Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Nicolle W. Davis and Janice Walker of UF Health on Innovation and Specialized Stroke Care
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- 1:00- Welcome to the Becker's healthcare cardiology and heart
- 1:04- surgery podcast. I'm Mariah Taylor, assistant editor, and
- 1:07- I'm thrilled to be speaking with two leaders
- 1:09- from the University of Florida Health. First, we
- 1:11- have doctor Nicole Davis, director of the mobile
- 1:14- stroke program and mobile stroke treatment unit.
- 1:17- And we have Doctor. Janice Walker, system nursing
- 1:20- officer and senior vice president.
- 1:22- Thank you both for joining me today. I'm
- 1:24- really excited to learn more about all of
- 1:26- your work in mobile stroke care. But before
- 1:29- we dive into that, I'd love for you
- 1:30- to introduce yourselves and tell us a little
- 1:32- bit about your background. Doctor Walker?
- 1:35- Well, thank you for having us today. We're
- 1:37- so honored to to highlight our work around
- 1:40- our mobile stroke unit. So I'm doctor Janice
- 1:42- Walker. I'm the system chief nursing officer
- 1:45- of University of Florida Health Enterprise,
- 1:47- and I've been here, since January 19,
- 1:51- so just a short period of time. But
- 1:54- one of the things I did after I,
- 1:56- arrived is I can't
- 1:58- lead you if I don't know you. And
- 2:01- so,
- 2:02- the first 90,
- 2:04- I really, really did a lot of rounding,
- 2:07- in all of my hospitals, all of my,
- 2:10- ambulatory areas where care is provided.
- 2:12- And one of the things I strum stumbled
- 2:15- upon
- 2:16- was the University of Florida Health mobile stroke
- 2:18- team
- 2:19- unit, of which I'd never had in my
- 2:22- career
- 2:23- in other large health care systems where I've
- 2:26- served as assistant chief nurse.
- 2:28- So I cleaned off my calendar one day
- 2:31- and and reached out to to doctor Nicole
- 2:33- and said, I'm putting on scrubs, and I'm
- 2:36- coming to watch. I'm passionate about stroke care.
- 2:39- I've always led,
- 2:41- stroke organizations
- 2:43- to accreditation
- 2:44- and,
- 2:46- very sensitive to the the time frames of
- 2:49- that stroke progressing.
- 2:51- So when I saw what I saw on
- 2:53- the streets
- 2:54- of Gainesville
- 2:55- related to this struggle,
- 2:58- team and the struggle and the mobile stroke
- 3:01- unit,
- 3:01- I was blown away with the quick
- 3:05- diagnostic
- 3:07- as well as interventions
- 3:08- that happen
- 3:10- before hospital arrival.
- 3:12- So I said to many of my colleagues
- 3:14- across the nation,
- 3:16- wow. You're not gonna believe what the University
- 3:18- of Florida is doing
- 3:20- in the community
- 3:21- prehospitalization
- 3:22- related to stroke care.
- 3:26- Yes. I echo doctor Walker's sentiments. Thank you
- 3:29- so much for having us. My name is
- 3:31- Nicole Davis. I am the system director of
- 3:33- the mobile stroke program here at UF Health.
- 3:36- A little bit of my background is I
- 3:37- am a nurse by trade and have done
- 3:39- my entire training in neuroscience nursing. And right
- 3:43- here at the University of Florida, we have
- 3:45- one of the best neuroscience programs in the
- 3:47- country, so I've been honored to be a
- 3:48- part of this program for eighteen years.
- 3:52- Excellent.
- 3:53- Now
- 3:54- doctor Walker, I think, gave us such a
- 3:56- great overview of what this program is and
- 3:59- kind of what it's doing. But, doctor Davis,
- 4:01- can you give us a little bit more
- 4:03- detail about your stroke care EMS ambulances?
- 4:06- Absolutely. The UF Health mobile stroke treatment unit
- 4:09- is a specialty equipped ambulance designed to bring
- 4:11- advanced stroke care directly to patients in the
- 4:13- field.
- 4:14- So each unit is outfitted with a portable
- 4:16- CT scanner, telemedicine technology,
- 4:19- stroke specific medications, and expert clinical crew capable
- 4:22- of beginning stroke evaluation and treatment before arrival
- 4:25- at a hospital.
