Latest / Gladden Longevity Podcast / May Q&A - Mental Health Awareness Month - Episode 286
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- 0:01Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gliden Longevity Podcast.
- 0:04I'm your host, Dr.
- 0:05Jeffrey Gliden, and I'm here today with Autumn Calabresi, co-hosting.
- 0:09Good to see you back.
- 0:10How you doing?
- 0:11Glenn, good to be back.
- 0:12Thank you again for having me as always.
- 0:14Yeah, absolutely.
- 0:15Always fun.
- 0:17So I think today we're going to be focusing on listener questions, if I'm not mistaken.
- 0:22oh Okay.
- 0:24And if I'm not mistaken, you have the list in front of you over there, which I don't.
- 0:28I do, I do, and we got some really great questions coming in that I think are gonna be very helpful for people.
- 0:34So the first one is obviously in regards to May and being mental health awareness month and how mental health and stress affect longevity.
- 0:43uh Chronic stress is linked to inflammation and faster biological aging.
- 0:48What is your approach to managing it through lifestyle, mindset, or supplementation?
- 0:54Yeah, I think, um you know, at Gladden Longevity, we have the life energy circle, right, which is really the psychospiritual space, if you will, and mental health is one of the
- 1:05areas there.
- 1:06um The idea of being able to go back and heal trauma, right, because we're all living in reaction to it.
- 1:13And I think that and being able to feel safe, right, I think when we don't feel safe, it puts us under a lot of stress.
- 1:22And I think one of the insights that I've had is that nothing external to us can ever make us feel safe.
- 1:28Right.
- 1:28So when you think about that, there's no money, there's no relationship, there's no degree, there's no job, there's no even family that can ultimately make us feel safe.
- 1:37And how do you give yourself that?
- 1:39Right.
- 1:39So for me, it's really the psycho spiritual quest, if you will, to to get connected to source energy and feel the safety that comes through that.
- 1:50Right.
- 1:51And then healing those traumas is really, it requires help.
- 1:56think um seeing somebody, a therapist or someone that can help you dissect what actually went on so you can actually understand it, take responsibility for your part in it, my
- 2:07part in it, um and then forgive everybody involved, right?
- 2:12I think it's so helpful.
- 2:13And forgiveness for me was always such an abstraction for such a long time.
- 2:17Like if somebody said, I forgive you, I don't know, I didn't really feel, it's like, I don't know what just happened, right?
- 2:23It doesn't feel like that much happened.
- 2:26And then I had this, um this kind of insight that, you know, we have unconditional positive regard, right?
- 2:34Right.
- 2:34There's nothing, nothing blocking that.
- 2:36And if something happens, what happens is we put up a wall.
- 2:40It's like, I'm no longer going to receive or feel unconditional regard for this positive regard for this other person.
- 2:47And I think forgiveness for me is when we get to a point where it's like, okay, it takes a lot of psychic energy to hold that wall up.
- 2:53And I'm going to take that wall down.
- 2:55It doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to go to lunch with my, you know, X this or that or whatever, but it does mean that I'm just going to allow positive energy to flow.
- 3:04And if there's anything coming back, I'll just go ahead and receive it.
- 3:07And when you, when you forgive, it just means all of a sudden there's less stress in your system.
- 3:13And I think.
- 3:14It's really fascinating because it not only drives inflammation and aging, you know, just look at every president, right?
- 3:21How much stress they're under and how they age in four years.
- 3:24But there was a recent study that looked at yogis when they're meditating that showed that when they go into a deep theta state, which is like deep meditation, theta is the brain
- 3:34wave just above delta, delta is when you're asleep.
- 3:37So it's in that kind of hypnagogic state that almost right before sleep state.
- 3:41m
- 3:42What they found is that in the first 15 minutes, they had a 40 % increase in the release of stem cells and dodging the stem cells into their system to facilitate healing.
- 3:52Right.
- 3:53Isn't that a massive.
- 3:54Right.
