Speaker 2: SGA, $ 30 million in fines, and their whole leadership front
- 14:44Speaker 2: is now gone for a year.
- 14:45Speaker 1: And oh, by the way... All that for what?
- 14:47Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, you also had to pay him
- 14:48Speaker 2: his salary, never mind just the $ 30 million in fines,
- 14:52Speaker 2: all for a guy, Mac, that was starting your fake
- 14:54Speaker 2: landscaping company.
- 14:56Speaker 5: What?
- 14:56Speaker 7: I mean.
- 14:57Speaker 1: For what, too? For what?
- 15:00Speaker 4: You know, didn't make the playoffs last year, three straight
- 15:02Speaker 4: first-round exits before that. Didn't make the playoffs the year
- 15:05Speaker 4: before that. Didn't make the Western Conference Finals and the
- 15:08Speaker 4: Western Conference Semis.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Could you imagine if the Hornets were involved in this
- 15:11Speaker 2: and we're trying to figure out how one guy costs
- 15:13Speaker 2: 12 first-rounders, SGA, $ 30 million, and the entire front office?
- 15:17Speaker 4: That's brutal, man. That is brutal. Now, Kawhi seems like
- 15:22Speaker 4: he'll be fine. Sounds like the deal to Toronto is
- 15:25Speaker 4: going to go through, so it sounds like he's going
- 15:27Speaker 4: to get to go back to Toronto. The only thing
- 15:29Speaker 4: happening to him is he has to basically repay or
- 15:33Speaker 4: pay the NBA $ 700, 000. He put out a statement that
- 15:38Speaker 4: was cracking me up, by the way. I accept full
- 15:42Speaker 4: responsibility for the lapses in judgment of my inner circle.
- 15:47Speaker 4: I don't think that's full responsibility there. So he is
- 15:53Speaker 4: saying it was his uncle, I think, is his agent.
- 15:56Speaker 4: He's saying it was his team. So is he claiming
- 15:59Speaker 4: he had no idea that this was funny business? Yeah,
- 16:03Speaker 4: I think so. That's what he's trying to claim is
- 16:06Speaker 4: I didn't realize this was a violation.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I thought it was fine.
- 16:09Speaker 4: The old play dumb thing, like a college coach does
- 16:11Speaker 4: when they get in trouble. I didn't know anything about.
- 16:14Speaker 1: This, man. I didn't want to know anything about it.
- 16:17Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 16:17Speaker 4: Like a driver, when the crew chief cheats on the
- 16:20Speaker 4: car and a driver, I didn't know anything.
- 16:22Speaker 1: I told them not to tell me what they're doing
- 16:24Speaker 1: to the car. It feels like that. You're exactly right.
- 16:27Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 16:28Speaker 2: But this is mammoth, dude. No, this is the biggest.
- 16:31Speaker 2: The Clippers are basically done. And not that the Clippers
- 16:34Speaker 2: are very much alive normally, but the Clippers are done
- 16:36Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future. With that many picks lost, the
- 16:39Speaker 2: whole regime has to sit out for a while.
- 16:43Speaker 1: No one's going to want to. play there with this
- 16:45Speaker 1: mess right now.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Matt, do you think that when Toronto goes and visits
- 16:49Speaker 2: the Clippers, they're going to do a Kawhi Leonard tribute
- 16:51Speaker 2: video on the video board? Ladies and gentlemen, please turn
- 16:55Speaker 2: your attention to the video board for.
- 16:58Speaker 2: And oh, do Kawhi Leonard. All it's going to be
- 17:01Speaker 2: is all that he took away from that. It's going
- 17:02Speaker 2: to be him sitting on the bench injured. That's what
- 17:04Speaker 2: it's going to be. And then it's going to be
- 17:06Speaker 2: him signing his contract with the company to circumvent the gap. AI, hey,
- 17:09Speaker 2: with a landscaping truck.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. So anyway, that's a mess for the Clippers.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Better them than us. Jonathan Brooks still out of practice yesterday.
- 17:20Speaker 4: Going to try to not. overreact bone because we don't
- 17:24Speaker 4: know anything all we know is soreness dave canalis has
- 17:28Speaker 4: not even specified where the soreness is we just all
- 17:32Speaker 4: worry that it's the twice surgically repaired knee we don't
- 17:35Speaker 4: know he was working with the trainers on the side
- 17:37Speaker 4: yesterday he was on the exercise bike yesterday and dave
- 17:42Speaker 4: canalis again said yesterday that basically we'll give you information
- 17:47Speaker 4: when we have to And when they have to give information, Bone,
- 17:50Speaker 4: is next Wednesday when the first injury report goes out.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Joe Person tried to calm the waters yesterday.
- 17:55Speaker 5: He did.
- 17:55Speaker 1: He did.
- 17:56Speaker 2: By taking a little bit of a guess that the
- 17:58Speaker 2: work rate was larger for Brooks than they anticipated at
- 18:02Speaker 2: this point because Chuba had been out. So he thought
- 18:05Speaker 2: they were just trying to maybe... Give him a few
- 18:07Speaker 2: days there to sort of rest himself.
- 18:09Speaker 1: He did.
- 18:10Speaker 4: And hopefully that's correct, Boney. Hopefully that is correct. Chuba
- 18:13Speaker 4: is back at practice now. So we'll see.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Again, it's literally six days until we really get a
- 18:19Speaker 2: straight answer in terms of. Okay, what's his status on
- 18:23Speaker 2: the injury report? Is he practicing? All that sort of stuff.
- 18:27Speaker 2: The boys will practice today, and then they'll get a
- 18:29Speaker 2: three-day weekend before what Dave Canales.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Calls Bonus Monday!
- 18:36Speaker 4: That's what he calls next Monday's practice bone because it's
- 18:39Speaker 4: an extra practice. They have essentially an extra practice next
- 18:42Speaker 4: week than they normally would have. in-season coming off a game.
- 18:46Speaker 4: I also want to mention, Bone, that the Braves took
- 18:49Speaker 4: it to Washington yesterday. 9-0 win over the Nationals. You
- 18:56Speaker 4: had Murphy hitting a homer. He hit a three-run homer.
