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Let's blame all the lonely men for making OF girls millionaires | Maintaining Frame 140 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello radio.
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  Speaker 2: Frame one one man making only fans.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually a SLNG song reference lonely people, all.
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  Speaker 1: The Loly people.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like all Loly that that's Eleanor and a
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  Speaker 2: little Raby.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously they're all only fans. But who knows where three?
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  Speaker 3: Who did they work for?
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: All right, so okay, yeah, I just I got this
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  Speaker 3: is a suggestion. Oh there's an echo? Is there an echo?
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  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be, no, should It was from my microphone
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  Speaker 2: because well, yeah, because there's some things I did with
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  Speaker 2: let me, let me, let me see something. Okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: still muted on those other places, so we should be good.
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  Speaker 2: All right, yeah good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, speaking of like really crazy beginnings. When
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  Speaker 3: you guys went to Washington, d C. And then had
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  Speaker 3: sort of the wrap up afterwards, people were like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you had the screen up and everybody could hear things
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  Speaker 3: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: It was It was Hannah's setup.
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  Speaker 2: She she what she did on her obs was she
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  Speaker 2: put so you can set like different sources either within
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  Speaker 2: a scene or you can make global settings, And Hannah
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  Speaker 2: had the microphone set to a global setting, which means
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  Speaker 2: you could hear it no matter what scene you're in,
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  Speaker 2: which is global, right, so it's across all the scenes
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't know that. Well, so you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if if I, if I had a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: time and Hannah allowed me to, I could set up
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  Speaker 2: her obs to.
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  Speaker 1: Where that won't happen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if yeah, because what she does apparently
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  Speaker 2: is that she knows it's global, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: she stays quiet just yeah, just asks that people do
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  Speaker 2: not say anything. But you don't have to do that.
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  Speaker 2: You can, you know, you can actually But anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was I know when we were reason why show
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  Speaker 2: I know at.
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  Speaker 3: The beginning as well, and the reason why I mentioned
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  Speaker 3: it is because people seem to love it. They were like,
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  Speaker 3: this should be the new intro.
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  Speaker 2: Just people, we're just kind of like bullshitting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, just chatting and oh did you put
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  Speaker 3: your the you know before the show starts. But okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 3: we should probably get into this. This was a request
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  Speaker 3: this is the problem when you do something like Tifa's
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  Speaker 3: best wife Fu. I mean, do we call you Tifa
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  Speaker 3: or wi Fu?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just know I would just say, uh, Tifa
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  Speaker 2: is best yeah food. You have to say it that
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  Speaker 2: way every time because he's obviously not referred to himself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That that's what makes the complexity. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: you this content, that is where you do it. I
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  Speaker 3: uh yeah, Like so this this was about the Bop House,
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  Speaker 3: and I believe that this commentator might be a more
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  Speaker 3: conservative one. I don't quote me on that. Maybe she's
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  Speaker 3: just moderate, but she's she's calling out the Bop House.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, what is a normy take without blaming
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  Speaker 3: men and shaming them for making these women millionaires by
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  Speaker 3: taking something so horrible from them?
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  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, what is a normy take? I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there is one that doesn't at least try to
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  Speaker 2: like do the whole both sides thing well, and that's
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  Speaker 2: about as charitable as it gets.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know, like it feels like the person
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  Speaker 3: walking away with forty three million isn't the one being exploited.
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  Speaker 3: But what do I know? I actually have a framework
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  Speaker 3: that maybe would analyze that a bit more. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: let's see, let's let's find out what they have to say.
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  Speaker 3: You see, is this too.
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  Speaker 2: Early, Brian? No, no, no, no, no, this is fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm up at like seven in the morning. No,
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  Speaker 2: not even that six in the morning, sometimes five thirty.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So let's play a little bit of the
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  Speaker 2: intro and I will skip the thing where she explains it,
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  Speaker 2: but I want you to see some of the intro
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  Speaker 2: where she plays a couple of clips.
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  Speaker 1: So let's take a look at this.
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  Speaker 5: She made a whopping forty three million in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 6: Sophiel Rain just revealed who her top spender was and
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  Speaker 6: he spent almost five million dollars.
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  Speaker 5: All right, how much did you make this moment?
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  Speaker 3: Six million?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Next person, that was underwhelming.
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  Speaker 8: I don't work.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do for a living?
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  Speaker 7: To forty?
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  Speaker 1: Car like this?
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  Speaker 2: How much she made?
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  Speaker 9: Coupletons?
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  Speaker 10: How much is this car?
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  Speaker 9: Five hundred?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't look. I just I just tap.
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  Speaker 9: I don't have time for this, like I just paid
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  Speaker 9: for it. The dwagon I could crash.
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  Speaker 11: I want to ask about it.
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  Speaker 5: The Bop House is the first only fans content creator House.
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  Speaker 7: A seventeen year old girl, was the most requested creator
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  Speaker 7: to join the Bop House.
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  Speaker 5: You joined only fans the night you turn eighteen, I
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  Speaker 5: think so, yeah, and people subscribed right away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Should they be in jail?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's sad to see sad.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So that's the intro. That's just sort of
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  Speaker 2: like setting it up. So the Bop House is like
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  Speaker 2: the Playboy Bunny manshit in a way, right, but it's
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  Speaker 2: run by and populated by women, young women, I assume
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  Speaker 2: attractive women, and they're making bank on it. So let's
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  Speaker 2: find out how this is men's fault, well, at least
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  Speaker 2: like in part Alison, are you trying to talk because
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  Speaker 2: I can't hear you? If you are, you're muted or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry about that. I'm yeah. Let's let's find out.
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  Speaker 1: M okay, letting me see. Let me jump ahead.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a bit about social media.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go to that bit first.
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  Speaker 9: Their first names.
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  Speaker 5: First up, we've got Alena, she is twenty four years old,
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  Speaker 5: Aisha twenty two years old, Camilla twenty two years old,
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  Speaker 5: Julia twenty two years old, Joy just nineteen years old,
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  Speaker 5: and Ava again just nineteen years old. That is so
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  Speaker 5: crazy to me. All of these girls are younger than we.
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  Speaker 5: Then we have Sophia Rain, the creator of the Bob
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  Speaker 5: House and the final boss of OnlyFans. You are aware that,
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  Speaker 5: like you're the final boss when it comes to.
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  Speaker 9: Of right, is that what they say?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that what they really is? Not the person?
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  Speaker 3: Was she the one who created or no?
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  Speaker 2: No, she's the final boss of Ali fans girls. She's
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  Speaker 2: making the most money on OnlyFans. She doesn't own it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing is that what I understand about this is,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, I thought pay like before Patreon did
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  Speaker 3: all the crackdown on all the porn, basically they would
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  Speaker 3: have been considered the only fans because there was creators
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  Speaker 3: who are doing that kind of stuff on Patreon, and
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  Speaker 3: then they did the crackdown and it's all supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be just.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're still porn on Patreon. But it's like animation
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  Speaker 2: and Despirations. It's not I don't think it's like videos.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, exactly. People, So what happened is only fans,
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  Speaker 3: I guess didn't do the crackdown, so you don't actually
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  Speaker 3: have to do porn on OnlyFans. It's not an obligation.
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  Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want. It's just that it
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  Speaker 3: allows porn, and that's become what it's been known for.
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  Speaker 3: So what I'm getting at is these women are making
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  Speaker 3: these choices. They're doing so on a platform where they
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  Speaker 3: do not have to choose porn, Like they don't have
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  Speaker 3: to choose it. They could choose an they're offering, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: their their blog on philosophy, you know, their thoughts on
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  Speaker 3: advanced mathematics, you know, that kind of stuff. But they
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  Speaker 3: choose porn. Do they go on only fans? They choose
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  Speaker 3: to do porn, And somehow they're exploited. But what are
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  Speaker 3: they exploited by the fact that they can make a
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  Speaker 3: crap ton of money doing this? Like seriously, like do
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  Speaker 3: you do you have du spare a thought? For example,
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  Speaker 3: for all young men who are exploited by the rig industry.
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  Speaker 3: They go and they break their bodies for like a
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  Speaker 3: fraction of this, and the other thing is that And
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  Speaker 3: maybe I'm pre loading this, but what is it that is?
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  Speaker 3: So how are they so harmed by this? Like this?
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  Speaker 3: This is what baffles me. Yeah, I know, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: it's unsettling because of a certain belief systems, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I recognize that, but are these women the ones really
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  Speaker 3: being harmed by this? Like, this is what I have
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  Speaker 3: to ask, and ultimately she gets into well maybe I
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  Speaker 3: should let you guys go into this, but I just
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  Speaker 3: wanted to point that out. It's like, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: they are making this choice, and how are you going
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  Speaker 3: to stop these girls from making this choice?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's a global market, so let let
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  Speaker 2: let's let let's look at this another way too. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's mostly like Western men that are
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  Speaker 2: using these platforms. No, I'm just gonna put it out there.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a global market. There are simps everywhere, and
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  Speaker 2: women are seeing an opportunity to make quick money and
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  Speaker 2: potentially a lot although most women don't make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money on OnlyFans. Most women that are on OnlyFans
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  Speaker 2: don't make a lot of money, but it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: because it's a little and it's like a really low
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  Speaker 2: effort contribution. Right, I'll put some pick up of myself
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of them don't even put up nudes,
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  Speaker 2: but like kind of you know, maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe something just kind of risque or or you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of what's the word I'm looking for, cheesecakey. But
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean I think that if you look
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  Speaker 2: around on Instagram, for example, which anybody can go to
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  Speaker 2: Instagram or even like x or Facebook, there are women
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  Speaker 2: showing their bodies off there, and I think the primary
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  Speaker 2: monetary or the primary revenue they're pursuing is attention, and
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  Speaker 2: money is more like a side effect and that and
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  Speaker 2: that's the irony of this is that firstly, most of
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  Speaker 2: the men are that are that are do that are
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  Speaker 2: participating in this are probably not like Western like.
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  Speaker 1: White guys or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So you're you have to consider that it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: you got like people from the Middle East, people from India,
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  Speaker 2: people from like other parts of the world that are
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  Speaker 2: actually clicking on this stuff. Then you have to consider
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  Speaker 2: the fact that while we know that most women don't
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of money there, they do make some money,
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  Speaker 2: and that is just extra money if they're going to
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  Speaker 2: show off their body anyway, because a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: are exhibitionists. And thirdly, they're you know, they're uh, they're
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  Speaker 2: getting what they really want, which is which is attention,
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  Speaker 2: and money is like a side effect. Some of them
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of money and and maybe that's like
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  Speaker 2: like a form.
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  Speaker 1: Of social proof, like I made this much money.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I don't think they're victimized by
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  Speaker 2: it because they choose to do it. The fact that
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  Speaker 2: these things exist doesn't shouldn't deter people. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: plenty of women that are not on OnlyFans, probably the majority,
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  Speaker 2: one would hope are not. So it's not like that's
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  Speaker 2: that's something that women just can't say no to exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and she's talking, Okay, let's let's let her
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  Speaker 3: say a bit more.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, well, I play a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: of this, but I want to jump to the next bit.
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  Speaker 10: But what being forty three million four made waves recently
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  Speaker 10: which she revealed she's made an astonishing forty three million
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  Speaker 10: dollars in earnings over the past year.
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  Speaker 9: That's more than like star athletes.
