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EP 53: 2026 NFL Draft Realistic Dream Draft Picks For The Buccaneers, Seahawks, and Rams · 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast

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3 lifelong friends, 6 trusty balls and endless NFL ticks.
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Welcome to Three guys 6 Balls NFL Podcast.
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Welcome to episode 53 of Three guys 6 Balls NFL Podcast.
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I'm your host Joel and I'm here with my two Co host, Will and
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Avery. And joining us today is Avery's
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cousin Gavin. So Gavin, last time you were on
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the show, I wasn't here and Avery totally screwed it up and
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none of your audio or your video uploaded.
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So I had to cut the episode to make it sound like it was just
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Will and Avery the entire time. I haven't received any
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notifications yet saying it's not recording you.
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So hopefully this time you'll actually make your first
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appearance on the show. So you'll at least be on the
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show for a couple of seconds, I think.
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How you doing today Gavin? Pretty good, pretty good.
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Ready to talk about the draft? Yeah, so today we're going to
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still talk about the NFL draft, but we're going to do it a
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little bit different than we have been.
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So we're going to focus a little bit more on our teams this week.
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So this episode will have a little bit more emphasis on the
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Rams, Seahawks, and Bucks, but within that, we're still going
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to give you guys some information on several players
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in this draft class. But however, before we do that,
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I do have a question for Gavin, who is a Seahawks fan.
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So my question for you, Gavin, is why do you think the Seahawks
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are letting Kenneth Walker become a free agent?
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And do you think it's the right move?
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I'm very, very torn about letting Kenneth Walker walk.
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He has some of the best like eyes in the league as a running
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back. He can shift the run from one
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side of the field to the other and get a 20 yard breakaway on a
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play that looks dead. But to keep him we'd probably
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have to pay around 35 million in the next two years.
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We have to pay Jackson Smith and Jigba, Ernest Jones, Leonard
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Williams, Ochina Nuosu, Devin Witherspoon and Jason Myers.
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So with Etienne being a free agent and Algier, I think it's
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the better option to let him walk, pick up one of them and
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have a dual running back threat with Chardonnay.
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Yeah, I agree with you. I, I think the Seahawks view JSN
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as a more valuable piece to their long term success, at
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least on offense. And I think they realize they
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have to pay him soon. So because of the monster season
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he just had and him being eligible for a contract
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extension, I think they knew that they just couldn't afford
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to keep both guys. And I think they chose JSN over
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Kenneth Walker. I don't know if Will or Avery,
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you guys have any thoughts on that?
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Is Charbonne going to be back by the beginning of next season?
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I've, I think I've heard that he wasn't, but if we pick someone
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up it shouldn't affect the season too terribly, but I he
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might not be. I mean, just ACL tears take more
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than 14 months to recover, so I'm just just wondering, he told
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his Achilles. I get that it's different
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injury, but I'm just saying that.
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I want to ask before we jump into the rest of it.
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We touched on this the last time he was on, but obviously none of
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it recorded. Well, it recorded and just none
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of it got saved. What I don't remember that I
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don't remember? That, yeah, I know.
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No one is only only the three of us have a distant collective
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memory of it. It could have been a dream.
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So Gavin, you live in North Carolina, you're a brother, and
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your dad are all Panthers fans. You're surrounded by Panthers
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fans. Tell us a little bit why you
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decided to go against the grain and how long you've been a
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Seahawks fan. So the 2013 Super Bowl win, I
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saw the Seahawks won the Super Bowl and I was like, that's a
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pretty cool team. And during that offseason, I
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realized I just wanted to be a little different, you know,
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oppose everyone else in the household.
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And the Seahawks had just won a Super Bowl.
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So I was like, that's they're probably a pretty good team, I
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should root for them. And then the next season is when
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we threw the goal line interception to lose the Super
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Bowl. So that was that was a rough
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first season. But since then, yeah, I've
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wrapped them. We're just glad you didn't pick
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the Panthers. Yeah.
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Me too. You guys have any more Seahawks
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questions for Gavin before we get started?
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I mean, I've got some personal feelings, but I can keep those.
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I can keep this to myself I guess.
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We all know it's about the backwards pass.
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It was a fumble. Will you can let it out.
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Just I mean, I mean, the whistle, all things considered,
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the whistle Blues, the play was over.
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And then what's his face picked the ball up out of the niceties
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in his own heart. And sure, I guess we're
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rewarding nice people, but you can pick it up to score the two
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point and the whistle blew. And then the fact that they came
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on, well, the whistle never blew when you can hear it.
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And the replay, I mean, if we're going to gaslight people,
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gaslight appropriately. I just I mean, I think the play
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was over. Ram should have won that game.
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That's the opportunity. If the Rams would have won that
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game, it would have changed the entire outcome of the NFL
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season. Absolutely agree.
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There's this meme that floated around in 2017.
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It was right after North Carolina won the championship.
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And there was this rebound that Kennedy Meeks, the Carolina
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player, got. And it shows that like briefly
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his hand was on the out of bounds line, like briefly when
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he had possession of the ball. So it technically, if you were
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reviewing it, it would have been out of bounds on them, but they
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got it because it just didn't get reviewed.
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And there was this big thing. I mean, they they won the game
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like convincingly. And there was this meme and it
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was it made it look like it was very like serious and dramatic.
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They're like, you know, there's a lot of talk about Kennedy
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Meeks his hand being on the line.
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But if we actually take a closer look and it showed is like the
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slides on Instagram and it shows it like keep zooming in further
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and further into his hand. And then when you get to the
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last slide, it shows just a big ass championship ring on the
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finger. And I just whenever, whenever I
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hear any like play like it should have been this way.
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I'm like but if we take a closer look and it just shows like get
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wrecked dude, get right. Yeah, and that's why I was
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finished it with. There was still time in the game
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that wasn't the overtime play. There was still time in the game
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the Rams could have won if they were supposed to win and they
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just didn't so. Maybe next year.
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Looking pretty good right now. True, but you know league season
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hasn't even started yet so who knows.
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All right, well, let's move on to the NFL draft talk for this
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episode. So we've each prepared two first
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round players and two non first round players.
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We want our teams to draft. And So what we're going to do is
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we'll take turns talking about who we want our teams to draft
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and it'll give you guys a little bit of information about these
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guys along the way. So we're going to start with the
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first round players that we want our teams to draft.
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And Gavin, because you're our guest, why don't you get us
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started? Who is a player that you want
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your team, the Seattle Seahawks, to draft in the first round of
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the 2026 NFL Draft? Oh my.
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Hold on guys, I'm about to shit my pants.
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I have got to go. OK, I'll come and mute my mic.
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Pause it, but don't but leave this in.
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I am definitely leaving this. In Sorry, Dwayne.
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For the audience at home, just know that there has been so much
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stuff that we have not been recording for that was gold.
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Like a fire at my place. Like my roommate running in the
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background with a with two different pans on literal fire.
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I turn the camera around 'cause there's this, there's these
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French doors that open up to our deck and the off the deck is
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like a 8 foot drop onto the, the grass.
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Any three just drops the pan down and Will and Joel are
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looking at it and it drops it down and you can see this pyre
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of flames just shoot up. The whole house is smoking.
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He's just making something and he's just using way too much
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frigging oil. And so like everything just
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catches on fire. And I think the like the the
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electric, the electricity went out and like the Internet went
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out. But I wish there's a lot of
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good. Stuff so bad.
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If we had that on camera, I would put that as like our intro
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video. That would be the intro.
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Yeah, this podcast is fire. Yeah, that was a good one for
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sure. We had some rough starts to the
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first like I swear like 8 episodes like like it was never
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like we had, we experienced all the difficulties in one episode.
