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Ari Temkin previews the CFP National Championship game next Monday night, Indiana defying the odds, Transfer portal outlook for Big 12 te... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: You attune to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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Speaker 2: M Big twelve insider Ari Tempkin kind enough to join
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Speaker 2: us to talk all things college football, Friend of the program,
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Speaker 2: host of Big.
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Speaker 1: Twelve Today on tune In Radio. All right, welcome back.
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Speaker 1: How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm great, OC, How are you buddy doing? Great? Man?
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Speaker 1: What a wonderful football weekend between college football playoff and
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Speaker 1: the NFL and we've got a game tonight you can
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Speaker 1: hear right here on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
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Speaker 1: one FM. But I want to stick with you obviously
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Speaker 1: in the college football world. First of all, Indiana. We've
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Speaker 1: talked about them kind of as accessory to our other
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Speaker 1: Big twelve conversations, But what Kurtzignetti and Indiana are doing
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Speaker 1: right now is ridiculous. Are we about to see the
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Speaker 1: greatest program comeback in the history of sports in any
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Speaker 1: sport completed with the national championship?
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Speaker 3: I mean it feels like it, doesn't it. And you know,
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Speaker 3: it's interesting from a Big twelve perspective, because you know,
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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago Baylor won a national championship
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Speaker 3: in basketball, and I mean, you want to talk about
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Speaker 3: unbelievable stories and comebacks. When Scott Drew took over that
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Speaker 3: program in the midst of ncaa scandal where one teammate
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Speaker 3: killed another teammate and the head coach tried to cover
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Speaker 3: it up. I mean, contextually, I'm not sure that there
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Speaker 3: could be any comeback story as great as that one.
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Speaker 3: But in the vein of college football, we've seen, you know,
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Speaker 3: crazy stories in college basketball. And because you know there
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Speaker 3: it is a sport of turnover and more dependent upon
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Speaker 3: you know, one or two or three players, opposed to football,
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Speaker 3: which is so dependent upon so many players in cohesion together.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it feels like, despite the differences in
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Speaker 3: context here, that apro through their first nearly two hundred
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Speaker 3: years of football, loft nearly two hundred more games than
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Speaker 3: they won. I mean that that's true. They're at like
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Speaker 3: six hundred ninety eight losses before twenty twenty four and
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Speaker 3: nearly two hundred games under five hundred, so one of
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Speaker 3: the losingest programs in the history of college football. We
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Speaker 3: just have seen so few teams break through in college
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Speaker 3: football and to win at that level. I mean teams
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Speaker 3: have won conference championships in big time Bowl games and
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Speaker 3: have kind of come out of nowhere. But to do
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Speaker 3: what Indiana is doing is nothing short of a miracle.
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Speaker 3: And you know, oh see, I think the biggest piece
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Speaker 3: here from the Big Twelve would be you know, we've
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Speaker 3: talked a lot about the blue Ship ratio, and that's
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Speaker 3: essentially what this last game will be all about. Miami
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Speaker 3: is a blue shap ratio team Indiana is not. So
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Speaker 3: for a Big Twelve context, you know, there are no
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Speaker 3: teams that are north of that blue ship ratio, and
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Speaker 3: history suggests that if you're if you're not at the
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Speaker 3: blue ship ratio, you can't win a national championship. So
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Speaker 3: we'll see if Indiana can be the first team in
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Speaker 3: the modern era to do that.
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Speaker 1: Look on the surface level, that's one of the things
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Speaker 1: this moment more most interesting about this Indiana stories because
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, if you're Utah, if you're BYU, if
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Speaker 1: you're Texas Tech, if you're Colorado, if you're Illinois, if
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Speaker 1: you're whoever, if you're Vanderbilt, you're looking and you going,
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Speaker 1: if Indiana can do this, why can't we do it?
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Speaker 1: Is there a real answer is there a real answer
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Speaker 1: to that question for the Big twelve teams especially well,
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Speaker 1: because it's not like Indiana doesn't have support and they
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Speaker 1: pulled out twelve million bucks a year for their head coach.