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  Speaker 11: Does this Only fans model make more less than these
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  Speaker 11: NBA players. Jason Taylor probably forty million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 11: I'm gonna assume he makes more than Sophie Rain. He
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  Speaker 11: makes less. He makes thirty five million dollars. Anthony Edwards
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  Speaker 11: makes just less than missus Rain. Oh oh, I gave
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  Speaker 11: away a little hand forty two million dollars. Okay, I
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  Speaker 11: would assume he has got to make more. Not quite, Brian,
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  Speaker 11: he makes forty three million dollars. Rudy Gobert les. Rudy
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  Speaker 11: Gobert makes slightly more. That's that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: He makes so basically comparing how much Sophie Ray. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Sophie Rain is the final boss of OnlyFans,
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  Speaker 2: so she is like it's almost like we're back at
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  Speaker 2: this thing where we're talking about the top one percent.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, Sophie Rain is the woman who makes the
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  Speaker 2: most not only fans, forty three million dollars, the same
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  Speaker 2: as professional star athletes, or more than professional star athletes, who,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, break their bodies to do the thing
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  Speaker 2: that they're doing. Like like a lot of these guys
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  Speaker 2: they retire when they get to like thirty years old
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  Speaker 2: because they can't they can't keep doing it right. But
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  Speaker 2: Sophie Rain probably there's not a lot of effort that
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  Speaker 2: goes into it. I don't know what's on her content,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't think that she's putting
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  Speaker 2: in the same kind of work that professional basketball or
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  Speaker 2: football or baseball players are putting in so something to
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  Speaker 2: consider something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and what you said about how athletes break their
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  Speaker 3: bodies to do this, they do, like they're often crippled
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  Speaker 3: by the end of their careers. So this is an
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  Speaker 3: actual physical monetary costs that they're paying to do this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And that physical cost is not being paid by OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 3: Models particularly like this isn't a situation as far as
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  Speaker 3: I know, only fans models don't have often do not
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  Speaker 3: engage in any kind of prostitution or even sexual acts.
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  Speaker 2: So this girlfriend experience, uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Purely she's killed like that they're doing. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how how explicit Sophie.
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  Speaker 1: Rain is so oh that's but I don't know. She's
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  Speaker 1: got a poor name, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sure for sure. And I mean, I'm I am.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at the cost that I have to
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  Speaker 3: do to do this to this content. I have to
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  Speaker 3: have this cat who I'm allergic to putting her tail
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  Speaker 3: in my face. But but I'm just thinking about something
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  Speaker 3: that Hannah said a while back when we went covered
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  Speaker 3: something similar. We don't look at the costs of what
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: it is to be a doctor and the psychological costs
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: of having to tell a family that their their kid
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: is is dying. We don't look at the psychological, like
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  Speaker 3: the physical and psychological costs of firemen, rig workers, and
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  Speaker 3: there is a lot of jobs that are a lot
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  Speaker 3: worse than Only Fans model, And yet we are obsessed
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  Speaker 3: with not just looking at these women's butts, but regarding
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  Speaker 3: them as victims of us looking at their butts. And
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  Speaker 3: it's just I don't know. I mean, I know that
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  Speaker 3: there's a there's a religious component to this, but for me,
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  Speaker 3: I find it difficult to think that Sophie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is a religious component because you know, a woman,
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  Speaker 2: she's a fallen woman or something. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: the person who made this video, I don't think she
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  Speaker 2: says that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I watched the whole video.
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  Speaker 2: And I and I didn't hear her mention any like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is not godly. I think that she's
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  Speaker 2: just what I think her concern is. And maybe we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that point in the video. It's more about
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  Speaker 2: how Sophie Rain and Only Fans girls make women look
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  Speaker 2: bad and it's a step backwards for feminism and blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah. So ok, I don't think it's a unless,
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  Speaker 2: of course, you consider feminism itself of religion, then yes,
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  Speaker 2: she is making a religious argument.
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious what element of feminism at this point isn't
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  Speaker 3: a step back, Like I would argue that it was
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  Speaker 3: a step back the entire time if we just look
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  Speaker 3: at it from the perspective of women, I don't see
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  Speaker 3: that feminism is adding anything just to women, Like I
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  Speaker 3: would have said it was a step back for society.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, maybe getting the vote without the consequence
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  Speaker 3: of serving the state was was a step forward for
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: women only, not society and not certainly not equality. But
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: at this point, what is it that feminism does it
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: is even beneficial to women? I mean, are they're scraping
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the victimhood barrel. There are a lot
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: of women who saying that the process of fracking the
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: victimhood reserves and having you know, the the dirtiest like
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: amost unpleasant according to certain terf feminists form of victimhood,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: which is trans women come out and then a tempt
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to process that into further victimhood reserves that that's that
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: whole process. There's a lot of feminists who speak out
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: against it, who think it's it's not a good thing.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And then there are other fans. So it's almost like
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: feminism doesn't agree with Feminists don't agree with what benefits
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: women at this point, and they're having gigantic arguments that
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: have a lot of collateral damage in order to try
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to figure out what is a woman and how do
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: you benefit that? And it's like, uh, yeah, so I
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: mean only fans, I don't know. I mean compare only
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: fans to the billion dollar industry that is female victimhood,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: which which is actually exploiting women more. I wonder, especially
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: since only like what I was trying to get at,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and she talks about it. Initially you skipped it, but
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: she talks about how these women are young, and I'm like, well,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: how are you going to stop them from doing this?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Oh? I did? I did? Yeah, No, I played that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: bit where she talked about how they're you know, they
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: get as young as nineteen years old and so on,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Just like you said, like what do we what can
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you do about it? Like, no one's no one's makeing
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: them do this. They are choosing to do this. I mean,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I could say fatherless behavior and maybe that's true, but
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: this woman would find that offensive.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Well, it's younger, but it's also okay, let's let's be honest.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: What would you need to do to stop these girls
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: from choosing this? These women from choosing this they have
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: they're going to go into We need to blame and
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: shame the men so they stop paying for only fans.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I guess, but that's.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: It is an impossible asking You can stop.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: These girls from doing this when they come of age
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: is to increase the age of consent to twenty five
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: or thirty, right, and so you basically take away their autonomy.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Will you allow young men to go on only fans
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: and show their butts like, but not young girls? And then,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: you know, a couple generations from now, will that be
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: seen as patriarchal oppression that that women were artificially restricted
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: from doing something because we were so worried about how
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: much they would be victimized if they did it. Like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: do you see how this stuff goes in cycles? As
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: a society, We're like, oh, we can't let our young
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: women do that because that victimizes them. Fifty years later,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: how dare they restrict women's freedom?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's just it though like liberation is
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the only a like liberation at the cost of everything
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: is the only goal, and it never ends because human
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: desire is bottomless, and so they just keep finding new
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: ways to liberate women. And all it does is it
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: puts them in a position where they're just more likely
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to do harm to themselves because there is a hierarchy
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of what is good for you versus what you want,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and just liberating all the time is going to end
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: up with people like completely miserable and directionless. It just
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: it doesn't. That's what feminism is doing. And all of it,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: by the way, is dependent on this idea that the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: whole world and all of society needs to change for
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: women to feel completely free, and that's just not possible
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: because they'll they'll choose things that hurt themselves in the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: name of being liberated. And so we're seeing this now
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: where you know, women who are just nineteen or just
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: turned eighteen or even seventeen, they get OnlyFans accounts, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: then when anybody follows them, which you know, in a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: world of like seven billion, people's gonna be some then
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: they'll immediately be like, oh, those guys should go to jail,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: not you know, you shouldn't be on OnlyFans, No, we
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: should be sending men to jail for that for just
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: like for some of them checking it out or whatever.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: So it's and that's because we were yeah, go ahead.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, liberation liberating people. Yes, you're right, it's like liberating
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: without any sense of responsibility is aimless. But my point
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: was we we look at these situations and we say
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: we should restrict women from them because it's harming them.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: And then a generation later we look at the restrictions
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: and we say, what patriarchal oppression we've enforced on women?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: And it's like it's this never ending chasing our own
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: tail about this issue. And my point is, what do
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: you want to do to stop this? Because you're not
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: going to get rid of all of the lonely men, okay,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and you're not going to make it better by shaming
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: them into being even more lonely. Right, you can maybe
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: shut down only fans, but there's nothing apparently illegal about it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So how are you going to stop this seventeen year
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: old girl going on OnlyFans and making an account as
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: soon as she turns eighteen?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to You can't even get rid of OnlyFans,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: because if you did, there would just be another app
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that would just replace it, or women would just go
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: on Instagram and they'll start, you know, like fucking whatever,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Like you can't. The problem is not the existence of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: something like OnlyFans, if anything, the the problem is that
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: women are choosing to create. Like I said, there are
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: lonely men in the world. You can't make that go away,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: or there are just horny men, like they're just out there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: There's horny women. So you can't do anything about that.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So like what you know, the why are you complaining,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I guess is what I would ultimately lem because you can't.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You're complaining about human nature.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's my point.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Like, first of all, what are you going to do
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to change it? You have to take away their ability
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: to make these choices, which means you take away their autonomy,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: and in a couple of generations you're gonna be called
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: a patriarchal pressure. Well, men will be blamed for this
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: because men didn't stop being lonely, so women could no
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: longer have only fans accounts like that, that's the logic,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: So men should stop paying for this, so women are
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: no longer have this option. Men should take this option
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: away from women. And that's the other thing, Like, it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: basically the same, men should take this option away from women.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: So what's the difference between that and just stopping them
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: from being able to start an OnlyFans account until you're
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: seventy five, and it's all of it is just guilf porn.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I wonder, I wonder how much of all that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: we're like reading or seeing in these videos about Sophie
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Rain et cetera, is actually just her flexing on other women,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: because I bet that that's what it mostly is. When
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: she's like, well, here's how much I make. Oh, it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: not for the men, like obviously she doesn't have any
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: respect for her for her audience and because they're mostly
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: they're simps, you probably they probably don't deserve it. So
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: when she puts out there how much he's making, it's
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: a flex on other women. It's and that's why I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: think other women are like, well I think I can
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: out do Sophie Rain. So you know this is again
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: female competition.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, I see what you're saying. Yeah, almost nothing to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: do with men.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: No, men are just men are just the they're basically
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like the currency, like these are, these are this is
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: how many men are giving me money. It's not because
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I like them, it's because this is this is how
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: special I am to this number of men who are
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: giving me this much money. Men are the currency. They're
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the measuring stick, not the actual. Yeah, it's the attention
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: economy from men and also from women who are jealous
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and combatives. It'll be like, look at all the women
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: who hate me. That's more proof of how, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: like desirable I am, yes, yes.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: And again, like we're talking about one possibly one of
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the easiest jobs in all of human history. Yeah, it
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: does come with having to show your ass, which is
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable for people who are introverted, I suppose. But like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: compare this to being a surgeon. Compare this to cleaning
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: up garbage. Compare this to having to deal with heavy
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: equipment on a rig. This is easy, and yet we
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: don't ever think about all of these other forms of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: you know, and I don't really want to call exploitation
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: because I think people should be able to sell their labor.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: But this is like the leads labor is selling of labor.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: This isn't even this is the opposite of selling labor.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: This is selling the very value of your freaking body
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that people will will pay you to just show the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: show you show them parts of your body. Like that's
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: like the only reason that happens. It's like wreck cool there,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: you know. I know this is a sacrilegious kind of comparison,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: but think about all of the all the those little
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: like those souvenirs that people would they would sell religious
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: pilgrims in the Middle Ages on their well, they it
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: was these kind of sacred objects. What's the difference here?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Basically they are selling the desirability of their body, like
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: they're selling the worth of their body, not the objectification. Well,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I guess to a degree, because it's objects that have
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: inherent value without doing anything. But it's like selling images
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: of the sacred, you know, almost, So how is that
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the anti labor people are paying them for doing nothing
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: and just showing their bodies how valuable their bodies are.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: They're valuable bodies, displaying glimpses of their valuable bodies. That's it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: That's the anti labor job.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't need to.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Do labor because my body is so valuable.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Job And also, like where where do you think this,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you know, the sort of shallow materialism that a lot
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of young women have today. This attitude comes from like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: when money is easy, it doesn't it doesn't mean anything, like,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: it doesn't it's not worth anything. So they don't they
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: don't have they don't understand the value of a dollar
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: because they're not working for it really, and they're making
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: like crazy amounts of money. And even other women who
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: aren't like they maybe they don't have OnlyFans accounts or whatever,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: or they don't you know, they don't have the courage to,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: but they see like these women making this kind of
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: money to the point where they're like they don't even
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: look at the cost of a vehicle when they buy it,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: if it's like half a million dollars, they're like, well,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I don't have time for that shit. And other women
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: are like, wow, like that's like something I want. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: want to be able to do that as though you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that's again like an ultimate form of liberationy but they
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: did not worry about anything and just like, have what
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you want, but I don't want it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: You have no Well, if you have no responsibilities to
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: anybody but yourself, it is the ultimate form of liberation.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Like I think, I like, look at this, I'm like, Wow,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: maybe I should have shown my ass when I was nineteen.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Then I could have funded like thirty men's men's shelters.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's far too late for me now. But
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: but the thing is that you know they don't have that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: They just want to buy a half a million dollar
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: car and just just get more and more material.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Crap, and they don't care.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: They'll be like, I'll just crash it up.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I don't care, right, So, like it doesn't mean anything,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: so idn't say it's not worth the newsflash.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Teenage girls are as venal selfish, interested in status and
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: rubbing their other people's noses. And young women, actually, I
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: probably shouldn't even say teenage girls. Young women before their
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: brains mature at twenty five are just as interested to
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: have that same kind of shallow sociopathy as young men.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Well you think that young men could show their ass
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and get them half a million dollar car, they wouldn't
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: do it, Like, seriously, they wouldn't do all of this stuff.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: But we shame young men for having these status symbols,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: for riding running down or going down the street where
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: their jacked up trucks and stuff. We shame them for
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: far far more modest uh depictions of being status seeking
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: and disregarding other people's other people's benefit in the process,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. Well, women girls like this, they're
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: just exactly the same. And it doesn't seem like they
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: necessarily grow out of it because nobody calls them on it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Nobody is calling these onlyfan models on the fact that
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: they're probably in it for the attention. They're probably in
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: it for the social like the social competition. Maybe some
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: of the smart ones are in it for the money
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and they have like a money manager, you know, uh,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: and maybe they have other goals or whatever. Are there
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: any only fans models who like donate to charity or anything?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: That?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Is there like an OnlyFans model who says, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I show people my ass, but I take a reasonable
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: wage and then everything else goes to things that are
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: important to me. Is there an only fan like somebody
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: find that out because it seems more like it's just
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I doubt it. Reveling in lust, reveling in greed, reveling
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: in pride, reveling in sloth, it's just and and here's
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: here's the news. Flash. Teenage girls and young women are
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: just about as bad about all of that as young men,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: except oh gosh, Kat, could you not tip over my coffee?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Can I play more of the videos?
