Latest / Gentlemen Hour / Loyalty, Lies & Life Lessons: What Would YOU Do?
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- speaker-0: All right, let's give this one a third shot. All right. Hi, Uncle. How you doing? Good to see you, good to see you. ⁓ guess what? It's that ⁓ it's that favorite type of show you like. Gentleman style. You mean the speaker-1: Kragen, how's it going? The only thing I look for for two? The quickie drop it now, bro. Drop the speaker-0: Bro, in and out. ⁓ shit, we're just going right in the intro? All let's go. There you go. Nah, we're gonna do it. That's fine. That works good. All right. ⁓ you're not messing around. So guess what, Uncle? Today, a little something different. Yeah, it's quickie style, but no more twit. At least for this week. We're gonna take it, give it a break, cause I don't know. It was kinda burning me out. I know it was burning you out. I was starting to see Lockjah Louie every damn week. I'm like, hey man, we gotta put this pit bull back in his crate, bro, back in his cage, man. This little fighting dog, we can't let that with the public. Yeah, little nice little nice walk, huh? ⁓ so today we're gonna do something different. So we're doing quickie style, but what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take two stories or three stories or maybe even one story, whatever. I'm gonna take whatever popular stories are out right now and then read them, you know, and then turn it into like a question for you. Cause I love that segment. Uncle knows best. What would what would Uncle do? I don't know what the hell uncle would do. So that's why we're gonna ask him. He doesn't even know, but so we turn it into a question for Uncle. Boom, we pull in a celebrity story and into our little MO, our little, you know, our little gentleman's hour lane, I guess. Yeah. So today. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So today we're gonna start it with the Matthew Perry case. ⁓ I don't know if you know he died. He died a couple years ago, F O D'd, which is sad. ⁓ But I I think he OD'd and drowned, or he or he didn't OD, but he drowned. But either way, he was on heavy drugs and he drowned. So last week, his assistant was finally, they finally sentenced him. So his assistant was found guilty of not only helping him procure the what was the drug? Hold on. I think I have it. ⁓ ketamine. Ketamine. So he was he was not only helping him get it. He was also helping him, I guess you inject it. So he was also helping him eject ⁓ inject it as well. So he is going to jail for three years. So I mean, that's just sad all around. Matthew Perry, I mean, I heard he was always depressed after friends and all that, or maybe even during, I don't know, but I know he was like heavily on drugs and everybody's concerned. So it was sad that he did eventually pass away. But the way I wanted to turn this story to us, Louie, is I wanted to get your advice. ⁓ uncle knows best. Have you ever have you ever related kind of to the situation of the assistant where you've had a a best friend, ⁓ a family member, somebody super tight like Vic, who you're like, man, that's my boy. I'll do anything for him. have you ever first caught yourself maybe doing something illegal? Maybe you don't have to admit it. fully, you know, on air or whatever. Nah, there's a there's a statute of limitations. Yeah, you're clear. You're clear. Actually you're right, huh? Those cold cases, those ⁓ unsolved murders, th those don't ever go away. ⁓ speaker-1: Depends on your crime, bro. You don't know my life on it? Like the homeboy that that killed Tupac, bro, remember? speaker-0: Yeah, and they finally got him. In Vegas or in prison? Yeah, I thought they got him. okay. ⁓ so I wanted to relate that to you and g you know, give us a little advice. Have you ever done anything that you knew maybe it wasn't illegal, but maybe it was just bad or wrong because it's more important to back up your friend or your close relative regardless or speaker-1: And we're not. speaker-0: Yeah. You take the opposite view and like that assistant, he should have probably put his foot down, but that would have probably meant getting firing, losing his job, his livelihood. Who knows? Who knows why he didn't do it? Or maybe he felt like Matthew Perry was his friend, he was helping him out. I don't know. But you take the opposite view, which is like, nah, man, if you know or you think at all it's wrong, you need to, you know, tell that person, break their heart and tell them no, I can't help you with that or whatever, whatever. ⁓ Go for it. Go for it, Unc. I mean something. Drop that wisdom. speaker-1: I can give you I can give you the I can give you this. When I was younger, yeah, I probably would have like, hey, do whatever, it doesn't t it doesn't matter. Wanna go rob a bank, you wanna go rob a liquor store. trust me, there was some situations where some stuff is was able to able to get done. thankfully I I never got into any situation like that. ⁓ I think the obviously like I said, the the crowd that I hung out with was We did we were up to mischief. We got we got into some stuff and you know, I mean, little stuff here and there and sometimes you're in a situation where you shouldn't be. but thankfully, bro, ⁓ yeah, I I never got caught up with anything. I don't think I was ever put in a position where ⁓ I was asked or like kind of suggested that we should do something like that from anybody that was close to me. But I think I back then I would have. and yeah, obviously I ⁓ you would speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Would him yeah, when I was younger, yeah, for sure. When I was a teenager, yeah. But yeah, no, once I had cast, that stopped. That was the end of that nonsense. It wasn't even I wasn't gonna entertain it. I was, you know, trying to get caught up with anything at that point. And but I will say this, I think ⁓ I think with this homeboy, I mean, given the position he was in, I think he Yeah, he probably looked out for himself. He probably said, you know what? This is this is my job, this is my career. I mean, who knows how long they've been together and who knows what he's seen, bro? Like he what he's seen and we what he's done for this home for this guy, I mean, they they I'm pretty sure they were close. I mean, that you don't we used to have a saying when I was younger, bro, like I'm not gonna do dirt with anybody I haven't done dirt with, if that makes any sense. Like I remember like somebody new in the in the crowd. I'm not going I'm not doing stuff that I wouldn't do you know, if I if I haven't seen you do anything. I see you do something, yeah, and you see me do something, then okay, now I have some like working again. You know what I mean? So yeah. Whatever they had going on, bro, as far as you know, business wise, as far as employee, employee, employer, friend friend, friend, I don't know, ⁓ I can see where he's done it. I I guarantee you he's done it a bunch of times. Never thought nothing happened. speaker-0: Right. We both speaker-1: You know, because speaker-0: I have an I have another question for you. So I want to cut in. I want another question, which is, you know, related to that. So okay, you're saying they were probably close, they were friends. Maybe he didn't even know what he would or he knew was wrong, but it was like I'm just helping my friend. ⁓ do you think then that that punishment is pretty harsh? 'Cause it's like in the end he was helping that was his boss too. So if his boss tells him what to do, it's like, hey, if my boss is a w like, know what I mean? Like I'm not saying You should be totally just like, all right, you could do whatever because your boss told you if your boss tells you to kill somebody, you can't go kill somebody. But, you know, he was probably afraid of losing his job. It is his boss. They did have a tight relationship. I'm just saying, don't you think maybe three years in prison is a little harsh since, you know, like the person he was hurting or he ended up hurting, I guess, kinda hurt himself. You know what I mean? Like that, you know, he's the one who told him, Hey, go get this for me. Hey, you know, I knew Matthew Perry was, you know, an addict. You he either way, even if that assistant didn't get him, somebody was gonna get Matthew Perry what he needed. So it's like do you think do you think that that three years is harsh or do you think, no, man, it it's that's spot on. speaker-1: I I one, I think it's harsh. I don't think I don't think I don't think he should do any time. I think he's probably been through so much now. Just I'm sure he lost his job, probably can't find work. ⁓ now he's gone to jail for three years or whatever. But I also think like speaker-0: Yeah, I don't speaker-1: Like Matthew Perry is an adult, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Also, I do I do th I do I do see the sense where like like hey bro you didn't have to do it. You should have just said, you know what? ⁓ but that that was that was far gone, bro. I I guarantee you, after all the time everything they've done, all every everything that they've gone through, it should have stopped on the first time and it didn't. And who knows how long it was. Yeah. And then but it it just gets easier. It's just routine. It's just every day now probably. He's sending ⁓ out to go buy stuff and he's coming back. Like Yeah, you're like that's just it's everyday life, bro. speaker-0: Exactly. I think that summed it up perfect though. It became a routine. He probably wasn't even like, ⁓ I'm break I'm not breaking the law I'm just this is just a this is just a Tuesday, bro. I gotta go get this fool's stuff. speaker-1: Who knows how he was compensating on, bro? speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, which I'm sure great. speaker-1: I mean if you're living maybe they're living together. Maybe he's got a little backhouse or something, some little Kato Kane in action, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like every everything is everything that is his life, bro, it it all factors in and some people are they're not willing to lose that job. Maybe, you know, 'cause he he's easily replaced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You what I mean? If it ain't like speaker-0: Easily. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Have you ever seen that movie? shit, what is it? ⁓ the ones where they're Robin Banks in Boston. The ⁓ the town? Of course. Of course you ⁓ do you just hate good movies or what? So there's this one scene. They're like two tough dudes. It's ⁓ Ben Afflack and ⁓ Jeremy Renner. speaker-1: Of course you haven't. speaker-0: And they're like two southy tough dudes from Boston or whatever. And so Ben Athlett comes one day to to that renter. He's sitting on the couch just watch T V and he comes in, he says, Hey, ⁓ I need your help with something, but you can't ask why we're doing it. Whose car are we gonna take? And you can't ever tell anybody about it. Are you in? ⁓ I need So it's like speaker-1: Never ask me about a hurts him. speaker-0: ⁓ I Could you ever could you ever be that down that you don't know what you're gonna do? You know it's gonna be something bad, but you're like, I don't give a were you ever in that in that head frame of like, I don't give a fuck, let's go do it, you know what I mean? Or did you always have a little caution, even when you were young? speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, yeah. No, I was very I was very cautious. Remember I told you I'm a rule follower. But I I I I would always tell people, Hey, I'm I'm down, I got your back. Like, you know, I had homies that I've been down with since day one. But yeah, I would always tell them I had her back, but thankfully nothing ever went down. I didn't speaker-0: ⁓ I didn't even see ⁓ Was it way was it way back? Yeah. No, no, I meant like yeah, you say like I had speaker-1: Bro, when I was when I was young Back to back, way, way back. speaker-0: Yeah. Like call me and let me know how it went. speaker-1: Yeah, no, like trust me dude, like there there was some there was some crazy house parties that you know, we ended up in some bad situations and ⁓ thankfully we got out of it. But at the I I I think at that point I kind of knew like like I knew the limit to what we were kind of capable of. Right, right. I knew that like I don't think I had any homies that like, Hey, for let's go rob a bank. I mean, like I don't yeah, and I'm like roll with anybody like that. So I think I was like, Hey yeah, I got your back no matter what. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like Yeah, I get I get what you're saying. speaker-1: Like I did have this. ⁓ speaker-0: 'Cause what's the worst? Like you know, it's not the bad bo Yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: Exactly. And we let our wounds walk away, whatever. Or you know, you go toss some fools or whatever, but yeah. Yeah. speaker-0: That's funny. That's good. Okay. All right. How about this story now? I know ⁓ I brought this one because I know you're like you love him as a rapper. You s you said, I love tik I love Takashi 6ix9, but your boy Takashi 6ix9ine. So now he's like he's always on all these streamer. I was I don't know if you see him on YouTube, but whatever, all the popular streamers, he like goes on and streams with them. So last week or the week before, he was on one of the streams and he was telling the guy, whoever he was with. ⁓ he was telling him, ⁓ you know, my girlfriend, or th or the guy was asking him, like, ⁓ you excited for the baby or whatever, what are you guys having? He said, ⁓ we don't ⁓ we don't know what we're having yet, but if it's not a boy, we're going straight to the clinic to abort that sucker. So I'm like, damn, for starters that's pretty hardcore. But but to a lesser degree Do you feel like that's that far off on how most men think? Because I know for me as a young man, that's all I wanted. As soon as I started having kids, I was like, ⁓ I want boys. And if I could have had two boys, three boys, five boys, I would have been like, Yep, sign me up. You know, give me that starty give me that starting five, the late click beta. The future starting five. Yeah. But, you know, obviously as I got older and had daughters, I would never have replaced them for ⁓ you know, two boys or whatever. I I was content. But Initially as a young man I thought I gotta have a boy, you know, who's gonna take care you know, back you know, remember back in the day with a ranch, you need a boys, bro. Those are who that's ranch. That's who worked the land, you know what I mean? Girls were girls, you couldn't do nothing with ⁓ But a boy, that's a that's that's income right there you're bringing in. You know what I mean? speaker-1: That's a leg on the table. speaker-0: Yeah. So I anyways that whole you know, whatever perpetuation of manlyhood came to me. So I'll I'll admit I was a little like, ⁓ yeah, yeah. I