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Rich Good morning. How are you, ma'am? Good morning? How was
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your Christmas? It was good? It was good. How about you?
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Really good? Yeah, real good. Lots of family around, lots of
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food right up your alley except for those goods that did you have to go
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there? Sorry, buddy, Yes, the Coop's saying to me, but
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he said he knows you well. Yeah I do. Yeah, Rich and
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I used to be really good friends too, up until the day about ten
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seconds ago. Yeah, I want to say this. You know, I
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kind of subbed on the Axe acts on the Ask the Experts program for Coop
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with the folks at at Foster Construction. You were listening to the show coming
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in this morning, and you were talking about how I guess in your world
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of real estate that your paths kind of cross, not specifically with that company,
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but we we even talked about home inspections and things like that. Something
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trade up your ally, Richard, it is Yeah, I said, uh,
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you know, we we really ought to just kind of remind everybody that
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you know, we live in West Virginia, so his his services are needed
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here. And I had a structural engineer tell me one time that there are
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really only two kinds of houses here in West Virginia, those those that have
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had structural issues and those that will and uh so, very pessimistic thing,
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but it kind I mean, it's the Mountain States, so and and he's
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right about the expanding soil. I just kind of heard that from other engineers
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as well. But you know, from a real from a realtor's perspective,
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if a home has been it's had structural repairs done, and then you have
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another engineer, independent engineer go and say yes, I've inspected and I'm comfortable
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with it, then I'm comfortable selling the house. And you know buyers out
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there always shy away from them, and that there are ways to get around
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them. Obviously, if there's you know, he huge crackings and sellers are
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selling the house as is and going to put the you know, put the
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bill right on the in the buyer's lap, then those are different stories.
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But again, if it's been repaired and then it's been reinspected by a structural
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engineer that says that he's deeming the house to be safe as it is on
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that day, I'm fine selling that house. I'm going to show my ignorance
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here as I do on a regular basis on this show. And it has
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to do with you mentioned the term as is. Now, I know any
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automotive industry, which is something I'm a lot more familiar with. I know
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that West Virginia is not an as is state. I can sell you a
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car myself to Rich between a transaction Bete, Dave and Rich, but if
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you go to at automobile dealership, it's not an as is state. Now,
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other states around US, I think Kentucky's and as a state where you
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can pretty much say, hey, you're you're paying five thousand dollars for this
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car, take it, go with it, good luck. How does that
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work with real estate properties as far as the term as is go. So
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it's just about disclosures in that the case, so that the sellers are just
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going to say, listen, it is as is. Sometimes that we see
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that a lot from the state sales and the people have never owned the pro
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lived in the property, so they can't really tell you about you know,
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what works, what does grandma lived there? And then they lived out and
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still lived there when they were a kid or something, but it's been forty
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years or something, so they'll sell that as is where is meaning that there
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have no They can't really disclose anything to you about the house that you really
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need to do your due diligence. Hire a good home inspector, Hire a
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structural engineer, hire any of those contractors you like. You have that in
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your in the verbiage in the contract to be able to do that, and
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you have to be satisfied with those inspections. But those inspections are on you.
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The seller can't help you with that. Talk about the year Rich that
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was real estate here in the Valley in twenty twenty three. We'll do well
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the preview coming up. I want to just do year in review, go
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back into the way back machine here. How was the year that in twenty
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twenty three here in the valley? Well, it was. It was a
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banging year for Rich the realtor for most of it was. I'm very blessed
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and happy. You've had a good year, better year, But you've had
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a better year than the Steelers have. Is that what you're saying, I
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definitely have had Well, that's not saying much though, so Rich and I
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go back and forth on sports teams all the time, but go ahead,
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but yeah, so it really slowed the rate the rate increases, really slowed
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down and really caught up to me personally. And I think a lot I
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speak for a lot of people too, because I just obviously lots of my
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colleagues are having the same issues. And in the fourth quarter of the year
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things were much slower. But so, you know, but it's looking better
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in terms of what that looks like going forward. Rates are starting to creep
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down. They're back under seven percent in a lot of cases, and you
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know, I would just encourage people to not be discouraged about the future.
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Twenty twenty three is what it is. The inventory is going to remain about
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the same. It looks like the you know, the amount of houses that
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are available to sell really haven't changed much. The fluctuate ten or fifteen one
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way or the other throughout the you know, the month. But unless the
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builders, you know, get out there and put a bunch of houses up
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or whatever that is, and there is a little construction going, but I
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don't, I don't over the next couple of years, for see, the
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inventory changing much. Primarily, this is just kind of getting into the twenty
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twenty four I feel like the when the rates come down, there's still a
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lot of buyers out there kind of on the on the outskirts, watching and
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trying to keep waiting for the right time, which, by the way,
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the right time to buy is when you need to buy, Just buy and
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then figure out the rate you can refinance all that stuff. But there are
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lots of people out there still looking for those homes. When the rates do
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continue to come down, it looks like they will. They're going to get
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into the market. They're going to buy those houses and there'll be some listed
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and they'll be buying. I think that'll happen for a couple of years.
