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5-26-26 Hour 1 - Game 4 wants & expectations/Bednar on the chopping block?/Knicks headed to NBA Finals · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 2: Okay, game excuse me? Game four tonight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of the start that you wanted to do,
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Speaker 2: wasn't it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of how I feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. First of all, Vic, welcome back, buddy. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: our heart breaks FA you for the news over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: I'll just kind of give you the floor to start
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Speaker 2: this thing if you would like.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for the kind words, boys, it was very nice
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Speaker 4: of all of you. A lot of people have reached out.
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Speaker 4: You guys know how much my dad meant to me
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Speaker 4: and to a lot of us and our family. And
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Speaker 4: it's a horrible disease. You guys have heard the stories.
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Speaker 4: You've been there with me, You've walked the walk, so
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Speaker 4: you never want to see it end. But I tell you,
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Speaker 4: yesterday we grieved all day. Yesterday. We had a lot
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Speaker 4: of people over in my mom's house and I wondered,
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Speaker 4: I mean, once should I go back to work and
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Speaker 4: I could hear my dad's voice in there? What are
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Speaker 4: you doing. What are you doing here?
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Speaker 5: Like, hey, your why aren't you why aren't you at
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Speaker 5: the home depot right now before you get to the ring.
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Speaker 4: That was the one story that I do want to say.
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Speaker 4: We'll move on. My dad, by the way, was a
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Speaker 4: passionate AVS fan. My mom was a Nuggets fan. My
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Speaker 4: dad was an Avs fan. My mom never missed a
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Speaker 4: Nuggets game. My dad never missed an Avs game. But
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Speaker 4: when I was working for Channel four, I remember coming
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Speaker 4: home for dinner. I'd go see them for my dinner
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Speaker 4: break between the six and ten o'clock news, and my
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Speaker 4: dad one day said to me, what do you what
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Speaker 4: are you doing until the ten o'clock news? I go, well, Dad,
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Speaker 4: I got I gotta go back and prepare and write.
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Speaker 4: He goes, right, why don't you get a part time
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Speaker 4: job at home deepot And that's a way.
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Speaker 2: A couple hours stocking shelves before you jump back on.
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Speaker 4: He just didn't understand the whole Just being idle, idle
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Speaker 4: time for him was just the devil. He just didn't
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Speaker 4: understand it. And that's how I was raised. Fellows, thank you,
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Speaker 4: thank you very much. My mother heard you guys yesterday
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Speaker 4: and she cried, so thank.
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Speaker 2: You well, Babby, we love you, and I hope things
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Speaker 2: are getting better slowly as we all kind of understand.
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Speaker 2: But welcome back Vic. Now he came back in a
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Speaker 2: weird time because here's what I was going to ask,
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Speaker 2: do you just want this to end? Or do you
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Speaker 2: want them to push it? And it's a weird thing
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Speaker 2: to say, but it's kind of where we are, and
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Speaker 2: it's a similar question that we asked to the Nuggets.
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Speaker 2: And I will say this just on the front end.
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Speaker 2: I think this is different for this reason, and it
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Speaker 2: might just be, you know, splitting hairs on this. The
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Speaker 2: Nuggets felt like even if they somehow made a comeback
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Speaker 2: against Minnesota, I don't know what was gonna happen beyond
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Speaker 2: that you didn't have the firepower. It felt like to
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Speaker 2: deal with a spurs or a thunder down the line. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: in the case of the Avs, could I say a
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Speaker 2: win tonight in a winning game five would put an
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Speaker 2: immense amount of pressure on Vegas And then it's kind
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Speaker 2: of like who knows? And I do believe that if
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Speaker 2: Vegas sort of felt that pressure, maybe things could change.
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Speaker 2: But it's one thing if you're just dominated and most.
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Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday. If a team is just
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Speaker 2: better than you, I think that's a more stomachable way
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Speaker 2: to deal with something like this. Vegas hasn't just blown
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Speaker 2: your doors off. They've made small plays that have changed
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Speaker 2: the results.
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Speaker 3: Of each game.
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Speaker 2: So now what do you do, well.
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Speaker 5: Brett, if it was just one game, like, just win
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Speaker 5: this game and then win that game. Where it gets
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Speaker 5: tough for me is the law of averages over the
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Speaker 5: span of four games from this point on is very
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Speaker 5: very difficult, right, very hard. So excuse me to win
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Speaker 5: one game? Yeah, go win one game. They can totally
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Speaker 5: win one game, but then it's the next game, and
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Speaker 5: then the next one, the next one.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's it's a very very difficult test, bro,
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Speaker 3: very difficult.
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Speaker 4: What in the hell happened? Because I haven't spoken to
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Speaker 4: you guys ye.
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Speaker 3: For a while. Yeah, Victoria, that's a question.
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Speaker 4: On We sat there and watched that game as people
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Speaker 4: streamed in the other day, and we couldn't believe our eyes.
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Speaker 4: At three nothing. I ignored it because I thought it
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Speaker 4: was over. And you know what's happening here, Fellas. The
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Speaker 4: parallels are insane. Like the Nuggets, the Avs have been
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Speaker 4: favored in our favorite tonight. They've been favored in every
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Speaker 4: game in this series. The Nuggets when they played Minnesota
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Speaker 4: were favored in every game. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 4: They should be winning. Vegas thinks they should be winning.
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Speaker 4: We think they should be winning. Losing game one, we're
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Speaker 4: like rattled a bit, right, Okay, that's fine, you got
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Speaker 4: a blemish, big deal. Losing Game two after giving up
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Speaker 4: that lead with ten and a half of play, Oh,
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Speaker 4: that didn't look good. Losing Game three up three to
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Speaker 4: nothing was something I never thought possible. I never thought
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Speaker 4: that was possible. Sorry, never thought that this team, the
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Speaker 4: makeup of this team and these guys, never thought I'd
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Speaker 4: see it. I have no idea what to expect, boys.
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Speaker 2: I don't either like I legit Moses. I think if
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Speaker 2: the Avs went out tonight and just kind of laid
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Speaker 2: an egg because of the disappointment of the first three games,
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Speaker 2: I would be surprised. If they came out and they
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Speaker 2: won this game six to one, I would not be surprised.
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Speaker 2: But I just don't know which one you're gonna get.