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It was like, no, there will be 8 different things that you don't
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even know about yet and we will sprinkle them out into eight
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different episodes. So 8 times we'll have to be like
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Fig troubleshoot some new problem.
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I will say it is pretty impressive that we've stuck
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around this long and I have to credit Joel.
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Joel has been the one driving and pushing the ship.
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So as far as podcasts go, I feel like a lot of them, you know,
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fizzle out within the first several months, but we've been
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keeping it going so. All right, well, Will's back.
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Will, did you make it to the bathroom?
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Yeah, so I do this thing called pre pushing where I start
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pushing on the way. That way, as soon as cheeks hit
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the seat or close to it, we're getting projectile and now we
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were out. Efficiency, efficiency,
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efficiency. I have, I have a 5 year old who
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turned 6 in a couple weeks and a three or a three-year old who
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turns 4 to later half of this year.
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And when you have two small children, you get this, Avery
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doesn't, even though I, you know, dad buys full that whole
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thing. You don't have a lot of time
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because the more time you're away, the more they're just
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going to get into something. Sharpies, pens, markers,
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whatever it may be. So you got to you got to walk in
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prepared, ready to go. Also, I changed my shirt because
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it was just a the pre pushing. We got it all dangerous.
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So you got I got it all sweaty. And so we're had the heavy
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sweater pull, you push. Now we're back.
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You got a little something on the shirt on the way.
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No, just just perspiration. No precipitation, just
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perspiration. All right, well, all of our
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listeners learned a little something extra about Will that
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they did not need to know today, but all right, Gavin.
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Pre pushing you're wasting time. That's all I'm saying here.
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It's a dangerous game all right, start slow.
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But hey, when you get a when you're a master pre pusher, hey
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does not work in public restrooms.
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The last thing you want to do is pre push, walk into a Walmart
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and then the stalls are full. Then you are.
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You don't know. It's an unfamiliar situation.
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You need to know exactly. Like if you were blind you could
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go in and navigate through if it's dark.
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You have to know the lay of the land before pre pushing.
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Otherwise you're just being very irresponsible.
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Everyone knows that. Oh.
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OK, OK. All right, all right, Gavin,
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give us a first round player that you want the Seahawks to
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draft. So on the Seahawks offensive
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line, there's a guy named Anthony Bradford.
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If you. Look him up, he's terrible.
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Yeah, if you look him up, you'll find upwards of 15 photos of him
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standing, watching the backfield as the play's going downfield.
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He he doesn't do a thing so I'd like the Seahawks to draft the
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offensive tackle Emmanuel Pregnant from Oregon.
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His run blocking is really where he really where he excels.
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He is pretty average pass blocking.
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If Kenneth Walker does end up leaving, whoever the new guy is
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will appreciate not having Bradford.
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Only thing that I've seen is his foot placements and like
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adjustments, so if there's someone like a Jared Verse going
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against him, that'll probably tilt in versus favor.
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But other than that he looks like a great run blocker.
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He'll be a fit, a great fit for the team if we end up getting
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him. The one thing I like about
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Pregnant is I think he's got a ton of experience and I think
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he's NFL ready. So like Emmanuel, Pregnant spent
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six seasons in college, three with Wyoming, 2 with USC and one
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with Oregon. And I think because of his
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experience, what you get with him is a high floor player who
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can step in and start for you right away.
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Like, I don't know if he has the most potential.
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I don't think he has as much potential as some of these other
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guys, but I think he's more pro ready than a lot of these other
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guys at his position. So if your team's looking for a
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player who you know where you don't have to develop him a ton
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on the offensive line, I think Emmanuel Pregnant is going to be
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a great option for them. I mean, as an Oregon fan, this
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guy's been awesome. He was a great pick up this last
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offseason. Definitely helped the run game a
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ton. They had, I mean, they had a
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stacked, stacked running backroom.
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I mean, to the point where in the college football video game
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they had Makai Hughes, who came out of Tulane, transferred to
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Oregon, they had them like rated 94 overall.
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I think he touched the ball five times the entire season just
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because of how deep the room was.
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And even then, like every single one of those running backs is
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going to end up getting drafted. And I think I'm a huge part of
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that is the run blocking. And Pregnon was a huge, huge
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boost to the line. I mean, Oregon's kind of in that
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stratosphere now where they kind of just reload rather than, you
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know, getting, you know, new guys and developing them.
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I mean, they are still doing that, but with the transportal
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transfer transportal, the transfer portal in a state that
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it is where everyone's swapping around every year.
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It is it is nice to have gotten this guy, especially out of USC.
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So I, I think he'd be a sweet, a sweet pick up for the the
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Seahawks. You said that on purpose, didn't
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you? Not at first.
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The second time, 100%, yeah. Will got anything to add?
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His combine breakdown is very good for him at 1st and
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production score 8 and athleticism and 1st overall.
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Again, we talked about this last week.
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I'm not sure it's 52140. He's a guard, right?
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Who cares? I don't care how fast he can run
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40 yards. I care how fast he can run 10
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yards. And his his his 10 yards split
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to 182, which is a bit on the slower side.
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But if they are able to retain Kenneth Walker and when you saw
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it in the Super Bowl, clear as day, Walker is one of the most
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patient backs out there. He will walk his way to the
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offensive line so they can set up their blocks and then burst
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through. And so they didn't they need to
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they will need to keep that in mind as they're trying to find
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the right pieces is that you're going to have to get someone
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patient, especially if we get a a little bit slower of a guard
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take it in and pull for us. And I like, I like the fit I do
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because because Bradford has literal Facebook, Instagram,
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social media pages set up just to showcase how bad he is.
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And I, I scroll through Instagram rails and it's just,
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oh, look at this Bradford highlight.
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And it's just him within block after block.
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It's in like like multiple pages of it.
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So so that this is a good this is a good use of their first
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round pick. All right, well, let's go to
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Avery. Avery, who's the first round
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player you want the Bucks to draft?
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Oh, I mean, ideally it would be Kenyan Siddiq, but I think he
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did way too well in the combine and I was hoping he would hold
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out a little bit more to not be as impressive to go down to
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15th, but I think he will go a lot earlier.
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So in the meantime, I'm hoping that Keldrick Falk will still be
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available. As someone who lived in Alabama
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the past six years, this dude was just impressive to me,
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especially considering he was on a very unimpressive team that
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entire six years. I think this guy is a high
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motor. Just as far as having another
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pass rusher. This guy, I thought he was great
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and I think I think he had enough.
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I guess I don't know what you call it perceived faults where I
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think he could fall down far enough to 15th.
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I feel like he could be picked up, you know, at the bottom of,
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you know, like top 10 for how good I think he is.
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And I'm just hoping that it's just one of those kind of, I
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want to say diamond in the rough.
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I mean, he's still clearly a first round pick, but if we can
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get him, if Sadiq is not available, I think he would be
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awesome. I know we talked about him on a
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earlier episode, but I just think his motor more than
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anything, just that relentless pursuit.
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I, I think he's, I think he's great also.
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I mean, not even just as a pass rusher, but just as a, as a run
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stopper, as just kind of a, a gadget kind of player.
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He reminds me of AI. Don't want to say a poor man's,
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but a poorer man's Sonny Styles to me.
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Maybe not, as you know, as athletic or as versatile, but at
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pick 15 that I, I would, I'd be ecstatic if we got him.
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Yeah, I'm going to agree with you, Avery, but only if
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something happens before the draft.
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So I think I would only want Keldrick Falk if there's already
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another established pass rusher on the roster.
