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Nurse Sydney Sutherland brutally abducted, raped, and killed while jogging near home · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. She is so smart, she
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Speaker 1: is brilliant. She is just twenty five years old with
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Speaker 1: the world in front of her. Just think for a
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Speaker 1: moment what you were doing at age twenty five. All
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Speaker 1: that them and vigor and energy, and the world is
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Speaker 1: still new and bright and shiny. When I was twenty four,
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Speaker 1: I was already a lawyer and trying to get on
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Speaker 1: at the District's Attorney's office. I'm talking, of course, about
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Speaker 1: beautiful Sydney Sutherland, just twenty five years old. But that
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Speaker 1: was not to be, And I want to know why.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Sydney Sutherland, by twenty five
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Speaker 1: year old registered nurse, works at a medical center in Newport, Arkansas.
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Speaker 1: On the afternoon of August nineteenth, she goes for a jog,
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Speaker 1: something she does on a regular basis. Sidney even has
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Speaker 1: a regular route that she follows near her home. A
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Speaker 1: UPS driver reports seeing Sidney during her jog between two
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Speaker 1: thirty and three pm that afternoon, but that was the
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Speaker 1: last time anyone reports seeing her. Later that evening, a
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Speaker 1: call comes into authorities. Sydney Sutherland's car, keys and other
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Speaker 1: belongings are at her house, but Sydney is gone. Just
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Speaker 1: hearing our friend Dave Mack at Crime online dot com
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Speaker 1: saying that just gives me such an overwhelming sense of
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Speaker 1: foreboding because her car, her keys, and other belongings are
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Speaker 1: at her home, but no Sydney again. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nations Series Sex one eleven.
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Speaker 1: Let me introduce to you are all star panel to
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Speaker 1: break it down and put it back together again. First
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Speaker 1: of all, special guests joining us Mitch McCoy from k
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Speaker 1: a r K four. That's Fox sixteen News, Doctor Kendall Crowns,
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Speaker 1: the Deputy Medical Elexandra Travis County, Texas. That's Austin greg Smith,
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Speaker 1: Special Deputy Sheriff, Johnson County Sheriff's Office, Executive director of
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Speaker 1: the Keltsey Smith Foundation, and you can find him at
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Speaker 1: Keltsey's Army dot com. Renowned psychologists joining us from Manhattan.
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Speaker 1: It is Karen Stark. You can find her at Karen
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Speaker 1: Stark dot com. That's with a C, California prosecutor, author
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Speaker 1: of Red Flags, host of Live with Doctor Wendy on KCBQ.
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Speaker 1: You can find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com.
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Speaker 1: And special guests joining me very dear to my heart.
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Speaker 1: Lindsay's brother Sam Sutherland and her mother, Maggie. Miss Sutherland
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Speaker 1: and Sam, thank you so much for being with us. Maggie,
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Speaker 1: when did you first learn that you're a beautiful girl?
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Speaker 1: Sydney was nowhere to be found. It was on that Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: August the nineteenth, at five o'clock. Her boyfriend called and said,
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Speaker 1: have you heard from Sydney? And I said, no, what's
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Speaker 1: going on? He said, well, I'm here at the house
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Speaker 1: because he just got off work. Of the keys are here,
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Speaker 1: the doctor are here. You know. The last I heard
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Speaker 1: from her roots around two forty she was going for
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Speaker 1: a run, and you know, he was working. He's a farmer,
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Speaker 1: so he was working. And I haven't seen her, and
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Speaker 1: I've tried to call her and I can't get her
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Speaker 1: to answer any messages. Miss Southern. Let me ask you
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Speaker 1: a couple of quick questions. The boyfriend, how long have
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Speaker 1: they been together? They together around three years. And when
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Speaker 1: you say he's a farmer, I grew up in rural
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Speaker 1: Middle Georgia and all of our neighbors were farmers. Did
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Speaker 1: he farm his own land? May I ask? Yes? Yes?
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Speaker 1: So he was in control of his schedule. Correct. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they had working hours that day, so he could control
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Speaker 1: when and if he got off his tractor or went
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Speaker 1: back to the home. He worked for himself. It was
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Speaker 1: his farm. He's farming his own land. Correct, that he
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Speaker 1: farmed for his uncle. Right, it was a family it's
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Speaker 1: a family farm from farm with his uncle. But it
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Speaker 1: was near their house the day, the day he was working.
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Speaker 1: He would just you know, had worked that morning by
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Speaker 1: the house. And the reason I asked Miss Sutherland is
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Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. Statistically, when somebody goes missing,
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Speaker 1: cops look first at the husband, the ex husband, the boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: the lover, the sweetheart, the guy that wants to date
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Speaker 1: the person but ken't. That's where you look first. So
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Speaker 1: the very first thing you do when someone disappears or
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Speaker 1: goes missing is to see who they spoke to you last,
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Speaker 1: who reported them missing, and does that person have an alibi?
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Speaker 1: That is, as we say, air tight nights, not to
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Speaker 1: sound cliche. He's out farming, but he's not punching a clock,
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Speaker 1: and he could leave the tractor or the area when
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Speaker 1: he wanted and return when he wanted, so that Southern
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Speaker 1: cops immediately take into account when he called you, which
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Speaker 1: I find very interesting because he's the one that raised
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Speaker 1: the alarm that she's not there. What did you think
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Speaker 1: when he first called you and said, syd he's at home.