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Speaker 2: And now you're talking about another wrinkle that's sort of
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Speaker 2: thrown in this or a variable and obstacle. Here's Bennar's
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Speaker 2: update on McKinnon and Natchushkin.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have any updates, like those guys are
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Speaker 6: getting treatment, they're getting evaluated, like I don't. It could
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Speaker 6: be tomorrow morning before we know, it could be game
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Speaker 6: time before we know. So we're just planned for all
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Speaker 6: scenarios and then go from.
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Speaker 2: There for vals at upper or lower lower. So if
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Speaker 2: you're dealing with now, you know, the guys in your
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Speaker 2: top six mos already we're struggling in this series already.
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Speaker 2: And now if you're saying that two of them are
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Speaker 2: now eliminated from the discussion potentially, whoh okay, then.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if this is like yeah, if it's
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Speaker 5: like November two and you're coming to Vegas to play
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Speaker 5: a game without vowel and without Nate and Kale.
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Speaker 3: Doing what he's doing, you can win a game.
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Speaker 5: It's just I'm looking at the bigger picture, and the
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Speaker 5: preponderance is the right preponderance of evidence is so.
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Speaker 3: Great that you're like, go Lee.
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Speaker 5: But but as a as a player, as an organization,
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Speaker 5: you have to think about one game and that's tonight.
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Speaker 3: That's it. Well, it's it's gonna be tough.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna but you don't want to see mos. And
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Speaker 4: it was sad almost watching the Cavaliers just walk away
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Speaker 4: from competition last night. I don't know if you watched
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Speaker 4: any of the game. I just I glanced at it
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Speaker 4: when they knew it was over, so they didn't even
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Speaker 4: bother showing up. I think when you do that and
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Speaker 4: you don't compete, that that speaks a little more about
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Speaker 4: your entire I mean more than your team, Yeah, the
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Speaker 4: makeup of your organization. If you do that, that's that's
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Speaker 4: not acceptable. And hockey players are built different. I know
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Speaker 4: they are. They are they have pride. But not having
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Speaker 4: McKinnon if he doesn't play tonightof he's just half there
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Speaker 4: not having Val? Did they? Is there any summary of
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Speaker 4: Vowel's injury? The broadcast never mentioned it, by the way,
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Speaker 4: never mentioned Val was out. I didn't even know.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he left early. No, there's no SUMMARYA there's no. No,
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Speaker 5: they're not going to specify what the situation is.
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Speaker 2: But it wasn't like McKinnon didn't he didn't slapshot off
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Speaker 2: the knee.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, You did not see him laboring on the ice,
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Speaker 5: try to get up and down the ice.
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Speaker 3: No, you didn't see any of that.
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Speaker 4: I thought the comments and we'll get into coach Bednar
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Speaker 4: because I know he's been the subject of a lot
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Speaker 4: of commentary. I have a lot to say about coach Bednar,
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Speaker 4: and I know you guys spoke about him yesterday. But
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Speaker 4: he made a comment yesterday that said, we'll take half
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Speaker 4: of Nathan McKinnon basically because he's better than some of
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Speaker 4: the stuff we have. What is he saying when he
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Speaker 4: says that. I mean, that's not the exact quote. I'm paraphrasing,
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Speaker 4: but I don't know if you guys read that quote,
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Speaker 4: and it spoke volumes about some of the other players.
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Speaker 2: I I know what you're talking about. I thought maybe
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Speaker 2: that was just more of a compliment to Nate than
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Speaker 2: it was maybe in a side at some other guys.
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Speaker 2: Although in this series, I hate to keep going back
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Speaker 2: to this, but Vicky went on on Monday, I have
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Speaker 2: been so utterly disappointed with somebody in particular, and I
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Speaker 2: feel bad because I feel like I'm beating up on him.
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Speaker 2: But there's no way for me to get around this.
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Speaker 2: When it was January emotion, brock Nelson had twelve goals
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Speaker 2: that month, eighteen points overall. He followed that up with
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Speaker 2: his December was great too. He had like eight goals
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Speaker 2: and fourteen points or something like that, and all he
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Speaker 2: could think in the middle of the year was like,
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Speaker 2: if you get that out of your second line center,
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Speaker 2: you haven't had that since the championship year when Cadri
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Speaker 2: was just motoring, it would be such a huge difference maker.
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Speaker 2: And we're sitting here on the brink of elimination tonight,
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Speaker 2: the thirteenth playoff game, going into the thirteenth playoff game
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Speaker 2: of this postseason, and Brock Nelson's got three points, two
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Speaker 2: of those being empty netters. And that's just something where
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Speaker 2: it's so hard to put an unfair I'd say, to
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Speaker 2: put so much more pressure on the guys outside of
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Speaker 2: that in your top six. Now, Brock, to his credit,
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Speaker 2: he was at a presser yesterday and he was asked
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Speaker 2: about his game. Right now, here's what he's sure.
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Speaker 7: I think even more frustrating, just giving how the games
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Speaker 7: kind of played out too. So I have to just
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Speaker 7: continue to believe that you're going to get more looks
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Speaker 7: and capitalize on it and be a difference maker and
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Speaker 7: turn it like Mansis we had.
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Speaker 4: We had our looks.
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Speaker 7: A couple of looks and second off the post, you know,
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Speaker 7: changes the game a bit, but you should have, would have,
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Speaker 7: could have and where are where we're at right now.
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Speaker 7: And I think it's just having that belief individually for
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Speaker 7: myself to step up be more of an impact offensively,
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Speaker 7: and I think as a group, the belief that you know,
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Speaker 7: we were one of the best teams in the league
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Speaker 7: all year, we're capable of, you know, coming back, and
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Speaker 7: obviously just starts with one game time.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that you were kind of hinting at
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Speaker 2: this earlier, moj I don't think if you're anybody in
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Speaker 2: that locker room, you can't think of the gigantic mountain
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Speaker 2: that you have to climb of winning four straight games.
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Speaker 2: It really has to be let's get this one. Just
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Speaker 2: get this one tonight, because here's what I think again,
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Speaker 2: just to reiterate, I'm not at zero percent that the
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Speaker 2: Avs come back and win this series. It's close, but
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Speaker 2: I'm not at zero and it's for just if you
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Speaker 2: can win tonight, you get Game five at home, you
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Speaker 2: get Game five. I want to see how Vegas handles
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Speaker 2: the pressure of the AVS winning a couple of games
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Speaker 2: in a row. That's what I want to say, because
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Speaker 2: maybe they can handle it just fine, but I just
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Speaker 2: want to see.
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Speaker 3: It, you know.