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That's my that's my opinion. But you know, it looks good in terms
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of the rates, and you know, lenders will be happy because they'll start
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doing some refinancing and all that's good for us. And I think sometimes and
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I'm going to ask I'm not going to ask you to get into politics.
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We'll do that in the next segments of the show. But it twenty twenty
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four being an election year, you know, again, not taking sides either
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way, I'm just saying when it's a presidential election year, that sort of
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thing matters, and sometimes it's not about necessarily at this time of year,
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obviously people don't know who's going to win, but they're looking ahead and it's
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kind of speculative. Yeah, I think it's about consumer confidence. Yes,
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in my opinion. Now that's true of any market, you know, not
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just real estate. Same thing for real estate. And I won't comment on
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politics right except for to say, go vote, ps go vote, and
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you said, and you've done several the segments with us now Rich and others
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have said that there simply aren't enough homes to go around for everyone that wants
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a home. There's simply not enough. Is there anything that we can do
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it? I'm not big necessarily on government getting involved in things unless we absolutely
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positively have to. But is there anything that can be done to try to
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disperse some people, to say, hey, go build some houses. We
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need houses. I think it's just about the continuation of the cost to come
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back down so that they were building it cost it two hundred dollars a square
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foot for a long time, and obviously contra large contractors are getting better race
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than that. But you know, if they can get those back down,
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most homes, well, I just take in terms of the selling. It
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used to be prior to COVID that if the house was more than one hundred
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dollars a square foot, we really needed to justify that through upgrades and features
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in the house. You know, I would tell my buyers like, look,
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this is one hundred and eight dollars a square foot. Let's look and
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see what they have in there. But now it's not uncommon for those houses
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to be selling. The same house is selling for one hundred and thirty dollars
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a square foot, you know. So as the cost of materials come down
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and people can do some of those updates in their homes and not go crazy
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with price, and then the same thing for contractors buying to build, I
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mean, they they've got it. It's got to they have to make money.
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Those those builders an't going to build those houses for no money. Sure,
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yeah, you can't respect them to do that. Right. So when
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those costs continue to come down, certainly West Virginia has the land to build,
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but they have to have those reasonable cost And we've got people that are
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coming here. And you spoke to this about on your last you know on
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your ask the expert too. It's a staff in shortage too. Some builders
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are ready and they can do it, and they can't find people to show
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up, which is a problematic for them. It's problematic for every aspect of
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the workforce that people just simply rich do not want to work. And that's
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just the way it is. And if you don't believe me, go out
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and again, I hear this, and I'm not going to get political.
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I promised you, but I hear this all the time. People will text
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the show and they'll say, well, if they paid living wages, people
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dot EEDU slash Apprenticeship Today Rich the realtor for Meeks Realty is whether it's
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I've heard this term used a lot around the real estate business over the years,
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and it is preferred referrals as it pertains to realtors. Now some will
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use the term preferred referrals as it comes to lenders or the services you know,
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like electricians, plumbers, whatnot. How do realtors go about choosing who
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are the uh preferred referrals? And if I'm a contractor or something, how
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do I get to be preferred? Well, that's a good question, and
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mostly from us, it's about experience. We've worked with some of those guys.
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But you know, the way I did it when I first started is
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just really asking other realtors who've been in the market for a long time.
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I did a lot of research on some people, particularly ones that we use
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all the time. So you're going to do it, You're going to need
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a title attorney, You're going to need a lender, You're going to need
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a home inspector. And I personally dug into some Google reviews and was really
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trying to make sure that I was if I'm going to refer on it,
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we have to refer typically, we want to refer in groups of three.
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Buyers can use or sellers, depending on what you're what side you're on,
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they can use whoever they like, as long as they're licensed and all that
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kind of stuff, and we'll tell them that you can give them. You
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know, home inspectors have their own website for the whole state of West Virginia,
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so to speak. But I dug into that quite a bit just to
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make sure that if I'm going to send them out and say, hey,
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here's three of my preferred home inspectors. Now, I mean, that's how
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I got started with it. And then over you know, the years I
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started, you know, obviously liking some of those home inspectors going to learn
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to communicators, and they were they were they were quick to get their their
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questions answered. They did really well with the buyers. And then for my
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past clients, I'm getting their recommendations, and really I got those referrals from
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my buyers who use those people, so that way I know, hey,
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I'm referring to somebody that is going to take care of future clients, so
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do good work. Basically, if you if you're a contractor or home inspector,
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do good work and you'll be you'll be preferred. You'll be a pro
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I would say, do good work. And then also be a good communicator,
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you know, and if you're keeping us posted to where you are,
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when you'll be there, what the price looks like, all that kind of
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stuff, you're gonna line. You're going to wind up on a bunch of
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realtors, referral networks. Any certain properties now rich that that you have that
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you're really excited about, Well not, Uh, I've got one coming in
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Winfield soon. It's on Main Street. So I'm excited about that one.
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I think that'll go within a couple of days. It's just a perfect location.
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You know, we're still looking to have a good buyer. It's residential.
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We'll still look for the right buyer for our Woodville h Woodville Circle or
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Heights location. Has showed that a couple of times yesterday, so that's that's
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hopeful. And but yeah, we're we're just excited about getting through the holiday.