- 19:00Speaker 4: Acuna three-run homer yesterday. So the Braves took care of business.
- 19:06Speaker 4: Acuna fastest to 200 homers and 200 steals.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Despite the injuries. Still the fastest to those two numbers.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Yeah, for a guy that's missed so much time, and
- 19:18Speaker 2: even when he's been back at times, hasn't been himself.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Although I guess the fastest is by games played. You
- 19:23Speaker 4: know what I mean? So it's not, you know what
- 19:25Speaker 4: I mean? So the injuries still aren't fast. But hell yeah,
- 19:27Speaker 4: it is impressive. This is the stretch we talked about
- 19:30Speaker 4: for the Braves coming up. It's the Phillies and Philly
- 19:32Speaker 4: for four this weekend. Then Tampa for three. Phillies again
- 19:36Speaker 4: for three. And then the Cubs for three. So this
- 19:40Speaker 4: September stretch here, very difficult for the Braves. But as
- 19:43Speaker 4: we've said before, it feels like when they're playing against
- 19:46Speaker 4: some of the best teams, that may be when they
- 19:48Speaker 4: do play their best either.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Dodgers series not long ago.
- 19:52Speaker 2: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
- 19:54Speaker 2: radio program, LSU and Clemson game has gotten even juicier.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is now being accused of helping Dabo bust
- 20:04Speaker 2: LSU for tampering. We've got reports on how Lane feels
- 20:08Speaker 2: about Dabo. And the UNC media love continues to roll in.
- 20:13Speaker 1: You'll like to see it, 50. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 20:32Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mac and Bone with you. Week
- 20:37Speaker 4: one of college football gets going tonight. We get a
- 20:40Speaker 4: chance to see Gio Lopez. for his second Tobacco Road
- 20:45Speaker 4: team in as many years. Does team up with his
- 20:48Speaker 4: former O.C.
- 20:49Speaker 2: From South Alabama, who actually has an offense bone that
- 20:52Speaker 2: fits his skill set. That is a novel concept that
- 20:55Speaker 2: was not thought of in UNC. But anyway, UNC's the
- 20:58Speaker 2: darlings of the media right now after that win.
- 21:00Speaker 1: So I don't want to spoil that.
- 21:03Speaker 4: UNC and State off this week after playing in Week 0.
- 21:07Speaker 4: But we've got everybody else getting going. And at 7 o'clock, Bone,
- 21:11Speaker 4: we will have our final... conversation about fan expectations of
- 21:17Speaker 4: all the fan bases here for teams in the Carolinas.
- 21:21Speaker 4: And then at that point, Bone, it's game preview time tomorrow, man.
- 21:25Speaker 4: We're here, baby.
- 21:26Speaker 2: I do believe tomorrow, Mac. It's snug up on us,
- 21:28Speaker 2: I believe. We're a little more than 24 hours away
- 21:32Speaker 2: from the couch potato guide.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Aren't we?
- 21:33Speaker 2: Oh, it's coming back, man. It's going to be glorious.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I mean, so much stuff to watch while sitting on
- 21:38Speaker 2: your keister. Trying to figure out, Mac, about the weight
- 21:41Speaker 2: game tonight. Where's Akron projected? I do know that they've
- 21:45Speaker 2: been in the news quite a bit, right, because they're
- 21:47Speaker 2: playing Robert Morris, and they're putting out their first drive.
- 21:53Speaker 2: For the fans. Their coaches will actually call the first
- 21:56Speaker 2: drive tonight against Wake.
- 21:57Speaker 1: For better or worse.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Akron, as far as sporting news goes, Akron projected 11th
- 22:03Speaker 2: out of 13 in the MAAC.
- 22:05Speaker 1: So not expected. Not good.
- 22:06Speaker 2: I will say, though, Pittsburgh plays Miami of Ohio on Saturday.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Miami projected to win the MAAC. That could be interesting.
- 22:13Speaker 2: That could be a juicy one. That could be one
- 22:15Speaker 2: that goes into the fourth quarter. You're thinking, how did
- 22:17Speaker 2: this game get so close? Yeah, we're looking for juicy ones.
- 22:19Speaker 4: It's like there are a handful of really juicy week
- 22:24Speaker 4: one games, but we're looking for some other ones that
- 22:28Speaker 4: are juicy. I'm talking about football games over there, Beavis
- 22:30Speaker 4: and Budhead.
- 22:31Speaker 1: No, he did it. He started laughing. And then what
- 22:33Speaker 1: happened to you?
- 22:34Speaker 2: Well, he was he's still laughing at because I said
- 22:37Speaker 2: Andy Martin the first hour. It's not the the greatest
- 22:41Speaker 2: slate of week one action compared to what sometimes week
- 22:45Speaker 2: one is. But I will say, Matt, we say it
- 22:47Speaker 2: all the time. College football is the sport that what
- 22:50Speaker 2: it may look like one day may be completely different
- 22:53Speaker 2: than what actually happens with the games. Sometimes weeks, weeks
- 22:57Speaker 2: look awful. And they turn out to be the weeks
- 22:59Speaker 2: where we go, oh, my God, how did blank lose
- 23:01Speaker 2: the blank or. Something happened here. So that's the greatness
- 23:04Speaker 2: of it. For all the bad of college football we
- 23:06Speaker 2: talk about, the unexpected nature of the sport is what
- 23:10Speaker 2: we often see on Saturday.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Speaking of the unexpected nature of the sport, how about
- 23:13Speaker 4: Gardner-Webb firing their first year head coach, Chris McCullough, after
- 23:18Speaker 4: one game? And it has not... Don't get me wrong.
- 23:22Speaker 4: That sounds misleading. That sounds like, how bad was the game? No,
- 23:26Speaker 4: this is an off-the-field situation. I know there's been a
- 23:29Speaker 4: lot of talk out there about what it could be.
- 23:32Speaker 4: We're just going to leave it at that. Off-the-field situation, Bone.
- 23:35Speaker 4: But it can't be good to get you fired after
- 23:39Speaker 4: just one game of coaching a program. That is so
- 23:41Speaker 4: far from ideal for Gardner-Webb, man.
- 23:44Speaker 1: No, no. That might.