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Because if you're drafting Keldrick Falk to come in and be
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the guy right away. That's just not what Keldrick
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Falk is right now. It's going to take time for
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Keldrick Falk as a pass rusher. So I think if the Bucks were to
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go into free agency and get a guy like Trey Hendrickson and
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then draft Keldrick Falk, I would like that a lot more than
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if they didn't bring in anyone and drafted Keldrick Falk.
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Because with Keldrick Falk, you're going to have have to
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wait probably at least two years, like 2-3 years for him to
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to get his potential out as a pass rusher because he's not
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going to come in right away and get 10 sacks as a rookie.
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He's just not. So I think they would have to
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get more of an established pass rusher on the team in order for
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me to be excited about them drafting Celtic Falk, at least
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right away. I could say that.
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No, yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I I guess I'm a
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little higher on him. I think he could produce a
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little quicker. I mean, I don't think he's
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necessary. He's 20 years old.
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I don't think he would be, you know, you know, in his prime at
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the beginning. But I've just been high on him
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for a little while. So a little bit of this is, you
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know, subjective, but I like to think it's objective.
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I think in a division where you're facing Dijon twice a
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year, you're facing either if they resigned Rico Duddle or
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Chuba Hubbard facing Tyler Shug as well.
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He seems to be adult threat. Definitely picking up someone on
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your defensive line and like you said picking up Trey Hendrickson
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to get him developed as well. I think with this pick up, the
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Bucks could definitely take back the NFC South and.
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The Bucks are going to do that anyway.
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That last year was a fluke. It was a fluke, right?
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Will give us a first round player you want the Rams to
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draft. So they trade away their pick
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that I really liked and I wanted to talk about more, but we still
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pick 13 and that is fine. And to put a little bit more
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contact, It's a realistic guy. We're not just obviously we've
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talked about what, 19820 guys or so so far and the top ten.
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Oh, I really want them to get this guy.
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That's just not realistic. Well, you know how spoiled you
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just sound right there? You know how spoiled you just
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sounded? The Rams made it to the NFC
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Championship Game. We only have picked 13.
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That's fine. Yeah, well, they could have a
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higher pick had you guys beat the Falcons.
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Sorry, we didn't. We wanted to screw you guys
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over. I mean, there's that anyway.
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And so we don't have a slide for this guy.
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But but then and if you look at, OK, let me tell you what I don't
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want first, because I think that's going to be easier.
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I don't want Makai Lemon at 13, don't want it.
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I don't. I don't want Jordan Tyson gets
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thrown in there a lot. I don't that is a terrible pick
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13 with all the injuries at the risk of of repeated last week,
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German McCoy, that wonderful man that is a man specifically I
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don't want him at pick 13 again because of injuries.
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There's a guy if they do end up making a pick at 13, offensive
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tackle from Georgia Monroe Freeling.
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We don't have a slide for him. I didn't bring him up unless you
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do have a slide for him. He had he is he is shooting up
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the boards right now because of his his athleticism and his his
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showing of the combine. He ran A49340 with a 1.7110 yard
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split as an offensive tackle. And by the way, this guy is 6
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foot seven, 315 lbs and so he's a big man who can move pretty
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well here at 33 1/2 inch vertical jump in a 9 foot 7
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broad jump. So he's quite athletic for a
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tackle. The way the game is going, he's
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he's like the tackle that they're they're molding people
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into long frame, long limbed, incredibly athletic.
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So if they do make a play, I don't think he's a day one guy.
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And that's my problem with pick 13.
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I think the top 15 or so, just like the NBA, right, The NBA
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lottery pick, you're picking a guy you want to come in and have
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valuable minutes in the game. And I view the same way in the
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NFL if you're picking in the top 15, which again, this isn't the
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Rams pick, this is the Falcons pick.
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But still, we're in the position where we're picking.
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I want a guy who's going to come in and produce.
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And not that Monroe Freeling couldn't.
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I just would rather them trade back into the first round 2O
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about pick 29 where they were at actually probably a bit earlier,
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right around pick 20 or so. And this is where I would like
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them to draft Ty Simpson. I do not want them to draft Ty
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Simpson at pick 13. I think it is an overreach for
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him. They can get more value out of
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trading back to somebody like the Steelers who is on the
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shortlist to draft Ty Simpson. I like Ty Simpson a lot.
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I I like that one of his biggest flaws is that he's uncomfortable
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in the pocket. When it starts collapsing, he
20:42
starts to freak out. And who better to have right in
20:46
front of him? Learning from the Matthew
20:48
Stafford, I mean, that is like, that is like the guy to have
20:53
pocket presence who's not going to get rattled, who's not going
20:56
to scramble. The fact that he had any
20:58
scrambling yards at NFC Championship game shocked me.
21:01
But he's not looking. I mean, he will make a 1 yard
21:04
pass when he could have ran for five.
21:06
Like, that's the kind of quarterback Matthew Stafford is.
21:09
And so to get him in in the late first round, have him have him
21:12
sit behind Stafford for a couple years.
21:14
It's not pretty, it's not sexy. It's not how you want to spend
21:17
your first round pick. But even the Raiders are saying
21:20
they're going to try to bring in a veteran and have Mendoza sit
21:23
behind him. And that's the first pick.
21:26
And so it's not really what you think of when you think of the
21:28
second quarterback off the board, the number 2 quarterback
21:30
that I would I would love for it in the late first round, not at
21:33
13, but later on to take Ty Simpson.
21:36
I don't think he makes it to the second round.
21:38
So if you're trying to trade out of the first round, in the
21:40
second round, you're just going to be out of luck.
21:41
And there's not a lot of other quarterbacks I like in this
21:44
draft. And then just trying to see what
21:46
you have because it's already wasn't your pick.
21:48
So you're already playing with house money.
21:50
And so you saw it at Alabama and, and historically, pocket
21:54
passing quarterbacks from Alabama have not done that well
21:57
in the NFL. That is a statement I'm very
21:59
comfortable making and so. What about the what about that
22:03
one guy you know the the guy that you know that.
22:08
What about Greg Becker? Was his name.
22:11
Yep. I know what I'm saying.
22:12
That other, the other one, yeah, they're also.
22:16
Pocket passing quarterbacks Exactly.
22:19
Coming out of Alabama with John David Booty.
22:22
No, he was. No, that was just Alabama.
22:23
That wasn't USC. Was it USC.
22:25
It doesn't matter. It truly doesn't matter anyway.
22:27
This is a big kind of like later in the first round, but they
22:29
were required in trading. Otherwise we're going to get
22:32
stuck with a Mackay Lemon or a Jordan Tyson to make me just
22:37
mad. But hey, if, if, if anyone if
22:41
anyone from Ohio State drops. Well, not anyway.
22:44
If any of the top 4 from Ohio State drop to to 13, go and
22:48
snatch them up. I would not hate a Cardinal Tate
22:51
at 13. There's just no way.
22:53
I wouldn't hate it at 15 either. Yeah, that'd be great.
22:56
I wouldn't hate it if the buck strapped in one of those top
22:58
four guys in the sixth round. I wouldn't hate that.
23:00
Yeah, exactly, Exactly. That's great.
23:03
There's just so much fluid in the.
23:04
Situation. Yeah, so there's that.
23:07
There's a whole lot of wind for a lot of content.
23:09
I mean, I think there's a strong chance that the Rams do go after
23:12
Ty Simpson in the first round. It would make sense because Ty
23:15
Simpson is someone I think that needs to sit for at least a year
23:17
before he starts in the NFL, and being drafted by the Rams would
23:20
be the perfect situation for him.
23:22
He can sit behind Stafford, learn for at least a year, and
23:24
then come in and start after Stafford finally decides to
23:27
retire. If Ty Simpson goes to a team
23:29
like The Jets or the Browns and comes in and starts right away,
23:32
I don't see that going well at all.
