Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Head of AFLNT Sean Bowden agrees it's not ideal to play Alice Springs footy solely in the region, but moving the game into other communities poses challenges
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And there has been discussion in recent weeks about footy
- 0:03Speaker 1: being played in community, particularly in Central Australia, and I
- 0:08Speaker 1: know that well. Alice Springstown Counselor Michael Little used a
- 0:11Speaker 1: council meeting last week to call for a bit of
- 0:13Speaker 1: a pause on the upcoming season being played in Alice
- 0:16Speaker 1: Springs because of the chaos it brings. Now joining me
- 0:19Speaker 1: on the line is the AFLNT chairman Sean About and
- 0:23Speaker 1: good morning to you, Sean.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Hey, good morning Katie Sean.
- 0:27Speaker 1: I know that there has been well some unreased I
- 0:31Speaker 1: guess should say in Central Australia, or some bad behavior
- 0:35Speaker 1: I guess should say, over recent weeks. What kind of
- 0:38Speaker 1: impact does that have on footy?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, probably the first thing to say
- 0:44Speaker 2: is there's no football being played in other springs YEP.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Season finished in September last year and won't resumement still
- 0:51Speaker 2: until late April early May. But when the footy is
- 0:54Speaker 2: being played, the community competition nowadays is played in Olla Springs,
- 1:00Speaker 2: so community members will travel in in large numbers and
- 1:04Speaker 2: support their team and many of them travel home, but
- 1:07Speaker 2: some of them don't, and that's what we acknowledge is
- 1:09Speaker 2: an issue that there is this flow on from people
- 1:13Speaker 2: coming into Alice Springs, and as people would understand, there's
- 1:18Speaker 2: already very difficult socioeconomic issues in Alice Springs and it's
- 1:23Speaker 2: not this isn't caused by football, but football does have
- 1:27Speaker 2: a role to play, and we want to be a
- 1:29Speaker 2: force for good in the debate, and we want to
- 1:32Speaker 2: make sure that whatever we're doing is done in the
- 1:34Speaker 2: right way, in a way that respects the people of
- 1:36Speaker 2: Alice Springs as much as it respects the community members.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, I think you hit the
- 1:41Speaker 1: nail on the head. Foot is such a wonderful thing
- 1:43Speaker 1: for everybody, and you know, a real fabric of the community.
- 1:48Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that it's having that
- 1:50Speaker 1: positive impact, which in so many ways it does. Sean,
- 1:54Speaker 1: I know that there's been that discussion obviously, Ala Springs
- 1:57Speaker 1: Counselor Michael Little talking in that council meeting Life last
- 2:00Speaker 1: week and saying that there does need to be that
- 2:02Speaker 1: pause on the upcoming season for Alice Springs and looking
- 2:06Speaker 1: at playing some of those games in other communities, But
- 2:10Speaker 1: does that lack of infrastructure in some of those communities
- 2:13Speaker 1: prevent that from happening.
- 2:16Speaker 2: It's a massive issue. The infrastructure card in it. It's
- 2:19Speaker 2: not just the infrastructure, it's the general capacity to put
- 2:23Speaker 2: competitions on out in the remote areas where you need
- 2:27Speaker 2: if we're involved, you need match managers, you need umpires,
- 2:30Speaker 2: you need to get out there. You also need to
- 2:32Speaker 2: have the basic communities for people. You need toilets and
- 2:35Speaker 2: change for the players, you need shade for the supporters,
- 2:38Speaker 2: you need water available and of course we have to
- 2:41Speaker 2: confer very closely with the police and the medical services
- 2:44Speaker 2: out there. There's a whole lot of things that do
- 2:46Speaker 2: need to be done.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Now.
