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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football coging. They
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  Speaker 1: know what just happened. They understand that this being just
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  Speaker 1: made the playoffs to the first time in ten years.
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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, October seven. This is Jack Guars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Hey now, along with Pete Prisco and the president of
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  Speaker 1: the Andrew Norwell Fan Club, Jay Peace. Yes, Welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour The Truth, presented by Jed Holmelans J P. Shaddicks.
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  Speaker 1: That's Tony was selling ender of the Truth. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to be called today. Pete Prisco down in
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  Speaker 1: South Florida, CBS Sports Senior writer, we got a show today,
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  Speaker 1: fellas the Cell. He's all fired up. Priscoe is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fired up too. I think today, Pete, what's up man?
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  Speaker 1: A great great job? Drop in, Pete. I'm here. I said.
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  Speaker 1: We got to warn the audience that Tony has fired
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  Speaker 1: up today. Yeah, well he is. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: look on Twitter today being mean, I'm not being mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm warning you. The Twitter video told people to get
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  Speaker 1: out of here, right, I know. I just said wake up,
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  Speaker 1: let's pay attention watch the tape. This is like we're
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  Speaker 1: just gonna tell the truth today. That's all. Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the truth. This team lost the game they
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  Speaker 1: should have won. And why did they lose the game
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  Speaker 1: they should have won? But very simple defense. No two things,
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  Speaker 1: two yards of rushing. They gave up. Whatever it is
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  Speaker 1: the second word stay in franchise history. That's example one.
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  Speaker 1: Can't do that and win. Example too. Can't turn the
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  Speaker 1: ball over three times. Can't be can't turn it over
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  Speaker 1: three times once it led to a touchdown once or
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  Speaker 1: both led to touchdown to left to lead the touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: One was point blank deep in your own territory you fumbled,
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  Speaker 1: and the other they returned for a touchdown. That's fourteen points.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do that. That's why they lost the game.
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  Speaker 1: Run defense is atrocious, uh, atrocious, atrocious against the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: To the past defense was atrocious against the Broncos. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: teams are deciding, like we're just gonna move the ball.
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  Speaker 1: We'll pick our pick our poison. This week it was
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  Speaker 1: the run game, last week it was the past game.
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  Speaker 1: Who thought? Who thought that we'd be at this point
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  Speaker 1: in the season and it would be the defense that
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  Speaker 1: was the concern and not the offense. With the backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: One of the stars. So I mean it was you
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  Speaker 1: can't fumble the ball on offense. You cannot fumble the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Two of the moree mitsh you. One was on Norwell.
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  Speaker 1: It's the bottom line unless someone tells me the fullback
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  Speaker 1: came too tight, uh to mints you. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anyone's come out and said that yet. No. Doug
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  Speaker 1: Brown said that the quarterback needs to can't keep it.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna keep it tight. That's on mits You. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I saw on the tape. It was on Mitshew.
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  Speaker 1: So two on Minshew. One on Norwell, you can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Can't turn over the front seven the one we was
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  Speaker 1: bouncing around Tony where it was like he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to do what he did in Denver, where he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to find a little lane once in a million years.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do that, you know, you got to get
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  Speaker 1: there was no pressure. He was right, he started right.
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  Speaker 1: It was fanom pressure it was, and so he was
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  Speaker 1: trying to make now he didn't he was in the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: There was nothing there. A lot of quarterbacks like to
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  Speaker 1: bounce it out if there's nothing there after, you know,
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  Speaker 1: four seconds or so to get outside um. But you
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  Speaker 1: can't do it. I mean, you can't fumble the ball there.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to go win the game or tie the
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  Speaker 1: game late, you're on the thirty yard line, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot fumble there. One we're showing right now. That's
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  Speaker 1: on Norwell. I mean he got pushed like seven yards back.
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  Speaker 1: He got it. Happens. Okay, it's the NFL. Those guys
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  Speaker 1: get paid. Mario Addison is one of the best pass
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  Speaker 1: rushers in the NFL. He's got a six and a
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  Speaker 1: half second third best in the league. That he's a
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  Speaker 1: good player. It happens. I mean, I listen to all
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  Speaker 1: these people on radio and internet. Oh noe else. Norm's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: He's a bomb. He can't play. Give me a break.
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  Speaker 1: Watch the tape. You had too bad plays. That was
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  Speaker 1: a bad play against a very good player. It's unfortunate happens.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what. Every player in this league, every one
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  Speaker 1: of them gets beat, all of them. Everyone has a play.
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  Speaker 1: And Tony and you made a point before the show. Look,
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  Speaker 1: he's not as bad as being portrayed, and he's also
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  Speaker 1: not worth them close to being worth the money. Well,
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  Speaker 1: but Pete, come on, you've been doing this a long time.
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  Speaker 1: You overpay in free agency, that's what happens. Okay, we'll
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  Speaker 1: have the general manager had on you right now, if
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  Speaker 1: you had an opportunity to go sign him again, would
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  Speaker 1: you sign him when I sign him again? If I
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  Speaker 1: had the opportunity, That's the only question we could ask
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  Speaker 1: right now. Um, I actually I don't know because I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember the situation. Actually cannot remember what was our
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  Speaker 1: guard situation back there. I think we're desperate because we
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  Speaker 1: came off a year we had zero offensive line, and
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  Speaker 1: we needed people and we had a huge calf space.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you make it all right now as is?
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  Speaker 1: Would you sign them? Would I pay him as much
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  Speaker 1: as he's making right now? No? Yes, okay I would.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the fans get all up and on. But
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  Speaker 1: that's the wrong question right now, Pete, that's the wrong
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  Speaker 1: question to be asking Game five. That's a dumb question.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you're a reporter and not a GM because
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  Speaker 1: that's not the question you asked. You asked that question
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  Speaker 1: in February. Whether you want to go and tell him
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  Speaker 1: to take a discount February, you you can't because the
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  Speaker 1: cap reasons. But that's a whole another issue that I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna get into. But that's a dumb question. You
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  Speaker 1: don't talk about money in week five. You know you
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  Speaker 1: talked about is you look at the tape and you
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  Speaker 1: grade them based on what they're doing. That's what you do,
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  Speaker 1: and if you watch the tape. This year, he has
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  Speaker 1: played above average good at times, no above average good
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  Speaker 1: at times. He's been physical cool. I thought Sunday he
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  Speaker 1: was physical. He had two bad pass plays. He let
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  Speaker 1: geral McCoy get on an edge cause of pressure, and
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  Speaker 1: he got pushed back by Mario Addison. This is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I want to just say it again for everyone listening,
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  Speaker 1: because the people out in that I've listened to today
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  Speaker 1: and read on the internet, the people I'm not laming names.
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  Speaker 1: We name names on the show, but we name names.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put it in perspective. That was the number one,
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  Speaker 1: number one Pete rush pass rush team in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: in quarterback hits, in sacks. Guess some many hits that
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  Speaker 1: team had. Pete one one gets so many sacks they
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  Speaker 1: had two? Guess how many total yards the offense had
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  Speaker 1: over five hundred. Don't tell me the line didn't play
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  Speaker 1: well have over five hundred yards the total offense b s.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, that's what I'm talking about. You know what, JP,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, this reminds me when he used to
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  Speaker 1: take up for Luke Joko all the time. Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: Chrisco from the Top Rope. I saw Joko on the
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  Speaker 1: SEC network the other week. Of all things. Oddly enough,
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  Speaker 1: let's well plenty more on the offensive line to come. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a topic. We circle back
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  Speaker 1: to all program here we started here. It's the wrong
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  Speaker 1: thing to talk about as far as what the problem is.
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  Speaker 1: That's my whole thing. So let's talk about everything else.
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  Speaker 1: Will come back back right about that. It's not but
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  Speaker 1: that's all I hear, Pete. That's all I'm here. And
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  Speaker 1: that's where they open up on the shows and other places.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about. Internet. I get people saying
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  Speaker 1: we should bench him, get rid of him. He's no good.
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  Speaker 1: The offense line got blown back nine yards. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: it was at nine. It was ticks and a half
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  Speaker 1: and it was one play. Watch the rest of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys watch football? Do you watch it? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't know. I watched Zach Martin, the greatest
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  Speaker 1: guard in the history of the game, supposedly who plays
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  Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Who I think it's a very good player. Beat.
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  Speaker 1: I watched him get beat. It's like two Sunday nights
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  Speaker 1: ago he got beat. He got beat the other yesterday
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  Speaker 1: against the Cowboy beat. So it should we cut him?
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  Speaker 1: Beate to be time to take a pay cut? Is
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  Speaker 1: he awful? But please, I'm actually please, never ever, ever again.
