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3-24-26 Hour 1 - Avs & Nugs ramp up to playoffs/Mims "surprised" by Waddle trade/Landy explains his injury · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: a question about the final remaining ten games for the
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets thirteen for the Avs.
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  Speaker 3: Now, don't start counting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start counting. What do you think can happen
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  Speaker 2: between now and the end of the season to change
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  Speaker 2: your perspective on either one of these teams? Because I've
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  Speaker 2: said this before with the Broncos, people got mad at me.
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  Speaker 2: Is it stop moving the goal posts? And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I move the goalposts of expectations when they give me evidence,
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  Speaker 2: and the evidence changes my perspective on what I think
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  Speaker 2: these teams can do. Can these teams change your minds
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  Speaker 2: at all for where they are now to where they
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  Speaker 2: will be when the postseason starts, either one of them?
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  Speaker 1: That's a great question. Let's start with the Avs. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen the Avs for the bulk of the season when
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  Speaker 1: they're at their best, and we've seen what they can
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  Speaker 1: do if they somehow stumble into the postseason and lose hold,
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  Speaker 1: lose grip of the top seed. Yeah, I could have
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  Speaker 1: an impact on what you'd think of them that sure, Sure,
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  Speaker 1: I really just to back you up, Vick to me,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the only scenario where my mind would
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  Speaker 1: change for either one of these teams. Yeah. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure what the Nuggets can do at this point. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even if they win let's say they win all ten
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  Speaker 1: remaining games the Cynic and you might say, well, the
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  Speaker 1: schedule is not as tough, and the games that they've played,
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  Speaker 1: and you know they're playing in San Antonio and OKC.
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  Speaker 1: When those teams have nothing to play for, so there's
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  Speaker 1: always that's always gonna come up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if the Nuggets can do anything.
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  Speaker 2: And here's what's interesting in motion, how me you feel
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  Speaker 2: on this, Like when you hit the postseason. I look
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  Speaker 2: back at last year that Nuggets and Thunder series. They
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  Speaker 2: had no business being in that series. They really didn't.
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  Speaker 2: They had no depth on that team. The one guy
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  Speaker 2: you did trust off the bench was an absolute wild
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  Speaker 2: card in Russell Westbrook. Never knew what you're gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: And the team itself, the core of it was a
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  Speaker 2: ripped apart hamstring, a shoulder that didn't work, a broken hand,
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  Speaker 2: like all these different things. They had no business being
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  Speaker 2: in that series last year, and they were. And so
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, could they compete in the play? They could,
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just I haven't been given they could yet.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been given a lot of reasons to believe
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  Speaker 2: that this team can hang with the Spurs and the
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  Speaker 2: Thunder this year.
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  Speaker 3: That's a that's a great point, Brett.
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  Speaker 4: I guess maybe everybody has their own thing that they see. Ah,
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  Speaker 4: I believe this team can compete now, oh they did this.
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  Speaker 4: I believe this team can't compete. Some people are just
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  Speaker 4: blind to it. Some fans are just you know what
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna get in there, They're Google get it done.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, nah, I can't look at it that way, brother, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but they're You hope, at least for me, I hope
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  Speaker 4: that vic something happens. I visualize something again. When I
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  Speaker 4: looked at that box score yesterday after the the game
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  Speaker 4: against Portland, I'm like, that's what I want the box
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  Speaker 4: score to look like on a good day. That's ideally
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  Speaker 4: how it should look. So maybe people build into it,
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's one thing that triggers them.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I think, I think things can change.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, if you if you guys had to guess right now,
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets season finishes where from what you've seen from
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  Speaker 2: them so far, they their season ends when.
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  Speaker 1: It ends with the four seed, because I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they're catching the Lakers.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm saying into the postseason, Like, where do
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  Speaker 2: you think there's the season ends like the second second,
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  Speaker 2: second round. That's kind of where I'm at to now.
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  Speaker 4: That can change. That can change. Let's say they they
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  Speaker 4: smoke Houston in the first round. You know, whether they
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  Speaker 4: say they win in five I met, Yeah, I can.
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  Speaker 4: It can be pliable, because then I may say, well,
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  Speaker 4: they can win the whole damn thing.
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  Speaker 1: It just depends, well, you're gonna play the Okay scene
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  Speaker 1: in the second round. That that's where there's that's where
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  Speaker 1: they're going. Listen. As much as it was nice to
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  Speaker 1: see the Lakers lose last night, the Lakers lost late
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  Speaker 1: to Detroit, snapped their nine game win streak Lakers hits hot.
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  Speaker 2: You know this is Piston's winning without Caid.
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  Speaker 1: I know. You know they're nine and two without kid. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're nine and two without them. So the Nuggets are
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  Speaker 1: now within two games, but they lost the tiebreaker with
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  Speaker 1: that dreadful loss in La a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: So now they would have to lose three more times
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  Speaker 1: in the last ten games. The Lakers and the Nuggets
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  Speaker 1: would have to finish the season perfect. Let's asking a lot, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: let's asking a lot. Three more losses for the Lakers,
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  Speaker 1: perfect finish for the Nuggets to move into the three seed.
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  Speaker 1: So you are going to play Oklahoma City in the
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  Speaker 1: second round unless you dropped to.