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I you know, I have a couple of personal clothings myself this week
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related to my you know, my personal life with my my new wife to
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be soon we're selling my house on Friday and buying the house from her dad,
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which is he's been so good to us and we're excited about that.
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Do you have a good realtor? You know, I'm trying to do it
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by on Earth. I don't think pay him. I get it. I
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get it. Uh. And I will say this, if you're looking to
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sell your home, if you're looking to purchase, contact this gal here because
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a rich U is it fantastic and he's he's good with people and kind of
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dumb animals and that sort of thing. So I'm sure he'll do he'll do
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a great job for you. Where can people learn more about your services you're
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listing so on and so forth. Yep, So you can call me directly,
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call her text anytime. That's the best way to get me at three
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oh four nine three two seven four eight eight, and you can get me
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a Rich client sixty six at gmail. Best way to get the website is
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just to go to Meeks www dot Meeks dot us. All right, link
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right to us Rich the realtor. I appreciate you being here, and again
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it's a Meeks realty. Just contact Rich if you if you have questions,
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if you're looking at particular listings, residential or professional, or if you want
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him to sell because Rich would like to buy your home, or he'd like
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to arrange for somebody to buy your home. We' put it that way.
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Let's be clear. Yes, Rich is trying to sell a home right now,
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Rich the realtor. I appreciate it. Man, have a great,
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great new year. We'll talk again a new year man. Thanks to thanks
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Sender financed chair, Eric Tar Good morning, sir, have you new year?
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Good morning, Dave, have you new Year. I've got a great
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Christmas. I had a wonderful Christmas. How about you and the family?
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That was incredible. You know, is everything Christmas should be for our family
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this year? That's good. Anything in particular, any any any good gifts
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you want to talk about. I get all kinds of good gifts. I
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stuff my garage, my truck, my guns. You know, you say
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when you're a guy, that's and you're an adult guy, that's the kind
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of I got this from my garage, or I got this from my car,
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my truck, or I got this. You know, it's you just
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but that's what makes us happen. We're just big kids, you know,
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just to help us with our toys, and we're happy. I got a
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lot of stuff, as I always do, with stars on it for the
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cowboys with I got some red stuff that Coop's going to absolutely love. So
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so yeah, that's kind of what was kind of my Christmas before the long
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before long the session is going to be here. I know you just wrapped
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up interims a couple of weeks ago here in Charleston, and I know Eric
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that the agendas are being worked on. Is there anything on their right horizons
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specifically that you're looking at when the session starts. I mean, we have
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d HHR, We've got our correction system, which we have made a lot
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of gains in the correction system problems, but still not where we should be
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yet. I think you would agree with that. Foster care any anything in
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particular that we're looking at for the new session. You know it's it's gonna
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be a big agenda, I believe. So as we get together with a
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caucus, we bring in all of our members, bring in their ideas and
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things they want to work on. We have those discussed within the caucus,
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and then we go through and see what kind of support each kind of concept
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might have and where our priorities will go. And the stronger the support for
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those priorities, the more it becomes a leadership item. And so I think
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that a lot of things you listed are of course all those that are front
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of attention for us. Those things you're talking about are really things that have
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been chronic problems, I would say within the state. When you're talking about
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the issue that we've had with corrections and the issue that we've had with DHR
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because of that split and CPS and the things that go along with that.
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So yeah, will have still have things around those type of topics. But
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I think that one of the things that this legislature is at least the Senate
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for sure, and there's been a lot of communication with the House too,
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is which really try to take a long term look at things, because those
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problems have been there for decades really when it comes down to it, and
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one of the reasons those problems persist is because we've not taken a long term
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plan for things that have both with the way you regulate them and the way
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you find that you fund them. And so we've been doing a lot with
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the Economic Development State that creates the funding models that come down through that actually
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be that you're able to provide the services of government at the level we should
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be providing it. And we're getting there, you know, it's just it's
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a path to get there, it's not it's not necessarily just opening a door
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and you're there. And the reason way I say that is that when in
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order to fund like DHHR, you're talking about a billion dollar part of our
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budget. When you talk about that, well, in order to go in
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provide all the level of services you need. It takes the ability to fund
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it year after year after year after year. So you have to have the
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economic development there to be able to produce the tax base that comes back to
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do the to fund the services of government. And what's happened in my perspective,
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what's happened for decades prior to our leadership, is that they were always
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putting out the fires and never looking at the long term. And so we'red
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aids, band aid solutions, band aid solutions, so all those things that
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are really hot topics that are right in front of us, really they're they're
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year after year problems that require very long term solutions. And so those are
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the kind of that's the concept that we're looking at it. So I would
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say on the governance side of things, that's that's how we're looking a right
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now. There's also I think I think social issues are probably big this year.
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You know as well. It's because you know, there's a lot of
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large part of our body that thinks that West Virginia should be a conservative sanctuary
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state. You know, as things have been going across the country, it's
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kind of scary seeing what comes out of DC and what's coming out of some
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of our major cities. And I think people need a place to go,
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and we want those families here in West Virginia that want that conservative place to
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go, where they can come here and they can live and work and raise
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a family. Let's talk about the year that was twenty twenty three. This
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is the type of time of year and I did this with Rich earlier.