23:34
He needs to go to a team like the Rams where he can sit for at
23:37
least a year and learn. There's some really good things
23:39
that show up on tape with Ty Simpson, such as his pre snap
23:42
adjustments. He looks like a vet when he's
23:43
doing his pre snap adjustments, but he also shows you why he's
23:47
going to need some time to learn the NFL game.
23:49
He holds onto the ball too long, he takes unnecessary sacks, he
23:52
tries to make throws he can't make instead of just throwing
23:54
the ball away. He's got the potential, but what
23:57
he lacks is the experience. So I think the perfect situation
24:00
for a guy like Ty Simpson would be to go to the Rams and sit
24:03
behind Matthew Stafford. So I think it's a real
24:05
possibility. Problem is, he's also been
24:07
linked to the Steelers to sit behind Rodgers for a year if
24:10
Rodgers decides to come back, and there's and the Lions as
24:13
well to sit behind Goth for a few years.
24:16
And so he's late to a few teams in the first round who don't
24:18
need a lot of pieces. So it's going to be a bit of a
24:22
dogfight and that's a middle late into the 1st to see where
24:25
he goes. I like the idea of sitting him
24:28
behind Stafford for a year, not not getting him started because
24:31
I think that's that's become a big problem in the NFL is you
24:35
play these quarterbacks straight out of the draft.
24:37
They don't do well because they haven't had NFL training.
24:40
And then you sit them. It's the problem with CJ Stroud.
24:43
They keep trying him. He was a win then quarterback,
24:46
he they figured out his game and he can't adapt.
24:49
And that's why I like Bryce Young more than CJ Strat.
24:53
He's kind of, he's adapting, he's growing, he's fitting into
24:56
the NFL while CJ Stroud is regressing almost.
25:00
And so I like, you know, drafting a quarterback to sit
25:02
him. It's what happened with Sam
25:03
Darnold. He wasn't that good in the
25:05
beginning, you know, sat, moved around, figured out the NFL and
25:09
then he's bought out the past two years.
25:11
I think it's a good move to draft quarterbacks to set them
25:14
for a couple years. I I don't like starting
25:16
quarterbacks straight straight out of the draft.
25:18
I also I'm I'm on the same page as well.
25:20
I think that, I mean, I know every position is a mental
25:24
position. Like you kind of have to, you
25:26
know, get into it. And it's one of those things
25:29
where it's kind of like, I don't know, learning a new skill,
25:31
learning a new sport, learning a new language, where there's that
25:34
point where you're having to kind of like manually think
25:37
through every action. And then at some point it clicks
25:41
and then you're not having to think and you're just doing.
25:44
And I think that being a quarterback in the NFL,
25:46
especially for any given team, like it just requires, I mean
25:50
that that's basically the difference between making the
25:52
throw and being sacked is just that split time decision.
25:56
And if you're not fully comfortable, if you're not fully
25:59
in it, if you're not fully like, you know, aware and, you know, I
26:04
guess what would the word be just locked into the system in
26:07
the scheme Like that could be the make or break point.
26:11
And so I think, I mean, I feel like honestly, every single
26:14
quarterback in the league is capable.
26:16
It's really a matter of, you know, does the coaching staff
26:18
trust you? Have they put you in a good
26:20
position? Are they playing to your
26:21
strengths? You know, do you feel
26:23
comfortable? Do you have a good line?
26:24
Do you and all of these, all of these things that go into it?
26:27
But I do feel like you're kind of with Sam Darnold.
26:29
I mean, I would say it's like, yeah, probably took him a few
26:32
years to like figure it out. But also it's like, I mean, were
26:35
you in a good situation? You know, it's like, you know,
26:37
Sam Darnold could go back to The Jets and have the exact same
26:40
season he had, you know, when he first started, you know, where
26:43
it's like maybe just wasn't a good situation where that's I
26:46
kind of do like, you know, the the fact that quarterbacks do
26:50
kind of swap teams because it is kind of more of a matter of
26:52
finding that right team. But I mean, then there's also
26:55
like the Jimmy Garoppolo situation where, you know, you
26:58
sit in behind Tom Brady a little while and everyone's like, oh,
27:00
dude, this is the next Tom Brady.
27:02
This is his protege. And he comes in and plays and
27:04
he's like, he's all right. He goes to San Francisco, he's
27:07
all right. And then never really, you know,
27:09
finds a group. And sometimes it's just unlucky.
27:11
Sometimes the fan base, the, the, the, the position that the
27:14
teams in is just into just not ready or not able to make that
27:18
time commitment. So a lot of times it just
27:21
happened. It just comes down to luck and
27:23
just getting the right timing. I mean, like Brock Purdy as an
27:26
example with someone who came in and then made a big splash which
27:30
propelled him. And so I think he'd be capable.
27:32
I think it's just a matter of, you know, if it's the right time
27:36
and if he's got the right pieces around him.
27:37
Cool. Well, let's I'll move on to my
27:39
player that I want the Bucks to draft in the first round that is
27:42
Miami Edge, Akim Mizador. I want them to draft Akim
27:46
Mizador regardless of what they do in free agency.
27:48
If the Bucks don't address pass rusher in free agency, drafting
27:51
a key Mesador would make a ton of sense because I think he's
27:54
the best pass rusher in the draft.
27:55
I really do. But even if the Bucks do address
27:58
pass rusher in free agency, I would still want them to draft a
28:00
key Mesador because you can never have too many pass
28:03
rushers. So if the Bucks go out and sign
28:05
3 pass rushers in free agency, that's great.
28:08
Now go out and draft another one.
28:10
The Bucks pass rush was so bad last season.
28:13
Just bring in as many guys as possible who are even somewhat
28:16
capable of rushing the passer. Hakim Mesador, in my opinion, is
28:19
an NFL ready pass rusher right now.
28:22
He's got the talent, he's got the experience, and he's had
28:25
coaching from an NFL Hall of Fame edge rusher in Jason
28:28
Taylor. So I think he would be a perfect
28:30
fit for the Bucks because they just need a ton of help on the
28:34
edge. So for me, I would pick Hakim
28:36
Mesador as a guy that I want the Bucks to draft in the first
28:38
round. The only real knock we added him
28:41
was that he's going to be 25 years old as a rookie, right?
28:44
And so you're not getting length of career, I guess out of them,
28:48
but what you're getting is a good relatively cheap player in
28:52
the long run. We'll see.
28:53
The thing with the length of career is I don't necessarily
28:56
think that's even much of A concern because you look at guys
28:58
like Trey Hendrickson, if they're good and they're in
29:02
their 30s, people don't care. A lot of teams want Trey
29:05
Hendrickson, even though he's over 30 and he's in the back
29:09
half his career, he's still really good and a lot of people
29:12
still want him. So if Akim Mesador comes in and
29:15
he's really good, I bet you the Bucks would still want to keep
29:17
him. And if not, there would be
29:19
someone in the NFL that wants to get Akim Mesador.
29:22
All right, well, let's move on to the let's move on to the non
29:24
first round players. I know we each prepared two
29:27
first round players, but just for the sake of time, let's move
29:29
on to the non first round players.
29:31
So Gavin, why don't you give us a non first round player that
29:35
you want the Seahawks to draft? I think I'll go with Jalen
29:38
Kilgore from USC. He is basically the counterpart
29:43
to Nicky Manwari. Nicky Manwari should have been
29:47
Defensive rookie of the Year in my opinion, and he is the
29:52
opposite of that he is. Swessinger, Baby.
29:55
It no, no, but as Evan Warriors a like cornerback safety hybrid,
30:03
Kilgore is more of a safety linebacker.
30:06
He's quick to the run. If you line him up against the
30:08
receiver, he's a little slow. He'll he'll get beat.