- 3:55So it's, it's the combination of being able to release stress and go into a deep restorative meditative state.
- 4:03Those two things kind of work hand in hand.
- 4:05So I think, I think stress is massive on the.
- 4:10on the aging side, also think it represents a massive opportunity.
- 4:14um In fact, I think it's hard to really age well if you're still angry, resentful, know, living in reaction to, right?
- 4:23What do you want to be an angry old person?
- 4:25Is that what you're going for, right?
- 4:27So I think you want to get to that more transcendent space, yeah.
- 4:32Yeah, I think coming from the fitness and nutrition expert side, I would say just when you're looking at lifestyle, like some immediate things is just looking at are you
- 4:40exercising first of all, because movement can really help release stress.
- 4:45I know for me when I have a lot of stress or anxiety, just a walk like a walk out in nature can really help release some of that feeling and that entered the adrenaline that I
- 4:56sort of feel pumping through my body.
- 4:59The infrared sauna can help with inflammation, breathing techniques, right?
- 5:04Slowing down the inhalation and the exhalation, getting out of the fight or flight and into the rest and digest.
- 5:12When you're just talking about mental health, I do think being aware of the food that we consume, like I don't...
- 5:20I don't see people attaching the food that we eat to our mental state very much.
- 5:26And I do think it has such a big impact on us and how we're eating and you know, if you're over sugared and over processed food and under on the fiber and all the vitamins and
- 5:36nutrients and you have those deficiencies that so many other things can start to go out of balance and the hormones go out of balance and
- 5:45You know, we're instantly looking for the drug to fix my mental state, but the drug just might be the food that you're eating or not eating that could help.
- 5:54just, you know, more whole foods and real foods and less of the processed stuff, because that puts less stress on your body as well.
- 6:01So I think all those things can be really helpful to incorporate along with this deep healing that you're referencing.
- 6:09it's a great point that you make.
- 6:10And I think one of the things is that we tend to think of eating as being restorative, right?
- 6:16Like we're going to sit down and eat and this will be restorative, but in actual fact, it's actually stressful.
- 6:21It's a metabolic stress on the body.
- 6:23Um, and so, you know, in all the blue zones, they really have this, um, mantra of Hati Hachi Buu, I believe is the term Hati Hachi Buu.
- 6:34I believe it's Japanese and
- 6:36It really is aligned with the idea of stopping when you're, you know, like 80 % full.
- 6:46Like you never eat until you're full.
- 6:48You only eat until you're not hungry.
- 6:50And that decreases the metabolic stress on the system as well.
- 6:56and then there are certain foods that can make you anxious, like foods high in glutamate and things like that, that you can look up.
- 7:02So all that becomes super important.
- 7:04Yeah, very cool.
- 7:05I saw something recently too about forest bathing, right?
- 7:09This was a term I was unfamiliar with, but I was looking at it under the context of stressful ah things and things that you can do about stress.
- 7:18And the idea of going out into the forest for two hours has a, has a impact on you for the next week in terms of lowering inflammation and stress.
- 7:26So connection with nature, right?
- 7:29And then I think another thing that lowers stress is increasing oxytocin.
- 7:32right, which comes from personal contact with people, know, hugs, being intimate with people, or just being very friendly with people, laughing and things like that raises
- 7:42oxytocin.
- 7:42So very cool.
- 7:44Yeah.
- 7:44so many things that we could do immediately to start helping with that process.
- 7:51The next question we got was oh in regards to blood pressure, blood pressure and longevity link.
- 7:57uh Why normal isn't always optimal?
- 8:00uh What blood pressure markers matter most for long-term cardiovascular and brain health?
- 8:05And should we redefine what's normal?
- 8:07I'm gonna let you take this one away.
- 8:09That's your alley.
- 8:11Sure, so you know, we used to think 140 over 90 was normal.
- 8:16Then we thought, well, 130 is better.
- 8:18Now, do we know it's 120?