- 23:46Speaker 2: That's not a record, right? Because Mike Price, what was
- 23:50Speaker 2: the Mike Price situation, Matt? He never even coached a game. Yeah,
- 23:52Speaker 2: so he's got the record for the hire that never...
- 23:56Speaker 2: He's got the record for maybe quickest exit ever in
- 23:59Speaker 2: that regard.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Him and George O'Leary. Didn't George O'Leary? Yeah, he lied on.
- 24:03Speaker 2: His resume, right, about Notre Dame. He was going to
- 24:05Speaker 2: Notre Dame, right?
- 24:06Speaker 4: Did he get the job and then also have to
- 24:08Speaker 4: give it up or no? Or did he never get it?
- 24:10Speaker 4: Did he get busted before he got hired? It was
- 24:12Speaker 4: in that same time period, right? Then he ended up
- 24:14Speaker 4: at UCF, right? Yeah, but those are two I can
- 24:17Speaker 4: think of where, you know, very early in a process,
- 24:21Speaker 4: something happens, it's not on the field, and I hope
- 24:24Speaker 4: so much for that.
- 24:26Speaker 2: In 2001, it's right in that same time period, George
- 24:29Speaker 2: O'Leary left Georgia Tech to take over for Notre Dame.
- 24:32Speaker 1: That's what I thought.
- 24:32Speaker 2: However, a few days after he was hired, inaccuracies were
- 24:36Speaker 2: discovered in his... His biography, which had remained more or
- 24:42Speaker 2: less unchanged for two decades, stated that he had earned
- 24:45Speaker 2: three letters in football at New Hampshire. And he actually didn't.
- 24:50Speaker 2: He didn't play one game in football. So he acted
- 24:52Speaker 2: like he played and he didn't.
- 24:54Speaker 4: I feel like at some point as you're coaching Georgia Tech,
- 24:57Speaker 4: you might want to just get that off the resume.
- 24:58Speaker 1: You've already arrived.
- 24:59Speaker 4: You don't need to make it seem like you were
- 25:01Speaker 4: a football player anymore. But anyway, hindsight is 20-20. So, yeah,
- 25:06Speaker 4: Chris McCullough made it way longer, Bone, than Mike Price
- 25:09Speaker 4: and George O'Leary.
- 25:10Speaker 2: We will give him that. I cannot believe all the—
- 25:13Speaker 2: Mike Price was 2003. He got caught with the Destiny Boudreaux.
- 25:20Speaker 2: A dancer at Artie's Angels in Florida. Is she the
- 25:24Speaker 2: niece of Boudreaux Boudreaux?
- 25:27Speaker 1: Your uncle? Possibly. Maybe a cousin of yours, Destiny? She's
- 25:30Speaker 1: cousin Destiny.
- 25:34Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, if you've got a date
- 25:35Speaker 2: with Destiny, fellas, you're going to get yourself in trouble.
- 25:37Speaker 4: By the way. That name is Trouble Bone. Does anybody
- 25:43Speaker 4: actually find a soulmate named Destiny? Does anybody actually dabble
- 25:47Speaker 4: with a woman named Destiny? And, oh, my God, she's
- 25:49Speaker 4: the mother of my children and we live happily ever after.
- 25:51Speaker 1: I don't know. Or a cousin.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Maybe I'm being rude to destinies. Or karma and destiny.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Those are three names that, you know, you got to
- 25:59Speaker 2: be careful with.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
- 26:01Speaker 4: We got to talk about the layers of drama that
- 26:04Speaker 4: are being added to this LSU and Clemson game.
- 26:09Speaker 1: There's so many of them.
- 26:10Speaker 4: And we are like, yesterday, I found out about two
- 26:13Speaker 4: more layers of drama that on top of what's going
- 26:17Speaker 4: on with Lane and the fact that that Louisiana court
- 26:20Speaker 4: case bone is going to issue some sort of temporary
- 26:23Speaker 4: ruling today that it'll either allow them to be eligible
- 26:27Speaker 4: as of Saturday or not as of Saturday. Um, But
- 26:30Speaker 4: then you throw in, first of all, you throw in
- 26:33Speaker 4: the fact that it's the most media request ever for
- 26:35Speaker 4: an LSU football game, the most celebrity request ever for
- 26:39Speaker 4: an LSU football game. I mean, Lane Kiffin makes us interested.
- 26:42Speaker 4: We can say what we want about him. He makes
- 26:45Speaker 4: us interested. And then how about this one, Bone? And
- 26:49Speaker 4: there is so much Lane Kiffin stuff coming out. Because
- 26:54Speaker 4: they're excerpts of John Tulte, the CBS reporter's book, about
- 26:59Speaker 4: Lane being Lane, about Lane Kiffin, which comes out in
- 27:02Speaker 4: the near future. And so there's a couple here that apply.
- 27:06Speaker 4: Tulte says that Lane Kiffin passed along information about Ole
- 27:12Speaker 4: Miss tampering with... at least for a few days, Clemson
- 27:17Speaker 4: linebacker signee Luke Farrelly. Of course, Dabo went berserk in
- 27:21Speaker 4: a press conference, turned him in, and of course, I
- 27:24Speaker 4: don't know about you, I expect nothing to happen to
- 27:28Speaker 4: Ole Miss when it's all said and done.
- 27:29Speaker 1: But anyway, um.
- 27:31Speaker 4: So Tolte says Lane Kiffin is involved, Bone, in getting
- 27:35Speaker 4: them to turn in Ole Miss, getting him to know about.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Pete Golding. I thought he said they're still good. Him
- 27:44Speaker 2: and Lane are still buddies. I don't know about this.
- 27:47Speaker 2: So anyway, remember, LSU Ole Miss. This adds LSU Ole
- 27:51Speaker 2: Miss drama, Bone, in week three. Dabo was asked about
- 27:54Speaker 2: this at his presser. Oh, yeah, it goes further.
- 27:57Speaker 4: Clemson assistant coach Matt Luke, Bone, used to play for
- 28:02Speaker 4: Ole Miss and coach there at Ole Miss. He is
- 28:05Speaker 4: alleged to have told Ole Miss what was going on.
- 28:10Speaker 4: It's a whole soap opera, man. It is juicy as hell.