30:11
But when you line him up against a tight end is where he excels.
30:14
And going into the Rams twice a year, they do like, I think it
30:19
was somewhere on like 70% of their offensive plays were in a
30:22
triple tight end set. So having him to kind of
30:26
counteract that is just very beneficial.
30:29
Only thing he that he really struggles with is he's a little
30:32
slow and breaking blocks once once you, you know, get get on
30:37
him, it's kind of hard for him to break away.
30:39
But other than that, he completely counteract the triple
30:43
tight end for the Rams. And that's our main competitor
30:46
in the division. So I'm, I'm pretty high on him.
30:50
I think he'd be a huge piece for our defense.
30:52
Yeah, I think Jalen Kilgore just feels like a guy who the
30:55
Seahawks would target because I see him similar to Nick Emanori.
31:00
Jalen Kilgore is a guy who you can move around the defensive
31:02
formation to play different positions.
31:04
He played safety, he played corner, he played all around the
31:07
defense in South Carolina, and I think those are the type of guys
31:10
that Mike McDonald likes on his defense.
31:12
What I really like about him, though, is I think Jalen Kilgore
31:16
is a guy who is just around the football all the time.
31:19
He has 21 pass deflections and eight interceptions in three
31:22
seasons. He's constantly just putting
31:24
himself in position to make plays, and so I think he would
31:27
be a perfect fit for the Seattle defense because again, like I
31:31
said, that's just kind of like the guy that they like on their
31:34
defense. So I think he would be a great
31:36
fit for them. I'm a big fan of just the
31:38
positional flexibility. I just think as far as the
31:40
Seahawks defense, I mean it. It is wild to me that basically
31:44
since 20/13/2012 that Seahawks defense has kind of become
31:49
synonymous with like Ravens or Steelers defense.
31:52
It's more of like the secondary maybe, but it's just one of
31:55
those things where, geez, even with a total dynasty change,
31:59
they still come back and are just like totally feared.
32:02
And I feel like this guy reminds me.
32:04
He looks like someone who could come on and kind of resemble, I
32:08
don't want to say match, but resemble, you know, that Legion
32:11
of Boom, just those guys that can just go anywhere.
32:13
I mean that whole team, besides just being freakishly athletic
32:18
and again, very physically intimidating, a big part of that
32:22
legion of boom is just their intelligence and just knowing
32:24
where to be. And it was just one of those
32:27
things where it's just a devastating.
32:28
I mean, when they played the the Broncos and they had the number
32:31
one offense and absolutely shut them down.
32:33
I see a lot of this kind of the same thing with the mental
32:36
acuity of of quarterbacks just knowing where to be.
32:39
I feel like, especially on defense, that positional
32:42
flexibility helps them to understand what is going on on
32:46
the field to be able to make those quick adjustments.
32:49
And I think this guy would fit in great.
32:50
I. Mean we're those 20 bad right
32:52
when we've talked to this guy quite a bit.
32:54
Question for you Gavin. What round you want him in?
32:56
What round is What round is appropriate to draft him in?
32:59
I was thinking somewhere around because we have the last pick, I
33:03
was thinking second, probably third, somewhere in there just
33:06
because it's the last pick. So our second round pick is
33:08
essentially a third round pick and our third round pick is a
33:10
fourth round pick. So I'd like to take him with our
33:13
second because I feel like he will be taken somewhere around
33:16
there. But if we can get them with our
33:18
third, maybe even trade up for him, I would be willing to do.
33:21
I'd be willing to give away, you know, our fifth round pick to
33:24
trade up for Jetlin Kilgore in the third.
33:26
And incredibly athletic because as we talked about, he's, I
33:29
don't want to say one-of-a-kind athlete, but, but you don't get
33:32
a lot of two things. 1, he, he was in the Senior Bowl, right?
33:35
So he has lots of, a lot of college experience and still
33:38
willing to kind of do everything and go anywhere just to make the
33:41
play. And so whatever my team needs,
33:44
I'm going to do it. And those are the kind of guys
33:46
that you especially, especially when you're not a first round
33:49
talent, those are the guys that you really want to work for
33:52
where it's not just about how good they are at playing
33:56
football. It's hey, how much do they help
33:58
the team everywhere else with his ability to to make a hit
34:01
and, and, and be fearless in the play.
34:04
He'll be a great special teams guy until they need them to
34:06
actually roll in and and be a a key rotational player in the
34:09
defense. I like them a lot.
34:11
Just as a quick side note before we get roasted on the Internet,
34:14
we are aware it is JALON. Sometimes we make spelling
34:18
errors. OK, whatever.
34:19
Move on. Also needs to show Will Finest
34:25
to take on blocks. That's another one.
34:26
I just wanted to point that out before someone else thinks
34:29
they're smart for having seen that first.
34:31
Oh, yeah, we, we, we caught you. Yeah, we do.
34:34
One thing one thing I noticed is I type in these things and tell
34:38
ChatGPT what to say, but ChatGPT sucks at spelling, Sucks at
34:43
spelling, even though I tell you exactly how to spell the word.
34:46
Especially when it has to create a visual from the text.
34:50
It's just it's, it's out there. So.
34:53
But I think everyone can see that, know exactly what that
34:56
word is. So yes, I can, but I'm pretty
34:58
sure everyone else can. You hear no comments to
35:03
yourself. We get it.
35:04
We know how to spell. Yeah, You're not as smart if you
35:06
put it in there. If you put it in there and and
35:10
we already brought it up, you're not you're not funny.
35:13
You're not original. Mom's a hoe.
35:17
Don't cut that. They need to know.
35:20
I'm not. I'm leaving everything in this
35:22
episode. Good, good.
35:24
Uncensored. Put that in there with with
35:27
Avery's cousin. Uncensored family's going to
35:30
love that. My family all right, let's move
35:34
on. All right will give us a non
35:36
first round player. You want the Rams to draft.
35:39
All right, let's go with Notre Dame wide receiver Malachi Bell
35:44
or Field. Excuse me, It's it's Markel
35:46
Bell. Malachi Fields.
35:48
My bad. I was really.
35:49
Hoping you were going to pick him because I have some things I
35:51
want to say about him, but I'll let you go first.
35:53
OK, well, sure. 6 foot 4, 1 Sieber out of Notre Dame.
35:58
This dude catches nearly everything 3 drops in the last
36:02
two years. The problem is his his main
36:04
problem is that he went to Notre Dame and Notre Dame has probably
36:08
the best overall athlete, well offensive athlete coming out of
36:14
their team this year in the draft in Jeremiah Love.
36:17
And so they just handed in the ball a lot.
36:19
And I think a lot of his problems, he's his route running
36:23
is not great. He doesn't get separation.
36:25
He doesn't get this, that and the other.
36:27
Imagine being on a high school team with Derrick Henry, right
36:31
as a receiver on a high school team with Derrick Henry.
36:34
You're not doing anything. You're not getting scouted.
36:37
You don't have the ability to do anything.
36:39
You're not throwing the football.
36:41
All right, here you go. All right, here you go.
36:43
And even blocking for something like Derrick Henry, he didn't
36:46
need to do that. He was in a low level anyway.
36:49
Now, I do wish Malachi was more a consistent Walker.
36:54
That is one of his takeaways. Not great at run blocking, just
36:58
in general. A lot of times because he's a
37:00
bigger size, they had him chasing down the safety and
37:03
we're trying to chase that a safety and you open field, make
37:05
a block. As a receiver who already
37:07
doesn't have refined blocking, it's just not an easy task.
37:10
He's incredibly gifted at making a contested catches and making
37:14
high pointing the ball and and making and making the 5050 balls
37:18
look more like his every time. Great receiver in that aspect.