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Speaker 1: I said, well, what's going on? And he goes, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, and then he just went over it all
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Speaker 1: that her stuff was there at the house. And last
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Speaker 1: he taught to her was you know, around two forty
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Speaker 1: of the last snatchet that they had, she never opened
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Speaker 1: it and never answered it. In prior to that, she
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Speaker 1: had been answering them and talking. But the phone lines
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Speaker 1: at that time during that day from it looks like
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Speaker 1: from two forty to three or four, I'm not exactly
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Speaker 1: sure what time, just in that area the lines went down,
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Speaker 1: so she was not able to communicate if she was
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Speaker 1: able to communicate. So if she cannot communicate, how did
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Speaker 1: he know that she was going for a run, because
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Speaker 1: she had he had already taught to her earlier. He
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Speaker 1: talked to her about two two o'clock, between two and
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Speaker 1: two thirty, and she texts him as she goes, m
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Speaker 1: fixing to go for a run and then I'll be
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Speaker 1: back home. She was always a real fitness buff. I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at a picture of the two of you together,
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Speaker 1: And to tell you the truth, you know, I had
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Speaker 1: to look hard at the picture to figure out who
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Speaker 1: is Sydney and who is her mother. You two look
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Speaker 1: like you look like sisters, almost like twins as a
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, both with the same big smile, the
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Speaker 1: same hair, the same hair style, the same eyes. She
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Speaker 1: is a mini me of yours. I call my little
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Speaker 1: girl my mini me sometimes right to her face, because
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Speaker 1: we like the same thing as we do the same things.
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Speaker 1: Is Sydney a lot like you? Yes, ma'am. Sydney and I,
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've been told that many times that we
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Speaker 1: look like sisters. But Sydney and I were very very close.
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Speaker 1: Even in the investigation. When they did start doing the investigation,
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Speaker 1: the questions were, you know, who would know the best
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Speaker 1: about Sydney and would know the most about it, and
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Speaker 1: her best friend goes, you need to talk to her
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Speaker 1: mom because her mom is her best friend. She's by
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Speaker 1: her side all the time, and if anything needs to
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Speaker 1: be known, her mom knows about Sydney because they are
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Speaker 1: just being close all of her life. And the one
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Speaker 1: that Sidney always want to rely on what her mom.
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Speaker 1: When you first realized she wasn't where she was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be. Where did you think she would be at?
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Speaker 1: What time did he call you? Did you say around
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Speaker 1: five five o'clock? Yes, ma'am. Where should she have been
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Speaker 1: at five o'clock on a Wednesday? Well, at that time
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Speaker 1: I did not know. He had to tell me, Like,
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Speaker 1: the last I talked to her was around two, and
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Speaker 1: she's going for a run because I had not spoke
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Speaker 1: to her since about twelve o'clock that day. Prior to that,
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Speaker 1: we had just got home from a week vacation in Florida,
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Speaker 1: so we just got home the night before. They got
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Speaker 1: home at nine and Stamini and his family got home
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Speaker 1: about ten, So I didn't see her till the next morning,
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Speaker 1: and she came by my house around twelve o'clock. We
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Speaker 1: don't have like a really big local gym or anything,
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Speaker 1: So she drove to Jones's Old which is about thirty
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Speaker 1: miles away, and she did her workout with a trainer
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Speaker 1: that she goes to because she hadn't been there in
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Speaker 1: a week and she was just she loved to work
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Speaker 1: out running. Is that a male trainer or a female trainer?
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Speaker 1: Um their husband and wife there on the train, their
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Speaker 1: Gym Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to Sam Sutherland joining
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Speaker 1: us in addition to Mom Maggie. Sam, So you you
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Speaker 1: all went together on vacation, Yes, ma'am, Yes, where did
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Speaker 1: you go? We went to this in Florida for a week. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what you can't beat that you can't beat
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Speaker 1: in the Okay. So we had a wonderful time and
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Speaker 1: I sent many many a happy time on golf coat.
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Speaker 1: It's not far from where my dad's farm in Alabama. Um, Sam,
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Speaker 1: when did you first realize you? Are you and your
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Speaker 1: sister close? I'm very close with my sister and brother,
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Speaker 1: are you? Yes? Yes, we talked, we quite well actually
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Speaker 1: that morning the morning. Note we also farm, my family,
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Speaker 1: my dad, me, me and my dad and my brother.
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Speaker 1: We all farmed together. Yeah. And actually the road she's
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Speaker 1: running on is a much up to our farm, and
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Speaker 1: we all these farmed but up together. Yes, I know
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Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. Sometimes you don't know one
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Speaker 1: one piece of land ends and the next one begins.
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Speaker 1: But I guarantee of the farmers at farming know for sure.
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Speaker 1: If you seem when did you when were you told
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Speaker 1: Sydney's not where she's supposed to be. Was that a
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Speaker 1: day she was supposed to be at work? Uh? No, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: my mom, I just picked up my daughter. I have
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Speaker 1: two daughters, and that's what That's one thing about Sydney.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't a mom, she was a she was an aunt.
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Speaker 1: So you learned that day as well. Do you guys
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Speaker 1: know if she was apposed to report to work that day? No, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: she was don't not supposed to report to work. So
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Speaker 1: that makes it even more difficult. Let me go to you,
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Speaker 1: Mitch McCoy ka Ark four, Fox sixteen News. The first
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Speaker 1: thing you want to do when somebody goes missing is
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Speaker 1: nail down a timeline, and it always helps me to
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Speaker 1: know what their routine is or should be on that days.
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Speaker 1: In my mind, out of all the cases I've ever
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Speaker 1: prosecuted or investigated or covered, when somebody has to report
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Speaker 1: to work, that is a keystone of the investigation because
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Speaker 1: if they don't report to work, you know they're missing
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Speaker 1: at Let's just say, as a prosecutor, eight am, if
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Speaker 1: I didn't report to work, there's something wrong. But on
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Speaker 1: a day when you don't have to report to work,
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Speaker 1: then your schedule is fluid and it's a lot harder
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Speaker 1: to nail down a timeline. Mitch McCoy, when did you
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Speaker 1: a ka Ark four Fox sixteen, learn that Sydney Sutherland
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Speaker 1: was miss well, it was that day, and I think
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Speaker 1: that that speaks to just how small of a town
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Speaker 1: that Jackson County is. They knew that when Sydney didn't
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Speaker 1: come home that something was wrong. They had volunteers out
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Speaker 1: later that night after five o'clock, continued through the early
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Speaker 1: morning hours that following day. It searched picked back up,
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Speaker 1: and at this point it's it's every agency you can
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Speaker 1: think of in the state, from the Department of Correction
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Speaker 1: their dogs to horses and helicopters from the state police.