- 8:19What people should understand is that 120 over 80, what people should understand is that it's really a linear risk model.
- 8:26So 115 is better than 120.
- 8:29110 is better than 115.
- 8:31And of course, you could get too low to the point where, you you're dizzy, but.
- 8:35But other than that, you know, if you're like at 105 over 64, that's actually better than, you know, 115 over 75, right?
- 8:45So there seems to be this linear impact with blood pressure and you don't want to take it too low, but that's really the issue.
- 8:53You know, there are a lot of things.
- 8:55So, so when you think about defining it, just think about what's the lowest blood pressure I can run and actually feel good, right?
- 9:01I think that's maybe one way to think about it.
- 9:04The other thing is that
- 9:06You know, what constricts arteries, right?
- 9:08Well, what constricts arteries are stress, right?
- 9:11The sympathetic nervous system when it's dumping out stress squeezes the arteries, right?
- 9:15And so you could really raise your blood pressure and your heart rate that way.
- 9:19Well, what relaxes arteries?
- 9:21Well, obviously parasympathetic nervous system where you're in this deep meditative state will relax arteries, but also nitric oxide releases or relaxes arteries, right?
- 9:31It's a molecule that causes your arteries to dilate and
- 9:35What does it take for nitric oxide to be released?
- 9:38Well, it takes a very healthy what's called glycocalyx.
- 9:41This is like a fuzz that's lining the inside of the artery that works as a sensor for blood flow.
- 9:46When blood is flowing past it, think of it like the moss in the bottom of a creek.
- 9:50It senses that rate of blood flow.
- 9:53And when you start walking or exercising or doing something, the blood flow increases.
- 9:57So the moss recognizes that the glycocalyx and it basically signals the, the layer of
- 10:04cells just below it, the skin, the endothelium that lines the artery to make nitric oxide so the artery will dilate.
- 10:11So you get more blood flow to your muscle or your heart or your brain or whatever you're doing, right?
- 10:14So that's important, but you can't make nitric oxide if you don't have a glycocalyx and you can't make nitric oxide if you have a glycocalyx, but you don't have the right tools
- 10:25to make it and you need dietary nitrate to do that.
- 10:28This is why plants
- 10:29like arugula and kale and beets and spinach that are rich in dietary nitrate actually help you have the substrate to make nitric oxide from.
- 10:38So there are supplements that you can take called N101 oh that'll actually make you make nitric oxide right now.
- 10:45And then there are supplements you can do to help protect the glycocalyx.
- 10:48Well, what destroys the glycocalyx?
- 10:50Well, it's destroyed by sugar, right?
- 10:52So sugar destroys the glycocalyx, right?
- 10:56And probably, you know,
- 10:58Some certain saturated fats could do it as well, but the glycocalyse can be destroyed very quickly.
- 11:03There's been research done, Big Mac fries and the Coke will not only destroy it within a matter of minutes, but it'll keep it destroyed for up to seven or eight hours, right?
- 11:14Right.
- 11:15So.
- 11:16It's our diet that's destroying the glycocalyx that's impairing nitric oxide production, which raises blood pressure, decreases athletic performance, brain performance and sexual
- 11:25activity.
- 11:26Well, not activity necessarily, but certainly performance.
- 11:29Right.
- 11:29So what you want to do is to have a healthy glycocalyx and low stress and high dietary nitrate intake.
- 11:37um If you do those things, you know, then you you're starting to live young for a lifetime.
- 11:42You have a low blood pressure.
- 11:44You.
- 11:44can exercise well, have better cardiovascular performance, better sexual performance, and life is fun.
- 11:50So that's the idea.
- 11:52So there's a couple of supplements that work really well.
- 11:54There's one called Revaska that actually regrows the glycocalyx.
- 11:59Another one called Artiracil, the two work together actually quite nicely to regrow it.
- 12:03And they can regrow it also in a matter of minutes.
- 12:06So that's pretty interesting.
- 12:07Yeah.