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  Speaker 2: The sixth seed, which I want to save that for
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  Speaker 2: a second, because the Morning Sprint talked about this, They
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  Speaker 2: commented on our comments yesterday, I have who you want
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  Speaker 2: to face and win when the postseason starts. But just
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  Speaker 2: to jump over to the abs mos, I asked the
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  Speaker 2: same question right now, where do you feel like their
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  Speaker 2: season ends?
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  Speaker 3: Cup championship?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I think that's it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't anything. Well, here's the thing, how
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  Speaker 4: do you categorize disappointment?
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  Speaker 3: Boys?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think anything short of a Cup championship.
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  Speaker 4: You're disappointed because you have a team that can make.
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  Speaker 1: A winning championship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, because crazy things happen. Guys.
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  Speaker 4: You can have the best team in the world and
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  Speaker 4: bad things happen. Pucks bounce weirdly, colies get hot, I mean, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: a pluth ther of things. A lot has to go right,
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  Speaker 4: even for the best teams to win. That being said,
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  Speaker 4: anything short of that, man, is a total bummer for
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  Speaker 4: this Avalanche team. And then to the Denver Nuggets, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if they don't win a championship, I think it's a bummer.
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  Speaker 3: But as if I sit right now, I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't expect them to.
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  Speaker 1: Total They ask you as this because for the bulk
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  Speaker 1: of the season, go back to October November, we had
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  Speaker 1: both of these teams pretty much at the same pace, right,
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  Speaker 1: championship material. When the season started, we looked at the
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  Speaker 1: Nuggets roster and said, this is the best roster they've
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  Speaker 1: had in franchise history. Yeah, championship material. Same with the Avs.
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  Speaker 1: Look at what they've done at the roster. When did
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  Speaker 1: this displacement occur?
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, yeah, when Yokids return to the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: That freaked me out. When they were playing okay basketball
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  Speaker 2: missing all those starters, I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I still believe in this. They'll get the starters back,
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  Speaker 2: and it looked great. And then the starters came back
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  Speaker 2: and they lost a lot, and that weirded me out
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  Speaker 2: to the point to where like it shifted expectations a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen and twelve in their last twenty five games, five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to do with that other
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  Speaker 2: than think that this doesn't look right, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Because I was I'm telling you they we
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  Speaker 2: we talked about this when they had the injuries, and
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  Speaker 2: you said, do you still You asked the question, do
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  Speaker 2: you still feel the same? I go, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: I do. Like I was, I was impressed with the
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  Speaker 2: way that they played in that stretch. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is a testament now good this team is that
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  Speaker 2: all these guys are missing and they're still floating around
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  Speaker 2: five hundred. And then they came back and they kept
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  Speaker 2: being five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The beauty of this is all it takes is
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  Speaker 1: one massive ups and I'm not sure it's even massive
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  Speaker 1: because they've played Oklahoma City three times. Two of those
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  Speaker 1: games could have easily gone to the Nuggets easily.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All it takes is one upset, one of those games
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  Speaker 1: for you to change your mind, for us to change
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  Speaker 1: your mind. That's all it takes.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you know, Vick, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know when I'll switch or if I'll switch
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  Speaker 4: to Yeah, Nuggets can win it all mode.
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  Speaker 3: How about this. I'll promise you this when when I.
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  Speaker 4: See it, if they get there to that particular moment
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, I will let you know. I'll let everybody
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  Speaker 4: on this program know. But I'm not there yet. It
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  Speaker 4: might be a single moment, it might be just an epiphany.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, it might not be anything at all.
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  Speaker 4: They may never get there for me, but I'll let
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  Speaker 4: you know if and when we ever get there.
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  Speaker 3: The things that.
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  Speaker 2: They struggle with, though, are the things that I think
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  Speaker 2: are most important when the postseason comes along, and when
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  Speaker 2: they've struggled in crunch time this year. It's hard for
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  Speaker 2: me to just see that do a one point eighty
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  Speaker 2: the second games get close. Now again, the beauty of
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  Speaker 2: what they have and the reason why there still should
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit of hope here is that this
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  Speaker 2: isn't a group that's new to this. They know what
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  Speaker 2: the postseason is, they know the pressure, they know the
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  Speaker 2: the weight that's gonna be on their shoulders late in games,
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  Speaker 2: like they've done that a million times now, so like
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  Speaker 2: they could easily go right back in the forming moments
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  Speaker 2: like that. Maybe it's a level of care during the
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  Speaker 2: regular season. I don't know. I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just it's hard for me to see it
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  Speaker 2: right now. That's all, and go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Ye, the Avs are are at a spot now where
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  Speaker 1: they can afford to have a couple of hiccups. They
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  Speaker 1: can have hiccups the Nuggets. If they continue to have hiccups.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're like, all right, what is it, Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to the playoffs. That looks like a team that just
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  Speaker 1: wants to get to the playoffs. Yes, yeah, right, they
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  Speaker 1: just want to get You.
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  Speaker 4: Ever see the story you ever see the story of
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  Speaker 4: that guy who had hiccups for like forty years and
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  Speaker 4: they couldn't cure him.
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  Speaker 2: I actually did see that. Yeah, yeah, that sounds miserable.
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  Speaker 4: You talk about, dude, I don't know I'd find a pistol.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I don't like I couldn't handle that, man.
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  Speaker 1: Denver, I don't know what else i'd do.