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Speaker 4: I guess I could counter that by saying, didn't you
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Speaker 4: see it in the last game when they were down
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Speaker 4: three to nothing and they didn't even blink? I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 4: Vegas was down three to nothing and they said, okay, well.
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Speaker 3: Well they know they raged, they got angry, and then okay, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I would say, do you do you feel like the
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Speaker 2: as felt pressure when Minnesota won Game three though, or
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Speaker 2: they just kind of like, yeah, no.
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Speaker 5: I think they felt a little bit like, let's let's
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Speaker 5: build be a little bit more serious here in game four,
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Speaker 5: you know, I mean, let's let's go.
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Speaker 3: They weren't freaking out.
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Speaker 5: They were like, oh my god, we're gonna lose Game four,
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Speaker 5: We're gonna go home, the series gonna be tied.
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Speaker 3: They weren't doing that.
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Speaker 4: No, there's something off. I think, you know, at the
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Speaker 4: end of the day, some of the guys on this team,
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Speaker 4: and it's tough to identify some of them are playing scared.
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Speaker 4: They are most I saw a two on none in
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Speaker 4: that Vegas for a chance to make it for nothing.
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Speaker 4: It was two on none. Nelly and Brett could have
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Speaker 4: been two on none and they could have at least
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Speaker 4: got a shot.
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Speaker 3: They didn't even get a shot off.
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Speaker 4: I know, I be when I saw that, I said,
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Speaker 4: what on Earth? And at that point they were up
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Speaker 4: through nothing?
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Speaker 5: Correct, And that's the difference between winning that game, because
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Speaker 5: now you're up for nothing and having them score that
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Speaker 5: power play goal at the start of the of the
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Speaker 5: second period and so on. Brett does does Breton Nelson
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Speaker 5: do you think that he knows he's in one right now?
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Speaker 5: A little bit offensively?
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Speaker 2: Of course?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course he does.
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Speaker 5: And the evidence is he had a couple of breaks
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Speaker 5: on Carter Hart and it just it didn't go in,
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Speaker 5: wouldn't go in. And you can sense the frustration in
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Speaker 5: his voice how he's feeling about it. He knows it's hard.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they're just in one right now in a
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Speaker 5: big time way. And so you play the game, you
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Speaker 5: do your best. We'll see what happens.
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Speaker 4: As a And people are saying this and I'm not
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Speaker 4: trying to be too harsh.
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Speaker 3: I'm not.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to look at this with the eyes wide open.
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Speaker 4: So it said half the team is hurt. What are
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Speaker 4: you gonna do well? Vegas was missing mark Stone and
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Speaker 4: I know that's one player. Guys, get hurt. I get it.
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Speaker 4: I I know the kale makes a big difference. Guys,
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Speaker 4: get hurt. It doesn't excuse blowing a three nothing lead.
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Speaker 4: It just doesn't. I mean hurt versus three nothing totally,
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Speaker 4: there's no there's no excuse for the hell. You can
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Speaker 4: go into a shell, you can do what they do
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Speaker 4: when they take the lead. There's no excuse for blowing
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Speaker 4: that lead. And and I guess excuse making is easy
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Speaker 4: to do when you can't find the reason why.
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Speaker 5: So that's that's that's it right there. We spent yesterday
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Speaker 5: going why why why? Vic At this point, I'm not
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Speaker 5: sure we're going to get any satisfaction as to why.
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Speaker 5: We'll have to wait and see. Most that's it.
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Speaker 4: We were asking why for the Nuggets too. I can't
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Speaker 4: tell you it's just a couple of series later. But
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Speaker 4: the parallels between the way these seasons are going is unreal.
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll get back to this in just a second.
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Speaker 2: Shank or your hometown injury lawyers. In a car accident
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Speaker 2: called three zero three two two two two two two two.
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Speaker 2: So we'll get back to this in a moment. There's
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Speaker 2: a lot more to it and there's a larger discussion,
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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to hold off on this as as
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Speaker 2: much as I can until after the season is officially over,
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Speaker 2: whenever that may be. If it's tonight, two days from now,
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Speaker 2: a week from now, whatever, but it's there, so we'll
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Speaker 2: discuss it next.
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Speaker 6: For him to be able to come back out to
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Speaker 6: get some work done early or late in the second
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Speaker 6: period in the intermission, and be able to come out
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Speaker 6: and then even try and help us on the power
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Speaker 6: play and empty net situations. If that's all he can do,
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Speaker 6: we'll take it.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 6: It's better than anything else, in my opinion, we can
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Speaker 6: put on the ice. But it just shows this character
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Speaker 6: and leadership and his desire to win.
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Speaker 2: It'spennard talking about McKennon, and I do remember after he
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Speaker 2: took that puck off the knee, and he very clearly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there was one moment where I think it
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Speaker 2: was clear as day. It was sort of a loose
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Speaker 2: puck trickling towards your offensive zone and he's in a
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Speaker 2: foot race with somebody on Vegas forget who it was,
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Speaker 2: and he lost the foot race, and you're like, all right, well,
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Speaker 2: if that's happening, then Nathan McKinnon is not right. So
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Speaker 2: he goes to the bench. Shortly after that, Vic and
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Speaker 2: I read Bednar's lips. He gets to the bench and
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Speaker 2: Bednar just says this, can you do power play? He's like,
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Speaker 2: can I just have your shot? Can I have your
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Speaker 2: one timer available on the power play?
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Speaker 4: I don't know what.
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Speaker 2: Status McKinnon is going to be in this game. It's
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Speaker 2: certainly not going to be one hundred percent like you take. Look,
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Speaker 2: I've never taken a puck in an area like that,
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Speaker 2: but I've taken a baseball or two.
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Speaker 4: That stuff hurts for days, for days. It doesn't feel right, guys,
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Was it the inside or outside.
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Speaker 3: Of the knee?
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Speaker 2: Outside? Right moment?
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Speaker 3: Outside? Yeah? Yeah, right above that.
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Speaker 2: Outside bone, kind of next to your knee sort of
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Speaker 2: thing like.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So they throw on that shin pad thing
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Speaker 4: and then it stops at that point.
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Speaker 3: There's a little gap between, right, it's like a catchers. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's it's like that, it's it's right above that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean a brutal brutal shot like right
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Speaker 5: square in the ouch.
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Speaker 4: Square soaked one. As they say, it's a purely speculative fret,
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Speaker 4: right you you assume it's a just a deep, deep bruise,
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Speaker 4: deep bruise.
