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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's still.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Welcome.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Everybody, Welcome to this week's edition is Still Real Does
- 0:21Speaker 3: Show Episode number seven seventy two for November twenty eight,
- 0:25Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. This is your aw full gear recap
- 0:28Speaker 3: and we Survivor Series, Wargames Weekly and Predictions Edition Up
- 0:33Speaker 3: ass our team you.
- 0:36Speaker 2: I am one alf of the show. I am Jeff Pack,
- 0:39Speaker 2: joined every single week by my co host, the one
- 0:42Speaker 2: only doctor Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey. Happy Thanksgiving, my friend
- 0:48Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving.
- 0:50Speaker 4: This is got what are twelve Thanksgiving together? So we're
- 0:55Speaker 4: at this point. We are family. So I I'm always
- 0:58Speaker 4: as always thankful for you than for everybody. But I'm
- 1:01Speaker 4: excited because this is my favorite, one of my favorite,
- 1:04Speaker 4: not favorite, but top two, top three holidays because just
- 1:08Speaker 4: the gluttonous nature of humanity now kind of caters to this.
- 1:14Speaker 4: And I've already checked with the family to make sure
- 1:16Speaker 4: that it's not just turkey. We got to, like, I
- 1:19Speaker 4: have to have ham on Thanksgiving, So grandma and mother
- 1:23Speaker 4: in law are making sure that there is a ham
- 1:26Speaker 4: in the oven for me while everybody else engulfs the turkey.
- 1:30Speaker 2: So it's funny, and we've probably had this discussion every
- 1:33Speaker 2: year we talk about this show and talk about the
- 1:35Speaker 2: holiday on this show. I feel like it switches at
- 1:40Speaker 2: some point, maybe like in my early twenties for me,
- 1:44Speaker 2: and I am still to this day a big Christmas guy.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Literally behind me as I record the show. We put
- 1:50Speaker 2: our Christmas tree up this week. But at some point,
- 1:54Speaker 2: as you get older, you switch from Christmas to Thanksgiving,
- 1:58Speaker 2: or at least I did. Were you the same way
- 2:01Speaker 2: because Thanksgiving? Like I'm super hyped for Thanksgiving right now
- 2:05Speaker 2: because I love Thursday. I love the food. We typically
- 2:09Speaker 2: play a football game, not sure if we're going to
- 2:11Speaker 2: be able to do that yet because of the weather
- 2:13Speaker 2: forecast it's going to be hitting us in the area.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And then I just watch football all day. My packers
- 2:19Speaker 2: are playing on Sunday or Thursday night, which I'm excited about.
- 2:23Speaker 2: But this at some point, Doctor Trey, unless you always
- 2:27Speaker 2: were a Thanksgiving guy, I feel like for most people,
- 2:30Speaker 2: like the older you get, this becomes the holiday.
- 2:34Speaker 4: For most of us, it shifts back and forth, especially when.
- 2:39Speaker 1: You have kids. Because good point.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Like when I was younger, when I was you know,
- 2:43Speaker 4: a kid, and even to my early teens, I love Christmas.
- 2:46Speaker 4: And then you know, once you get a certain age,
- 2:48Speaker 4: your parents have no idea what to get you anymore.
- 2:52Speaker 4: It kind of loses that luster a little bit, so
- 2:55Speaker 4: you kind of drift over to Thanksgiving because as a teenager,
- 2:58Speaker 4: dear God, I can just eat a ton of food
- 3:00Speaker 4: and not really gain any weight from it. And it
- 3:02Speaker 4: kind of stayed that way until the kids came along,
- 3:04Speaker 4: and then you kind of get that joy of Christmas
- 3:07Speaker 4: back with the kids. But like right now, like it's
- 3:11Speaker 4: funny as you bring that up, Like my nephew looked
- 3:16Speaker 4: at his grandma yesterday and goes, Grandma, I don't like
- 3:19Speaker 4: Thanksgiving because it's all about adults eating and talking and
- 3:23Speaker 4: that's it. And I was like, no, that's literally what
- 3:25Speaker 4: Thanksgiving is. Just hang out with some people that you
- 3:28Speaker 4: that you moderately to actually like tell stories, eat a
- 3:33Speaker 4: bunch of food, and hopefully pass out at home and
- 3:37Speaker 4: not at somebody else's house, which actually does harken back
- 3:41Speaker 4: to your teenage years.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Yes, very very true. This is the holiday that has
- 3:45Speaker 2: it's like you have a day for the holiday itself
- 3:48Speaker 2: and then you have a day to recover and just
- 3:52Speaker 2: it's an immediate four day weekend. Every other holiday unless
- 3:56Speaker 2: it falls like the day before a weekend. On a weekend, you,
- 4:01Speaker 2: I think Christmas is a Wednesday this year, So Christmas
- 4:04Speaker 2: is on a Wednesday, then I think, I think Thursday.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I mean, I'm working, it's it's a slow day. But
- 4:13Speaker 2: it's like you only get one day in the middle
- 4:15Speaker 2: of the week. Like it's always that the super Bowl debate.
- 4:20Speaker 2: They've always said where on super Bowl Sunday should be
- 4:23Speaker 2: a national holiday and the day after the super Bowl
- 4:26Speaker 2: should be a day off for most people. So I
- 4:30Speaker 2: guess it's like you got the main event and then
- 4:33Speaker 2: you got a day to recover. It's I don't think
- 4:36Speaker 2: that there is a better holiday, and I agree with you.
- 4:39Speaker 2: It probably will change for me when like my son
- 4:43Speaker 2: gets older, But right now, I'm I'm still I'm still
- 4:46Speaker 2: all about Thanksgiving.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:48Speaker 4: My issue is with the business I'm in and being
- 4:51Speaker 4: involved in retail.
- 4:52Speaker 1: I don't get the Friday off because of.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Black Friday boom I have I have folks Now, Luckily,
- 5:00Speaker 4: you don't have to be in store when the store
- 5:01Speaker 4: is open, because look, nobody's gonna want to stop and
- 5:05Speaker 4: talk to us about gutters first thing in the morning.
- 5:08Speaker 4: We got to wait till that ten o'clock eleven o'clock.
- 5:10Speaker 4: We got wait for the people that have already hit
- 5:12Speaker 4: like three or four stores and they're just like, oh, yeah,
- 5:14Speaker 4: we gotta get.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Some stuff to fix some stuff at the house.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the Furbie the Cabbage Patch kid in
- 5:18Speaker 2: their hand and they come to you.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Yeah, they've already done that stuff. So for us, it's
- 5:23Speaker 4: kind of like I still gotta be out there. Luckily
- 5:24Speaker 4: right now, like you and I were talking about here,
- 5:26Speaker 4: I'm having to rebuild the division, so I only have
- 5:29Speaker 4: a couple of people that are gonna be on the
- 5:31Speaker 4: field on that day. So I just have to be
- 5:34Speaker 4: the good manager and make sure they know I am
- 5:36Speaker 4: out there too and not sitting at home relaxing.
- 5:39Speaker 1: But you know, for for most folks, like you know.
- 5:43Speaker 4: My uh, the guy who took over for me in
- 5:45Speaker 4: my old district, he's taken a four day I mean,
- 5:48Speaker 4: we built that team up, he's taking the whole four
- 5:50Speaker 4: days off. He's taken off from Wednesday until Sunday, well one, two, three, four,
- 5:55Speaker 4: five days off, So he's going away for the entire
- 5:57Speaker 4: time and going out of town. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
- 6:00Speaker 4: if the other thing is I don't really have anywhere
- 6:02Speaker 4: else to go. I could go to North Carolina, but
- 6:04Speaker 4: really for me is like this is.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Kind of my home.
- 6:07Speaker 4: But look, I gotta get back to work and get
- 6:09Speaker 4: on the grind and kind of rebuild this thing. But
- 6:11Speaker 4: for those folks to get to take the four days,
- 6:13Speaker 4: the five days, the six days, whatever it is. Man,
- 6:16Speaker 4: God bless you, and good luck dealing with airports and travel.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Right now, so you mentioned the ham before you've already
- 6:23Speaker 2: asked your mother in law to make a ham. Is
- 6:26Speaker 2: there any other like food traditions or just overall traditions
- 6:30Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving that that you it's a must have to
- 6:34Speaker 2: either eat or do on Thanksgiving each year.
- 6:39Speaker 1: My three favorite dishes and it's ham.
- 6:43Speaker 4: I need stuffing, slash dressing, whatever you want to call it,
- 6:46Speaker 4: depending on what part of the country you're in. And
- 6:48Speaker 4: I love devil diggs so and if I have to
- 6:51Speaker 4: make the devil eggs out, that's fine because I'll make
- 6:54Speaker 4: a bunch for everybody who's coming to the thing, and
- 6:55Speaker 4: then I'll make another plate just to keep it home.
- 6:57Speaker 1: But those are my three goes go tos.
- 6:59Speaker 4: It's funny that back when I was traveling and I
- 7:02Speaker 4: would go to the Northeast, my friend Jordan. I would
- 7:05Speaker 4: sometimes be stuck in Massachusetts Rhode Island on Thanksgiving and
- 7:10Speaker 4: he would always invite me over to his family's house
- 7:13Speaker 4: and his mother made this like sausage onion stuffing and
- 7:20Speaker 4: it was the best thing I was having, and I
- 7:23Speaker 4: used to this day. I'll text him like, I know
- 7:27Speaker 4: your mom's still alive, So I'm not going to ask
- 7:30Speaker 4: for the family recipe yet, but just just reminder I
- 7:32Speaker 4: need that recipe at some point to make it down here.
- 7:36Speaker 4: I don't know if it's their family is Ukrainian, I believe,
- 7:39Speaker 4: so I don't know if it's something that came over
- 7:41Speaker 4: from from that part of the world. But oh my god,
- 7:45Speaker 4: like I don't know if it maybe just the way
- 7:46Speaker 4: she made it, don't. I mean, it's just crazy. It's
- 7:51Speaker 4: just how crazy, how good it was. That was the
- 7:54Speaker 4: first time.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, it's crazy good. I'm mean.
- 7:57Speaker 4: By the way, this is another great thing about having
- 7:58Speaker 4: a five year old. If you say certain words, they
- 8:01Speaker 4: will tell you not to say those certain words anymore.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Fair enough, Hey, listen, somebody, it's the holdest accountable right yeah.
- 8:07Speaker 2: So yeah, so yep, Thanksgiving this Thursday, we're obviously releasing
- 8:13Speaker 2: the show a little bit early. We're hoping it will
- 8:16Speaker 2: be dropped by Wednesday. At this point, we're recording earlier
- 8:19Speaker 2: this week to settle up and joy some time with
- 8:22Speaker 2: friends and family and get away for a little bit
- 8:25Speaker 2: recap what's been going on the world professional rest in
- 8:27Speaker 2: the last couple of days. Look forward to this Saturday,
- 8:29Speaker 2: Survivor Series war Games. There's some other stuff that we'll
- 8:32Speaker 2: talk about here as well as part of our regular
- 8:34Speaker 2: Thanksgiving special that we do each and every year. This
- 8:36Speaker 2: is the fourteenth year we've been doing Thanksgiving Special twelve
- 8:40Speaker 2: with Doctor Trey. Let's get into it. Doctor Trey AW
- 8:43Speaker 2: full gear recap review this Saturday from this past Saturday
- 8:46Speaker 2: from the Potential Center in Newark, New Jersey. The first
- 8:50Speaker 2: pre show match was and A j defeating Diana Parrazzo.