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  Speaker 3: I'd drum myself crazy. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: That's tough call in the hockey game, if you have
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  Speaker 1: hiccups the entire game. Denver Jayhawk on the twitch feed says,
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  Speaker 1: how about the report that the Nuggets are concerned the
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  Speaker 1: way Djokjok is being guarded and not being able to adjust?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I think it was Mark Spears who
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  Speaker 1: had that. I'm not sure it's a report. It's an
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  Speaker 1: observation that a lot of people have had that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the Nuggets aren't sitting there clamoring
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  Speaker 1: to the league about this. It's just something that they
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  Speaker 1: have to fix. And if you haven't noticed the way
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  Speaker 1: Jokers being guarded, he's with the small and they're just
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  Speaker 1: pestering him the entire time. You're going to see it
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  Speaker 1: again tonight in Phoenix. Guess what when they go to
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  Speaker 1: Phoenix tonight, Mark William's probably out for the Suns. You're
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna see it again tonight. And what the Nuggets
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  Speaker 1: do to counter that, that's on them. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what you do.
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  Speaker 2: I read that report a little bit different that quote
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  Speaker 2: report a little bit differently because I saw the same
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  Speaker 2: thing from Mark Spears. He said at the end of it,
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  Speaker 2: Jokich is still figuring it out.
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  Speaker 1: He's averaging in a triple double.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like he's not effective. I think he
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  Speaker 2: was just saying like it has become very annoying to
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  Speaker 2: them because they don't feel like they're getting officiated equally
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  Speaker 2: on both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you what needs to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I've had some discussions with guys close to the team.
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  Speaker 1: The Denver Nuggets have to figure this out, and it's
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  Speaker 1: very important. Pay attention. Mark, You're not paying attention every
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  Speaker 1: time down the court. The Nuggets offense starts with the
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  Speaker 1: pass to Joker, and then they do their thing right.
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  Speaker 1: It starts with the pass to Joker. Joker sort of
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  Speaker 1: assesses the court. What teams are doing. They're trying to
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  Speaker 1: eliminate that entry pass to Joker. They're trying to make
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  Speaker 1: it hard on him to do his thing. What the
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  Speaker 1: Nuggets need to learn how to do. If they're going
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  Speaker 1: to devote the opposition to people to Joker, if they're
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  Speaker 1: going to make it hard on him to catch that
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  Speaker 1: entry pass, they got to figure out how to run
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  Speaker 1: their offense without going that way. Just do something else.
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  Speaker 1: He's been clogged, he's being attacked. All right, he's got
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  Speaker 1: two chihuahua's on him. Let's try something else. They're just
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  Speaker 1: so accustomed to every single play going through Joker, going
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  Speaker 1: through Joker, going through Joker. Sometimes it's an you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to try something else instead of that little easy
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  Speaker 1: bounce pass or that little pass over the top, Try
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  Speaker 1: something else.
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  Speaker 2: I thought about this over the weekend. Motion I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to watch these tournament games, sitting on my couch and
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  Speaker 2: baby Jamal kle is going through a sugar high and
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  Speaker 2: she is sprinting on the couch, jumping on me, crashing
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  Speaker 2: into me, all this different stuff, and I thought, this
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  Speaker 2: is Jokicchen the paint, no rest is gonna call a
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  Speaker 2: foul baby, Jamal Kele doing this. It's not hurting me,
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  Speaker 2: but it is annoying, right, and it's it's affecting me
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  Speaker 2: my focus.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you guys know what I mean by the yeah, Vick, Vick,
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  Speaker 4: I know exactly what you mean. I guess my question
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  Speaker 4: to you is when did this start? Did it start
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  Speaker 4: with Caruso? Yes, last series?
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  Speaker 1: It starts. No, it's starts the the the roots of
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  Speaker 1: this started with the Lakers game a year ago. When
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  Speaker 1: the Lakers came to town and they played. I forgot
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  Speaker 1: who they put on Joker. They went very ultra small.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he was Ruey, I can't remember. They put somebody
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  Speaker 1: small on him. They fronted him. They made him hard
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  Speaker 1: for him to catch the ball. You've got to find
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  Speaker 1: alternate ways to get your offense started.
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  Speaker 3: Crucial though, can we all agree he got up in there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And once he got up in there, it's like everybody
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  Speaker 4: rented out that apartment on Joker.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's been up there.
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  Speaker 1: In most Not only does it doesn't make it hard,
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  Speaker 1: but it takes time. You know, Jokers twenty feet away
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  Speaker 1: from the basket, the shot clock's winding down, you're just
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  Speaker 1: trying to get him the ball. By the time you
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  Speaker 1: get the ball to him, shot clocks down to twelve.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, they got to go Okay, this team
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  Speaker 1: is going crazy on Joker right now. They're trying to
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  Speaker 1: let's option B. Let's try something else, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what that is. I'm I'm not a coach.
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  Speaker 2: But again, this hour's keyword is top. I have a question,
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  Speaker 2: and I know we've been harping on this a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but I do find this really interesting, especially because you
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  Speaker 2: had the chance to talk to the man Dick in
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  Speaker 2: regards to mimes and what his role is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: in the offense, and you know you asked him about
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  Speaker 2: it before the Nuggets came. If you guys missed it,
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  Speaker 2: here's a little bit of what that sounded like.