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Speaker 5: Correct, not broken. But there's not a whole lot of padding.
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Speaker 5: I mean in terms of your leg and muscles, not
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Speaker 5: a whole lot of padding there. It's just like man
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Speaker 5: the worst spot, bad spot.
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Speaker 4: Yes, listen, I mean I am. I'm trying to be
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Speaker 4: gentle about this. But with or without Nathan McKinnon, show
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Speaker 4: me something, Yeah, it might be an opportunity for something
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Speaker 4: else or someone else, show me something.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is.
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Speaker 2: And this is the I guess the conversation they didn't
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Speaker 2: want to have yet because I would rather reserve this
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Speaker 2: for when the season's done. But it's already out there.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's asking it, so screw it, let's do it. There's
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Speaker 2: been like this really big divide in the middle of
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Speaker 2: people who want to see Bednar go after this and
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Speaker 2: people who don't think that Bednar is the issue here.
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Speaker 2: And we've said, in the sake of honesty that we
18:31
Speaker 2: have relationship with Bednar on this show, and so we're
18:33
Speaker 2: a little bit biased i'd say, but I asked the
18:39
Speaker 2: question of if you think this is a coaching issue,
18:47
Speaker 2: like me and Mosher, we're talking about Victor's a pie
18:49
Speaker 2: chart when things go wrong, right, and you can divvy
18:51
Speaker 2: that up, divvy that up however you feel, And coaching
18:54
Speaker 2: is certainly a large slice of the pie in all
18:57
Speaker 2: of this. The question of how much determines what do
19:03
Speaker 2: you feel as far as responsibility on players for results
19:07
Speaker 2: as opposed to coaches, and whether it's success or failure.
19:11
Speaker 2: I always put the largest portion of this on the players,
19:14
Speaker 2: because they're the ones with the ball in their hands,
19:17
Speaker 2: the puck on their stick, though whatever, and in the
19:21
Speaker 2: case of where the ass find themselves right now? Do
19:25
Speaker 2: I think like some coaching stuff is a factor in this?
19:27
Speaker 2: Of course they do. But I do also believe that,
19:31
Speaker 2: as you pointed out, Vic, you got a two on
19:34
Speaker 2: one to make it a four to nothing game potentially,
19:37
Speaker 2: and you don't get a shot on net. Bennark can't
19:40
Speaker 2: coach that brock Nelson sitting there in three points in
19:43
Speaker 2: twelve playoff games. I don't know how much more coaching
19:45
Speaker 2: is gonna help in that departments.
19:48
Speaker 4: And dressed by Thomas Hurdle, I don't know how you
19:50
Speaker 4: coach that. I mean yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm
19:52
Speaker 4: sure there's they're coached properly to make that play. It
19:56
Speaker 4: just looked bad there.
19:57
Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is, I'm this is like coaching
20:01
Speaker 2: isn't responsible. But I said the same thing when it
20:03
Speaker 2: came to Adelman, like, do I think that Adelman in
20:06
Speaker 2: some decisions that he made affected the Nuggets in a
20:09
Speaker 2: negative manner?
20:10
Speaker 3: Yes? I do, But.
20:12
Speaker 2: At some point, make a shot, get a stop.
20:15
Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys have already said this, and I'm
20:18
Speaker 4: not trying to repeat everything that was said yesterday. My apologies,
20:21
Speaker 4: but if you're coming to this show and you don't understand,
20:26
Speaker 4: we we have Jared Didnar as our guest on a
20:28
Speaker 4: weekly basis. I consider Jared Bednar a friend. I'm I'm
20:33
Speaker 4: slanted here, and I'm sure you guys have already brought
20:35
Speaker 4: that up. I'm slanted, and I admit it. I'm slanted.
20:37
Speaker 4: I feel awful for the guy because someone is going
20:41
Speaker 4: to pay a price here and I don't know where
20:42
Speaker 4: it's gonna go. I'm not sure you know the mob
20:45
Speaker 4: mentality how far it will take it, but I know
20:48
Speaker 4: and as you guys know most you certainly know, I
20:50
Speaker 4: know the work he puts in. You don't last with
20:53
Speaker 4: a team for a decade. You're not the second longest
20:56
Speaker 4: tenured coach in the NHL without reason, because you dominate
21:02
Speaker 4: the room with credibility. People like you in the room
21:06
Speaker 4: that most coaches don't last that long because the room
21:09
Speaker 4: gets sick of them and they're disposed and displaced. Jared
21:13
Speaker 4: Bednar has danced for ten years in that room. He
21:17
Speaker 4: understands how to make things click and work. I know
21:21
Speaker 4: he works his tailoff. Why his team, for some reason
21:26
Speaker 4: in this series failed to show up is a mystery
21:30
Speaker 4: to me, and correct. He's gonna take part blame for that,
21:34
Speaker 4: like it or not, as much as I hate it.
21:36
Speaker 4: He's going to because that's.
21:37
Speaker 5: Sports and that's part of the job. There's not a
21:41
Speaker 5: guy in that room who is going, oh God, I
21:45
Speaker 5: hate this guy.
21:46
Speaker 3: His message stale. You know, I don't want to play
21:50
Speaker 3: for this guy. I don't like. There's none of that
21:53
Speaker 3: going on whatsoever.
21:55
Speaker 4: Almost the opposite, he correct, And the.
21:58
Speaker 3: Thing is is that he puts in the work.
22:01
Speaker 5: If you listen to EJ talk about Beddar and about
22:05
Speaker 5: the work he puts in and I mean personally working.
22:09
Speaker 5: I know some coaches around the Lake, Brett like their assistance,
22:13
Speaker 5: do a lot of stuff. I mean they do a
22:15
Speaker 5: lot of breakdowns, a lot of coaching, a lot of this,
22:18
Speaker 5: a lot of that. He puts in the work. He's
22:21
Speaker 5: there with the guys. He's an even keele guy. He's
22:25
Speaker 5: got the knowledge. So they respect that. So they know
22:29
Speaker 5: that they know that he knows that, they know he
22:34
Speaker 5: he knows the game. I mean backward forward, so on
22:38
Speaker 5: and so forth. He's not he's not a jerk. He's
22:40
Speaker 5: not yelling at people. He's not one of those history
22:43
Speaker 5: on it kind of guys. He's got there, he's got
22:45
Speaker 5: their attention, he's got their you know, their belief in him.
22:49
Speaker 5: But it's just like, why is it not Yeah, why
22:52
Speaker 5: is it not doing this when it matters the most most.