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  Speaker 1: Compare Andrew Normal to Zach Martin. I'm comparing the situation
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  Speaker 1: pet of one play and over analyzing, over reacting. To
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  Speaker 1: one point, It's been more than one play a game
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  Speaker 1: for Andrew Normal. Talking this game, I'm talking about this well,
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  Speaker 1: other people are talking about the body of work. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not not, not the people on all right, let's
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  Speaker 1: come back and watch the body of work. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: through it. Let's come back. We'll come back. We're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna leave right now. Tired of the fat guys getting
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  Speaker 1: picked up. We'll circle back around. The offensive line, run defense. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they're one of the major issues. Yesterday. Miles Jack in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room had some things to say about it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I had a couple of in correct cause, so I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really gonna put that on myself, like to, I
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  Speaker 1: can't put it on anybody. With myself, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I gotta come back, I gotta be better, um, and
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  Speaker 1: I know it's this team to be better. So UM,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really putting that on myself. UM, I don't blame
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  Speaker 1: anybody else for myself. A lot of that sound in
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  Speaker 1: the locker him last night. You heard the guys talking
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  Speaker 1: about they missed their run fits, they were not the
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  Speaker 1: right fits. What does that mean? They're they're an eight
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  Speaker 1: man front their gap there their their gap defense. So
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  Speaker 1: they play eight up silas safety. There's eight gaps on
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  Speaker 1: a football field, and so they should have a man
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  Speaker 1: for every gap. And so if you have good run fits,
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  Speaker 1: you're fitting your gap. Gaps move as plays move, so
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  Speaker 1: you fit your gap. What we saw yesterday was zero
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  Speaker 1: gap fits and gaping holes on plays that it should.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people chasing ghosts all day long out of position,
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  Speaker 1: and then when we're in position, missing tackles. They tackle
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  Speaker 1: poorly too. That wasn't It wasn't just missing their gaps,
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  Speaker 1: they tackled poorly. The big thing was gap I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there were holes in there that I mean
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  Speaker 1: they were so bi Wow, come on, that's not fair.
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  Speaker 1: That's not fair. You could have you could have got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of first down speeds. I mean they were
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  Speaker 1: it was amazing. And then the backup running back comes
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  Speaker 1: in and the crack is even banker. Yeah, that was poor.
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  Speaker 1: It was bad. So one of the things we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna do anymore on this show. At least, we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about elite defense no more. No, no, what
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  Speaker 1: are they are? They average? The average? Pete said this
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  Speaker 1: defense had a chance to be one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: defensive history the NFL. The he no, I didn't say.
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  Speaker 1: I said one of the best defenses in the league
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  Speaker 1: this year history. That's what you said, Pete. Yeah you did, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you did. You're you're making them. He mentioned the Doomsday
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  Speaker 1: de Fancy mentioned the two thousand Ravens. He mentioned the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, Um, they're not elite. They're not good right now.
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  Speaker 1: They're bad. They're not bad there average playing well, they're bad.
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  Speaker 1: You never bad yesterday. They weren't good in Denver. They're
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  Speaker 1: an average defense right now. So against Marioda, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: So what is the most pressing issue now? And How
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  Speaker 1: do they fix that? What is the most pressing issue
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  Speaker 1: the run? How do you fix run? Is it a
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  Speaker 1: discipline thing? Is it an individual player thing? Do you
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  Speaker 1: be a hero on every play? That's first of all,
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  Speaker 1: it's individuals, right, It's like doing your job. Just do
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  Speaker 1: your job. Okay, Belichick, that's it, though, Pete, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: That's defense. Do your job. Stop running around trying to
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  Speaker 1: be a hero. Do everyone else's job. Do your job.
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  Speaker 1: Let's name names on the runs, and you you tell
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  Speaker 1: me who's the blame for him? Ready, go ahead. The
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  Speaker 1: linebacker level was terrible. Number one, Quincy Williams got benched,
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  Speaker 1: that's how bad he was. And Myles Jack was wildly
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  Speaker 1: out of position and did not play well. And he's
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  Speaker 1: he just told us that the linebacker level was not good.
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  Speaker 1: What happened with Williams blocked, poor tackles, bad gaps, all
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  Speaker 1: of the above, and he started he was getting it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the weird thing. Did he get anything yesterday? Then? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he got shook a couple of times by McCaffrey on
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  Speaker 1: the eight four yard run. With it, there's no one there.
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  Speaker 1: Run that back rewind. They're all running towards the really okay, stop, stop,
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  Speaker 1: go back, go back. Watch Pete. It's amazing. Where please
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  Speaker 1: rewind that one more time. He's the left linebacker. He's
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  Speaker 1: going with the reverse action. We're watching this on Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: dot com Jaguars dot com and you can play it
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  Speaker 1: back again. He got Samuel on a reverse action. That's
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  Speaker 1: where Miles Jack's going. Both linebackers going like saying, please
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  Speaker 1: come down the middle because there's Yeah, the two guys
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  Speaker 1: on that are on the down part of that play
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  Speaker 1: got blocked too. Well, they got blocked. Okay, it's one
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  Speaker 1: thing to get blocked. Getting blocked happens at times. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're unblocked, you can't know the wrong way. You
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  Speaker 1: can't chase ghosts. Well, that's if you look at it, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: They got the reverse action to Samuel, so its Jackie
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to go with the reverse action, and and
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  Speaker 1: Williams is supposed to pop into the middle first of all,
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  Speaker 1: back up, if you look at it, it's the worst
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  Speaker 1: fake of reverse ever. He literally he's literally jogging, so
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  Speaker 1: where are you going? That's like every lineman is going
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  Speaker 1: the other way. I mean, it's like it's ridiculous. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't that's gotta be on Miles jack. Yes, come on,
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  Speaker 1: it's terrible. It's not good defense. Terrible defense. And Derek
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  Speaker 1: Darius is getting washed down down the side too. He's
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  Speaker 1: not playing well either. Right, Um, I will say this,
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  Speaker 1: when you give up two yards in the ground, nobody
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  Speaker 1: is playing good run defense on the and seven do
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  Speaker 1: you have it? Not even nobody, nobody, You gotta own it.
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  Speaker 1: That's like saying, like an offensive line gives up ten cents.
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  Speaker 1: But oh hey, the left apple played well and Kingle
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  Speaker 1: on the one run was atrocious and then he's hurt.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. So suddenly the Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: Jaguard defense has morphed into a below average unit. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta win. We hatta win by point. I guess we
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  Speaker 1: have to win by out scoring people. That's one of
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  Speaker 1: the most amazing stories of the first five weeks right there.
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  Speaker 1: We just said that. And by the way Jalen was
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  Speaker 1: in the game, it wouldn't have mattered either. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean hern it played fine coverage. Oh they're running
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  Speaker 1: for two five, they don't have to throw as much.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. We can't get pressure with four.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I thought well, she's having to blitz
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  Speaker 1: a lot more. We blitz a lot now, more than
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  Speaker 1: we ever have because we can't not get home with four.
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  Speaker 1: And this is an offensive line. Guys that had two
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  Speaker 1: backup starting that they had the backup right. Two of
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  Speaker 1: their best linemen were out. Trey Turner, who's their best
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  Speaker 1: offensive line in the right guard out to play. Daryl Williams,
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  Speaker 1: who's a tackle usually Greg Little, the rookie who's playing
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  Speaker 1: left tackle, he's out. They started a sixth round pick
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  Speaker 1: this year, rookie who was a guard from South Carolina
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  Speaker 1: at left tackle. You see, that's where in dock Way
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  Speaker 1: and Gang has to have to win consistently. Did not happen.
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  Speaker 1: Is he hurt? He's not an injury report, That's all
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  Speaker 1: I do. Now. Remember earlier in the year he had
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  Speaker 1: the hamstring issue and missed his first game ever and
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  Speaker 1: it looked like remember the week after that, he was
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  Speaker 1: still a little slowed by that as of right now
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  Speaker 1: in playing himself into a big dollar deal. M let's
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  Speaker 1: come back. We'll get back on the offensive side. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the turnovers were bad, there was a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: on office, Yes, a lot of we're gonna make that
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  Speaker 1: coffee cup half full. Yeah, because it's a mean spirited
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  Speaker 1: mood today. I'm I'm just fighting for my the guys
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  Speaker 1: another touchdown on the on the one right there. Um
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  Speaker 1: playing with a lot of confidence, man, and I trust him.
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• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that's everything happens when you lose like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: You got you know last week I said, when you
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• 21:00
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  Speaker 1: Did you see the tweet that we got? J P says,
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  Speaker 1: Please tell Tony's not accurate. Pete has owned him in
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  Speaker 1: your mom? No, it's some Stephen Hopkins. He's a he's
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of mine. I guess it doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: The turnovers are not good and that costs the Jags
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  Speaker 1: a game. Part of the reason why the three fumbles
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  Speaker 1: by Gardner Minshew, But there were some positive things on offense.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing is Minshew's still playing pretty well other
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: than the turnovers, right, come on say that? Well, No,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I get to say that he threw for three seventy
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: four yesterday and was three times in the end zone
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to try to tie the game. I thought, minsh, you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: played um good. The numbers. I think he's played better.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. The numbers are big because he's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: playing from behind trying to come back. So that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: They'd rather not have to pass fifty one times. You know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: he had to run seven he threw. That's fifty one drops.
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  Speaker 1: That's too much exactly. Um, So what's encouraging is the
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  Speaker 1: throws that he makes. What's encouraging is the poise. What's
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  Speaker 1: encouraging this. He's a rookie, like you have a guy
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  Speaker 1: who can bring you back and you have a chance
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to win football games from the quarterback position. That's what's encouraging. Um,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta clean up things. Uh, you can't turn it over.