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Speaker 1: They obviously have the funds necessary to compete at this level.
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Speaker 1: But if Indiana can do it, why can't.
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Speaker 3: Fill in the blank one hundred percent? And again, I think,
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Speaker 3: you know, the biggest part of this is going back
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Speaker 3: in the modern recruiting era, no team has won a
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Speaker 3: national championship by not having at least fifty percent of
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Speaker 3: their roster be four or five star recruits. Zero Now
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Speaker 3: teams have gotten to the national title, and there have
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Speaker 3: been a few of them, I mean TCU most recently
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Speaker 3: being a non bluecher ratio team, But like, I think
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Speaker 3: that's significance OC cannot be understated because this is where
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Speaker 3: the Big twelve lives. You know, the Big twelve does
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Speaker 3: not have you know, insane recruiting. Texas Tech and I
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Speaker 3: think BYU to a degree have really been on the
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Speaker 3: upswing and recruiting. But even then those are teams that
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Speaker 3: are not at the blue chip ratio. So you know,
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Speaker 3: when you look at it and you're like, well, the
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Speaker 3: season starts, and none of these Big twelve teams can
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Speaker 3: actually win a title because history suggests that you have
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Speaker 3: to be north of that fifty percent threshold. And here's
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Speaker 3: Indiana that isn't there and has basically built their entire
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Speaker 3: roster through the transfit portal. I mean, I think that
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Speaker 3: speaks volume to what the Big twelve is doing. And
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Speaker 3: then when you consider O see that, you know they're
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Speaker 3: transfer portal ranking. Indiana's last year was twenty fifth in
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Speaker 3: the nation, and in twenty twenty four they were ranked
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Speaker 3: thirtieth in the nation. It shows you even more how
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Speaker 3: improbable it's been that Indiana's been able to do this,
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Speaker 3: I mean, to build you know, a sustained winner, to
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Speaker 3: build a team now going back to back in terms
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Speaker 3: of the college football playoff for Indiana football Indiana football,
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Speaker 3: I mean, it is unbelievable. I mean, you know, when
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Speaker 3: I was in high school, my older sister went to
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Speaker 3: Indiana and I remember going to an Indiana Illinois football
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Speaker 3: game and the majority of the stadium was full of
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Speaker 3: Illinois fans for a game in Bloomington. You know Anchelon
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Speaker 3: Randall l who's now the wide receivers coach for the
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Speaker 3: Bears was the best quarterback and player that Knidiana had
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Speaker 3: ever seen, and now they're the favorites to win a
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Speaker 3: national championship. I mean, just go look at historical data
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Speaker 3: in terms of like Alabama, Georgia teams that win national championships,
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Speaker 3: Ohio State, Michigan, Like, there is a certain threshold of
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Speaker 3: teams that win national championships in college football, and Indiana
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Speaker 3: is about to break through in a way that we've
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Speaker 3: never seen before in college football.
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Speaker 1: I want the National Championship game to do the funniest
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Speaker 1: thing possible where both teams invite all of their NFL
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Speaker 1: alumni and have them walk out for the coin toss,
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Speaker 1: just like shoulder to shoulder, single file line across the field.
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Speaker 1: I want Ray Lewis and Ed Reid and Warren Sapp
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Speaker 1: and all these greats, and then like Antoine RANDALLLL and
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Speaker 1: a bunch of like eighty year old dudes to shuffle
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Speaker 1: across the field from Indiana.
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Speaker 3: And lead Corso and the famed backup quarterback for the
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Speaker 3: Cowboys that's now does the Cowboys color commentary for games, Babelfenberg.
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Speaker 3: He's a nit former Indiana quarterback, Yet that would be
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Speaker 3: a hilarious contrast. See that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Just to drive home that blue chip ratio you're talking about,
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Speaker 1: just to provide the stunning visual for everyone at home, like,
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Speaker 1: this is what Miami football has produced for the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and this is what Indiana football has produced for the NFL.