- 8:53Speaker 2: We did not predict this one. Just a couple of
- 8:56Speaker 2: notes from this one. And A Jay's really came into
- 8:58Speaker 2: our own as an entering worker, and Dianna's AW run
- 9:01Speaker 2: has been surprisingly disappointing. Your thoughts on this one, Doctor.
- 9:05Speaker 4: Trey sounds just about like every other person they brought
- 9:09Speaker 4: it from outside the company that their run has been
- 9:11Speaker 4: slightly disappointing. I like, I like Anna j I like
- 9:15Speaker 4: how far she's come, But for one, she should have
- 9:19Speaker 4: never won. This match just matches in Deanna Pross's backyard,
- 9:22Speaker 4: So let Deanna win by some screwjob. Don't like you're
- 9:25Speaker 4: having the person the new babyface from Georgia come in
- 9:28Speaker 4: and when I get it, she just lost to Mariah
- 9:31Speaker 4: May so you're trying to build her back up. But
- 9:33Speaker 4: Deanna's the better wrestler right now, so it's okay to
- 9:37Speaker 4: let the better wrestler win the match in her backyard
- 9:41Speaker 4: on a pay per view when she has another person
- 9:44Speaker 4: at ringside backing Euroupe, which, by the way, that spot
- 9:48Speaker 4: where Ti of speared aa Jay and the referee saw
- 9:53Speaker 4: it and they're like they had to cover up by
- 9:54Speaker 4: saying it's the referees discretion to disqualify people. That that
- 9:59Speaker 4: was such a out. Uh but yeah, just it was.
- 10:02Speaker 4: It was an okay match, but it just it doesn't
- 10:05Speaker 4: make sense in the grand scheme of things.
- 10:07Speaker 2: There's gonna be I feel like a lot of that
- 10:10Speaker 2: when it comes to this edition of aw Full Gear.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Next match year was Buddy Matthews defeating Dante Martin Commander
- 10:17Speaker 2: and the Beast Mortals in a fatal four way match.
- 10:19Speaker 2: We did not predict this one. This is a fast paced,
- 10:22Speaker 2: smooth and fun four way match that made a case
- 10:24Speaker 2: of being on the main card in my opinion, Doctor
- 10:26Speaker 2: Trey and I kind of if you look back at it,
- 10:31Speaker 2: this entire card, I feel like this was one of
- 10:33Speaker 2: at least the top five matches from full gear.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Yeah, this was just I mean, this was It was
- 10:40Speaker 1: just a fun match.
- 10:41Speaker 4: And sometimes these little four ways when there's no real rivalry,
- 10:45Speaker 4: there's no real stories, Like all right, I just got
- 10:47Speaker 4: to watch this for the action. It had all the
- 10:49Speaker 4: action you needed, and you had, you know, contrasting styles there.
- 10:53Speaker 4: You had two high flyers. You had to you know,
- 10:55Speaker 4: Buddy Murphy's just like I think they said it a
- 10:58Speaker 4: few times on the commentary team of the best pure
- 11:00Speaker 4: athletes in aw and then Mortos in himself is an anomaly.
- 11:06Speaker 4: By the way, when you ddt a guy, I don't
- 11:08Speaker 4: think we heard this. He took the DDT on his horns.
- 11:11Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever heard that phrase mentioned before.
- 11:14Speaker 4: But yeah, it was a really really fun match and
- 11:17Speaker 4: probably should have been on the main show. But at
- 11:20Speaker 4: least I'll tell them this much. At least, the matches
- 11:23Speaker 4: on the main show all had a little bit a
- 11:25Speaker 4: story leading into it for the most part, this one didn't,
- 11:27Speaker 4: so I kind of get why it was on the
- 11:29Speaker 4: pre show.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Next match here is Big boom Aj defe thing q
- 11:33Speaker 2: T Marshall. We both had Big boom Aj game and
- 11:36Speaker 2: victory here. I never thought I would see the day
- 11:38Speaker 2: where AW would have this type of match, let alone
- 11:41Speaker 2: on a pre show of a pay per view, as
- 11:43Speaker 2: it doesn't really fit the vision I think most restling
- 11:45Speaker 2: fans have Slash had for the AW product, where it's
- 11:49Speaker 2: a TikTok star getting ample time in the ring. Granted
- 11:53Speaker 2: he had professional wrestling background to get a little publicity
- 11:57Speaker 2: for all Lee wrestling. With that said, the crowd seemed
- 12:00Speaker 2: into it and it was a fun presentation. I truly
- 12:03Speaker 2: cannot hate on it. And then days later come to
- 12:06Speaker 2: find out Big boom Aj broke his foot earlier in
- 12:10Speaker 2: the day. I don't know what he was doing, maybe
- 12:12Speaker 2: running the ropes, and then still did the match. He
- 12:14Speaker 2: didn't want to dissid discipline anybody. All the reports back
- 12:18Speaker 2: on these guys have been very, very positive. I do
- 12:22Speaker 2: know them from being a fan of Barstool Sports. I
- 12:25Speaker 2: know doctor Trey was not accustomed to the Costco Guy universe,
- 12:31Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, Doctor Trey, your thoughts
- 12:34Speaker 2: on this one is big Boom AJ against the victory.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I didn't hate it.
- 12:39Speaker 4: I like, to me, I was sitting there going I
- 12:41Speaker 4: had no idea who these people were.
- 12:44Speaker 1: I didn't know what a rizzler was. I didn't know
- 12:46Speaker 1: what a big Justice was. I didn't know what a
- 12:48Speaker 1: big Boom AJ was.
- 12:50Speaker 4: QT Marshall had the worst spray tand I have seen
- 12:53Speaker 4: since Donald Trump comes out of Florida, like nothing about it,
- 12:57Speaker 4: like appearance wise, I'm like, this is going to be
- 12:59Speaker 4: got off. And then the crowd when AJ came out,
- 13:03Speaker 4: that crowd pop was huge and I was just like
- 13:07Speaker 4: kind of blown away, And I'm like, if the crowd's
- 13:10Speaker 4: popping like this for these guys and you're trying to
- 13:14Speaker 4: build an audience for AW, why's on the pre show.
- 13:17Speaker 1: It should be on the main show.
- 13:19Speaker 4: If these guys have millions and millions of followers on TikTok,
- 13:23Speaker 4: put them on the main show, get people to buy
- 13:26Speaker 4: the pay per view. And then the match itself was good.
- 13:31Speaker 4: It was some good storytelling. These guys have a history.
- 13:35Speaker 4: I could have done with less cuts to the Rizzler
- 13:38Speaker 4: doing the same face over and over again.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Yeah, what what did you think of the wristler face?
- 13:42Speaker 2: Is it something you forget you can do?
- 13:44Speaker 1: I mean I can touch my beard. I mean that's
- 13:46Speaker 1: what I do that all the time.
- 13:48Speaker 4: Like, but I just I'm just not a cute That kid,
- 13:51Speaker 4: which I will say, is the Wrizzler actually the son
- 13:54Speaker 4: of I know Justice is the son of AJ is
- 13:57Speaker 4: the Rizzler.
- 13:58Speaker 1: The son of AJ is the Rizal midget. I don't
- 14:01Speaker 1: know the thing.
- 14:04Speaker 2: He is not the son of AJ, nor is he?
- 14:06Speaker 1: Uh they stole a kid.
- 14:09Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the full background. I
- 14:10Speaker 2: believe he's like seven years old, like legitimately seven years old.
- 14:14Speaker 4: Like, how do you find a kid in Costco who's
- 14:16Speaker 4: seven to put on your TikTok to?
- 14:17Speaker 1: I mean that's usually how you end up in jail
- 14:20Speaker 1: most likely.
- 14:20Speaker 2: I don't know the background. Have everybody, how everybody met?
- 14:23Speaker 2: I would assume that in like two years, when Big Justice,
- 14:27Speaker 2: who is probably like in his early teens, develops a
- 14:30Speaker 2: drug habit and ends up in like celebrity rehab on
- 14:33Speaker 2: VH one, maybe we hear about all this because they
- 14:37Speaker 2: seem to be very level headed and grounded. But it
- 14:41Speaker 2: just like anything, like at some point something happens, right
- 14:45Speaker 2: like you and.
- 14:46Speaker 1: I talked about it.
- 14:47Speaker 4: It's the Andy Milanakas syndrome coming into play here.
- 14:51Speaker 2: I guess who was older than he looked on television.
- 14:55Speaker 2: He had he had a medical condition.
- 14:57Speaker 4: But correct me if I'm wrong, if if, if you would,
- 15:00Speaker 4: I are running a promotion and we get a I'm
- 15:03Speaker 4: air quoting here, you can't.
- 15:04Speaker 1: See it a celebrity.
- 15:05Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that has millions of followers and the crowd
- 15:10Speaker 4: gets a reaction like that because they're in the guys's backyard.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Why are you not putting that on the main show?
- 15:16Speaker 2: I understand. I don't think they want to. I mean typically,
- 15:21Speaker 2: I would have thought wrestling fans would have shot on
- 15:23Speaker 2: this typically. And then they had taped Rampage after Dynamite
- 15:27Speaker 2: last week in Albany and the videos I saw that
- 15:31Speaker 2: they did that way in on Rampage they got booed
- 15:34Speaker 2: when they came out, and in New Jersey it was
- 15:39Speaker 2: the complete opposite. I mean, they got a heroes welcome,
- 15:42Speaker 2: they got some of the biggest pops of the night,
- 15:45Speaker 2: and it shocked me. I would have thought the aw
- 15:47Speaker 2: audience would have crapped all over this.
- 15:50Speaker 4: I literally I think I was kind of I was
- 15:52Speaker 4: kind of keeping track, like, once I heard that pop
- 15:55Speaker 4: for those guys.
- 15:56Speaker 2: You thought Steve Austin was coming out, Well, I.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Was like, let me just see the rest of the show.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Is that an lod pop for Big boom Age.
- 16:03Speaker 4: I was kind of like, I just want to see
- 16:04Speaker 4: if anybody else got a louder pop than that. And
- 16:07Speaker 4: I think they had the second or third Lattice pop
- 16:10Speaker 4: on their entrance, and then in the way I think
- 16:14Speaker 4: maybe Garcia's popp might it jumped up over theirs when
- 16:16Speaker 4: Garcia won later on, but just off initial entrance, I
- 16:20Speaker 4: was like, Okay, these guys are are already kind of
- 16:22Speaker 4: over with the crowd.
- 16:23Speaker 1: So it was just I didn't hate the match. I mean,
- 16:26Speaker 1: it's nice when you get a guy. Yeah.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Does he look like every single overweight indie guy I've
- 16:32Speaker 4: met out there?
- 16:33Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 16:34Speaker 2: Oh, this is a mid to late two thousand's Italian
- 16:38Speaker 2: guido from New Jersey being like put into a wrestling
- 16:42Speaker 2: ring like he And again, all things considered, from everything
- 16:47Speaker 2: I'm reading and everything that i'm hearing, and you know
- 16:49Speaker 2: how the wrestling world is. These guys were very humble,
- 16:52Speaker 2: They were very nice, cordial, and everybody liked them. And
- 16:56Speaker 2: I think it does come off the screen and that
- 16:58Speaker 2: it is an infectious personality. They seem genuine.
- 17:02Speaker 4: That's one of the things that you and I talk about,
- 17:04Speaker 4: we've been talking about for fourteen years, is that when
- 17:07Speaker 4: guys are having fun, we feel it and kind of response.