22:55
Speaker 4: He's also a big boy. He understands how the business works.
22:58
Speaker 4: Of course, Yes, of course we've had these conversations before.
23:01
Speaker 4: I've had them with him. I have about the business
23:05
Speaker 4: of the ADHL, and he knows that it's pretty rare
23:09
Speaker 4: to last this long. I also know this, and everybody
23:12
Speaker 4: listening you know this. If Jared Bednar were let go tomorrow,
23:17
Speaker 4: he'd have a job in two minutes.
23:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, less than that twenty eight seconds.
23:22
Speaker 4: Here's he'd have a job before he was let go.
23:24
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, I think he said this to
23:28
Speaker 2: us in the air.
23:29
Speaker 4: I think so.
23:32
Speaker 2: That he thought there's a chance he was getting let
23:34
Speaker 2: go after twenty twenty one, right, and that was the
23:36
Speaker 2: year before that they won the cop at that disappointing
23:38
Speaker 2: finish in the playoffs, and then it was kind of line, well.
23:40
Speaker 5: He thought Brett, Brett, he thought he was going to
23:42
Speaker 5: be let go after they had the forty eight points.
23:45
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean his first year. So he thought
23:47
Speaker 8: it as they're a chance I can go. Then as
23:50
Speaker 8: a coach, you know what the situation is that, especially
23:56
Speaker 8: in a moment like this, and this is what especially
24:00
Speaker 8: sort of I guess, throws a wrench in what you
24:05
Speaker 8: do moving forward if things were to end tonight or
24:07
Speaker 8: end in a couple of days or whatever. The Avs
24:11
Speaker 8: are so pot committed to this roster. They have traded
24:15
Speaker 8: away a ton of assets as far as draft picks.
24:19
Speaker 8: They have a whole bunch of people locked into contracts
24:22
Speaker 8: long term already, Like they've made the commitments to this
24:26
Speaker 8: and even if you are going to change the roster
24:28
Speaker 8: up most you can't do too much, Like you aren't
24:31
Speaker 8: gonna come here with twenty new guys next year, so correct,
24:35
Speaker 8: it's only a limited amount of changes that you can make.
24:38
Speaker 4: Now.
24:39
Speaker 2: This is what I always say when it comes to
24:40
Speaker 2: coaching and disappointing ends of the season, it feels like
24:45
Speaker 2: fire the coach is the easiest place you can go
24:48
Speaker 2: to because it's it's just this is the person in charge,
24:53
Speaker 2: and I want something new, So here it is this
24:56
Speaker 2: is these a lot.
24:56
Speaker 4: Of times, it's the only movie you can make well.
24:58
Speaker 2: And my whole thing is you can say that and
25:01
Speaker 2: I would totally understand it, but you got to give
25:04
Speaker 2: me at least one reason outside of I just want
25:07
Speaker 2: to change that. You have to give me a specific
25:09
Speaker 2: reason as to what is he not doing that somebody
25:12
Speaker 2: else could do, and whether that's oh, I think the
25:14
Speaker 2: message got stale or schematically he's not good enough at
25:18
Speaker 2: game planning, X, Y and Z, Like, you have to
25:20
Speaker 2: give me something other than I just want to change
25:23
Speaker 2: for change, change his sake.
25:25
Speaker 3: Let me.
25:27
Speaker 5: People don't want to hear this, but it's the truth.
25:31
Speaker 5: How close are they right now? How close are they
25:34
Speaker 5: to winning.
25:34
Speaker 2: They're close, whole thing.
25:36
Speaker 3: How close?
25:37
Speaker 2: Look, man, you get a Logan O'Connor goal in that
25:39
Speaker 2: Game one, you get Jack Dury thrown one in to
25:42
Speaker 2: make it four to nothing. If this is a two
25:44
Speaker 2: to one series as opposed to three zero right now,
25:46
Speaker 2: I bet you most ABS fans still feel really good
25:49
Speaker 2: about your chances.
25:50
Speaker 4: Guys three in their favor tonight.
25:51
Speaker 3: What does that tell you?
25:53
Speaker 4: They've been favored in every game?
25:55
Speaker 3: So, Vick, what what I'm trying to tell you?
25:57
Speaker 5: And nobody wants to hear this, And it's tough to
25:59
Speaker 5: hear because you're down oh three and the task in
26:02
Speaker 5: front of you is herculean, But I mean, really, how
26:08
Speaker 5: many changes do they really need in anything? Power play,
26:13
Speaker 5: even strength play, shorthanded play players, coach, I mean, you
26:21
Speaker 5: need the makeup of the team, the character of the team,
26:24
Speaker 5: the guys in the room. How much do they really
26:27
Speaker 5: need to change to be up two games to one
26:30
Speaker 5: instead down oh three? And you go back to the games,
26:32
Speaker 5: Like you said the Logan O'Connor post in game one,
26:37
Speaker 5: how many changes really need to be made so that
26:40
Speaker 5: they're upright now, let's say two to one, or they're
26:43
Speaker 5: in the series. At one two as opposed to down
26:45
Speaker 5: three to zero. It's dude, And what I'm trying to say, Vick,
26:49
Speaker 5: is that in Stanley could playoff hockey.
26:52
Speaker 3: It's not a lot, bro, it's this. It's this. But
26:55
Speaker 3: that's the difference.
26:56
Speaker 5: And it's been the difference in every single one of
26:59
Speaker 5: these damn games. It sucks because that's just the way
27:02
Speaker 5: it is.
27:02
Speaker 2: Real quick, most tell Vic what you said yesterday about
27:06
Speaker 2: what's happening in Tampa.
27:09
Speaker 5: Oh, John Cooper, well, he's lost. He's lost in the
27:12
Speaker 5: first round with his team with Andrey Vassilevki, the big cat,
27:15
Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer. You know, Cooch're off and all
27:19
Speaker 5: the guys, like Brayden points all the guys, he's lost
27:23
Speaker 5: in the first round four years in a row, four
27:25
Speaker 5: years in a row in the first round.
27:26
Speaker 3: He ain't going anywhere. He ain't going anywhere.
27:30
Speaker 4: Listen, again, the easy thing to do the it's a reflex.
27:38
Speaker 4: Almost teams do this. It's a reflex and and unfortunately
27:42
Speaker 4: they're losing right now to a team that did exactly
27:45
Speaker 4: what I'm about to explain. But it's different because you
27:49
Speaker 4: know the reputation of a Bruce Cassidy, right and how
27:52
Speaker 4: he wears people out. He wears players out most you
27:54
Speaker 4: heard those those whispers, right, he wears yet for for this.