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Sure, I'll have to do with Yeah to be in
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: this house doing the same dance moves as these girls
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: wearing tight clothing.
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: Reading this as another TikTok trend one.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Of the So what she was just saying is that
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: there are TikTok trends where women are basically auditioning to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: join the Bop House and they have to dress scantily
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and dance around. Again, this is all women trying to, like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: you know, find approval from other women. Men have nothing
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to do with this, like, nothing to do with this.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Let's keep going.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Girls, that audition you may or made on heard of.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: Her name is Piper and she's just seventeen years old.
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: She's a child YouTuber. I think she's had YouTube since
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: she was like nine.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: She reminds me a lot of I think her name
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: was Danny, dancing around in revealing clothing on the internet. So,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: like I said, she's just seventeen years old, So legally
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: the Bob House cannot take them under their wing yet.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: Now I don't need to tell you why.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: So okay.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Again, now if let's say that there was, because what
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: appears to be happening here is you have adult women
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: putting out sexy content online TikTok OnlyFans, Instagram, Facebook, x YouTube, wherever,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: and it is. It's everywhere. There's women trying to get
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: attention with their bodies. Okay, men are not making them
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: do any of this, and they are adults, and these
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: adult women are having an impact on underage girls who
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: see that, and they themselves want to be They want
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that attention, they want to be like a part of
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: that action, and so they start putting out videos. They
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: all have phones. Apparently their parents are not involved in
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: their life enough to restrict that, or they don't care,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: or worse yet, they might even be supportive. I know
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: that one Lily Phillips says that her parents are supportive
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: of her banging one hundred dudes in a day. That's
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: what I heard. I don't know if it's true, doesn't matter,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: But at no point is there a conversation about whether
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: or not adult women should be essentially create like essentially
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: inspiring girls to do that. There's nothing about that, like
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: imagine if I don't know, like if there was some
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: flip side of that, like maybe there was a man
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: who was, you know, like Andrew Tate for example, he
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: gets he gets a lot of shit for being like
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a you know, they call him a pimp or whatever.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the difference.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Between entertaining these women in this bop house?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. What's the difference, right
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: he has? I mean, I don't know if he still does,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: but I know that he was accused of, you know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: essentially having women work for him, and they would you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: he was basically managing their OnlyFans accounts or they're whatever
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: it was, their subscriptions for you know, uh material online, right,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: fat material for men, and we would say that. Some
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: people would say that he's not a good role model
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: for that for men, And I would be one of
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: those people, Right. I don't think that he treated fair
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: by the justice system, but I don't think he's a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: good role model for men. And I would say that
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't you know, participate in that. But these adult women,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: adult women are out here inspiring underage girls and that's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: not a problem, I mean, at least not like she
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: might say, well, I don't think that's cool, but you aren't.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Are you really against it? Or are you just gonna
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: blame men and ask men to step in and do
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: something because that's what it sounds like you're doing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah that yeah, well, I mean is she going to
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: call them out for I mean, essentially they're doing the
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: same things that drug dealers do. They're recruiting among young women,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: and they're using that kind of glamorous lifestyle and the
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: stuff that you can get to do it, or they're
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: recruiting among girls. And then I don't know if this
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: girl at seventeen was in contact with these with these
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: women and talking to them and they were encouraging her,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: or they were actually talking to her until she turned eighteen,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: that might be a little bit. That's pretty sus a
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: little suspicious there, but you know, like and and again,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: this this girl, and I was looking at the comments,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: apparently was managed by her mother. But of course we
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: can't so the Lily Films, seventeen year old Lily Phillips
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: not yet, well no, no, the seventeen year old who's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: who was who's potentially going into the bob House. We can't.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can that's exactly.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: We can't talk about mm hmm. So we cannot talk
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: about the rate at which women traffic. Women women traffic,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: They are not traffic, but traffic is the wrong word.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Women get other women into this. I see why traffic
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: is sort of expanded because it's it helps to eat,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: like it helps the conversation. Because when I say traffic,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: you know that what I mean is that these the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: mothers are getting their their daughters into the business. They're
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: grooming their daughters into the business, literally grooming because it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: prior to eighteen and you know, and that that kind
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: of stuff. And then you can also see it as
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: like coercive in terms of adult women, that kind of thing.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: So I see why it's sort of expanded in scope,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and unfortunately it shouldn't, so we need another word for that.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: But just like compelling or coercing other women into this
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: situation and seducing other women into this situation is maybe
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the best way to put it. And that's what these
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: women are doing. And nobody's gonna call them out on it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: They're gonna keep trying to basically, uh, basically stop the
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: tide from rising. They're gonna stay me lonely.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well those shame no, those shame men for exposing
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: what these women are they're doing, Like on the whatever
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: podcast they usually have, like or the Fresh and Fit
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: podcast they usually have, like half a dozen girls show
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: up and it's like often it's new girls and all
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: of the OnlyFans accounts that they're plugging. They're actually going
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: on the podcast to plug their only fans, And no
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: point does someone say, like why are you doing this?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: But so like it's not like these women are delusional,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: they're not tricked into it. They're doing this willingly. They're
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: trying to make money because essentially there is no sense
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: of duty or like what is the way you should live?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Like I saw the gym bottle.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I just want to say this, he said, Alston, you're
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: a libertarian, dear, what's the problem. You know, I'm all
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: for libertarianism, but there has to be like a moral
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: framework that you're operating within. I believe in the freedom
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to do the good. I think that's more important to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: just do whatever you want because it's not necessarily going
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to give you the best outcomes for your life, because
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like it's I think
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: that these women would make the same case. They say, well,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: if there's I believe in the free market, and if
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: they're you know, if they're I'm gonna get paid for it,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna do whatever. And it's like, well, yeah,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you can. But if it goes bad for you, you
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: don't get to go back and blame men for that
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: because you're using them. You're using men to make your millions.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: So guess what, it's not their fault. They you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: they are the people you are exploiting, especially when these
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: girls do this girlfriend experience thing where they make these
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: men feel like they're special to them to extract more
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: money from them. But we're not supposed to say that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: that's immoral, Like you can be free to do immoral things.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not a but I still get to call those
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: things immoral.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Well, you could be free to do these things, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: don't blame the people that you're exploiting for them, Like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: do all of this, ladies, you can do all of this,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: You don't get to blame. You don't get to segue
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: into that part of your career where you're thirty plus
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and you start to say, while I was a victim,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: because this is what happens when they're young. They exploit
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: men sexually, well, they engage in this this kind of thing.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I won't say it's exploitation because both parties seem to
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: be aware of what's going on. That's fine, But it
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: becomes exploitation when they retroactively look at it and they
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: say I was exploited, And I'm curious. I don't know
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: if this monetizing men's loneliness. I personally don't think that
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: that's something that is moral. However, it is legal, so
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: go I guess, and I don't know the alternative. Like, honestly,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: if no I.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Can man it, I think that we would have to.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I think men have Yeah, they'd have to stop simping,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: But I don't think you can do that across the board.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But I think that we'd have to fix it at source,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: which is apparently that the average man is not attractive
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: to the average woman, and we'd have to figure that out,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: and that that that ties into a whole bunch of
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: other stuff. So this ultimately is a symptom of a
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: deeper problem. I'm not going to say that this I
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: don't know if men are going to be served necessarily
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: by taking away porn and only fans like this is
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: this is my ultimate point.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think so either.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying that this is this is necessarily bad. However,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: it always ends on blaming men, and if you can't
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: do what you want to do without blaming men, maybe
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't do it.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: And again I'm gar like this. Most likely that these
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: women will transition to a point of time where they
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: can no longer get the money that they want from
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: men's sexuality, and then they will switch to a to
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the other profitable way of exploiting women's value, which is
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to start talking about their victimhood. Now that like OnlyFans
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: is okay, maybe I could I could find an appropriate
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: thing to compare. Let's do a little bit more, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I'm getting into the bit here where we're going to
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: talk about the cost or like the actual benefits that
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: women have. Okay, the average woman. Let's let's continue.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: Something called the bop house is devastating to feminism. But
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: I do want to bring to like what I think
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: is the most disturbing aspect of it in the most
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: recent video.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Hey real, I just want to say it's not devastating
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to feminism. It is the actual product of feminism, Like
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: feminism made this okay, Like you don't get to say,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: oh my god, sexual liberation was a mistake. It's set
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: feminism back. No, feminism is the thing that created this
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: this world.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted if they wanted the they wanted the
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: people said. People essentially said, no, you can't do this
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: because this is bad for you young ladies. So we're making
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: this restriction so you're not able to do it. Feminists
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: were like, how patriarchal and patronizing. Remove those restrictions. And
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: now the restrictions are removed and girls are allowed to
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: make these choices, And what is she saying? It's exactly
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: what I was talking about, chasing your tail. Now they're
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: saying removing the restrictions is horrible oppression because they it
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: allows women to to create these these giant audiences of
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: extremely lonely men and take money from and that that's
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: horrible oppression of women. And now we're going to go
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: back to the freaking restrictions or I guess they'll well
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: there will it be. Is there a difference between legally
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: restricting women from going on only fans or legally restricting
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: only fans from existing, which incidentally will mean you've destroyed
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: a woman's a woman's business like OnlyFans is run by
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: a woman, so you will have destroyed a woman. So
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: either way, you're gonna be restricting or destroying a woman's
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: autonomy in order to enact this, And then in two
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: generations are the feminists going to be I can't believe
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: that it's so patronizing and patriarchal to restrict women from
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: doing these things. And it's like, it's like, could we
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: just stop? Is this the behavior of a serious civilization,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: a serious species, a species destined for the stars? No,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: it is not. It's the behavior of monkeys with opposable thumbs.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I think monkeys always had a posable monkeys with the
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: ability to think three minutes ahead. Like, that's it. We
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: need to move past this.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. Yeah, it's very okay, So anyway, just
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: about that bit right there. This is not setting back feminism.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: This is what feminism made. Until you internalize that, it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: just gonna get worse because you're not you're not identifying
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the source of the problem. And for people who are
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: saying it's not feminism, it's women. Almost everybody is a
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: feminist of some stripe, even if they call themselves anti feminist,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: non feminist, traditionalist, whatever. If they subscribe to feminist ideas,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: they're feminists. So it's it doesn't like, that's it, that's all.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: The label doesn't matter. Guys, whatever somebody calls themselves. That's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: like identifying as a fucking attack helicopter. If you say
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: you're not a feminist but you do all the feminist shit,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: guess what, you're a fucking feminist anyway, So it doesn't matter.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: It's okay for us to call it what it is anyway.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's not like just saying you, you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: saying feminism is limiting it too much. No, no, no,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: we have to point this out because almost everyone, almost
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: everyone subscribes and co signs on this ideology. The average person,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you have relatives that co sign this ideology. It's almost everybody.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing that you have to understand. They
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: can call themselves whatever they want, Okay, but that doesn't
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: make it true.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I just want to point something out. Women
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: were the ones who opposed the vote the most. Initially,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: women were the ones who voted conservative almost universally throughout
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the first three quarters of or the first two thirds
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of the ninth the twentieth century, and it wasn't until
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: feminism came that all of that got reversed. Usually men
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: would vote liberal. This is what was so surprising in
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: this election is the hard shift with men from liberal
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: or left to conservatism. Usually, for most of the twentieth century,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: conservatism was seen as more female and liberalism was seen
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: as more male. That reflected in the voting patterns. Then
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: there's this hard shift in the last couple of years,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: which is what people are getting up in arms about,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: because the Democratic Party has lost its base of liberal
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: young men. It's just it's shit on them so much.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: It had an interesting strategy. It's like, wholl there are base,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: why don't we keep shitting on them?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: But it eventually backfired on them. So, I mean, you could.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: It's not it was women who did the majority of
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: policing this shit in the past. Right, Who would who
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: would have told these women, these girls to knock it off?