- 17:12Speaker 4: And those guys were having fun. I mean, that was
- 17:15Speaker 4: Aja's dream right there. I mean, obviously being an independent
- 17:18Speaker 4: wrestler back in the early two thousands, never getting the
- 17:22Speaker 4: big break.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Dude, he did the Brett Hart walk down slapping everybody's hands.
- 17:28Speaker 2: An ex caliber was like, this is quite the introduction.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Here he went behind the announced table.
- 17:35Speaker 2: He was soaking it off. You could see it in
- 17:37Speaker 2: his eyes legitimately.
- 17:39Speaker 4: Like he was appreciative for the environment he was in,
- 17:43Speaker 4: like he knew if he never gets another job, this.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Is his thing.
- 17:49Speaker 4: And by the way, that song does get kind of catchy.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Oh yeah, back this after a while, like I hated
- 17:53Speaker 4: it when you play for me last week, And then
- 17:56Speaker 4: by the five minute mark of their entrance, I was like, Okay,
- 18:00Speaker 4: too bad.
- 18:00Speaker 1: It's kind of catchy. At least it's a good wrestling
- 18:02Speaker 1: theme as well.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Oh it's crazy. My hope is is that you after
- 18:08Speaker 2: the show, you sit young Sammy Franklin down and you
- 18:12Speaker 2: introduce him to the Costco metaverse.
- 18:15Speaker 4: I actually think I might because he's a big There's
- 18:19Speaker 4: a lot of other shows out there on between YouTube
- 18:21Speaker 4: and stuff like that he'll watch that have way worse
- 18:25Speaker 4: theme songs and more annoying people than that, So I
- 18:27Speaker 4: will definitely introduce them to this.
- 18:29Speaker 2: I can't. We have spent more time talking about this
- 18:32Speaker 2: match than I would ever think, but it's it was
- 18:34Speaker 2: a very noteworthy item, and yeah, check the shit out
- 18:37Speaker 2: of me. Main car here, Doctor Trey, let's get into
- 18:40Speaker 2: a private party defeat the outrunners Kings of the Black
- 18:43Speaker 2: Throne and the Acclaim in a four way tag team
- 18:45Speaker 2: match to retain the aw World Tag Team Championship. We
- 18:48Speaker 2: both had private party in this one. My notes from
- 18:49Speaker 2: this I thought it was a sloppy match. I had
- 18:52Speaker 2: questionable spots in it, like the Acclaim pinning one another
- 18:55Speaker 2: and commentary not leading up to the fact that they
- 18:57Speaker 2: were both the legal men prior to that. I don't
- 18:59Speaker 2: remember anybody on commentary saying that Bowen's and Caster are
- 19:03Speaker 2: illegal right now. By the way, for those wrestling historians
- 19:07Speaker 2: out there, that is an old spot from the New
- 19:09Speaker 2: Age Outlaws back in the day, like on an old
- 19:11Speaker 2: episode of Raw, like ninety seven ninety eight, And it
- 19:13Speaker 2: would have been nice if it was mentioned like, oh,
- 19:15Speaker 2: this is a playbook out of Billy Gunn or out
- 19:18Speaker 2: of the page out of Billy Gunn's playbook, but they
- 19:20Speaker 2: didn't even do that either. It was not a match
- 19:23Speaker 2: that accomplished spotlighting this new era of tag team wrestling
- 19:26Speaker 2: aw and that was disappointing to see. The biggest takeaway
- 19:30Speaker 2: was the issues between the acclaimed in this match. Max
- 19:32Speaker 2: Caster is a guy that is going to be a
- 19:35Speaker 2: very good natural heel, and it certainly seems like he's
- 19:39Speaker 2: laying into that right now, and I thought that was
- 19:40Speaker 2: the biggest story from the entire match. Your thoughts on
- 19:43Speaker 2: this one, Doctor Trey, Yeah.
- 19:45Speaker 4: I figured out by watching this show that outside of
- 19:48Speaker 4: the Outrunners, if you have a shitty mustache, that means
- 19:50Speaker 4: you're a heel, because remember Roderick had one, and then
- 19:54Speaker 4: for this match he shaved his off later on, so
- 19:57Speaker 4: didn't he didn't have it?
- 19:57Speaker 1: Later on.
- 20:00Speaker 4: Sometimes it's like, why are the tag belts not on
- 20:02Speaker 4: the Kings of the Black Throne, Like they're super everybody.
- 20:05Speaker 4: The fans love Brody King, they love Malachi Black.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Look.
- 20:10Speaker 4: I like Private Party. They are deserving. They've been there
- 20:12Speaker 4: since day one. They deserve it. But the fact that
- 20:16Speaker 4: Kings of the Black Throat have not had the tag
- 20:17Speaker 4: belts yet it baffles me. And it's always weird to
- 20:20Speaker 4: me at the AW that a team gets hot and
- 20:23Speaker 4: then they don't make the move for the tag belts,
- 20:26Speaker 4: and then when the team cools off, that's when they
- 20:28Speaker 4: give them the tag belts.
- 20:29Speaker 2: We'll look at the Outrunners right now.
- 20:31Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like the Outrunner is the
- 20:32Speaker 4: most over tag team in AAW. They're not getting the belts.
- 20:36Speaker 4: Private Party that which was super over five years ago,
- 20:40Speaker 4: four years ago and then cooled off, and then it
- 20:42Speaker 4: took this last little storyline with Moxley and the Bucks
- 20:45Speaker 4: to get him back up there. You know, it's like
- 20:47Speaker 4: they they should pull the trigger on Private Party four
- 20:50Speaker 4: years ago.
- 20:51Speaker 1: It's just they they're.
- 20:51Speaker 4: They're timing on, you know, putting guys over is weird,
- 20:55Speaker 4: and then the acclaimed it is weird when you have
- 20:58Speaker 4: a tag team like Private Party, which is kind of
- 21:01Speaker 4: the Street Profits, then you have the Acclaimed, which is
- 21:04Speaker 4: kind of the New Day, and both those tag teams
- 21:06Speaker 4: are having problems at the same time.
- 21:07Speaker 1: It's just kind of weird that.
- 21:09Speaker 4: They'll say, oh ww copies AW and AW copies WWE,
- 21:12Speaker 4: and then you see it play out on your TV.
- 21:14Speaker 1: It is kind of funny to actually watch it in
- 21:16Speaker 1: real life.
- 21:18Speaker 2: Next Mett year is MJF defeating roder Strong both at
- 21:20Speaker 2: MGF and this one. I can't seem to put my
- 21:23Speaker 2: finger on the direction of this MJF Adam Cole, roder Strong,
- 21:26Speaker 2: Kyle o' riley's stuff yet and if I like it
- 21:29Speaker 2: or if I'm confused by it. The fans seem to
- 21:32Speaker 2: be more into MGF wrestling again rather than supporting roder Strong,
- 21:35Speaker 2: which makes sense because why should I all of a
- 21:38Speaker 2: sudden be supporting the Undisputed Kingdom after what they initially
- 21:41Speaker 2: did to MGF at the Closer World's End last year.
- 21:44Speaker 2: It was nice to see MGF back in the ring
- 21:46Speaker 2: after Strong twenty twenty twenty three, and I wonder if
- 21:50Speaker 2: he'll be back as a regular contributor on AW television
- 21:53Speaker 2: each week. That's sure your thoughts on this one.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I hated the booking eating in this matchup because
- 22:01Speaker 4: it was two months ago. You know, the unspeaker Kingdom
- 22:05Speaker 4: was trying to take out Taz, I mean trying to
- 22:06Speaker 4: take out Hook and they had that rivalry.
- 22:09Speaker 2: And then they hugged him, remember.
- 22:11Speaker 1: And then it was like a handshake and hug it.
- 22:12Speaker 4: And I remember on the show going I hate that
- 22:14Speaker 4: stuff because that now because you show the respect, now
- 22:17Speaker 4: we have to like you like I don't get it.
- 22:20Speaker 4: And then I don't know. I love MGF being back
- 22:23Speaker 4: in the ring. I thought the promo he put out,
- 22:26Speaker 4: I think it was it was a dynamite on rampay
- 22:28Speaker 4: or on collision with the Roddy's mom. Anyway, he's in
- 22:32Speaker 4: the parking lot sitting on the hood of a of
- 22:34Speaker 4: a transamin from a trailer. I camera what it was.
- 22:36Speaker 4: I thought that was not one of his better promos.
- 22:41Speaker 4: So I really don't know if I like this because
- 22:44Speaker 4: we're trying to get to Adam calling MJF again, but
- 22:48Speaker 4: it just feels so disjointed right now and kind of
- 22:51Speaker 4: out of place. I'm just I'm happy to see all
- 22:54Speaker 4: of these guys in the ring because they're all my favorites.
- 22:56Speaker 1: But right now it just kind of feels like I
- 22:59Speaker 1: have a puzzle.
- 23:00Speaker 4: I'm looking at and none of the piece is fit.
- 23:02Speaker 1: To make the picture to come into site.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to make of it yet.
- 23:07Speaker 2: It's it's all very, very strange. The MGF booking in
- 23:10Speaker 2: twenty twenty four has been confusing in all honesty. Next
- 23:16Speaker 2: match here is Mercedes Monet defeating Chris Statlander to retain
- 23:18Speaker 2: the AWTBS Championship. We both had Mercedes Monee in this one.
- 23:23Speaker 2: I thought this was a great match, Doctor Trey. Some
- 23:25Speaker 2: of the near falls were a bit much, but it
- 23:27Speaker 2: got the crowd involved and helped the match reach its
- 23:29Speaker 2: climax to reach the end there. I think Mercedes being
- 23:33Speaker 2: the AWTBS Champion Champion has been a detriment to the
- 23:36Speaker 2: aw Women's World Championship, and I think this could have
- 23:39Speaker 2: been a good spot to drop the title to the
- 23:41Speaker 2: Statlander some Mercedes and get involved in the world Tider
- 23:43Speaker 2: picture at some point. I really really enjoyed this match,
- 23:46Speaker 2: Doctor Trey. I know you're a Mercedes not the biggest
- 23:48Speaker 2: Mercedes fan in the world, and I trashed her on
- 23:50Speaker 2: last week's show, but you got to give credit where
- 23:53Speaker 2: credit is due, and Monette and stat Lander brought it
- 23:55Speaker 2: on Saturday night.
- 23:57Speaker 4: You don't hear me say this very often, but I
- 24:01Speaker 4: love this match. This was a great match and they
- 24:05Speaker 4: told stories, they played into injuries they like. Not only
- 24:09Speaker 4: were the workers on point, but commentary was really good
- 24:12Speaker 4: in this match too, that some of the near falls
- 24:14Speaker 4: were great. It was also and maybe listen, I'm an
- 24:19Speaker 4: old guy. Some people knocking for this. It was a
- 24:21Speaker 4: WWE tempo match. They'd hit big moves, they sold it.
- 24:26Speaker 4: It gave it time to digest before they went to
- 24:29Speaker 4: the next thing like it was.
- 24:30Speaker 1: The pacing was really good.