21:26
This is the time of the year when people kind of look back and you
21:30
go back in the way back machine, you look at January, February,
21:32
so on and so forth. So how was the year overall in West Virginia.
21:36
I mean a lot of big economic announcements we know of, you know
21:40
from New Core, which actually happened a little bit before that, but from
21:44
the bus facility in South Charleston, so many other It seems like almost daily
21:48
or almost weekly, there's another economic announcement. But talk about the year that
21:52
was twenty twenty three in West Virginia. Centator. You know, to me,
21:55
the way that I remember is there it's a year where they're palpable hope
22:00
on the streets in West Virginia. If you're out talking to West Virginians they're
22:03
very positive on the outlook and buy and large and sayings. And that's that's
22:07
new for West Virginia. You know, we've had for years and years and
22:10
years, we've had a you know, Western has had a chip on our
22:11
shoulder, and you're just looking what where's the next punch coming from. That's
22:14
what you're always looking for. And that's not the perspective that I perceive when
22:18
I'm out talking to public. It's it's that there's hope, that they're excited,
22:22
they're grateful for the blessings that Western has been receiving, and we've been
22:26
receiving those, you know, by the truckloads here in the over twenty twenty
22:29
three. And the future is bright. You know, we said all long
22:33
coming in, we're going to create jobs, create jobs, create jobs.
22:34
With the jobs are here now, we've got to figure out how to supply
22:37
labor to the jobs, labor jobs, which is a great problem to have.
22:41
And so I think the future is bright. You see population growth coming
22:44
to West Virginia. You know, we we had better numbers for how many
22:48
people migrated in this year than migrated in last year, and last year was
22:52
positive migration. So you're going to start seeing as we get that younger migration
22:56
coming into West Virginia, you're gonna start seeing a birth rate come up.
23:00
Think the things that we've been really working on for a long time to say
23:02
we need to grow the population here in West Virginia is happening, and it's
23:06
happening in a very positive manner because of all that job creation coming here,
23:10
and it's uh and we get national attention for West Virgia's beauty. Are people,
23:12
I mean, you can't find, forliar people that here in West Virginia.
23:15
And when we get all that travel coming here from across the country,
23:19
it's recognized. And I think with us living here, we don't really appreciate
23:22
that so well. Now we're used to looking out our back door and seeing
23:26
a mountain or seeing the stream or whatever. And yeah, I mean I
23:30
saw this firsthand about twenty years ago, being from southern West Virginia, Eric
23:33
when the half of McCoy trail system came in, and I was amazed.
23:37
I sat on an economic development group in the mid to late nineteen nineties in
23:42
Logan County and I thought, people are going to come here to ride these
23:47
trails. We've been running these mountains, our whole lives. I mean,
23:49
why is it? Guess I was wrong because I certainly I certainly underestimate.
23:55
It's kind of like I guess maybe people that live at the beach just think,
23:56
eh, it's just water, just saying, you know, we don't
24:00
think about it sometimes. Yeah, you know, it's such a We talk
24:03
about our resources in terms of coal and gas and timber and those type things.
24:07
I don't think that people realize what we really have right in front of
24:11
our face and have had for you know, hundreds of years sitting here,
24:15
that the West Virginia's beauty is incredible. And so when you have people now
24:18
that can live really anywhere they want work, that beauty attracts them. So,
24:22
you know, for me, it's just been it's been eye opening year
24:26
for West Virginia to be able to see West Virginia through other people's eyes and
24:30
just at the beauty side of it, and then also to know what they're
24:33
looking for. We have it here. We have that family type of social
24:38
attitude I guess here in West Virginia is that you take care of your neighbor,
24:41
you take care of your brother and you, and families are close and
24:45
tight and the country needs that right now, and so you know, West
24:48
Virginia has that in addition to being so close to you know, half the
24:51
country's population. Yeah, I mean, proximity is a big thing here and
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that's something that people are looking for. We're talking to Centevened's chair, Eric
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com. Senator I heard the governor during his briefing last week talking about the
25:21
high school high school transfer rule. Of course, being a high school basketball
25:25
coach is that's something that's going to be on his mind heavily. I've had
25:29
Senators Amy Grady and Ryan Weld on the show in the past, and the
25:33
Weld, of course, was one of the ones who really lobbied, you
25:34
know, for what we have now. Maybe I'm reading the room wrong.
25:40
Eric but it doesn't seem to me like there's a lot of interest on the
25:45
Senate side with with addressing this in the upcoming session, because a lot of
25:48
people have called for hey, including the governor, saying we've got to do
25:52
something about this. What's your take on that? And my take is is
25:55
that it falls righting with education when you're looking at the transfer rule, at
25:59
least from my perspective, and I think from a lot of sentence perspective,
26:02
is that we look at it as a piece of education as a whole.