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  Speaker 1: Ball security is critical. The one side his fault, he's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: actually cocking back to throw it and he gets hitting
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  Speaker 1: his back by Noel, that is not on him. I
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  Speaker 1: argued with Jeff. Jeff's trying to say he's gotta, you know,
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  Speaker 1: do a better job and secureing the ball. Come on,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: how's he supposed to see the guy was the guy
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: who's throwing to open on the tape Tony, No, okay,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: but not his fault by. Maybe he's trying to throw
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  Speaker 1: it away. I don't know. Let's I mean the sound
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: we just heard from Minshew there he's discussing DJ Chark,
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  Speaker 1: who's looking like this. He could be a superstar this year.
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  Speaker 1: A superstar. Yes, that's like the greatest news. It's fantastic.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: We have not had a number one, true number one
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  Speaker 1: receiver in this place since Jimmy Smith and Keena Mark Cardell. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: when we had really to two guys you count on?
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  Speaker 1: Did you not count he? That's what I'm saying, So
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• 23:34
  Speaker 1: not like that, Not like this guy. This guy can run,
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  Speaker 1: really a touchdown if they had a view down the
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  Speaker 1: line to keep it in bounds and to reach out
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and to even think about I thought he got robbed
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: at that one. That didn't matter. Um, I'll say here's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: a bold overstatement, over reaction. Let me give you one
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  Speaker 1: right now. It's only five games in. He's the third
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  Speaker 1: best receiver in the history of this franchise, you might
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  Speaker 1: not be far off. Okay, give me, give me the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: give me who would be ahead of him? Robinsbinson still
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: ahead of him? Right? Huh? Isn't Allen Robinson still ahead
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  Speaker 1: of him? Third? I'm just telling you, well, what are
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the options? Jimmy and Keenan are one and too. Who
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: else would be back? That's why that's what I make R. J. Sourd,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Reggie Williams, Matt Jones. I mean, don't want to to go.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Let's say he's the fourth. I'll put Allen Robinsons the third.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: It's still it's five games. He's the fourth bench receiver
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  Speaker 1: in the history of a cecil. No. I mean, that's
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: how bad this position is, Ben Pete. They busted on
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  Speaker 1: them all Tony. You think about it. They busted on
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  Speaker 1: three first round picks and one was it. One was
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  Speaker 1: in the top ten. The kids are stun Now, it's early,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: it's overreaction. It's way to early to say what I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: just said. But I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with it
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: because I think he laid us out there. Now. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. Um, So on the other side
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  Speaker 1: of the thing. On offense here, I mean Leonard for
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that had a forty eight yard run in this game,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: finished with one h eight for twenty three carries. And
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: there were moments where he's still running the ball really hard, right,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: But there's other moments where it's going out wide and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: he can't find traction. I don't want to see this
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: wide run anymore. He's not a He's not a He
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is not good at going parallel line of scrimmage and
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  Speaker 1: then finding a hole and turning it up. His shoulders
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: need to be parallel, I mean, need to be parallel
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: line scrimmage the entire time when he when he's perpendicular,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: he's waste of time. And I think he misses holes.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah I do too. But when he's perfect, when he's
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: parallel to the line of scrimmage, his shoulders are square
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  Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. I mean, I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: he runs well, and he has some really good runs,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: like obviously they can work for McCaffrey. They did that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey can do anything you want. He's the best back,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not. He's not different different cats, totally different cats,
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  Speaker 1: completely different and run runs the one runs to contact.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, McCaffrey is the best offensive player in football. Well,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: who's not named the court? It was not a quarterback? Yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: non quarterback. He's the best player in football. Agreed, Absolutely agreed.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It's a fact. You want to put quarterbacks in there.
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  Speaker 1: There's only one to say. There's not many above him,
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  Speaker 1: only one or two ahead of him, maybe three mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: The only problem is he's a running back, so would
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: be used up in a couple of years. The way
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: he plays Pete, he can he can have a long
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  Speaker 1: career because he can go to the third down back.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when they thought he would be able
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  Speaker 1: to handle runs between the tackles. We make sure I
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  Speaker 1: never thought that. I didn't either people. People did the
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  Speaker 1: expert experts opinions or the expert said he was a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: third down in return guy. Well he could be. He
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: could run between the tackles for about twenty years, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: he can run between those. He's the best football player
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  Speaker 1: offensive football player in the world right now. He's in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the MVP conversation that the whole universe, there is not
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a better offensive football player than Christian McCaffrey said, except
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: for a couple of quarterbacks. It's a fact. No quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: aren't hold another category. No, Well, in the MVP race,
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  Speaker 1: it's the best. That's the most valuable player right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's my m VP of the NFL. Mine would probably
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: be Mahomes, Russell Wilson. That's you're wrong. He's the most
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  Speaker 1: got better records at the most valuable player who does
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  Speaker 1: the most for his team is Christian McCaffrey. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so okay, here you go. Buts Elly, you have a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: pick you can take, which every one you want to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: be your most valuable player. I'll take Mahomes. You would
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  Speaker 1: a player before, He's not more valuable than any quarterbacks,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so stop it. Really, he's not more valuable. No running
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: back in the history of the league is more valuable
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  Speaker 1: than a great quarterback. Not happening. Ever, Brown would disagree.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: All these players we just listed though this year that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Jacks could have drafted all of them. Remember that Russell Wilson.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Why are you going back? Why are you going backwards?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They drafted Brian Anger over over Russell Wilson. That was
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  Speaker 1: a good pick. It's a terrible pig. They drafted Leonard
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  Speaker 1: Fournette over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson and Kristin McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 1: And what was the other one they had? That's the Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the three of them. Well, I don't like to
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  Speaker 1: punter now and number two if they grow on trees punters.
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  Speaker 1: Number two, Leonard Fournett is having a good year. He's
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  Speaker 1: a third leading Russian NFL. Number three we have a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: It's Minshew. We don't need anyone else. So is he
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  Speaker 1: in now for good? I mean, has he secured the
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  Speaker 1: starting jobs? Not yet? Not yet? What if they win? See?
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  Speaker 1: I think Sunday's game will decide that because think about it.
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  Speaker 1: What does the schedule after that? Isn't it the Jets
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and Bengals? Yes? Direct, So Sunday's game decides whether Minshi
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  Speaker 1: was the starting quarterback in my mind should be it's Saints, Bengal's, Jets,
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  Speaker 1: Texans in that order. They're winning the next three, lock
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  Speaker 1: it another lock alright, So if he wins the next three,
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  Speaker 1: I think he has to win the next four to
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  Speaker 1: guarantee startership. And the Texas is in London. Ship, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, So Tony, the Texans are in London, right,
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  Speaker 1: so he's gotta win three games. This is the week though,
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  Speaker 1: because did you look at it? If he wins this week,
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  Speaker 1: he should beat the Bengals and the Jets are both
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  Speaker 1: those games at home? No, no Bengals in Cincinnati, terrible place.
