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- 0:05OK, welcome to Into the Channel podcast primarily about women's
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- 0:22notes of this episode. I am your host Dino de Suspitas
- 0:25and as always, I'm joined by my Co host Mr. Grant Angle.
- 0:29What is up man? I'm feeling all right, buddy.
- 0:31I'm not going to let the opportunity pass me by.
- 0:33We've been waiting too long to crack these beers in the last
- 0:36few episodes. I've just been forgetting.
- 0:38So I'm just going to get into it right now.
- 0:40I'm ready to talk about what happened on match day five, what
- 0:42we're looking forward to in match day six.
- 0:44I'm ready to get it popping if you will.
- 0:50Consider it popped. Cheers to you my good man.
- 0:54Cheers to you as well. All right, match day five in the
- 0:56books. Match day 6 right around the
- 0:59corner here. We're recording this Sunday
- 1:00night and we've got Champions League action this week Tuesday
- 1:03and Wednesday. Mr. Grant Angle, where do you
- 1:05want to get started? Let's get.
- 1:06Started with Group BI, Think we should probably talk about the
- 1:09matches with Real stakes on the final day here.
- 1:12Real Madrid versus Chelsea, a couple of small, plucky underdog
- 1:16clubs going at it once again in the Champions League.
- 1:19All right, so let's start with the tiebreaker.
- 1:21OK, so Chelsea right now, they're sitting on 15 points.
- 1:24Real Madrid is sitting on 12 points.
- 1:26Obviously, in the first match of the group stage, Chelsea
- 1:30defeated Real Madrid three to two in London.
- 1:34What does this mean? Let's just say, let's just say
- 1:37lightning strikes. And not to not to undervalue
- 1:40Real Madrid, but Chelsea we all know is a juggernaut.
- 1:43They're one of the juggernaut of juggernauts in this sport.
- 1:46Let's just say Real Madrid gets a one nil victory versus Chelsea
- 1:50on match day six. That would draw them level on 15
- 1:53points in Group D. And then we go to the first
- 1:55tiebreaker. That's points head to That would
- 1:57be three to three. The second tiebreaker, goal
- 2:00difference, head to head, they'd be tied.
- 2:02They don't. They'd be level on zero.
- 2:04Then we go to the third tiebreaker.
- 2:06That would be goals scored head to head, and they would be tied
- 2:09at three each. And so now we get to our first
- 2:12piece here. If Real Madrid can win by
- 2:14multiple goals, they'll win the group.
- 2:16OK, makes sense. How else did they get in all?
- 2:18Right, this is where we get real interesting.
- 2:20The 4th tiebreaker is finally we get to the traditional goal
- 2:24differential in all group stage matches and miraculously Real
- 2:30Madrid is already ahead of Chelsea 14 to 12 in gold
- 2:35differential in this group stage.
- 2:38In a group stage where we've seen the most elite clubs like
- 2:41Barcelona and Lyon and Chelsea is, you know, in that class.
- 2:44Barcelona and Lyon are way ahead on gold differential.
- 2:47Chelsea has not created that same distance, but Real Madrid
- 2:51on the strength of beating Celtic 7 nil across their two
- 2:55matches and then an additional 7 nil victory over Twente, they've
- 2:59been able to create that cushion and it could come into play and
- 3:03win them a group. Yeah, that would be massive,
- 3:05obviously. And you look at match day 5,
- 3:08Madrid takes on Celtic, they get another three, no win there to
- 3:11kind of pad that number. And I think what struck me about
- 3:14Las Blancas is they're bringing tremendous firepower off the
- 3:18bench. Yeah, you look at the match
- 3:20against Celtic, it's Athene on the 71st, it's Alba Redondo in
- 3:24the 78th, Carolyn Mohler in the 83rd, Teresa Viera on the 84th,
- 3:28and they brought on Shayla Garcia, who had the assist on
- 3:31the Redondo header. So I mean, this is huge
- 3:33firepower today versus Debor TiVo, they get another win.
- 3:36They bring on senior Bruin, Caroline Weir, Linda Gaisetto,
- 3:39Naomi Feyer, Felipe Angel Doll. Those were their 5 Subs.