- 28:15Speaker 4: But this was when Dabo was asked about the rumor
- 28:20Speaker 4: out there that Lane Kiffin, you know, gave you intel
- 28:23Speaker 4: on what Ole Miss was doing and helped to lead
- 28:27Speaker 4: to you turning Ole Miss in for tampering.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Yeah, we had John Talti on. Oh, Dabo.
- 28:35Speaker 3: Here's what I would say about that and be very
- 28:37Speaker 3: clear on that. Lane Kiffin had nothing to do with,
- 28:41Speaker 3: I mean, zero to do with Me turning in the
- 28:45Speaker 3: tampering situation here at Clemson, zero. Lane, after the kid
- 28:51Speaker 3: left and all that, he certainly reached out. I think
- 28:55Speaker 3: they've got some back and forth, obviously, with those two schools. Honestly,
- 29:02Speaker 3: I had a lot of coaches reach out with a
- 29:06Speaker 3: lot of hearsay and stuff like that. I ain't operating
- 29:09Speaker 3: in no hearsay. I don't care what anybody says. I
- 29:11Speaker 3: don't care how anybody runs their program. They can run
- 29:14Speaker 3: their program however they want to run their program. They
- 29:16Speaker 3: can do whatever they want to do. I ain't into
- 29:18Speaker 3: none of that. I got one issue. If you tamper
- 29:21Speaker 3: with my program, I'm going to turn you in. And
- 29:24Speaker 3: it's just that simple. Lane Kiffin had nothing to do
- 29:27Speaker 3: with that. Zero. I was turning that in the moment
- 29:32Speaker 3: he left.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Zero. Zero. I love the way Dabo says zero.
- 29:37Speaker 2: We could see sort of when the week began. where
- 29:40Speaker 2: this was headed with Dabo having to talk a lot
- 29:43Speaker 2: about Blaine. Yeah, I didn't see this storyline, though. And also,
- 29:47Speaker 2: we talked a couple weeks ago to John Talty. about
- 29:49Speaker 2: the various things in college sports. But he also promoted
- 29:53Speaker 2: his book, Mac, and you could see when it comes
- 29:55Speaker 2: out September 15th, the week of Ole Miss LSU, that
- 29:59Speaker 2: there was going to be even more Lane stuff that
- 30:01Speaker 2: came out in addition to all the drama that we're
- 30:04Speaker 2: seeing and talking about. And sure enough, it's already starting
- 30:07Speaker 2: with John Talti's excerpts. out there from the book.
- 30:09Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to save for later in the Random
- 30:15Speaker 4: Crap segment the story from John Tulte's book that involves
- 30:19Speaker 4: Nick Saban, Lane Kiffin, and Alabama sorority girls. We will
- 30:22Speaker 4: save that story for later. I'm telling you right now,
- 30:25Speaker 4: books will be flying. I guess they're probably not even
- 30:28Speaker 4: on shelves anymore. They'll be flying off Amazon, no doubt
- 30:32Speaker 4: about it.
- 30:32Speaker 1: Was Kiffin going full Gottfried on the Alabama campus?
- 30:36Speaker 2: First of all, don't act like you're the slightest bit surprised.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Joey Freshwater.
- 30:43Speaker 2: All right? This is in the Joey Freshwater era when
- 30:46Speaker 2: that was apparently Lane's alias.
- 30:48Speaker 1: But anyway, that's coming up later on Random Crap.
- 30:52Speaker 4: Yes, it's not necessarily things we have not heard before.
- 30:56Speaker 4: But anyway, let's go to another one. John Talty's book
- 30:59Speaker 4: yet again, Bone. Another excerpt. And, man, he is just
- 31:03Speaker 4: firing off excerpts right and left. just to have us
- 31:07Speaker 4: salivating for the rest of the book. He may get
- 31:10Speaker 4: another appearance on this radio show soon. But how about
- 31:12Speaker 4: this one? The book by John Tolte about Lane Kiffin.
- 31:17Speaker 4: Dabo is one of the main guys that Lane would
- 31:20Speaker 4: say is a fraud, and he didn't like that about Dabo,
- 31:23Speaker 4: he told a staffer.
- 31:26Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 31:27Speaker 1: How about that? Add that layer on.
- 31:29Speaker 2: How many layers do we need to make LSU Clemson juicy?
- 31:33Speaker 2: And now Dabo will be asked about that, won't he?
- 31:36Speaker 1: You got called a fraud. Oh, my goodness.
- 31:38Speaker 2: I don't care what people think about me because I'm
- 31:40Speaker 2: on a different bus than everybody else.
- 31:41Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 31:41Speaker 2: I'm on the rest of y'all bus, so you can
- 31:43Speaker 2: talk about me on that bus. I'll talk about myself
- 31:45Speaker 2: on this bus. I give zero. F's about being called
- 31:50Speaker 2: a fraud by Lane Kiffin. I'm telling you right now.
- 31:53Speaker 4: By the way, Lane Kiffin is the fraud. Wait until
- 31:56Speaker 4: the story about the co-eds and Nick Saban. Who's the fraud?
- 32:00Speaker 1: Seriously.
- 32:01Speaker 4: I guess Lane Kiffin's argument against being a fraud is
- 32:04Speaker 4: you guys all know I'm a jerk.
- 32:05Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You all know I'm a jerk. Also,
- 32:08Speaker 1: let's throw this one in here.
- 32:09Speaker 4: Before we get to the media appreciation of UNC, because
- 32:13Speaker 4: we do want to get to that. Before we get
- 32:15Speaker 4: to that, Bone, let's update the fact that.
- 32:21Speaker 4: The multiple attorney generals are now involved in this situation
- 32:27Speaker 4: with LSU, the NCAA, the SEC, the legal fight over
- 32:31Speaker 4: whether they can bring the pro players back to play
- 32:35Speaker 4: football at LSU. You have Christopher Carr, the attorney general
- 32:40Speaker 4: at Georgia. who put out a statement calling on Greg
- 32:44Speaker 4: Sankey and the SEC to suspend or remove LSU from
- 32:47Speaker 4: the conference if they play pro players. Not to be outdone,
- 32:52Speaker 4: Liz Murrell is the Louisiana Attorney General. She filed a
- 32:59Speaker 4: brief in court where she goes after the NCAA for
- 33:02Speaker 4: changing the rules, calls it a bait-and-switch case, And that's
- 33:07Speaker 4: what they're trying to catch LSU on with a bait
- 33:09Speaker 4: and switch. So this thing is political now. This is just...