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Speaker 1: They knew that something was wrong. Here with me, miss McCoy,
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Speaker 1: Kark four Fox sixteen, Mitch, I want to circle back
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Speaker 1: to something you just said. You said in a town
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Speaker 1: that small, I came from an area that was not
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Speaker 1: even a town. It was unincorporated bib County. We have
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Speaker 1: a making address making Georgia in the very geographical center
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Speaker 1: the state, but we didn't live anywhere near the city.
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Speaker 1: I was naked. So tell me about this area where
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Speaker 1: Sydney goes missing. It's very important to the investigation. I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you why, but you tell me about the area first. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: very The area is incredibly small. The local high school graduates,
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Speaker 1: if memory serves correctly, maybe fifty or so in a class.
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Speaker 1: The sheriff knows Sydney personally, so this is a small
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Speaker 1: town that everyone knows everyone. So when the alarm bell
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Speaker 1: started ringing, they knew that something was very off here.
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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, Maggie, miss Southerland, what was going through
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Speaker 1: your mind as the hours tick by and you don't
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Speaker 1: hear from Sydney, what were you thinking? I was very devastated, but,
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Speaker 1: like I said, as soon as I got there out
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Speaker 1: so there, you know, I looked in the house just
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Speaker 1: to see what I could find that maybe was not
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Speaker 1: or anything. Everything was all okay. She had changed her
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Speaker 1: shoes because everyone's talking about her pink Tenny shoes, but
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Speaker 1: they're laying there. She did not use them to run
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Speaker 1: out on the dirt road. I was like, so she
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Speaker 1: changed to her running shoes for running out on the farm.
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Speaker 1: She'd even changed her clothes. They were laying right there
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Speaker 1: and where she changed. So everything looked normal and Alex
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Speaker 1: and I talked well immediately I just start calling sam
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Speaker 1: My son, Tyler, her older brother, and her dad. I
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Speaker 1: was like, I need y'all here now, something's wrong. I
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Speaker 1: just know something wrong. Some Sydney is not here. I
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Speaker 1: need y'all to get here. And Sam said he just
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Speaker 1: picked up the girls to come straight there and her Tyler,
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Speaker 1: her other brother, and Dingham was there immediately. They immediately
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Speaker 1: start driving down that road where she ran, just like
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Speaker 1: you know, everybody checking it out. I stayed at the house.
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Speaker 1: I started calling the sheriffs office. I was calling at
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Speaker 1: and t like I'm trying to get down to ping
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Speaker 1: in on her phone. You know I would already. I mean,
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Speaker 1: in my heart, I knew something were drunk because that
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Speaker 1: Sydney just does not do disappear like that. I want
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Speaker 1: to follow up on what you're saying. Two things to
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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick about the shoes, and to Karen start the
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Speaker 1: feeling the mom. Maggie Sutherland got Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: author of Red Flags, host of Live with Doctor Wendy
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Speaker 1: k CBQ. Wendy, the mom is just telling us that
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Speaker 1: people got it wrong about her daughter's shoes, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that are not experts would think that's
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Speaker 1: neither here nor there. Who kills what kind of shoes
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Speaker 1: she's got on, It's very significant. It's very significant as
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, because it tells me where she
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Speaker 1: most likely was. Her mother knows that she wore a
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Speaker 1: certain pair of shoes to go run on the dirt road.
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Speaker 1: She would not wear her pink Tina shoes no more
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Speaker 1: than I would wear a pair of high heels I
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Speaker 1: have to use to make appearances out to go jogging
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Speaker 1: or to play badminton or basketball with the twins. That
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Speaker 1: wouldn't happen. So that kind of clue is very significant.
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Speaker 1: And when moms like Maggie Southern or another person close
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Speaker 1: to a victim says something like that, cops need to
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Speaker 1: listen because it's very very critical. That's right. And that's
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons, Nancy, that investigative skills are so
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Speaker 1: key when you have cases like this, when somebody goes missing,
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Speaker 1: and I know that is just every parent's nightmare to
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Speaker 1: hear that all of their child's belongings are where they're
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Speaker 1: supposed to be and their child is not. But if
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Speaker 1: a certain pair of shoes is also missing, then you're
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Speaker 1: absolutely right on a free day where there's no obligation
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Speaker 1: to be at work or at school of picking up children.
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Speaker 1: It is those little details that are so valuable in
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Speaker 1: piecing together or they might have gone, where they might
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Speaker 1: be and where police can start first, if you, Karen,
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Speaker 1: start NewYork psychologists joining us, Karen, did you hear what
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Speaker 1: Maggie said? She's standing there, she sees the home, she
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Speaker 1: sees everything in place, and she knows right then something
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Speaker 1: is very wrong. She starts calling everybody she knows, the dad,
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Speaker 1: the brothers, this that everybody get out there and start
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Speaker 1: looking for Sydney. That instinct is much more than a hunch.
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Speaker 1: It's something that is borne by literally thousands of years
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Speaker 1: of evolution. And I don't like it when investigators pooh
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Speaker 1: pooh it, Well they're wrong. Answer to poop poo it.
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Speaker 1: You know more than anyone what it's like to, especially
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Speaker 1: a mother's instinct. Mother's know. I remember once I was
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Speaker 1: in a car accident and my mom called her and said,
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Speaker 1: what's wrong? And it was just amazing to me that
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Speaker 1: she stuff and she wasn't there the sense that something
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Speaker 1: had happened. And it is much more than just something
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Speaker 1: that's a hunch. There's a lot of scientific evidence to
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Speaker 1: show that this is true. When you heaven instinctive feeling
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Speaker 1: that something is wrong, pay attention. And this mother knew
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Speaker 1: her daughter. You know what, Karen Stark, it brings to
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Speaker 1: mind Phil Vatranto, the father of the Long Island jog
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Speaker 1: or Koeen of Vatronto. He typically jogged with her, but
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Speaker 1: that day she hadn't been gone. He didn't go. Fifteen
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Speaker 1: minutes after she was gone out the door, he got
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Speaker 1: an overwhelming sense of concern. He actually felt he heard
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Speaker 1: her call his name, Daddy. He knew something was wrong.