37:21
I think he will do great sitting behind Devante Adams and Devante
37:26
Adams first year of his contract.
37:27
I don't think he is a he's not a day one starter.
37:31
I don't think he should be. I think he needs to come in and
37:33
learn how to be an NFL receiver, learn how to expand his route
37:38
tree, learn how to get off the line of scrimmage.
37:40
And who better than a similar style receiver than Devante
37:43
Adams? So here's what I have to say
37:44
about Malachi Fields. Malachi Fields reminds me of
37:47
Keyon Coleman. If you go look at the scouting
37:50
reports for Malachi Fields and the scouting reports for Keyon
37:52
Coleman when he went into the draft, they are very similar.
37:56
Both use their size to win jump balls, both are hard to bring
37:58
down after the catch, and both struggle to create separation.
38:02
They even have very similar testing numbers.
38:04
They both ran a 461 fourty at the Columbine and they both have
38:08
a 38 inch vertical. They both have the same arm
38:10
length, they both have the same hand size, and they pretty much
38:13
weigh the same. Obviously the team situation and
38:17
the player personality and all that impacts how things turn out
38:19
in the NFL, but these two guys are very similar, and Keon
38:23
Coleman's just not it. And so I'm not so sure that
38:26
Malachi Fields is either. Obviously the situation with the
38:29
Rams is different than what Keon Coleman went into because he
38:33
would have Puku Nakua and Devante Adams to teach him.
38:36
But the way that they play the game is just very similar.
38:40
And so I'm not really a big fan of Malachi Fields because I'm
38:43
not a big fan of Keon Coleman. I think the difference here is
38:47
that Malachi Fields wouldn't step in and be expected to be
38:53
the guy, right? Keon Coleman Draft would pick
38:55
#33 first pick in the second round, that is.
39:00
It's it's not the first round, I get that, but still you are
39:05
expected to step in and produce now in that field.
39:08
I like drafting him in the fourth round and there's just
39:11
different expectations. I also think the offensive
39:14
scheme of the Rams is significantly different than the
39:18
offensive scheme of the Bills and I don't think it's
39:22
beneficial to Big X receivers. And so and so I think that's one
39:28
reason. I think if Keon Coleman had gone
39:30
somewhere else, then he probably would be much better, but his
39:33
expectations were too high and the team just did not support
39:37
him the way they should have it. Yeah, honestly.
39:40
So I I get the hesitancy, but I think expectation and team fit
39:45
are key and instrumental in that.
39:48
Yeah, I agree with that. All right Avery, give us a non
39:51
first round player you want the Bucks to draft.
39:53
Why? Don't you go ahead and go to him
39:56
right now. Don't you go ahead and go to him
39:58
right now. This guy's out of Texas.
40:02
Yeah, yeah. I like this guy a lot.
40:05
Anthony Hill Junior. The one thing, the one thing
40:09
that I'm not a huge fan of that I hope he can figure out is his
40:13
individual pursuit. Just too many plays where I see,
40:17
you know, a guy in the open field one-on-one and just get
40:21
lost by the Chevy. That's literal.
40:23
That's like the only thing that I'm not a huge fan of that I
40:26
hope he can improve on. This guy is is strong, he's
40:30
athletic, he's getting picks out there.
40:32
He's basically looking like a safety, honestly, but playing in
40:35
just kind of that midfield area. I think he would be a sweet
40:40
addition to the Bucks. I don't know if it's necessarily
40:43
what they would need completely. I think there might be a better
40:47
position for this pick for the second round pick.
40:50
But Anthony Hill junior is a baller.
40:53
I like him a lot and I think he would be a stud in Tampa Bay.
40:58
I agree. I like Anthony Hill junior a lot
40:59
because I think he can do a little bit of everything that
41:02
you need your linebacker to do. He diagnosis plays well, he can
41:06
tackle well, he can cover and he can rush the passer.
41:09
In three seasons at Texas, he played in 40 games and he had
41:13
250 tackles, 17 sacks, 8 forced fumbles and three interceptions.
41:17
He doesn't just have the tape to show you that you can do a
41:20
little bit of everything. He has the numbers to actually
41:22
back it up. So right now I think he's one of
41:24
those fringe first round players.
41:26
But if he makes it out of the first round, whoever drafts him
41:29
is getting an absolute steal. And honestly, I don't think
41:32
there's much separation as everyone thinks there is between
41:35
him and some of the other top linebackers in this class.
41:38
I like my linebackers to be able to rush and to be able to cover
41:41
well and from what I've seen from this guy, you can do about
41:44
those things. He does have his downsides like
41:46
every player, but I I actually do really enjoy watching this
41:50
guy play and I think I think he would be a great fit and do
41:53
really well on Temple Bay I. Just don't want the Bucks to
41:55
have him so he's terrible. Yeah.
41:59
Yeah, I'm just getting. Back take, take, Yeah.
42:01
Don't take him, Don't take him. Will, as a member of this
42:04
podcast, your secondary team is supposed to be the Bucks.
42:09
You should want them to be successful.
42:10
Yeah, yeah. Don't mind the John Lynch jersey
42:13
hanging in the background. I.
42:15
Screw the Rams. Then I, I, I, I think it has
42:22
been huge moving to the SEC for him and for most of the Texas
42:27
players, but especially the defensive Texas players is the
42:30
SEC and it's, it's definitely changing, but it actually SEC
42:34
has played more like the NFL in the past where it is, it is
42:39
larger humans, it is faster play.
42:41
I think the Big 10 is kind of taking that over now just just
42:45
from the sure pure athleticism that the game is shifting to.
42:50
But moving to the SEC and having to play against those, those
42:54
players on all of the teams, I think it's made him
42:57
significantly better and has grown him as a player and I
43:00
think it'll translate over well. So I think it's a great pick up
43:03
and you're right. So if you can get them out of
43:04
the first round, it's going to be an even better pick up.
43:07
Absolutely. All right, so for my non first
43:09
round player, I want the Bucks to draft.
43:12
I'm going to go with Oregon linebacker Bryce Becher.
43:15
Bryce Becher reminds me of the linebacker version of Baker
43:19
Mayfield. He's a former walk on who plays
43:21
with a chip on his shoulder. He's undersized for the
43:24
position, but he plays fearless and he's one of those tough,
43:27
gritty players who refuses to back down from anybody and I
43:31
think he's a great leader. I think Bryce Becher will make a
43:33
significant impact in the NFL in some phase of the game right
43:37
away. I feel like he's more of a guy
43:39
who will start on special teams 1st and then work his way into a
43:42
role on defense. But even if he's just a special
43:45
teams guy, that's perfect for the Bucks because special teams
43:48
either cost them or almost cost them the game.
43:51
A lot of games last year, it was a reason that the Bucks almost
43:54
lost to The Jets. It was a reason that they did
43:57
lose to the Eagles. Special teams was not good for
44:00
the Bucks last year. And so they fired their special
44:02
teams coach and they brought in former Steelers special teams
44:05
coach Danny Smith, who's one of the best special team coaches in
44:08
the NFL. And now it's time for them to go
44:10
out and get some players with the type of mentality that Bryce
44:13
Becher has to help this special teams unit get better.
44:16
And so any coach would love to have Bryce Becher because of his
44:19
competitive nature and the mentality that he brings to the
44:23
team. You don't become part of the
44:25
Caucasian collision unit without having some serious grit to you.
44:28
So I really like Bryce Becher a lot in the later rounds and I
44:32
would love for the Buccaneers to draft him.
44:34
He's not even the the best part of the Caucasian collision unit.
44:37
He's not but the way but he's. Still I could.
44:41
You you have to be able to play the way he plays to be part of
44:44
the Caucasian collision unit. This guy was so good.