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  Speaker 1: But think about it, Tony, right, so you should win
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back people the question. So, if he wins
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• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I said, he guarantee. He's a guarantee starter. If he
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  Speaker 1: so you get what you get? Yeah, like that I said,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: when you lose, everything stinks. I mean you got you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: just food taste crappy. That's got. It's raining out. You know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: it's just a bad day now, nothing tastes good. You
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: know what happens sometimes after a bad day, a good
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: day happens. You know the sun always rises in the east. Well, thanks, wow, yeah, JP, Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Well I got to this guys off the Rockett you
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: give you some good news, something I love, something I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: love about this team. What's that? I love this team,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: every one of them. And I was reminded by watching
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the video in gock Way coming back. This is a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: tough group who plays hard and no give up. I mean,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: like as negative as like they were bad on defense
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and their run fits were atrocious, and guys gotta play better,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: especially the linebackers. But it's not like they're laying down,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like they fight laid down and they did that. That's
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: why I actually, I'm really I have a lot of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: respect for these guys in this team because this team
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: would not have done this last year. This was a
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: team that quit last year at time like was just
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: had enough, like we're not and this year, this year,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: all year, all the distractions of twenty and all the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: stuff going on. This is a tough minded group who
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: person of years, who plays hard, fights to the end,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and I give them credit. Like they were bad on defense,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: they were bad. Like I've been there before. I've been
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a part of seven eights offensive lines. When you don't
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: want to look at anybody and talk to anybody and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you're embarrassed because it's like bad and there's like you
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: have nothing to say because it's just bad, and that
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: those are the times in the locker room when you
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: walk in and said Marco was responsible for four of
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: them for holding the football, Well he was, he was.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Let's not let's not kid each other. I mean everyone
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: knows it was not the guys up front, but what
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: they met. But they what they do, and they remind
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, they remind me of some of the early
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Jag teams. They play hard man, they they're they're a
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: gritty group. Injuries, guys come in, I mean, just keep
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: it going. And I give him credit. I give him
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of credit. And I think and because of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that attitude, the toughness, the mental toughness of this team
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: has I'm confident that come December, they're gonna be fighting
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: for the division entitled bess as disappointing that loss was yesterday,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: because every lost thinks, I mean three or two would
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: be great. He's gotta touch Saints game cone up, um.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: But they're gonna be there. I have a good week.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I think they'll come out physical. I think they're gonna
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: play tough against the Saints. I think they'll be I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: mean it won't because of lack of effort or grit
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna, if you know, win or lose this game. Uh.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And because of it, I think come December they're gonna
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: have a real chance to win. I agree with you.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think they've they're feisty. They
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: just gotta clean up a lot of crap. I mean
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad stuff going on. Yeah, there
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: was a By the way, we haven't talked about the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: elephant in the room. What's that, Jaylen twenty? What's the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: talk about? Well, I mean he a is he hurt?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: They sent him to a specialist to find out if
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: he is indeed hurt, and then he's in Houston taking
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: pictures with the quarterback in the US in Texans on
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the day of a game. That a deal. I don't
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: big deal. Last night after the game, apparently did they
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: send him to Houston or did he go? Uh. The
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: word we've gotten is the specialist is in Houston. He's
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: going to see today, correct, and they send them there.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: They're going to get the review. I guess today or
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: tonight is what Doug morons. Okay, So if he went
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: there at the request of the team and he so
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: happens to be in Uston, his agent is there with
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and they're friendly, is that a bad look?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So it's a bad look. It's not wrong. Does that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: make sense? So here's the thing. If it wasn't Jalen,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it was any other player would be a bad look.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: It's still a division rival quarterback. Here's I guess my problem.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And I tried to explain this this morning. It's a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: bad look because of everything else that's been going on
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and how it's been handled. It's a bad look. Um,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: But today's NFL is different, and you might as well
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: just come to understand that guys are friends. Social media
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: is big, and this is how people operate and they
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: live their lives. Now, if it was me and the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: prudent thing to do, and if you have self awareness,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with jail and going to Houston because that's where, uh,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: his specialist is. I mean, I think the right thing
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: is if you're really because he came out and told
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: everybody cares about his team and his teammates, who wants
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to support them, why not go to the game? In Carolina,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: watched the team play. Supports your teammates and get on
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: a flight and fly to Houston last night, or if
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that doesn't work, and then maybe the team didn't want
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: him there. That's a possibility. Sometimes injured guys don't travel,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: which is fine too. And you want to go to
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Houston early, and you want to go meet up with
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: your friend Deshaun Watson, you have the same agent. I'm
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: fine with that, but have enough prudence and self awareness
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to say, hey, de Sean, don't put that on social
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: media for me. Because be clear, Jalen did not put
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: that on social media. The starry Watson put that on
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: social media. And I think the prudent thing would have
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: been for Jailer to say, I'll hang we're boys, but
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: do me a favor. It's a bad look for this
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: to be on on social media, the bad look for me.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want my team. I don't want to send
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the wrong message to my teammates, and I don't want
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to send the wrong message to the fans because according
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to jail And, he cares about his teammates and the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: fans of Jacksonville because that's what he told us. Is
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: that not what he told us in the press company.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: That's what he said. That's what he said. So if
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: that's the case, then that's a bad look. It's a
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: bad look for those reasons him being there. I don't
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: care if he has a doctor's appointment there, go hang
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: out with your buddy whatever. Right, But but it's a
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: bad look Pece. But I mean, if all the things
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: that has happened, it's the least of the bad looks.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It all adds up. It's the wrong message. You know,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: he's not getting traded, so that lets me know. But
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, and today social
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: media and the way we interact, you have to have
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: self awareness of the message. Let me tell you this.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: You think that's another shot at the organization. Look, guys,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I'm brazen. I don't care. Do what you want? I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: want out. I haven't thought about it enough. But it
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: might be I actually don't care anymore. You don't care
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: what that If he plays or not, would you trade him?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I would trade him. I would trade him. And you
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: know what who's that on? If he doesn't play? Yeah,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I would. Now I would be doing it. I'd be
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: very strict about what my expectations were like if you're hurt,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna be a treatment. You're gonna be here,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, You're gonna do this, you're gonna
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: go through the protocols. You're not getting paid or you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: gonna get fine contact the detrimental the team or whatever.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: So I just make I'd be very strict on the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: rules like anyone else, expectation wise. I love the fact
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that they're not trading him though, because look, you can't
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: allow that to happen. It changes the entire dynamic of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: your organization. Everybody who goes there's gonna have one or
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: two good years. They're gonna want to get out. You
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: can't do that. I can't let NFL players dictate where
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: they can can't play, not gonna. It doesn't work that way.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: So I got Stefan Digs doing it. This guy, no,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you play for me, and that's it. Well, things got fine.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Vikings are going right after that. He didn't show up,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: didn't show up for practice and all they're so so
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? So the results will come back whatever
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: they are, and either he'll be right, get right and play,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: or he's hurt and won't. Well, if the specialist says
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong, then you gotta play. If the specialist
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: comes back and says he has back issues, then you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: gotta fix it, whether it's rehab or surgery. And basically
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: specialist comes back and he has back issues, which it
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: could be the case, then all the stuff that everybody's
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: banging them on they're wrong. Right. And by the way,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: his value, his long term value depending on what the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: back issue is, because having a back as an athlete
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: as a young man is not good. If you're gonna
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: miss time in your third what is this third year,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: fourth year, fourth year? Because the back issues, right, I mean,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you gotta make sure now that's not one. That's not
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: one that's not to get out there, to get out
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: of something because you don't want anybody to know you
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: have backage. No play with like yeah, so we'll wait
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and see. I always try to give the players to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: benefit of doubt. The guy says he's hurt, he's hurt.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: So if Jalen's tell him he's hurt, he's hurt, I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: agree that. Look, everything he was sick, his wife had
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a baby, Everything he said was accurate and true. You
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: gotta believe that he's hurt. I don't know anything else.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: If I come to find another information that he's jaking it,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: baking it. Ja. I know I said jaking it, but
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I figure some people might not know what that means.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So that means faking it. Um, have you never heard
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: that before? You for jaking it before I jacing it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But you gotta be in a locker room to hear that.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Tony JP has never been in one. Oh my gosh.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So if he's faking it, which at this time I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: have no reason to believe based on information, but if
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I find out he is, then then what Yeah, No,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I'll call him out on that. Oh he's faking if
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: if it's a bad look, and I would lose respect
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: because and you know what, I wouldn't want him on
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: my team, but I still wouldn't trade him. All right,
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  Speaker 1: And there's some doozies again tonight. I'll warn you. I
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  Speaker 1: and that's about what I said. That's he's responsible for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you did on this show. That's right. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: At least Rock can see it. I mean, there were
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  Speaker 1: a few others, like, you know, there's some positives, but
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  Speaker 1: some people were like, there was an exciting game the
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  Speaker 1: Jags right at the end, which was cool. So there's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: it was a mixed last night. So can I see
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: one thing about the end of the game. Real quick,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you don't have to throw a hail Mary in that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: spot you're on the yard line to run a real play. Uh.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I watched the replay. I would have done I would
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: have thrown their nineteen seconds left and you see it
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: all the time. I would have run two quick outs,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: like seven yard outs because they were giving that up.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: But after the off sides, weren't yeah, real play, you
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: don't need to run a hail marriage. Weren't they all
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: back in the end zone. They were literally all staying
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: on the end zone. There was no real play to run.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Then then run you know what you can do. Remember
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: that play where teams ran where they dump it down
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and the guys block those guys. I agree with that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: they could have done that. That would have been interesting
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: now had of giving you a better chance. I mean,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I just hell, Mary's such a it didn't even reach
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: well because the pressure we had pressure from camp yeah
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: yard line in the last play. Yeah yeah, I say,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I think, And that's a situation. You either run a
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: real play or you run that play that me and
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Tony were just talking about where you they're all back there,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: you just dump it down and go block. Yeah, nineteen
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: seconds left there at the thirty four yard line and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: then they try to help marry from there. From there,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: that's where I think you could have done, like to
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: seven yard outs, just get down to like the eighteen
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: seventeen yard line. How much time was left when they
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: used the time out. That was a bad use of
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: the time. I thought it was too early, But I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: think part of the problem was I didn't want and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I said on the radio I wouldn't use it there
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  Speaker 1: because the defense was tired. You got him on the ropes,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: keep it going right. But it looked like the receivers
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: we're a little bit asked, but that's you gotta go.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And the offensive line cam was a little slow getting
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the line of screaming you gotta go, big man, come on,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: get that, get on your horse, get back to the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And that was That was not a
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: good last minute and twenty of the clock management at all.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have called the time with their but they did.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: They had a chance to win it. So let's do this.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: How much time do we have? Okay, come two minutes.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have two columns. Speed from the game yesterday. Positive, good,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you liked, we learned, good for the future, Negative, worrisome, problematic,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: really bad because everyone calls in about the negative. So
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: we can do that, so the A'll buzz off the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: negatives real quick run fits, linebacker play um, turnovers by
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Um, yeah, you blocked in the run game,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and I can't get pressure with four guys. Those will
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: be the negatives any anything else. Those are the main ones. Yeah,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: those are the negatives. I mean, and everyone because of
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that says, you know, cutt Norwell, you're not gonna do
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that to dumb if you're if that's your take, don't
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: call it's dumb, fire Todd wash another bad take, don't break,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: don't call it it's dumb. Uh. But those need to
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: be fixed. Like if you have a take about one
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: of those four things, like that's good, that's positive, like
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: good fandom, like that's negative. You should those need to
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: be fixed. If they're not fixed' not gonna win football games.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about positives. Last ninety seconds, you go first
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Pete quarterback with no doubt. I don't care if he
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: turned the ball over on those fumbles. He's still positive
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the adamant position to maybe win the game. So I
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: agree with that because again I said it last week,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. Now we're down seven, we're
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: down late, Like you feel like you got a chance
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: to win a football game because you have a quarterback
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that can operate. Else what number one receiver agreed? You
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: have a stud, You have a stud in the development
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver that you can build a round that
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: it can take the top off, that can change a game.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: It will dictate coverage if he continues to play it
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: this way? What else? Uh for net, I'll give him
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: a positive. I mean it wasn't great, but he was.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: To give him positive for that, I'm gonna sit change
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say, run game. Second week in a row,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: they had a productive run game, run game, anything else
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: in twenty seconds? Nothing on defense? Right, Josh Allen continues
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: to be positive. I think, oh, don't I love the game?
