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Raiders vs. Chiefs Recap, Raiders Defensive Turnaround & Week 17 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 1: What's up DJ Bucky here as we look at one
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Speaker 1: of the biggest games from the weekend, which was the
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Speaker 1: Raiders going on the road and getting after the Kansas
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs, which there's a lot to get to on
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Speaker 1: the Raiders side of things. We want to give them
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Speaker 1: their love and we will do that in a little bit,
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Speaker 1: but I want to start first of all, Buck, get
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Speaker 1: your opinion. I watched it live, then watch the tape
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Speaker 1: this morning. Just your opinion on Chiefs offense and what
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Speaker 1: the heck is wrong.
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Speaker 2: With this group.
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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs overall are pressing on offense. I
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Speaker 3: think the biggest thing that the Chiefs are dealing with
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Speaker 3: is they're competing with the former versions of themselves, meaning
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Speaker 3: that everyone when they look at the Chiefs, they finally
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Speaker 3: remember the days of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey just
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Speaker 3: running past everybody, the acrobatic acts, the aerial circus that
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Speaker 3: was in Arrowhead.
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Speaker 2: That team no longer exists.
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Speaker 3: And so as soon as the Chiefs come to that
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Speaker 3: realization that they are a different team and that they
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Speaker 3: have to play a methodical brand of football that requires
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Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes to get the ball out of his hands quickly.
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Speaker 3: That requires maybe a little more reliance on the running game.
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Speaker 3: That they have to be more of a half court
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Speaker 3: offense than a fast break offense. They'll be better for it.
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Speaker 3: Right now, they want to go back and try and
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Speaker 3: get these big chunk players whatever, and it's not there.
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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, Andy Reid has to be more
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Speaker 3: patient and discipline when it comes to taking the three
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Speaker 3: and four yard play, whether it's on the run or
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Speaker 3: the quick passing game. They have to make a decision
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Speaker 3: that they're going to be more efficient operating a deac
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Speaker 3: and dunk style of offense as opposed to trying to
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Speaker 3: push and push the envelope with all these creative plays
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Speaker 3: to generate these explosives. Right now, they don't have a
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Speaker 3: team that has the players that can deliver those explosive plays.
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Speaker 2: So they got to make the change and be who
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Speaker 2: they are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned half court playing half court hoops, and
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Speaker 1: that's when I watched it, buck Man like that they're there.
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Speaker 1: They are getting plastered. It is so weird to look
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Speaker 1: at it where they're just they can't uncover. The field
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Speaker 1: is shrunk, the safeties were. We used to always joke
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Speaker 1: and say the safeties were in the parking lot. Starting
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Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills on that Thursday night, you know
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Speaker 1: amazon game that we did a million years ago. This
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Speaker 1: is uh, this is a different offense. And then so okay,
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Speaker 1: well the field's gonna shrink, so we gotta have guys
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Speaker 1: that can run after catch. They're not good after the catch.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: You you watch that same day, you watch San Francisco
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Speaker 1: and you watch Deebo Samuel and I. You can kiddle
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Speaker 1: when all these guys after the catch. Now, they had
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Speaker 1: a nice job. Kelsey had a nice stiff arm. He
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Speaker 1: got out in the open field and uh, and was
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Speaker 1: able to do something with the ball in his hands.
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Speaker 1: But man, they do not have that on the whole.
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Speaker 1: Also in this game, you know, the tackle situation is
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Speaker 1: not great. That that is that is an issue. Their
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Speaker 1: best plays were, you know, in terms of just getting
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Speaker 1: something positive, we're just screens where you're not getting a
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Speaker 1: ton of yards after the catch, but at least you're
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Speaker 1: getting positive plays. So they're a little bit of a mess.
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Speaker 1: And Mahomes I have never seen him in the past
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Speaker 1: drop his eyes as much as he did when he
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Speaker 1: did have some clean pockets. He bailed on more than
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Speaker 1: a few because he'd been hit and he doesn't really
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Speaker 1: trust his guys, so he's looking at the rush. He's
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Speaker 1: not seeing some things. There's an opportunity for a go ball,
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Speaker 1: a deep ball that he didn't take advantage of because
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Speaker 1: you know, his eyes were dropped. It also shows me that,
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Speaker 1: you know, for as much as we talk about how
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Speaker 1: great some of these players are, and Mahomes no question,
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Speaker 1: when we do trucks and trailers, he's a truck. You know,
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Speaker 1: he drives, he can drive it. He makes other people better.