44:48
He's so good. I think a separate piece here
44:52
you didn't mention is, is he has a baseball background and these
44:57
these prospects, these athletes, these these players at at every
45:02
sport who were high level in multiple sports.
45:07
I think it gives them a leg up in whatever sport they
45:09
eventually play in, except maybe Kyler Murray.
45:11
But still, he was top five pick in both the MLB and the NFL.
45:17
And so that that's huge. That's huge for that.
45:19
It's huge for everything. And so when you were able to
45:22
play at a high level of multiple sports, increases your ball
45:26
knowledge and your your sport IQ across the board, because
45:30
although not every skill translates over seeing the ball
45:35
is a huge piece of of it all. And so I, I don't want to
45:38
overlook that that aspect of this game as well.
45:40
We're getting along with time. So I think what we're going to
45:42
do is we'll go through each of us one more time, but I'll give
45:46
you guys the option to do a first round player or a non
45:50
first round player. So Gavin, we're back to you.
45:52
Give us either a first round or a non first round player that
45:55
you want the Seattle Seahawks to draft.
45:57
Oh, I think from non first round players, Xavion Thomas from LSU
46:02
as a receiver he does struggle with contested catches.
46:05
His route running on deep balls and the ball tracking is a
46:09
little off. But you could be a useful tool
46:12
on our offense and an even better one for our special
46:14
teams. So I'm really curious with
46:16
Xavion Thomas why LSU didn't use him as a kick returner much in
46:20
2025? Because in 2024, he had 24
46:23
kickoff returns for 633 yards and a touchdown.
46:27
And then he also has a kickoff return in 2023 and a part return
46:31
touchdown in 2022. So he didn't do it much in 2025.
46:35
I'm not really sure why LSU didn't use him much as a
46:39
returner, but in 2024 he was very good as a returner.
46:43
So I think at the very least, what you're going to get from
46:45
Xavion Thomas is a guy who will be a special teams contributor
46:49
for you right away. I think these kind of players
46:51
are always kind of hit or miss. You know, there's always a a
46:54
handful of these just speedy guys.
46:57
Who is that? Who is that dude from Florida
47:01
like a decade and a half ago? Percy Harvin.
47:03
Percy Harvin. Percy Harvin, it's just these
47:06
guys that come out, you know, and just have this just elite
47:09
shiftiness and speed can clearly be a, you know, a game breaker,
47:13
a play breaker and just like absolutely scorch the defense.
47:17
And I feel like sometimes it just it's kind of just a, you
47:19
know, a flip of a coin, whether or not they actually produce
47:22
what you want them to. If they get, you know, shut down
47:25
if you on the the the opposing defenses, like regardless of
47:29
what happens, we will not be giving this man an opportunity.
47:32
And then it could just shut down his production all together and
47:34
kind of inadvertently, I want to say end his career, but shorten
47:39
it just because he's like, I mean, I don't have anything else
47:42
to show if no one's, you know, giving me the ball.
47:44
So I think it's kind of one of those things where it's like,
47:46
Hey, if you guys have faith in him, I'd say go for it because I
47:49
think there's, you know, only a handful of these guys every
47:51
year. But you know, if you if you pick
47:53
right, you know it's huge all. Right Avery, back to you.
47:57
Give us either a first round or non first round player you want
48:00
the Bucks to draft. Oh, I was hoping he would fall a
48:03
little lower. He looks like he's like mid
48:07
first round, which I mean it's still first round but I was kind
48:09
of hoping he would be second round from watching them all
48:12
year long. But Dylan Theeman is a unit, A
48:17
unit. This guy played at Oregon,
48:21
played the first, you know, couple years at Purdue.
48:23
Dude was everywhere. The white boys are definitely
48:25
making a comeback to the secondary and he is no
48:29
exception. I think he's going to have a
48:30
long, long career in the NFL. Dude is just a ball hawk.
48:34
Just anywhere, anywhere that ball is, he is there.
48:37
He made the game ending pick against Penn State at the white
48:40
out game. Read that play, knew it from in
48:44
the beginning of it. Got exactly in a position, but
48:47
not too early, not too late, made the pick.
48:49
I think this guy, he's the he's the opposite.
48:52
He's the other end of the Caucasian collision unit with
48:54
Bryce Becher. Dude is just sneaky good.
48:56
He he doesn't look like a beast, but this guy will hit you like a
49:00
Mack truck. I would love it to not.
49:03
I would love to not have to root against this guy when Tampa Bay
49:06
plays him by again. I, I, I, I think he's awesome.
49:12
So yeah, Dylan Theeman out of Oregon, I would love it if we
49:15
got him. Yeah, I think he would be a good
49:17
thing with the Bucks. The only thing is that I think
49:19
the Bucks would have to trade down out of pick 15 in order to
49:24
get him because I don't think they're going to pick him at
49:26
pick 15 and I don't think he's going to be there when the Bucks
49:29
pick in the second round, so. Nope, he's in a weird he's in a
49:33
weird position. I've seen I've seen him at pick
49:36
16. So I'm, I mean, it kind of
49:38
depends on, you know, where he'd be at.
49:40
But I think, I think it would be, I don't want to say
49:44
irresponsible. I would enjoy it, but I think
49:47
there might be better people at pick 15 to grab than him.
49:51
So he is just in a in an awkward spot.
49:54
Yeah, and especially because safety for the Bucks is actually
49:58
a strength. I know it didn't look like it,
50:00
but that was because their pass rush was so awful that these
50:04
guys were out there having to cover for like 20 seconds.
50:06
The quarterback's just standing back there and doing whatever he
50:09
wants. So safety is actually a strength
50:11
for the Bucks, but it just didn't look like it because the
50:13
pass rush was just so bad. So all right, well, we're back
50:17
to you. Give us either a first round or
50:19
a non first round player that you want the Rams to draft.
50:22
Let's stick with the non first round people.
50:25
Let's go with offensive tackle from Miami, their other side.
50:28
We've already talked about Francis Mellinoa.
50:30
This is the other side of the line with Markel Bell.
50:33
This dude is 6 foot 9. He his playing weights about
50:37
£350. He ran the 40 at 536 and 10
50:41
yards split at 184. So he's not fast, but boy howdy
50:46
is he strong. And when you also forgot to
50:48
mention well that he has 36 inch arms.
50:52
Yes, yeah, well, that's I was, I was getting that 30.
50:56
Oh, I'm on the wrong guy. There we go. 36 six inch arms,
51:00
almost 36 1/2 inch arms. The problem is he only has nine
51:03
in chance, which to put into perspective, Josh Allen has 10
51:08
and three quarter in chance. OK.
51:10
And so so does that really matter as an offensive lineman?
51:14
Somewhat. You do want bigger hands because
51:17
you're trying to to block and not grab.
51:19
But with long arms you can get your hands out there faster or
51:22
or sooner. He had a really unique size to
51:25
athleticism. He is quite athletic for his
51:29
size. The problem is he's very top
51:30
heavy and so he leans along with his waist.
51:34
I get this under development to a guy I would want to see in the
51:37
fifth round maybe maybe maybe early 6 by just due to sheer
51:42
size and athleticism. I want to bring him in and see
51:44
what he can do. You see here our our one sheet 0
51:48
sacks allowed this year when he got his hands on defenders, he
51:51
did not let them get to Carson back very similar well, kind of
51:56
semi similar play style on the Rams where you've got
51:59
quarterback back there trying to throw the ball Carson back to
52:02
run a little bit more. But moving forward, Matthew
52:04
Stafford is not the forever piece.
52:06
He's near retirement and whoever comes in is it just innately
52:11
going to be more athletic? And so and that's just that's
52:15
what magic Stafford to step up from Peyton Manning, right?