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Speaker 1: There'd be more gold jackets on the Miami side than
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Speaker 1: there are players.
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Speaker 3: Miami has one team, one team in that if you
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Speaker 3: just picked one Miami team in the nineties or early
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Speaker 3: two thousands, they would have far more gold jackets than
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Speaker 3: anything Indiana could have all time. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Crazy, Alright, Tepkins, our guests here talking all things college football.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into this transfer portal. We're almost through, right,
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Speaker 1: So in real time? What does the transfer portal look
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Speaker 1: like for coaches and players right now? A lot of
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Speaker 1: the big names made their announcement even before the transfer
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Speaker 1: portal officially opened or shortly after it did, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of them have found their new place and they've
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Speaker 1: settled down. Are we going to get major movement from
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Speaker 1: anyone else? Are coaches, you know, beating the streets and
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Speaker 1: making the furious phone calls right now? Or is the
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Speaker 1: tampering period mostly done and now well let's just figure
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Speaker 1: out what's in there and get the best we can.
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Speaker 3: You know, it feels o see like things have started
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Speaker 3: to calm down, and that, you know, if you've got
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Speaker 3: guys on your roster that you were hoping not to
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Speaker 3: lose and they have not yet entered the transfer portal,
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Speaker 3: it feels like we're in safe territory. But man, I
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Speaker 3: would say that tamper period never ends, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 3: think about this. DJ Lagway had pretty much at least
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Speaker 3: it was widely reported committed debate or only he pulled
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Speaker 3: out and now was going to do a visit to
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Speaker 3: LSU and to ole Miss. And I can't imagine that
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Speaker 3: the news that Chambliss was denied an next year of eligibility,
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Speaker 3: he had nothing to do with that. With it, especially
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Speaker 3: from a quarterback perspective, you know, you're trying to hold
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Speaker 3: off for as much leverage as you possibly can have.
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Speaker 3: I know it's been important now that Levitt is committed
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Speaker 3: to LSU, So maybe you know that that takes Lagway
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Speaker 3: off the board for LSU. We'll see and maybe he
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Speaker 3: does end up committing to Baylor. But you know, it's
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Speaker 3: important to note see that that deadline wants the transferportal
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Speaker 3: does close, is only to enter your name. Players can
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Speaker 3: still sign at any point after the fact. It's just,
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Speaker 3: you know, all these coaches are holding on for dear
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Speaker 3: life for names for their own guys to not enter
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Speaker 3: the portal. So I think that's, you know, maybe most
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Speaker 3: intriguing and most important is you'll still see guys that
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Speaker 3: are signing following the closure of that transfer portal, but
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Speaker 3: nobody can enter. And I think that's you know, at
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Speaker 3: this point, you've got to have a pretty good sense
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Speaker 3: if you're a coach and your a front office in
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Speaker 3: college football, pretty good sense of like, for the portal
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Speaker 3: opens here, the guys I'm pretty sure are gonna leave
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Speaker 3: and it shouldn't do much of a surprise. Then there's
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Speaker 3: probably a handful of guys that become surprises that maybe
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Speaker 3: you didn't have a read on whether or not they
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Speaker 3: would go. And I think what you're at right now is,
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Speaker 3: you know, you started to look at the players you
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Speaker 3: thought you were going to lose, and then all, right,
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Speaker 3: what positions now do we need to go after? Really
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Speaker 3: really hit hard. And then once you do that, I
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Speaker 3: think now it's about retaining the guys we have on
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Speaker 3: because at this point in time, I'd imagine most of
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Speaker 3: these programs know who on their roster is in the portal,
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Speaker 3: know the types of players they want to target and
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Speaker 3: position groups they want to target. And then I think
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Speaker 3: from a most important standpoint, it's now you're checking under
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Speaker 3: your guys and making sure that there's no surprises here
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Speaker 3: before the transportal window closes.