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Speaker 1: Just like Maggie Sutherland is telling us right now. People
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Speaker 1: listen to what mom is saying. Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the disappearance of Sydney Southland, just twenty
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Speaker 1: five years old. She's a mama's girl. She's mom's mini me,
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Speaker 1: and mom knows something is very, very wrong, joining me.
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Speaker 1: Special Deputy's Sheriff, Johnson County Sheriff's Office, Kansas Executive Director
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Speaker 1: Kelsey Smith Foundation, Greg Smith. You know, Greg, I was
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Speaker 1: talking about establishing a timeline and when Kelsey went missing,
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Speaker 1: y'all you guys were expecting her home. I believe, as
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Speaker 1: you said, she was about eight miles away, eight minutes
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Speaker 1: away or so from home, and she didn't make it home,
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Speaker 1: and you knew almost immediately after half an hour passes
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Speaker 1: something's not right. Oh, exactly, Nancy. In fact, well, I
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Speaker 1: was listening to what you were talking about. There's a
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Speaker 1: couple of things that really came to mind. One is
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Speaker 1: talking about that instinct toward that intuition that that parents,
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Speaker 1: are family or even friends sometimes have about their loved one,
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Speaker 1: and investigators paying attention to that. That's something that we
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Speaker 1: teach when we go out to law enforcement and do
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Speaker 1: different things with the Kelsey Smith Foundation, that that's a
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Speaker 1: key thing to pay attention to. It really does. It's
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Speaker 1: an indicator for an investigator because these people know the
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Speaker 1: pattern of life of this person, whether it's on their
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Speaker 1: day off or whether it's on the day that they're
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Speaker 1: supposed to be working. And the other thing that is
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Speaker 1: really critical I notice in this case is the cell
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Speaker 1: phone location data. And the cell phone is a is
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Speaker 1: a database a pattern of life. I mean, if an
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Speaker 1: investigator can get his hands on a cell phone and
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Speaker 1: get access to the information that's in there, you can
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Speaker 1: figure out where that person's been and they've been there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing how much information. Even people
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Speaker 1: that say, well I don't share my data, I don't
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Speaker 1: use this, it's still there. That data. Oh, it is
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Speaker 1: so there. You are so right, Greg Smith joining us
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Speaker 1: from Kansas and speaking of data, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at Jackson County. As a sheriff, David Lucas,
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Speaker 1: we have the only thing we know of right now
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Speaker 1: is we have a confirmed sighting of her at around
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Speaker 1: between two thirty and three o'clock yesterday afternoon in the
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Speaker 1: area of Jackson County Road forty one, which is just
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Speaker 1: north and kind of west of her residence. She was
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Speaker 1: on foot without walking and jogging. We received that information
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Speaker 1: from an UPS driver this morning that saw her. We're
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Speaker 1: kind of concentrating on that general area because with the
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Speaker 1: phone things that we've been getting from AT and T,
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Speaker 1: plus the information from the people that said they saw her,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty much going to be in that general area,
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Speaker 1: and that's where we're concentrating the most right now. We're
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Speaker 1: not ruling anything out. You're hearing the sheriff speaking and
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Speaker 1: he just devolves something very very important and I want
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Speaker 1: you to harken back to the Jennifer Dulo's case to
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Speaker 1: Connecticut missing mom of five, and you know, all of
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Speaker 1: you legal eagles, that the cops in that Connecticut area
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Speaker 1: put together an incredible video montage from home residential home
22:27
Speaker 1: security cameras, from businesses, gas stations, the nel salon to
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Speaker 1: this that to see the car, the target car going by.
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Speaker 1: Even when a school bus open the doors, the video
22:40
Speaker 1: camera in the bus catches a car go by. That
22:45
Speaker 1: is how critical the surveillance video is. And we are
22:48
Speaker 1: learning that a UPS worker confirms seeing her the previous day.
22:55
Speaker 1: But now we gotta find out did the UPS worker
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Speaker 1: have a surveillance and in the vehicle And also take
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Speaker 1: a listen to Logan Whealie Kai T News eight. Plenty
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Speaker 1: of people are still out and about looking for twenty
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Speaker 1: five year old Sydney Sutherland. Here's what we learned from
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Speaker 1: Sheriff David Lucas this morning. Jackson County authorities and volunteers
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Speaker 1: search late into Wednesday night searching for the twenty five
23:20
Speaker 1: year old. Chriff Lucas says he doesn't have any solid
23:23
Speaker 1: leads on her whereabouts other than that she was seen
23:25
Speaker 1: last or Wednesday afternoon as a UPS driver saw heard
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Speaker 1: near County Road forty one. Sheriff Lucas says he's leaving
23:32
Speaker 1: no stone unturned and trying to find her. We're working
23:36
Speaker 1: every aspect we can think of, from the social media
23:39
Speaker 1: side to the physical side, so we're not really ruling
23:43
Speaker 1: anything you're hearing Sheriff David Lucas speaking. So right then
23:47
Speaker 1: and there, you know, the cops are already looking at
23:49
Speaker 1: a the boyfriend, although Mom Maggie Sutherland tells me they
23:53
Speaker 1: weren't having any problems. She went to the home. Nothing
23:57
Speaker 1: seemed amiss, nothing odd about his demeanor, except if you
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Speaker 1: wanted to find Sydney, then you got the UPS driver
24:03
Speaker 1: that says he saw her. He would immediately come under
24:06
Speaker 1: suspicion just by the fact that he says he saw her.
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Speaker 1: We also know she went to the gym earlier. They're
24:12
Speaker 1: looking for video from the gym, but the reality is
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Speaker 1: Mom Maggie tells me she made it back from the
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Speaker 1: gym because her clothes and her shoes are there in
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Speaker 1: the home, so nobody snatched her at the gym. And
24:27
Speaker 1: then suddenly a break in the case. The cell phone
24:32
Speaker 1: of Sydney Sutherland has recovered a quarter mile from her home.