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: And it don't get engage in this, but you know
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: the so it's not it is women, but it's women
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: with absolutely no sense of responsibility to anything but themselves.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: And if you can imagine if men wear that circumstance,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: it might look similar, except I think men are more
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: clined innately towards some kind of external metric for their actions,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: you know. But it's like, you know, imagine h Gilgamesh
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: or Gilgamesh before his epic, you know, that kind of thing.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: But there's no epic of Gilgamesh for women in our society.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: There they you know, and they don't. They don't have
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: aspirational goals like Mary the Mother of Christ. You know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: that's gone because we don't have those. We don't have
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: a real faith in those stories anymore. And I don't
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: mean that as a Christian thing. I mean that, you know,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: an aspirational story for women to say, this is the
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: kind of person I want to be morally, this is
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: what I want to try to live my life morally.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: That where is that? And our society is gone? So
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: it's all just materialism and blaming men.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going, all right, let's blame yeah, let's
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: play the next bit. We're gonna get into how much
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: they actually make.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: They are advertising for a new girl. Now I live
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: to the comments and Unsurprisingly, there are lots of people
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: tagging creators. A seventeen year old girl was the most
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: requested create to join the bull house. People want to
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: get seventeen year olds to join.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: The thing is, at this young age, you may not
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: see an issue with this, but as you grow up
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: and your frontal lobe develops, you learn more about yourself,
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: your beliefs, your values. You may change your mind and
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: that digital footprint sticks around.
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: You got to think about your future. And if you
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: happen to want children.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: You got to think about them as well, think about
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: how it could impact their life. Only fans may seem
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: like a quick path to wealth keyword seem but at
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: what cost?
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah it may like look appealing like money, like forty
• 48:33
  Speaker 12: three million dollars, but it's it's not worth it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It's not uh okay, I'm just pausing there for the banana.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: So she is trying to like he is trying to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: stir steer women, especially young women, away from this. But
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I think that maybe the idea is and we'll get
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: into it a little bit later in the video, but
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: she might believe that blaming men or putting men in
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: like a kind of a predatory frame is the most
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: effective way to do that. That's my suspicion. I don't know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: but she probably believes it as well. But anyway, let's
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: play some more. But there is a different path for you,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Like you'll make money.
• 49:14
  Speaker 12: It might not be forty three million dollars, but there
• 49:16
  Speaker 12: is a path for you.
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: I learned from my mistake.
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: I promise you.
• 49:20
  Speaker 12: Let me take these phones away and start putting bibles
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: in their hands.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: As an OnlyFans creator, you saush. Your body becomes a
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: product if you view us.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: To talk about a bit of religion there just briefly.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: What did she say?
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: What where? I missed it already?
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Who wasn't bibles in these these these women, these girls hands.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm not.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Sure if that's gonna be.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That's not really effective. Like fathers in their homes would
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: probably be better. I'm sorry, but yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I mean the question is Christianity. Does Christianity create fathers
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: in home? Do fathers and homes create Christianity? Or let
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: me put it another way, do fathers and homes create
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: daughters who are interested not in the easy way and
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: the lazy way, the prideful way, or in the way
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: that actually helps others? Se the only way you're going
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: to stop these women from doing this is if they
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: understand that to a certain degree they are exploiting the
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: men who that they're exploiting the loneliness of these men, Like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into This is a difficult
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: This is a difficult typewrote to walk because on the
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: one hand, yeah, this is an activity that is legal,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to say men can't do this.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: But on the other hand, this is only exists. This
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: entire the the size of this particular industry only exists
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: as it is the only reason why this woman is
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: allowed as able to make forty three million dollars is
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: because relationships between men and women have broken down so
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: appallingly as a result of this overwhelming exploitation of women's victimhood,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Like are the presentation of women's victimhood. So this is
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: the this is like something feeding on the corpse of
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: our society, and it's like, we we got to fix that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: But the only way to fix it is to actually
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: care about men at the end of the day, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: to stop blaming them, and to stop pretending that women
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: are victims of men, victims of the half of the species.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: That has evolved to make sure they survive childbirth, like seriously,
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and and and to feed the
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: resulting offspring as well.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, go ahead.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: As much as I don't want to say that they
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: people should be able to do this, I recognize that
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: this is a symptom of something very bad that needs
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: to be fixed.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I again, it's important to remember I
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: don't I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: gonna guess that the majority of girls are not doing this,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and the majority of guys are probably not doing this either,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: because you know, even when it comes to like porn consumption,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: you can find free porn everywhere, so it's not I
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: think that most men are not buying only fans accounts
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: or paying for only fans, and most women are not
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: creating or are content creators on the platform. So we're
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: we are talking about a minority, and I think that
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: it does there is a societal cultural problem with it,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: where you know, depending on how the girl grew up,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that she's more likely to go down this road. It's
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: not just because like if you're getting like sufficient love
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: from the people around you, your family, maybe you're not
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: gonna seek the attention elsewhere. Maybe you're not going to
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: be around, like, you know, peers that are gonna pull
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: you in that direction, you know. Uh, so, yeah, we
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: are talking about a minority and I wouldn't want to
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: ban or illegalize anything.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I think people have to choose that.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: It just occurred to me the difference between porn and
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: only Fans is actually a perception of a connection with
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the creator. So you're this is actually cult of personality,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: like only Fans is more about.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Social relationship, yeah, whereas just going on the internet for
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: porn is much more anonymous and uh and less like
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: you don't I assume you don't make more of a
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: connection with the character of the person who's acting out
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: this is, this is actually selling the girl as a person.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Ironically, people aren't recognizing that like you are. This is
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: you are giving this money to a specific person, not
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know, a set of fetishistic acts. And I
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: think that actually really speaks to what I'm saying, that
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: this is a reflection of the breakdown of relationships that
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: that they're creating this this ability to have this parasocial
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: relationship with a woman like this, right, that is making
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: so much money, possibly even more than the usual, more
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: disconnected kind of porn. Isn't that interesting though, because they're
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: giving money to a specific woman, not a category of
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: porn on only fans. They're they're they're they're purchasing the
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: perception of a relationship. And I'm saying that this particular
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: industry could only come about because of the destruction of
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: the relationship between men and women as a result, in part.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: In part, I mean because I think feminism is also
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: itself a symptom of this whole idea that men oppress women,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: which can't do anything but destroy the relationship between men
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: and women. So now we're sort of at the end
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: of that cycle, and we're seeing men spend millions of
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: dollars for a personal connection. And I hate to say it,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: but you know, romantic relationships are sexual, So it is
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: a personal connection with a romantic partner. This is the
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: perception that only Fans is giving. This is the perception
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: that they're giving. And this is like, this is categorically
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: different than porn and past like it almost is its
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: own thing entirely because because of that perception of a relationship,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: and like I said, the destruction in people's actual relationships.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: The loneliness is leading to this, and I mean the
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: way that I could see that this is a harm
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: for these young women, I mean you could you would
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: have to buy into a moral framework first of all, right,
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: but the other or if you just looked at personal harm,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: how are they going to relate to men after the
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: money drives up? Are they going to go into like
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: are they going to be able to have a relationship
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: with a man after all of this? I mean yeah,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: are they just going to transition into the usual? I
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: blame men for what I will. I chose of my
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: own free will, Like they they're there to blame because
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: they gave me the opportunity. I can't imagine the reverse.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the reverse attitude, Like women
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: have some kind of failing that men exploit. Oh the
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: beauty industry, right, beauty industry makes bank over men's women's insecurities.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Do we blame women for the beauty industry because they're
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: all being manipulated by their insecurities? No, we blame men
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: again for giving women the opportunity to indulge aspects of
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: their of their of their insecurities, their jal and other
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: things like. What I'm trying to get at is it's
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: an industry that sort of exploits a need or a
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: flaw or something that that they're contending with. Women are
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: contending with, which is insecurity over their looks. It's an
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: industry that exploits that. But do we say, well, women
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: are responsible because they're purchasing all of this stuff and
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: paying attention to this, right, we don't. The industry is
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: responsible because it's selling them, you know, this this insecurity
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: or it's selling them the solution to the insecurity and
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: the insecurity. What's the difference here? The men in only
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: fans are just the market and suddenly the market is
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: to blame instead of the marketers. Yeah, that doesn't hold
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: true for any other situation. But this m because it's men,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: you know. And if if if women were touched, starved
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: and hungry for relationship ships and you had i don't know,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: the male version of OnlyFans doling this stuff out in
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: pittances to women in exchange for huge amounts of cash,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: if there was any kind of social recognition that women
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: were having to pay to purchase, they would never frame
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: that in terms of women being the ones who were
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: wrong and the people selling this to them being the
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: ones who are right. Never ye never, if women had
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: a need, we can barely conceive of the idea that
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: they should have to pay for it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Like, let's keep going, She's going to
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: talk about how much they make.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: That can be tough for anyone who's seeking love or
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: real genuine connections. While there are some that genuinely enjoy
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: the work, I believe most people do desire stable relationships
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: and again, possibly a family in the future, which can
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: be difficult to navigate as an OnlyFans model. I worry
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: that many, especially young girls barely of legal age, don't fully.
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: Understand the long term effects.
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: Of doing this line of work, the effects of entering
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: the industry at an age of art.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: You cannot articulate the long term effects. Okay, And the
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: reason why does she? You watch this whole thing? I
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: also watch some of it. Does she ever clearly articulate
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: what the long term effects are?
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Well, just that women are going to struggle in relationships,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: but not necessarily like the big picture problems.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, she doesn't she And again the long
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: term effects go back to the woman. Well, it doesn't
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: freaking matter because if you're you're talking to an eighteen
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: year old girl who's basically brain de in in, a
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: bit of a sociopath, just like everybody is that age,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: and you say, wow, you I might be giving up
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: a relationship with the very group of people that we
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: say harm you more than anybody. I mean, you could
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: be giving up a relationship in which you wipe a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: man's ass and do be his maid and his mom
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: and take care of snot nosed kids and all of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: this shit. You could be giving that up on the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: on one hand, and on the other hand, you could
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: only make forty three million dollars a year. I mean, like, lady,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: you got to straighten out your rhetoric around relationships with
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: men before you can say, think about what you're giving
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: up when you when you're choosing not to have what
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: feminists say is a relationship in which you'll be exploited
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: for your emotional labor, for your sex, for your housework,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: for your baby making ability. You're gonna be exploited in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: every possible way by a singular man, and all you're
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: going to get back is maybe getting your bills paid Versus, Hey,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: you can have even less exploitation than marrying a man
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: and make forty three million dollars. And she's trying to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: say that this is a this is a this is
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: this is a framework that's gonna stop these girls from
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: going in and making forty three million dollars. You get
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna basically say to women and girls, you get
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: in a relationship with a man, you're gonna be exploited sexually,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: emotionally in terms of your housework, your labor, your time,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: your money, everything. And that's if you' and that's the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: best case scenario. Worst case scenario, you're gonna end up
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: dead in a crash. Ben right, This is what they say.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: And you are trying to turn around and say, hey,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: you might give up your ability to have a relationship
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: with what we consider to be the spawn of the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: spawn of Satan, like you might get that up, like, oh,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You gotta work out your you gotta work
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: out your sales pitch here, lady, because as long as
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: you are cert that a relationship with a man is
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: possibly the most deploited of situation a woman can get into,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: these young women don't even have to be dumb or
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: not care about themselves to say, m So I can
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: like live a lower middle class lifestyle being exploited by
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: one single man, or or I could shoot for the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: moon to make forty three million dollars being so called
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: exploited by men. But if they piss me off, I
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: block them, you know, and I mediate. The entire relationship
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: is mediated by me and money. You you have no
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: leverage here, lady, because the entire framework of what you're saying,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: the entire framework of what feminism says about this situation.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Any intelligent, reasonable girl listening to everything you say about
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: the relationship between men and women will choose the only
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: fans because of your rhetoric. You guys, are driving women
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: to do this, because not only do you sell marriage
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: as the most exploitable situation a woman could possibly get into, right,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: and you don't even get a lot of money out
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: of it. Not only do you sell the marriage and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: relationships with men as a terrible idea, a terrible investment
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: for women. You don't present women with any kind of
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: understanding of the greater consequences of these actions, so there's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: no sense of, hey, this is actually really destructive to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: our civilization, our society Ultimately, if we don't get in relationships,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: we don't pursue productivity in that way. So there's no
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: exterior moral goal that you tell them to rise to.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: There's no well this is sort of a sinful lifestyle.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: So you got nothing. And in fact, feminists are the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: dry for women into only fans, and they blame men
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: because men are also being driven into only fans by
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: feminist rhetoric. And I'm sorry, I'm not gonna just say women,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: because feminist rhetoric is a specific thing, right, it is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: a specific framework. It's something that didn't exist before it existed,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So this is feminist rhetoric
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: is driving the loneliness epidemic by presenting marriage and relationships
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: as exploitation for women. So women start increasing their standards
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: unbelievably to compensate for all the exploitation that they think
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: they're taking on. Relationships break down. Everybody's flipping lonely, right,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: everybody is dealing with that. Men go to only fans
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: to feel like a moment of connection with a female,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: and women go to only fans to get attention and money,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: which they've been told is probably the least exploitative way
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: to interact with men. All of this is being driven
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: by this crap. And let me tell you, feminism is
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest exports of the US federal government apparently,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: as we've been finding out with USAID. So it's like, yeah, great, okay,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: well we are and then we're gonna blame men again
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: for all of this, because God forbid, we blame our
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: own stupidity. All right, let's keep going.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: All right, play some more even fully developed.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know about y'all, but when I was these
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: girls age, the young girls now that are just mindlessly
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: scrolling on TikTok, I was out there playing with my
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: friends in the neighborhood. Honestly, I was still playing with
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: my brat's dolls. I played with those like a very
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: ripe age, having sleepovers with my girlfriends, making cookies, watching
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: silly romcoms. The good old days, when social media wasn't
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: a big thing. My role models were girls like Vanessa Hudgens.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I'm skipping ahead. I thought she was going to get
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: into the money thing, but.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: The pressures from social media, it seems like there's no
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: awkward preteen phase.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: So she's blaming social media now again, Like if there
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: are parents in the home, they will put restrictions. My brother,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: my little brother, has a daughter and he kept her.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: He didn't get her a phone until she was like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: eighteen or nineteen or something, when she was in college,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: and so she never really went into that whole thing,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: you like, because my brother is her father and he
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: established his boundaries. So you know, I mean, it's not
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: like a thing you can't do, you know. So I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: just don't like when people.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Blame these large abstracts.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Social media does this. Well, I'm on social media and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I haven't made a OnlyFans account despite every one begging
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: me to. So I mean, uh, it's not it's not
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: it's not a good reason. It's a bad excuse.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 9: Anymore.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 12: Why aren't kids stay having ugly and awkward phases? Like
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 12: all my friends and I went through weird awkward phases
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 12: in middle school and we share those pictures with each other.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 12: And when I look at middle schoolers now, I'm just
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 12: like you guys have grown, like they fully know how
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 12: to do their makeup. They're dressed in Lulu, Lemon and Zara,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 12: and I'm just like what and like the colorful luggings?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: Like why is no one wearing them.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: I wanted to do a whole video on that because it's.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Just why again, you're doing that.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Lady, Yeah, you're on the you're on your phone applying makeup,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: talking about where are do women? Where are little girls
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: doing this?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: This is what? Like why can't women see that their
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: actions influence girls? Like why? That's all it is? Like
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: what you do and what you say online, children will
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: come across it at some point, little girls are going
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to see it like you you and then you what
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: that's you know what this is the thing. That's That's
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: what I was gonna say. When when these women say
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: social media is to blame, that's just like when feminists
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: say society instead of women. They when when they mean women,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: they say society, when they mean men, they just say men.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: So like that that and when they say society, they're
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: hoping that you don't think of women, you just think
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: of men anyway. So when she says social media did this,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: she's saying women did this.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: I got a I got a bit of a cat
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: uh catastrophe, a catastrophe. I just I want to say,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. Like literally we're watching women saying where
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: is this?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, alson, you're muted, You're.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Watching women say where is this coming from? As they're
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: doing the thing that they're asking where is it coming from?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: This is like peak syllopsism, And I don't I think
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: it's I don't think it's necessarily women's fault because nobody
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: is telling them except us, and we have like what
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: fifty people watching us, And I feel it's like the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: feels like it feels like having a species in which
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: half of the species has no understanding that when it
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: does something, something happens is not cannibal long term. So
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like this message is really critical, and it
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: concerns me that we're the only ones saying it's I mean,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: I know there are other people who talk about men's issues,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if they point this out and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: in a way that this is this is not healthy
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: and this is not normal. It is not normal for
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: that woman to sit there being an influencer influencing girls
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: to know how to do their makeup and not be awkward,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: and then say, well, why aren't we girls? Why do
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: girls know how to do their makeup and not be awkward?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's that's uh, that's not normal. That level
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: of inability to recognize the consequences of your actions not normal.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: This woman we see on screen right now, and her
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: inability to connect women to the consequences of women's actions
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: not normal either. This is this is not I don't like,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I don't You could say, oh, this is just female nature.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: How could these women possibly survive in anything approximating nature? Like,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: I know that women are generally sheltered. They're not. They
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: weren't that sheltered during the process of our evolution, is
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, this is like, this is like
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: a woman throwing bits of deer meat at a grizzly bear,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: and then, like in a in a hunter gatherer society,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: there is going to be debate the berayer towards her.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: There's going to be some point at which nature applies
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: pressure on these women to understand that their actions have consequences.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, was coming here.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Reality would have been coming throughout the evolution of woman
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: cut kind as well, when men didn't have the ability
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: to shelter women this much until this point in time.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Up to this point in time, reality came a lot
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: harder and a lot faster, and a lot quicker and
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: a lot more deadly. So this appears to be a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: construction of the most rarefied harem ever in human history.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: And this can't be just women, because if the if
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: you took these women and put them in the wild,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be that they just didn't understand survival survival.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't even have the ability to perceive the connection
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: between their actions and their consequences in order to develop
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: the ability to survive. Like these are creatures that cannot
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: exist in any circumstance but the one in which means
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: they didn't exist in the past. This is not a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: woman that could have existed fifty seventy five one hundred,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: two hundred, one thousand, one hundred thousand years ago. This
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: creature is some kind of modern mutated goblin.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and too much security, too much.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Security, and they are all showing that, every single woman
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: in this video is showing the same problem.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're way too sheltered.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Way too sheltered, way too unable to make the connection
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: between doing A and consequence B. And this is insane.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: And like I said, there's nobody else who seems to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: be pointing this out. Audience of fifty I really appreciate
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: you guys, at least we have you, But this seems
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: like it's a really critical thing, you know what I mean?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: You know that women completely lack in this dage age.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna play more.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: I remember when I was in junior high, I would
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: wear like pink leggings with a green air of hostal
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: t shirt, different colored bows in my hair, and many
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: different colored eyeshadows.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: You were still trying to look pretty, though, Like this
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: isn't like that different.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: The time, for sure, but you don't see young girls
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: go through that phase anymore, the Claire's phase.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: I wasn't allowed to watch shows or movies that were
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: rated R or eighteen plus.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: My parents said absolutely not.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: Now there's so much more content unrated on the internet
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: that is easily accessible to these young girls, content that
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: children can be exposed to and parents have no idea.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: But these girls aren't looking up times.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Don't have any idea.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why don't they? I mean, that's just it
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: though she doesn't. That's another thing that she's kind of like, Okay, wait,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: my parents, Like when you said parents that should have clicked,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: my parents didn't let me do these things that I
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: didn't think were appropriate, and this is whatever, right, and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: these girls don't have that.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Well, is that not the thing?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I mean? I already made the case about my brother,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: but I also have like a couple friends of mine
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: that have had kids that they did the same thing
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: with their kids. And it wasn't just their daughters, by
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: the way, it was also their sons. So it's not
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: like their daughters were special, you know. But for the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: for the guys I know that are my friends that
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: have boys, they did the same thing, so they didn't
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: want them ending up being Simpson.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: It's girls like this now exploiting and integrating themselves for
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: large sums of money instead of using their talents their ideas.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: It just feels like we're moving backwards as women when
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: our bodies are valued more than our minds.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you're doing that to yourself though, Like, oh, women
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: that are doing that, men aren't doing that to them. Again, yeah,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: men are doing this to themselves. When you say we're
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: moving women back, that's another one of these collective guilt things. No, no, no,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: you are moving women back. Maybe not you specifically, but
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: women are doing this with other where they're doing this
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: with girls. There are women on the internet that have influence.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: That's why they're called influencers, and they're influencing girls to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: act that way, and they're selling them, you know, like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: maybe like an I lifestyle or an idea or you know,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: of materialism that they can only acquire or that they
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: are best able to get while they are young and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: you know, post puberty whatever, and so girls are listening
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: to women and the like. That's it.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: So you can't be like women are moving backwards. Well,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I mean that's not men's fault. Yeah, in my opinion anyway,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: But okay.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: Lately, it is just really discouraging to see things like
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: this the Bob House, Lily Phillips sleeping with one hundred
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: guys in twenty four hours, Bonnie Blue sleeping with one
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: thy fifty.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: Seven and twelve hours. So obviously it's not just the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 9: Bob House.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: There's a ton of other onlyfan influencers out there with
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: huge social media presence. They are honestly starting to become
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: the new mainstream influencer. OnlyFans in general is becoming very
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: mainstream social media influencers, and onlyfan models are kind of
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: merging into one. And they even have fan pages, and
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: I'm talking like a strong fandom, like I'm talking the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: energy of like Team ten. Did I just unlock a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: memory for anybody?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: Sophie Rain did say that she doesn't want girls thinking
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: this lifestyle is all sunshine and rainbows. She doesn't recommend
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: quitting your job for OnlyFans. In my opinion, I feel
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: with the type of content she boasts with and without
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: the girls she is, whether it's intentional or not, because
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: the way these girls flash their money.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. If Sophie Rain wanted to, he could.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: If she really wanted to, like, let's say, discourage young
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: girls from joining OnlyFans, she could publicly quit OnlyFans, erase
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: all of her content, and donate like ninety percent of
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: her money to charities. And then then then women would
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: see that and say, Wow, what a brave move, what
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: a crazy thing to do. But she's not gonna do that,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: So she was gonna say from her mansion, Look, it's
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: not all sunshine and rainbows, ladies.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: You know, you can't you can't be You're not like
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: I'm the only Sophie Rain, I'm the only one that
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: can do this. You can't do this while she like
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: eats her caveat and SIPs her champagne. So it's not
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: it's not enough to just say like, oh, I don't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: think that's for everybody while you're collecting millions and millions
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: of dollars.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about what would actually show, Like
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I was talking about the life cycle of women like this,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: and they go through this process of basically taking the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: money doing the sexual stuff, however sexual it is. Seems
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: like this is pretty tame compared to porn in the past. Honestly,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think OnlyFans is the worst of it.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: And friends, oh catter bait like the cam girls have
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: been around for as long as there have been webcams,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: so mm hmmm yeah.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: So I mean, what what I'm trying to get at
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: is if they really regretted this, they could give the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: money back.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm yeah exactly, like give the money
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: back then, or whatever, donate it whatever, just say oh,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: you know what this was, This was eating away at
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: my soul. I can't do this anymore. I'm gonna give
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: all the money back, or I'm gonna donate the money
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm gonna do something constructive with it, you know,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: send it to like whatever. But no, they're not doing
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: any of that. They're just like saying, oh, yeah, I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: have regrets crying into their fucking one hundred dollars bills
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: like so, like I mean, and that's the thing that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: comes across as is disingenuous and disingenuous.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I will believe that one of these
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: women really genuinely regrets their actions when they take whatever
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: is left the money that they made, because I know
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: that they're going to have used some to live on.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: They're going to use some to build stuff and maybe
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: it you know, maybe make it, like put in it,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: create a trust fund for themselves so they can live
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: a reasonable life whatever, and take the rest of it
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: and donate it to a men's charity.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: That's just a men's shelter.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, build a men's shelter. That's when I believe that
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: you regretted what you did. That This is this is
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: this is the this is the bar for all of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: the former prostitute Christian women. When you take everything that
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: you have left, I'm not going to begrut you a
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: reasonable income like something lower middle class live on and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: trust fund that kind of thing, maybe to give you
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: an incentive to actually earn more money some other way.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to regret you that, but everything else.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Take it and put it into a men's charity or
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: a children's charity. Hey, not another charity that basically is
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: exploiting women's victimhood for bucks, a real charity. Right, do that,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: and then I'll believe that you are repenting of what
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: you've done it or you are repenting of your lifestyle. Okay,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: until that's the condition he spread it around, that'll be
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: the condition. Give your money back to people who need it,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: all right, listen to.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 9: Some more and luxury purchases.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: It just comes off in a very recruiting way in
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: my eyes. And when you hear how much these onlyfan
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: creators make, it's very easy to fall into the fantasy
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: of it all, the fantasy I'm making thousands a month?
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 12: How much did you make this month?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Six million?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: Next person? That was underwhelming.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know even I ushaw, how much did you
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: make last month?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: I'm like, enough, do you feel poor yet?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 9: How much did you make last month?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: So?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Who is she talking to when she says that, who
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: is she talking to? Is it the men?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: One a million?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: How much did you make last month?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I just made one hundred k? Yes, oh there you are.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't like, yeah, you dropped, or from my perspective,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: sorry you dropped. Oh okay, from your perspective, I guess
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: I just had an interruption in my Internet or something.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, okay, yeah, perhaps, Okay. So I'm gonna go
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: back a little bit so you can see this. So
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: she basically says that the average content creator makes about
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: Wow, But realistically, the average onlyfan user makes about one
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty to one hundred and eighty dollars per month.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: And what I was gonna say is that.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I would guess that because it isn't There isn't a
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: lot of work that goes into making content for OnlyFans.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: They're probably just doing that like I wouldn't even it's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: either a side gig or even like less than that.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: It's just like randomly deciding once in a while to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: put something up. I don't know, if I don't know
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: how it works, don't care. But even then, it's an
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: extra one hundred and fifty dollars a month, like on
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: top of whatever else.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so I'm having some serious lag with my video.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's the like we're dealing with
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: a really bad cold snap here.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: So it might it might be affecting your tubes.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds. Yeah, it might be affecting.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: What happens is that the lines gather a lot of
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: hoar frost and they break, So that might be having
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: a that might be part of the problem today. So essentially,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: it's so cold that water just freezes from the air.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Actually it's so snowing. It's snowy here, but it's it's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: it's not too bad.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is there. When it's cold enough, it doesn't snow.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: It can't snow. So it's like we're at well, last
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: night we went down to negative fifty six fahrenheit, so
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: today we're probably at like negative thirty fahrenheit. No no, yeah, no, no,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: but maybe like negative twenty. But yeah, this is this
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: is pretty it's pretty cold here. It's it's the kind
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: of cold where you don't want to walk outside for
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: and be outside for too long because if you if
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: anything happens, and sometimes things do happen, you might freeze
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: to death. So you know, if I disappear, guys, you'll
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: know why.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll well, maybe we should try to get through
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: the rest of this before.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: In like a slow dress somewhere. You know, it's actually
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: getting better tomorrow. It's going to be going more towards seasonal.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: It's like four times colder than or actually, let's see,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: usually seasonal is like negative eight celsius. I don't know
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: what that is fahrenheit, and it's been getting down to
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: negative forty, so it's about five times colder than normal. Yeah,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: I mean it's not too bad because we're used to really,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: really really cold weather, so it's not like our it's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: not like our cities are exploding like what happens sometimes
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: in some states that aren't. But uh, it's uh, it's
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: not a fun time. It's the dog is not enjoying
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: himself at all. No, Plus, he tore his dew claw
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: yesterday or a couple of days ago, so he's not
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: he's not having a fun time. It's it's it's a
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: bad time for skip you. The cat's fine though, she's
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: just sitting on the couch. But yeah, I would guess
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: that the extreme cold is probably why my internet's a
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: little bit e hinky.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll just try to get through it.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 9: So yeah, all right, more.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Is how many more time codes are, which equates to
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: just to that.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Let me see, Uh, there's like two. I think we
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: can like finish this off. We're almost at the end
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: of the video too.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: So no, there's per year you could make more starting
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: an Etsy store or just your average everyday job working
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: at McDonald's, for example. So the reality is this lavish
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: lifestyle is for a very small percentage of people. Many
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: people don't realize how challenging it actually is to make
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: money on OnlyFans, and aspiring to become an OnlyFans model
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: is not as straightforward as it seems. The market is
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: very much oversaturated with tons of people joining, including celebrities,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: so to have success it requires a lot of strong
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: skills in marketing, business, and social media to stand out.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: What makes this situation harmful to society beyond the impact
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: of these young women, is that it's taking people away
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: from vital jobs that are often difficult. It's alarming that teachers, doctors,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: et cetera. Can make more money on OnlyFans than in
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: their profession.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 9: That's why they're leaving. And these jobs.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Probably why women became wives in the first place, because
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: the risk to reward ratio is much higher. And what
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: maybe this is like a cycle everybody, all the women
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: become horse, let's be honest. And then it's like they
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: realize that that system just rewards some women a whole
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: hell of a lot and then most women not much
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: at all. And then they're like, wait, wait, what are
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: we doing? Sisterhood? Sisterhood? What is that? Like, Captain Planett,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: come together? Sisterhood?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Why your powers combined?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, no, the sisterhood?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: What is the word come together?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Like a like a sentai like voltron, Like what are
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: Why am I losing? No? Not gets talt, It's like
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: come together. It's like a word that means come uh,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: sisterhood assemble.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Sister assemble.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: I call upon monogamy so that every woman at least
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: gets something from the system, right, because this this is
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: like big winners, big losers. And it's interesting how she's
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: focusing on a big winner instead of a loser, Like
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: why didn't she go and interview a woman who's making
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: like fifty bucks eat a month for showing up that
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: bra blouse. And while she feels about this situation, right,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: why didn't she go to interview somebody like that instead?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Or go look at someone like that or the words
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: of someone like that. Nobody cares, And that probably would
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: do more to sell young girls away from OnlyFans than
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: towards it is to talk about the failures the women
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: who aren't making a lot of money and how they
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: feel about it, Like how you feel about it when
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: you put your ass up on OnlyFans and you get
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: like nobody liking or and subscribing and giving you money?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: Like how does that feel? And that would probably sell push,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe make girls think twice, not selling the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: success and constantly saying, oh, not only is she so successful,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: but she's sort of a victim of the system too.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: So she's got that kind of shay of being a victim,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: because you know that when girls write their stories, their
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Mary Sue stories, the Mary Sue is often a victim
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: of something, right, because that's it's victim glamour.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: So not only are these OnlyFans models, so they getting
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: so much attention, so much money, and they're so adored,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: they have this woman selling them on the victimhood glamour
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: as well. So I mean, it's like everything that these
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: ladies are doing is selling this lifestyle, even this woman saying, oh,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: but they're actually victims of the system, because that itself
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: is selling it, because it creates this kind of cachet,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: this kind of mystique around these creators that you know
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: they're they're they're secretly crying into their pill, they secretly
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: have this this deep emotional drama involved in all this,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: Like could you sell this anymore? Lady? Like? Are you
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: an OnlyFans ed?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: All right, let's keep going compensated is a huge issue.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: The fact that's not only fan models are making more
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: than teachers, vets, nurses, doctors, athletes, et cetera.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 9: Is insane and it's really sad.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: And if the world contakes.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, wait a minute, here's something that
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I think I don't she doesn't say this, but let's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: let's think about that for a second. So only fans models, potentially,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: according to hey, it's Talia, this YouTube channel could make
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: more money than teachers, doctors, you know, and other veterinarians
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: like other jobs that are that contribute to society. So
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: then the question becomes Talia, Why are women putting how
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: much money they could make over doing something that is
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: good for our civilization, because like, OnlyFans models don't add anything,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: you know, we used to believe back in the day
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: that actors were on par with prostitutes in terms of
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: their status because they provided a distraction, some form of entertainment,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: but they weren't really like building something, like they weren't
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: like a fundamental you know, uh, part of our societ
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: that was really important. So we used to think of
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: them in this what they were like lower status before
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: the concept of celebrity came along, and celebrity status was
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: like the highest form of social status, right for like years.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: I think recently it's fallen out of favor because people