- 12:08What about the little bit of a follow-up question, because we had a second question about blood pressure.
- 12:13um Supplements like magnesium, beet juice, potassium, where would those fall into play around this level of normal?
- 12:26Also very important.
- 12:27We tend to get so much sodium in our diets, right?
- 12:30That that can drive blood pressure to go up.
- 12:32Potassium actually helps to relax the arteries.
- 12:34Magnesium also relaxes smooth muscle, which is the muscle in the artery, right?
- 12:38So those are very important.
- 12:40You can lower blood pressure by eating a higher potassium rich diet or magnesium rich diet.
- 12:46So those are good.
- 12:47um And the beet juice is really just dietary nitrate.
- 12:51Right?
- 12:51So, yeah.
- 12:54Great, so I think that again, very helpful things that we can do and understand more right now.
- 13:01Let's talk hormone and menopause.
- 13:04So this one is uh a question about estrogen.
- 13:08Estrogens role in protecting the heart and brain.
- 13:11And should more women be exploring HRT for long term vitality?
- 13:17I love this one, obviously this is something I have been.
- 13:21diving into quite a bit the last couple of years, hormonal health, especially for women.
- 13:26Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:27So I just finished a podcast.
- 13:29I was a little late to this one because I was just finishing a podcast on women's health, um on hormone replacement therapy.
- 13:38Interestingly enough, right.
- 13:40We did it with Dr.
- 13:40Sarah Dacheret.
- 13:41um Really fascinating.
- 13:44It was on the Gluten Longevity podcast also.
- 13:47m But the, um you know, what we came away with was that there were a lot of hormone disruptors in the environment.
- 13:56right, so many plastics and different chemicals that are disrupting hormone levels for men and women.
- 14:01Even, you know, when you look at fertility rates and sperm count rates and testosterone levels and estrogen levels and things like that, ah you know, the youth are kind of being
- 14:11beat up by the environment which we reside in, right?
- 14:14More so than certainly I think that I was growing up, you were growing up.
- 14:18And so uh very important, I think, to actually look at testing yourself with these toxins and trying to
- 14:26get them out of your environment would be the first thing.
- 14:29Then the second thing was that we tend to think of hormone replacement therapy for people when they're going through menopause or just after menopause.
- 14:39And the conversation was that, you know, we should be thinking about this a lot earlier, right?
- 14:44Optimizing hormones a lot earlier, even in our 20s and 30s, optimizing hormones.
- 14:48And it's pretty easy to do.
- 14:50uh
- 14:51And Dr.
- 14:52Sarah was talking a lot about, she's a big fan of using transvaginal estrogen or progesterone because they're well absorbed and it works well for the vaginal lining, but
- 15:03they also become systemic.
- 15:04And then maybe a little bit of oral DHEA if you want to boost testosterone after that.
- 15:09um And, and using those at early, uh early stages, there's so many people with PCOS and people with endometriosis and things like that, that you can.
- 15:20help by rebalancing the hormones.
- 15:22And then of course for men, um you know, using testosterone and DHEA can be very important.
- 15:30We also talked about the importance of looking at the hormone metabolites and the genetic surrounding hormones to understand how you metabolize them.
- 15:37It says that you make sure that you do it safely.
- 15:39So I think hormones are central to the longevity equation.
- 15:44They're not enough, but they certainly you can't get there without them.
- 15:47So yeah.
- 15:49Yeah, well, let me ask you a follow up question to that just because I think it is such an important uh conversation to be having.
- 15:55Like so many people are experiencing hormone disruption like we were talking about, but so many people, I've heard this, who should they be looking to speak to doctor wise?
- 16:08Because unfortunately, not every doctor
- 16:12And obviously every doctor has specialties as it is, but you know, women especially will go talk to their OBGYN and they don't necessarily have all the information.
- 16:21So where would somebody go to start to understand their hormones?
- 16:26Cause I think, I wish this was something we were taught more, but it's just not happening yet.
- 16:31Yep, I think that's right.