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Speaker 1: So last year, Texas Tech was like the biggest story
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Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. And it's not that they haven't
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Speaker 1: made big splashes this offseason. Soresby, I think is going
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Speaker 1: to be a nightmare for the rest of the Big
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Speaker 1: twelve to deal with in a slightly different black and
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Speaker 1: red uniform. But is Texas Tech claiming their spot again
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Speaker 1: this year for you as the transfer portal team.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it certainly felt like that in the first
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Speaker 3: twenty four to forty eight hours. I mean they you
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Speaker 3: want to talk about being prepared for the portal to open,
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Speaker 3: you know, they were ready to go and made some
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Speaker 3: pretty significant signings, not just Soresby. The biggest surprise so
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Speaker 3: far has been you know, Cam Coleman, the NFL type
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Speaker 3: wide receiver for Auburn who many thought was going to
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Speaker 3: end up at Texas Tech and now ends up at
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Speaker 3: Texas for a portally over three million dollars. And I
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Speaker 3: think what happened in that case was Texas was so
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Speaker 3: sick and tired of losing out on players at Texas
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Speaker 3: Tech that they basically made an offer that Texas Tech
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Speaker 3: was not going to be willing to match. And I
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Speaker 3: would say three million bucks for a player that is
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Speaker 3: not a quarterback, a left tackle, or a defensive end.
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Speaker 3: It's probably not the right move. But obviously Texas is
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Speaker 3: in position to where they just can't have too many
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Speaker 3: down years in a row, and they knew that this
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Speaker 3: being the last year for arch Manning, they needed to
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Speaker 3: load up on wide receivers to give him the best
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Speaker 3: opportunity to have great targets, which just sort of funny
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Speaker 3: because they clean up every year with five stars, you know,
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Speaker 3: in recruiting, so it's surprising that they had to, you know,
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Speaker 3: stoop to that level what they were once complaining about
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech doing. So it's funny Texas fans complaining about
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech doing it, and then they turn around and
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Speaker 3: do the exact same thing to Texas Tech. And then
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Speaker 3: there were Texas Tech message boards, you know, joking in
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Speaker 3: the same way that Texas fans did with Coleman, saying, oh,
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Speaker 3: I guess he doesn't want to win championships, which is
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Speaker 3: why he's going to Texas. That was probably the biggest
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Speaker 3: surprise for Meybe because everything I heard said that he
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Speaker 3: was gonna end up at Texas Tech. But again, if
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Speaker 3: you're making an offer in the worth of three million
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Speaker 3: for a wide receiver, then you know that's probably going
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Speaker 3: to do it, and that's exactly what happened with Coleman.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I think what they've done so
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Speaker 3: far on the defensive side, they knew they needed to
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Speaker 3: bring in some heavy hitters. I mean, they're going to
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Speaker 3: be losing, you know, two first round draft picks at
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Speaker 3: least in Romellow Heighten David Bailey, who's gonna be a
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Speaker 3: top five pick, and then Jacob Ardriguez. So you know,
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Speaker 3: in order to get back to where they were, they
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Speaker 3: did not just improve their offense, but they also need
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Speaker 3: to get back to where they were defensively, or at
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Speaker 3: least get in the same vicinity at where they were defensively,
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Speaker 3: which was the elite of the elite. But it's obviously
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Speaker 3: got a long way to go on the offensive side,
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Speaker 3: you know, in not even scoring. It's an Oregon defense
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Speaker 3: that gave up fifty two points to Indiana offense. I
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Speaker 3: think shows that, you know, tex Text offense was much
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Speaker 3: further off than we thought it was in the regular season.
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Speaker 1: The transfer portal rankings include a bunch of Big twelve teams.
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Speaker 1: There's there's three Big twelve teams in the top ten.