24:36
Speaker 1: A quarter mile from her home. Now to you, Mitch
24:41
Speaker 1: McCoy k a r K four Fox sixteen described the
24:46
Speaker 1: area for me where her phone was found. Well, the
24:49
Speaker 1: phone was found about a mile or so from her home.
24:56
Speaker 1: This was a very rural area, dirt row, a lot
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Speaker 1: of farmland, and the sheriff came out and said that
25:05
Speaker 1: they had found the phone and the phone was not damaged,
25:09
Speaker 1: which which was alluding now at that point that there
25:13
Speaker 1: was possibly some kind of abduction. That was the feel
25:16
Speaker 1: from law enforcement, even though they were not saying it.
25:20
Speaker 1: It was certainly the field that you got. And I
25:22
Speaker 1: believe it was in that news conference that they ruled
25:25
Speaker 1: out the boyfriend. They said that the boyfriend is not
25:27
Speaker 1: a suspect, that he has an airtight alibi. They sure
25:32
Speaker 1: jed to doctor Kendall Crowns, Deputy Medical Examiner, Travis County.
25:35
Speaker 1: That's Austin, Texas, doctor Kendall Crowns. We know, for instance,
25:39
Speaker 1: in the career of a Toronto case in DNA not
25:42
Speaker 1: only her DNA but her killers a DNA were both
25:46
Speaker 1: on her cell phone. How does it happen, Well, anytime
25:49
Speaker 1: you touch an object, the oils in your hands or
25:54
Speaker 1: your skin cells themselves can be transferred to anything. It's
25:58
Speaker 1: cell phones, clothing, cars, anything you touch, you're leaving traces
26:07
Speaker 1: of DNA on. So it's something that most people don't
26:10
Speaker 1: realize that everything you handle, you've covered in your DNA,
26:14
Speaker 1: and then anybody who handles it after you is also
26:17
Speaker 1: covering it in their DNA. You're so right, Doctor Kindall Crowns.
26:20
Speaker 1: Is called touch DNA for a reason. So when you
26:24
Speaker 1: touch things, you're not only leaving behind fingerprints through the natural,
26:30
Speaker 1: naturally occurring oil in your body, that oil is leaving
26:35
Speaker 1: DNA behind. The cell phone discovery was a major breakthrough
26:41
Speaker 1: in the search for Sydney Sutherland. But then fate intervenes.
26:45
Speaker 1: Take a listen to Kate would All Kai Region eight,
26:49
Speaker 1: those close to Sydney confirming just a few minutes ago
26:52
Speaker 1: that the body discovered today was hers. This is coming
26:56
Speaker 1: from Sydney's boyfriend's parents. The body discovered was in Knee.
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Speaker 1: Sutherland straight out to Maggie Sutherland. How did you learn
27:04
Speaker 1: Sydney had been found? I was out on the search
27:08
Speaker 1: that day. You know, we had probably three hundred plus
27:14
Speaker 1: people out on the search, but we were all searching.
27:16
Speaker 1: They put us in areas in anyway, I was with
27:19
Speaker 1: my best friends and we were out. We had just
27:22
Speaker 1: found a spot on side of the roads where they
27:26
Speaker 1: had found the phone that Thursday. So in that area
27:31
Speaker 1: we were really searching her and we were on our
27:34
Speaker 1: hands and knees. There was probably six to ten of
27:37
Speaker 1: us there. Other people were pulled in there, and all
27:40
Speaker 1: of a sudden I found a bead and I was like,
27:43
Speaker 1: the beads the beat off of Sydney's bracelet, and so
27:49
Speaker 1: we were all just digging and we were finding more
27:51
Speaker 1: and more. She hadn't said, well bracelet, as we seen
27:54
Speaker 1: in the video. We did have a small camera at
27:58
Speaker 1: her brother's house. She at my house at twelve, and
28:01
Speaker 1: then she stopped by his house around one thirty where
28:04
Speaker 1: she was leaving something from the vacation. So we did
28:07
Speaker 1: have a picture of her at that time and probably
28:11
Speaker 1: the last time take us in another car and putting
28:14
Speaker 1: on his porch. But I was on the search, on
28:18
Speaker 1: my hands and knees as everyone else come across the beach,
28:21
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, some of her best friend
28:25
Speaker 1: came up to me and her dad and her brother,
28:28
Speaker 1: and I was like, mom, you gotta go, and I'm like, no, no,
28:31
Speaker 1: I found something. There's something here. These are clothes. We
28:34
Speaker 1: got to mark them when we was marking them with rocks,
28:37
Speaker 1: and they said, no, you gotta go. Now that seemed
28:41
Speaker 1: a little strange to me, but I went ahead and
28:43
Speaker 1: I got in the side aside and I went to
28:45
Speaker 1: the house and they told me that I need to
28:48
Speaker 1: go on in the house. So I saw. So we
28:50
Speaker 1: went in the house. I'm my best friends and everything,
28:54
Speaker 1: and at that time they come in and said, we
28:57
Speaker 1: found the body crime stories with Nancy Grace miss Sel
29:17
Speaker 1: And what went through your mind? First of all, when
29:20
Speaker 1: you found that bead off her bracelet, I knew that
29:26
Speaker 1: at that point that Sydney was there. And then it
29:30
Speaker 1: was going through my head someone has taken her because
29:34
Speaker 1: it looks like the way the beads it wasn't all
29:38
Speaker 1: the races, probably one or two, and I was like,
29:41
Speaker 1: someone has taken her and pulled on her arm or
29:44
Speaker 1: something for the beads to come off like that. And
29:48
Speaker 1: this is just like five yards from where the phone
29:52
Speaker 1: was found. Um so, I mean it was packed down,
29:57
Speaker 1: everybody been searching and it's right by Rice phil So
30:01
Speaker 1: in my mind, if I would go back and think.