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I think the offensive line back back weeks when I
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: think they I think not bad. Negative? Ohaughnessy gone for
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the Yeah that hurts. That's a negative second hour coming
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  Speaker 1: Andrew is that you know when when a guy has
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: a bad play, it's gonna it's gonna be a really
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: bad play, you know, saying people are gonna notice it
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and go, um, they don't notice all the good that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: happens during the game. A lot of times I've always
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: said that before. I know that. Um, you know, when
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I was the line coach, I say all the time,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: you can you can dominate someone for seventy plays, but
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: give up three sacks and it's the worst game you've
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: ever played. But in saying that, I think I think
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: that's a good illustration of what happened. I think that, uh,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you know, when you have a bad play, it was.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: It was a really bad play, and I'm sure Andrew
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: would want it back like we all would. That coach
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Duck Maron this afternoon discussing Andrew Norwell and the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line means where you have it especially Welcome back second
• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:05
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  Speaker 1: get your social media questions. Yes, Tony basically was saying
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: exactly what I said, correct, So you must have listened
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: to the coach early. He listened to me because I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: said it before him. I said this morning. Dogs are
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: smart man, obviously, because what he said is dead on.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: It's one play. It's terrible play. That's all anyone wants
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about. Because they don't watch the game. They
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: watched highlights, they watch the skill guys. They don't know
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: what the offensive line does, and so they see the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: one bad play, the flash play. It's bad and they
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: want to kill the guy. They don't know what they're
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: talking about. It was a bad play, and I know
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that he did probably thought about it a lot yesterday.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: And you never want to give give up a sack.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: You never want to give a sack fumble, especially I've
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: done both. Never want to give a sack fumble touchdown.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I've never had the opportunity of doing that one um,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: And uh, it's a weird thing about that. Tony Easy
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: getting bull rushed by a defensive end because he's worried
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: about the speed it can happen. So he's high as
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: hands are outside because he's worried about the elusiveness of
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: of Addison. So you play high and you set high,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: and you have bad hands because you're just trying to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: grab him because you know if you get your hands
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: on him, it's over. And Addison does a good job.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: He gets his hands right in between the shoulder on
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: both numbers, has better leverage, and he pushes him back
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: because Norwell's off balance. If he doesn't get him, does
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the ball get out because it looks like Burns is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: getting It looks like tried to chop Burns and he
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: didn't chop them. The ball gets out, The ball is out.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: No one else is close. Oh yeah, yeah, Burns is cut.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: He tried to cut him and he didn't cut him,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't gonna get there. So it's a bad play.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: But I mean, watch the game. That's certainly not on
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the quarter. By the way, it looked like Keikley might
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: intercepted that anyway. Maybe yeah, you see him jump in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: it speaking interceptions, it wouldn't have been there have been
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: no end the game clock management issue. If Bradberry just
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: caught a ball at him right between the two and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: the four, that's right, that's one that d d ran
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: into him, right, But you know, we were just talking
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: about how you were just saying how smart Doug is everything.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Their clock management the end of the games isn't in
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: their situational management isn't very good at the end of game.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: You you talk about this all the time around the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: league too, not just it's bad across the board. Well,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: at the end of the example terrible clock manage. Give
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: me an example, should use the time out with a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: minute nine left? Well, you because it was a minute
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: too you were there. If everyone's exhausted, can't breathe, you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: call time out? Okay, Well then you don't have any well, okay,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: they were. They felt like their guys were what was it?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: What down was that JP? When he called down out?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: First they just got a first down? Spike it? Then
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: timeout is more valuable than the down? Yeah, they had
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: just gotten up to the thirty one yard line. Yes,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: and then at the end of the game in the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Texans I I followed him for that they should have
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: gone for two. Okay, but that's like, that's part of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: that's game management. We got to take into account how
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the game is flowing. The game was flowing defensively. It
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't an offensive game. You just scored you had, I'm
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: not gonna argue. I agree with you. I wouldn't have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: gone for two either. There they had just gotten to
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the forty two yard line. Attention, that's right. There was
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: eleven yard game. Then they called time out. I mean
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: that's fair. I would I mean clock there would have
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: been fine. And he's like, I wouldn't call timeout. I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: give an example. There was a score late. I can't
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: remember where this game it was, and then they went
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: up seven. They went up seven. You don't kick an
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: extra point, you go for two to make it not
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: We talked about this, you and I all the time. Pete,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: when this happens, go for nine, they're not gonna go
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: for two to beat you at and if you get
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: the nine? In general, when did the Jags do that?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: So they did, But there was a tea I can't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: remember his team did it. But all these coaches botched
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: the end of For everybody who has analytics, guys all
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: over the universe, now they still can't handle the end
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: of games. It's fair. And by the way, the analytics
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: crowd out there. And I know the Jaguars are big
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: and analytics and Tony Khan is I love Tony to death.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Like I told Tony though, when you guys could tell
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: me that a fourth and an inch is the same
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: as a fourth and forty inches, didn't come talk to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: me because they're not the same play. But on the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: stat sheet, how do they look on the statue fourth
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and one? Yeah, it's true. M there you go. That's right,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: it's the tray, that's listen. I think there's a combination.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: There's a place for analytics. It's a combination of analytics
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: and flow of game. And just had it. You just
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: hit a spot on Tony bing. Flow of game matters.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: You can't just look at the numbers. You need it all.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: You need the numbers. The numbers are critical and help you.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I'm a big numbers guy, big big numbers guy. Believe
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: in the numbers. I like numbers too. I'm a big
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: numbers guy. I like data. I want I want all data.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I want as much information as I possibly can to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: help me make a decision based on the flow of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the game. But if I hand you data, just raw data,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: it doesn't take into account flow of the game. That's right.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Numbers are numbers. Are we disagreeing on something? We agree?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Most numbers guys won't agree with us on that that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: they're hard fast and steadfast on the numbers say to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: go for it, and that's not necessarily true. Like at
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the two point play in Houston, it seems like a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: flow of the game decision. No, that's a decision. If
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: you look at the analytics, it's actually fifty fifty because
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: it's actually you know, if you took all if you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: if you have for two every time or went from
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: uh an extra point every time, and you look at
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the conversions of h two point conversions and the conversion
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: of kicking the field goal or the extra point, it's
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: literally about the same exact statistical you know, uh percentage
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: of points you're gonna score. But in this situation, it
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't at two games, so it was a game, so
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: so so you look at that, so okay, it's a
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: coin flip. At that point you now go into situation
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and flow of the game. A lot of people say,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: on the road, you go and try to win it
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: because you're on the road. I don't buy that as
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: much because what does it matter when you're on the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: road or at home, or if you're the underdog, try
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: to go win it, because if you play over time,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: the better team is typically gonna go win. Well, here's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: one to Tony. Okay, hold on, but before before I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: go to this, pet's what I would look at is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: the flow that individual you game and you had a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: game where they couldn't move the ball, they had one
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: touchdown off a turnover. You have a better kicking game
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: because of Lambo and in your offense, just put together
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: a nice drive. She get some momentum. So it's a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: coin flip when you get the ball first or not.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: But let's say you lose the coin flip and they
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: get the ball first. I'm putting a lot of money
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: at they're not getting more than three points out of
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: a drive, meaning you have another shot and you might
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: have a shot them getting nothing and all you need
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: is three. It's just like a fourth and seven play
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: from the three yard line is not the same or
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: third and seven play from the three yard lines not
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the same as a third and seven play I'm talking
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: about from your own three yard line, not the same
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: as a third and seven play from the forty three.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Right that you all you gotta do is look at
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: the way teams play it that it's not the same thing.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: But on the statue it says third and seven, correct,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: not the same. You know you've been back up on
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: your own end zone. You know what that's like back
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: there when you're backed up on third and long. Situational
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: football matters, but numbers and what you do with the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: numbers matter too. So I think there's a place for both. Well,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: here's here's a number. I don't care what the data says.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Don't call your last time out with a minute nine
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: left in the game. There's a minute whatever it is.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Don't call the last time out. How did let's go
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: back to offensive line? That was the topic at the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: top of the show here today. Um, outside of Norwell,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: that's we've debated that old day. Here, there's no debate.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I knew that was what it is. It is what
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: it is. I knew that was coming. I walked into
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: that one. How did the tackles play? How did Cam
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Robinson play? For you? Tony Well, I can't was physical? Um,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: he he got soft a little bit on his set,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: meaning he's a vertical setter, which I'm fine with. I'd
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: like a little bit more wid than his set than
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: just straight vertical. But that's a that's a nuance but
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: he he's gotta stay He's gonna say square a little
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: bit longer. He's dropping in the bucket with that back
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: foot and creating a short corner. Now he's strong enough
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and physical enough and big enough to get away with
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  Speaker 1: that just him? That's it's bad. It's bad. It's a habit.