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  Speaker 1: The good news is Bo's gonna come back healthy. The
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  Speaker 1: majority of your team's gonna come back. The Broncos just
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  Speaker 1: signed Jalen Waddle and we were talking before this you
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  Speaker 1: can never have enough talent on the team. How did
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  Speaker 1: you react when you saw that trade?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I think it really surprised me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just bringing in a guy like that. But I mean
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  Speaker 5: if you look at his I mean his career ever
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  Speaker 5: since high school to college and now, I mean he's
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  Speaker 5: just an explosive playmaker, and I think offensively, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he always need more playmakers. I think it'll be a
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  Speaker 5: really fun to watch. So we'll just see how it
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: all comes out this season.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Do you ask yourself, what does that mean for me
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: since you guys are essentially the same type of player.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: You know, it's just interesting to see how I fit
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: in in the offense by the end of the day.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: You know, just for me the past few years, I mean,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: the thing I've taken pride in has been able to
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: play running back, you know, be a returner, be a receiver.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: So anyway I can affect the game, you know, I'm
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: happy to go out there.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: And do it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, the first thing I heard when you
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: said it surprised me. I don't think he was surprised
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: at the idea that they brought in another playmaker and offense.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I think the entire team kind of understood that was
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: going to be a goal of the franchise, franchise of
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: this offseason. He was surprised that it was him, Like
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: that guy a small guy. Yes, No, that's what surprised him.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: If it were a J. Brown, we'd be like, oh, okay,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: big dude, I get it. I got you.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: He was surprised that the guy was five ft ten
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And so here's what I got thinking about. And this
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: is what sucks for him. You talk to him, Vick.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: He seems like a very nice guy, very much a
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: team guy, like not gonna raise a stink. But this
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: isn't a prediction. It's something that I'm gonna monitor if
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: they head into training camp and we're getting close like
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that first preseason game, and the majority of Marvin Mims
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: reps are coming with the second team. Because here's what
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton's never done before. John Payton has never carried
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: six receivers into a season. It's always been five. So
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: let's count him up, Sutton, Waddle, Bryant, Franklin, Mims, Humphrey
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: at six.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: And that's before you bring in the other guys to
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: kick your Michael Bandi's and your guys like this. What
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: about those kind of guys.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Oh exactly, they're gonna be there. But here's the point.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: You could bring six if you justify one of them,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: well he's a return specialist, Well that'd be Mims. The
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: problem is this, Mims is entering what a contract, year year,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: four year. There's not many guys if they don't get
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: paid after that first contract that find big money later
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: in their career. And I'm sure he's thinking to himself,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: if I don't get featured in the offense this year,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: when do I get to make my money?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: When do I get paid? And I'm just thinking, if
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: it's trending in a direction towards the end of camp
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: or he's not looking like he's gonna get a lot
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: of targets. Does he go to the front office and
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: be like, dude, if you aren't going to use me,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I went out?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: No, okay, he is the last thing, the last person
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: who would pull the diva move that you just anticipated.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: He's not. He's the furthest thing from a diva.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Would that be being a diva? That's not I'm not
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: getting enough targets. That's I'm not playing. I don't know
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: if that's.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Deva that's that's a that's a Hey, look I I'm
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: not going to have a future here.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I'd like to have a talent someplace.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Talent is found. Listen to me. Listen. You don't think
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: there are other teams that would make use of his talents?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You don't think he's got stuff.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the idea is, look, look,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: you go and you sign if you're done with him.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: If you're done, let's say you play this year. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: think you're right, Vick, you won't make a stake.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: You play this year, but you go ufa sign a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: one year with somebody, play your butt off and get
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: a play new bag.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I think he's the kind of guy that's not going
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to rock the boat. He he doesn't come off that way.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: He does enough.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: He's already he's.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Got Pro Bowl status, he's got Hey, wasn't he in
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: All Pro as a returner?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's all pro.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, so he's got enough hattus those guys.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much those guys get paid, though.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the kicking game is becoming much more
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: important now we're seeing it the way it's unfolding. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, he's probably privately going to be upset.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Privately probably already is. But publicly, I don't think he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: gonna make a stink. I don't think he's gonna do
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: anything like that. U injuries happen, He'll get his opportunities.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Look, I don't All I'm saying is I don't think
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: that he's gonna go to the media and be like
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I want out. But he might have a private conversation
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: with George Peyton and Sean Payton, like what is my
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: use here?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Sure there's nothing wrong with that? Yeah, there's He might
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: have already had that, right, he's been in town. You
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: know a lot of guys leave town Marvin stays in town.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He trains here a lot of guys. They go to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: South Florida, they go to Arizona, they go to Cali.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: They spend their off seasons training at these complexes. He
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, what what have you been doing?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: He goes, I've been at home training. This is home.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: If it's me, I do this. I walk into the facility.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton's come. My wife say it's up, Sean. How
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: you doing anyway?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Davis? What's up? What you doing? Dude's talk you know later,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Sean Davis, what's up?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Just chewing me now?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Just doing me?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's fight.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Let's fight a little something something, you know what I mean?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Like you and me, baby dual streaks man Watt on
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: one side of me and the other Jetsman, that's what
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I'd be doing. Find me a role where I can
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: be happy. And I think he wants to be a
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Denver Broncoln. I'm sure he does. But man, I I