30:03
Speaker 1: And I was talking to my friends, I was like,
30:05
Speaker 1: you know, right here, someone grabbed her arm or something.
30:07
Speaker 1: Someone tried to take her and it looked like she
30:10
Speaker 1: was headed maybe to try to hit that rice field
30:12
Speaker 1: to run from them, because it was right aside the
30:15
Speaker 1: rice field that the phone was and where I found
30:19
Speaker 1: the beads at When you were told that you had
30:22
Speaker 1: to go, what went through your mind? I was very
30:27
Speaker 1: upset and angry. I was like, no, I've got going.
30:30
Speaker 1: I found evidence. I stayed. You know, I'm not leaving.
30:35
Speaker 1: This is Sydney chere somewhere I found something, and very emotional,
30:41
Speaker 1: very emotional, but you know that's my son. And what
30:47
Speaker 1: did you have an idea about why you had to
30:51
Speaker 1: leave the scene of the beads? They did not, because
30:53
Speaker 1: I kept saying, why do I have to leave? You know,
30:56
Speaker 1: I got to stay here or finding stuff? I can't
30:58
Speaker 1: leave this. You know, about the time of the state
31:02
Speaker 1: police and stuff pulled up in there and they're like,
31:04
Speaker 1: go ahead, we've got this, we're looking at it. You
31:06
Speaker 1: go on with them. So then we went to the
31:10
Speaker 1: house to Sam Sutherland. This is Sydney's brother, very very
31:15
Speaker 1: close Sam were you on the scene searching as well, Yes, ma'am.
31:20
Speaker 1: I was actually the one told my mother to go
31:23
Speaker 1: on to the house because we had I think it
31:27
Speaker 1: was yes, Marshall ticks adjust and let us know they's
31:30
Speaker 1: sound the body that day and uh. And it actually
31:35
Speaker 1: about five minutes after I had my mom go to
31:39
Speaker 1: the house, the share of David Lucas picked me up
31:44
Speaker 1: and he took me to the house where my mother was,
31:51
Speaker 1: and so on the way there he kind of give
31:54
Speaker 1: me the rundown. Sam. When you were out there and
32:00
Speaker 1: and your mom found that bead? What went through your mind? Well,
32:05
Speaker 1: that's why I knew there was some type of struggle
32:08
Speaker 1: there is what what we you know? We knew some
32:12
Speaker 1: kind of struggle went on that at that one place.
32:15
Speaker 1: Who found the strength to tell miss Sutherland? Uh? The sheriff,
32:22
Speaker 1: David Lucas. Did did you know inside that Sydney was
32:26
Speaker 1: dead before they called you? Did you since that that day?
32:32
Speaker 1: I did? I did, yes, man, Maggie. And in your heart,
32:38
Speaker 1: did you already believe Sydney had passed on? Or were
32:42
Speaker 1: you hanging onto the fact you could find her if
32:44
Speaker 1: you could just go fast enough. No, my untold time
32:48
Speaker 1: was I was hanging on and I was like, now
32:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find her. She's here, She's here somewhere because
32:56
Speaker 1: here's her bead. She's somewhere close. Um. But we have
33:00
Speaker 1: been searching since that the day before, I would say
33:04
Speaker 1: about five thirty when everybody started. My boys, their best friends,
33:08
Speaker 1: stayed at all that long walking that road. We just
33:13
Speaker 1: all had the feeling there was something about that road
33:15
Speaker 1: she was on running and they shade up. But no,
33:19
Speaker 1: I never gave up on her. You know, I was
33:23
Speaker 1: not going to give up on her. But no, I
33:26
Speaker 1: had no ideal and I did not have no idea
33:28
Speaker 1: why they were making me go to the house. You know,
33:33
Speaker 1: take a list of our friend Journey Taylor A Kai
33:36
Speaker 1: t Eight. Court documents are the first hand looking disturbing actions.
33:40
Speaker 1: Investigators say Llewellen took this past summer. Now one of
33:44
Speaker 1: the newest details how we'd searched on his phone need
33:47
Speaker 1: evidence in the murder case. Police say they found that
33:50
Speaker 1: about an hour after City Southerland disappeared, he was about
33:53
Speaker 1: two point three miles from where her phone was found.
33:56
Speaker 1: But that location Llewellen was at is actually just yours
33:59
Speaker 1: from where it's where He's found Sutherland's body on August
34:02
Speaker 1: twenty first, three days after her disappearance. In an interview
34:05
Speaker 1: with investigators, Luellan admitted to hitting Sutherland with his truck.
34:09
Speaker 1: He said he then loaded her up into his pickup
34:11
Speaker 1: and took her to an area that investigators stay was
34:14
Speaker 1: a reference on the phone's location services. Arkansas State Police
34:17
Speaker 1: said he then raped and buried her. He's currently being
34:20
Speaker 1: held with Albon. Let me understand to Miss Sutherland, this person,
34:27
Speaker 1: Quake lleu Allen hit Sydney with his car. Yes he did.
34:34
Speaker 1: He We don't know all the situation or anything, but
34:38
Speaker 1: we do know that he passed her. The UPS truck
34:45
Speaker 1: was going down the road and she remembers seeing Sydney
34:48
Speaker 1: because she said, I've seen her running to us. Slow
34:50
Speaker 1: down because of the dust route. It was a very
34:52
Speaker 1: dusty day, no rain around here, so it was really dry.
34:55
Speaker 1: So she goes, delivers her package, comes back by six
34:58
Speaker 1: Sydney again still run and she blogs then again to
35:02
Speaker 1: death draw off as Sydney, you know, stays on the
35:04
Speaker 1: side and she said, I just glanced back. I have
35:08
Speaker 1: seen Sydney still running, you know. So it was a
35:11
Speaker 1: lady UPS and they do have times like when she
35:14
Speaker 1: turns off on the main road to that dirt road
35:17
Speaker 1: and everything. So she had her time on there and everything,
35:20
Speaker 1: and she said, I remember passing one vehicle in there,
35:23
Speaker 1: but I can tell you now, I just I couldn't
35:26
Speaker 1: even tell you color or make or anything that I
35:28
Speaker 1: did pass someone too, Miss McCoy k r K four.