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  Speaker 1: means like, for example, when he's when he if he's
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  Speaker 1: getting deaf. And he has a very good offensive line coach,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not like George's I mean, George is teaching
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  Speaker 1: him the right stuff. Right, you just get it just reps.
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  Speaker 1: It's reps. He had that issue last year. It's getting
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  Speaker 1: better better than last year. That's good. Um. I really
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  Speaker 1: like the right tackle. I think Jowan Taylor is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a stud in this league. Physical, good technique, good feet,
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  Speaker 1: good hand. I mean, he played well and he's a
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  Speaker 1: right tackle, right He's never going to be the guy
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  Speaker 1: that goes to the left side. Right now. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: he has some feet now like he's he's athletic. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he couldn't do it. He's a good
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  Speaker 1: right tackle though I liked him a lot. Uh Can
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  Speaker 1: Richardson both played good, I mean they played solid and
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  Speaker 1: Norwell played well. I'm gonna go back to the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just talk numbers because I don't want to bore
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  Speaker 1: everyone with you know, you know, technique and nuances and
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  Speaker 1: they get to the next level. And how are the
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  Speaker 1: double teams because it's all good at times, really good.
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  Speaker 1: And the way you know that is if you block
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  Speaker 1: the best pass rush and give up two sacks and
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  Speaker 1: one hit on fifty one dropbacks. Actually, I'm sorry, fifty
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  Speaker 1: three dropbacks, that's pretty dang good unit that came in
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  Speaker 1: Really good. If you rush for one forty on a team,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty dangn good. If you have over five o
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  Speaker 1: yards of total offense on the fourth rated defense in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, that's pretty good. If you score twenty seven, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty dangn good. So my point is the offensive
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  Speaker 1: that he's gonna lose sleep over. It's part of football,
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  Speaker 1: It's time now, gentlemen, for social media questions your favorite Pete.
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  Speaker 1: You love it too, I know, right, Oh yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: it gets him so fired up. He's already fired up today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much more fired up he can be. Ye,
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  Speaker 1: ask a Norwell question, you'll get him fired It's coming.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Stand by number one though from Riley Underscore. Kendrick. I'm
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: sure you touch on this earlier in the show, but
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: what is with the run defense, whether it's McCaffrey or
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: his back up. We couldn't stop anything. The question though,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: where do we go from here? Now? One for this
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: defense guys, I mean, you gotta just clean up the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: run fits, but you gotta be better. Um, there's no
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: one coming in to fix it, meaning like there's no
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: like miraculous Superman. You're gonna go sign off, you know
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: the waiver wire. I think it starts at linebackers like
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Quincy Williams have to be better. Quincy
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Williams got benched. Miles Jack, in my opinion, was wildly
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: at a position at times and was not at his best.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: And I think he's played great football lest uh oh
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: year to start the season. Um, he can be better,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I think, And I you know, look, I thought Myles
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: was going to be a star this year. I thought
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: he would break out last year. It didn't happen. Um,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: he's got to play better. And I love the kid,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: but he's got to be better. And Quincy Williams his
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: head spinning tone? Is that what that is? I think
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: I think he saw I think he saw things for
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: the first time in his life Sunday with Christian McCaffrey,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: and he got a little overwhelmed and he explained it
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: to be in the locker room this week because I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: had the question, you know, how different is this challenge
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: than opposed to a Derrick Henry, who's a downhill freight
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: train type of guy. All he said, well, Henry's between
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: the tackles. He likes to get outside. But you know
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go hit the guy. He's not gonna shake
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: you really too much. This guy can shake you. You
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: gotta kind of go up careful and have a lot
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: of guys around. If you go too careful that he's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: you gotta go take a shot at him. He used
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: to be with Barry Sanders. Go take your shot because
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: if you come up and try to break down, he's
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  Speaker 1: quicker than you and more elusive. You're not tackling him.
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  Speaker 1: Is will always take your shot with guys like that,
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  Speaker 1: And and Quincy Williams didn't do it. Yeah, so there
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: you have a question Number two, Samuel of duvall, can
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: we start talking about the draft? Nor question is happen
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: they'll be drafting thirty second even when they when they're
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: playing poorly at certain times a year. But Sell he
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: still won't talk about the draft. Remember right when they
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: were oh and whatever, oh and nine, I don't remember that.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Let's go on a while ago. Move on social question
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  Speaker 1: number three, Luker underscore. Can you see the coaches moving
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack outside when Jake Ryan comes back. Well, it's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: interesting because Doug Maron was asked about Jake Ryan today,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: where's Jake Ryan? And he was the off season acquisition
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: from the Packers coming off an a c L injury,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: and he had a setback in the off season and
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: he's on the non football injury life. I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: Jake Ryan in my life here. If he walked in here,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I could point him out. I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what he looks like unless I went
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: and looked on the Packers media guide. Well, Doug Moron
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: was asked about him today and said, I don't know.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't asked. I have no idea. So it doesn't
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: seem like jacobolo the money to be a middle linebacker.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. No, No, He's gotta play better.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: So Jake Ryan's not walking through that door. Jake Ryan. Now,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: where is Jack Ryan? Jake or Jack or his brother Jack?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Does he have one? I don't know. You're not getting
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: the Jack Ryan movie. Star Jack Ryan, the CI agent
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: that like saves the world. What what are you talking about? Joe?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Help me out here? Am I right? Joe? I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you an idiot? I mean, Pete? You
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: know what I meant? There? Right? Thank you? Doesn't Matt
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Damon play him? No? Uh no, the guy from the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: office plays him? Steve Carrell. No, I know you're talking
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: about Steve Correll. You know what I'm talking about. I
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  Speaker 1: know exactly. I know exactly what you're talking I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the actor's name is, but he's good. It's
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: it's Pam's boyfriend. Yes, what movie is this? Jack? You've
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: never seen Jack Ryan. You've never seen the You never
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: read the books? No? Are you kidding me? What's the author? Joe?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: The Jack Ryan author? I've read his books, Tom Clancy,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: him Clancy. You've never read in Tom Tom Clancy is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: he's the He's like the character like Red Hunt for
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Red October. I've seen that movie. Okay, Jack Ryan is
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: in Hunt for Red October that I didn't realize this.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: And now on Amazon Prime, which is a I can
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: say that because they're a sponsor of the NFL. Has
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: they already have one season of Jack Ryan. Now the
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: second season is coming out, but he's like a c
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I get saves the world. So when I said Jack
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Ryan's not walking through the door, I mean there's no
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: one coming to save the day. Well that makes more
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: sense now, thank you. It's not as good if I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: have to explain it to you. Are you sure that
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: the guy from the office plays him? I don't think
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: he does. What's his name, Joe John Frazinski? I thought
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: it was No, it is Pete. I've watched it fifty times.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: You might be right. I pay him. Chris Who, Chris Pine? No,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: you're ready to thinking the movies. There's movies about you. No,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about this show on Amazon Prime that plays
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Jack Ryan. Oh I haven't seen that one. I'm sorry.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Let's move along, please. Social question number four from Chris Pine,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Doogie do What should the main concern for next week's
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: game against New Orleans be Camara in the running game
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: or Thomas in the passing game? Oh? Dear, the defense.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: I'd worry about that. First of all, it's the defense.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: That Saints defense is really good. Obviously, Camara is good.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: They have a good offensive line. This is a good
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: team and Teddy Bridgewater is getting better. It was good
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: yesterday through four touchdown passes. He looked good yesterday. So
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: it starts. Sean Payton's, by the way right now, would
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: be the coach of the year of my mind. Fair enough,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: So I think it's all the above. How about that.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: You remember that the s A T test like you
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: have a is it? This? Is it? Be this? See
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: this and then like d all the above. But if
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you had to stop one, you stop Camara, Camara on
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: offense and then take care of the front and seven
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: on defense the front seven. Next question from that guy Tyler,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: is it time to bench Norwell? He's our weakest link
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: in the old line. Also, what happened on the first bubble?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Was it intended for the tight end fullback or was
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: it meant for for net? Which one? First it was
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: meant for four net that's on Minshew number one. And no,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: you're not benching. Uh, that's all a couple of people today,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: guys that have asked, you know, obviously it's not gonna happen.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: You've explained why. But why not move richardson the left guard,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: you know, and leave Cannon right guard and getting Norwell
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: out of there? That's crazy right, Yeah, no, no he did.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: He had a bad play. I saw another one where
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I had somebody asked, move can the center play Richardson
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: and move Linder the left guard. No, you're not doing
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: that this year. Now. Maybe now I'll say this after
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the season, like, based on how the season goes, maybe
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: you go to restructure. Well, it's contract, he doesn't want
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: to Okay, then move on. Now you have Cannon Richardson,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: but not right now, No, nor Wells. You're starting left guard.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: As long as he's healthy, he's playing. I mean, he
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: had a terrible play. I get it, but you have
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: to go look at the entire to get fans look
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: at it. They think they overpaid for him. They're not
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: getting banged for the book. That's what they're looking at.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: But that's not how you have to if you're a coach,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: that's not what you're doing. Pete. You put your best
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: five out there. You're trying to win football games. You're
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: not talking to the fans. Well, I'm trying to tell
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: them it's dumb. If he plays poorly, which I don't
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: think he's played poorly, he had a poor play, then yes,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: the opportunity is to move Will Richardson over there. Sure,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: that's an opportunity, but he hasn't played poorly. He's just
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: starting to remind me of Luke Joco again. M hmm,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: different situation, Pete. Different. I'm go off the board here,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: um and get another So just came in. Actually, who
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: is in the tight end room now? Depth chart with
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: the A C L injury for O'shanna. Well, here's an
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: interesting thing. Just an hour ago, the Patriots cut Ben Watson.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Do you do you pick him up? Yes? I go
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: get him. Yes, old, he can still move, he can
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: still run. I didn't ask you that. How old is yeah? Yeah?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I go get him. I go get him
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: right away. Just got released. He's gonna have the clear waivers.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you're sitting in that process. Probably
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: middle of the pack right now. He's thirty eight years
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: get him. You need help right now. Who's in the rooms?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Wayne Swayne Oliver might be coming back, you don't know,
• 1:26:48
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  Speaker 1: ever triple lock in the history of the show. I
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  Speaker 1: they probably in first place. Frankly, I'm shocked. I've never
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  Speaker 1: given the triple lock before. But it's a powerful Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you give out the triple lock that gets him
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  Speaker 1: triple you've already locked the second Titans game that gives
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  Speaker 1: him the six, so they only probably only need to
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  Speaker 1: win three more games and have them in the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: for your your locked luckways, Tony, think about it. We're
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  Speaker 1: never been put out before. I double locked the Titans game.