- 24:32Speaker 4: So for somebody who has criticized the entire Mercedes Monet
- 24:37Speaker 4: run in aw and I've been saying since she got
- 24:39Speaker 4: the title, like this, it makes the Women's world title
- 24:42Speaker 4: feel inferior because everybody she's fighting is a bigger star
- 24:46Speaker 4: than what's in the world title picture. Like, I don't know,
- 24:51Speaker 4: and we will probably cover I don't know half the
- 24:53Speaker 4: people that are challenging Mariah May, but I know everybody
- 24:56Speaker 4: that's challenging Mercedes Mone So it does kind of feel
- 24:59Speaker 4: like it's convoluting the tie the women's picture, but that aside,
- 25:03Speaker 4: this was a fantastic match, So I give those girls
- 25:06Speaker 4: a ton of credits for pulling together something that maybe
- 25:10Speaker 4: didn't have a great storyline and didn't have a lot
- 25:12Speaker 4: of great bill to it as far as the technicalities
- 25:15Speaker 4: and stuff, but they pulled it off at this match.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Next match is j White defeating Hagman Adam Page. We
- 25:20Speaker 2: both had Adam Paige and this one the finish was
- 25:23Speaker 2: really good. After a match that I felt dragged down
- 25:25Speaker 2: a little bit, I really enjoyed their Wrestl Dream matches
- 25:27Speaker 2: was my match of the night last month. This seemed
- 25:29Speaker 2: to focus on Hangman Page really dominating Jay White and
- 25:32Speaker 2: focusing on White's injured ankle, only to be caught by
- 25:35Speaker 2: the Blade Runner for the one two three. The loss
- 25:37Speaker 2: makes sense for Hangman's character since he's been off his
- 25:40Speaker 2: hinges for most twenty twenty four, and this helps him
- 25:43Speaker 2: continue to spiral. Moving along in aw Dot to tray
- 25:48Speaker 2: your thoughts on this one, as Jy got the victory.
- 25:50Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the match, not as much as Wressel Dream,
- 25:52Speaker 4: but I liked it. I love that they both sold
- 25:54Speaker 4: leg leg injuries, which you don't very see very often.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Is like it's two one legged man in an ass
- 26:00Speaker 4: kicking contest. So it's the but the finish that boot
- 26:04Speaker 4: caught it into the blade Runner was really cleverly done.
- 26:07Speaker 4: I liked it because, you know, with the with the
- 26:09Speaker 4: knee injury, he can't really go for the buck shot,
- 26:11Speaker 4: so he's having to used dead eye and it you know,
- 26:14Speaker 4: three dead eyes can't put away Jay White, but one
- 26:17Speaker 4: blade Runner can put away Hangman Page, So I didn't.
- 26:20Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't as good as Wrestle Dream, but
- 26:21Speaker 4: it was still a pretty solid match. I didn't think
- 26:23Speaker 4: it drugged too much because of they were once again
- 26:26Speaker 4: selling injury. They were actually selling in this match, which
- 26:29Speaker 4: I'll criticize a match later on for not doing it.
- 26:32Speaker 4: But overall I liked it. I just didn't like the
- 26:35Speaker 4: postmatch stuff. I know, Hangman's unhinged, but are you are
- 26:40Speaker 4: you by hitting Jay White momentarily and then Chris ra
- 26:43Speaker 4: Daniel's breaking it up and then hitting Christopher Daniels. Are
- 26:45Speaker 4: we selling this for match seven in their series or
- 26:49Speaker 4: they're going their separate ways?
- 26:50Speaker 1: I was.
- 26:51Speaker 4: I was kind of confused by the postmatch stuff, but
- 26:54Speaker 4: overall like the match itself I thought was was pretty good,
- 26:57Speaker 4: but not as good as wrestled Dream.
- 26:59Speaker 2: And then of course we got all this stuff that
- 27:00Speaker 2: closed out the show in regards to hanging man out
- 27:03Speaker 2: a page and j White, which we will get too
- 27:05Speaker 2: later on here. Next match is Kyle Fletcher defeating will Ospray.
- 27:10Speaker 2: We both had will Ospray in this one. The result
- 27:13Speaker 2: was surprising, the match was great. The sky is officially
- 27:16Speaker 2: the limit for Kyle Fletcher after a huge win over
- 27:18Speaker 2: will Ospray on pay per view. Clearly AW sees a
- 27:21Speaker 2: lot of promise in Fletcher, and rightfully so. This felt
- 27:24Speaker 2: like a case where Osprey wanted to be the guy
- 27:26Speaker 2: to help elevate Fletcher to the next level. I think
- 27:29Speaker 2: AW should really hype up that Fletcher is the next
- 27:31Speaker 2: guy in the lineage of Don Kallis managing wrestlers from
- 27:34Speaker 2: Kenny Omega to will Ospray and now Kyle Fletcher. On
- 27:37Speaker 2: the Will Osprey side of things, I'm disappointing this result
- 27:40Speaker 2: as I want to see Osprey vie for the AW
- 27:42Speaker 2: World Championship, but that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon,
- 27:46Speaker 2: at least in the short term. The only thing I
- 27:48Speaker 2: didn't like was the jumping pile driver onto steel step
- 27:51Speaker 2: spot because that should have ended the match with Osprey
- 27:55Speaker 2: being carried out rather than continuing to wrestle. Either don't
- 27:58Speaker 2: do that spot during the match, and wait until after
- 28:01Speaker 2: the match is over to really capitalize the things and
- 28:03Speaker 2: execute that spot and have Osprey get taken out via ambulance,
- 28:07Speaker 2: or don't do that spot at all, because it made
- 28:09Speaker 2: no sense to me, douch Trey. Osprey should not have
- 28:12Speaker 2: been walking after the tombstone pile driver jumping tombstone pile
- 28:18Speaker 2: driver onto the steel steps on the outside. Your thoughts
- 28:21Speaker 2: on this one is Kyle Fletcher defeats Will Ospray.
- 28:24Speaker 1: So I liked this match if it was a video
- 28:27Speaker 1: game good.
- 28:29Speaker 4: There was just too much stuff and I don't know
- 28:33Speaker 4: none of because you got me like everybody's ready to
- 28:35Speaker 4: talk about the tombstone spot on the stairs. Ospray hit
- 28:38Speaker 4: a tombstone on the floor to Kyle Fletcher, and Kyle
- 28:43Speaker 4: Fletcher is not selling any kind of neck injury the
- 28:47Speaker 4: entire match after that, So I hated that because that's
- 28:51Speaker 4: just what restling is supposed to be. I didn't mind
- 28:56Speaker 4: the jumping tombstone onto the steps.
- 28:58Speaker 1: If you go for the fit right after it.
- 29:01Speaker 4: The fact that the finish came four or five minutes
- 29:04Speaker 4: after that spot didn't make sense. I'm also a little
- 29:08Speaker 4: confused about Kyle Fletcher getting a clean, decisive victory over
- 29:12Speaker 4: will Ospray, Like there was no chack henery, there was
- 29:15Speaker 4: no tricks, there was no Don Challis involvement, there's no screwdriver,
- 29:19Speaker 4: there's no Don Kallis family, nothing like that. It's Kyle
- 29:22Speaker 4: Fletcher beating Will Ospray straight up.
- 29:25Speaker 1: So what do you do with Ospray now?
- 29:27Speaker 4: Like you have to book Kyle Fletcher like he's the
- 29:29Speaker 4: second coming, you know, of the greatest wrestler of all
- 29:33Speaker 4: time in order to re elevate Ospray.
- 29:35Speaker 1: So I'm kind of confused by that.
- 29:37Speaker 4: I don't mind Fletcher getting the win, is just so
- 29:40Speaker 4: clean and so decisive. And then postmatch, you know, once again,
- 29:46Speaker 4: like you said, he's selling this traumatic neck injury from
- 29:50Speaker 4: not only the Tombstone but the top brainbuster, and the
- 29:53Speaker 4: docs aren't in the ring checking his neck to make
- 29:56Speaker 4: sure you can move them. Like if you got a
- 29:58Speaker 4: neck injury, Mark Davis, you're not supposed to pick up
- 30:01Speaker 4: your buddy and try to carry him out. So I mean,
- 30:04Speaker 4: that's literally what we've learned from wrestling commentary for the
- 30:07Speaker 4: last twenty years is you can't move the neck.
- 30:10Speaker 1: You got to stabilize it. You got put the.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Back borderneath there, otherwise you could paralyze your friends. So
- 30:15Speaker 4: maybe Mark Davis is kind of an asshole and he
- 30:17Speaker 4: does have the crappy mustache.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Who knows.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just that was a very disappointing spot,
- 30:22Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people were kind of trash,
- 30:24Speaker 2: and especially after what w WE did recently where Kevin
- 30:28Speaker 2: Owens used a ban move the pile driver on Randy Orton.
- 30:32Speaker 2: So I don't know if it overshadowed the match per se,
- 30:37Speaker 2: but it was definitely a big talking point. Nonetheless, Kyle
- 30:40Speaker 2: Fletcher gets a massive, massive victory over will Ospray and
- 30:44Speaker 2: like you, Doctor Trey, I want to see will Ospray
- 30:46Speaker 2: Viy for the AW World Championship and I don't understand
- 30:49Speaker 2: the delay right now. Again, this goes back to your
- 30:52Speaker 2: point about the tag team wrestlers. It just feels like
- 30:55Speaker 2: w or AW has a wasted opportunity here having will
- 30:58Speaker 2: ost Bran. The roster people were behind them and they
- 31:01Speaker 2: did not put the championship on them, which is something
- 31:03Speaker 2: that they typically did. They would usually immediately strap the
- 31:06Speaker 2: rocket ship to somebody if there's a lot of buzz,
- 31:08Speaker 2: and they got away for that for some reason. Next segment,
- 31:12Speaker 2: here was Maria May and Mina Sherkaga having a champagne
- 31:15Speaker 2: toast for Mariah. Turned on Mina, but Mina walked away,
- 31:17Speaker 2: leaving Mariah. Lane got try any thoughts on that segment
- 31:22Speaker 2: for Mena and Mariah.
- 31:24Speaker 4: Mina is really pretty, but this was just a god
- 31:28Speaker 4: awful segment.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Like, it was so bad.
- 31:32Speaker 4: I mean, it was, Jeff, I've never used this in
- 31:36Speaker 4: the history of doing this show.
- 31:38Speaker 1: It was porno acting bad. That's how bad it was.
- 31:42Speaker 4: I mean, I get it Mina doesn't speak the language
- 31:46Speaker 4: very well, but like, nothing about that said these are
- 31:50Speaker 4: top stars and these are the two women you now
- 31:52Speaker 4: have going for your women's heavyweight championship, like or women's title.
- 31:56Speaker 4: It it was just bad across the board. The only
- 32:01Speaker 4: thing that I thought was kind of cool was Mina
- 32:03Speaker 4: licking Mariah, like after the table spot.
- 32:07Speaker 1: And the blood on there.
- 32:08Speaker 4: Outside of that, everything else was just atrocious.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a good segment at all, not
- 32:14Speaker 2: at all. Next match, here is Daniy Garcia defeating Jack
- 32:18Speaker 2: Perry to win the AWT and T Championship. With both
- 32:21Speaker 2: at Jack Perry and this one, Daniel Garcia winning a
- 32:23Speaker 2: single title and aw is longer for due. I've been
- 32:26Speaker 2: very happy for him. This match had a really good build,
- 32:29Speaker 2: despite me not being the biggest fan of the character
- 32:31Speaker 2: Jack Perry's portraying on television. My only issue here was
- 32:34Speaker 2: they really didn't let Dany Garcia celebrate the title victory
- 32:37Speaker 2: like I thought he should have doctory point out early
- 32:39Speaker 2: in the show, he got one of the biggest pops
- 32:41Speaker 2: of the night. Maybe they were short on time and
- 32:44Speaker 2: need to get through the rest of the card. It
- 32:46Speaker 2: felt like a big celebration should have been taking place,
- 32:49Speaker 2: especially with his mom, and that was a miss moment.