35:32
Speaker 1: Who is this quake? Llewellen well Quake Luellen is twenty
35:36
Speaker 1: eight year old. He is a farmer just north of Newport,
35:43
Speaker 1: which is the city hub of Jackson County. We know
35:48
Speaker 1: that he is apparently graduated with Sydney from the high
35:54
Speaker 1: school and according to some court after Davits, they were
35:59
Speaker 1: at some point friend on Facebook, but it alludes to
36:02
Speaker 1: them not being friends on Facebook. I guess when this
36:06
Speaker 1: August nineteenth day came to Greg Smiths joining me special
36:12
Speaker 1: Deputy Sheriff Johnson County, who lost his daughter Kelsey to
36:16
Speaker 1: violent crime. When you look back, do you ever wonder
36:21
Speaker 1: why Kelsey? Why did it have to be Kelsey? Here
36:24
Speaker 1: we're seeing quite Llewellen kind of new Sydney through school.
36:28
Speaker 1: We don't know the extent of what he felt for her.
36:32
Speaker 1: She did not have any romantic intentions toward him whatsoever.
36:37
Speaker 1: But when you look back, it's hard to unravel it. Why,
36:43
Speaker 1: How did it was this person targeted? It doesn't make sense. Well,
36:48
Speaker 1: that's the hardest part about having a family member that's
36:52
Speaker 1: a victim of botle of crime. Chances are you will
36:55
Speaker 1: never find out the why. You'll know the who, the what,
36:58
Speaker 1: the whin the where, but why never comes out? And um,
37:05
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the hardest part. Why was it Kelsey?
37:07
Speaker 1: I mean her killer? They had no contact at all,
37:11
Speaker 1: It was just a random encounter, um, and you know
37:15
Speaker 1: where he picked her out for whatever reason it was.
37:19
Speaker 1: Even when he alocuted, he never really got specific on
37:23
Speaker 1: on why Kelsey was the victim that he chose. So
37:28
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to the family. I know what
37:31
Speaker 1: you're feeling. Um, it's a tough thing to go through,
37:35
Speaker 1: and you have my prayers. Sam Sutherland, I don't know
37:39
Speaker 1: if you and your mom can't comment on this, but
37:43
Speaker 1: did did did she know Quake Llewellen? I mean if
37:48
Speaker 1: they went to school together and they had been Facebook friends,
37:51
Speaker 1: do you think she's slowed down when she saw him?
37:56
Speaker 1: She wouldn't, she wouldn't be scared of me, but no
37:59
Speaker 1: means you know, right, for instance, if he would have
38:01
Speaker 1: stopped the truck, I think she would have talked to him.
38:03
Speaker 1: But they they they went out and they ate together
38:06
Speaker 1: like with a group of friends from what from what
38:09
Speaker 1: we hear years ago and uh, and so they knew
38:13
Speaker 1: each other, but they they'd never talked to each other.
38:16
Speaker 1: So if he pulled up beside her, she would probably
38:19
Speaker 1: have slowed down or maybe even stopped. If he stopped
38:22
Speaker 1: to talk. I wonder to this day, I wonder if
38:25
Speaker 1: he said, hey, you want to get in the truck,
38:27
Speaker 1: and she said no, started running, so he ran over her.
38:30
Speaker 1: We to our understanding, her on the county road or
38:36
Speaker 1: there's an overpassed crossing h the interstate there and to
38:41
Speaker 1: our understanding, as he went to the other side of
38:43
Speaker 1: the overpass, turned around and came back. And we don't
38:47
Speaker 1: know if he attempted to talk to her. We don't
38:50
Speaker 1: know in old details like that, We don't know if
38:54
Speaker 1: he stopped and talked and she didn't, you know, wouldn't
38:57
Speaker 1: respond to him, or felt threatened. We don't know. We
38:59
Speaker 1: don't have no idea on that. But can I jump
39:03
Speaker 1: in here? Yeah, And just a kind of piggyback off
39:05
Speaker 1: the family. You know. I was talking a little bit
39:08
Speaker 1: about Sydney and being known around town, the sheriff, the prosecutor.
39:13
Speaker 1: The sheriff and the prosecutor also no Quake Lwlland in
39:17
Speaker 1: his family. I mean, that's how small of a town
39:20
Speaker 1: this is. Everyone knows each other. I would like to
39:23
Speaker 1: add up on Wednesday night, the mats you went missing,
39:27
Speaker 1: the upswever was the only one that's seen her. I've
39:31
Speaker 1: got a call. We're close. We was close friends with
39:34
Speaker 1: the ruell And family. Every year after we got down
39:37
Speaker 1: on harvest, we'd always go help them finish their harvest step.
39:40
Speaker 1: And on Wednesday night, about roughly uh seven thirty eight,
39:47
Speaker 1: we got I got a phone call from Michael Ellen,
39:49
Speaker 1: which is Quake's father, and he told me that quite
39:55
Speaker 1: seeing her around three thirty that day jogging and he
40:00
Speaker 1: passed her and went on to chape As Welles and
40:02
Speaker 1: came back and she was no longer there. So we
40:06
Speaker 1: did know. The Sheriff's office knew, so we knew the
40:10
Speaker 1: upas Driver senior and that quite Louellen Senior. The same day, Nancy,
40:15
Speaker 1: this is Wendy. This is a great example of how
40:18
Speaker 1: when someone goes missing, regarding a timeline, the police look
40:21
Speaker 1: at who's close to her, both relationally and geographically, especially
40:26
Speaker 1: in a small town where those that saw her last
40:30
Speaker 1: and those that were in that immediate vicinity immediately become
40:33
Speaker 1: either witnesses or suspects. And this case appears to be
40:36
Speaker 1: a perfect illustration of how that happened. So let me
40:40
Speaker 1: understand something, Maggie, miss Sutherland quite Llewellen actually jumped on
40:47
Speaker 1: the bandwagon and tried to act normal and told his dad, oh, yeah,
40:51
Speaker 1: I saw at three thirty. Yes, yes, now he did
40:58
Speaker 1: because he he asked him because they had a rice
41:03
Speaker 1: well back there. He was supposed to go be checking
41:06
Speaker 1: and so he told his dad that was around the
41:08
Speaker 1: time he had been back there, and he did see her.