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  Speaker 1: So that's done. Um, and locked this one too this week.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Well that's that's we forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: We move on, Pete. Oh, so that luck was broken?
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  Speaker 1: It was the key was found. He locked, Yeah, he did.
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  Speaker 1: He locked it if he commediately forgot to say that.
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  Speaker 1: They sniffed it off like a storage locker. They found
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  Speaker 1: the keys. Unfair. Um, the triple lock, that's focused on
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  Speaker 1: After they beat the Saints be aired for the second
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  Speaker 1: triple lock in the history. By the way, the schedule
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: looks funky now at Raiders looks like it might be
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: a tougher game you thought out at Falcons might not
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  Speaker 1: be a tough game at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Lad Raiders is the last game ever in the Colosseum. Anyway,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: you're looking way too far ahead. I mean I can't
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: go to look ahead you. I'm going by your triple locks,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: and I just Pete, I mean, you're going to the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year. I just do a triple lock.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you should nobody if I'm saying, if you
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  Speaker 1: four wins. That gives them, That gives them the six
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  Speaker 1: you need to start looking at the schedule. You get
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  Speaker 1: You got a chance, you got that's nine. Maybe you're
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• 1:38:50
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• 1:39:58
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• 1:40:03
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  Speaker 1: We're on the home stretch of Jaguars Happy Hour. JP
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  Speaker 1: shattered Tony was Sally, Pete Prisco, Well, you just touched
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  Speaker 1: on the a f C. South. We took your social
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  Speaker 1: media questions. Earlier in the program, we dissected the Jaguars
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: offensive line and Tony's support of Andrew Norwell left guard.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars run defense. We've found fixes for that and
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  Speaker 1: figured out that you can't turn the ball over three
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  Speaker 1: times and win. We've done all that in this program.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: It's been a full show, but it's not over until
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  Speaker 1: we go around the National Football League and recap all
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: the games from Week five. Before we get to the
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  Speaker 1: games the first coaching casualty Pete Jake Gruden's out in Washington. Yeah,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: and this was one of those situations j P when
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: you're talking about the owner and the coach weren't on
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: the same page. Remember he was forced to draft Wayne Haskins.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: The staff and the football personnel people didn't want them.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Allen Dan Snyder did. Now they're itching to play
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: them their own five. It was an easy way to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of them. I think it's and Bill Callahan
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  Speaker 1: takes over and he said he's not going to play
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: him this week, but it's only a matter of time
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  Speaker 1: before you who who did Gruden want? Supposedly Daniel Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Well they weren't picking high enough. They could have made
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  Speaker 1: a move to go again him if they really one
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  Speaker 1: of him that much, you know, So my favorite And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see if I read it on Twitter, So
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  Speaker 1: I hope I'm not getting it wrong. So it on
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: the internet, it must be true because Twitter sometimes can
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: mislead you. But basically that Bruce Allen, the what is
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  Speaker 1: the vice president president of the team, whatever his time is,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: said they did not have a cultural problem in Washington. Well,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, then why you're firing the coach if there's
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: not a gold ural problem and not on the coach, Well,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: how about the whole how about the how about the
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: recent history of this franchise? And he said he's the
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  Speaker 1: one who's been responsible for it, right, I mean, I
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: think they do have an issue. Let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: games now, Cardinals over the Bengals, Cardinals, the battle of
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: winless team. What about Byron Leftwich for that job? It's
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: too early, Pete, Like I saw you say that, I'm
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: not saying it's not the right one. But let the
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  Speaker 1: team play out right. I don't know if that'll be
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: his job anyways, because you just can he go in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean he's gonna work for Dan Slider. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. And right now, let's not kid ourselves. The
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  Speaker 1: Buccaneers are two and three. It's not like they're lighting
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: up the but the offense is playing good. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: think Buying will be a head coach. I'm with you there,
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  Speaker 1: but it might just be a little Cardinals gotta win
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: in the battle of winless teams. Cardinals over the Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: Uh there, who cares? I mean that bad football. Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray was better yesterday. Okay'll give me his numbers. Kyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray ran for a touchdown, he being three yards. He
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: was twenty of thirty two passing to fifty two and
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: ran for ninety three yards. I mean he had a
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  Speaker 1: good games, good game. What do you want? That's what
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  Speaker 1: they do. That's how he designed the thing. Little man,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: he looks so little when he's out there. Yeah, he's
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: small on the Bengal stink. Yeah, Jacks at the Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks, h Saints over the Buccaneers thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater went wild in that game. Yeah, that one.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the Bucks would win. Um the way they've
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: been playing, but Pete said it. Sean Payton coach of
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: the Year so far earlier in this year. What they're doing,
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  Speaker 1: he's been phenomenal. Think about they look at the run
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: day little bit they Seattle, right, I want a Seattle
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: with Teddy Bridgewater, beat the Cowboys with Teddy Bridgewater, and
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: then and now just beat the books. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: coaching the year right now. So it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: tough matchup. They're coming to town, but I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to it. They have really good players, by the way,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Michael Thomas Chimera. That offensive line is, the defensive is
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: a bunch of studs right now. You have at um
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: every level. You have good players on that defense, Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Davis and Lattimore, and then even the back Marcus Williams
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  Speaker 1: is playing great at safety. Yeah, they're a good team.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: They're a good team. Thomas yesterday two yards receiving an
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: eleven catches, two touchdowns. I mean, he's no DJ, but
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: they better hope. They better hope Jalen has a real
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: good healer with that back. They need him. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see Jalen playing. No, no really got inside information.
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  Speaker 1: I have zero, and that if he's healthy, the specialist
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: is like, hey you're healthy. Right, my gut says he's
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: not playing. I hope I'm wrong and I have no
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  Speaker 1: inside information zero, just my gut. I have a gut.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it big right now, Vikings over the Giants
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: eight to ten. The Bikes get it done. When is
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: uh se Kwan coming back? Pete? I doubt he plays
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  Speaker 1: this week? They played Thursday night. Yeah, I know I'm
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: doing the game. You're doing the game. I'd be shocked
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  Speaker 1: if he plays Thursday night. I wouldn't play him then
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  Speaker 1: to get an extra ten days then he can come
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  Speaker 1: back down. Yeah, I wouldn't play him either. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing that Giants team with Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 1: and s Kwon Berkeley. Keep it high on that young
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: receiver from Auburn, Slayton. He's starting to make plays. I
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  Speaker 1: liked him when I saw him in the spring. Gallum,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: the gallum, the backup, uh he had the concussion or
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: they're down to the third back. They got this use
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, And here's the thing they're going
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  Speaker 1: to New England. Bill Belichick, what I'll give you each
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: of guess what what is his record against rookie quarterbacks
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: at home in Foxboro? And oh chew them. Yeah, it's
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: not even close. He's seventeen and five all time. By
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: the way, Kirk Cousins, the passing game got called out
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: and he responded. But of course it wasn't a big game, right,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: not a big game. He always plays well in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Is not a big game this week? They got the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Big games. See how you do this week? Kirk speaking
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  Speaker 1: of the Eagles, him out, that's right, that's everybody out
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: the selling. No, you're scared. Speaking of the Eagles defense,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: they scored a couple of times and not big game
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: is gaze one and done. No, But the who's gonna win?