26:04
And what we've been trying to do with education as much as possible is give
26:07
the parents the choice for what they want that educational experience to be for their
26:11
child, where they want it, and how they want it, and in
26:15
doing so, you get a tailor made education to that kid. For athletes
26:19
that are in situations where athletics really matter, it's a matter of getting eyes
26:25
on you, whether from Scouts or what college you may play if you're going
26:27
to play past high school, those things really matter to those kids. And
26:32
so for me, it's a matter of choice. It's where do I want
26:36
to live and where do I want my kids to go to school? And
26:38
I think the parents should be able to make that decision. So I have
26:41
absolutely no regret whatsoever in this transfer role, and I think most of the
26:44
Senate feels that way as well. Do you think it will be brought up?
26:47
Do we have enough support for it? It may if it's brought up.
26:51
I don't think it's been brought up in Senate. I've not hurt anybody
26:55
any kind of strong interest at all and into changing what we've done. I'm
26:57
going to get kind of deep here for a moment to Senator Tara. There
27:00
were some criticisms leveled at the Republican Caucus by not only the Democrats you expect
27:07
that, but by a few other Republicans about a recent fundraiser, a pretty
27:11
expensive one at that held up at Edgewood. Some eric again on both sides
27:18
of the isle, has said it was basically just a fundraiser where their words,
27:22
by the way, where people could pay lots of money to have issues
27:25
addressed during the session. You're taken that, Yeah, I want to think,
27:29
Yeah, we had a fundraiser, and I want to thank everybody that
27:30
came out to help support dur Senate Caucus. You know that we come through
27:34
with Republicans and we are funded against by personal injury lawyers and labor unions.
27:41
That's where the money comes in. The out spend us five to one.
27:45
So it is a fight when it comes to elections to get our message out
27:48
and to get our candidates out there, recognizing that takes a lot of dollars
27:52
to do that. And so the people that came out come out for fundraisers,
27:55
and that fundraiser as well, are the people that are in that are
27:59
employees in the state, They are people who have nonprofits in the state.
28:03
They are people and then even individuals that have personal interest in the politics of
28:06
the Republican Party that come out to help fund these racists. So, first
28:10
of all, if you're listening, thank you, thank you, thank you,
28:12
thank you for coming out and helping these candidates get their message out across
28:17
the state when it's coming time for elections, because as you know, they
28:18
are elections in the primary. Now, there's there's not going to be many
28:22
generals that are going to matter in this in this state when it comes to
28:25
it this year, if any, and so the races are in the primary,
28:27
so you have to get out there early and get those those dollars raised.
28:30
So, first of all that's I want to say thank you to them.
28:33
Second is that, yeah, it takes money to go ahead and do
28:37
this, and so fundraising is a thing any more than I Actually I'm one
28:42
of the guys who's really proponents of having these fundraisers as powerful as we can
28:47
make them in order to be able to get the money up. Because we
28:51
are out spent five to one. We can't go in and force an individual
28:55
to donate to a political cause by reaching into their paycheck. You know that's
28:59
Republicans don't do that, and labor unions do that with personal injury lawyers.
29:03
We don't go in and sue the heck out of businesses and then turn around
29:07
take the money from suing those businesses and then fund our candidates to go in
29:11
to fight Republican causes. That's not how we do it. People have to
29:15
voluntarily bring their money to fund campaign races, and it takes fundraisers. And
29:18
so we have fundraisers that much like Trump would have a dinner plate fundraiser.
29:22
You know, I've known when they do presidential elections, you might pay twenty
29:26
five thousand dollars to go get a dinner plate to sit down. And these
29:29
are all people who are very involved in politics to help fund those presidential races.
29:33
And that's because it just takes that level of money to get a nationwide
29:37
message out, and so we do that with our fundraisers as well. So
29:40
we have a couple of dinner plate fundraisers across the state and we do that
29:41
and we've been getting better and better at that fundraising. But I think it's
29:45
because that we the policy that we're passing is more and more appreciated. Were
29:51
you surprise, Senator that there were some criticisms about this event and events like
29:56
that that we're being leveled at leadership buy members of the Republican Party. No,
30:02
and by the way, it was a very very small Yeah, part
30:06
of the When you say members, it doesn't take too many to be good
30:07
plural member. Okay, member, there you go. That's that's more accurate.