- 3:42Let's go. Definitely not the Real Madrid
- 3:44of last year. And I think that's one thing
- 3:46that we've seen. Depth is really what is
- 3:49extending these leads. It's proving to be a huge
- 3:52differentiator. We'll get into like Wolfsburg,
- 3:54Roma later. But I think depth definitely
- 3:56played a factor there. I mean, obviously these two
- 3:58teams are going to lock up this week.
- 4:00They open up the proceedings Tuesday, 12:45 PM Eastern, 9:45
- 4:04AM Pacific. What are you going to be looking
- 4:06out for? Well, I'm glad you mentioned
- 4:07that Tenaya del Castillo, because then the announcer
- 4:10mentioned on the broadcast that she came back early from AI
- 4:14believe a broken collarbone injury or a collarbone injury of
- 4:17some kind, which as soon as he announced that, you know, I knew
- 4:20she was hurt. I didn't realize it was a it was
- 4:23a broken collarbone. That's just the most Atenea type
- 4:26of shit that you could possibly imagine is that I'm pretty sure
- 4:29she just yelled at her collarbone and said you're done
- 4:32being injured. Now I'm gonna go out and play
- 4:34football. And you think about the way
- 4:36Naomi Feyer has played. She's looks really good on that
- 4:40right wing. So now it's like they've had
- 4:41this opportunity to kind of develop a little extra depth, a
- 4:44little more trustworthy depth up front.
- 4:47And like you said, I think that could play a role.
- 4:49But man, those Chelsea Blues, they can look like a flying
- 4:53death machine at times. Although little bit of a wobble
- 4:56here recently if we can call it. Maybe not a wobble, but at least
- 5:01a little hiccup. Maybe the first one we've seen
- 5:03under this Bon pastor. Regime, I'm so happy that you
- 5:06brought up Bon Pastor because I feel like this is her first real
- 5:09test at Chelsea. Like, you know, these three
- 5:12matchups, match day five this weekend and now Madrid for the
- 5:16group. Yeah, today versus Leicester,
- 5:19Bon Pastor makes 7 changes to the starting lineup.
- 5:22Now Chelsea was able to dominate 28 shots to two versus Lester,
- 5:26but I don't think the finishing was there.
- 5:27They weren't quite as sharp as they were against FC-20.
- 5:30They still have a shot to be one of three teams to clear the
- 5:33group stage undefeated. But something I mean, I agree
- 5:36with you. I think outside of Vika Kaptine,
- 5:39who is working her way into the special category, just like must
- 5:45watch category, especially for such a young player, I agree
- 5:47with you. I think I think Chelsea might be
- 5:49gettable on this day. I'm not sure exactly where my
- 5:51head's at with regard to this, but I do.
- 5:54I wouldn't be shocked. I think I'll take that same
- 5:56tact. I would not be shocked if
- 5:58compelled to bet on it, even though I don't think it would be
- 6:01great value. I would bet on Chelsea to win,
- 6:04even in Madrid. I like that you brought up kind
- 6:08of the lack of finishing and some of the sharpness.
- 6:11I realized they'd be 26 to one. But in that opening goal, when
- 6:16Kent Macario and Myra Ramirez are running at the defense,
- 6:20which by the way is a terrifying prospect for or any defense,
- 6:24Macario actually misses the first pass that would have
- 6:27played Ramirez in one-on-one with the keeper.
- 6:30So then Ramirez kind of has to like reset, get it back outside
- 6:33to Cat Macario. But then she just makes the
- 6:35magic happen off the bounce. An unbelievable demonstration of
- 6:39skill. But there was that little piece
- 6:41of me that was just like, OK, well, they missed the pass You.
- 6:44I think you would like that little that could have been a
- 6:46little bit sharper. Obviously, nobody's arguing with
- 6:48the results. She still has incredible quality
- 6:51to to score it, but those little missed passes when you're
- 6:54playing Champions League football against the elite of
- 6:58the elite teams, No disrespect to FC Twente, they just seem not
- 7:01to be there yet. That kind of stuff could come
- 7:03back to bite you. Yeah, man, I get it Mr. Grant
- 7:05Angle. And not that impressed.
- 7:09Yeah, come on, come on, Cavalcario.
- 7:10That goal wasn't nearly impressive enough.