27:58
Speaker 3: For this particular team. But hell was he in Boston?
28:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wears people out. You've heard. Listen, guys, Jared
28:05
Speaker 4: Bednar's been your ten years. Have you ever heard a
28:08
Speaker 4: story about him wearing somebody? It doesn't happen. No, The
28:13
Speaker 4: credibility he has in the room is precious. So if
28:17
Speaker 4: you want to go that direction, and I know the
28:21
Speaker 4: mob's already out there, I read, I hear, I see
28:24
Speaker 4: like you all do. I know it's there. Is that
28:27
Speaker 4: going to change the face of this team? If you
28:31
Speaker 4: think for sure a coaching change will develop another Stanley
28:35
Speaker 4: Cup or two will lead to that, more power to you.
28:38
Speaker 4: I highly doubt it, though, I.
28:40
Speaker 5: Do, And I mean that Jenda bump. Yeah, and the bump.
28:44
Speaker 5: I mean, listen to me. Bruce goes to Vegas after
28:49
Speaker 5: Boston and he wins the cup.
28:50
Speaker 3: Right. Did he win the Cup right away? Yeah? He
28:52
Speaker 3: won the Cup right away.
28:53
Speaker 5: The bor got fired, remember that, Brett, Yeah, the boor
28:56
Speaker 5: gets got He comes in, he wins the cup right away.
29:00
Speaker 5: I mean, did he forget how to coach in the
29:02
Speaker 5: span of three and a half years, three years period,
29:06
Speaker 5: and of course he did not, No, he didn't, but
29:09
Speaker 5: they fired him and they get Tortorella in here. This
29:14
Speaker 5: particular group of players, these guys for Vegas. I guess
29:18
Speaker 5: they needed a different voice. I guess, you know, Bruce
29:21
Speaker 5: war on them or whatever.
29:22
Speaker 4: But Torch is not a long term answer. That's the thing, man,
29:26
Speaker 4: you know.
29:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna be having the same damn conversation in
29:33
Speaker 3: a year or a year.
29:34
Speaker 5: Let's let's say he stays, he's only in a contract
29:36
Speaker 5: for the postseason. If he stayed, we're having this same
29:40
Speaker 5: damn conversation because he's gone and somebody else is in
29:43
Speaker 5: here in a year or or a year and a half.
29:46
Speaker 5: Trust me when I tell you that. But so it
29:49
Speaker 5: tells me it's all it's it's in there. It's on
29:52
Speaker 5: the players, man, it is.
29:53
Speaker 4: It is the people, and things can be different. Like
29:56
Speaker 4: I'll give you an instant right now of two coaches
29:59
Speaker 4: that were in this Ks family that when they let
30:03
Speaker 4: go of Michael Malone. As much as I value Michael Malone,
30:06
Speaker 4: I could understand it because I saw it with my
30:08
Speaker 4: own eyes. I saw what happened in the room I
30:10
Speaker 4: saw the team. I saw it, I understood it. This
30:15
Speaker 4: one would drive me crazy because I don't understand it.
30:18
Speaker 4: I'm not in the room, and I know the players
30:20
Speaker 4: would do everything they could to defend him.
30:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so.
30:25
Speaker 4: I understand making these moves and we're we're speaking before
30:28
Speaker 4: there's still a game to be played.
30:29
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I hesitated to do this now. But
30:32
Speaker 2: it's like it's already out there.
30:33
Speaker 4: It's already it's already out because the mob's already formed. Yeah, listen,
30:36
Speaker 4: there are people in this town. Whenever something goes wrong
30:38
Speaker 4: with the team. When you know you know the people,
30:41
Speaker 4: you know them. I don't need to point them out.
30:42
Speaker 4: You know them in the media. The first thing they
30:45
Speaker 4: do when something goes south is asking plead for a
30:49
Speaker 4: coaching change. It's it's the it's the courus that it's
30:53
Speaker 4: so easy to predict. You know exactly who I'm talking
30:57
Speaker 4: about in this town. A bunch of guys. All you
31:00
Speaker 4: do is ask for coaching changes. That's all you do.
31:02
Speaker 4: That's your only dance coaching change. Sometimes that doesn't work.
31:09
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
31:11
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Speaker 2: two to five, So it's funny you you brought this
31:43
Speaker 2: up earlier. Vic and I do want to talk about
31:47
Speaker 2: this because the story of the Knicks right now in
31:50
Speaker 2: the postseason is pretty crazy. They're beating teams buy an
31:54
Speaker 2: average in the postseason of twenty points per game. And
32:00
Speaker 2: the last thing you want to see the Avs do
32:02
Speaker 2: is exactly what the Calves did last night, which is
32:05
Speaker 2: basically huck their tail between their legs and go home.
32:10
Speaker 2: But how much does that matter moving forward for the Knicks?
32:17
Speaker 2: And I got a question about a rumor last year
32:19
Speaker 2: of somebody who might have taken over as the Knicks coach,
32:22
Speaker 2: and if he was the coach right now, what would
32:24
Speaker 2: the conversations be. We'll get to it next, Nelly, you can.
32:28
Speaker 2: You can turn this down, but when they get to
32:30
Speaker 2: the chorus, you turn it back up.
32:31
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know what it is about.
32:32
Speaker 2: There's something about it.
32:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could be in the worst mood, but as
32:35
Speaker 4: soon as waffles.
32:45
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about the song. It
32:47
Speaker 2: just makes me happy. It brings a smile out.
32:49
Speaker 3: You so allow me.
32:52
Speaker 2: I got like three quick things I want to say
32:55
Speaker 2: about the next winning last night, because I know that
32:57
Speaker 2: New York's going crazy and I'm not. It's I don't
33:02
Speaker 2: know if you feel this way, Vic, There's some teams.
33:04
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with the team. I have
33:05
Speaker 2: a problem with the team's fan base more than the
33:07
Speaker 2: actual team itself.
33:09
Speaker 3: Raise your hand.
33:09
Speaker 4: If you're tired of Fat Joe and company sitting there
33:12
Speaker 4: in the front row.
33:12
Speaker 6: That's it.
33:13
Speaker 2: Like I just I don't like the Knicks fans.