41:11
Speaker 1: He even told me he's seen her. I spoke with
41:14
Speaker 1: him on Thursday. He came up to the like the
41:18
Speaker 1: headquarters where we were set up at the house. He
41:22
Speaker 1: just walked up, standing up against a tree and I
41:25
Speaker 1: was sitting there with some friends and I like, I'm
41:29
Speaker 1: gonna walk over there, and they're like, no, don't do that,
41:31
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, y'all can go with me
41:32
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I'm walking over there. I want to
41:34
Speaker 1: know where he's seen her exactly and what she was doing.
41:38
Speaker 1: So I walk over to him. He's standing up against tree,
41:41
Speaker 1: just calm like, searching the area around, just looking throughing nothing.
41:46
Speaker 1: And I said, Quake, what can you tell me about
41:48
Speaker 1: Sydney yesterday? I know you've seen her, and well, I mean,
41:52
Speaker 1: where was she running at? What could you give me
41:56
Speaker 1: any details? We're exactly on the road. Did you see
41:58
Speaker 1: her running? And he goes, yeah, I think you're running.
42:01
Speaker 1: That's odd and that's just running. That's all. He was
42:05
Speaker 1: as calm could be and everything. And then he had me,
42:08
Speaker 1: and I was like, if you can think of anything.
42:10
Speaker 1: He hugged you. He hugged you, Yes, ma'am. Reminds me
42:15
Speaker 1: of Judas and the Kiss had the Last Supper. He
42:19
Speaker 1: hugged you. Yes. I was very upset, so you know,
42:25
Speaker 1: I had probably was crying a little bit because it's
42:28
Speaker 1: really easy for me to be upset, you know, Karen
42:31
Speaker 1: Start New York Psychologists. You remember how Scott Peterson we
42:34
Speaker 1: go back and back and back and look out over
42:37
Speaker 1: San Francisco Bay. Here you got this guy twenty eight
42:40
Speaker 1: years old, Quake Llewell and goes to the search headquarters
42:46
Speaker 1: lies to City Sutherland's mother and hugs her, acting cool
42:51
Speaker 1: and calm as a cucumber. Well, that doesn't surprise either
42:55
Speaker 1: one of us, doesn't, Nancy, because very often the person
42:59
Speaker 1: who as the killer goes back to the seat at
43:01
Speaker 1: the crime, and they're doing that because they want to
43:05
Speaker 1: relive it, not because they're feeling emotional or remorse or
43:09
Speaker 1: any kind of regret. I think he was trying to
43:11
Speaker 1: find out what was going on with the search and
43:13
Speaker 1: the investigation. Karen's dark Well, probably that's a part of it.
43:17
Speaker 1: But I think, also, Nancy, that he enjoyed the fact
43:21
Speaker 1: that he knew something that other people didn't know. And
43:24
Speaker 1: I also wondered they went to school together, they were
43:28
Speaker 1: Facebook friends then not Facebook friends, and I suspect that
43:33
Speaker 1: he had a feeling about her, that he wanted her
43:36
Speaker 1: from the time they were in school. That you think
43:39
Speaker 1: that could be true, Sam souther One, I'm unsure that.
43:43
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't know how he felt towards
43:46
Speaker 1: her or nothing. I don't I don't I don't know anything.
43:49
Speaker 1: I just know that we had friends say that they
43:52
Speaker 1: they hung out in the same group at least once,
43:56
Speaker 1: and also on the third party. He also Sydney's boyfriend Alex.
44:01
Speaker 1: He also walked up to Alex and told Alex if
44:05
Speaker 1: anything he needed at all, anything he could do to
44:08
Speaker 1: let him know, and he give Alex a hug too.
44:10
Speaker 1: So I mean he was going around, you know, huggan
44:13
Speaker 1: doing a lot of hugging, a lot of hugging. Mitch McCoy,
44:17
Speaker 1: k Ark four is the prosecutor genesee the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: It's on the table. That's what the prosecutor told us.
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Speaker 1: On the table. Well that you know what, I know,
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Speaker 1: you're reporting correctly, Mitch McCoy, you have an excellent reputation. KRK.
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Speaker 1: It's not you, You're just the messenger. But on the table,
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? That means nothing to me. On
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Speaker 1: the table, that's like putting a fork in a napkin
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Speaker 1: on the table. You could take it off whenever you
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Speaker 1: feel like it. So what's happening, Maggie Sutherland? Is there
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Speaker 1: going to be a death penalty case? It's Sydney like
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Speaker 1: Gill kind of questioning his shoes friends and she knew him, uh,
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Speaker 1: but just in passing um, no communication with him, probably
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Speaker 1: in years since I've been out of school and everything
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Speaker 1: and we um grew up her dad and I grew
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Speaker 1: up in grubs with a Quakes dad. I mean all
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Speaker 1: our life. We grew ups in grubs, so we knew
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Speaker 1: them very well. Um. But right now, UM, we just
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Speaker 1: want what I want, justice for Sydney, and I will
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Speaker 1: not stop nor will my family stop until we get it.
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Speaker 1: You know, yes, Capital who you know, Capital Loga. It's
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Speaker 1: either life or death. So UM no, whatever it takes
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Speaker 1: to get justice for Sydney, that's what we're going to
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Speaker 1: take and hopefully we get that for her or we
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Speaker 1: want let's fit of this way. We're not going to
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Speaker 1: stop until we get justice for Sydney. Um, for what
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Speaker 1: he's done. Miss Sutherland, please know neither will we. We
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Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off,
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend