Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And The People Who Pushed Hardest For Her Freedom (7/23/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: In today, considering we have a relatively long article now.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Gilanne Maxwell's legal team has been beating the drums for
- 0:09Speaker 1: quite some time about her inhumane incarceration, and recently, adding
- 0:17Speaker 1: to their voice has been Gilay Maxwell's family, in particular
- 0:20Speaker 1: her brother Ian Maxwell. Well, our article today is going
- 0:26Speaker 1: to touch on that some more. Ian Maxwell is back
- 0:29Speaker 1: out in the press and he's making the case for
- 0:32Speaker 1: his sister to get bailed out before this trial. Now,
- 0:36Speaker 1: I can't really fault the guy for wanting to defend
- 0:38Speaker 1: his sister, right, I get it. You know, I'd want
- 0:40Speaker 1: to defend my sister too, And nobody wants to believe
- 0:44Speaker 1: that their loved ones are capable of such heinous behavior.
- 0:49Speaker 1: But let's be real, how close were Ian Maxwell and
- 0:52Speaker 1: Gilaane Maxwell? Did he know everything she was doing all
- 0:56Speaker 1: the time? Do you know everything your brother or sister
- 0:59Speaker 1: is up to a all times? I certainly don't. I mean,
- 1:02Speaker 1: we would like to think that our loved ones are
- 1:05Speaker 1: doing the right thing. We'd like to think that our
- 1:08Speaker 1: loved ones aren't engaging in criminal conspiracies. We'd like to
- 1:12Speaker 1: think that our loved ones aren't abusing children. And it's
- 1:17Speaker 1: hard to wrap our minds around it when that information
- 1:21Speaker 1: is brought forward. So I don't blame i in Maxwell
- 1:25Speaker 1: for wanting to defend his sister, right, I don't think
- 1:28Speaker 1: anyone should blame this guy for wanting to defend his sister.
- 1:32Speaker 1: But what I will say is this, the evidence is
- 1:37Speaker 1: a mile high. And even if this was my family member,
- 1:41Speaker 1: even if this was my sister or my closest friend
- 1:44Speaker 1: or whoever, if all of this evidence was presented, and
- 1:49Speaker 1: all of this circumstantial evidence was available and I didn't
- 1:53Speaker 1: know what you were up to for large gaps of
- 1:56Speaker 1: your life, then I don't think I'd be coming out
- 1:59Speaker 1: and being so adamant in your defense here, because you
- 2:05Speaker 1: only know what you know, and you only know the
- 2:09Speaker 1: face that Glan Maxwell or insert whoever here puts on
- 2:14Speaker 1: to try and fake you out. Right. So while it's
- 2:17Speaker 1: all fine and well for Ian Maxwell to come out
- 2:20Speaker 1: and try and defend his sister, let's be real. You
- 2:24Speaker 1: don't know what she was up to. You have no
- 2:26Speaker 1: idea what she was doing during the Jeffrey Epstein saga,
- 2:32Speaker 1: or maybe you do, Ian, And if that's the case,
- 2:35Speaker 1: maybe you should speak to the authorities as well, sir.
- 2:39Speaker 1: But if you do not know, and you weren't around,
- 2:43Speaker 1: then how could you possibly make such an ardent defense
- 2:47Speaker 1: about your sister's innocence. So basically, you're doing what you're
- 2:51Speaker 1: blaming the media of doing, but just in a different way.
- 2:54Speaker 1: It's okay if you do it, because the narrative is
- 2:58Speaker 1: moving in the direction that you wanted to, So it's
- 3:00Speaker 1: okay then. But you see, this is how this works,
- 3:05Speaker 1: all right. This is a public case, a huge interest
- 3:13Speaker 1: of the general public at large, so of course people
- 3:16Speaker 1: are going to be talking about this, and of course
- 3:18Speaker 1: people are going to have their own ideas and opinions
- 3:21Speaker 1: about what's going on, the same as you, Ian Maxwell.
- 3:28Speaker 1: And the fact that anyone would to think that this
- 3:33Speaker 1: is targeted at Gelain Maxwell simply because Jeffrey Epstein is
- 3:39Speaker 1: no longer around that is such a shortsighted approach to
- 3:43Speaker 1: this whole entire thing that I can't even put it
- 3:45Speaker 1: into words. Let's be very clear, Gilain Maxwell is being
- 3:51Speaker 1: accused of her own crimes. This has nothing to do
- 3:54Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein. At this point. She engaged in her
- 3:59Speaker 1: own crimes and she no longer has the umbrella of
- 4:03Speaker 1: Epstein to shield her from this radioactive fallout. So now
- 4:11Speaker 1: when the spotlight finally turns to her and people start
- 4:14Speaker 1: pointing to the finger at her and unfortunately she's left
- 4:18Speaker 1: hold in the hot potato. Well, you're the last man
- 4:21Speaker 1: standing or a woman standing in this case. And despite
- 4:28Speaker 1: what Geleane Maxwell's lawyers have to say and what her
- 4:31Speaker 1: brother has to say, in my opinion, she was a
- 4:36Speaker 1: co conspirator, a co boss, and somebody who helped Jeffrey
- 4:43Speaker 1: Epstein not only put all of this into action, but
- 4:46Speaker 1: also helped him with the actual abuse of girls, according
- 4:50Speaker 1: to them. So I'd say, Ian Maxwell, that this is
- 4:55Speaker 1: the kind of case where someone like Elaine Maxwell, your sister, unfortunately,
- 5:03Speaker 1: shouldn't get bail. The crimes are heinous, the allegations are serious,
- 5:09Speaker 1: and there is a risk of flight, no matter what
- 5:14Speaker 1: you or anyone else says. Having those passports, having that money,
- 5:20Speaker 1: having the ability to disappear will certainly guide the judge's decision.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And that's what we have seen for the past two attempts,
- 5:31Speaker 1: and I would be shocked if we didn't see that
- 5:35Speaker 1: this next time around. All right, So let's see what
- 5:39Speaker 1: ABC News has to say about all of this. This
- 5:42Speaker 1: article is from Abcnews Dot Go dot Com headline, Gilean
- 5:47Speaker 1: Maxwell's brother insists she should be treated as presumed innocent.
- 5:51Speaker 1: She is not Epstein and I agree everybody should be
- 5:54Speaker 1: treated as innocent until they're found guilty. But that doesn't
- 5:58Speaker 1: mean that questions won't be ast So what do you
- 6:01Speaker 1: think that nobody should talk about the case? Nobody should
- 6:03Speaker 1: have an opinion about the case. That's not how things
- 6:06Speaker 1: work here in the United States, mister Maxwell. All right,
- 6:08Speaker 1: maybe where you're from, that's how it works. Maybe you can,
- 6:11Speaker 1: you know, squash people's opinions and voices, But here in
- 6:14Speaker 1: the good old United States, that shit's not going to work,
- 6:18Speaker 1: at least not yet. So we're gonna continue to discuss
- 6:21Speaker 1: your sister. We're going to continue to discuss the heinous
- 6:24Speaker 1: crimes that she's been alleged to commit, and we're gonna
- 6:27Speaker 1: see it all the way through to the very end.