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is making a lot of noise in the
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Speaker 1: transfer portal, which is wild to consider. The Cowboys might
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Speaker 1: be coming back, Texas Tech, Arizona State, the other two
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Speaker 1: that are in the top ten conspicuously absent even when
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Speaker 1: you get down into like the fifties. Utah right now
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Speaker 1: is ranked number forty eight in the transfer portal. BYU
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Speaker 1: has just decided mostly we're just going to keep our
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Speaker 1: same roster, which I mean, it makes perfect sense. But
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Speaker 1: the ability to do that, knowing how many teams are
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Speaker 1: tampering with and calling people like bear bachmeyern On down,
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Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit scary that Kalani Satake and
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Speaker 1: those guys, they lose Jay Hill and not a ton
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Speaker 1: seems to be happening in Provo. They they built a
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Speaker 1: fence around that place apparently.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I mean, I'm I wonder how
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Speaker 3: surprised you were that guys like Glasger and some of
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Speaker 3: these players that emerged last year for that BYU defense
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Speaker 3: are not going to be joining J Hill at Michigan.
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Speaker 3: I can't imagine Hill didn't want them to join. And
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Speaker 3: you know, to your point, maybe that's where BYU spent
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Speaker 3: its money in retaining its own players as opposed to
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Speaker 3: going fishing in the transfer portal. And I'm sure it
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Speaker 3: helps too that they elevate, you know, a defensive guy
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Speaker 3: who's been around, who's been around Cay Whittingham, who's been
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Speaker 3: around J. Hill. So there's a level of familiarity there
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Speaker 3: that that probably speaks to some of these guys they
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Speaker 3: were able to retain. But I think I think you're right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, losing guys in the portal, and
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Speaker 3: we just saw one of the guys they lost, you know,
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Speaker 3: emerge in the semi finals. Killen Marion was a big
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Speaker 3: time target for Miami and it's the guy that you know,
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Speaker 3: it's like, well, two years ago he was playing at BYU,
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Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden he was like the
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Speaker 3: star for Miami in the semi final round and we'll
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Speaker 3: see what happens in national championship. And I think like
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Speaker 3: that's where I look at with BYU. Do they have
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Speaker 3: enough round Baron Bachmeyer al j At Martin is coming back,
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Speaker 3: so you know you've got the running back back, Do
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Speaker 3: you have enough offensive line with what you're gonna lose?
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Speaker 3: And then at wide receiver as well, with what you're
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Speaker 3: gonna lose. That would be, if I'm BYU, the one
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Speaker 3: area that you'd hope maybe they can, you know, make
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Speaker 3: some hay in terms of the transfitportal. But yeah, I
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Speaker 3: mean it's it really as you mentioned. I think you
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Speaker 3: said it perfectly, very conspicuously absent there from the rankings
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Speaker 3: again though, really want to point out Indiana was ranked
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Speaker 3: twenty fifth in last year's Transferportal rankings and thirtieth the
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Speaker 3: year before, so I'll obviously take those tredgings of the
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Speaker 3: great assault.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. I mean it translated very very well,
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Speaker 1: very directly, seemingly for Texas Tech this past year, right
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Speaker 1: most teams, it wasn't like that, And I actually give
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech's coaching staff a lot of credit for that.
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Speaker 1: And you and I have talked about this throughout the
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Speaker 1: course of the year because this Mercenary World, Man, we've
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of teams win big in the transfer portal.
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Speaker 1: Get this like elite player to show up, Like, I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at it, and I'm anyone who goes to LSU
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Speaker 1: right now, given what Lane Kiffin just did to his
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Speaker 1: old miss team, I'm like, what are you doing all
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Speaker 1: these players? I realize that throwing a bunch of money around.
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Speaker 1: I just have a hard time believing that all of
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Speaker 1: those guys are going to end up pulling on the
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Speaker 1: same rope the way that Texas Tech did this past season.
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Speaker 3: That's a great point because you sort of are what
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Speaker 3: your coach is and so I could see that for LSU.