- 2:48Speaker 2: We're not adverse to having that discussion and we'd like
- 2:51Speaker 2: to have it. We want to find the balance between
- 2:53Speaker 2: playing football on the terrific oveles the Ella Springstown Council
- 2:58Speaker 2: works with us to play on in Springs and the
- 3:01Speaker 2: ables that we've got in the remote communities. We want
- 3:03Speaker 2: to try and find a balance with the fixture. But
- 3:06Speaker 2: it's not as simple as simply saying let's go and
- 3:08Speaker 2: play out Bush. And one thing we're not going to
- 3:11Speaker 2: do is take away the opportunity for the young men
- 3:13Speaker 2: and women and their families of Central Australian Regional Central
- 3:17Speaker 2: Australia to play football. We have some young men that
- 3:20Speaker 2: come in on a Thursday or Friday, they'll play some
- 3:23Speaker 2: junior football in the CIFL, they'll play some senior football
- 3:27Speaker 2: and CFL, and then they'll play for their community team
- 3:29Speaker 2: on the Sunday and then they go home and this
- 3:32Speaker 2: is the highlight of their week. So we have to
- 3:34Speaker 2: find a way to make sure that continues to happen,
- 3:37Speaker 2: and also to work really closely with the presidents of
- 3:40Speaker 2: the CIFL to improve that competition. They also, by the way,
- 3:44Speaker 2: rely on community footballers. So it's a nuanced discussion and
- 3:49Speaker 2: we're really welcome it, and we'd like to know. I've
- 3:52Speaker 2: known Michael for a very long time and he's a
- 3:54Speaker 2: terrific advocate for his people and for the community, and
- 3:57Speaker 2: I think what he's done is open up an opportunity
- 4:00Speaker 2: for us to have the discussion again.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously the you know, the league isn't due
- 4:04Speaker 1: to start, as I understand, till April, so you've got
- 4:06Speaker 1: a bit of time up your sleeve. What are the
- 4:08Speaker 1: plans in place when it comes to those discussions, and
- 4:11Speaker 1: you know the potential here because I think that point
- 4:13Speaker 1: you've made is a really important one. That you can't
- 4:16Speaker 1: just say, all right, we're going to have this footy
- 4:19Speaker 1: game played out in this community on this day. You've
- 4:21Speaker 1: got to actually make sure that all the support is
- 4:23Speaker 1: out there for that game too, and the staff members.
- 4:26Speaker 1: It's a logistical challenge in terms of getting people out there.
- 4:30Speaker 1: So what you know, what sort of plans have you
- 4:32Speaker 1: got underway or what discussions are going to happen.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Ow AFL CEO Sam Gibson and our football leader leeld
- 4:43Speaker 2: Or will be down in Alice Springs shortly and I
- 4:46Speaker 2: understand their meeting with every all the key stakeholders, the
- 4:49Speaker 2: Alice Springstown Council and others. They'll also be meeting with
- 4:53Speaker 2: some of the community leaders. And there's some great community
- 4:56Speaker 2: leaders around football. Papunya, you Undermose, Santa Theresa, Tea Tree,
- 5:01Speaker 2: all these places. They love their football. So we're going
- 5:03Speaker 2: to have those discussions with them. We're going to seek
- 5:06Speaker 2: to find that balance where we can play a mix
- 5:09Speaker 2: of games out Bush and if not, if we can't
- 5:12Speaker 2: do it this year, we want the pathway that we
- 5:14Speaker 2: can do it in the following years and the years
- 5:16Speaker 2: after that. We don't want to lose this opportunity. That's
- 5:19Speaker 2: opened up to have the discussion about the infrastructure. It's
- 5:22Speaker 2: really important. I think you and I have talked about
- 5:24Speaker 2: it before, and we want to make sure that we're
- 5:28Speaker 2: in the debate, that we're at stakeholder with the other
- 5:32Speaker 2: really important leaders in all the springs, that we're able
- 5:34Speaker 2: to get this right, which will be a benefit i'm
- 5:37Speaker 2: sure for the residents of Alice Springs who there is
- 5:40Speaker 2: really difficult issues going on down there at the moment
- 5:42Speaker 2: and we know that. And also we keep footy as
- 5:45Speaker 2: a bit of a beacon for the community members, for
- 5:48Speaker 2: the young people and their families.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and I reckon it is such a tough juggle