30:12
Yeah. What happened within that is that there was pictures taken in side
30:18
of that, inside of that caucus and then sent out to media, and
30:22
then media misconstrued it to be something that it wasn't, because it was it
30:26
was making like you were selling influence and that's not that's not what fundraisers are
30:30
fundraisers are out there to where you can go in and raise money to get
30:33
campaign messaging out or policy messaging out, as the case may be. With
30:37
this. Uh so, like if we're going to be running policy that has
30:41
to do with foster care, we're going to have policy it has to do
30:45
with economic development, and we need a state to realize what we're doing and
30:48
be supportive of that to call their legislators. That messaging comes out through these
30:51
funds, just like it does for with campaign funds. And so, what
30:53
happened within this caucus that was unique and kind of created all the kind of
30:56
the stir that came out there is that there was a member in there that
31:02
who's not happy with the caucus as a whole, and then frankly caucus and
31:07
happy with him either. So who snapped, we believe, snapped a picture
31:12
and then sent that straight out to media and then disappeared from caucus. So
31:18
and then within minutes that was out and it was misconstrued as selling influence,
31:22
which is not what that's about at all. Do we discuss policy absolutely,
31:25
every one of these people that are out there that come these fundraisers, they
31:26
tend to be in our offices when they come through the Capital Drink session as
31:30
well, the people come in meet with legislators try to advocate for whatever position
31:33
that they have. What happens when we have some of these fundraisers is that
31:37
especially if it's a caucus committee fundraiser, which you know, there's a caucus
31:41
committee for the Republicans in the Senate. There's a believe a caucus committee for
31:45
the Democrats as well, and the same thing in the House for those two
31:48
things. Because we have those type committees that you fund. So when we
31:52
have them all together and then you're having fundraisers, that is an opportunity with
31:56
you're ill talk to everybody about there at one time. It's like a networking
32:00
event like you go to almost like a chamber event. Give us a little
32:05
inside baseball before we close, a senator about what is going on now the
32:08
week's leading up to the session. For those that are in leadership roles such
32:13
as as yourself or or judiciary chairs or Senate presidence, what's actually going on
32:20
right now on once we get through the New Year's holiday. It's very operational,
32:23
you know, so that one of the things that happens at the leadership
32:27
levels, you have a team around you that helps prepare to make things look
32:30
like they go smooth. Mm hmm. And what I mean by I look
32:32
like they go smooth is that you have in order to get legislation passed and
32:37
before the call becuse, you have to have education that happens step by step
32:39
by step by step, and that takes a lot of people to make that
32:42
towards organized. We have in the Senate, we have books that have the
32:46
policy agenda for our members to be able to go look at and then write
32:51
down notes to go back and say, Okay, yeah, this is something
32:52
that I would support, and this is it might need these changes for me
32:55
to support. It takes that kind of effort across both set up up the
33:00
committees. It takes that for setting up policy. It takes it for getting
33:02
schedules around the events that happened around the legislative session, whether it has to
33:07
do with state of state address and what we do before and after that listening.
33:10
So it's very operational. It's mechanical right now because we've prepared for it
33:15
all year long. As soon as we've start finished last session, we started
33:17
working toward this session. So you know, the big stuff we've taken care
33:22
of Now, it's just what's the mechanics of getting that stuff all done so
33:25
it's operational. We would be remiss, Senator if we didn't mention the passing
33:30
of Maryland Parsons, who was a behind the scenes person involved in the Senate
33:35
for some time. Again, not one of the names that you see out
33:38
there, but those of us that have been around the Capitol certainly knew.
33:42
I did not know her well, but certainly knew of her and she just
33:45
passed, and so condolences to her and her family. Absolutely. It's one
33:50
of the large blessings of my life was to get to know Maryland Parsons.
33:53
She is an incredible person. There was an incredible person here in West Virginia.
33:57
She's been here for several decades working through legislature, and she's one of
34:01
those people in the legislature that everybody can trust. She had just a wisdom
34:07
about her of the process, and it was just a genuinely good hearted person.
34:14
It's so sad for her family, but I tell you what, I
34:16
count myself and imagine her family as the same way, account themselves blessed to
34:22
have got to be a friends and family with Marilyn Parsons here in West Virginia.
34:24
She's terribly missed. Yeah, and we'll be missed going forward in that
34:30
sessions. From here on out seat of anat cherry tar. It's always a
34:34
pleasure to have you on the show. Have a very very happy new year.
34:36
No, you too, you too, and everybody out there it's listening,
34:37
have a great, happy new Year. And then we look forward to
34:40
getting things started here the session. We're eager to get rolling. Well,
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five adwcchs. That is Bowl Day for the Mountaineers. WU gets said to
38:15
take a North Carolina in the Duke's Mayo Bowl, and Charlotte Jeff Jenkins WVU
38:20
fanatic and Duke's Mayo fan joins us. Now WVU fanatic fanatic? Are you
38:25
a Duke's Mayo fanatic? No, I'm not a Mayo guy, by the
38:30
way, man, you think and you think you know a guy. Sorry,
38:31
I'm sorry. There is there is no Mayo other than Duke's in my
38:36
opinion. So you just take my take my word for it. Just talk
38:37
about the game, Jeff talking about this My first time they played sin so
38:42
eight, is that right? You know? I was at the I was
38:45
at two you know, working at two West Virginia North Carolina bowl games.
38:51
One was the Gator Bowl from when was that nineteen ninety six? I think
38:57
nineteen ninety six in Jacksonville, And like they do today, their their quarterback
39:04
was out. Now their quarterback this year, he's he's going to be high
39:07
in the drafty and so he opted out. But then they had an injured
39:12
quarterback and a guy named Oscar Davenport came in. Mountaineer fans will may may
39:15
remember that name because he had not played Hardley at all, and he has
39:21
this huge game against the Mountaineers and they went and then the last time they
39:25
played was in Charlotte, the Minukee car Care Bowl, so the bowl under
39:30
a previous name, uh, And it was Pat White's fourth bowl and he
39:35
was undefeated in bowls and he basically took the team on his shoulders in Western
39:37
Gina won by one by one point. Yeah, it was a great game.