- 16:32You know, think CHET GPT can actually give you more information than most doctors at this point in time, especially if you're some of the more sophisticated models like 03 or some
- 16:42of the deep search models or things like that.
- 16:44think, unfortunately, physicians were trained that hormones were kind of an adjunct that were used for symptoms and they weren't really used as a health optimizing um kind of
- 16:56technology, if you will.
- 16:57So...
- 16:58Most of your doctors, especially OB-GYNs that really were taught, well, you give estrogen if somebody's having hot flashes and that's about the end of it, right?
- 17:06They weren't really taught about balancing hormones.
- 17:08And if you are going to take estrogen, you only take it for a year or two and then stop it when you're through menopause.
- 17:13The problem is when you're hormonally depleted, your tissues don't do well.
- 17:18Skin, hair, brain, heart, blood vessels, all of that start to suffer, bones for that matter.
- 17:25All of it starts to suffer.
- 17:27And it's really important to understand that men need estrogen, right?
- 17:31They need estrogen.
- 17:32So taking a testosterone shot and then taking an astrozole to block estrogen production is really counterproductive.
- 17:39I mean, it may be important for certain people that are very fast metabolizers of testosterone into estrogen, but for the majority of men, you want to have estrogen on
- 17:48board.
- 17:48It's really good for your brain, your blood vessels, everything else.
- 17:52And for women, having some testosterone is also good.
- 17:55um
- 17:56Progesterone will help with our DHEA will help there, but you want to have muscle mass.
- 18:01You want to have bone density and you need a combination of both testosterone and estrogen to get that.
- 18:05Right.
- 18:06And so um I think you need to try to track down somebody that focuses on hormone replacement therapy from a more holistic approach, right?
- 18:15Where they're looking at the genetics and they're looking at thyroid as well, because thyroid, if it's not working properly, will make the hormones not work properly.
- 18:24um
- 18:25And I think if a doctor is only looking at blood tests to make decisions on thyroid, they're missing the boat.
- 18:31You really need a resting metabolic rate to really know where your thyroid is set.
- 18:35So you've got to do your research to find a doctor that's really competent in thyroid and hormone replacement therapy.
- 18:42And it's a bit of a struggle, quite honestly.
- 18:46Even people that advertise themselves as experts may not be going about it in the best way.
- 18:52So, you know, it's a little tricky.
- 18:56Yeah, very important to do your research and to not just be out there.
- 19:01Let me get some testosterone and start injecting yourself or whatever it be.
- 19:05Really understanding how it all works and doing it supervised properly is key.
- 19:10Okay, let's see.
- 19:11ah Can you rewire an aging brain for youthful performance?
- 19:18How does brain flexibility change with age and can we practice things like meditation?
- 19:25or movement to reverse decline.
- 19:28Yeah, I'm a big fan of optimizing the nervous system.
- 19:31I think that the nervous system is the key to everything.
- 19:34And I think oh one of the, you've heard about people saying that they're old and fixed in their ways, right?
- 19:42And what that means to me is that they've, they've basically landed on their answers and they're, they're, they're just married to those answers.
- 19:50And I really think youthfulness is curiosity, right?
- 19:54So you want to be married to your questions.
- 19:56You want to be curious about everything.
- 19:58It's like, oh, well, that's interesting.
- 19:59Let me learn more about that.
- 20:01And you're constantly changing your answers to basically better serve your questions.
- 20:06And so we have five questions here, right?
- 20:09How good can we be?
- 20:10How do we make 100 to do 30, et cetera, et cetera?
- 20:13And it's those questions that drive all innovation.
- 20:15So as you're aging, you want to make sure that you stay curious.
- 20:18You want to make sure that you find your questions and that you keep asking them over and over again.
- 20:23Even if you have an answer that you like, you can continue to iterate on it.
- 20:27Like for example, you love exercise, but there are ways to iterate on that, right?
- 20:31It's like, well, how do we do that better?