but my question to you, of course, because of course what would Uncle do is did you ever think that way when you were younger? and do you think that that's, you know, healthy to want to like, I want a boy or I want a girl, 'cause then if it doesn't happen, you know, it's you know, who it could affect your relationship or whatnot. speaker-1: No yeah. speaker-0: Or do you think ⁓ it's innocent? There's nothing wrong with hoping for something, but as long as you love that kid when it comes, you know, who cares? You know what I mean? Who ha where do you ⁓ where do you land on this unk? speaker-1: First off, in in this day and age you shouldn't be saying some off the wall kind of crap like that. Hey, but first off, no hold on. Second off, hey Takaji, hit me up, bro. Let's come on the show. Yeah, yeah. No, you know what? I think I've I think I've told you this and I'm pretty sure I've told this on the show. I I don't know if I told this in person, but I I never I never thought about having kids. speaker-0: ⁓ dang. Yeah. speaker-1: It never crossed my mind when I was younger. I don't think I ever said I I wanna be a family man or I wanna have a wife or I wanna have kids. So it didn't it didn't cross my mind until I found out I was gonna be a dad. Like that's when I like, ⁓ crap, like you know, and at that point I I didn't care, bro. I think I s I think I I've said this before, like I just as long as the as a kid's healthy, as long as there's no complications with, you know, with the mom, with the with with the kid. ⁓ yeah. I mean I'm just that that's pretty much all I ever wanted. Once I once I realized like, hey, I'm gonna be a dad, something something's gonna happen and I wouldn't I would never ever say some off the wall stuff like that. Cause like I said, I don't care if it's a boy, if it's a girl and love ⁓ love ⁓ love ⁓ either way, bro. He's good. He's real good. Either either either either one or the other they bring something to the table, bro, they're just they're just great in their own way and they bring you some sort of a of ⁓ what's the word? Like they they they're they're they're genuine. And right, right. You enjoy ⁓ for what they are, bro. Your your kids speaker-0: I do have one question though, one follow up for you, 'cause I know I've heard you say before, like maybe talking about Nico, you'll like, Yeah, that you know, he would he's the next or he'll continue our little bran, you know, my little branch of the family or whatever. So after you had shoot, what's your older Cass. Sorry. After you had Cass and then you found out Laura was pregnant before you knew it was a boy or girl, say it ended up being a girl. and your s your middle child was a girl. Would you and Natalia now sh now Laura is pregnant with your third, at that point, would you have been like, Hey, this might be my last kid? I really hope it's a boy to continue my, you know, little Aguilar branch. Or after two girls, would you have been like, ⁓ honestly, I'm good, bro. If it dies here with me, it dies here with Let's let's keep Let's keep this grill train going. speaker-1: can I can give you I can give you this answer right off the top of my head. ⁓ I'm an Aguilar bro so there there there is no this might be my last one. The bloodline is very very speaker-0: Yeah Yeah, bro. S one time I just looked at a chick and I thought I knocked her up, bro. speaker-1: Like ⁓ man with that pudge. No I speaker-0: I looked at her, she was three months pregnant. speaker-1: She was like, Whoa, I have morning sickness. No, you know what's funny is that ⁓ when when Cass was born, I I I think I've said this ⁓ a bunch of times and I'll say it again. Like, I mean she changed my life. She she completely made me a different person and helped me grow into ⁓ a parent. And when I found out Laura was pregnant, ⁓ the same thing, bro. It was like I just I as long as The baby's healthy, as long as there's coup no complications, whatever. and when we found out it was a boy, I was like, all right, cool. This is, you something new for me. And I I actually I I wouldn't have minded either way because I I loved everything about Cass as a baby and as a as a little kid. And I said, Okay, something new. And then yeah, I'm like, okay, now it was weird because then you have it it goes from you know, you're doing the little princess thing with the kid with the kids with Cass. And then now you're into like Hot Wheels and Marsh Drugs. Yeah. That's I'm like, hell yeah, this is dope, right? Like this stuff I I can't really Yeah. And then, you know, with Natalia I was like, Yeah, you know, either whatever it's whatever it is, same thing. I was healthy and no complications and you know, she was a she's obviously she was a girl and and you know, he now the factory's shut down because I I I shut it down, but ⁓ yeah, there's all there's there that I I'm cool, two girls and a boy, the bloodline continues speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: You know, we'll see what