- 32:52Speaker 2: I felt like Daniel Garcia is the new AWT and
- 32:55Speaker 2: T Champion. Doctor Trey.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:58Speaker 4: They were more piled ves on this show than a
- 33:01Speaker 4: Jerry Lawler Memphis event. Like there was like two pile
- 33:04Speaker 4: drivers in this match. We had all the tombstones in
- 33:06Speaker 4: the other matches. I're like, dear guys, like we got
- 33:08Speaker 4: one tombstone in ten years or we got one pile
- 33:11Speaker 4: driver in WWE in like fifteen years and eight was like,
- 33:15Speaker 4: oh my beer, we'll do like five tonight.
- 33:17Speaker 1: So it's just crazy.
- 33:20Speaker 4: But like the postmatch stuff and I'm getting little Jack
- 33:24Speaker 4: Perry stuff here, and just say the postmatch stuff was
- 33:25Speaker 4: weird to because it's like he won the belt and
- 33:27Speaker 4: then I don't know if they told him, hey, we're
- 33:30Speaker 4: short on time, so keep your celebrated short or if
- 33:32Speaker 4: he just did that, because it looked like the ref
- 33:34Speaker 4: kept trying to get him to turn around on the
- 33:37Speaker 4: ramp and he just didn't want to do it. He
- 33:39Speaker 4: just got the belt, did the little stand on the
- 33:41Speaker 4: on the security railing, and then just like left and nothing.
- 33:47Speaker 4: Jack Perry's entrance is fantastic for a guy who doesn't
- 33:51Speaker 4: look like a malnourished raven like, it's just he comes
- 33:56Speaker 4: out like he's Kane and he looks like mini Kane.
- 34:01Speaker 4: It's just I just I don't know. I don't get
- 34:04Speaker 4: the goat head is too big for his body. He
- 34:06Speaker 4: looks like a bobblehead coming down the ramp. And he's
- 34:09Speaker 4: got all this cool music, the cool graphics, the cool fire,
- 34:12Speaker 4: and I'm just like, you're expecting a huge star and
- 34:16Speaker 4: you get a guy who looks like he should be
- 34:19Speaker 4: on the playground, but beating up kids for lunch money.
- 34:23Speaker 4: Like he's just not a big enough guy for that entrance,
- 34:28Speaker 4: Like the Hollywood Jack was a much better fit for
- 34:31Speaker 4: him than this gimmick. And it's just it's so it's
- 34:35Speaker 4: just so bad. It's distracting at times. And you know,
- 34:39Speaker 4: everybody told me what a great restler was. I watched
- 34:40Speaker 4: this match and Garcia's wrestling circles around him in this match,
- 34:44Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't get it.
- 34:46Speaker 1: Does does heat?
- 34:47Speaker 4: Did he get leverage on Tony Kahan to get back
- 34:50Speaker 4: in the good graces ors? I don't know what it is,
- 34:53Speaker 4: but uh, Jack Perry is now my new Sosher Banks.
- 34:56Speaker 4: That's just how I look at it right now.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Yeah, if they did the NEPO baby like rich kid
- 35:02Speaker 2: Jack Perry like that, would people be eating that help
- 35:04Speaker 2: as a heel not. I don't like this malnourished raven
- 35:08Speaker 2: as you said, just.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Just I mean, and he's even doing the arms out thing,
- 35:12Speaker 1: like I guess.
- 35:14Speaker 2: I've always been against it. I mean, I mentioned it
- 35:16Speaker 2: a couple months ago. I think we were covering all
- 35:20Speaker 2: out and I'm like this this character just does not
- 35:22Speaker 2: fit him. I don't believe it at all. No.
- 35:26Speaker 4: I mean, you could be the rich kid and play
- 35:28Speaker 4: like a Menendez brother gimmick and you know, tap into
- 35:32Speaker 4: your Hollywood like your upbringing. But because of that, now
- 35:36Speaker 4: you're being black ball and that. I think you could
- 35:40Speaker 4: combine the two and get a good character out of it.
- 35:42Speaker 4: But this whole like twisted metal type gimmick he's doing
- 35:46Speaker 4: with the bus and the mask and everything else, I'm like,
- 35:51Speaker 4: oh my god, Samoa Joe sign off on this.
- 35:53Speaker 1: I don't I don't get it at all.
- 35:55Speaker 2: And I know he's the scapegoat for cmpunk like leaving
- 35:59Speaker 2: Awn b suspend it, all that shit, But he's not.
- 36:01Speaker 2: He's not a scapegoat like the kid is. Would he
- 36:04Speaker 2: be in this position if his name wasn't last name
- 36:07Speaker 2: wasn't Perry.
- 36:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he would have, because I mean he
- 36:10Speaker 4: got over on the indies with people only kind of
- 36:13Speaker 4: knowing that he was the son of Luke Perry because
- 36:15Speaker 4: he didn't really advertise it was.
- 36:16Speaker 1: I blame JR.
- 36:18Speaker 4: For all the Jack Perry stuff because JR hyped it
- 36:20Speaker 4: up because JR knows, Hey, we can get this kid
- 36:23Speaker 4: over by his lineage, because hell he did in WWE
- 36:27Speaker 4: for years and just give him a decent gimmick and
- 36:30Speaker 4: then like, just right now, this gimmick doesn't It's almost
- 36:34Speaker 4: as bad as Chavo Guer being Kerwin White.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I would almost say it's as bad as Nicholas
- 36:40Speaker 2: and Matthew Jackson's. Well, I'm not a big fan of
- 36:42Speaker 2: that Young Bucks gimmick. As the EVPs, it's almost like
- 36:45Speaker 2: they've they've gone too far up to eleven and cranked
- 36:49Speaker 2: it up there. But this, this, to me, the Jack
- 36:52Speaker 2: Perry character is the out of all the professional wrestling
- 36:58Speaker 2: This one does not fit person at all.
- 37:01Speaker 4: This is the ultimate indie gimmick because on the indies,
- 37:04Speaker 4: little guys always want to act like they're big, tough guys,
- 37:07Speaker 4: and the big guys want to do lucha moves. This
- 37:09Speaker 4: is like, I remember when I first broke into the business,
- 37:12Speaker 4: I saw a guy, Jack Perry size telling me his
- 37:14Speaker 4: finisher was an attitude adjustment at an F five, and
- 37:18Speaker 4: I was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
- 37:20Speaker 4: And I lived at the time. I live in Alabama,
- 37:23Speaker 4: so I've heard a lot of dumb stuff. But this
- 37:25Speaker 4: is what indie guys do. They try to act like
- 37:27Speaker 4: there's somebody completely different from what the fans see them as,
- 37:32Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, is Jack Perry and ahole and
- 37:34Speaker 4: give be escapegoat for stuff?
- 37:36Speaker 1: Absolutely, but he is not like was the what was
- 37:41Speaker 1: the bludgeon brother?
- 37:42Speaker 4: He's not a bludgeon brother for crying out out stop it.
- 37:45Speaker 1: It's just just bad.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Next mon years, can I also hit Takashka defeating Ricochet
- 37:50Speaker 2: to retain the AW International Championship. We did not predict
- 37:53Speaker 2: this one, as was announced after we recorded last week's show.
- 37:56Speaker 2: A lot of near falls in this one. I like
- 38:00Speaker 2: seeming takash could get some wins under his belt and
- 38:01Speaker 2: continue to grow as a star in AW, but I
- 38:04Speaker 2: also don't like seeing it at the expense of Ricochet,
- 38:06Speaker 2: who has had an underwhelming start in AW thus far.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Has anything really changed for Ricochet since leaving w WE
- 38:14Speaker 2: other than a really bad catchphrase like Ricochet is out
- 38:17Speaker 2: of this world? Doctor Trey, what say you?
- 38:21Speaker 1: That's so bad?
- 38:22Speaker 2: It's terrible.
- 38:23Speaker 1: It's so bad. I mean your name's by the way.
- 38:27Speaker 4: I was listening to a couple of podcasts in the
- 38:29Speaker 4: last couple weeks, and I love when people call it
- 38:31Speaker 4: it was otis I heard Otis on the Chris Van
- 38:33Speaker 4: Ballet Show and he kept calling Ricochet Ricky.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves it. He calls him pretty Ricky.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Pretty Ricky. I love it, And that was always the joke.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Have you ever went irish?
- 38:41Speaker 4: He used to be rick Okay, But to me, it's
- 38:45Speaker 4: one of the things like you have a pay per
- 38:47Speaker 4: view and your two biggest signings of two or your
- 38:51Speaker 4: three biggest signings in twenty twenty five probably are Osprey,
- 38:55Speaker 4: Gocatta and Ricochet once not on the show and touring losses,
- 39:00Speaker 4: and you really haven't elevated anybody any higher than they
- 39:04Speaker 4: were when they came into the company.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Like we literally say, this is a.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Chance for Ricochet to get a big breakout, aw to
- 39:10Speaker 4: show the world we can do. He's showing the world
- 39:13Speaker 4: exactly what he did in WWE for six years, seven years,
- 39:16Speaker 4: Like nothing's changed, And yeah, you're probably getting a better
- 39:19Speaker 4: payday and you're getting more time off than you were previously,
- 39:22Speaker 4: but really, at the end of the day, you're not
- 39:25Speaker 4: any higher on the food chain. But I love Takeshka
- 39:27Speaker 4: and I love that they're trying to create some of
- 39:29Speaker 4: their own stars. But at the same time, like you
- 39:32Speaker 4: got fifteen titles on your show, and right now you
- 39:36Speaker 4: don't have.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Ospreaders to have a title.
- 39:37Speaker 4: Ricochet doesn't have the title, like the Malachi Black and
- 39:41Speaker 4: Brodie King don't have Like there's a lot of guys
- 39:43Speaker 4: that should be champions in this company who are suffering
- 39:47Speaker 4: for the sake of trying to build up guys like
- 39:48Speaker 4: Jack Perry.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not been a good run so far for
- 39:55Speaker 2: Rickochet in AW.
- 39:57Speaker 1: That's good. I like the match, by the way, I
- 39:58Speaker 1: just want to say, ID enjoy the match. I love Takeshka,
- 40:01Speaker 1: I love don Kallis. I like Ricochet a lot. This
- 40:04Speaker 1: is a really fun match. It's just the booking of
- 40:07Speaker 1: some of these guys makes zero sense.
- 40:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. It's just I don't know. Ricochet
- 40:12Speaker 2: comes over to AW and it's like nothing's changed other
- 40:14Speaker 2: than a shitty catchphrase, Like it's like, how's that happen? Meanwhile,
- 40:19Speaker 2: other people, like the next match here are booked extremely well,
- 40:22Speaker 2: which is Bobby Lashley defeating Swerve Strickland, and we both
- 40:25Speaker 2: had Bobby Lashley this one. I think letting Bobby Lashley
- 40:28Speaker 2: MVP and Shelton Bedmin walk from w and not reforming
- 40:31Speaker 2: the hert business slash syndicate at some point maybe one
- 40:34Speaker 2: of Triple H's biggest mistakes after taking over Creative. So far,
- 40:38Speaker 2: Lashley is super over with the fans despite being a heel,
- 40:41Speaker 2: and I hope his career continues to send an AW.