- 20:32How do I challenge my nervous system better?
- 20:35I was just at a conference speaking in Arizona and um there were a number of people in the audience.
- 20:41All of them were very longevity minded.
- 20:43um And I was showing them how to walk in figure eights, right?
- 20:48With their eyes open.
- 20:50then walk backwards with their eyes open, then walk forwards with their eyes closed, then walk backwards with their eyes closed as a challenge to the nervous system.
- 20:59So one of the things you want to do to keep your nervous system young is to constantly challenge it.
- 21:04Because if the nervous system isn't challenged, it gets lazy, right?
- 21:08And it gets sort of fixed, if you will.
- 21:11So challenging yourself.
- 21:12It's one of the reasons I like your workouts is because my theory is you can never really get in shape in a gym.
- 21:19You have to be in a context where there's variable things coming at you, right?
- 21:24Either the wind or the rocks or the tree you're climbing over or whatever it is or the movement that you're doing that's creating some, what shall I say, some unexpected
- 21:35variations that you have to adapt to.
- 21:38Your nervous system stays young and healthy when it has to adapt and has to recognize the environment and change.
- 21:43So you want to put yourself in new environments.
- 21:46where you're forced to adapt and change, where you're constantly learning new things.
- 21:49Learn how to dance, learn how to play an instrument.
- 21:53You've heard all these things, but you want to keep challenging the nervous.
- 21:56Make new friends for that matter, right?
- 21:57Have a new conversation about a topic you don't know anything about.
- 22:00That's a great way to learn something.
- 22:03I love that so many people were so afraid to go talk to new people.
- 22:07I actually just had people asking and on the other podcast that I host like, can you please do a show about meeting friends after a certain age because in your four 30s 40s it
- 22:18gets so much harder.
- 22:19And we're also used to being on our phones that even striking up a conversation becomes hard.
- 22:24are sort of losing this connected ability to talk.
- 22:29to each other or be in an uncomfortable situation.
- 22:32We don't even look up when we're crossing the street anymore.
- 22:35And I also think, you know, like you were saying, be curious.
- 22:38So it's like, you can have a fitness routine.
- 22:41Obviously, I love having a fitness routine.
- 22:43But I also especially this time of year, like getting outside and playing pickleball with my son, that's something new that we've taken up and having to try to learn that.
- 22:53What are the techniques of pickleball and how does this work and what are we supposed to do and the agility of it all.
- 22:59So, or getting in the pool and swimming and trying new things.
- 23:03it doesn't have to feel tedious.
- 23:04Yeah.
- 23:08Yeah.
- 23:08You know, you know, you're doing the right thing when it's fun, right?
- 23:11You know, you're doing the right thing when you feel like a beginner.
- 23:14And I think one of the things that works against us is that as we age, we start to identify with the fact that we're competent.
- 23:22Right.
- 23:23We were told in school, well, you're getting good grades because you're competent at this.
- 23:26Right.
- 23:26And so now it is an adult.
- 23:28It's like, well, you're good at that.
- 23:29So now I'm competent.
- 23:30So now my identity is tied up with being competent.
- 23:32So we're
- 23:33We're reluctant to put ourselves in a situation where we're a novice and we have no idea how to do this.
- 23:38Right.
- 23:38And so I tell people, imagine you're five years old and somebody just went by on a scooter and it's like, Oh, I'm going to try that.
- 23:45You know, take that mindset, right?
- 23:47Take that mindset into everything.
- 23:49When you go to a gym, when you go out for a hike, when you whatever, and just be a kid again, that's it's, it's fun.
- 23:55It's super fun.
- 23:56Yeah, I love that so much.
- 23:58That's such a great one.
- 23:59And then just finishing touching on that.
- 24:01um question of meditation or breath work or getting into that very deep relax, relax, sit, relax, get your words out on them.
- 24:13Does that impact how our brain fires itself?
- 24:18It does.
- 24:19It really calms it down.
- 24:20It'll calm down neuroinflammation.