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: want to see him utilized as much as he wants
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: to be utilized.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: So when does that happen? How does that happen? I
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: don't know?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Again, this ill informed take that he's inconsistent is something
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that I I'm single handedly trying to break that. Yeah,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he's not inconsistent. The way they use him is inconsistent.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: He had eight targets in that divisional playoff game. Eight targets,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: eight catches. He's fine, use him, see it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Actually, I think the Broncos value him more than people think.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Mems breakout ears on the way mems will be here,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: sudden can go. Okay, forget the last part of that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: There's only there's only so many. Just ignore one football.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Ignore the last part.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Jesus God.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I think the Broncos value him more than people think.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I actually agree with that take, probably not for the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: same reason as this person texted in. I think they've
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: value him as a returner way more than people realize. Like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I think that they see him as like a gem
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: in the return game, that little to no teams actually
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: have a player of that talent and that caliber in
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the return game. Now, how they value him as a receiver.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's very highly. I think they think
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: he's okay, But if they did, I mean you you
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: mentioned it, Vic. When you have a guy, if you
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: valued him really highly and he gets on the field
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and every time he gets an opportunity, he produces. That
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: guy wouldn't go back to the bench.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: He would see the disconnect.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you mentioned it. I think it's they
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: don't trust him as a blocker, and they really like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: their screen game and and all that stuff, and they
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: don't trust him.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: To block, So he may not be a good fit
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: for the style of offense you run. There are teams
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: out there. How many teams can you name where you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: take a speedster like that and put him on that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: roster and say.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Oh god, a ton But that's that's what I'm getting at.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: It's like team may might not be a fit for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the offense. Hey, guess what fit talent into your offense? Yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: find a way.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You know what, My Bunyon ain't a fit for my
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: show my shoe. I should say, I make my bunyon
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: fit into that shoe. I make it fit.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you do it? You know, you
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: know what's so crazy? Can you imagine if you had
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: to wear shoes on your hands? How weird that would be?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: With your bunyions? Like you've got you've got quad buns, bro,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: You've got you've got feet bunions and you've got thumb
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: bunions you got you're just bunioned out, brother, Yeah, I.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Mean I think the same thing.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: You're You're you're an interesting.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Cat most with your seven chins. How do you actually
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: button your top button of a dress shirt? How do
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you get?
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: That?
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Gets hard sometimes? Bro Well, I borrowed a pair of
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: pliers from the from the super here at the hotel
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: and I just grabbed that one side and they yank
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: it over as far as are cune What do you
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: like that? What happens though those collars? What happens when
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: you have to wear a turtle things where it's a
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: caller extender? Have you ever seen that the caller extenders?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Total neck that it goes like this. He looks like
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Tommy Boy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So listen, listen. On top of that, here's what's interesting.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: This is not new territory that the Broncos are going
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to be. You know, waiting the waters into the draft
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is very exciting for a whole bunch of people because
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it's a chance to get really big talent on your roster.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be boring as hell for us.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Your first pick doesn't come until the sixty second pick
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: of the draft. But here's the good news. George Peyton's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: used to this. What I gotta wait until like the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: end of the second round to make a choice. Here's
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Nick Benito. Oh, I gotta wait until the fourth round
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to make my next choice. Yeah, go ahead, throw a
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Quinn Miners in there, like he will find ways to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: make people productive. But this is kind of where George
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Payton's made his mind, to be honest with you, think
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: about all the late draft picks that he's like Jonathan
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Cooper's got thirty one career sacks as a seventh round guy.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: You know, I was did a good job he from
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the get go. He's done a pretty damn good job
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: bick of filling out through those later draft picks. You know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: boom here and a boom there, and a guy maybe
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: we're not talking you know, end of the world type
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: of players, but guys who can help, Guys who can
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: fit guy.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll give him credit. He's done a pretty
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: good job of that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about something the other day. Two more
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: years before you really have to pay bo nicks right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And who knows when they start working on that extension.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: They could be talking about it now. For all I know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so two more seasons where you're working with a rookie
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback contract. I don't understand why you wouldn't take those
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: two seasons and take all the money you have available
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and make your run now. I mean, like, what is
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the purpose of being thrifty right now? Thriftiness is something
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you do when you don't have the money because you've
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: devoted it to your franchise quarterback. When you have that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: money to spend, why not just go hog wild like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a drunken sailor right now and make your run.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Like find well, umm, like find somebody on a one
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: year deal this year or something like that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: And just make your run. This is your chance to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: make a run. You got two years before you have
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to pay that man. And let's look at the expenses.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Look at how much starting franchise quarterbacks are going for
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: right now. How much do you think bow Knicks will
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: cost in two years if he is deemed If he
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is sixty, okay, think about how much of your salary.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: No way, there's no way.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Most guys are already making sixty.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Most it's gonna be north of fifty. If he's your guy.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: If he's your guy, it's gonna be north of fifty.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You can put your hand to your head all you want.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That's the going rate. It's hard for me to rep
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: might and no offense to boat Knicks. It's just hard
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: for me to wrap my head around going rates for quarterbacks.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I know he's he's good. I think is he elite?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Is he one of the one of the dudes? Is