- 40:43Speaker 2: I'm a fan of big Bobby defeating the top established
- 40:46Speaker 2: awstr likes swerve of Strickland in your AW pay per
- 40:48Speaker 2: view debut is the way you introduce a big name
- 40:50Speaker 2: into your promotion, Doctor stre We just talked about Ricochet
- 40:54Speaker 2: and his underwhelming start. Bobby Lashley starting out of the
- 40:57Speaker 2: gate with a huge victory over one of the biggest
- 40:59Speaker 2: names aw in s Strickland. Your thoughts on.
- 41:02Speaker 4: This one, Yeah, and you know, like this was a
- 41:05Speaker 4: really good match. I really enjoyed it. It's both these
- 41:09Speaker 4: guys are favorites of mine. It is good, Like I
- 41:15Speaker 4: I wish there was The short builds are fine, but
- 41:22Speaker 4: like I'm really trying to establish Bobby Lashley. I want
- 41:25Speaker 4: some I want some swerve hangman animosity leading into this
- 41:29Speaker 4: first match. I want to make it feel like a
- 41:31Speaker 4: big fight. And it felt like a good fight. It
- 41:34Speaker 4: just didn't feel like it didn't feel like a main
- 41:37Speaker 4: event caliber.
- 41:37Speaker 1: Match, which is what this should be.
- 41:39Speaker 4: So that was on this point, but the match itself
- 41:42Speaker 4: was good, and you're right, I mean, right now, could
- 41:45Speaker 4: you imagine Hurt Business going up against the Wyat six
- 41:48Speaker 4: once they're done with you know, Final Testament, and and
- 41:52Speaker 4: the fact that Bobby was scheduled to be Bray White's
- 41:55Speaker 4: next opponent when bray got sick, and like how good
- 41:58Speaker 4: that would be. Like they're so much storytelling involved in
- 42:01Speaker 4: that that just almost rites hisself.
- 42:04Speaker 1: But yeah, it sucks, We're not gonna get that.
- 42:06Speaker 4: But look, this is a chance for Bobby Lashley Shell
- 42:09Speaker 4: and Benjamin MVP and whoever else they bring in to
- 42:13Speaker 4: show the world what they're capable of, because WWW did
- 42:16Speaker 4: drop the ball with these guys, you know, at the
- 42:19Speaker 4: end of their run, and that's Bobby that should be
- 42:21Speaker 4: a multi time champion. Still does not feel like he
- 42:24Speaker 4: got the credit or the respect he deserved from his
- 42:27Speaker 4: time in WWE.
- 42:28Speaker 2: I totally agree. I can't believe they let him walk.
- 42:31Speaker 2: I really thought he was one of the top guys
- 42:34Speaker 2: in the company. He was one of the top guys
- 42:36Speaker 2: in the company, and he may have been somebody that
- 42:38Speaker 2: Vince liked a little bit more than triple h But
- 42:41Speaker 2: it's like people loved Bobby Lashley when they tried to
- 42:45Speaker 2: make the Pride in w WE heel it did not work.
- 42:48Speaker 2: People were chairing him in the street profits on, and
- 42:50Speaker 2: then here he is an AW when he's getting the
- 42:52Speaker 2: same reaction. People love Bobby Lashley, and I can't believe
- 42:55Speaker 2: they let them walk The main event here doctor Trey
- 43:00Speaker 2: John Moxley defeating Orange Cassidy'd retain the AW World Championship.
- 43:03Speaker 2: We've both had mox in this one. I thought the
- 43:05Speaker 2: build up for this match was good until I watched
- 43:08Speaker 2: the countdown of Full Gear Special where they mentioned basically
- 43:11Speaker 2: all the top stars are tied up with other stuff
- 43:14Speaker 2: rather than defending AW from the death Riders, so Orange
- 43:18Speaker 2: cast seed it is. I could not believe that was
- 43:21Speaker 2: the reason why why they put that in there in
- 43:24Speaker 2: that show. I was like shocked with it. They were
- 43:26Speaker 2: like Osprey, Swerve and Hanging Manner. They're all j white,
- 43:29Speaker 2: They're involved with other stuff. So I guess Orange Cassidy works.
- 43:33Speaker 2: The death Rider's angle has been kind of boring and
- 43:36Speaker 2: need some more to it, which we may be getting
- 43:38Speaker 2: from the ending of Full Gear. As Hangman page Christian Cage,
- 43:42Speaker 2: Jay White, and Darby Allen all got involved to close
- 43:45Speaker 2: the show, which once again I thought was a disservice
- 43:48Speaker 2: to Orange Cassidy. He was basically an afterthought. Shortly after
- 43:52Speaker 2: the match, Doctor Trey, I did not love the match.
- 43:55Speaker 2: I did not love what they did to Orange Cassidy.
- 43:58Speaker 2: Your thoughts here is mox retains.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Their match a year ago is better.
- 44:03Speaker 4: This match was lackluster at best, especially on the heels
- 44:07Speaker 4: of Lashley and Swerve, Like that match was better than
- 44:10Speaker 4: this one. And this is your main event. And this
- 44:14Speaker 4: is also why I figure out Tony why Tony Kahn
- 44:16Speaker 4: has not blocked me on Twitter or on Hex or
- 44:19Speaker 4: anything like that, because listen is the freaking show, Jeff,
- 44:22Speaker 4: because some of the stuff that we say.
- 44:24Speaker 1: I literally said that verbatim a couple.
- 44:26Speaker 4: Of weeks ago, which was I'm a little I'm a
- 44:29Speaker 4: little bummed that's Orange, because I mean, you got all
- 44:31Speaker 4: these other guys who are probably bigger stars, but these
- 44:34Speaker 4: guys are trying to take over your company, and it's
- 44:36Speaker 4: Orange to the rescue. And Darby, Now, mind you, Darby,
- 44:39Speaker 4: who three months ago lost a casket match to Jack Perry,
- 44:44Speaker 4: is your next saving grace, Like I get it, you're
- 44:47Speaker 4: trying to build some guys out of this, but I mean,
- 44:51Speaker 4: I mean Jack, I mean Darby Allen crashed a car
- 44:54Speaker 4: into nothing. You have a guy who's crashing a car
- 44:57Speaker 4: and apparently no stunt double in this. He's crashing a
- 45:01Speaker 4: car for the sake of your company. But it's like
- 45:04Speaker 4: it just doesn't feel right. And then you got Christian Cage,
- 45:07Speaker 4: who's the most despicable character in all of AW and
- 45:11Speaker 4: he's out there like maybe trying to cash in, maybe not.
- 45:16Speaker 4: And I don't understand the contract because apparently there has
- 45:19Speaker 4: to be a signature is involved in this thing. Like
- 45:21Speaker 4: I'm completely confused by how that contract works, how this
- 45:26Speaker 4: whole thing plays out. Why Hangman's out there because Hangman
- 45:31Speaker 4: is kind of friend with with the Bucks.
- 45:32Speaker 1: And they left.
- 45:33Speaker 4: I don't really It's it's all over the place and
- 45:37Speaker 4: nothing is sticking. And that's what worries me about this
- 45:40Speaker 4: whole angle is because this could be and should be
- 45:44Speaker 4: the biggest thing going on in AW, which is why
- 45:46Speaker 4: is the main event. And I was more into Swerving Lashly,
- 45:51Speaker 4: I mean I was more into hate say, I was
- 45:54Speaker 4: more into Mercedes and Statlander than I was this match
- 45:57Speaker 4: it just did not have I never felt like mox
- 46:01Speaker 4: was in danger of losing his title on this show,
- 46:05Speaker 4: and that is a disservice to Orange Cassidy in your
- 46:08Speaker 4: main event.
- 46:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the clothes was fine, the Darby stuff
- 46:13Speaker 2: we talked about in the last week's show too. He
- 46:14Speaker 2: gets his ass kicked by Claudio Casa and Noli headed
- 46:17Speaker 2: into the pay per view, So like, why would I
- 46:18Speaker 2: think he can defend aw's honor to John Moxley. It's
- 46:25Speaker 2: I don't know. The booking is so freaking bad at times,
- 46:28Speaker 2: and this is a case of it. It's just the
- 46:30Speaker 2: death writer's angle. I'm watching the match, I'm watching the
- 46:33Speaker 2: end of the show into the show kind of like
- 46:35Speaker 2: got me interested, but I'm like, man.
- 46:37Speaker 1: This angle is bad.
- 46:38Speaker 2: It's boring. The death Writers are coming off is very
- 46:43Speaker 2: boring on television right now. There's nothing about them or
- 46:47Speaker 2: the Moxley character presently that I'm like interested in. And
- 46:50Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of mox I'm a huge fan
- 46:52Speaker 2: of Pak and Wheeler, Juda and Claudio Marina Shafirra all
- 46:56Speaker 2: of a sudden, randomly speaking Russian, not a big fan
- 46:58Speaker 2: of but writers like these are guys that I like,
- 47:02Speaker 2: and they have found a way to make them incredibly
- 47:04Speaker 2: boring for me and just it's not enjoyable. They got
- 47:09Speaker 2: to do something here to make this very interesting soon,
- 47:12Speaker 2: doctor try.
- 47:13Speaker 4: The way to make this work is I hate to
- 47:15Speaker 4: say this because both the wrestling fans will get mad
- 47:17Speaker 4: at me, is literally go watch nineteen ninety four ninety
- 47:22Speaker 4: five WCW. With the nWo, the fact that they need
- 47:25Speaker 4: to be attacking everybody. You need your attacks need to
- 47:29Speaker 4: form allegiances against you, you know, And honestly, once they
- 47:34Speaker 4: start doing that, they need to add a couple of
- 47:35Speaker 4: people into the mix. They need to add a couple
- 47:38Speaker 4: more people onto the Death Writers because right now, like
- 47:41Speaker 4: you should feel like with a name for one with
- 47:44Speaker 4: a name like the Death Writers and you have the
- 47:45Speaker 4: world title in your hands, you need to have your
- 47:48Speaker 4: group feel like oncoming doom. Like if you remember back
- 47:52Speaker 4: when the nWo launched and you start seeing those attacks
- 47:55Speaker 4: and then Hogan joined, and then you just kind of
- 47:57Speaker 4: felt like this wave and who's going to stay end
- 48:00Speaker 4: up against this way that's about to come crashing down
- 48:03Speaker 4: on the entire company.
- 48:04Speaker 1: That's how you need to set this up.
- 48:06Speaker 4: You need to set it up to make it feel
- 48:07Speaker 4: like the death writers are the biggest risk to the
- 48:10Speaker 4: sanctity of AEW and right now they feel like the
- 48:14Speaker 4: biggest threat.
- 48:14Speaker 1: To the mid cart of AAW.
- 48:16Speaker 4: And that's a disservice to everybody involved because this should
- 48:20Speaker 4: be your biggest storyline in your biggest bills. So you
- 48:23Speaker 4: need to start getting your bigger stars involved. Like you remember,
- 48:26Speaker 4: early on the NBO it was like, who's going to
- 48:28Speaker 4: stand up against them? And you know, and in to
- 48:30Speaker 4: being sting and Luger, and even then at times you
- 48:33Speaker 4: felt like that it doesn't match up. But it also
- 48:36Speaker 4: goes back that you don't want two guys holding off
- 48:37Speaker 4: your entire roster like halla Ashton on one episode. But
- 48:41Speaker 4: you need this group to feel like they're coming in
- 48:44Speaker 4: to take out everybody, and it doesn't feel like that yet.