33:17
Speaker 4: You see, they got moved yesterday. The Cleveland folks. They
33:20
Speaker 4: they had front row seats and they moved them up
33:22
Speaker 4: a little bit. I don't know how they did that.
33:24
Speaker 2: How are you allowed to do that's got to be
33:26
Speaker 2: like an airline saying, hey, if you take the next
33:29
Speaker 2: flight as opposed to this, one will give you, you know,
33:31
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars in flight credit or something.
33:33
Speaker 4: Someone wrote Knicks fan base rules. No, you know what
33:35
Speaker 4: the Knicks fan base is right now. They're like every
33:38
Speaker 4: fan base who hasn't tasted victory in a long time.
33:41
Speaker 4: Remember the last time they won an NBA championship. Most
33:45
Speaker 4: of us listening and doing the show, I know Breton's
33:47
Speaker 4: now they weren't even born.
33:49
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the thing, I think it's fun to
33:53
Speaker 2: watch a fan base that hasn't had success.
33:55
Speaker 4: Finally, the whole success but except New York.
33:58
Speaker 2: The difference is Knicks fans still act like they invented
34:00
Speaker 2: the sport.
34:01
Speaker 4: That's what sorry. Got a lot of New York friends.
34:05
Speaker 4: I lived in New York for a while. I lived there,
34:07
Speaker 4: loved it. I cannot stand New York fans.
34:10
Speaker 2: But sorry, here's what I'm getting at, though, Vic, And
34:13
Speaker 2: this is why it's it's a little bit different for me.
34:16
Speaker 2: First of all, the Knicks are on an eleven game
34:20
Speaker 2: winning streak heading out the twenty third. Though eleven straight games,
34:25
Speaker 2: they are beating teams by an average in average of
34:29
Speaker 2: twenty points per nine. They are dominating them in close
34:32
Speaker 2: out games, three of them this uh this postseason. They
34:37
Speaker 2: beat the Hawks one forty to eighty nine, they beat
34:41
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers one forty four to one fourteen,
34:44
Speaker 2: and they've beaten aw the Cavs one thirty to ninety three.
34:47
Speaker 2: They've stolen the souls of these teams in close out games.
34:50
Speaker 4: I thought there was no way the representative from the
34:53
Speaker 4: East would have a chance to win the NBA title.
34:57
Speaker 4: I'm beginning to wonder if the Knicks might be the
34:59
Speaker 4: favorite the playing in the confidence and swagger with which
35:02
Speaker 4: they're playing. I not the favorite, but a puncher's chance
35:05
Speaker 4: to win this thing.
35:06
Speaker 2: Well, just some rapid fire takes for you. Number one,
35:11
Speaker 2: I do think they're in for rude awakening with whoever
35:13
Speaker 2: comes out of the West. It ain't gonna look like
35:15
Speaker 2: that Nicks. It's going to be as hard as you
35:17
Speaker 2: could possibly imagine. That's one. Number two, God, what I
35:20
Speaker 2: love to play in the Eastern Conference. My road to
35:22
Speaker 2: the finals was the Hawks sixers in Calves. That's my
35:26
Speaker 2: road to the finals.
35:27
Speaker 4: That's a good point. Consider the opposition. You know what,
35:29
Speaker 4: I'm not even considering the opposition when we talk about
35:32
Speaker 4: the news. Look at who they beat.
35:34
Speaker 2: It's the Atlanta Hawks, the seventy six ers, who are
35:36
Speaker 2: a plan team, or the Calves.
35:38
Speaker 4: That's a very good point.
35:39
Speaker 2: Number three, yep, number three. I am very happy to
35:44
Speaker 2: see this because you never get this. Jalen Brunson a
35:49
Speaker 2: couple of years ago made the decision to leave one
35:53
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars on the table through the idea of
35:58
Speaker 2: can we keep this team together? And I think in
36:01
Speaker 2: his head he's like, we play in the East, much
36:04
Speaker 2: easier road to the finals. If I can keep this
36:06
Speaker 2: team together, maybe we can get success out of this.
36:09
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see that somebody who this never happens,
36:13
Speaker 2: where somebody leaves that amount of money on the table,
36:15
Speaker 2: did that and it seems to have worked out for
36:18
Speaker 2: him won the Eastern Conference finals now heading to the
36:20
Speaker 2: NBA Finals. I am happy for Jalen Brunton if nothing else,
36:24
Speaker 2: but the last thing I could think of is this.
36:28
Speaker 2: When the Knicks fired TIBs last year, there's a big
36:33
Speaker 2: rumor that, hey, Michael Malone's in New York. Guy seems
36:37
Speaker 2: to be a good fit, seems to be a team
36:40
Speaker 2: that's ready made to kind of compete right away. Can
36:45
Speaker 2: you imagine what the discourse would be in this town
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Speaker 2: if it's not Mike Brown and it's Michael Malone that
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Speaker 2: just did this for the NIXT What the hell would
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Speaker 2: we be talking about and how many people would be
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Speaker 2: losing their collective minds over it.
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Speaker 4: Well, Mike Brown just a different personality, right, He's much different.
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Speaker 4: I've had the pleasure to meet Mike Brown. He is
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Speaker 4: one of the nicest, just low key dudes around.
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Speaker 3: He's low key.
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Speaker 4: He's just a different kind of coach. Yeah, and that's
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Speaker 4: what they thought they needed. Yep, they needed that. They
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Speaker 4: needed to take the temperature down a little bit. You know,
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Speaker 4: everybody talks about coaches and fire up the room, fire up.
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Speaker 4: That's not Mike Brown. Mike Brown is a Hey, guys,
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Speaker 4: you're the team. I'm just here to shepherd you through
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Speaker 4: the playoffs. You're the team. That's the kind of coach he.
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Speaker 2: Is a lot more sort of Pete Carroll Ley vibes.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, that's his personality and it's working. Wonders again,
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Speaker 4: the amount of confidence. Hey, speaking of that, you don't
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Speaker 4: think Minnesota's looking at cat and saying damn, did we
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Speaker 4: make a mistake? Yeah, you know everybody's saying that is
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Speaker 4: Dallas saying, damn we let Jayleen Dallas has made all
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Speaker 4: kinds of mistakes New York right now, I'll get him,
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Speaker 4: right man. They look like they're having fun. I envied
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Speaker 4: the Knicks for that. That's a team of friends. They
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Speaker 4: all look like they're just they're smiling. Fun is winning, too.