- 4:26- The MSTU is fully integrated into each county's
- 4:29- 911 dispatching system,
- 4:31- meaning community members just simply call 911 as
- 4:34- they normally would during a suspected stroke emergency.
- 4:37- The MSTU responds alongside traditional EMS resources,
- 4:41- and once on scene, the MSTU stroke trained
- 4:43- registered nurse and critical care paramedic will evaluate
- 4:46- the patient for signs of some signs and
- 4:48- symptoms of stroke. If a stroke is suspected,
- 4:50- the patient is brought onto the unit where
- 4:53- the crew can immediately begin the stroke workup
- 4:55- right on scene. That workup includes
- 4:58- imaging, CT,
- 4:59- laboratory testing, neurological assessment, and consultation with a
- 5:03- board certified vascular neurologist
- 5:05- through telemedicine.
- 5:06- UF Health is currently the only health system
- 5:09- in Florida operating a mobile stroke treatment unit.
- 5:12- The first was launched in Gainesville in July
- 5:14- 2023, followed by a second unit in Jacksonville
- 5:17- in June 2025, and a third serving The
- 5:20- Villages in July 2025.
- 5:23- Each MSTU operates in close collaboration with a
- 5:26- local
- 5:27- EMS agency. So in Gainesville, we collaborate with
- 5:30- Alachua County Fire Rescue.
- 5:32- In Jacksonville, it's Jacksonville Fire and Rescue Department.
- 5:34- And in The Villages, it's The Villages Public
- 5:36- Safety Department.
- 5:38- Each MSTU is staffed by a multidisciplinary
- 5:41- team that includes a stroke trained registered nurse,
- 5:43- CT technologist,
- 5:45- paramedic, and or EMT operator, while also, again,
- 5:49- connecting to a stroke trained neurologist.
- 5:52- Incredible. I I mean, this is such an
- 5:54- interesting program, and I'm so surprised that you've
- 5:57- been running this for three years, and we
- 5:59- haven't heard about it here at Becker's. So
- 6:01- I'm sorry. We're a little late to this
- 6:02- game, but I am just so interested to
- 6:05- know what was the most difficult part of
- 6:08- getting this off the ground, and what were
- 6:10- some of those initial barriers you had to
- 6:11- overcome?
- 6:12- It truly was a labor of love to
- 6:14- get the mobile stroke treatment unit program off
- 6:16- the ground. Mobile stroke is still relatively new
- 6:18- within the stroke system of care, and the
- 6:20- UF Health team spent significant time learning from
- 6:23- established programs across the country. We visited several
- 6:26- mobile stroke programs, rode along on their units,
- 6:28- learned firsthand from their experiences, and we remain
- 6:31- incredibly grateful to those programs for opening their
- 6:33- doors and sharing their knowledge with us as
- 6:35- we built our very own program.
- 6:38- But one of the largest initial barriers to
- 6:40- launching the program was funding. Mobile Stroke is
- 6:43- resource intensive and currently
- 6:45- is not yet formally recognized as a service
- 6:47- line by CMS. So as a result, the
- 6:49- limited billing opportunities
- 6:51- available for these units do not cover operational
- 6:54- costs required to sustain the program.
- 6:56- Despite these challenges, UF Health recognized the value
- 6:59- of bringing expert stroke care directly to patients
- 7:01- in the field to help decrease death and
- 7:04- disability from stroke.
- 7:05- Stroke remains a fifth leading cause of death
- 7:08- both nationally and in Florida, but more importantly
- 7:11- as a leading cause of long term disability
- 7:13- for adults.
- 7:14- The ability to diagnose and begin treatment earlier
- 7:16- can dramatically improve patient outcomes and the MST
- 7:19- was developed with that goal in mind.
- 7:22- Another major challenge was EMS buy in. The
- 7:24- concept of an ambulance delivering hospital level stroke
- 7:27- care in the field
- 7:28- represented a significant paradigm shift within emergency medicine.
- 7:32- Traditionally, EMS providers are trained to rapidly transport
- 7:36- suspected stroke patients to the hospital as quickly
- 7:38- as possible to access that care. But with
- 7:41- the MSU, we're able to bring the hospital
- 7:43- directly to the patient to perform that imaging,
- 7:45- initiate stroke evaluation, and treatment right on scene.