- 33:14Speaker 4: I don't care what reality show the ladies are watching
- 33:17Speaker 4: or Bone's watching right now. I don't care what Housewives
- 33:20Speaker 4: is on right.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Now, Bone.
- 33:21Speaker 2: This stuff is 50 times more dramatic. Am I supposed
- 33:24Speaker 2: to answer that or is that just a throwaway one? Yeah,
- 33:27Speaker 2: a throwaway, definitely. Because right now it's Orange County Ultimate
- 33:30Speaker 2: Girls Trip, which is like the all-star game of the Housewives.
- 33:33Speaker 5: They all.
- 33:34Speaker 2: One from each season traveled together, and now New York
- 33:37Speaker 2: comes back September 15th.
- 33:39Speaker 1: So there's your question.
- 33:40Speaker 2: New Jersey will be back at some point, maybe next year.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Glad I got all that info from you. Oh, man.
- 33:47Speaker 2: All right.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, also, for the time being, Seth
- 33:51Speaker 4: Trimble is eligible again, everybody. That lawsuit he was in,
- 33:55Speaker 4: he got himself in in Kentucky. You're going to be
- 33:58Speaker 4: shocked by this, Bone. They ruled in favor of the
- 34:00Speaker 4: players wanting a fifth year. Temporary restraining order. But again,
- 34:06Speaker 4: none of these rulings ever seem to be final. They're
- 34:08Speaker 4: all temporary until the next ruling. All right, so let's
- 34:13Speaker 4: give you a little media love, Boney, for North Carolina.
- 34:16Speaker 1: It's been all over the place this week.
- 34:18Speaker 4: Everywhere I've looked on Twitter, we had Eric McLean the
- 34:22Speaker 4: other day just praising the hell out of that defensive
- 34:24Speaker 4: front of the Tar Heels, especially Xavier Lewis. and the
- 34:27Speaker 4: way that he played. I was afraid Melkart wouldn't have
- 34:30Speaker 4: a running buddy. He's got multiple ones, but Xavier Lewis
- 34:33Speaker 4: looks like a hell of a running buddy for him.
- 34:35Speaker 1: In the middle.
- 34:36Speaker 4: And then E.J. Manuel on ACC Network, Bone. Apparently he
- 34:41Speaker 4: was out of the country during Week 0, but he
- 34:43Speaker 4: is now up to date, Bone, on who Jelani Thurman is,
- 34:47Speaker 4: the Ohio State transfer tight end at UNC, and he
- 34:51Speaker 4: likes him some Jelani Thurman.
- 34:53Speaker 6: They got a star in this tight end, dude. Jelani Thurman.
- 34:56Speaker 6: As I'm watching the game cast, I didn't get a
- 34:58Speaker 6: chance to watch the game live because I couldn't do
- 35:00Speaker 6: it with, you know, the Portuguese internet. But, bro, I
- 35:03Speaker 6: kept seeing Jelani Thurman pop up.
- 35:05Speaker 7: I'm like, man, who the hell is this guy?
- 35:07Speaker 6: And when I actually watched the game back, I'm like, man,
- 35:09Speaker 6: this dude's super athletic. He's running around. He's making plays
- 35:12Speaker 6: out in the flat. So he certainly is going to
- 35:14Speaker 6: be a problem for a lot of teams.
- 35:16Speaker 1: I mean, that dude's an NFL player, isn't he, Fetty?
- 35:19Speaker 4: Like, you look at his body and his athleticism, and
- 35:23Speaker 4: my God, do they not love getting that ball out
- 35:27Speaker 4: to him in space, getting guys in front?
- 35:29Speaker 1: And he's playing for a coordinator that's going to know
- 35:33Speaker 1: how to utilize his skill set. Hell yeah, dude. That's
- 35:36Speaker 1: what I love about it. It was the perfect marriage.
- 35:38Speaker 1: They revamped that room.
- 35:40Speaker 7: And they got the right coach to utilize his talents
- 35:43Speaker 7: and his skill set.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Big time, man. I can't wait to watch him play
- 35:46Speaker 1: this season.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Real quick, and I think you're on my side here,
- 35:48Speaker 2: Kannapolis man on the text line, I think that there's
- 35:51Speaker 2: a difference in Lane Kiffin, how he handles business, and
- 35:54Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, the actual football coach. I'm not questioning Lane Kiffin,
- 35:58Speaker 2: the football coach. He said, what big wins does Lane have? Well,
- 36:01Speaker 2: he beat No. 2 Georgia, No. 4 LSU, No. 10
- 36:05Speaker 2: Penn State, and No. 13 LSU, all in a three-year span.
- 36:08Speaker 2: So the coach, Lane Kiffin, And the job he did
- 36:11Speaker 2: at Ole Miss, we have to separate, I think, from
- 36:13Speaker 2: the character of Wayne Kiffin.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's a great coach. He's a great
- 36:16Speaker 1: football coach.
- 36:16Speaker 4: And I think he'll succeed at LSU. I think the
- 36:19Speaker 4: budget they have there, I mean, his offensive acumen and
- 36:22Speaker 4: how he makes– look how good Matt Corral looked under him.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:25Speaker 4: What he does for quarterbacks. So I think he's brilliant.
- 36:29Speaker 4: I just think he is a slightly flawed and slightly unlikable.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Human being, Bob. A little bit. Some people say we are.
- 36:37Speaker 2: When we come back, offensive strategy talk is trendy this
- 36:41Speaker 2: week with the Panthers. Dave Canales will talk TMAC on
- 36:44Speaker 2: the slot. And what is the bub hub about the
- 36:47Speaker 2: three tight end sets? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 37:07Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean, in college, whenever I was heavier,
- 37:11Speaker 5: I was stronger, faster. And that's how I feel right now.