52:19
And so you're going to get more athletic as you get down
52:24
generations just because the game has changed.
52:27
Your problem is is that he is not great in the run defense.
52:30
He is not great on the second level.
52:33
He's too slow. Honestly, what it comes down to.
52:37
And so when watching his tape on run blocks, they pretty much had
52:41
him pass block on run blocks, except he just didn't come off
52:44
the line of scrimmage. He just kind of leaned forward
52:47
and grabbed the guy in front of him and just kind of either spun
52:51
him because he's physically stronger and we just spin you to
52:54
open up a hole, or he just turns his hips to to seal off the edge
52:58
so he's not getting downfield to run blocks.
53:00
So he's going to have to learn how to do that in the NFL, which
53:02
is why he's so much lower than Francis Malinova is because he
53:06
his past walking arguably better, but he just can't run
53:09
block at any level beyond one step past the line of scrimmage.
53:14
He's just not moving people because his pad level is too
53:17
high. He's not going to get low enough
53:18
because he's 6 foot 9 to get under people to lift him and
53:21
move him. Great prospect for late round
53:23
who could be very, very good. But if he's not, then you're not
53:26
spending a lot of if he's a practice, he's not athletic
53:30
enough to be a special tamer. So you're either put him in the
53:33
practice squad and he's living there his whole life, which
53:37
would be fine, not ideal obviously, or he's learning how
53:42
to pass block and he's coming in and he's or she's learning how
53:45
to run block, he's coming in and he's he's a premier guy in the
53:48
next few years. I'm very curious how this guy
53:51
did against Ruben Bayne in practice because his arms are so
53:55
long. They're like 6 inches longer
53:58
than Ruben Bayne's arms. Yeah.
53:59
So that had to be an incredible advantage against Ruben Bayne.
54:03
I mean, I'm just, I'm just curious how he did in practice.
54:06
I don't think we'll ever know that, but I would be curious to
54:10
see these two guys go up against each other just because I feel
54:13
like it's almost like Marquel Bell is an adult and Reuben
54:16
Bayne is a small child. And Marquel Bell would just
54:19
stick his arm out and just put his hand on Reuben Bayne's head
54:23
and Reuben Bayne just couldn't do anything.
54:25
And he, because he's just extending his arm and they're
54:27
six inches longer than Reuben Bayne's.
54:29
And so Reuben Bayne just can't do anything.
54:32
But maybe that's not the case. I don't know.
54:34
I'm just curious how they did against each other in practice.
54:37
One additional thing here, I think this is probably the most
54:39
the most key thing is coming out of high school.
54:42
Mark Hillbill, 0 star prospect. He he has not grown that much
54:47
height since high school. I think he was 6 foot 7 coming
54:50
out of high school. He got JUCO offers, went in,
54:53
played two years in junior college.
54:55
When he was leaving junior college, he was a four-star
54:58
junior college prospect. So he took his, his I'm just
55:02
going to make a name for myself attitude and did that thing.
55:06
And and so he went through the through the trenches in junior
55:09
college, got picked up, went through the trenches in Miami.
55:12
He he served his time, he grew, he learned and every single step
55:17
along the way, he has gotten progressively better every
55:20
single year. And you and you see it through
55:22
his progression. And so I don't think he's going
55:24
to have an issue coming in and learning and growing his game
55:28
even further, which again, is exactly what you're looking for
55:30
with these late round guys. All right, so we'll finish up
55:33
with this player and this is also a non first round guy that
55:37
I would like the Bucks to draft. So a player that I've had my eye
55:40
on for a long time is Illinois Edge Gabe Akis.
55:44
And it's no secret that the Bucks need a pass rush, and I
55:48
feel like Gabe Actis is going to be a monster in the league.
55:51
He's a former high school state wrestling champ in Florida and
55:54
his wrestling background shows up when you watch him on tape.
55:57
He uses his strength and his physicality combined with a high
56:00
motor to just bully his way into the pocket.
56:03
He's also got some really impressive pass rush moves.
56:06
He's got a violent chop move that gets blocker's hands off of
56:09
him and he's got a really good RIP move where his arm gets
56:13
under the offensive lineman's arm and just completely
56:15
neutralizes their ability to use that arm to block him.
56:19
I think he was incredibly productive at Illinois,
56:22
recording 27 sacks in 50 games with 19 of those sacks coming
56:26
over the last two seasons in 25 games.
56:29
Gay Backus has all the tools needed to be a star edge rusher
56:32
at the NFL level and I think he is going to be.
56:35
So I think that the Bucks drafting him, I think it's a
56:38
perfect fit for the Bucks. He's from Florida, just keep him
56:41
in Florida and I think this guy would be an absolute monster for
56:45
the Buccaneers or any team that drafts him.
56:47
Honestly, I think Gay back is is going to be a great player in
56:51
the NFL. Were you like him drafted?
56:52
What round? Second round, it would be second
56:55
round. I don't think he's good enough
56:57
to go in the first round, but I definitely think he's going to
56:59
go in the second round and so I think he's going to right in
57:02
that perfect range for where the Buccaneers draft in the second
57:05
round for them to be able to get him.
57:06
I like that wrestling background, just like core
57:09
understanding of how to get leverage, get around people.
57:13
Just imagine if he was wrestling.
57:15
Yeah, just imagine if he was wrestling in high school at 266
57:18
three. Just so used to all these
57:20
wrestlers being like 571 to 1125, and they're really strong
57:27
against those other guys and they're still really strong in
57:30
general. But when you get up to this big
57:32
weight, it's like, dude, Yikes. Gavin, do you have anything else
57:36
to add? I haven't looked too deep into
57:38
the Buccaneers, but we did play them.
57:40
And that game Sam Arnold had all the time he wanted, you know, it
57:44
was deep ball after deep ball shoot out of a game.
57:46
And so I definitely think, you know, adding, adding the edge
57:49
get around, get to the quarterback fast, definitely
57:52
that'll, you know, bring down the scores of the game and give
57:55
that elite offense, you know, the separation it needs from the
57:58
defense. Because I feel like the
57:59
Buccaneers are toned down version of the Bengals where
58:03
they have that elite offense but the subpar defense.
58:07
So I think, yeah, adding the adding the edge to the Bucks
58:10
defense will definitely give the offense to separation to go out
58:14
and win more games. Honestly, if the Bucks just
58:17
drafted nothing but just edge rushers, I would not hate that.
58:22
I would not be opposed to that at all because their pass rush
58:24
was so incredibly bad last year. There was a reason that they
58:29
were as bad as they were record wise, because they just could
58:32
not. There was one guy who could rush
58:34
the. Passer and that was it.
58:36
One guy so I'm not opposed to them drafting just edge rusher
58:40
in every single round of the draft except for Bryce becher.
58:43
They got to get Bryce becher. So all right well I don't have
58:45
anything else to add do you guys have anything else you want to
58:47
add before we close out the show?
58:49
Nope. All right cool.
58:50
Well then that's all we have time for on today's episode.
58:53
Gavin, thank you for joining us we appreciated you coming on and
58:57
we're glad that you finally will actually be making appearance on
59:00
the show next week we are going to talk about some of the free
59:03
agent moves that are made around the league.
59:05
Maybe talk about some early winners and losers from free
59:08
agency. And then I'm hoping we have
59:09
enough time to get in like two or three more scouting reports
59:13
for you guys from ESPN's top 50 big board and continue to add to
59:16
ours. And so that's all we have time
59:18
for, guys. But as always, don't forget to
59:20
keep your balls played with. We'll see you next time.
59:23
Bye now y'all. Also, Mark Davis and Sarah Kyle
59:25
still sucks.