happens. speaker-0: So the factory's shut down for for good or what? Yeah the speaker-1: fact they shut down for good. ⁓ boy, that conveyor belt was thrown out the window and then somebody line is red tagged. speaker-0: She ho la. speaker-1: Put the fuse pull the fuses out of the disconnect, homie. speaker-0: Yeah, it's just ⁓ there's just a a for sale site on the outside of the building. speaker-1: Even that bro, there's a there's there's a there's a speaker-0: Burnt the building down or what? speaker-1: It was just a pile of rubble. speaker-0: Damn. Okay. All right. ⁓ hey, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. That and that's what I that's what I figured you would say. That's a that's a responsible answer. I like it. I wish I could responsible. I wish I could couple with that. You know, I mean I just I don't have that in me, brother. But all right. So then the the last thing I wanted, just a little quick a little quick ⁓ a little quick advice. I I finally saw a story which I hadn't seen in a minute about our boy, both of our boys punch, you know, the monkey. So speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Been laying low, but the boy's got a crew now. So but I think he's having trouble with the his girlfriends. I think I think he has two girlfriends right now, but supposedly they don't like that he's always dragging that little stuffed animal around. So my little my little quick question to you is a little unclittle advice. If your son was a little older, like Nick right now, and he wanted to take a stuffed animal to school every day. speaker-1: I think speaker-0: Would you be like, ⁓ man, I you know what? I I gotta tell this kid nah, this is gonna kill him, you know, socially and they're gonna label him a nerd. Or would you just be like, hey, I gotta let my boy express himself. If he's gonna do it, I'm gonna back him up. Let's go. Let's do it. If I gotta fight somebody's dad over it, I gotta fight someone's dad. Let's go. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, catching ca catching cases for a stuffed animal? speaker-0: For a stuffed animal. What what would you what would you do if you were in punches situation? speaker-1: Yeah. I mean I'm a big believer in supporting your kids. Right. But I'm a I'm also a big believer, bro. Like you gotta you gotta cut certain things off, bro. Like he's in high school. If you made it through f elementary and I didn't say anything. speaker-0: What do you mean? Yeah. speaker-1: I mean you see him bro, he's very like to himself and he's kinda like Yeah, yeah. Always kinda like looking around for stuff or whatever. So I don't I don't think he would be taking his little stuffed animal anymore. But speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, of course, of course he would it. But I'm just saying how far would you take this whole I support, yeah. But to a point. Okay. Honestly, that's good. I I thought you were gonna not be honest and be like, ⁓ you know, I'm either I'm all for it or I'm all against it. But like, you know, I that was a good answer. I could tell that was the truth. Like, hey, I wanna support your kid, but come on, enough is enough, man. Yeah. You gotta cut it off. You gotta cut off. Okay, that was perfect. speaker-1: Yeah, bro, you gotta come on, you gotta cut that cord. speaker-0: ⁓ guess what? That that's the new format. Look at that. Twenty-one minutes. That's a new format, Uncle. We're gonna take a couple stories. So now that I see we kind of go through it quick, maybe I'll take like next time another add another story or two. No, no lists, no, no lists like that. But ⁓ okay, that's gonna be the new thing. We ⁓ we take some stories and then we try to relate it to ourselves. All right. ⁓ all right, Uncle, so that's it. you good? speaker-1: Nineteen store. speaker-0: Any ⁓ outro or anything? Yeah, you any anything for the fans or nothing? Yeah, because you know we do no outros out here. speaker-1: We hey, what do you let me ask you this? What do you got in the finals? speaker-0: ⁓ basketball? ⁓ I know. ⁓ the Spurs, easy. Light work. Either a slut. They did? Yeah. I I still got ⁓ in No, I I they there's just a little shell shook. But I got ⁓ in five. In five at six at the most. What about you? speaker-1: Actually. Yeah, I I I said dispersion five, but I don't know, man. You know speaker-0: They'll they'll wake up. They'll wake up. It's just it's ⁓ they're still young, bro. They're still young, so they're a little shell ship. Can't lose to that horrible team of Knicks, bro, come on. speaker-1: I'll I'll I'll die before I see an Eastern Conference champ. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, I hate the E I hate the Easter conference, bro. Yeah, they're glam over here. Alright brother, guess what? That's it. Easy in, easy out. Hey, let's get in, let's get out. No DNA left behind, brother, if you know what I mean. No, actually you don't. Shit, I get that. speaker-1: These side. Not mine. Not mine. speaker-0: Alright ⁓