- 6:30Speaker 1: And guess what, July's coming up very quickly. We're gonna
- 6:33Speaker 1: see what's what in July. The rubber is going to
- 6:36Speaker 1: meet the road, and we're gonna see just how great
- 6:40Speaker 1: and how much evidence that you folks can provide to
- 6:44Speaker 1: show us that Gilan Maxwell is innocent. All I have
- 6:47Speaker 1: ever called for or asked for is a full on
- 6:51Speaker 1: investigation here. I've never said anybody is guilty. The circumstantial
- 6:56Speaker 1: evidence certainly doesn't look good for them, right, But until
- 6:59Speaker 1: somebody is tried in a court in front of their peers,
- 7:02Speaker 1: they're innocent. That said doesn't mean she should get out
- 7:07Speaker 1: of jail, none of that stuff. Okay. How many people
- 7:12Speaker 1: are sitting in jail, rotting away right now, waiting for
- 7:14Speaker 1: a trial. A lot of them, and most of them folks,
- 7:20Speaker 1: most of them are poor. This article was authored by
- 7:24Speaker 1: James Hill, Caitlin Fulmer, James Longman, and Santino Lucci, the
- 7:31Speaker 1: brother of Gilan Maxwell, the alleged co conspirator of deceased
- 7:35Speaker 1: sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, said his sister is being subjected
- 7:38Speaker 1: to what he claims is monstrous treatment in a federal
- 7:42Speaker 1: detention center where she awaits trial on charges of aiding
- 7:45Speaker 1: Epstein's abuse of underage girls. Oh yeah, just so monstrous.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I mean every day she's being beaten, she's being put
- 7:53Speaker 1: on the rack, she's getting hit with the cat of
- 7:56Speaker 1: nine tails, they're waterboarding her. Literally, none of that's occurring. Okay,
- 8:03Speaker 1: She's being abused because they flash us a light in
- 8:06Speaker 1: her cell every fifteen minutes. Oh so terrible, so terrible,
- 8:10Speaker 1: And it's not even getting flashed in her face, it's
- 8:12Speaker 1: getting flashed up above. I don't even want to hear it.
- 8:17Speaker 1: I have a friend who did multiple multiple, multiple years.
- 8:22Speaker 1: We're talking a couple of decades in prison, and I
- 8:26Speaker 1: was just talking to him about all of this, and
- 8:28Speaker 1: he was saying that it's laughable to hear her attorneys
- 8:32Speaker 1: and to look at the case in general and see
- 8:34Speaker 1: the different things that she's able to do while in prison.
- 8:39Speaker 1: He wasn't able to do none of that. And guess what.
- 8:41Speaker 1: You know what he had as a lawyer, a public defender,
- 8:44Speaker 1: And you know what that public defender did, Oh he
- 8:46Speaker 1: got him a nice plea deal for twenty years. So
- 8:51Speaker 1: all of the nonsense and the wrangling and the crying
- 8:54Speaker 1: about Gilainne Maxwell and her treatment in prison, look, I
- 8:59Speaker 1: get it. Jail isn't fun. That shit is not fun,
- 9:02Speaker 1: and there needs to be reform. But don't show up
- 9:06Speaker 1: like Johnny Come Lately because your loved one is finally
- 9:09Speaker 1: getting a taste and tell us about how terrible it
- 9:12Speaker 1: is and how she's being tortured. My dude, that shit's
- 9:16Speaker 1: not gonna work. Where were you before your loved one
- 9:22Speaker 1: was getting a taste? Were you out there talking about reform?
- 9:26Speaker 1: Were you out there using your great amount of wealth
- 9:28Speaker 1: for prison reform or anything like that? No, you weren't.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Oh so now it's a problem because your loved one
- 9:35Speaker 1: has to have a couple of bologney sandwiches and sit
- 9:38Speaker 1: in a cell. Guess what, play stupid games and you
- 9:45Speaker 1: win stupid prizes. It's a really ghastly experience. She's lost
- 9:52Speaker 1: twenty pounds, she's losing her hair, she can't concentrate. Sounds
- 9:56Speaker 1: like the stresses where we all go through on a
- 9:58Speaker 1: regular basis. Look at your kids, Gilaye Maxwell. Ever, Oh no,
- 10:03Speaker 1: you don't have any. But how about you, Ian Maxwell?
- 10:06Speaker 1: Look at your family and not know where your next
- 10:08Speaker 1: meal is coming from. You want to talk about monstrous?
- 10:11Speaker 1: That's monstrous. You ever go to sleep with an empty stomach?
- 10:15Speaker 1: Pretty sure you didn't, So please spare me about the
- 10:18Speaker 1: terrible treatment that Gilaine Maxwell is receiving. Ian Maxwell's comments
- 10:24Speaker 1: come as his youngest sister awaits a federal judge's decision
- 10:27Speaker 1: on our third attempt to be granted bail aheader for
- 10:30Speaker 1: her July trial. And again, look, I get it, man,
- 10:34Speaker 1: Jail is not fun. Jail is not a good time.
- 10:37Speaker 1: And I agree with the overall idea that there needs
- 10:40Speaker 1: to be big time reforms in our prison system. But
- 10:44Speaker 1: it is a hollow argument coming from people like this,
- 10:48Speaker 1: people of such means and such ability. And you know
- 10:51Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell was palling around with ex presidents and congressman
- 10:55Speaker 1: and you name it. Was she big on jail reform.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Anyone wants to who kick the tires and let me
- 11:01Speaker 1: know about all of the work she did on jail
- 11:04Speaker 1: reform before she went. How about Ian Maxwell? Any of
- 11:08Speaker 1: these people do big work on jail reform and work
- 11:11Speaker 1: towards making things better for inmates in jail. Now none
- 11:14Speaker 1: of them have so now that your loved one is
- 11:17Speaker 1: experiencing it, Now that your loved one is having a
- 11:20Speaker 1: little bit of a taste, Oh now you're paying attention
- 11:23Speaker 1: to how bad the conditions are in jail. Well, unfortunately,
- 11:29Speaker 1: that's the way it is for the rest of us
- 11:31Speaker 1: when we get in trouble. The previous two attempts were
- 11:39Speaker 1: rejected after the court deemed Gilain Maxwell fifty nine a
- 11:42Speaker 1: flight risk because of the seriousness of the charges, her
- 11:45Speaker 1: substantial wealth and international ties. What do you expect the
- 11:50Speaker 1: court to do? I mean, should the court just be like, ah, no,
- 11:53Speaker 1: that's no big deal. We're gonna let her do. We're
- 11:55Speaker 1: just gonna let her bowl out and then we'll see
- 11:57Speaker 1: what happens. Maybe she'll run, maybe she won't, who knows.
- 12:01Speaker 1: I mean, what, really, what do they expect the court
- 12:03Speaker 1: to do here? When somebody has all of the means
- 12:06Speaker 1: that Gilan Maxwell has. Her latest proposal for pre trial release,
- 12:12Speaker 1: which prosecutors and the alleged survivors oppose, includes an offer
- 12:16Speaker 1: to place her assets of more than twenty million dollars
- 12:20Speaker 1: under the control of a monitor, and to renounce her
- 12:23Speaker 1: citizenship in France, where she was born and in England,
- 12:27Speaker 1: where she was raised. Oh well, in that case, I say,
- 12:30Speaker 1: we just let her out. Now. Not only we just
- 12:32Speaker 1: let her out, we don't even put an ankle monitor
- 12:34Speaker 1: on her, because she knows. She's an honest gal. Her
- 12:36Speaker 1: and her family are just very honest people and they're
- 12:39Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing because they have a track
- 12:41Speaker 1: record of that. I mean, come on, already, enough with
- 12:45Speaker 1: the whole entire Woe is Me campaign here? I mean, really,
- 12:50Speaker 1: and ABC running this shit. So you guys gonna run
- 12:53Speaker 1: the Amy Roebock interview that you squashed anytime soon over
- 12:57Speaker 1: there at ABC. You bunch of scoundrels, a bunch of
- 13:00Speaker 1: con men. Gilayne is an American, her brother said, she's
- 13:06Speaker 1: never been a flight risk. In the year or so
- 13:08Speaker 1: between when Epstein died and when she was arrested, she
- 13:11Speaker 1: was in the United States all the time. She was
- 13:13Speaker 1: not running away from law enforcement. Oh yeah, Ian Maxwell.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Why couldn't the lawyers find her to serve her? Why
- 13:22Speaker 1: did they have to go through the extraordinary steps of
- 13:24Speaker 1: serving her via email? As if that ever occurred before.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Menninger said she couldn't find her, So what does that
- 13:32Speaker 1: mean her own lawyers couldn't find her, but the US
- 13:34Speaker 1: government knew exactly where she was, right, Ian Maxwell. See
- 13:38Speaker 1: here's the thing, folks, None of this stuff that they
- 13:40Speaker 1: talk about lines up. When you have followed this case
- 13:43Speaker 1: from the jump and you see all of the winging
- 13:48Speaker 1: and the nonsensical talk, you could cut right through it
- 13:52Speaker 1: because the fact of the matter is this, All they
- 13:56Speaker 1: have are technicalities and loopholes. Where's the evidence? Okay, we
- 13:59Speaker 1: get it. Jail sucks. Nobody wants to be in jail.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Quit crying about it though, Okay, it is what it is,
- 14:08Speaker 1: All this crying and all this winging three bail attempts.
- 14:11Speaker 1: How many poor people get that ability? But yet Gilaine
- 14:15Speaker 1: Maxwell gets to just lob as many letters to the
- 14:18Speaker 1: judge as she wants, right, She gets to clog up
- 14:21Speaker 1: the court as much as she wants, right, Yeah, but
- 14:24Speaker 1: she doesn't get special treatment. Upon Epstein's arrest in July
- 14:29Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, prosecutors vowed to continue investigating his alleged co conspirators.
- 14:35Speaker 1: After his death in prison a month later, the attention
- 14:38Speaker 1: of the authorities, alleged survivors, and the media quickly focused
- 14:42Speaker 1: on Gilaine Maxwell, who was once a fixture on the
- 14:45Speaker 1: social scene in New York with a rolodex of the rich, powerful,
- 14:50Speaker 1: and politically connected. See there's a mistake there, Okay, nobody
- 14:55Speaker 1: pivoted to focus on Maxwell. We've all been focusing on
- 14:58Speaker 1: Maxwell since the jump. Everybody who knows about this story,
- 15:02Speaker 1: everybody who has really dug into this story, understands the
- 15:05Speaker 1: role that Maxwell played, as alleged by the survivors and
- 15:10Speaker 1: people in the no lawyers, prosecutors, you name it all right,
- 15:14Speaker 1: This isn't just a bunch of people sitting around the
- 15:16Speaker 1: water cooler coming up with crazy ideas. These are allegations
- 15:20Speaker 1: made by the federal government and multiple, multiple, multiple survivors.
- 15:27Speaker 1: So the whole this is because of Jeffrey Epstein. Defense
- 15:32Speaker 1: is bs doesn't hold any weight, And honestly, I don't
- 15:37Speaker 1: think anyone's gonna buy that nonsense, certainly not yourors. She
- 15:42Speaker 1: also has faced civil lawsuits both before and after Epstein's arrest,
- 15:47Speaker 1: from alleged survivors of Epstein who accused her of facilitating
- 15:51Speaker 1: their abuse, allegations she has long denied. She retreated from
- 15:55Speaker 1: public life after Epstein's death in an effort, her brother said,
- 15:59Speaker 1: to protect her family from what he called, oh lynch
- 16:02Speaker 1: mob mentality in the media. Oh god, you see what
- 16:05Speaker 1: they're doing, right, You see how they're trying to position
- 16:07Speaker 1: themselves as the victim, as Gilaine Maxwell is the victim here.
- 16:11Speaker 1: She's the victim of our rabid media. She's not getting
- 16:14Speaker 1: a fair shake. Nobody knows the real story. Okay, well,
- 16:18Speaker 1: why don't you tell us the real story? Ian? Instead
- 16:20Speaker 1: of crying about her conditions in jail, why don't you
- 16:23Speaker 1: show some receipts, some evidence some facts, because where we're
- 16:29Speaker 1: at right now, we certainly haven't seen any of those,
- 16:32Speaker 1: and the court certainly must agree because guess what, Gelaine
- 16:36Speaker 1: still sitting in jail eating baloney sandwiches. My dude. The
- 16:42Speaker 1: real problem is that the media frenzy about her, which
- 16:45Speaker 1: had shifted from Epstein onto her, drove her absolutely mad.
- 16:49Speaker 1: He said, she's married, has a husband, and she has
- 16:52Speaker 1: two stepchildren, and she couldn't allow the terrible frenzy of
- 16:55Speaker 1: the media to be brought down on their heads. Oh yeah,
- 16:58Speaker 1: because it's Gilaine Maxwell's that's the victim here. Has nothing
- 17:01Speaker 1: to do with what Virginia or Annie or any of
- 17:05Speaker 1: these other survivors have went through, according to them, at
- 17:08Speaker 1: the hands of Glan Maxwell. That doesn't matter. None of
- 17:11Speaker 1: that matters. It's all about Glaane having her life interrupted
- 17:14Speaker 1: or some media asking some questions. I have news for
- 17:18Speaker 1: you there, Ian Maxwell. If the media was really doing
- 17:22Speaker 1: their job, they'd be all over this shit. They'd be
- 17:24Speaker 1: all over you. But they really don't care. So nice
- 17:28Speaker 1: try with the media frenzy. But all you have to
- 17:31Speaker 1: do is take a look at how the media covered
- 17:34Speaker 1: the Megan Markele row with the Royals and you'll see
- 17:39Speaker 1: that they still don't care about this story, so please
- 17:43Speaker 1: shelf the whole entire media nonsense. That's another argument that
- 17:47Speaker 1: does not work. Glane Maxwell was arrested last July in
- 17:53Speaker 1: an FBI raid of a secluded New Hampshire estate where
- 17:56Speaker 1: she had been living for several months. An FBI agent
- 17:59Speaker 1: said at a news conference announcing her arrest that the
- 18:02Speaker 1: government had been discreetly keeping tabs on her whereabouts throughout
- 18:06Speaker 1: their year long investigation. So again, we know that the
- 18:10Speaker 1: government and the federal government, especially an Essa Cia, all
- 18:16Speaker 1: of those people, they collect all the metadata that gets
- 18:19Speaker 1: sent out in the whole entire country, probably the world, honestly,
- 18:23Speaker 1: and they can use that metadata to trace people. And
- 18:26Speaker 1: we talked about the stingray set up that they had
- 18:28Speaker 1: that they placed to catch Gilean Maxwell's conversations, and they
- 18:34Speaker 1: probably had her under surveillance of some sort for quite
- 18:38Speaker 1: some time. And you know why they did that because
- 18:41Speaker 1: she was a flight risk they thought, you see, that's
- 18:44Speaker 1: why so when they talk about, oh, Gulaine Maxwell's not
- 18:47Speaker 1: a flight risk, or why she living in New Hampshire,
- 18:49Speaker 1: Why so close to the Canadian border, Why so close?
- 18:54Speaker 1: Why not in the sticks in Missouri. Why not in
- 18:57Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere in I don't know, Arkansas? And
- 19:06Speaker 1: he answers for those questions there, mister Maxwell Lain Maxwell
- 19:11Speaker 1: is charged with facilitating and in some cases, participating in
- 19:15Speaker 1: Epstein's alleged sexual crimes against three unnamed minor girls in
- 19:20Speaker 1: the mid nineteen nineties. Authorities alleged that she groomed the survivors,
- 19:25Speaker 1: befriended them, and put them at ease, knowing that Epstein
- 19:28Speaker 1: intended to sexually abuse them. Think about those charges, and
- 19:31Speaker 1: think about that crime, and think about how heinous that
- 19:33Speaker 1: is for this lady to be involved in that. What
- 19:36Speaker 1: the government is alleging and what the survivors have alleged,
- 19:42Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to. This isn't just
- 19:44Speaker 1: one person pointing the finger at Maxwell where there's some
- 19:47Speaker 1: gray area and you can say, oh, there might be
- 19:49Speaker 1: an axt to grind. No, Literally dozens and dozens of
- 19:53Speaker 1: people have come forward saying this. So again, all of
- 19:57Speaker 1: this is fine, all of this flowery decoration that you're
- 20:01Speaker 1: putting on your sister, mister Maxwell. But July is quickly approaching,
- 20:06Speaker 1: and we're gonna see what's what come trial time and
- 20:09Speaker 1: then We're gonna see what sort of receipts that you
- 20:11Speaker 1: folks are going to provide, and if it looks anything
- 20:15Speaker 1: like what we have seen thus far, no wonder you're
- 20:19Speaker 1: so hell bent on technicalities. She has pleaded not guilty
- 20:26Speaker 1: to all the charges, which also include two counts of perjury.
- 20:30Speaker 1: At her initial court hearing last July, one of the
- 20:32Speaker 1: three accusers, Annie Farmer, now forty one, spoke publicly via
- 20:37Speaker 1: video conference and implored the judge to keep Glaye Maxwell
- 20:40Speaker 1: detained until trial. She has never shown any remorse for
- 20:44Speaker 1: her heinous crimes, for the devastating, lasting effects her actions caused. Instead,
- 20:49Speaker 1: she has lied under oath and tormented her survivors. Farmer said,
- 20:53Speaker 1: and that's direct testimony. Okay, that's not the government alleging anymore.
- 20:58Speaker 1: That's direct testimony from somebody who says she was abused
- 21:02Speaker 1: by Gilaine Maxwell. That's pretty powerful stuff, mister Ian Maxwell.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Pretty powerful stuff. Now, where are your witnesses that are
- 21:10Speaker 1: coming forward to say that this never happened? Who do
- 21:12Speaker 1: you have under oath? Who is going to be a
- 21:14Speaker 1: witness at the trial in regards to Gilaane's innocence. Since
- 21:21Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell's arrest, last summer, her family has maintained a
- 21:24Speaker 1: public silence. Her attorneys have also consistently declined to address
- 21:28Speaker 1: questions from reporters, confining the defense of their client to
- 21:32Speaker 1: their submissions in court. They recently filed twelve separate pre
- 21:36Speaker 1: trial motions seeking to suppress certain evidence, dismiss some charges,
- 21:40Speaker 1: or to toss out the entire case. And that should
- 21:43Speaker 1: tell you everything you need to know. When's the last
- 21:45Speaker 1: time you heard high profile lawyers not wanting to hear
- 21:48Speaker 1: themselves speak. When's the last time you heard of these
- 21:51Speaker 1: high profile lawyers not getting up and given a bunch
- 21:53Speaker 1: of press conferences. Look at the OJ Simpson trial. You
- 21:57Speaker 1: think Johnny Cochrane was sitting around with his mouth shut.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Hell no, he was out in the forefront handling his
- 22:03Speaker 1: business because they felt like they had a game plan here.
- 22:07Speaker 1: From the very jump, all we have seen from Gilaan
- 22:09Speaker 1: Maxwell's team is technicalities and loopholes, loopholes and technicalities, zero evidence,
- 22:17Speaker 1: no receipts. But with her BEIL application pending and her
- 22:23Speaker 1: trial just four months away, her siblings decided it was
- 22:26Speaker 1: time to come forward. They've also hired a family attorney,
- 22:30Speaker 1: David Oscar Marcus, another Harvard graduate by the way, and
- 22:34Speaker 1: started a Twitter account dubbed g max facts. What is
- 22:38Speaker 1: she an underground rapper? Is she going to go to
- 22:40Speaker 1: the underground rap battle and have a battle against mav Hoffe.
- 22:44Speaker 1: She's showing up, She's gonna get down with Iron Solomon.
- 22:47Speaker 1: G Max facts, give me a break. Facts, huh? Facts
- 22:51Speaker 1: according to who not facts according to the real world. Right,
- 22:58Speaker 1: what's going on here is what I've referred to as
- 23:01Speaker 1: the Epstein effect. Well, that's yeah, that's true. At the
- 23:03Speaker 1: Epstein effect, you mean your client hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein,
- 23:06Speaker 1: You mean your client engaging in criminal activity with Jeffrey
- 23:11Speaker 1: Epstein according to the government and to the survivors. Is
- 23:14Speaker 1: that what you're talking about here? She's being held because
- 23:17Speaker 1: of her association with Epstein from all those years ago,
- 23:20Speaker 1: which is absurd. No, what's absurd is you trying to
- 23:22Speaker 1: pitch that narrative. What's absurd is you trying to act
- 23:26Speaker 1: like this is all about Epstein. I'm like, nobody has
- 23:29Speaker 1: come forward and blamed Gilaane Maxwell for you know, abusing them.
- 23:34Speaker 1: That's what's absurd. Your whole defense is absurd. The whole
- 23:38Speaker 1: entire thing you're trying to do here. The whole picture
- 23:41Speaker 1: you're trying to paint here is absurd by association, said Marcus,
- 23:45Speaker 1: a criminal defense lawyer from Miami. I guess Marcus isn't
- 23:48Speaker 1: very good at his job. You can't huh, what about
- 23:50Speaker 1: Rico cases, Marcus? What about accomplices? Marcus? What about co conspirators? Marcus?
- 23:58Speaker 1: Guess that Harvard degree ain't do you so good? Huh?
- 24:01Speaker 1: I mean, you can't hold people on guilt by association.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Isn't that what Rico laws were for? So I don't
- 24:10Speaker 1: know who he's trying to gaslight here, And I guess
- 24:13Speaker 1: he's trying to talk to the general public at large,
- 24:15Speaker 1: people who might not be following this case or something.
- 24:18Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, mister Oscar here, mister Marcus
- 24:24Speaker 1: is not going to look very good. I suspect after
- 24:27Speaker 1: this trial is over and the jury renders its verdict.
- 24:33Speaker 1: I Maxwell's TV interview with GMA is his first, he
- 24:36Speaker 1: said in thirty years. I'm not minimizing the seriousness of
- 24:41Speaker 1: the allegations, but my sister's fighting for her life and
- 24:44Speaker 1: that's pretty serious too. Guess what, She's in jail because
- 24:50Speaker 1: of her crimes. The alleged crimes that she has committed.
- 24:53Speaker 1: So what do you mean, she's her own self sabotage
- 24:56Speaker 1: that has her there. You can't equate what's happening to
- 25:00Speaker 1: her to what happened to these survivors. None of those
- 25:03Speaker 1: girls asked for that. None of those girls woke up
- 25:06Speaker 1: and said, oh gee, I want to be trafficked by
- 25:07Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell. Nobody woke up and said
- 25:11Speaker 1: that shit. But Gilayne Maxwell made the conscious decision to
- 25:15Speaker 1: roll with Jeffrey Epstein. She made the conscious decision to
- 25:19Speaker 1: work with Jeffrey Epstein. So please miss me with that shit.
- 25:23Speaker 1: You try and get in my lane with that kind
- 25:25Speaker 1: of garbage and your rimsel pop. Elaine wants to confront
- 25:30Speaker 1: the accusers head on and deal with this and get
- 25:32Speaker 1: on with her life. She is convinced as she can
- 25:35Speaker 1: be that she will be exonerated. We as a family
- 25:38Speaker 1: are behind her, solidly behind her. Well that's all fine
- 25:42Speaker 1: and well right, I'm glad that you're behind your loved one.
- 25:45Speaker 1: But it's an untenable position to be in for them.
- 25:51Speaker 1: They don't have a defense. I mean, who are you
- 25:53Speaker 1: gonna call as a witness, Prince Andrew. What do you
- 25:55Speaker 1: call Alan Dershowitz as a character witness? All the people
- 25:58Speaker 1: that she can call as a character with n are
- 26:00Speaker 1: also being alleged to be part of this criminal enterprise
- 26:04Speaker 1: in one way or the other. So who exactly is
- 26:06Speaker 1: she going to call up on the stand to talk
- 26:08Speaker 1: about her stunning character? Her brother, a paid lawyer, Leon
- 26:13Speaker 1: Black he and Maxwell said he knew little of his
- 26:18Speaker 1: sister's life in New York, where she moved in nineteen
- 26:21Speaker 1: ninety one after the death of the Maxwell family patriarch,
- 26:25Speaker 1: British press baron Robert Maxwell. Well, how do you know
- 26:28Speaker 1: what she was doing? Then? How can you be so
- 26:30Speaker 1: adamant that she wasn't involved in this if you have
- 26:32Speaker 1: no idea what she was doing during this time period?
- 26:35Speaker 1: You see, this is what I'm talking about. They contradict
- 26:37Speaker 1: themselves with their statements. And to be honest with you,
- 26:40Speaker 1: if I'm recognizing it, realizing it, pointing it out and
- 26:43Speaker 1: tearing it apart, what do you think the lawyers are
- 26:46Speaker 1: going to do? Because folks, like I've said to you
- 26:48Speaker 1: a million times, I am lucky. I can tie my
- 26:51Speaker 1: own shoes, Okay, but it's not very hard to see
- 26:55Speaker 1: the fours through the trees here, he said, he was
- 26:59Speaker 1: aware of Delane Maxwell's friendship with Epstein, but only met
- 27:02Speaker 1: him once. I have absolutely no memory of Epstein at all,
- 27:06Speaker 1: he said. I had no knowledge of their life or
- 27:08Speaker 1: the life that Delane was leading in any great detail. Again,
- 27:12Speaker 1: so how do you know what she was doing? How
- 27:13Speaker 1: can you be so adamant that she wasn't abusing anybody?
- 27:16Speaker 1: How can you be so adamant that these survivors are lying?
- 27:19Speaker 1: What sort of acts do they have to grind here? Sir?
- 27:22Speaker 1: If it was about money, they could have just taken
- 27:24Speaker 1: the money from the compensation fund and moved on with
- 27:26Speaker 1: their life and not pressed the matter. But guess what.
- 27:29Speaker 1: It's not just about the money. It's about justice being served.
- 27:33Speaker 1: And your sister, if you didn't know, was paling around
- 27:37Speaker 1: with one of the most prolific sex traffickers and abusers
- 27:40Speaker 1: in modern history. And not only that, your sister is
- 27:43Speaker 1: accused of partaking in that as well, sir, So when
- 27:46Speaker 1: you weren't paying attention for all those years, guess what
- 27:49Speaker 1: we were. So take a seat, sit down, and learn
- 27:52Speaker 1: a little something. Maybe before piping up. The last time
- 27:58Speaker 1: he saw his sister in person, Maxwell said, was a
- 28:01Speaker 1: rare reunion of the seven surviving Maxwell children in London
- 28:05Speaker 1: on June tenth, twenty nineteen, on what would have been
- 28:08Speaker 1: their father's ninety sixth birthday. Wait, I thought, Gilaine Maxwell,
- 28:11Speaker 1: what didn't leave the country after Epstein was killed? What's
- 28:15Speaker 1: going on here again? So many holes in this whole
- 28:19Speaker 1: argument that they have. It was just serendipitous that we
- 28:24Speaker 1: were all happen to be more or less in Europe
- 28:26Speaker 1: and we got together and it was a very happy,
- 28:29Speaker 1: genuinely happy occasion for all of us. Less than a
- 28:32Speaker 1: month later, Epstein was arrested at Teeterborough Airport in New
- 28:35Speaker 1: Jersey as he returned to the US from his home
- 28:38Speaker 1: in Paris. Oh. I'm sure that everybody was so sad
- 28:41Speaker 1: about their good buddy Jeff Epstein getting arrested. Gilaine is
- 28:47Speaker 1: married with step children, getting on with her life. We're
- 28:50Speaker 1: all getting on with our lives, and then bang this
- 28:53Speaker 1: extraordinary development out of left field. Dan Maxwell said, it's
- 28:57Speaker 1: just straight garbage that they would try and pitch this
- 28:59Speaker 1: and like people with this out of left field. Look,
- 29:02Speaker 1: my dude, your sister has been under investigation for this forever.
- 29:06Speaker 1: The problem is the federal government hasn't had the backbone
- 29:09Speaker 1: to go all the way and see this through. Now
- 29:12Speaker 1: they do. Now they have their receipts, Now they have
- 29:15Speaker 1: the evidence, and your sister and your arguments are looking
- 29:20Speaker 1: very good, my friend. Echoing the arguments of his sister's attorneys,
- 29:26Speaker 1: Ian Maxwell insisted that the prosecutors only targeted her as
- 29:30Speaker 1: a substitute for Epstein after the federal government failed to
- 29:34Speaker 1: keep the alleged child sex trafficker alive to face the
- 29:37Speaker 1: charges against him in twenty nineteen, which is garbage, all right.
- 29:42Speaker 1: We know that there were more charges in the works
- 29:44Speaker 1: for Epstein. We know that more people were going to
- 29:47Speaker 1: be charged under a criminal conspiracy, and we know that
- 29:50Speaker 1: Maxwell is going to be one of them. So don't
- 29:52Speaker 1: act like she was living this like perfect life and
- 29:55Speaker 1: nobody was looking into her and no other charges were
- 29:58Speaker 1: ever going to be filed. And furthermore, if she's so
- 30:00Speaker 1: innocent and she had nothing to do with Epstein's crimes,
- 30:03Speaker 1: while she's waving things, why didn't she waive her protection
- 30:07Speaker 1: under the NPA. She's so innocent, right, wave it. They're
- 30:14Speaker 1: taking it out on my sister. Damn it, that's wrong,
- 30:17Speaker 1: he said. She is not Epstein. Epstein was guilty, he
- 30:20Speaker 1: did time. Oh wait, so Epstein's guilty, but your sister's not.
- 30:24Speaker 1: We can't talk about your sister being guilty, but you
- 30:27Speaker 1: could talk about how Epstein was guilty. Huh, hypocrite. He
- 30:31Speaker 1: did time and he was gonna do a hell of
- 30:33Speaker 1: a lot more time. But she is not him. And
- 30:35Speaker 1: I don't know how many times I have to say it.
- 30:38Speaker 1: She deserves to be treated as Gilaine presumed innocent. Get
- 30:42Speaker 1: on with the defense, tell us what you've got to
- 30:44Speaker 1: tell us, put it up, and then let the jury decide. Yeah,
- 30:47Speaker 1: no shit, pal, that's what's going happening here. That's the
- 30:49Speaker 1: process we're in. And if you people would have focused
- 30:54Speaker 1: a little bit more on her defense and building a
- 30:56Speaker 1: solid defense as opposed to loopholes and technicalities, maybe your
- 31:00Speaker 1: sister would be in a better, more defensible position right now.
- 31:04Speaker 1: But as it stands, the quicksand is in effect and
- 31:10Speaker 1: she's stuck in it. The government contends that at the
- 31:15Speaker 1: heart of its case against Maxwell are brave women who
- 31:18Speaker 1: are survivors of serious crimes that demand justice and who
- 31:21Speaker 1: would deserve to see Maxwell brought the justice at a
- 31:24Speaker 1: trial one hundred percent. That is all I have ever
- 31:28Speaker 1: talked about here. Now, I don't care what anybody else
- 31:30Speaker 1: says or talks about. I'm not responsible for anybody but
- 31:33Speaker 1: myself and where I'm at. All I have ever called
- 31:36Speaker 1: for is a fair trial here, a fair investigation, and
- 31:39Speaker 1: that has not occurred until recently. So now that the
- 31:43Speaker 1: shoe is on the other foot and Maxwell is being
- 31:45Speaker 1: investigated and the survivor's stories are taken seriously, Oh that's
- 31:50Speaker 1: a whole different storyline from team Maxwell. Huh boy. The
- 31:54Speaker 1: narrative changes Cocuter's allege in court filings that the recollections
- 32:03Speaker 1: of the victims bear striking resemblances that corroborate each other
- 32:07Speaker 1: and provide compelling proof of Maxwell's active participation in a
- 32:11Speaker 1: disturbing scheme to groom and sexually abuse minor girls. I mean,
- 32:16Speaker 1: how much more evidence is needed. Let's get those Grand
- 32:19Speaker 1: Jerry transcripts from Palm Beach unsealed. Let's get her to
- 32:23Speaker 1: waive the NPA. What are we waiting for? You know,
- 32:26Speaker 1: they want to make all of these allegations from team Maxwell.
- 32:29Speaker 1: I got a few requests myself, So what's up. Let's
- 32:31Speaker 1: rock US District Court Judge Alison Nathan, who was overseeing
- 32:37Speaker 1: Gilaane Maxwell's criminal case, could rule on the third bell
- 32:40Speaker 1: application at any time. In rejecting the second request in December,
- 32:44Speaker 1: Nathan cited Geilane Maxwell's initial lack of candor about the
- 32:48Speaker 1: identity of her spouse and information about the couple's assets
- 32:52Speaker 1: as among the reasons she would not grant bail. And
- 32:55Speaker 1: still we don't know what kind of assets they have.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Oh well, what do I text your turn? Here's a
- 32:59Speaker 1: little money. I'm yeah, okay, because that's what criminals do
- 33:02Speaker 1: in money alonger is they claim it on their taxes.
- 33:07Speaker 1: In opposition opposition to the latest bail proposal, prosecutors argue
- 33:11Speaker 1: the court should hesitate before trusting the defendant to be
- 33:14Speaker 1: transparent about her finances and that she continues to pose
- 33:18Speaker 1: an extreme risk of flight, and the additional bail conditions
- 33:21Speaker 1: proposed by the defendant do not justify a reversal of
- 33:25Speaker 1: the court's prior findings that no combination of conditions could
- 33:29Speaker 1: ensure her appearance. That's pretty clear cut and dry. No
- 33:33Speaker 1: combination of conditions could ensure her appearance, Pretty cut and dry,
- 33:41Speaker 1: The family's attorney claim the government's arguments are a smoke screen.
- 33:45Speaker 1: The real reason she's not being granted bail is not
- 33:47Speaker 1: because of any real risk of flight. No one's afraid
- 33:50Speaker 1: she's gonna really run, Marcus said. The government wants to
- 33:53Speaker 1: keep her in custody to torture her, to break her down.
- 33:56Speaker 1: All those pretty big allegations there, mister Marcus, any proof
- 34:00Speaker 1: to back that up, or you're just making assertions, you know,
- 34:04Speaker 1: like you're complaining about other people doing towards the case
- 34:07Speaker 1: in general. See how that works here. You see how
- 34:10Speaker 1: the battle for the narrative is raging. And for decades
- 34:14Speaker 1: they were so used to having no people in the way, right,
- 34:19Speaker 1: there was no obstructions to their narrative. Well that's over.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Those days are over. They're not in control of this
- 34:27Speaker 1: narrative anymore, and the truth is gonna come out. All
- 34:31Speaker 1: this winging and all this bs by the lawyers and
- 34:33Speaker 1: her family, it's all fine and well, but July is
- 34:37Speaker 1: quickly approaching, folks. My clock is set. The government has
- 34:47Speaker 1: always disputed defense lawyer's contentions that Maxwell is being treated
- 34:50Speaker 1: punitively as a result of Epstein's death and custody. Prosecutors
- 34:55Speaker 1: stated in court filings that she has more time than
- 34:57Speaker 1: any other detaining in the facility to review two documents
- 35:00Speaker 1: from her case. The flashlight searches, the government said, are
- 35:04Speaker 1: required to confirm that the defendant is not in distress.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Every fifteen minutes. To do so, staffpoint a flashlight to
- 35:11Speaker 1: the ceiling of the defendant cell to illuminate the cell
- 35:14Speaker 1: sufficiently to confirm that the defendant is breathing. Prosecutors wrote,
- 35:20Speaker 1: I mean, so that's the extent of the abuse. H
- 35:22Speaker 1: that's what they're crying about. Let me remind you of
- 35:26Speaker 1: the crying, scared Swedish girl who had our passport taken,
- 35:31Speaker 1: and then think about Delane Maxwell sitting in the jail
- 35:34Speaker 1: cell complaining about being bored, and you tell me which
- 35:38Speaker 1: one is worse. If you'd like to contact me, you
- 35:41Speaker 1: can do that at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 35:44Speaker 1: That's bo bby cap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 35:50Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore
- 35:54Speaker 1: cap you Cci. All of the links that go with
- 35:58Speaker 1: this episode can be in the description box. All right, folks,
- 36:02Speaker 1: I'll be back later on what's up everyone, and welcome
- 36:06Speaker 1: back to the Epstein Chronicles. When Galaign Maxwell was first arrested.
- 36:11Speaker 1: There was a big push from Team Maxwell to get
- 36:14Speaker 1: her sprung from jail and to get bailed out. In fact,
- 36:19Speaker 1: they went so far as to name an operation after it,
- 36:23Speaker 1: and that operation was called Operation GGO Get Glaine Out. Boy,
- 36:29Speaker 1: aren't they creative? A whole group of very very creative
- 36:32Speaker 1: folks over there working at Team Maxwell. Well, today we're
- 36:37Speaker 1: gonna take a trip back in time and we're gonna
- 36:39Speaker 1: look at Operation Get Golaine Out and have a nice
- 36:43Speaker 1: laugh about it. Today's article is from the Daily Mail
- 36:48Speaker 1: headline Operation Get Glaine Out, campaign to free Gallain Maxwell
- 36:53Speaker 1: from jail is launched as family friend claims she's lost
- 36:56Speaker 1: twenty five pounds in custody and is forced to paper clothes.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Oh how horrible for Glayne Maxwell considering what she is
- 37:07Speaker 1: convicted of. Now, I don't think anybody is shedding any
- 37:11Speaker 1: tears for Gallayne Maxwell and the situation she found herself
- 37:15Speaker 1: in at the lockup. Sure could the conditions there be better, absolutely,
- 37:20Speaker 1: but not just for Gallayne Maxwell. That's what they want, right,
- 37:24Speaker 1: great conditions for her. They don't care about anybody else,
- 37:28Speaker 1: So why should things be different for Gallayne Maxwell while
- 37:32Speaker 1: everybody else gets to rot? Away in prison. This article
- 37:37Speaker 1: was authored by Lauren Edmonds and Emily Scrivener, and it
- 37:42Speaker 1: was originally published on October twenty fourth of twenty twenty.
- 37:49Speaker 1: The family of Glenn Maxwell has launched a campaign to
- 37:52Speaker 1: get her out of jail, claiming she's lost considerable weight
- 37:55Speaker 1: and her human rights were violated. I'm pretty sure that
- 37:59Speaker 1: the human rights of all of the girls who were abused,
- 38:02Speaker 1: the thousands of girls, according to some estimations, I think
- 38:07Speaker 1: that their human rights were abused. And you, well, you
- 38:10Speaker 1: were just put where you belonged. Operation GGO, a campaign
- 38:15Speaker 1: to get Golaine out from her Brooklyn prison cell, comes
- 38:19Speaker 1: after she previously sought released this summer on a five
- 38:22Speaker 1: million dollar bell related to sex trafficking crimes. You imagine
- 38:27Speaker 1: five million dollars lay mass Bell, take your five million
- 38:31Speaker 1: and shove it. You're not getting out of jail. Gollaane
- 38:35Speaker 1: enjoy the Bologney sandwiches and the non vegan food. She
- 38:41Speaker 1: maintained her innocence, but the Manhattan judge deemed her a
- 38:44Speaker 1: flight risk, considering she had evaded capture for nearly a year. Now,
- 38:49Speaker 1: her team will tell you that's not the case. They'll
- 38:51Speaker 1: tell you that she was running from the law, running
- 38:54Speaker 1: from I mean not running from the law, but running
- 38:56Speaker 1: from journalists, running from the media, running from all of
- 38:59Speaker 1: the people who are looking for her, but not the
- 39:01Speaker 1: law though when the real reality of it all is
- 39:06Speaker 1: that she was running from the law. In fact, they
- 39:09Speaker 1: tried to serve her with some court documents about her
- 39:12Speaker 1: getting a suit, and the judge couldn't even find her,
- 39:15Speaker 1: so they had to do it via email. And usually,
- 39:19Speaker 1: under most circumstances, if you're getting served, it has to
- 39:22Speaker 1: happen in person, but she was so difficult to find
- 39:25Speaker 1: that the judge allowed it to go down this way.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Brian Basham, a family friend and a pr professional, has
- 39:33Speaker 1: set out the free Maxwell from the cruel and vindictive
- 39:36Speaker 1: treatment she's allegedly received at the hands of the US authorities.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Basham alleged that the heiress has lost twenty five pounds
- 39:44Speaker 1: since she was placed in custody because guards won't accommodate
- 39:47Speaker 1: her vegan diet. The Telegraph reports, God forbid, now that
- 39:52Speaker 1: she's in federal prison, Well, she could buy whatever she
- 39:54Speaker 1: wants at the commissary. Hell, go outside in the yard
- 39:57Speaker 1: and eat the grass and graze like a calf. All
- 40:00Speaker 1: I'm concerned. One thing you're not doing is going down
- 40:04Speaker 1: to your favorite restaurant to get yourself a meal. When
- 40:10Speaker 1: Maxwell complained, Basham told the Telegraph prison officials simply removed
- 40:14Speaker 1: her scales to stop her from recording her weight. Why
- 40:17Speaker 1: does she even have scales in the first place. Oh,
- 40:19Speaker 1: let me go to a jail cell. Hey, I'm gonna
- 40:21Speaker 1: need some scales. Please. What No, You'll get a shower
- 40:24Speaker 1: twice a week and you'll be happy with it. She
- 40:29Speaker 1: has lost twenty five pounds in jail, but when she complained,
- 40:32Speaker 1: they took her away her weighing machine, so she cannot
- 40:35Speaker 1: weigh herself, he told the newspaper. Basham also alleged that
- 40:39Speaker 1: prison officials forced Maxwell to wear clothes made from paper
- 40:43Speaker 1: and banned her from wearing bras over fears she's a
- 40:47Speaker 1: suicide risk. Those were legitimate fears. At the time. Nobody
- 40:51Speaker 1: knew what she was up to or what her mindset was,
- 40:54Speaker 1: so the government has to do what they have to
- 40:56Speaker 1: do and safeguard. We can't have her going the same
- 40:59Speaker 1: way of Epstein, can we. The concerns echoed those of
- 41:05Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, who died by suicide in a Manhattan jail cell.
- 41:08Speaker 1: Last year, while awaiting trial, Epstein, a New York financier
- 41:13Speaker 1: pedophile whose reputation was marred with allegations of child molestation,
- 41:19Speaker 1: was indicted on sex trafficking and conspiracy to engage in
- 41:22Speaker 1: sex trafficking charges. Now look, we know that they're not allegations.
- 41:27Speaker 1: And we know that now for sure. Whenever you have
- 41:30Speaker 1: the estate or somebody like Epstein paying people out in
- 41:35Speaker 1: a compensation fund, Okay, we're not talking about a suit
- 41:38Speaker 1: to say, all right, well you get paid, but I'm
- 41:40Speaker 1: not taking any blame here. That's not what the compensation
- 41:43Speaker 1: fund is. That compensation fund, for all of its warts,
- 41:47Speaker 1: was something that said that Epstein and the estate were
- 41:51Speaker 1: taking liability for the pain and suffering inflicted on these
- 41:55Speaker 1: women by Jeffrey Epstein. So you could miss me with
- 41:58Speaker 1: all that alleged nonsense. He was repeatedly accused of the
- 42:06Speaker 1: vile acts throughout his adult life, and pleaded guilty to
- 42:08Speaker 1: soliciting a miner of for prostitution in Florida. In two
- 42:12Speaker 1: thousand and eight. He was awaiting trial at his Metropolitan
- 42:15Speaker 1: Correction Center jail in New York City when he committed
- 42:19Speaker 1: suicide allegedly by hanging inside his jail cell in August
- 42:24Speaker 1: of two thousand and nineteen. Epstein's death rocked the country
- 42:29Speaker 1: and was a shocking blow for a number of his
- 42:32Speaker 1: survivors who had come forward. Yeah, people who expected justice,
- 42:35Speaker 1: People who had expected the Department of Justice and the
- 42:39Speaker 1: Bureau of Prisons to do their job in safeguard this man. Maxwell,
- 42:44Speaker 1: who was accused of being his madam, who was his madam,
- 42:47Speaker 1: accused and convicted, soon fled and managed to avoid authorities
- 42:51Speaker 1: for months before she was detained in New Hampshire. She
- 42:55Speaker 1: was charged with six federal crimes, including enticement of miners
- 42:59Speaker 1: and sex trafficked. Basham told The Telegraph that prison guards
- 43:03Speaker 1: have stopped talking to Maxwell, who spends her days isolated
- 43:07Speaker 1: in a nine foot by seven foot cell, and they
- 43:09Speaker 1: stopped talking to her because she kept complaining, Oh, this
- 43:12Speaker 1: one's abusing me, that one's abusing me. They're all abusing me.
- 43:16Speaker 1: I'm the victim, Me, me, me, it's me, I'm the victim,
- 43:19Speaker 1: when we all know that's not the case. You are
- 43:21Speaker 1: not the victim, Glen Maxwell. You weren't the victim of
- 43:24Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, and you certainly weren't a victim while you
- 43:27Speaker 1: were in lock up. Her loneliness, according to Basham, is
- 43:31Speaker 1: exasperated by the fact that letters from family have not
- 43:34Speaker 1: reached her. She is unable to talk to her sisters
- 43:38Speaker 1: and their letters are being viewed vindictively and not given
- 43:43Speaker 1: to her. He told the publication, Well, of course they are.
- 43:46Speaker 1: That's what happens when you're in the special housing unit.
- 43:50Speaker 1: They go through all of your stuff if you're in
- 43:52Speaker 1: jail in general, but if you're in special housing, forget
- 43:55Speaker 1: it with a fine tooth comb. She is in a
- 44:00Speaker 1: nine foot by seven foot cell on a floor of
- 44:03Speaker 1: the prison, with no one else on it. The last
- 44:06Speaker 1: I heard is that the guards have now stopped speaking
- 44:08Speaker 1: to her, so she is very much in isolation. I
- 44:12Speaker 1: am told that none of the members of the family
- 44:14Speaker 1: have been able to visit or talk to her directly.
- 44:17Speaker 1: Her lawyers were there though, right a whole bunch of
- 44:19Speaker 1: hours out of each day. I wonder if Cleif Browner
- 44:23Speaker 1: had his lawyers there. Oh, that's right, he had nobody
- 44:25Speaker 1: defending him. Bashiam has offered to help the Maxwell's pro
- 44:29Speaker 1: bono to secure her bail ahead of her trial in
- 44:32Speaker 1: July of twenty twenty one. He told The Telegraph that
- 44:35Speaker 1: he volunteered to spearhead the campaign because I thought that
- 44:39Speaker 1: the dog and pony show put on by the Department
- 44:42Speaker 1: of Justice and the FBI had attempted to whip what
- 44:45Speaker 1: I think of as a lynch mob into a further frenzy.
- 44:49Speaker 1: This was all what they were trying to do as
- 44:52Speaker 1: far as controlling the narrative at the time. What they
- 44:54Speaker 1: wanted to set it up as was that Maxwell was
- 44:57Speaker 1: being targeted by the general public by the authorities, when
- 45:01Speaker 1: in reality she was just somebody who was along for
- 45:04Speaker 1: the ride, and since they lost Epstein, all the focus
- 45:08Speaker 1: was on Maxwell. Now, well, yeah, that was true. A
- 45:11Speaker 1: little bit of that is true, but that's because you
- 45:13Speaker 1: were his co conspirator. That's because you were the underboss,
- 45:17Speaker 1: pulling all of the strings when he laid out the yarn.
- 45:22Speaker 1: He added that he found it appalling that Maxwell was
- 45:24Speaker 1: still in custody when other convicted sex offenders, specifically Harvey
- 45:29Speaker 1: Weinstein and Bill Cosby, were granted bell. Neither Harvey Weinstein
- 45:33Speaker 1: or Bill Cosby have citizenship in other countries, and furthermore,
- 45:38Speaker 1: neither of them, for as powerful as they are, have
- 45:41Speaker 1: the political connections that Glaine Maxwell had. Both Weinstein and
- 45:47Speaker 1: Cosby were given bell and they were men who were
- 45:50Speaker 1: a danger to women. That can't be said of Golaine
- 45:53Speaker 1: at all. He said, yes, it can be well, maybe not.
- 45:56Speaker 1: She's a man, but she's a danger to women, that's
- 45:59Speaker 1: for damn sure. Maxwell has denied all six counts relating
- 46:03Speaker 1: to child sex, trafficking, in procurement, and perjury. In deposition
- 46:08Speaker 1: documents released Thursday, it was revealed Maxwell repeatedly lashed out
- 46:13Speaker 1: against alleged survivor Virginia Roberts. Lawyers tried to object to questioning,
- 46:18Speaker 1: and at one point pounded her fist on the table.
- 46:21Speaker 1: After the fit, she remarked, can we be clear I
- 46:24Speaker 1: didn't threaten anybody? We know that's not the case now
- 46:28Speaker 1: as well, with hindsight as our guide, and we know
- 46:31Speaker 1: that she also got charged with perjury for lying. During
- 46:34Speaker 1: this deposition, the combative Maxwell continually denied all wrongdoing. She
- 46:40Speaker 1: refused to answer questions about her sex life with Epstein,
- 46:43Speaker 1: denied she participated in orgies, and rebuff questions about underage girls,
- 46:48Speaker 1: including a thirteen year old being in Epstein's home. So again,
- 46:54Speaker 1: when she was questioned under oath. She obviously and demonstrably
- 46:58Speaker 1: lied about a lot of this stuff, so that's why
- 47:00Speaker 1: she got slapped with that perjury charge. She became agitated
- 47:06Speaker 1: and refused to answer whether she believed it was psychologically
- 47:09Speaker 1: harmful for an adult to have sex with a minor.
- 47:12Speaker 1: What are you asking me? I don't know what you
- 47:15Speaker 1: are asking, Maxwell responded, this has nothing to do with
- 47:18Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts. And you know she plays coy right, Oh
- 47:22Speaker 1: what are you asking me? I have no idea. She
- 47:24Speaker 1: graduated from Oxford, right, shouldn't she be smarter than the
- 47:27Speaker 1: rest of us who went to state school. She denied
- 47:32Speaker 1: taking nude photos of Epstein survivors, yet insisted that every
- 47:36Speaker 1: photo she took was by request and would have been
- 47:39Speaker 1: mainstream type magazine photos that could have been very happily
- 47:43Speaker 1: and expected to be displayed on your parents' mantlepiece or
- 47:47Speaker 1: grandparents mantlepiece. President Bill Clinton and Britain's Prince Andrew were
- 47:53Speaker 1: also brought up during the hours long conversation, with Maxwell
- 47:56Speaker 1: profusely denying Clinton had been to Epstein's pedophile island, and
- 48:01Speaker 1: we know that's a lie as well. Virginia Roberts told
- 48:04Speaker 1: us something completely different and my question to you is this,
- 48:07Speaker 1: who do you believe, Gallainne Maxwell and Bill Clinton or
- 48:11Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts. Maxwell is currently in jail awaiting trial on
- 48:16Speaker 1: charges that she lured girls as young as fourteen for
- 48:20Speaker 1: pedophile Epstein to abuse between ninety four and ninety seven.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors in New York claim Maxwell perjured herself in
- 48:28Speaker 1: the deposition when she was asked if Epstein had a
- 48:31Speaker 1: scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages. Maxwell flatly said,
- 48:37Speaker 1: I don't know what you are talking about, and we
- 48:39Speaker 1: all know that that's not the case, right. We know
- 48:42Speaker 1: that she's a liar, and we know that she's lied
- 48:44Speaker 1: throughout this whole entire thing and this whole operation. Get
- 48:47Speaker 1: glain out talk about an absolutely ridiculous proposition. She lashed
- 48:56Speaker 1: out when she was asked if she ever helped recruit
- 48:59Speaker 1: underage girls for aebas to abuse, saying, first of all,
- 49:02Speaker 1: you are trying to trap me. I will not be trapped.
- 49:05Speaker 1: You were asking me if I recruit. I told you no.
- 49:08Speaker 1: I totally resent and find it disgusting that you use
- 49:11Speaker 1: the word recruit. I already told you I don't know
- 49:13Speaker 1: what you were saying about that, and your implication is repulsive.
- 49:17Speaker 1: So we agree on that, Maxwell. People who do this
- 49:19Speaker 1: are repulsive, and the fact that you lied about not
- 49:22Speaker 1: doing it while calling people who do do it repulsive,
- 49:26Speaker 1: we call that projection. Young Lady Maxwell denied that Epstein
- 49:32Speaker 1: had any negative, unflattering, private, or potentially embarrassing information on her,
- 49:36Speaker 1: and her lawyer objected to the question if the billionaire
- 49:39Speaker 1: was aware of any illegal activity that she had conducted.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Maxwell claimed she had never done anything illegal, but admitted
- 49:47Speaker 1: she had a DUI on her record, stemming from an
- 49:50Speaker 1: arrest in the UK. I don't care about that. A
- 49:53Speaker 1: DUI is the sort of crime that I look at
- 49:56Speaker 1: as somebody makes a mistake. Right of course, if you're
- 49:58Speaker 1: a repeat offender, that's different. But people make mistakes, So
- 50:02Speaker 1: I won't hold that over somebody's head and look at
- 50:05Speaker 1: them as a criminal because they have a DUI on
- 50:07Speaker 1: their record. The deposition was redacted in parts, with the
- 50:12Speaker 1: names of Prince Andrew, Victoria's secret boss, Les Wexner, Alan Dershowitz,
- 50:17Speaker 1: and some mentions of the Clintons blocked out. However, they
- 50:21Speaker 1: were still identifiable through details given and previous reporting. Meanwhile,
- 50:26Speaker 1: the names of four underage survivors were not redacted in
- 50:30Speaker 1: the document, so we know all of that stuff, right.
- 50:34Speaker 1: This is just a rehash of what we already know
- 50:37Speaker 1: and for you folks to get another good laugh at
- 50:40Speaker 1: the ludicrous way the Maxwell family and her defenders went
- 50:45Speaker 1: about trying to get her out of jail. They didn't
- 50:47Speaker 1: use any sort of evidence, right, nothing that would be
- 50:50Speaker 1: even considered a receipt or evidence proving that she's not
- 50:53Speaker 1: guilty of these crimes. Instead, they went a whole different
- 50:56Speaker 1: way attack. The survivors went for technicalities and tried to
- 51:02Speaker 1: use loopholes. Well, when the facts are stacked against you
- 51:05Speaker 1: in a manner that they were, glainn. Maxwell, I don't
- 51:08Speaker 1: care what loophole you use or what technicalities you have
- 51:12Speaker 1: at your fingertips, you are going to get sunk. And
- 51:16Speaker 1: for Maxwell and all of her supporters, it couldn't have
- 51:19Speaker 1: been a very pleasant road to get where we are.
- 51:25Speaker 1: Day after day, court proceeding after court proceeding, just take
- 51:29Speaker 1: an l's and to finally culminate with the biggest dell
- 51:33Speaker 1: of all Maxwell getting sentenced. So Operation GGO get Galayin
- 51:39Speaker 1: out a gigantic failure, and the whole entire operation to
- 51:45Speaker 1: try and make Maxwell out to be the victim here. Well,
- 51:48Speaker 1: that failed as well. All right, folks, So that's gonna
- 51:51Speaker 1: do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me,
- 51:53Speaker 1: you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at protonmeil dot com.
- 51:57Speaker 1: That's bo bby c e U c c I at
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