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he one of the guys? Is he one of the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: hey man?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe on a seconds, Hang on a second, just so
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you're aware, Dak Prescott's making sixty a year. Dak if
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the Broncos came out today and said, guy's great news.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: We signed bon Nicks to his extension already won't kick
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: in for a couple of years. But it's sixty million
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a year. Are you happy?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I take it sixty million from a deal you sign now? Yeah?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Is it going to get a hundred million dollar quarterback? Well,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: It's sorry, it's less about the money and more of
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: has bo Nicks done enough to where you think he
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: is justified? What would be like a five year extension?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, stop real quick. I understand going rate, Vick. I
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: understand that what good the going rate is It's why
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins got thirty per and that kind of started,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: and we got that ninety million dollar a year from
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: or ninety million dollar contract from Minnesota.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: How what your receiver just got yesterday?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: A receiver got? I know.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: But what I'm saying in your head, Dick Lambardi's money.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Has bon Nicks done enough to be a sixty million
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: dollars a year guy? I think it is because to me,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: because of that briefcase, I'd be just like the Blues brothers.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: That brief that briefcase would be handcuffed to my wrist.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, ask me that it would.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: It would take an act of God to unlock that
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: that briefcase and hand it over.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I would have to see another season. I need another season.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And they may already have the answer. Very fair, They
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: may already have the answer. They may already know. But
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: either you think you have your franchise quarterback or you don't.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same question, Hey, Brett, I'll ask you,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is Bonnicks your brothers franchise quarterback?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So then he's getting sixty million plus. Then then the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: answer is already yes, it's done.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But I'm I'm with you, you don't have to do
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: it now. I would wait one more year because here's
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: again here's the crazy part, and this is what you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: have to factor in. Everything's fine right now. Bon Knicks
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: tru or false? Bo Nicks won multiple games while playing poorly.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: True bon Nicks also won you a lot of games.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: He did, but he played poorly and they won games.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: What happens when you give a guy sixty million dollars
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: is well, now we can't Babe Benito and Zach Gallon
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and Malcolm Roach and DJ Jones, Answertan and this guy
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: and that guy like It becomes a lot more on
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: him to do a lot to win.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: The key question is this, do you think after two
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: seasons in the league and being an older quarterback coming
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: into the league, do you think bon Nicks will continue
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to improve or has plateaued?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: No?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I think he will improve, and that's the key. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: think helping him by getting him a weapon like Jalen
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Wattle will make even better.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Then that's the question that needs to be answered. And
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that's the tough part about assessine talent is where are
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: they right now in their arc? Are they Is this
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: what you got? Or is there more to be seen
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like I think.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: This is real.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: This is also real chicken chicken or the egg type
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: of stuff too. It's like, okay, you have this quarterback
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: and now you've got him quote a weapon, and he
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: already had good players and whatnot. You know, now, okay,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: now it's time to make some hate with this guy.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I mean it is like, you know, did Mahomes make
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: this guy or did this guy make Mahomes. I think
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Mahomes made dudes, you know what I mean? And I'd
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: like bo Nicks to make some dudes.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, can can I throw this out there in regards
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to like this hypothetical extension that he get. He's closer
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: right now to Brock Purty than he is Josh Allen. Yes,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: he's closer to the guy who's like good with good
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: pieces around him. Don't know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that either. Sure.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So it's just that's where and I think with another
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: year maybe he can announce himself from that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: You know what.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: My argument is, he beat Josh Allen. I'll play Josh Allen.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: He did that game. He did. That's that's a fact.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And anybody who looks back at me and says, uh no, no,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: don't Josh Allen. Uh huh in that playoff game, the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: better quarterback was Bo Nicks.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's in the end, inarguable, he.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Was the better quarterback in a key playoff game. He
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: did not hurt his team the way Josh Allen hurt
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: his team in that game.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Uh double dip. Tonight, Nuggets and Afs both on and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the Abs are in Pittsburgh with pregame powered by Ramos
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: lot four thirty. Oh look at that, Craig Ben Lindall
• 31:43
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I before I had this is in my brain.
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  Speaker 4: I can't get it out. What you said is true
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  Speaker 4: about the playoff game game one of the regular season
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  Speaker 4: this year. Who would you want as your starting quarterback
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  Speaker 4: at the Denver Broncos. Josh Allen or Bo.
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  Speaker 2: Nicks, you'd want Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen has clearly got a bit of resume and
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  Speaker 1: a more proven resume. Of course, I'm just giving you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving you reasons why the potential is there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in year two of the playoff game. Albeit, bow Knicks
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  Speaker 1: hasn't played in as many of those as Josh Allen has,
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  Speaker 1: and he outplayed a former MVP at the time, the
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  Speaker 1: raining MVP. That is a fact.
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  Speaker 2: Just keep this in mind, motion bo Knicks is a speciality.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see bow Knicks Allen will. Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll,
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  Speaker 3: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm sick. Did you guys see the Moses
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  Speaker 2: Moody injury from yesterday? Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: No, man, that's that's barbaric. It's the fact that I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: watched it and I kept watching it even though it
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: said watch out when you watch this is I've not
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: seen a non contact injury. And for those who don't
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: understand what we're referring to. Moses Moody of the Golden
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: State Warriors last night went up for a dunk in overtime.
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  Speaker 1: He was all by himself, non contact injury. He leaps
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, his knee literally explodes as
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: he leaps, well, he lands. He's holding his knee and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it looks completely distorted. It doesn't look like a normal
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: knee anymore.