- 37:14Speaker 5: Like last year, like I said before, I just I
- 37:17Speaker 5: didn't feel like myself. I feel like I wasn't moving
- 37:19Speaker 5: as good and didn't feel as powerful. And now I
- 37:22Speaker 5: feel like I got a lot back.
- 37:28Speaker 4: That is TMAC. I'm telling you, I can feel it, man.
- 37:33Speaker 4: Now the offensive tackles need to hold up and give
- 37:36Speaker 4: Bryce time to find TMAC and TMAC time to run
- 37:39Speaker 4: his route. But I can feel it, Bone. He looks
- 37:42Speaker 4: different out there. He is telling you he feels so
- 37:45Speaker 4: much better and so much different. Back at his college weight,
- 37:52Speaker 4: I think last year was just– if week zero was
- 37:56Speaker 4: an appetizer for this week in college football, I think
- 37:59Speaker 4: his rookie year was an appetizer, man, for what he's
- 38:01Speaker 4: about ready to do in this league.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Because while we saw the potential greatness, we also saw
- 38:07Speaker 2: how much room there was to grow with the strength.
- 38:10Speaker 2: there were times where maybe the ball kind of got
- 38:12Speaker 2: ripped out of his hands. He didn't always have the
- 38:13Speaker 2: strongest hands. So we saw, and despite the numbers being good,
- 38:19Speaker 2: the fact that he was flawed and there's still so
- 38:22Speaker 2: much more room to grow, the sky's the limit for
- 38:24Speaker 2: this dude, man. And that's what I tried to say
- 38:26Speaker 2: when he got drafted and everyone tried to argue with me.
- 38:30Speaker 1: About it. He goes on the list, doesn't he, Mac? Interesting, interesting. T-Mac,
- 38:34Speaker 1: you made the list, T-Mac. Players that I said... Didn't
- 38:38Speaker 1: want in the draft. I know, man. Don't worry. Your
- 38:40Speaker 1: list is nowhere near as big as mine is. You
- 38:42Speaker 1: know what it is? It's all about motivation. We're motivating
- 38:45Speaker 1: young men. Clearly.
- 38:46Speaker 4: Clearly that's what we were going for.
- 38:48Speaker 1: There was a cool moment. And I did want Kelvin Benjamin.
- 38:50Speaker 1: There was a cool.
- 38:51Speaker 4: Moment at the presser yesterday when Vashti Hurd presented TMAC.
- 38:55Speaker 4: with the Pro Football Writers Association Rookie of the Year
- 38:58Speaker 4: and Offense Rookie of the Year Award. That was a
- 39:00Speaker 4: pretty cool moment. Vashti did an awesome job doing that.
- 39:04Speaker 4: And you also had Dave Canales talking yesterday. He wouldn't
- 39:07Speaker 4: say really hardly anything about why, you know, Brooke's not
- 39:09Speaker 4: practicing beyond soreness.
- 39:11Speaker 1: He did say he's optimistic.
- 39:13Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks will be ready to play week one next
- 39:16Speaker 4: weekend against the Bears. But Canales did talk openly, Bone,
- 39:21Speaker 4: about the concept of putting TMAC in the slot. They
- 39:25Speaker 4: did it 16% of the time last year. The vibe
- 39:29Speaker 4: is that they could do it more this year. And
- 39:31Speaker 4: he talked about the benefits of moving TMAC around.
- 39:35Speaker 7: I know stuff we did last year, you know, just
- 39:37Speaker 7: moving into the three spot, the two spot. He certainly
- 39:41Speaker 7: played the single a lot last year as well. Just
- 39:43Speaker 7: giving us that big, reliable target over there. And, but
- 39:45Speaker 7: as y'all know, you can do things into the boundary
- 39:48Speaker 7: with the single side X to help. You can cloud,
- 39:52Speaker 7: you can get a safety dropping in. You can move
- 39:54Speaker 7: in linebacker to kind of spy, just take a little
- 39:56Speaker 7: bit of space over there. So there's things you can do,
- 39:58Speaker 7: but as you move them around in different spots, it
- 40:00Speaker 7: gets harder and harder to try to pair up, you know,
- 40:02Speaker 7: your best coverage guys, or they may have to move
- 40:04Speaker 7: a corner inside. And then that creates matchups other places.
- 40:07Speaker 6: So we'll use them.
- 40:08Speaker 7: We'll use them that way. We'll use them versatility, be
- 40:10Speaker 7: able to take advantage of how comfortable he is in
- 40:12Speaker 7: the slot. And then also, still be able to take
- 40:14Speaker 7: advantage of the one-on-one opportunities when they come to us.
- 40:17Speaker 4: It makes a lot of sense, Bone, that part in
- 40:19Speaker 4: there about getting TMAC on different guys other than just
- 40:24Speaker 4: the top corner. That's what teams have been able to
- 40:27Speaker 4: do for us over the years with J.C.
- 40:30Speaker 3: Horn.
- 40:31Speaker 1: J.C.
- 40:31Speaker 4: Had never gone into the slot until this year. So
- 40:35Speaker 4: put your best receiver in the slot. Our number one
- 40:38Speaker 4: will never cover him. And that's what they're trying to
- 40:41Speaker 4: do with TMAC. But on the flip side, that's what
- 40:44Speaker 4: Avero's trying to do with Horn so that you can't
- 40:47Speaker 4: do it that easy. So it makes sense on both fronts.
- 40:50Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing both those guys in the slot.
- 40:53Speaker 2: One of the internal feels, Mac, from those that cover
- 40:56Speaker 2: the team within the building was last year that Teams
- 41:02Speaker 2: could focus so much on TMAC, especially when Coker was
- 41:08Speaker 2: not in there, that there was no other threat. Once
- 41:11Speaker 2: Coker got back in there, it opened things up. Now
- 41:15Speaker 2: you have to think, hey, when Coker there for a
- 41:17Speaker 2: full year.
- 41:20Speaker 2: How much is that going to open up things now
- 41:22Speaker 2: and moving them around like you're talking about? I think
- 41:24Speaker 2: that that right there, Coker's presence for a full year
- 41:28Speaker 2: will be huge for him. Also, that's what sucks about
- 41:30Speaker 2: the Brazel stuff, because we thought Brazel was really going
- 41:33Speaker 2: to open things up for him there in the slot, especially.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.
- 41:37Speaker 4: He may not spend as much time in the slot
- 41:40Speaker 4: as he would have if Brazel was still healthy. That
- 41:42Speaker 4: was kind of the theory. But we'll see how it
- 41:45Speaker 4: plays out. How about this note from Dan Graziano? I
- 41:49Speaker 4: noticed Panther fans bone got a little, you know, got
- 41:53Speaker 4: a little opinionated on this one. Dan Graziano was just
- 41:56Speaker 4: simply doing a like bold prediction for a bunch of
- 42:02Speaker 4: NFL teams on ESPN.com. His bold prediction, I don't feel
- 42:07Speaker 4: like is that bold, says Chuba Hubbard will lead the
- 42:10Speaker 4: team in rushing yards. And he writes in here that
- 42:14Speaker 4: they're excited about Jonathan Brooks, but his health history means
- 42:19Speaker 4: they are extremely careful with him. That last part there
- 42:24Speaker 4: seemed to get some Panther fans feeling like, How careful are.
- 42:30Speaker 1: We going to be with him? And do we really
- 42:32Speaker 1: need to be careful with him?
- 42:33Speaker 4: I mean, we're about, I don't know, Bone, 20 plus
- 42:36Speaker 4: months from when the last injury happened.
- 42:40Speaker 1: What do you read into that right there?
- 42:41Speaker 2: I don't think it's really all that bold from Graziano.
- 42:46Speaker 2: I've said, though, I wonder, you know, once Brooks.
- 42:50Speaker 2: I think eventually, not too far in the future, this
- 42:53Speaker 2: will be his job once he gets more adjusted to
- 42:58Speaker 2: life in the NFL because he's still basically a rookie
- 43:02Speaker 2: despite being around for a while. Also, I know that
- 43:05Speaker 2: we worry about the injuries with Jonathan Brooks, rightfully so.
- 43:10Speaker 2: Shuba also has to stay healthy too, man. Shuba got
- 43:13Speaker 2: hurt last year. It wasn't a great year for him
- 43:14Speaker 2: in comparison. He got hurt in camp. So while it's
- 43:17Speaker 2: not the... career worry type stuff for Brooks with the knee.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Chuba's got stuff that's lingered before, too. So while we
- 43:26Speaker 2: worry about Brooks, we can't act like, you know, Chuba's
- 43:29Speaker 2: been Derrick Henry out there and not... you know, injury
- 43:33Speaker 2: riddled himself a little bit.
- 43:34Speaker 4: Which is why I like the timeshare. I mean, it's 2026, man.
- 43:37Speaker 4: This ain't your daddy's running games anymore. This ain't the running, well,
- 43:41Speaker 4: I guess I am the daddy. Like, that sounded weird.
- 43:44Speaker 4: But like, I guess it's like, it's not my running
- 43:46Speaker 4: game from when I, when I grew up, Bone.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Way back in the day when I grew up. It was,
- 43:52Speaker 2: you had a feature back, you ran his ass into
- 43:55Speaker 2: the ground. And we have moved on so far from that.
- 43:58Speaker 2: So I think it's perfect to your point that these
- 44:01Speaker 2: guys get a timeshare. I think you have a better
- 44:04Speaker 2: chance of keeping them both healthy. I also am very
- 44:07Speaker 2: much a running game based on vibes. based on who
- 44:10Speaker 2: the hot hand is. So I'm not one that says
- 44:13Speaker 2: Chuba needs more carries, Brooks need more carries. I'm very
- 44:16Speaker 2: much a play it by feel type thing. Like Rico
- 44:18Speaker 2: last year in the middle of the season. Yeah, like
- 44:20Speaker 2: there you had to ride Rico.
- 44:22Speaker 4: But then there was a time later in the season
- 44:24Speaker 4: where it tilted more towards Chuba. So that's kind of
- 44:27Speaker 4: the way I'm looking at it. We got to talk
- 44:29Speaker 4: about all this hubbub surrounding the 13 personnel bone it's
- 44:35Speaker 4: we have been trying to figure out why the heck
- 44:38Speaker 4: are there five tight ends on this roster I personally
- 44:40Speaker 4: believe they kept Sanders until they feel like Waller's good
- 44:47Speaker 4: to go physically and he's up to speed fully I
- 44:49Speaker 4: could be wrong I could be wrong But a lot
- 44:51Speaker 4: of people believe, oh, man, they want to use more
- 44:55Speaker 4: 13 personnel. And it does make sense. Like, first of all,
- 44:57Speaker 4: the Panthers ran the six most 13 personnel. But for
- 45:01Speaker 4: people who don't know the when you say like 13 personnel,
- 45:05Speaker 4: the one is the amount of running backs on the field.
- 45:07Speaker 4: And then the three is the amount of tight ends
- 45:09Speaker 4: on the field, like 11 personnel is one running back,
- 45:11Speaker 4: one tight end. 12 personnel, one running back, two tight ends.
- 45:15Speaker 4: The Panthers ran the sixth most 13 personnel last year.
- 45:19Speaker 4: 13 personnel bone is extremely trendy in the NFL. The
- 45:23Speaker 4: Rams ran it better than anybody from an efficiency standpoint,
- 45:27Speaker 4: and they ran it more than anybody. But the Panthers'
- 45:30Speaker 4: bone jumped last year from 0.2% of the time to 8%
- 45:32Speaker 4: of the time. It's something we really didn't talk about.
- 45:37Speaker 4: There was a lot, a big jump last year. And
- 45:40Speaker 4: their efficiency was, I think, out of the 16 teams, Bone,
- 45:44Speaker 4: that ran it last year, 50 snaps or more, they
- 45:47Speaker 4: were 10th. So they weren't necessarily the best at it.
- 45:52Speaker 4: What do you think, Bone, about the idea of you
- 45:54Speaker 4: have all these tight ends? Now keep in mind, you're
- 45:57Speaker 4: probably taking Coker off the field. when you run 13 personnel.
- 46:01Speaker 4: But you've got extra blockers in the run game.
- 46:03Speaker 1: You can create mismatches.
- 46:04Speaker 4: Because the theory is teams have to play their base
- 46:07Speaker 4: defense and keep their linebackers on the field, and then
- 46:10Speaker 4: you can just make those linebackers cover your tight ends.
- 46:13Speaker 4: What do you think about this hubbub here?
- 46:15Speaker 2: I think it makes sense from the standpoint of they
- 46:17Speaker 2: don't have– a dominant force at tight end that's a
- 46:22Speaker 2: main go-to guy like some teams have. So they're thinking,
- 46:25Speaker 2: all right, well, how can we maximize the spot? If
- 46:28Speaker 2: it's not one tight end, it's multiple tight ends. We're
- 46:32Speaker 2: going to try to get something out of the tight
- 46:34Speaker 2: end spot more than before, but we don't have one
- 46:37Speaker 2: go-to guy right now. So what we're going to try
- 46:39Speaker 2: to do is we're going to put many guys out
- 46:41Speaker 2: there and try to– confuse the defense and get production
- 46:45Speaker 2: that way. So from that standpoint, it makes a little
- 46:47Speaker 2: bit of sense. They don't have a Travis Kelsey out there,
- 46:50Speaker 2: a guy that is a go known commodity. So they're
- 46:52Speaker 2: thinking we're going to throw out multiple guys. And then
- 46:55Speaker 2: maybe from that, someone develops more, maybe like a Mitchell Evans.
- 46:58Speaker 2: It is an interesting concept. I think they're also trying to,
- 47:02Speaker 2: they also could be trying, the Sanders thing is kind
- 47:05Speaker 2: of weird because I feel like he might not be
- 47:08Speaker 2: long for this operation, but I don't really know. I'm
- 47:12Speaker 2: out on Sanders, so I don't really know what his
- 47:14Speaker 2: full role was here in all this right now.
- 47:15Speaker 4: My gut, like I said, my gut feeling is once
- 47:18Speaker 4: they feel like Waller's good to go fully physically, you know,
- 47:21Speaker 4: they're babying him a little bit, slowly getting him up
- 47:24Speaker 4: to speed. My feeling is then Sanders might be gone.
- 47:28Speaker 4: They may have been trying to trade him to no avail.
- 47:30Speaker 4: We don't know for sure. So that's kind of my
- 47:32Speaker 4: gut feeling. I don't know if keeping five tight ends
- 47:34Speaker 4: is because, oh, we want to run more. you know,
- 47:38Speaker 4: three tight end personnel. But I am intrigued by this
- 47:41Speaker 4: concept because it is trendy around the league. The efficiency
- 47:44Speaker 4: numbers bone, especially a passing, believe it or not, because
- 47:47Speaker 4: you think three tight ends, you think, oh, big boys
- 47:49Speaker 4: on the field, let's run it, right? But the passing
- 47:52Speaker 4: numbers around the league last year, by the way, last year,
- 47:54Speaker 4: the most 13 personnel in the history of the league
- 47:57Speaker 4: last year.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Wow.
- 47:59Speaker 2: And teams are passing out of it more than ever.
- 48:01Speaker 2: And the passing efficiency from 13 personnel is better than run.
- 48:05Speaker 1: So I am like, if.
- 48:06Speaker 4: You get a Waller bone on a linebacker, By playing
- 48:10Speaker 4: three tight ends, like, I'm intrigued by it.
- 48:12Speaker 1: And then there was the stuff from Hayden Winks.
- 48:15Speaker 2: I know the guys were playing it yesterday on the
- 48:17Speaker 2: other shows where Hayden Winks from Yahoo says, oh, 13
- 48:21Speaker 2: personnel can help you get favorable matchups on TMAC as well.
- 48:24Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued, Boney. I am intrigued.
- 48:27Speaker 2: Jamie's talking about the 13 personnel, how despite all the
- 48:31Speaker 2: tight ends, Sanders and Waller are more receivers that you're
- 48:34Speaker 2: saying are than blocker. So Darren Waller, do we view him, Mac,
- 48:39Speaker 2: despite being a tight end, as more of a wide
- 48:41Speaker 2: receiver when he's out there? You know what I mean?
- 48:45Speaker 2: He's a very unique matchup where he's almost a wide
- 48:47Speaker 2: receiver more than tight end.
- 48:49Speaker 4: He is, but if you put him, Tremble, and Evans
- 48:52Speaker 4: on the field at the same time, three tight ends,
- 48:55Speaker 4: the other team's going to want to be in base.
- 48:57Speaker 4: And then you flex Waller out, and there's a linebacker
- 49:01Speaker 4: or a safety going out with him? I love that matchup.
- 49:05Speaker 4: You know what I mean? That's the theory. Get their
- 49:08Speaker 4: bigger guys on the field. Don't let them play sub-packages,
- 49:11Speaker 4: nickel and stuff, and then attack those bigger guys, the linebackers,
- 49:15Speaker 4: in coverage. That's the theory. And that's that's what I'm saying.
- 49:18Speaker 4: Darren Waller, I think is a mismatch nightmare. You try
- 49:21Speaker 4: to put those dudes on him. Especially in the red zone.
- 49:24Speaker 4: You want teams in that Megan trainer defense, Mac.
- 49:27Speaker 1: What's that? All about that bass. No tremble.
- 49:32Speaker 5: Tremble?
- 49:32Speaker 1: No tremble? Although tremble probably wouldn't happen.
- 49:34Speaker 2: No tremble.
- 49:35Speaker 1: No tremble. No tremble. All right.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Anyway, I said too much. By the way, Mac Picante
- 49:38Speaker 2: is ready for his pick segment tomorrow. He has prepared
- 49:40Speaker 2: 27 picks for tomorrow.
- 49:42Speaker 1: I tried to tell Picante we can't do a 27-pick segment, man.
- 49:45Speaker 1: You work on that while I'm in the break here.
- 49:47Speaker 1: I know he's a sicko. All right.
- 49:48Speaker 2: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
- 49:50Speaker 2: as always, Week one begins. We discuss what are fair
- 49:54Speaker 2: fan expectations for teams across the Carolinas.
- 49:57Speaker 1: Backbone 50 Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.