- 48:48Speaker 1: And that's kind of what's lacking in this angle.
- 48:50Speaker 4: They need to feel like they're a threat to ae
- 48:54Speaker 4: W and right now they just don't feel like that.
- 48:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other stuff too, is you know, it's
- 49:01Speaker 2: like this is their vision of AW. Then Big Boom
- 49:04Speaker 2: a JSON the pre show, it's like, okay, so this
- 49:07Speaker 2: is your vision for AW. Yeah, you know, it makes
- 49:12Speaker 2: sense in.
- 49:14Speaker 1: Yeah, John Moxy has a death rider on the Wrizzler.
- 49:17Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. He just says some random, weird promo that's
- 49:21Speaker 2: hard to follow, and the Wrizzler just does the Wrizzler
- 49:23Speaker 2: face in his face. So and then and then the
- 49:27Speaker 2: Wrizzler and Poker eyed Eye and battle in and out
- 49:30Speaker 2: all in one shot. It's it's it was weird, very
- 49:33Speaker 2: very weird. Nonetheless, let's match the night vent rating. I'll
- 49:38Speaker 2: start here, doctor Trey. I gave aw Full Gear a
- 49:42Speaker 2: three point four out of five, and my match the
- 49:45Speaker 2: night was Mercedes Money and Chris Statlander.
- 49:47Speaker 1: What say you okay?
- 49:49Speaker 2: This?
- 49:49Speaker 1: By the way, guys, this was not rahears.
- 49:50Speaker 4: I had a three point four also, uh and my imagine,
- 49:53Speaker 4: I just purely out of the fact that I could
- 49:57Speaker 4: never give Mercedes Money. The match of the night was
- 49:59Speaker 4: lastly in so last year's Serve match night, Mercedes in
- 50:03Speaker 4: stat later on and Aussie was basically an equal match
- 50:07Speaker 4: to me those two, so I just I gave it
- 50:09Speaker 4: to Swerve. And lastly, just because I still Mercedes Money
- 50:13Speaker 4: hasn't won me over yet to actually say that ever
- 50:15Speaker 4: about her.
- 50:16Speaker 2: All right, doctor Trey. So there you go, A w
- 50:18Speaker 2: full gears in the books and let's start to prepredict
- 50:21Speaker 2: w Survivor Series war games. It comes to us this
- 50:24Speaker 2: Saturday from the Rogers Arena in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
- 50:28Speaker 2: The first match on the card here is La Night.
- 50:30Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I didn't even do the pay per
- 50:31Speaker 2: view prediction record, so both of us were six and
- 50:34Speaker 2: three coming out of this pay per view. I'm one
- 50:37Speaker 2: thirty nine and thirty nine. Doctor Trey's one twenty six
- 50:39Speaker 2: to fifty two. Now to Survivor Series. La Night versus
- 50:43Speaker 2: Shinsk for the w W United States Championship. The returning
- 50:46Speaker 2: Chitinsk happy to see him back, but I'm gonna take
- 50:49Speaker 2: La Night in this one, Doctor Trey.
- 50:51Speaker 4: Man, I really want to keep I really want to
- 50:53Speaker 4: take shins K, but I don't think they've built this
- 50:55Speaker 4: up enough, and plus he keeps getting the upper hands,
- 50:57Speaker 4: so I'm gonna take La Knights to retain as well.
- 51:00Speaker 2: X match is bron Breaker defending the Intercontinental Championship in
- 51:03Speaker 2: a triple threat match against Seamus and Ludwig Kaiser. I
- 51:07Speaker 2: actually there's gonna be a title change here, and I'm
- 51:09Speaker 2: going to go with Seamus. Finally completing the Grand Slam
- 51:12Speaker 2: of becoming an Intercontinental champion.
- 51:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of feels like Bron's the guy they're
- 51:18Speaker 4: going to kind of hot shot the title on and
- 51:20Speaker 4: off for a little bit, like he'll lose it, get
- 51:23Speaker 4: it back, lose it, get it back. He might get
- 51:25Speaker 4: five reigns within a year with this interconnent title. But
- 51:28Speaker 4: I was doing the same thing, like, if you're gonna
- 51:30Speaker 4: ever pull the trigger on Seamus getting the Grand Slam,
- 51:32Speaker 4: it's gonna be now.
- 51:33Speaker 1: And he's lost the way, he looks way better than
- 51:35Speaker 1: he did when he came back.
- 51:36Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give Seamus getting the win by taking
- 51:40Speaker 4: out Kaiser and then setting up breaker seamous rematch.
- 51:43Speaker 2: At Royal Rumble, Gunner defends the World have Aweight Championship
- 51:47Speaker 2: against Damian Priest. I am going to take guntherro in
- 51:50Speaker 2: this one, Doctor Trey.
- 51:51Speaker 1: You know it's funny.
- 51:52Speaker 4: I was on another podcast earlier this week and there's
- 51:57Speaker 4: four people in the show and two of them took
- 51:58Speaker 4: Damian Priest and the other two to Gunther. So I
- 52:02Speaker 4: still feel like they have Goldberg in the can for
- 52:05Speaker 4: Gunther and I still say Johnsena and Gunther at WrestleMania
- 52:08Speaker 4: is a great match to go to if you want
- 52:10Speaker 4: to get that Ivan Drago Rocky kind of feel. So
- 52:13Speaker 4: I'm taking Gunther to Retain to possibly set those two
- 52:16Speaker 4: matches up.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Do Trent, do you want to promote this show that
- 52:18Speaker 2: people go out can go out and listen to them.
- 52:20Speaker 1: I'll save it for the close also spots at the end.
- 52:24Speaker 2: Next match year is Ria Ripley, Bianca Bella, are Naomi Eo,
- 52:27Speaker 2: Sky and Bailey replacing the injured the real really injured,
- 52:31Speaker 2: uh Jade Cargill against liv Morgan, rock Cal Rodriguez, Nijack,
- 52:35Speaker 2: Tiffany Stratton, cannicel Right. In a women's wargame match, I'm
- 52:39Speaker 2: gonna go with Ria, Bianca, Naomi Eo and Bailey Doctor
- 52:42Speaker 2: Trey Oh good.
- 52:43Speaker 4: We get to disagree on one, so I'm taking Live,
- 52:46Speaker 4: Nya Tiffany because uh, it just feels like I said
- 52:49Speaker 4: their show like, it feels like NYA and Live are
- 52:52Speaker 4: placeholders for their titles, so they need a big win.
- 52:55Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take them getting the win in Survivor series.
- 52:58Speaker 2: And then the men's wargame actually got Roman Range, ja Uso,
- 53:01Speaker 2: Jimmy Usso, Sammy Zain and the Fifth Man Ce m
- 53:05Speaker 2: Punk taking on Solo so CoA, Jacob Fatou, Tomatung Ktungalow,
- 53:09Speaker 2: and Broughton Red in a men's wargame match. Doc Trey,
- 53:12Speaker 2: I'm going to take the OG bloodline and see him Punk.
- 53:15Speaker 4: Yeah, that's with another match that we talked about on
- 53:18Speaker 4: that show, and I'm taking the OG bloodline as well.
- 53:20Speaker 4: I think you can't put rains in Punk on the
- 53:23Speaker 4: same team and have them lose. But I do think
- 53:25Speaker 4: that there will be a post match beat down and
- 53:28Speaker 4: possibly the reveal of some New Bloodline new members and
- 53:31Speaker 4: possibly do you think we see the final Boss at
- 53:34Speaker 4: Survivor series.
- 53:35Speaker 2: I think he may be there. I think he may
- 53:37Speaker 2: be there, So I kind of.
- 53:39Speaker 4: Feel like this is where the reveal comes that he's
- 53:42Speaker 4: in charge of the New Bloodline to start setting up
- 53:45Speaker 4: Solo and Roman and then eventually Rock and Roman. So
- 53:48Speaker 4: that's I kind of feel like we're gonna get that reveal.
- 53:49Speaker 4: Suit It may not happen at this show, but it
- 53:52Speaker 4: might happen right after Unraw. I just feel like it's
- 53:54Speaker 4: coming soon to start setting up for Rumble.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Not sure one we're gonna be able to talk about this,
- 53:59Speaker 2: but the CM Punk I loved the booking on this
- 54:02Speaker 2: Doctor Trey because it makes so much sense. Because Seth
- 54:06Speaker 2: Ronds wants Bronson Reid Punk. He is going to enter
- 54:09Speaker 2: this match and supersede Seth Ronalds, who could have potentially
- 54:12Speaker 2: taken the spot. He said he wanted to take the
- 54:14Speaker 2: spot even though he wants Bronson. Reid Punk will be
- 54:16Speaker 2: in the cage with Bronson and then the other members
- 54:18Speaker 2: of the Bloodline. He is defending Paul Hayman's honor in this,
- 54:22Speaker 2: which makes a ton of sense. I thought this was
- 54:25Speaker 2: really good, creative, smart booking.
- 54:27Speaker 4: Oh, it was fantastic because this is that long term
- 54:30Speaker 4: storytelling we talked about in WDB where they do stuff
- 54:34Speaker 4: four or five months ago and it doesn't make sense
- 54:36Speaker 4: to us, like why'd that happen? And then it makes
- 54:37Speaker 4: sense later on if you go back to that CM
- 54:41Speaker 4: Punk in Chicago, Solo comes out to make him acknowledge him,
- 54:44Speaker 4: but Paul's in the ring and he's like, Paul, what
- 54:46Speaker 4: do you want?
- 54:47Speaker 1: He's like, take me with you. Oh, that was so good.
- 54:49Speaker 4: And then Paul Hayman wearing almost the exact same outfits
- 54:53Speaker 4: Solo was wearing when they put him through the table,
- 54:55Speaker 4: like such good little intricacies in the storytelling and all this.
- 54:59Speaker 4: I I'm actually this, this actually got me e cyper
- 55:02Speaker 4: Survivors because I wasn't. I mean, I was kind of
- 55:03Speaker 4: feeling it, but I need to see the fifth member
- 55:06Speaker 4: was this has got me kind of feeling the Survivor series.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really really good booking. Talking of cmpunk,
- 55:14Speaker 2: Doctor Trey, it is now one year later of cm
- 55:18Speaker 2: punk and w w WW has released a very very
- 55:21Speaker 2: fun less than ten minutes documentary on YouTube that I
- 55:23Speaker 2: highly recommend everybody checking out with the return of cmpunk
- 55:27Speaker 2: behind the scenes in w WI Whinning Returns Survivers series
- 55:30Speaker 2: last year. Here we are one year later. What do
- 55:34Speaker 2: you think so far of Cmpunk's first year back in
- 55:37Speaker 2: World Wrestling Entertainment.
- 55:39Speaker 1: I think it's been good. It's not great, but it's
- 55:42Speaker 1: been a good. Part of that was the injury.
- 55:44Speaker 4: The injury kept them out for a little while, but
- 55:46Speaker 4: they were able to keep some storytelling going and keep
- 55:50Speaker 4: them to keep the fans engaged in this whole thing.
- 55:53Speaker 4: He's been on his best behavior. We haven't heard of
- 55:55Speaker 4: anybody any complaints. We haven't heard of any you know,
- 55:58Speaker 4: backstage rifts. He seems like he's having fun. They're using
- 56:01Speaker 4: him in good spots. And here's the crazy thing, Jeff,
- 56:04Speaker 4: it's been a year and Cody, I mean we see him.