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  Speaker 2: How does that even happen because it looks like the
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  Speaker 2: kneecap went to like the top of his leg.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know the biology. I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened inside. All I know is his
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: knee just exploded in mid air. It was, Oh, it
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  Speaker 1: feels so bad for that kid.
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  Speaker 3: Mos.
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  Speaker 2: You show be your your m one grand right, you
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  Speaker 2: know when you.
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  Speaker 3: When Grantham, what's up like the grandthum?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, when it when he does that, that was his knee.
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  Speaker 3: It popped out like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's the grossest thing you've ever seen. And I again,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the physics of it, I don't know how that happens
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: with the human body. He was not touched by anybody.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: He went to jump, that's all he did.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm going back genetics. Genetics has outdone itself again.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: These guys are so musclebound now that most you talk
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: about it all the time. Their tendons can't deal with
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: all the muscle.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: It's true. The guys today are bigger and stronger and
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: in better sheep than they ever have been. But you
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: can't the connective tissue. You can't build that up. You
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: can't the ligaments and stuff. They you know, they were
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: just connecting.
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  Speaker 3: They don't.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: You can't work on those, so can't put stress on them.
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  Speaker 4: That's what happens. It's it's just, you know, spring explodes.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: But you know, I think back to Bick when we
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: were kids, the Joe thisman injury right the compound front.
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  Speaker 1: That was a break.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: That was a break that wasn't somebody fell on them, that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Was but but we I had never seen anything like
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that before on television. It was shocking to the entire world.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: It was a don't look moment, that kind of thing.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Don't watch this replay. A lot of TV stations wouldn't
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: replay it. Nowadays, man, I can go on to my
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: phone and watch a guy get run over by a
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: bowl and his head falls off. You know, I mean
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: It's like, does anything shock anybody anymore? Doesn't explode and
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: he really shock anybody.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I saw this one, this one go.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you an honest question. Honestly, I saw.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Robin Ventura's foot go backwards. His foot literally went backwards.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Would you rather have the injury that happened to Moses
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Moody yesterday or this like ninety six male and hour
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: slapshot to the nuts and that hurt so h yeah,
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  Speaker 2: quick surgery to fix some things and where good to go?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You can take my knee.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: No, he just said to himself, quick surgery. He's back
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: in two and a half weeks.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: No scalpels around there, No scalpels.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I know you do. You're vizecting me.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Every year, Victor, I do an annual de sect me
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and it's not that bad. I've been doing it now
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  Speaker 1: for seventeen hours.
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  Speaker 3: It was not my place.
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  Speaker 4: I think everybody realized, like perhaps what happened at the
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: time I knew, but it was not my place to say,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, by the way, ninety six Mahan hour slapshot
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: to the nether region, the area of the thing with
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: the stuff and the whole I mean, the word came
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: out pretty quickly, but it was a little bit more
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: in a little surgery, a little cut, cut, snip snip.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I need I need to understand something. Hang on, hang on,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I need people to understand something. I don't think people
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: quite understand this. I played years of my life third base,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the hot corner, they call it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Played probably the most vulnerable position in sports for that
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: injury to occur.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: They call it the hot corner because you were you
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: were taking probably twice a game or catch one hundred
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: mile an hour one hopper right to your midsection, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you hope it hits you in the stomach, at the chest.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: That's what you hope. I've caught it off the cup
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: before you wear a cup. It's not like some sort
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of sheath of armor. Okay, it hurts a lot. Still,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: it doesn't just stop anything from happening, because it reverberates. Yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, man, if you move, it's not
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: like the cup is always stationary in the in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: one spot. It can shift around.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm old enough, old enough motion, and I are
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: old enough. When we played like youth football, high school football,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: high school sports, right, we wore cups. They don't wear anymore.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: In high school football. They don't.
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  Speaker 3: We wore them. That's crazy. The only people crazy that
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: they don't.
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  Speaker 2: The only people in baseball that I know wear cups
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: now are infielders and catchers. Outfielders do not. Pitchers do not.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Pitchers I have. I mean, I know it's probably uncomfortable
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to pitch every time with one of those, but still
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: we how many times? Most have you seen it was comebacker.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But it was when I was a kid in it
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: was mandatory.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Well we did cup checks. Oh yeah, we had cup
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: checks all the time.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had cup checks.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: When I started a Channel four.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And green Wood walk by then they brought it in
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: an HR department.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: They ruined everything.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: You ever get to the little I do need to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: ask you though, play in the hot corner.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: But well, Vic, Vic, do me your favor. I want
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: you to do described the quote reverberation. I want let
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: me let's let's get a little bit more of the
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: REVERBERA reverberation.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: When it hits the large item protecting the items behind
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the large item, there is a it's like an echo chamber,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: large echo. No, that's perfect, Yeah, that's exactly what that
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: echo reverberates throughout that entire area.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, So I have to ask you this Kaner when
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you play the.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Sound waves and dal Jones Nasdak.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Having said that, you guys, I mean, it's it's a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: stupid question. Would you rather have that injury or have
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: what happened to Moses Moody?