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Speaker 1: But it does show you the difference and what the
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Speaker 1: numbers look like and what the performance looks like when
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Speaker 1: you don't have some of the pieces he's had in place,
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Speaker 1: you know, throughout his career, when they've gotten a little
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Speaker 1: worse on the offensive line, you don't have the speed
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Speaker 1: at receiver, you aren't quite as accomplished elsewhere, Mahomes looks
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Speaker 1: a little more mortal. And that's why when people get
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Speaker 1: mad at us and say when we get crushed, hey,
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Speaker 1: you missed on this quarterback or you missed on that quarterback.
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Speaker 1: You know what the environment matters, where you go matters
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Speaker 1: and this is an example. My homes is still playing
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Speaker 1: like a maybe A B plus A minus quarterback, but
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Speaker 1: not the A plus maybe in the discussion is the
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Speaker 1: greatest of all time because the environment's changed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ, And so this is a lesson for everybody.
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Speaker 2: It's a lesson for all of us.
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Speaker 3: Like, as much as we want to individualize football, you
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Speaker 3: can't do it. As much as we want to make
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Speaker 3: the quarterback solely responsible for the success of failure of
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Speaker 3: a team, it doesn't happen like that. There is not
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Speaker 3: a great quarterback that doesn't play with great players, like
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Speaker 3: you have to have great players on the other end.
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Speaker 3: As much as we like to romanticize the fact that, oh,
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Speaker 3: this guy makes his team better, yes they can, but
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Speaker 3: those players need to already be at a B B
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Speaker 3: plus level to become as You don't take a D
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Speaker 3: and make an A.
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Speaker 2: And what we're seeing in Kansas City.
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Speaker 3: Look, and I understand this because I understand the mindset
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Speaker 3: that Andy Reid had haven't been in Green Bay together.
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Speaker 3: There was a lot made when we're in Green Bay
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Speaker 3: about the system making the players on the perimeter. You
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Speaker 3: have a Hall of Fame quarterback. Look, the system will
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Speaker 3: elevate the players. The one thing though, is might have
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Speaker 3: underestimated how good and how talented Tyreek Hill was, because
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Speaker 3: the loss of Tyreek Hill has certainly changed the way
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Speaker 3: this Chief's offense has played. Yes, they won a Super
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Speaker 3: Bowl last year, but now the further we get away
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Speaker 3: from Tyreek Hill, the more we see the regression of
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Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey as he gets older. We're seeing that and
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Speaker 3: the other thing that normally, in most cases, we would
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Speaker 3: make this a big deal, but when you lose your
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, some things go out the door when he leaves.
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Speaker 3: And I know that Andy Reid has always been the
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Speaker 3: masterful play caller in those things. But I am beginning
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Speaker 3: to wonder without Eric B. Enemy and hearing some of
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Speaker 3: the things that were attributed to Eric B. Enemy and
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Speaker 3: watching about the demands and how he was coaching guys hard,
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Speaker 3: I do wonder if some of that hard coaching is
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Speaker 3: missed in Kansas City when it comes to just the
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Speaker 3: little things like lining up right, some of the drops
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Speaker 3: that we're seeing, some of the just the erarors gafs
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Speaker 3: that we're staying from this team that we haven't seen
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Speaker 3: in the past. Not saying that eb was the play
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Speaker 3: call of responsible for that, But sometimes when you're the coordinator,
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Speaker 3: your job is to clean up like the little details
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Speaker 3: that the head coach may miss. And I do wonder
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Speaker 3: have they lost some of that attention to detail as
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Speaker 3: well as some of the talent that went out the door.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all flipping around to you. Though they have the
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Speaker 1: Bengals at home, then they're at the Chargers to finish
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Speaker 1: up the season. It doesn't look right. They're not playing
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Speaker 1: great offensively. They have issues that I don't think are
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Speaker 1: going to get totally resolved until the offseason have a
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Speaker 1: chance to add some more pieces. That being said, are
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Speaker 1: you really do you really want to play these guys
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Speaker 1: in the postseason with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes? You
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Speaker 1: really want that matchup if you're some of these teams
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Speaker 1: in the AFC. I don't think the AFC is a
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Speaker 1: dominant conference right now. I know at the very top
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Speaker 1: what we saw from Baltimore it isn't is an elite
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Speaker 1: level team. But I mean Miami Dolphins, they already beat them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know anybody that they're going to
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Speaker 1: really fear if they get into the tournament. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they play Buffalo close, lost by three points. They can
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Speaker 1: play with anybody even when they're not right, So that
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Speaker 1: still makes them a very dangerous team. Loston Detroit obviously
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Speaker 1: the first game near by one point, So this is
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Speaker 1: still to me. Just let's not kick dirt on the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs just yet, no DJ.