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: have realized that celebrities, most of them are idiots, and
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: so they they that status has been diminished to some degree,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: But women still very much want to be famous, right
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: or at least these these OnlyFans girls, so they are
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: actually like when she says, it's a shame that only
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: fans models make more money than vets and doctors and
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: teachers and so on, But like, maybe that's the wrong question.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe the right question should be why are women doing
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: a job that provides no value you even though it
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: makes more money. Why wouldn't they choose to do something
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: important and noble, right as a duty to your society.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Like I mean maybe even being a doctor is like oh,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a bit excessive, but a teacher or
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: whatever it is because it's too humble. So then like
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: why would they do that? They want to be famous?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Like there was like they did a thing where they
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: asked boys and girls what they want to do when
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: they grow up. I remember this. This came out and
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: boys would list off a bunch of things that they
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: wanted to do in service, like I want to be
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: a fireman, I want to be a cop. I want
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: to be an astronaut. I want to be you know,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: like all of these like service oriented things that boys
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. You know, I want to be a doctor.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I want to be a lawyer. Most of the time
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: it was like they wanted to be like a you know,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: an astronaut or or a fireman or something. But when
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: women were asked what they wanted, they would say, they
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: want to be famous.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: That's not even a job, but that's what they would say.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, girls would say that, right, they or it
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: was something like a princess, you know, like something a
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: bit like there's not really a job, it's just it's
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: just like a I don't know, like a position. So
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: I wonder what I'm getting from this is, just to
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: like wrap it up, is that she is saying that
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: it is a shame that women are not pursuing something
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: that is actually good for society and they're choosing only fans.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: And the shame is not that women are choosing it.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: The shame is that only fans offers more money than
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: those other jobs. You see what I'm saying, Alison.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I get what you're saying. It's again this
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: idea that if women are attracted to something that you
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: consider less optimal, it's not the woman's fault. It's the
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: fact that thing is attractive.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: And uh, and again, like I was thinking about that,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: all of those professions have an element of service to
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: the people that they're providing service for, like you know, doctors,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: lawyers to a degree, et cetera.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: But I can guess like they're boys, like I want
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: to be president like that, not want to serve.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the other thing, Like, here's another thing that
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: probably makes only fans more attractive than these professions where
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: it's about the people you're serving, not who you are,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: Like it's not about you, only fans isn't about the men, right,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it may appeal to the men, but only fans.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: Creators often absolutely despise men, Like could you imagine having
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: a doctor that absolutely despises six sick people? And that's
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: the situation. So it even only fans has the attraction
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: that you don't have to actually care about the well
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: being of the people you're supposedly serving, because by definition
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: they're harming you, you're not harming them. And that's the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: only fans arrangement is that the men are even though
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: they're providing in some cases huge amounts of money, for
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: the privilege of feeling like you are their companion for
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: what however long, you are the one who is victimized
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: by them, So you don't actually have to consider their circumstances,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: their well being, You don't even have to consider them human.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: And if you go into a so what I'm getting
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: is you don't even aren't even held to a standard
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: in relation to your audience, in relation to the people
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: who are giving you all this adoration of money. You
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: can regard them as scum and you can not care
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: about their well being in the slightest whereas in these
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: other vocations you actually do have to care. If you're
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: a doctor, you have to care about your patients to
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: a degree. You know you're not going to be lauded
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: if you don't. If you if you as a doctor,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: if you as an OnlyFans creator, go up and say, then, eh, eh,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: I hate men. I hate them. I hate the way
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: they smell, I hate the way they look, I hate
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: talking to them. I outsource that to other men. Oh
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: they're repulsive men. Nobody's going to be like, oh my god, Jesus,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: you're a horrible human being. But imagine a doctor doing that.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: I hate patience, oh repulsive, oh sicknesses, and I mean
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: they would be fired. So Onlyfan creators not only get
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: ootles and ootles more attention and money. They aren't judged
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: by how they treat their audience. They can treat them
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: with absolute repulsive contempt and they're it's considered acceptable. They don't,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: so there's there's absolutely no external control over that at all.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: They're never there's no Only Fans creators ever going to
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: be charged with any kind of malfeasance as a result
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: of their behavior towards their audience. So they don't have
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: they're completely free in that regard, almost completely free of
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: all constraints of being judged outside, and they get to
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: protect they get to feel like they're if they want,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: a victim of their audience, so the people they're taking
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: money from. There's no other profession that allows that level
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: of complete like you don't have to do anything, you
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: don't have to be judged in any way by the
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: people that you're taking money from. There's no other You're
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: completely autonomous, morally autonomous, like morally autonomous in a way
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: that your audience is more judged by their treatment of
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: you than your treatment of them. Right, Okay, your power
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: is not really seen as something that you need to
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: take responsibility for, okay. And in any other profession, if
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: you are put in a position of that kind of
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: authority or power, you are expecting to take responsibility for it.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: And we have women who are now generations upon generations
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: upon generations into a narrative that anytime they are expected
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: to take responsibility, it is in fact an injustice done
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: against them. And why would they want to be responsible
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: for a society that oppresses them.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm done, Brian, all right, let's play some more.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: We're getting close to the end here.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: It is this way under paying normal profession jobs. We
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: need humans to be taking part in this will continue
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: to spiral. Work is often picked up by those who
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: are struggling that cannot afford to pay for food, clothing,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: a home. It shouldn't be the first resort for freshly
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: eighteen year olds.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: The night you turn eighteen, you registered to vote.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: That's not what I.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, we thought I was gonna say, join the military.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: Nona, what I joined?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: You joined owner fans and you turn eight I think that's.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: Because she has no sense of obligation to anybody.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why would she registerrative for the draft? I think
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: that's a celebrity too, Like she was like on Doctor
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: phil or something. I think so well, kind of a
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: minor celebrity, I guess, so, Yeah, subscribe a troubled child
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: without a father. By the way, just saying, hence the
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: neck tattoos should be in jail. A ratchet ass like
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: looking piercings and hair.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: This line of work used to be looked down upon,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: not empowering. It's a concerning trend going on right now,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: So I just wanted to talk about it.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 9: I didn't.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not allowed to look down on anything women,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: do you see? That's what I'm saying, Like, why can't
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: you see that? Like this used to be looked down on. Yeah,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: you can't do that. Now everything women do, no matter
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: how old they are, is completely permitted, and that we're
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: not allowed to have negative opinions es. Actually men, you
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: guys told men to shut up a long time ago.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: So everything that happens now that has been permitted is
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: on y'all.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: It's on y'all, and y'all perpetuated it.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: So Tracy Williams is upset that I'm actually holding women
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: to accounts and says this is ridiculously wrong. Free market
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: dynamics will force the only fans model to cary there
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: at every rim or be replaced by the competition. Yes, eventually,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: but you could say that about everybody. You could say
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: that about celebrities. So if a celebrity engages in some
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: kind of sexual abuse of someone who's not a celebrity,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: is that acceptable because free market dynamics will eventually get
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: rid of that behavior. Like, seriously, do you think that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: the men who are, for example, making one of these
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: women forty three million dollars a year, all of those men,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: do you think if she is abusive towards one of them,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: the rest of them are going to be just, well,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: that's it, We're done. No, And if you think that,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: then all of this at rhetoric around men in power
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: being able to men in power like who have to
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: who are ultimately subject to voters, ultimately subject to audiences,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: then you don't think that that's possible that kind of
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: sexual abuse is possible as a result of that power
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: differential either. And also only fans creators have expressed really
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: negative attitudes towards men, and they still break in the dough.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Why because for the most part, the audience is it's
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: a seller's market, right. I know there's a lot of
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: women who don't make money, but they may also not
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: making money because they don't have a dedication to what
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: it takes or they just don't have the necessary skills,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: which isn't going to change, right, Like, if this one
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: woman has whatever it takes to make forty three million,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: there's not going to be that many other women who
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: have whatever it takes to make forty three million, so
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: she's not going to be replaced that easily. So you know,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: this is this is something It just doesn't cut it.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: Just saying oh, men to blame doesn't cut it, and
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: not looking at the situation and always seeing women as
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: a victim of stuff doesn't cut it, at least not
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: for me. Go to a place where it does. You
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: don't have to stick around here. Let the audience decide
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: you're an audience member. Okay, all right, Brian.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also she said something about, uh, there are two
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: only fans models who do kiss or slat prank on
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Miami Boulevard. One was a former engineer, the other chose
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: not to go to college. They are not necessarily stupid.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think we ever accused them of being stupid,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: But I do think it's unwise because you're not you
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: don't know what the downstream effects are going to be in.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Your life later on. So all right, but anyway, yeah,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: unwise is not the same as.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: Dumb drive into the moral shortcomings of men, just because
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: of course that comes into play here.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 9: We know this. We've been shaming men for this behavior
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 9: for years.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: I've received comments on my previous videos on Lily Phillips
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: and Bonnie Blue saying what about the men here? What
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: about all the men lining up to do these acts?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 9: And I get it.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: If these men were out here filling these girls pockets,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: this industry wouldn't survive.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: Sophiel Rain just revealed who her top spender was and
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: he spent almost five million dollars.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Those guy's get this guy who spent five million dollars
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: in Sophie Rain is going for Simp of the decade.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I guess he's gonna get a trophy.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, of course, the women that that this woman want,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: that watched this woman's content are like, weren't you talking
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: about the moon? It's a it's a planet of like
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: four billion men or something like that at least, yeah,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: well maybe about three and a half billion men some
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: of them. A thousand is like a tiny percentage. Yeah, okay,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna like? What? And she all what?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: They didn't want it, It wouldn't exist as a market, dude.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: Prostitution is the oldest uh, you know, it's the oldest profession.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: It's always going to exist and there's always gonna be
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: some men that are gonna pay for it. But if
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: those men had like wives or girlfriends. Guess what, they
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: probably wouldn't be looking to be like number seven hundred
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: and seventy nine in the Bonnie Blue, like you know,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: sex marathon. But even then there'd be some men there,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: like why are we again? This is coming down to
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: let's blame the men because the women who aren't even
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: doing this feel uncomfortable that a woman is being criticized somewhere.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Look, yes, there are four billion men
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: on this planet, and if a woman says, hey want
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: to take part in a gang bang, she's going to
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: find one hundred men.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: By definition, right, if a man said, you want to
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: take part in a gang bang where I have sex
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: with one hundred women and you'll get like a I
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: don't know, some crack at the end of it, he'll
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: probably find another one hundred women to take that offer
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: as well, right, they probably I couldn't only imagine how
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: horrifically awful the women that he'd find would be, but
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: he'd find them.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: You have to understand law of averages here. The women
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: who open these possibilities up are going to find men
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: to fulfill them. It is not the fault of all
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: men that marginal men exist. Okay, that is not the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: fault of all men. I mean, the thing is that
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: people get stuck up on this and you cannot make
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: it so. You cannot make a situation where a girl
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: can say, or a young woman can say, I'm going
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: to have a gang bang one hundred men, please come,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: and not there's there's probably no world outside of heaven
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: where you're gonna get this. Woman is not going to
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: find men, right, So the fact that these men facilitate
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: this happening does not lessen her culpability or sorry, the
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: fact that there exists enough men who will say yes
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: when she does a call out doesn't reduce her culpability.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: The only person who's making this the primary driver of
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: this is the woman engaging in it. And if this
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: was reversed, we would never even be having this argument. No,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: we wouldn't. And your tate does a call out, I'm
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: gonna do a hundred woman gang bang, how are the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: woman to blame? Are you freaking.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: You would never do that, and he would never. In
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: the instant, a man who's complete unknown, complete blame to
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: everyone did something like that, I'm going to do one
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: hundred women gang bang, and he managed to a he
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: managed to pull in one hundred women into it. There
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: is absolutely no way that we would have Internet keyboard
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: warriors saying, but how are the women to blame for this?