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Dude?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: What happened to Moses Moody's career threatening? His PTELL attendant exploded.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm sorry his patella exploded. He literally exploded his knee.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It's not even close. Thanks to counterpoint, he could miss
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: fourteen months.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Counterpoint, Yeah, what if Gabe one of more kids? I mean,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: it could have affected his ability to have children. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: don't know what the injury was, but it could have.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Oh you got two of them. You're fine.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: This this goes back to our discussion, the discussion I
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: had with him a week and a half ago in
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: the hallway about INTACTNUS and lack of intagnists and pretty
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: much INTACTNIS and that sort of thing.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not even talk about. It is going to.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Be the kids business right now. You can't even move, dude.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Somebody text it in. It's like hitting a gong. It's
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: exactly what it's like, actually exactly what.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So more about when you played the hot corner, because
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: when I played baseball, you know the fields. We played
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a rocky mountain park, and you never knew what the
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: hell was in front of you. When you're playing the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: infield right. There could be a rock, there could be
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a turtle, there could be any object in the world
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: in front of you, and you get weird bounces. Did
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you ever take take one off the face?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Not directly to the face. I've taken a few, like
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: off my hand, but at least there's a little bit
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: of padding on there, so it wasn't as bad.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a player take one directly off
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the face?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I saw. We were playing Saint Catherine's in
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: eighth grade and this dude's playing in the hot corner
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and he takes a one hopper off his teeth and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: he loses three teeth. I mean, his mouth is just
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And at that point I said, I don't know if.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: The sports for me, so I dude, those illum bats,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: it's the illuminum bet. When the bats started to get
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: even better, the rocket ship off the bat, those balls
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: get on infielders like No.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think people understand when they like, if you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: watched any of the College World Series and on a
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: twenty years ago and you heard it, you know the sound,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: it's like those bats they literally changed them because they said,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: somebody's gonna die. That's how fast we're coming off there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: That's not and that's that's that's not even a joke either,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: because Brett guys were having to play so deep. Even
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: if they fielded a ground ball cleanly, the throw to get.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: A guy out was it's a long I've always made
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: this case, Manlay. I played all the sports I always
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: considered and everybody. Every time I make this argument, people
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: laugh at me. I still consider it to this day,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Baseball the most dangerous sport I've ever played. It's a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: sport that that provided to me the most fear. It
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: was the biggest fear factor sport I played football. You
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: absorb it. HiT's a big deal. You get hit. You're
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: a small guy, you feel it. Yeah, big deal. Played soccer,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you can cust a couple of times. Big deal. When
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you play baseball, you're afraid. I'm afraid when I play baseball.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I would say, Look, i've never played hockey. I'm assuming
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: hockey's probably the most dangerous one. And I've said this forever,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: like hockey players would totally do this because I watched
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: them do this every night. But mos, if you took
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: ray Lewis and you put them on third base and
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: somebody hits a screaming one hopper, my guess is he's
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: bailing out of the way like he's not, say.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Freaking that is correct, now, that is absolutely correct. Now
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I will say Vic's right, dude, Vic is right, though, dude.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: And but you played I mean you you played college ball,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: and you played and some flamethrowers.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But you over became a fear. I I that's why
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I envy you that you were able to overcome that fear.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you did it. I was alway, dude,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I was always ready to bail out.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I took ninety three to the helmet one time, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding it took me about two more games
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: to have that fear go away again, because it's it
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: is freaky. I watched a kid he got hit with
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: a fastball on the jaw and Moje Josh shattered. He
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: had to have his mouth wired shut for I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: three months, and it looked like a bowling ball was
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: in the side of his face for about three weeks.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: It's horrible.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: It might like I said, in high school, my buddy Todd,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: who pits for the Angels, but he would he was
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: the big lefty. He would throw ins onto me and
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: he clipped me one time in the ribs, not on purpose,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: but I'm like, dude, He's like, just let me work
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: the inside of the plate.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, it's not anymore.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: No, because because you know, it wasn't like it wasn't like,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: you know, a legitimate thunk where you have the welt Brett.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: But stitch marks, so clip it was a clip.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: It like I don't even I don't know he's throwing
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: heat and I'm like, no, this is not not happening anymore.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I was not gonna do it, dude.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Ninth grade, I went up for the baseball team. It
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Holy family. We had a guy named Dan Leonards. Who
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: is I mean, this guy threw nineties in high school
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and back then, if you hit ninety, it was ridiculous, right.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not now where fifteen year olds are throwing
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: ninety every time.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Like, no, it's crazy.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: If you think.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And I remember stepping into the box we were just practiced,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: looking at and I said, I took a look at
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: two pitches and I said, I'm done. I'm not done.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. I'm running track. I went straight
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to the track team. I said, run me around this
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: circle as many times as you want. I'm done. I'm
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: not doing You're giving somebody a weapon and you're saying,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: use this weapon whatever you want to do. However you
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: want to throw this weapon, throw it, I know.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: And a lot of times at that age, if kids
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: throw that hard, they have trouble locating. That's why I
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: got hit in the helmet with that that on our
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: pitch and most it's literally like the scene from Super
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Troopers where they're shooting at the target and they got
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: one that center or they got like three center mass
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: and ones right in the middle of the eyes, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: they know, what about that little guy?
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Is that little guy?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry about that little guy's like, no, I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: worried about it. Control all right? Three oh three, five
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: oh four oh nine two five uh Morning Sprint commented
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: on something we were talking about yesterday between the nuggets
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: and who you want to face and when in the
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: postseason gets to it next,