- 5:52Speaker 1: here as well, because like you've said, footy is a
- 5:55Speaker 1: bit of a beacon, particularly for some of those young
- 5:57Speaker 1: ones who look forward to it every weekend. Well doesn't
- 6:00Speaker 1: matter what age you are really playing your footy, but
- 6:02Speaker 1: the large majority I would assume as well, you know,
- 6:05Speaker 1: absolutely well behaved and doing the right thing, and you
- 6:09Speaker 1: don't want to punish everybody or you don't want to
- 6:10Speaker 1: change things for everybody. It needs to be something that's
- 6:14Speaker 1: very much you know, good for the people of value,
- 6:17Speaker 1: good for the communities, and good for everyone playing.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Footy absolutely, And one of the big important discussions we
- 6:25Speaker 2: have to have is with the police leaders down in
- 6:27Speaker 2: Alice brings in Central Australia and we have to get
- 6:30Speaker 2: a better understanding I think just from my review of
- 6:32Speaker 2: the matter over the last week or so of the
- 6:35Speaker 2: data and where the issues really do lie. We know
- 6:38Speaker 2: we had an issue at the Grand Final last year
- 6:40Speaker 2: for the community competition, but that was a peak issue.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Most of most of the games are played in great spirit,
- 6:49Speaker 2: highly talented football and football is going on out there
- 6:52Speaker 2: with big crowds on a Sunday, which brings economic activity
- 6:56Speaker 2: in life to the town on a Sunday. So it's
- 6:58Speaker 2: what's happening before and what's happening after? And I think,
- 7:02Speaker 2: you know, and I know the police are really up
- 7:04Speaker 2: for this discussion and we'll be in it with us.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And if we can get football back into the communities,
- 7:10Speaker 2: I think also that's a great thing for the communities.
- 7:12Speaker 2: I mean in the top end we play the community
- 7:14Speaker 2: competitions out at Gove, at what air Man and greater
- 7:18Speaker 2: on the Tewei and the police tell us that when
- 7:20Speaker 2: foota's happening community the community is great. So we don't
- 7:23Speaker 2: want to lose sight of that that that's a real
- 7:25Speaker 2: option and something that we want to drive towards.
- 7:28Speaker 1: So at this point in time, are there many games
- 7:30Speaker 1: that do get to be played outside of Valles Springs
- 7:34Speaker 1: when the footy season is on, or is it a
- 7:36Speaker 1: situation where there really isn't.
- 7:37Speaker 2: At the moment, there are games, and there is still
- 7:41Speaker 2: a moving sort of unfixted community competition where teams and
- 7:47Speaker 2: communities will move around playing each other. Muty Jewel who
- 7:51Speaker 2: play in the ap Lands competition, and I believe they've
- 7:55Speaker 2: put the hand up to playing the community competition out
- 7:57Speaker 2: of Alice Springs this year, so that might be a
- 7:59Speaker 2: bit of a another different moving part. And I mean,
- 8:02Speaker 2: wouldn't it be great to play football down at Airs Rock.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Oh go to be amazing the rock there?
- 8:06Speaker 2: Yea, that'd be just incredible. So we want to embrace
- 8:08Speaker 2: those opportunities. And I saw ash Barty was down at
- 8:11Speaker 2: Mudy Julu a few days ago and just you could
- 8:15Speaker 2: see she's with the kids there and just what it
- 8:17Speaker 2: did for those kids to have someone like her there
- 8:19Speaker 2: and that sort of role model. And we want to
- 8:22Speaker 2: make football that sort of motivator and activator for these communities.
- 8:26Speaker 2: So it is happening if we can get it. It'll
- 8:29Speaker 2: be up to communities really to tell us ultimately how
- 8:32Speaker 2: they want it to happen. But if we can play
- 8:34Speaker 2: a series of community competition games in the bush, we're
- 8:38Speaker 2: going to explore that really carefully.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Well, Sean Bowden, AFLNT Chairman, I really appreciate your time
- 8:44Speaker 1: this morning. Thanks for having a chat with us and
- 8:46Speaker 1: sort of giving us a bit more detail about the situation.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, Krtie.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity, no worries, Thank you.