39:43
So yeah, that's the last time they played, and you know they
39:46
they will play today. It's an interesting matchup because North Carolinas up a lot
39:52
of yards running the football. West Virginia has run the football very well this
39:54
year. Zach Frazier is out, so I think that's interesting. Now Brandon
39:59
Yates will play so and he's played a lot of football guard this year and
40:02
has played some center. But you know, Zach Fraser plays such a large
40:07
role and not only he's very good, but he makes all the calls on
40:08
the offensive line. So it's kind of see how that goes. I mean,
40:12
will Western be able to run the ball against North Carolina? Other teams
40:15
have and Orkani is a really good back and I heard a stat on their
40:19
running back, Dave Is that he has gained over a thousand yards after an
40:23
initial hit. Okay, so he runs well after an attempted tie. So
40:30
in the passing game, they called it yards after catcher. Gag. Now
40:31
it's yard after hit. Yeah, yard after hit. So he's gained more
40:35
than a thousand yards, leads the country in gaining yards after an attempt to
40:39
tackle. Okay, so he runs hard. So Western is gonna have to
40:44
really play well defensively. I think it's a really good game and it's a
40:47
good matchup. It is, and fans love this. Fans their fans love
40:52
to drive to Charlotte. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know, it's
40:53
just like okay, once they finally got there yesterday, there was a lot
40:57
of hiccups getting well, what that was yesterday, I think is Maunder fans
41:00
going down. Plus when Christmas falls on a Monday, right, you get
41:04
a lot of travel south on the following day. And that's exactly what happened.
41:07
Summersville was jammed up, the turnpike was jammed up. It didn't get
41:10
into relief really until you got to the North Carolina line. That's what I
41:15
was told. So and it is amazing to me, they say, because
41:19
you know it's it's North Carolina, But you know, West Virginia University.
41:22
I'm a Marshall guy, you know that. But West Virginia University is about
41:24
the closest thing that we have to a pro team, you know, here
41:28
in the state. But west. You know, in North Carolina, they
41:30
have North Carolina, they have Duke, they have UNC Charlotte, they have
41:34
North Carolina State, they have Wake Forest, they have all these different universities.
41:37
So it's kind of divided. They're saying there's going to be two to
41:38
one West Virginia fans. Yes, I heard Tony said, Tony Creedy said
41:43
he's talked to Bullfish. Was they say seventy five to twenty five? Oh
41:46
really wow? Yeah, seventy five to twenty five percent. And people I
41:51
remember going driving Dave one time to Gator Bull on I don't know if Christmas
41:55
was on a Sunday, and we went the day after you were gone down
42:00
to cover it and we drove and we couldn't get on I ninety five.
42:04
There was so much traffic. I mean, this is not all way,
42:06
this is not West. Some of these may be in West Virginia, but
42:07
but it was mostly just holiday travel and so the inner what's the interstate that
42:12
hooks after Columbus Columbia, South Carolina at seventy seven over to ninety five is
42:16
a twenty six maybe something like that, good with numbers. So it was
42:21
backed up like twelve miles just to get on I ninety five. And I
42:25
remember pulling in. I've told this story before. I don't know on the
42:28
air, but I pulled in a lot of people getting off at the last
42:30
exit, and they were pulling in. There was this guy at a convenience
42:32
store and he had a map up. This is before the days of your
42:36
GPSGBS here and he's got a map up saying if you take this route,
42:39
you can get back on ninety five down here. And so that's everybody was
42:42
going and you were able to get on ninety five. So but anyway,
42:45
Mountain, their fans are there, and it looks like the weather's going to
42:47
be good. That's good, dry sixty five maybe around this afternoon by the
42:52
kickoff in the round sixty. Yeah, that's good. And of course we're
42:55
going to have complete coverage of the game. Big shout out to the folks
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the game possible, We're going to have complete game coverage with a normal cast
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of experts I think yourself included. Talk about that. Okay, So we
43:09
get started at noon today, so it's going to be basically a five hour
43:13
pregame show. So there's a two hour show with some features in different things,
43:16
and then we do the sports Brunch, which is from three to five,
43:22
which is a lot of fun, and then at five we actually have
43:25
play by play coverage from ESPN. So this is an ESPN Bowl game.
43:30
So at five they'll do a pregame show for a half hour, kick it
43:32
off at five thirty, and then we'll come back after the game for the
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point after we invite people's calls or text comments, and so what we'll do
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whatever time the game ends, will go to the nearest half hour and then
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another hour, so you could be as much as an hour and a half
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or as little as little over an hour, but we'll talk about it after
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the game. Nothing like a mountain near Bowl game here in West Virginia.
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Before I'll let you go switching gears completely to a news story, we'll close
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it out with this. We had a shooting last night on the West Side
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of Charleston. There are some new details about it that we've actually had some
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violence here in the city during the last less than twelve hours ago. So
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there was a shooting over at Lippert Lippert Street, there's an apartment complex over
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there off the west side off of not far from West Washington Street, and
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a woman was shot and killed there. They've made an arrest now, so
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we've got our story updated at WC. It is just network dot Com.
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A man from Columbus, Ohio, thirty eight years old. It's charged with
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the woman's murder. And then there was a nine month old child also in
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the apartment that suffered some wounds, grazing wounds. So it sounds like I
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mean, we haven't gotten a medical report or anything, but it sounds like
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it was grazing wounds. But that's traumatic for anybody, especially a nine month
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old child, you know. So that child's being treated in the hospital.
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And then city police are also investigating a series of stabbings. So there are
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three stabbings right right around seven thirty seven forty five this morning near the McDonald's
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across from CMC Memorial. Three people have been injured. We're trying to sort
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out the details of that. We hope to get more on that from city
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police and we will. They'll release more information, I would think over the
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next couple of hours, so we'll update those stories. All right, Jeff,
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I appreciate it. Mountaineer game day again. Our coverg starts at noon.
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to get to, particularly about the Eric Tar interview. But going back yesterday,
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Tech said, dang, Dave, you missed an opportunity to play some
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John Schneider for the bumper at least from Whalen that was on yesterday's show.
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I'm trying to go through, okay. Tex says Senator Tar is a right
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to life fraud. He doesn't want to preserve life at all costs. Have
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him explain why he doesn't support mandatory blood donation or organ donations at death,
48:22
which could save many lies. Have him explained the principle to bodily autonomy that
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applies to deceased, which now does not apply to a living woman. Tex
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says the Republican legislature didn't create a single job in West Virginia, and Tar
48:34
knows this. Every economic development announcement and the new business. He wants to
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take credit for us back by federal money. Name names, says a text
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tell us about your out of state delite financiers who buy your right. Yeah,
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because that's exclusive to the Republican Party. Okay, not reading that.
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Tex says Republicans and Senator tar have been in power for the past ten years
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and we still don't have a plan to fix our foster care system. The
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house is still on fire, and he's not helping any of our sixty two
49:02
hundred kids in the foster care systems Sex says, don't need any more money
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talk about foster care, just need to take action. Centertuitar's talkie does nothing
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to fix the foster care system. Texas police unions typically donate to Republican candidates.
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Since union donations are bad, will the Republican Party reject money from police
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unions Texas. Are there any restaurants having Bowl Game specials today? I don't
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know of any. Off the top of my head. I'm sure they probably
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all are. If it's a sports bar, yeah, they're probably doing.
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I don't know of any in particular, I do not, but I'm sure
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they probably all are. Jeff as the story posted at w metro news dot
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com for the most recent board meeting from the Kaon County School System. Reports
49:45
are that there had been discussion at nearly every recent Canawa County board meeting about
49:50
transgender students being allowed to use the restrooms of the genders that they identify with.
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Now, the comments almost always coming during the public comment period, as
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Jeff's story on the website lays out, But of Education attorney Lindsey McIntosh went
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over with the board a memo that she had sent to board members after she
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was asked to research the issue. Now, McIntosh says federal law requires the
50:13
school system to allow trans students to use the restroom of the gender that they
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identify with. Now, this comes from a US Supreme Court case, as
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as she laid out, Now, whether you like it or you don't,
50:32
the federal law is pretty clear on this that students are to be allowed to
50:39
use the restroom with the gender that they identify with. If not, it
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violates federal law. Now, the board members, from what I told,
50:50
did not give their opinions on the issue during the meeting. There was one
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member of the public, Derrick Evans. I'm not sure that it's that derreck
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Evans or not, I don't think it is called out board members on the
51:02
issue saying they should be fired from their day jobs, saying, quote,
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I don't know of any employer who would want to hire employees who are knowingly,
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in my opinion, aiding out of betting the sexual harassment of children and
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quote Now you can read the story for yourself at wv metronews dot com.
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And again, no matter how you feel about this, and I certainly have
51:25
my opinions, which I've given on the show, the board is just doing
51:30
here what federal law says, and that's not always what we want to hear,
51:37
but that's what the federal law says, and it's going to have to
51:40
be overturned by the Supreme Court. I have a feeling we have not certainly
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heard the last of this, tech says a very Tar is pro life,
51:50
whereas legislation to subsidized pre natal care for all babies and expecting mothers. All
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right, I gotta go. My thanks to Center financi share Eric Tar for
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on the show today and also to Rich the realtor client for being on the
52:04
show today as well. Deale Cooper is my producer. Thank you so much
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coop. I'm headed down to the Native land down to Logan County. Myself
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and several of our other sister stations will be there broadcasting life again for Thornhill,
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Toyota, starting just after eleven o'clock or so this morning. I'll be
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there on her sister station ninety seven a Mountain at that time Mountaineer Bowl coverage
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for the Duke's Mayo Bowl. I believe Jeff Jingis doesn't like Mayo. I've
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learned something today. The Duke's Mayo Bowl. Our coverage starts at noon today
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and we will have game coverage from ESPN coming up today as well. So
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go Mouth and Ears coming up on the show tomorrow. Stephen Allen Adam from
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Logs to the newspapers and what's for doing? The Secretary of Saint mac Warner,
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