- 56:08Speaker 4: Punk has not faced Seth or Cody in this entire time,
- 56:12Speaker 4: and those are two people that we thought he was
- 56:14Speaker 4: definitely gonna face when he came back. He hasn't fought
- 56:16Speaker 4: Cody or Seth, and he's teaming with Roman Reigns. So
- 56:21Speaker 4: it's crazy how this year's played out. It's basically him
- 56:24Speaker 4: and Drew McIntyre and that's it. But don't forget he
- 56:27Speaker 4: had the interaction with with Gunther, so that's still in
- 56:30Speaker 4: the pipeline. The face to face with the Roman coming
- 56:33Speaker 4: up this Friday on Smackdowns on the pipeline. So the
- 56:36Speaker 4: year one's been good, but man, year two can be fantastic.
- 56:41Speaker 2: Punk was injured for about seven months this year and
- 56:44Speaker 2: it never felt like it, Doctor Try. That's what's crazy.
- 56:48Speaker 2: He may have one of the best feuds of this
- 56:51Speaker 2: year with Drew McIntyre. Like you said, you would have
- 56:54Speaker 2: figured by this point he would have a match with Seth,
- 56:57Speaker 2: Rahm's Cody Rhodes, Roman Rains, Damien Pray's Gunther, whomever. He
- 57:02Speaker 2: hasn't basically his only matches with Drew McIntyre and now
- 57:06Speaker 2: he's seen him with the LG Bloodline to defend Paul
- 57:09Speaker 2: Hayman's honor. He looks revitalized, he looks refreshed, he looks
- 57:14Speaker 2: like he's having fun. I think everybody went into this
- 57:17Speaker 2: with optimism and pessimism as well, potentially of him returning
- 57:21Speaker 2: to w WII and working with Triple H again. So far,
- 57:25Speaker 2: so good, Doc Tray, and I hope it continues that
- 57:27Speaker 2: way because the people that are benefiting from it are us. Yeah.
- 57:31Speaker 4: I mean, he spent all that time and Drew McIntyre
- 57:33Speaker 4: over a bracelet, and now he's jumping into the bloodline
- 57:36Speaker 4: feed over a necklace. So apparently every kiss begins with
- 57:40Speaker 4: CM punk Yeah.
- 57:41Speaker 2: No, it is the Christmas season, so maybe he has
- 57:43Speaker 2: some Black Friday deals that he has a zion and
- 57:46Speaker 2: he needs to get that stuff back for a j Lee.
- 57:49Speaker 2: Let's wrap up the show here, Doctor Trey with of
- 57:53Speaker 2: course it is Thanksgiving. What is the one thing we
- 57:57Speaker 2: are thankful for in professional wrestling?
- 57:59Speaker 1: Right now?
- 58:00Speaker 2: Now? I start with you, Doctor Trey.
- 58:01Speaker 4: Oh, what am I thankful in professional wrestling? That we
- 58:05Speaker 4: have two shows that combined or We have two brands
- 58:09Speaker 4: that combined give you everything in the world of wrestling
- 58:12Speaker 4: you can possibly want. You have one show that has
- 58:15Speaker 4: really good matches and some great storytelling. You have another
- 58:18Speaker 4: show that has storytelling but some fantastic matches. There really
- 58:24Speaker 4: isn't a whole lot if you look at the grand
- 58:27Speaker 4: scheme of wrestling where we're at in.
- 58:29Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four heading into twenty.
- 58:30Speaker 4: Twenty five, that you can really complain about, especially compared
- 58:34Speaker 4: to some of the years past that we've been covering
- 58:36Speaker 4: the show. Wrestling's in a really, really good spot. It's
- 58:40Speaker 4: getting notoriety, it's getting public buzz. This has been the
- 58:44Speaker 4: most fun in wrestling I have had in probably ten
- 58:47Speaker 4: years at least. So I'm just happy for the health
- 58:52Speaker 4: of professional wrestling right now.
- 58:54Speaker 2: Doctor Trey mentioned early on, we did not plan these things.
- 58:57Speaker 2: Doctor Trey did not know I was going to ask
- 58:59Speaker 2: this question until I literally asked it. And my one
- 59:02Speaker 2: thing is very similar to yours, and it's just the
- 59:04Speaker 2: overall it's the health of profession wrestler right now. It's
- 59:07Speaker 2: in a very very good spot. It's a lot of
- 59:10Speaker 2: things that you just said. We've been doing this podcast
- 59:14Speaker 2: in February We'll have been doing this podcast now for
- 59:16Speaker 2: fifteen years, doctor Trey full time for thirteen, but he
- 59:20Speaker 2: has been part of it since like the first I
- 59:23Speaker 2: think he was in the first ten episodes of SRTU.
- 59:26Speaker 2: So for fifteen years we've been covering wrestling here in
- 59:29Speaker 2: SRTU nearly and this has been one of the most
- 59:33Speaker 2: fun times I've ever had. I mean, WWE is really
- 59:37Speaker 2: good right now. Aw has a lot to work on,
- 59:42Speaker 2: but we know it can be good based on things
- 59:44Speaker 2: that they've done in the past. People are entertained by wrestling.
- 59:48Speaker 2: People are having fun watching wrestling, people are going out
- 59:50Speaker 2: to shows for wrestling, people are talking about wrestling. You
- 59:54Speaker 2: see wrestling back out there. I always refer back to
- 59:57Speaker 2: the golden era of my time in my lifetime wrestling
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: fan was the late nineties. It's very similar to that.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: I don't think it's fully there yet, but it's a
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: time where people are paying attention to what's going on.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: And twenty twenty four, when I look back at it,
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: for professional wrestling, maybe one of the most fun years
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: we've ever had covering it because a lot of twists
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: and turns, a lot of things they could have crashed
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: and burned and they didn't. And you know, in the
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: instance Seth, the Seth Rollins, Cody Roads, Robin Rains Rock
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: storyline heading in the Wrestlemaning could have kept crash and
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: burned severely, and WA did a complete one eighty reverse course,
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: salvaged it and probably made it better than what was
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: originally planned and made it extremely entertaining and fun to
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: watch as if you were at home. It's just fun
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: right now. It's a fun time to be a wrestling fan.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: And that is what I'm most thankful for. And I'm
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: thankful that we still get to do this stuff and
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: still have fun talking wrestling each and every week, and
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: thankful that we get an opportunity for fourteen years to
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: sit here on Thanksgiving and top professional wrestling and have
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: folks around the world download the show on a holiday
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: to get away from people for a little bit, some
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: family for a little bit. Let me pop in Doctor
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Train and Jeff Peck for over an hour talk of
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: professional wrestling. Listen to these guys just kind of shoot
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: the breeze about everything that they like dislike about professional wrestling.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: So thanks for everybody who has supported the show over
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: the years, and thank you for downloading as always, and
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: feel free to feel free to chime in for what
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: you were most thankful for in regards to professional wrestling
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: at SRTU podcast on xoor, Facebook dot com slash the
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: Still Real to Us Show. The last thing I'll bring
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: up here is our holiday programming schedule has been released.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: It all begins on episode number seven hundred and seventy
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: five on December nineteenth, twenty twenty four, so it's about
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: three episodes from now, folks, and that will be our
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: twenty twenty four wrestling recap special. On episode number seven
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six on December twenty six, twenty twenty four,
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: will be our twenty twenty four SRTU Award Show Special,
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: and then we kick off the new year on jan
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: Nuary second, twenty twenty five, with episode number seven hundred
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: and seventy seven with our twenty twenty five wrestling Preview special.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: We'll probably sprinkle in some stuff for aw World's end
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: and potentially we Saturday Night's main event. But this is
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: the time to hear that Doctor Trey and I usually
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: like to check out for a little bit and regroup
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: and get you ready for the new year, because the
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: road to WrestleMania forty two is upon us, which is
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: just wild to think. Excuse me, WrestleMania forty one is
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: upon us. With that said, let's get a couple of
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- 1:02:52Speaker 2: at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is going
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: on in the one for world of dot Trey Franklin
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: this week?
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: Well, like Jeff said, you follow me on X at
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Facebook and
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: Instagram Doctor Trey Franklin.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: When you're on.
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: Facebook, obviously go check out Rockets Sage Championship Wrestling as
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: we are getting closer and closer to the nine year
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: anniversary show for Rocket ste Championship Wrestling, and then shortly
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: after that is the Rocket City Rumble, which is my
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: favorite event that we do. The building gets packed out.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: We have like four people for that show. It's my
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: favorite time of the year. So I'm excited for that.
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: And if you want more Doctor Trey, like I mentioned earlier,
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: you can catch me on the Rejects podcast. So just
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: go to Facebook dot com slash the Rejects podcast or
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: search them mat you can find me there. Jeff, it
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: was an hour and a half. Some great guys one
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: of my old wrestling Coharts, that's his show.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: He runs it.
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: They do a great job. And not to mention it's
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: on it's a livestream podcast. It's like you literally see
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: my face for an hour and a half, which we
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: don't do because I love you guys and I don't
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: want to burden with you at that site.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: So where people where can people check that out?
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: It's the REGI if you go to Facebook dot com
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: slash the Rejects podcast, I believe and if that, if
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: that's not the actual link, you can just search on
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: Facebook the regis Rejects Podcasts. It's the first thing that
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: comes up and you'll see my my happy face for
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: like an hour and a half.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: It's just it was a good time we got to
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: It's it's a They do a similar type thing to us.
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: They do a lot of talk about the wrestling world
- 1:04:26Speaker 4: and recapping some stuff, but uh, they do a lot
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: more deep dives into certain areas that we do. Uh,
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: and more fancy booking than we do, because, as you
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: can tell by our predictions, my fancy booking skills are atrocious.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: So off the I just got the Rejects. It was
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: like a movie podcast, the Rejects podcast.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: I will find it and post it on our Facebook page.
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: Yeah, please do. Let's give them some love so that way.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: It's easier to find because I don't know there you
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: are l.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough? Yeah, Doctor Trap will post it
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: up on our sr to you page for everybody to
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: check out. Maybe up there by the time you download
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: and listen to the show doc tre before we close
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: up shop here. Any thoughts on the upcoming holiday programming schedule.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: No, I'm super excited for it.
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: It's amazing that it just so happens that the first
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: episode of the year is seven seven seven, which was
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: who you Were in Atlantic City. That'd be a really
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: good number to have. I'm excited because twenty twenty four
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: has been so good. I am stoked to see what
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: twenty twenty five brings us, and I can't there are
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: years in the past you and I know this that
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: we couldn't say that heading into the new year, about
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: how real like we had to be optimistic and cautiously
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: optimistic and hopeful. Dude, I am downright giddy about how
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: good twenty twenty five might. I mean we're gonna I mean,
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: not only is wrestling coming to Netflix, wrestling is also
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: coming to Max. So I mean the fact that you're
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: gonna have two different streaming services showing wrestling, that you
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: can literally cut the cord and watch wrestling on this
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: your streaming stuff like, and that gives it a little
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: more openness to what content thinking show.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: Dude.
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: I am just so excited for twenty twenty five that
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: I have said dude so many times the last five minutes.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you, dude. So it's a good
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: time for professional wrestling. More importantly, to those who celebrate
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: enjoy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Thank you
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: for making us part of your Thanksgiving week. Thank you
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: for making us part of your week each and every week.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: Thank you for supporting the Still Realta Show and until
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: next week for doc Strife Franklin, I am Jeff Pack.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: This has been the Still Real US show.