- 24:22um It enables things to actually work better.
- 24:25Like when we're so hyper-focused or anxious or worried, it decreases the ability to make new memories.
- 24:32When we have a lot of cortisol in our system from stress, it decreases the hippocampus' ability to actually put down new memories.
- 24:40And so super important, meditation, and I'm a big fan of brain tap.
- 24:45um It's a device where you wear like headphones with a visor, binaural beats, photobiomodulation, and it can put you right into a meditative state in a matter of
- 24:55seconds, quite honestly.
- 24:56um And so doing that um is really restorative for your brain.
- 25:02There are other things to really improve cognitive abilities though, too.
- 25:06And that's another conversation altogether.
- 25:08We can deconstruct that later, but in general, you know, meditation is wonderful for that.
- 25:14I love anything that gets me into that relaxed state meditation.
- 25:20Because for me, stress is a big one.
- 25:22And you've said it to me many times that when it comes to all of my health and longevity, manage your stress, Autumn, or we're only going to get so far.
- 25:31That's right.
- 25:32Well, yeah.
- 25:33I'll send you some information on Brain Tap.
- 25:36Maybe you can grab one.
- 25:38Yeah.
- 25:39all the questions that we got for this episode, Dr.
- 25:42Gladden.
- 25:42I think we gave great information.
- 25:45Is there anything else that?
- 25:47Hmm.
- 25:48We need to cover for everybody today.
- 25:51Well, we are finding out some really, really interesting uses for uh medications in the longevity space.
- 25:59Medications that were originally developed for one purpose, but are now actually being found to have significant impact on longevity itself.
- 26:08There's a category of diabetes medicines called SGLT2s that were introduced.
- 26:13Everybody's familiar with GLP1s like ozempic and things, but SGLT2s were also introduced not long ago.
- 26:20And they don't have some of the side effects that GLP ones have like uh muscle loss and bone density loss and things like that.
- 26:28They do control blood sugar by allowing people to excrete it out through the urine.
- 26:32It blocks the reabsorption of sugar through the kidney back into the bloodstream.
- 26:36So it's filtered out in the urine and not reabsorbed.
- 26:39So um it could potentially increase somebody's urinary tract infection risk if they were prone to that.
- 26:45But it turns out now that it also
- 26:48increases autophagy, it activates AMPK, it decreases mTOR, so now it's like rapamycin plus metformin, you know, and it's also increasing your ability to prune senescent cells from
- 27:02your body by decreasing a molecule that actually exposes them, and then it's activating your natural killer cells to go prune them.
- 27:10So here's a medication that's actually has multiple...
- 27:14longevity benefits.
- 27:15So we're really excited to look at these and we now have new tests that can actually measure um some of the things that this drug is actually doing.
- 27:23So lots of progress in terms of the true longevity stuff.
- 27:28Yeah, pretty cool.
- 27:30Sure.
- 27:31curious, because I think that's fascinating.
- 27:35I'm assuming it's still very much in the discovery phase of how it would be used for longevity, but when it comes to somebody like who's already healthy and in good shape and
- 27:45an ideal weight or a healthy weight, would that be something that they would potentially be able to use in a low dose or a micro dose for longevity?
- 27:54Yes.
- 27:54The answer is yes.
- 27:55Yeah.
- 27:56Yes.
- 27:57I'm going to start taking it actually and I'll let you know how it works out.
- 28:00I think that, yeah, I think that's really interesting to hear and learn more about.
- 28:04So we'll definitely have to touch base on that one again in a future episode.
- 28:08yeah, lots of really cool stuff coming.
- 28:10So, well, we really appreciate your questions.
- 28:13I hope that's helpful.
- 28:14And I'm always a pleasure.
- 28:17So.
- 28:18a pleasure.
- 28:18know I learned new things today.
- 28:19I hope everybody else did and always as always.
- 28:22Thank you for having me on doctor gladden
- 28:23absolutely.
- 28:24Okay.