- 7:49- While this approach required a shift in traditional
- 7:51- thinking, our EMS partners have quickly recognized the
- 7:54- value of reducing the time to treatment and
- 7:56- improving outcomes for stroke patients in the communities
- 7:58- that we serve.
- 8:01- Excellent. And I'm sure in the last three
- 8:03- years, you've seen some incredible results. So tell
- 8:05- us a little bit more about that.
- 8:07- Yeah. So nationally, only about ten percent of
- 8:10- stroke patients are receiving care in that clot
- 8:12- busting medicine within ninety minutes of symptom onset.
- 8:15- And even less, less than two percent nationally
- 8:18- are treated within that critical
- 8:20- first sixty minutes, which we call the golden
- 8:22- hour. That's important because early treatment significantly reduces
- 8:25- the chance of long term disability and death
- 8:27- from stroke.
- 8:29- By having a mobile stroke treatment unit, UF
- 8:31- Health is able to change those outcomes. We
- 8:34- are able to perform that stroke evaluation, initiate
- 8:36- treatment in the field, and with that approximately
- 8:39- sixty two percent of mobile stroke patients are
- 8:41- treated within ninety minutes of stroke symptom onset
- 8:44- and thirty four percent are treated within that
- 8:46- golden hour.
- 8:47- In in addition to increasing the number of
- 8:49- patients treated quickly,
- 8:51- the MSU also
- 8:53- dramatically reduces the time to treatment. So on
- 8:56- average, patients cared for on the mobile stroke
- 8:58- treatment unit receive thrombolytics or that clot busting
- 9:01- medication about one hour sooner than patients transported
- 9:04- through traditional EMS pathways
- 9:06- to the hospital. That time savings translates directly
- 9:10- into better patient outcomes.
- 9:11- So patients treated on the mobile stroke treatment
- 9:13- unit experience a thirty percent increase
- 9:17- in likelihood of being directly discharged to home,
- 9:20- a shorter hospital length of stay by an
- 9:23- average of two days, and a decrease in
- 9:25- mortality by forty five percent.
- 9:28- These outcomes really reinforce the importance of rapid
- 9:30- stroke treatment and demonstrate how delivering specialized stroke
- 9:33- care directly in the field can make a
- 9:35- meaningful difference for our patients and families across
- 9:38- the communities that we serve.
- 9:41- That's absolutely
- 9:42- incredible
- 9:43- results. No wonder you've been expanding this program
- 9:46- and I'm sure you have a lot more
- 9:48- planned. So what does the future look like?
- 9:51- Yeah. The future is really exciting for UF
- 9:53- Health Mobile Stroke. So as a program, we
- 9:55- want to continue to demonstrate improved patient outcomes,
- 9:58- reduced disability, and faster access to life saving
- 10:01- stroke care. Equally important is continuing to educate
- 10:04- communities about stroke recognition and the importance of
- 10:07- calling 911 immediately
- 10:08- at the first sign of symptoms.
- 10:10- Even the most advanced stroke systems rely on
- 10:13- rapid activation
- 10:14- by patients, families, or even bystanders.
- 10:16- So we want to combine public education with
- 10:18- advanced prehospital stroke care, creating the greatest opportunity
- 10:22- to reduce disability and saves lives.
- 10:25- Ultimately, the vision of the UF Health Mobile
- 10:27- Stroke Program is simple. We want to ensure
- 10:29- stroke patients receive care as quickly as possible.
- 10:32- Every minute saved during a stroke can preserve
- 10:35- brain function, independence, and quality of life. And
- 10:37- mobile stroke can help redefine what is possible
- 10:40- in emergency stroke treatment.
- 10:43- Amazing.
- 10:44- Well, thank you both for joining me today
- 10:47- on the podcast. This has been such a
- 10:48- cool program to dive into, and we just
- 10:51- appreciate you sharing all your results.
- 10:54- Thank you for having us. It was,
- 10:56- a day I'll never forget when I watched
- 10:58- the interdisciplinary
- 11:00- team
- 11:01- in the back of that truck quickly assess,
- 11:04- diagnose,
- 11:05- and treat in the field
- 11:07- before the patient ever arrived in the emergency
- 11:10- room.