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: They are equally to blame, if not more. No, we
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: would be having things like, oh, did he use the
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: lover boy method? How did he convince them? We wouldn't
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: even be saying, hey, this is primarily his responsibility. We'd
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: be looking at ways that he was exploited, actively exploitedive
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: towards these women and did something criminal or at least
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: deeply immoral towards the women, not towards society or some
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: nebulous standard of morality. We would be looking at, how
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: is this man exploiting these women? How you construct this situation?
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with society that this was allowed, that these
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: women were allowed to be exploited in this manner? And
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: don't give me any bullshit that this isn't true, that
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: this isn't actually what you would do. The very people
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: are saying, well, how are the men to blame for
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: Lily Phillips would be saying, would never ever blame the
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: women in a one hundred woman gang bang scenario? Ever?
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: All Right, let's let's keep.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Going where this is the last one.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: So and by the way, this is what Andentty would
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: look like after the one hundred million women marathon. Sorry, okay,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: let's uh, let's play the rest of this now. His
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: name is Charlie.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 6: He spent eighty four dollars in subscriptions, over a quarter
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: million in messages, four million dollars in tips. Charlie, whoever
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 6: you are, please answer me this question. What could you
• 1:49:02
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• 1:49:09
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• 1:49:25
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• 1:49:30
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• 1:49:31
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• 1:49:37
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• 1:49:38
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• 1:49:42
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• 1:49:45
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• 1:49:49
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• 1:50:03
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• 1:50:11
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• 1:50:13
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• 1:50:17
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• 1:50:21
  Speaker 8: Giving you a sense of abundance of women that you
• 1:50:23
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• 1:50:25
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• 1:50:29
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• 1:50:32
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• 1:50:34
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• 1:50:37
  Speaker 8: don't even know you exist, and we can talk.
• 1:50:39
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• 1:50:42
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• 1:50:46
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• 1:50:50
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• 1:50:55
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• 1:50:59
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• 1:51:05
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• 1:51:08
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• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: saw a man with a who is like an author
• 1:51:17
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• 1:51:20
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• 1:51:23
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• 1:51:28
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• 1:51:32
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• 1:51:35
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• 1:51:39
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• 1:51:43
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• 1:51:48
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• 1:51:50
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• 1:51:58
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• 1:52:02
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• 1:52:06
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• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: form of entertainment. And if you're gonna say that it's
• 1:52:13
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• 1:52:19
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• 1:52:24
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• 1:52:27
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• 1:52:32
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• 1:52:35
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• 1:52:38
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• 1:52:41
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• 1:52:44
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• 1:52:47
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• 1:52:55
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• 1:53:00
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• 1:53:05
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• 1:53:35
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• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: Men, as consumers in the only fan industry, can have
• 1:53:44
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• 1:53:47
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• 1:53:52
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• 1:54:01
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• 1:54:09
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• 1:54:15
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• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: actual person that you interact with, as opposed to a
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: set of sexual fetishes that you find on porn hub,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: which I mean, I don't have a problem with, like
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: what I mean I do, Yeah, I don't know. I'm
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: probably a pretty late lass a fair about this stuff
• 1:54:35
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• 1:54:39
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• 1:54:42
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• 1:54:47
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• 1:54:54
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• 1:54:58
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• 1:55:03
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• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: don't even know what it means. Like they're they're literally subjectifying.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: If anything, they're seeing them as a subject a person
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: with a personality. It's not just like a torso unless
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: those women are doing that to themselves, which a lot
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: of them are, so you know they would they put
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: on costumes and whatever, right, so.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 9: Is their value to their content.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: This mindset can lead to lack of respect for the
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: women behind the profiles, making it difficult for creators to
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: be seen as whole individuals beyond their work. Additionally, women
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: can feel pressures for men to create.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: What what are you even talking about?
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Additionally blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: I mean this is basically the end. She basically says
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: that women can feel pressure from their audience to make
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: more content because the men are just like the thrall
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: that comes from the million simps that are like giving
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: them like fifty.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: Bucks a month, fifty bucks a month to send them
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: up five. Yeah, what the hell are you even talking about? Well,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: if you actually believe this, then go interview the women
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: in the gray handmaids robes. You see what I'm saying
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: when I say that is go interview the women who
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: didn't make it right and ask them about the pressure
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: that they have. Okay, And the other thing is, if
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: you don't like it, go get a real job. But
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. Continuously framing women as victims is why
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: we're in this mess in the first place. The only
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: way you're going to get these women to stop is
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: to hold them to a standard of accountability, because honestly,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: if you continuously frame women of victims of everything, then
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: they might as well have a forty three million dollar
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: bay check at the end of the day. Like I
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: went through the whole thing, women are victims of getting married.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: They're victims of being the maid, the sex therapists, or
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: the prostitute, and all of the other shit that feminists
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: say about being in a relationship with a man. So
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: how are you gonna use being in a relationship with
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: the man and the potential harms to that to argue
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: that OnlyFans is worse. You can't. You have absolutely no
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: leverage in every single It's exploitation all the way down, lady.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: That's the way feminists have framed every interaction between women
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: in society. So if it's exploitation all the way down,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: every way, the women turn every possible avenue, and even
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: in becoming a doctor, because you know, it's a male
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: controlled industry, And if it's a female controlled industry. It's
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: a ghetto. So it's exploitative. Every single possible choice a
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: woman can make, according to feminists, exploits her. So why
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: not make forty three million. At the end of the day,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: you want to actually make, You want to actually frame
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: something is less exploitative. Stop framing everything is exploited, right,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: And if you really want women not to do this
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: kind of crap, explain to them that they have a
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: responsibility as citizens of society to take jobs that help
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: others versus exploiting people's loneliness. That's why you stop it,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: Because get this, women actually do respond to a narrative
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: of responsibility. That's what actually made the number of women
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: in Stemfield's peak in the mid eighties, because in the
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: fifties there was this whole narrative about how you had
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: to go into science. Science was about professionals serving their country.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: As a result of the Cold War and the competition
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: between the Soviets and the Americans, they had a whole
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: bunch of ads that presented women in a professional context
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: doing science in service of their country, and women responded
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: to that. At least those women from those generations got
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: into those fields, learning them in the fifties and sixties
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: to peak in the mid eighties. You know, women do
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: respond to this, but you actually have to present it right.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: You actually have to challenge the narrative of women being
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: victims of men, women being victims of society, and present
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: the idea that women do have a responsibility to others.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: You know, and we don't do that. We have constructed
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 3: a generation of women who are some of the most
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: sheltered and like, like list look at all of the
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: logical errors in this video that come purely as a
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 3: result of women being incapable of recognizing that what they're
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: doing has effects in the greater world. We did this collectively,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: and I mean, this is not something that men can
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: What men can solve by holding women to account for
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: their behavior, which is very difficult in the symp economy.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: All men and women need need to rise up and
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: realize that this is not just bad for the our civilization,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: bad for men, it is terrible for their own mental health.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: So you imagine living in a field of rakes and
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 3: you keep stepping on the rakehead and hitting your face,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 3: and you just can't make the connection between you stepping
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: on the rakehead and hitting your face, how absolutely miserable
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: and depressing it would be, because you can never do
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: anything to change the pain of your life. That's where
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: women are at. It doesn't do them any favors, It
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 3: does men no favors, it does society no favors. We're
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: just fucking ourselves for no particular reason. And I'm sure
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: the aliens are watching us and shaking their heads or
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: laughing their heads off. Maybe we're like the Truman Show.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: We're just some gigantic panorama box. That's we're basically a
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: comedy for some galactic civilization. What are the dipedal apes
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: doing today? Oh Jesus Christ, not blaming OnlyFans thoughts for
• 2:01:05
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• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: that's it. Yeah, that's it. Okay, that's it.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: That's it. Okay, yeah all right, well.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's nothing else, So that's it.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is well, this is it. Like once again,
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: we've blamed men and refused to recognize women's responsibility in
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: the outcomes of their own lives. And then again we've
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: also refused to recognize feminism's culpability and constructing this entire
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: gigantic bullshit narrative, Like, if you say everything is exploitation feminists,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: then why wouldn't women choose the forty three dollars, uh,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 3: the forty three million in exchange for being exploited? But
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: you got to you gotta start refining your narrative, right.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: I know, maybe we can't make a step towards recognizing
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: women's responsibility to men, children in society, but maybe you
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: could start deciding there are points at which women aren't
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: exploited by everything around them, that women don't exist in
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: a continuous state of exploitation. Maybe you could just you know,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 3: so that you actually have leverage for the only fans girls, like, no,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: you're being exploited and only fans. Yeah, but I'm being
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: exploited everywhere else too, according to you, So why not? Right? Okay,
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: all right, So I'm I don't.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like we've I feel like we've put in
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 3: our shift.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, I did get a super shop, but for some
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: reason it didn't show up on my thing. I'll read
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: it really quick. It was a while ago, so I'm
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: sorry ZARAHANX, I didn't see it until now. He gave
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: us five dollars and said it harms them because of
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: the idea that they're wearing away they're by actively engaging
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: in the action that they wouldn't if the promise of
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: taking in large sums of cash was impossible.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: This is similar to the rejection of.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: Women with high body counts, or that you can't turn
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: a three or four into a housewife idea. The mind
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: is programmed by the wilful repeated action, and you have
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: a fundamental change as a result. The fact that women
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: are so much more impressionable drives the idea that women
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: engaging in these actions are harming themselves. Forgive me if
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: this came out rambly.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: I'm at work.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that, Zaraix. Sorry for not seeing
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: it until just now. Okay, I'm going to go on.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be say something really controversial. I think
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: that women are fully capable of taking responsibility for their lives.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think we need to deflect blame onto men.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 3: I think even that seventeen year old girl is responsible.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: I'm actually a little bit disturbed that she thinks that
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: people should men should go to jail for doing what
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: at that she's wanting them to do, right, I think
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: she could be held responsible I think the woman in
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: this video can be held responsible. I think all of
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 3: these women can be held responsible. They will not implode,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 3: and they're ovaries, won't fall out of their bodies, right,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: and it probably at the end of the day, if
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 3: they are, we're going to be women will have much
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: better women to choose from. You know, I don't. I don't,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I have my doubts. I know I'm bringing
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: up Christianity. I have my doubts that it's really Christian
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: to absolve women of their sins and say it's all
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: a result of men's lack of leadership.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: I think that there's still an element in Christianity that, yes,
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 3: men are supposed to be the moral leaders, but women
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: still have to make the choice to follow, and if
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 3: they don't make that choice, it is on them, right yep?
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So that now for sure, and we'll
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: close it out or do you want.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: To that's sure? Yeah, this is this has been I
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: feel exploited. That means I've done work. Yeah, let's face it. Okay,
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• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: don't see a lot of people talking about it in
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: the way that we do. I actually don't see a
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 3: lot of people talking about women's responsibility at all. There
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: is the there is the compulsion or the tendency to
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: just go back to the idea that men are responsible
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 3: for everything. So, for example, it's women's behavior is a
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: response of men sheltering them, which is true. But ultimately
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: women need to make this choice because men can control
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: their simping up to a point, and after that point,
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: women need to be responsible for saying no, okay, don't
• 2:06:15
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• 2:06:21
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• 2:06:24
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• 2:06:27
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• 2:06:30
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  Speaker 2: Maintaining Frame and we'll talk to you guys in the
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