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Speaker 3: And look, I mean I think, you know, you just
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Speaker 3: have to have a strategy. You know, Indiana has a
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Speaker 3: really good strategy, and that is they want older, more
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Speaker 3: experienced players. You know, the stat that everybody was talking
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Speaker 3: about last week was that Indiana the average age is
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Speaker 3: twenty three, which was just two years younger than the
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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers average age of twenty five. And I
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Speaker 3: mean a similar story I think with Texas Tech in
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Speaker 3: that they recruit guys that have played so you know,
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Speaker 3: there's a strategy of hey, let's find four and five
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Speaker 3: stars that maybe flame down to their first spot and
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Speaker 3: see if they can regain some of that magic with us.
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Speaker 3: But maguire has gone kind of the opposite direction in
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Speaker 3: terms of, no, we want guys that have played. We
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Speaker 3: want you know, we want guys that have regardless of
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Speaker 3: how they rank coming out of high school, that they
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Speaker 3: have played on the field, which says a lot, so,
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Speaker 3: you know, it just it just speaks to like, you
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Speaker 3: have to have a strategy when it comes to the portal,
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Speaker 3: and the teams that do are the ones that benefit
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Speaker 3: the most from it.
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Speaker 1: Is no news good news at this point for the
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Speaker 1: transfer portal, and specifically with somebody like Devin Dampier. We
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Speaker 1: haven't we haven't gotten anything official. Most players that are
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Speaker 1: resigning or putting out announcement that they have re signed,
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Speaker 1: which is such a strange thing to see in college football.
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Speaker 1: But if you're a hardcore Utah fan, like I know
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Speaker 1: in your heart of hearts, you are ari is no
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Speaker 1: news good news from Devon Dampier? Or is it cause
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Speaker 1: for concern?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean it's and it's kind of surprising,
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Speaker 3: isn't it. I mean, given all the turnover and change
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Speaker 3: at Utah, Yeah, it's surprising, but I would think with
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Speaker 3: all the noise around the quarterback situation. We talked about
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Speaker 3: DJ Lagway, who you know, again he had, by all
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Speaker 3: accounts and all reporting, committed to Baylor before pulling back
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Speaker 3: and suggesting that, you know, he could still be in
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Speaker 3: the open market. You know, I don't know if behind
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Speaker 3: the scenes you talk took care of Dan Pierce so
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Speaker 3: he's fine, or if you felt like, hey, I had
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Speaker 3: a really good year one, let me stick with it
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Speaker 3: and you know with a similar roster figure, what we
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Speaker 3: could do into year two. I mean, you look at
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Speaker 3: the offensive line and they're gonna lose. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: a legitimate question. So I would think at this point,
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Speaker 3: no news is good news. But it is surprising to me.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it really is. And I just wonder if
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Speaker 3: he's still kind of an underdog in the national landscape
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Speaker 3: and then he's being overlooked and maybe he wasn't as
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Speaker 3: tampered with as we expected him to be given the
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Speaker 3: output that he had this season. But it's surprised because again,
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Speaker 3: these quarterbacks, a lot of them just hit the portal
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Speaker 3: in order to raise the leverage that they have and
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Speaker 3: you know, to see Dan Pierre just kind of go
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Speaker 3: ho home and not really do anything, and I think
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Speaker 3: that's huge. And you know, again, I think Utah with
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Speaker 3: Dad Pierre, even with all the losses they had and
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Speaker 3: will have both you know, from a coaching staff and
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Speaker 3: from a you know, offensive wide personnel standpoint, will be
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Speaker 3: one of the favorites of the Big twelve again next year.
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, we end the year in the
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Speaker 3: same way that I think Tech, BYU and Utah are
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Speaker 3: still gonna be the three favorite setting in the next season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the case. We'll see how it
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Speaker 1: all plays out these next four days or so, and
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Speaker 1: then we'll talk with you about it next week. Ari,
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Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time.
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Speaker 3: You're the best us see take care brother, you well.
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