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Speaker 4: Most fun is winning. But do you ever see teams
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Speaker 4: like the Knicks as much fun as they're having playing
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Speaker 4: basketball right now?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: It's well, I guess when you're winning, it's always fun, right,
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Speaker 5: but it's it's not super common. I keep going back
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Speaker 5: because I'm in this I'm here, I'm in this one
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Speaker 5: in this series. Why do you have a vibe? I mean,
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Speaker 5: how does the vibe come around? Why does the vibe stay?
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Speaker 5: You know what I was the whole time I've been thinking.
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Speaker 3: About that.
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Speaker 5: Okay, let's talk about the Knicks. Why do they have
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Speaker 5: such good vibe? I mean, why, why is everybody smiling?
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Speaker 5: Why is it going well? Sweeping?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 5: Why they but why are they sweeping Cleveland so hard?
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Speaker 5: Why do they have this internal bulo? And it may
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Speaker 5: dissipate once they get to the final. Who knows, I
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Speaker 5: don't know, but they've got it going on right now.
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Speaker 5: Why does Vegas just have this feel, this vibe, this
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Speaker 5: goodness about their team. There are some things that you
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Speaker 5: can't answer the.
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Speaker 3: Why it just is. And you want to find the why.
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Speaker 3: Well I don't. I don't know how to find the why.
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Speaker 5: It just is. Most everybody wants answers. I want answers.
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Speaker 5: I'm sure Bednar wants answers. Most Mike Brown has answers
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Speaker 5: only because they're freaking blowing teams off by fifty.
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Speaker 4: You just hit on something and it just to just
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Speaker 4: knock me upside the face. What Vegas and the Knicks
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Speaker 4: teams like that right now? What they have in common,
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Speaker 4: And it's abundantly clear when you're watching these games unfold.
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Speaker 4: Their players are playing for one another. You can see it,
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Speaker 4: you can feel it, the concept of playing for your teammate,
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Speaker 4: your brother, right you can see it on and the
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Speaker 4: court and on the ice. That's what those teams are doing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think about this, maybe not in the
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Speaker 2: case of the Knicks, but certainly in the case of
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Speaker 2: the two hockey series that are going on right now.
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Speaker 2: Do you not think moje that Montreal is kicking themselves
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Speaker 2: over the last couple of games, and especially you look
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Speaker 2: at last night, that place was rocking with about eleven
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Speaker 2: thirty left to go, looks like they have the go
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Speaker 2: ahead goal. They go up three to two, only for
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Speaker 2: that to be reversed because the puck was sitting there
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Speaker 2: on the blue line.
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Speaker 5: I just.
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine with how overwhelmingly of a favorite Carolina
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Speaker 2: was and all it takes, it's not all that different
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Speaker 2: from the AVS series. It's a couple of just little
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Speaker 2: moments in the game that add up to kind of
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Speaker 2: for Montreal so far. I know it's only two to one,
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Speaker 2: but ultimate heartbreak with the idea of what they could
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Speaker 2: be up right now in this series, it's just crazy
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Speaker 2: and it's just little things like that that compound on
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Speaker 2: top of each other. And the Aves have just been
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Speaker 2: on the the worst side of it in this series.
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Speaker 2: You know again, right, you aren't. You aren't getting throttled
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Speaker 2: by Vegas. There have been like periods where they've throttled you,
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Speaker 2: but you aren't getting crushed and outclassed. It's just moments
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Speaker 2: that they execute and you don't.
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Speaker 5: I completely agree. I'm gonna fix my computer here and
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Speaker 5: get back to you. It's just we always try to
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Speaker 5: find out why. I would love to sit here this
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Speaker 5: morning and delivered to Avalanche fans the why, and part
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Speaker 5: of the part of me struggling and being so flum
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Speaker 5: mixed by this is with a numbs I can give
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Speaker 5: you a lot more why with the Avs right this second,
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Speaker 5: it's hard to give.
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Speaker 3: A whole lot of why.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, wait, why did they so? Why?
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Speaker 3: White? White?
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Speaker 5: Why did they panic with when when they are when
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Speaker 5: they're up three to nothing they give up a power
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Speaker 5: play goal?
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Speaker 3: It's still many one.
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Speaker 4: That's the word.
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Speaker 3: It felt.
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Speaker 4: It felt like panic.
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Speaker 3: Why are they on their heels?
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Speaker 5: Why do they Why did that little bit of adversity
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Speaker 5: with a team that's been through a boat load as
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Speaker 5: a group and won the toughest battles, Why did they
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Speaker 5: get on their heels and give up the second one
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Speaker 5: like that?
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Speaker 3: Why is? Why is this happening?
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Speaker 5: Man? I want to give wise, but sometimes you just
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Speaker 5: you can try to pinpoint the wise, You can guess
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Speaker 5: at the wise.
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Speaker 3: You can give a little reason as to the why,
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Speaker 3: but it's not the whole why.
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Speaker 4: I think there are more parallels than you think though
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Speaker 4: you said you could identify what happened to the Nuggets,
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Speaker 4: but you can't do it with the Avs. And here's
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Speaker 4: what I'm identifying in both teams. Both teams in key
42:47
Speaker 4: series were missing key players. I'm not putting Aaron Gordon
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Speaker 4: on the level of Cale mccarr, but for that series
42:53
Speaker 4: he was very important. Aaron Gordon and Peyton Watson. So
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Speaker 4: your minus key players, and for whatever reason, not having
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Speaker 4: those players affected you mentally as much as it did physically.
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Speaker 4: But I could see some why I could the Nuggets
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Speaker 4: blowing a nineteen point lead at home, the Avs blowing
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Speaker 4: a three to nothing lead in the first the Nuggets
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Speaker 4: inability to respond to physicality, even when it was called
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Speaker 4: out publicly. The Evs and physicality, that's tougher to understand
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Speaker 4: because physical is part of hockey. But the inability to
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Speaker 4: respond by losing two games at home. How many times
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Speaker 4: most in the first forty games of the season they
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Speaker 4: lost two regulation games two They've now lost three in
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Speaker 4: a row in the series. Yep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: How many records were broken in this series? How many
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Speaker 4: times did they lead? What was their record when leading
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Speaker 4: after two periods? Forty?
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Speaker 5: You know, seventy four this season. Yeah, but in the
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Speaker 5: postseason it was seventy four and one. We're at seventy
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Speaker 5: four and one.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: There's so many things that like this should be automatic,
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Speaker 4: it shouldn't even be a question. We're looking at history.
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Speaker 4: This is historic.
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