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  Speaker 1: Who would win with the garbage they got on the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: field there, you would really Raiders over the Bears in
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: London at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, first NFL game in that facility.
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  Speaker 1: Look great on TV. It did look nice on TV,
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  Speaker 1: really nice. But again the Bears and what this is
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: what they can look at Chase Daniels starting for Jabinski.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: That's not why they lost the Raiders beat him up
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  Speaker 1: up front. That defense is supposed to be dominant. They
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  Speaker 1: Jacobs ran wild you remember a hundred and thirty yards
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever, scored twice. They beat him. They didn't up
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  Speaker 1: near Derek Carr. They just dominated him up front. That's
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: the Bears defense. That's on them. Ravens over the Steelers. Three.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph knocked out on the field. The cart to
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  Speaker 1: get him off the field malfunctioned, so they had to
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: basically walk him off the field. Um, but he won't
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: remember any of it anyway. It's a bad look. He's
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: walking off the field with no face mask on. Not
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: a good look. Did you see the hit? Oh my god,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: right in the chin, I mean and out before he
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: hit the ground. Oh he was, He was out immediately,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: and I mean he didn't think he was gonna get up.
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  Speaker 1: And they have to cart him off but there was
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: no car and then then then they got him off.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: But the kid came in and played well, the kid
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: from Sandford, he did some nice things. Was it was
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: it a legal hit? No? I got him in the chin,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: like in the in the helmet. Not legal? Yeah, why
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: it hit him in the helmet? Was he a runner?
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Or was he in the pocket. He was throwing the
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: ball in the pocket. I didn't know. It's all over Twitter.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: You look at it. You've been on your on your
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: phone in the last three segments. When the way they
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: did a good great job on Lamar Jackson the Steelers did.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: He was very o he was average, blow average yesterday
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: three three interceptions in a fumble. Yeah, he was below average.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: He killed me in fantasy Jujus Schuster, by the way,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: fumbled and over time they had a chance to go
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: get the winning points and he fumbled and then the
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Ravens turned into a field goal. The way to go.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Patriots are going to the Super Bowl? Aren't they beat
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: the Waltz? It's a wolf who's beating them the if
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs are healthy, they can Chiefs aren't beating them
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: at with that defense at New England. Sorry, not happening. Well, listen, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to burst your bubble, but they're not
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: going sixteen and oh Patriots, Well, I mean they play
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, don't they later in the year in in
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: New England. If they beat the Chiefs, that's two they'll
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: beat two up on them and then you're gonna win
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: that's Week fourteen. They're not it's gonna win. They might
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: be going undefeated. To look at their schedule, it's not
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: that hard looking at it right now. Giants, Jets, Brown's Ravens.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Bye week, Ravens can beat I'm golhead. Where's the Ravens
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: game at It's in Baltimore game they can be they
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: won't lose that game. Then a bye week, and then
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: at Philly. They can lose that game home against Cowboys.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: They can lose that game at Houston. They can lose
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: that game home against the Chiefs. Since they never lose
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: to Houston, they're not losing that one. They can lose
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: five games. They're going on. They're gonna lose two games,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna beat the Chiefs, and the Chiefs will
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: lose two. Literally, just said something. There's two different things.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: In the same sense. You said going undefeated, they're gonna
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: lose two games. I did defeated. Said they will lose
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: two games, and they will go fourteen and two. They
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: will beat them, they will beat the Chiefs and Chiefs
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: will have to go to New England. Go back and listen.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: Said they'll be undefeated and they'll lose two games. No,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: they're going Look they're going to the super Bowl again.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: It's a Waltz. I agree with that. Broncos over the Chargers,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Broncos first win of the year. Chargers dropped their third.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Chargers have to many injuries. It's too much amazing how
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: many injuries day it might be without Mike Fancy and
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: a neck injury yesterday right out of the game. Literally
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: half their team is hurt. Why does that always happen
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: to that? Why? I don't know. But they're not gonna
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: win it. I don't think they're wearing much this year. No.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Packers over the Cowboys. Thirty Jones had shot rushing touchdown.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: That was the shocker. How many did Zekiel Elliott run for?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: Because I watched that Packard defense the week before against
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: the Eagles and they couldn't have stopped Pete and I
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: zek ran for sixty two yards on I watched the game.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: He got a lot of it later. I watched the
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: game and I but I couldn't really tell without watching
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: the tape whether he finally put another bigger player on
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: the field. Tony. You saw him get gassed. They were
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: playing that that small little defense they were playing with
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: the dime linebacker the station killed. And by the way,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: that Darius Smith was phenomenal yesterday just dominated up front.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: They beat they beat, They beat the Cowboys line pretty good.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: Now there wasn't no Tyron Smith, so you gotta factor
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: that in as well. You mean, do you mean Jack
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: Mark got beat one time? Oh here we go, Benjamin?
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Well again, Benjam. You need to Benjam Benjam Ben Jack
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: the backup right guard in his place. Jack Prescott averages
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: average could be the last two weeks, still talking about
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: paying him thirty five million dollars. Everybody, you gonna pay him.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: You gonna pay him thirty to remember, remember he's not
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: gonna take the deal. Prices going up every game. Were
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: the last two games gone down, But you have to
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: pay him. If your Dallas a franchise deal, you have to.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Of course, they would pay him thirty and he was
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: gonna go to thirty five. Now, yeah, that's that's a
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: good thing. You're having our look around the National Football
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: League in Week five. One more question, sorry, Pete, who's
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: the best quarterback? Give me the top five quarterbacks in
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: the NFL right now, rank them go. Mahomes is number one,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: Wilson is number two. Wow, that is breaking news. Pete
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: Briscoe said, Russell Wilson is the second best quarter at
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and Pete, he's turned. He's turned the corner.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: I hated him a couple of years. You still say
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: he leaves the pocket too much, but that's his game.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: I still say he leaves the yes. But you know what,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: I still think that the Seahawks and let him play
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: faster more than they do. Yeh, hurry, okay, So russells
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: to keep going. Uh three would be three is tough.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: Rogers is still three and not playing that great. But
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: he's three. Who's four? Right? Watson? Watson's gotta be up there?
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: No mit us five, top five mits. I'll take misshe
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: we wins, Yeah, I will. Okay, get the Eagles just
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: called for trade? Would you take straight up? You get
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: wed for Minshew? I got Minshew. He's a mustache bro.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's time now for Monday Night football.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns are the NFL's darlings of the off season,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: but the inconsistency has plagued them early in At two
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: and two, they make a West Coast road trip to
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: face the last unbeaten team in the NFC the San
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners, and they're highly paid but not quite
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: elite yet. But maybe he could be quarterback Jimmy Garopfolo.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: Who you got tonight in Santa Clara Right now, the
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: forty Niners have one of the best defenses in all football.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Their defensive coordinator old linebacker coach here for the Jaguar
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: sala Um. I like the forty Niners. It's in Santa Clara.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: The forty Nights are coming off of bye. I don't
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: like to buy the Monday night that's weird, but I
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: think they absolutely hammer the Browns tonight. I'm I agree
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: with you, Tony. I think that defense will be all
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: over Baker Mayfield and they will not let Nick Chobb run.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: And you know what, there's an Exaguar coach who actually
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: has his linebackers. They actually played their run fits. Wow.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: Shot shot taken shot by Pete Friscoe. Here you have it,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: so Pete, you agree, Min the fifth best quarterback in
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: the league. I expect to put it on CBS. Minshu
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Mania is a great thing for the city of Jacksonville,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: though it's a great thing nationally. Do you see Phil
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Sims came down and interviewed him in the NFL today.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: He's been all over the national broadcast the last couple
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: of weeks. He's great. It's all on the ball in
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: the pocket. If it just end this to it would
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: be so negative. Pete. Not gonna end, Pete, the you
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: don't have if he if he plays well, he's staying.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: But what happens if it just ends and folds comes
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: back and then like five years from now, every day
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: to go remember that little four games, little run when
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: the Gardner Minshew was the Minshew mania. You're so negative,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: grow a mustache, but a jockstrap on. Come back to people.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: Talk to you. Pete Priscoe, Senior writer, CBS Sports. Tony
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: was Selly pride of the Jaguars left tackle. You've heard
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: of him for our entire crew. I'm j P. Shadrick Trent.
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