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Speaker 3: And here's the great thing about the playoffs, right, the
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Speaker 3: great thing about the playoffs is the great opportunity to reset,
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Speaker 3: and the coaches and the teams are handling the right way.
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Speaker 3: Hey man, once you get into the tournament, doesn't matter
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Speaker 3: what you're seeding is. You got just as much of
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Speaker 3: a chance to go to the Super Bowl as anybody else.
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Speaker 3: Can you get your mind right? You would like to
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Speaker 3: go in with a little momentum, but we've seen, man,
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Speaker 3: you create your own momentum in the postseason. The kans
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Speaker 3: City Chiefs, they just have to make sure they get
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Speaker 3: into the tournament. Then you have two time MVP, you
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Speaker 3: have a head coach who knows how to win a
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: You have a defense that's playing liights out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, you can't dismiss their chances of re emerging
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Speaker 3: as the team to beat in the AFC. We just
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Speaker 3: haven't had enough visual evidence of late to fully back
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Speaker 3: the Cancity Chiefs as a team that can go back
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Speaker 3: to back.
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Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, let's switch gears here. It's time
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Speaker 1: for sacks and quarterbacks, and let's give the Raiders their love.
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Speaker 1: Let's give Antonio Pierce his love. Let's give that defense
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Speaker 1: led by Max Crosby, their love for what they did
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Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs. It is. It has definitely
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Speaker 1: been a power statement from Antonio Pierce to let his
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Speaker 1: bosses know, Hey, maybe last time you had Rich Passacia,
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Speaker 1: the team was playing well, you got into the postseason,
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Speaker 1: you decided to go out and hire a bunch of
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Speaker 1: new guys and really kind of kick the old guard out.
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Speaker 1: Antonio Piers is saying, hey, don't make that mistake another
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Speaker 1: time here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's done a really good job.
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Speaker 3: DJ and I think when you watch the tape you
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Speaker 3: saw this, I am really amazed at how simplistic the
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Speaker 3: game plan was for the Las Vegas Raiders. You know,
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Speaker 3: there's a little bluster coming out of the Raiders camp
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Speaker 3: before the game about hey man, physicality, violence, really kind
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Speaker 3: of punching the Kansasity Chiefs in the mouth. If they're
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Speaker 3: going to do all the other stuff like you got
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Speaker 3: to hit them, You got to make it a very
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Speaker 3: physical affair. With dj W, it really came down the effort, discipline, physicality.
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Speaker 3: Those zones where we're talking about those guys now uncovered
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Speaker 3: dj those zones were high.
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Speaker 2: School three deep defenses, four under three deep. Hey, they
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Speaker 2: throw the check down, they rallied, and they tackled.
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Speaker 3: But they were able to play those seven man zones
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Speaker 3: and a little occasional man the man because up front
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Speaker 3: they were absolutely wearing them out. Max Crosby and Coats,
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Speaker 3: they were just ripping and running, relentless in their pursuit
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Speaker 3: of the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: And look, they made Pat Mahomes uncomfortable. And so it
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Speaker 2: ain't about the trickery.
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Speaker 3: It's about the execution, and the execution from the Raiders
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Speaker 3: the last few weeks has been suburb which is a
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Speaker 3: testament to what Antonio Pears and Patrick Graham and all
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Speaker 3: the other coaches have done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to give EARLD colleague Mike Mayck a
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Speaker 1: little love here too, because when you look at Max Crosby,
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Speaker 1: who's really one of the best players in the league
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Speaker 1: regardless of position, Mike had hit a home run that one. Also,
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Coots had three sacks in this game. He's got
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Speaker 1: seven sacks now on the year. He has turned himself
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Speaker 1: into a really, really good young player. He's twenty five
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Speaker 1: years old in his third season, really starting to produce
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Speaker 1: and gives them a pair of dynamic edge rushers there
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Speaker 1: on the opposite side. You mentioned Patrick Graham doing a
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Speaker 1: wonderful job as well. It's been impressive to watch it.
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Speaker 1: I saw it. I mean the week before Jack Jones
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Speaker 1: jumping in the lineup, jumping route for a pick six
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Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Why not double up do the same
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Speaker 1: thing again in this one. So it's been fun to
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Speaker 1: watch how hard they're playing. And I think, to me,
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Speaker 1: I think it's understood or people expect that you're going
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Speaker 1: to see the same effort your professionals. What that entails
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Speaker 1: as you show up and you give your best every week.
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Speaker 1: But there's a different level of passion that these guys
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Speaker 1: are playing with buck that I don't know where to
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Speaker 1: attribute it other than to Antonio Pearson and their group.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, j you get what you demand, and so I
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Speaker 3: think what they've done is they've demanded more effort. To me,
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Speaker 3: when I look at this team and watching the team closely,
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Speaker 3: I see a team that look, man, and what they're
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Speaker 3: doing isn't complex, but man, they really dialt into the
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Speaker 3: game plan. They really do a good job of late
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Speaker 3: of anticipating what is about to happen. Whether it's they've
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Speaker 3: done a better job of really studying the tape and
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Speaker 3: understand information tendencies and down in distance in those things,
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Speaker 3: or just having a better overall awareness and understanding of
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Speaker 3: what the scheme is being what the scheme demands of
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Speaker 3: the players. But I am watching the team that man,
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Speaker 3: they are hunting the ball and they're getting to the
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Speaker 3: ball with like reckless abandon and the only way you
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Speaker 3: can do it like that is you know what you're
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Speaker 3: doing so you can play fast. So hats off to
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Speaker 3: them for simplifying whatever it is that they were doing
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Speaker 3: or teaching and explaining the techniques and the scheme very
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Speaker 3: clearly so the players know exactly what they do so
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Speaker 3: they can just play with their.
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Speaker 2: Hair on fire.
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Speaker 1: No doubt it's working. And hats off to the Raiders.
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Speaker 1: That's a big win for them going on the road
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Speaker 1: and beating the Kansas City Chiefs. All right, we're going
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Speaker 1: to take a quick break when we come back. It
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Speaker 1: is rocky draft time, coming off of a week where gosh,
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Speaker 1: I think Rhett had a good week. Have to give
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Speaker 1: him his flowers here as he's going to have a
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Speaker 1: producer Drew draft for him this week. See if he
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Speaker 1: can keep it rolling. We'll get to that right after this.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, it was a good week for our
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Speaker 1: buddy Rhett in the rookie quarter or rookie Draft, I
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Speaker 1: should say. Last week. He piled up seven points, two
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Speaker 1: first place finishes for the week, with Bryce Young and
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Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs both having big weeks, and then he also
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Speaker 1: got a point from Sam Laporta for being second place
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Speaker 1: on the tight end or the pass catcher spot there.
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Speaker 1: Bucky got a point for de Vito. Somehow, de Vito
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Speaker 1: outscored Aidan O'Connell and ad O'Connell played the whole game.
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Speaker 1: DeVito played about two minutes and still ended up getting
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Speaker 1: me there. Bijon got me a point for a second
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Speaker 1: place finish, and Pooka Nakula got me the first place
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Speaker 1: three points there. So for the season, Drew getting my
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Speaker 1: air here? Am I still holding on here? Who we got?
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Speaker 1: I'm up by three? Okay, so I'm holding on tight here.
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Speaker 1: Drew is going to fill in for Rhet, and so
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Speaker 1: Rhett has the first pick, followed by me and then
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Speaker 1: you and Drew has already given me the heads up
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Speaker 1: to Rehtt's first pick. He's taking Jamiir Gibbs as he
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Speaker 1: tries to keep it rolling there. Jamiir Gibbs has been awesome,
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Speaker 1: so no problem of that selection there. I'm gonna come
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Speaker 1: back Buck. I know that it's not official if he's
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Speaker 1: playing at this point in time, but I'm gonna gamble.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take C. J. Stroud and hope that he's
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Speaker 1: he's good to go and back for the Houston Texans
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Speaker 1: and see if he can't get them back on the
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Speaker 1: right track. Man, they miss him in a big way.
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Speaker 1: So I'll go with Stroud here.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, look, I guess I have to go back
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Speaker 3: to back and this is gonna hurt me because I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna do something that I don't believe it in the
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Speaker 3: fantasy world, but I have to have no choice. I
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Speaker 3: gotta take Bryce Young. He's gonna play against the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: as we can. Hopefully I can get yards, but find
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Speaker 3: a way to lose. And then I'm gonna take b
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Speaker 3: Jhon Robinson right after that. So, I mean I got
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Speaker 3: two playmakers getting ready to go, and that maybe both
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Speaker 3: of those.
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Speaker 2: Guys can have a good week.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that makes it easy for me. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: go Pooka Nakua for the second week in a row.
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Speaker 1: He's been good to me here, so I feel good
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Speaker 1: about this Stroud and Akua combo that I've got. Drew,
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Speaker 1: You've got back to back picks for RHTT here, find
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Speaker 1: a way to screw it up what you got. He's
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Speaker 1: gonna go Za Flowers at the wide receiver spot, and
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Speaker 1: he's going to go Aidan O'Connell at the quarterback spot.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's more of a Drew pick than
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Speaker 1: a REHTT pick. Is Drews a raider guy, and he
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Speaker 1: thinks that Aidan O'Connell is going to complete a pass
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Speaker 1: in the second half this week. He's very confident about that,
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Speaker 1: so he's going to go in that direction. I've got
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Speaker 1: running back gosh, I guess I let's see here, I
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Speaker 1: gotta go eight chan Right, that's gonna be a tough
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Speaker 1: one against the Baltimore Ravens. But maybe he catches the
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Speaker 1: ball on the backfield a little bit. All right, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go eight Chan. I don't like that pick, but
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Speaker 1: that's what I got to do here. Buck, you got
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Speaker 1: the last pick. Yeah, still, because I think I got
14:42
Speaker 1: Jordan Adison got her.
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Speaker 3: So I think I may have to go js in
14:45
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba to see if you can figure
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Speaker 3: it out.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Jackson Smith and Jigbah for Buck. There
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Speaker 1: you have it. Rhett is going to trot out Jamiir Gibbs,
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Speaker 1: Za Flowers, and Aidan O'Connell. I'm going to trot out Stroud,
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Speaker 1: Puka Nakua, and then Devon a Chan and Bucky is
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Speaker 1: going to run out there with Bryce Young, with Bijon Robinson,
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Speaker 1: and with Jackson Smith and Jigba. So it's pretty close.
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Speaker 1: We've got a pretty close race here as we head
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Speaker 1: down the stretch. We'll see how it works out this week.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Bryce Young real quick. Nice to see
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Speaker 1: him get a little protection, have an opportunity to push
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Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Had his best game as
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Speaker 1: a pro. I think that was a good one he
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Speaker 1: can build off of, and I think a good reminder
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Speaker 1: that this guy doesn't stink. He's not void of talent,
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Speaker 1: he just his needs a little help, and he got
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Speaker 1: a little help and Buck we actually saw him play
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Speaker 1: pretty well. I was excited for him. Good for him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he played pretty well the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: The Pantas that played better, kind of settling in under
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Speaker 3: the interim. Hey, coach Chris Taber, So this is a
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Speaker 3: good set of performances for Bryce Young Bill some momentum
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Speaker 3: heading into the all season.
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Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, Well, that's going to do it
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Speaker 1: for us to say this was a fun one. I
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Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it. Again. We will. We're here
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Speaker 1: just about every day with more podcasts, so be on
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Speaker 1: the lookout for those. Until then, we'll see you. And
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Speaker 1: actually I always say that until then, we'll see it
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Speaker 1: doesn't even make any sense. We're leaving right now, is
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If I haven't said it already. Happy
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Speaker 1: New Year, everybody. We'll be back with more episodes here
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Speaker 1: on Move Mistakes,