- 7:12Oh, my God, unbelievable. And then you get my Ramirez
- 7:15scoring with a ball that travelled, I don't know, 5055
- 7:18area yards, just chipping to keep her from, I mean, a great,
- 7:22great distance away. And then Eric Cuthbert, whose
- 7:25goal also travelled 55 area yards, but it's because it went
- 7:2820 yards in the air, back down 20 yards.
- 7:31That one was funny. Yeah, Chelsea on point, that
- 7:34Macario Ramirez 2 headed break. Absolutely terrifying.
- 7:38I do think that Chelsea, you know, thinking about what
- 7:41happened today versus Lester, I really think that they miss
- 7:43Khadija Buchanan. No shade at Millie Bright or
- 7:46Natalie Bjorn, but I just think that they're kind of stuck.
- 7:49Not a lot of flexibility. I think Lucy Bronze is, you
- 7:52know, obviously been huge in terms of an addition.
- 7:54Ashley Lawrence now getting into rhythm on the other side.
- 7:56But I don't know, back to Real Madrid real quick.
- 7:58Their scoring ability is is really heating up.
- 8:02Like you look at Senior Bruin. Yeah.
- 8:04I mean, I just shouted in my notes, the Punisher because not
- 8:08only does she finish, but she just like is angry at the ball
- 8:13and is angry at the net and is angry at the air in between
- 8:16those two. And she just kind of wants to
- 8:18take it out on folks. And then Alba Redondo, I mean,
- 8:21she had a header, the one that I mentioned the the ball from
- 8:24Sheila Garcia. I'm not sure how she was able to
- 8:26generate that kind of power from that angle.
- 8:29I mean, it just should not have looked like that Absolute
- 8:32professional goal scorer, one of my favorite players on the
- 8:35planet. And I mean playing a crazy,
- 8:37crazy brand of football right now.
- 8:39Yeah, I think, I mean, we call her professional goal scorer.
- 8:42You're so spot on about that header because like she just
- 8:45figured out the way like what's the perfect angle?
- 8:47What's the perfect spot of I had to strike it with to generate
- 8:49that little extra bit of power. It's like, I think you can teach
- 8:53that, but I feel like people are largely born with it and then
- 8:56the ability to kind of teach themselves the rest.
- 8:59Yeah, Come so easy to. Did we want to make a
- 9:02prediction? I know we said that we wouldn't.
- 9:04I feel like we've talked it out. I got a lot of stuff out of my
- 9:06system with regard to Chelsea, Madrid.
- 9:09I feel like I want to lean Madrid here.
- 9:12Wow. I'm going to say that Las
- 9:14Blancas clawed a draw. Give me two to two.
- 9:17OK, I like that. I will say 21 Chelsea.
- 9:21Chelsea gets a late winner, Madrid makes a real battle out
- 9:24of it. Though, love it.
- 9:26OK, the other couple teams in Group B, FC-20, Celtic, they'll
- 9:30face off at the same time slot. 12:45 PM Eastern.
- 9:33Not going to preview this one. Shout out to the two squads we
- 9:35enjoyed watching but got to keep it moving.
- 9:37Shift gears, Group A. This one doesn't quite have the
- 9:40stakes. I think we were looking for
- 9:42Leon, the only team to this point that's clinched the group.
- 9:45Wolfsburg they earned their way in with a big heartbreaking for
- 9:49your boy. 6 to one. I almost saw scout 6 to one win
- 9:53over Roma. You called it, you were on it.
- 9:55Wolfsburg. They are who you thought they
- 9:57were. What was your main take away
- 9:59from this one? They obviously come out firing,
- 10:01they come out aggressive. Alex Pop gets the goal early, I
- 10:04felt to kind of set the tone for the rest of the match.
- 10:07But you know, Roma, they are scrappy.
- 10:09They stay in it. They just right now are having a
- 10:13hard time turning defense into offense.
- 10:16Because the great Sophie Lawson, who is a freelance women's
- 10:20football writer, contributes work to ESPN.
- 10:23Please correct me if I'm missing some other outlets on there
- 10:25because I'm, I'm guessing anybody who watches this program
- 10:27probably follows Sophie's work. But she had pointed out that it
- 10:30just feels like Roma everything is, can we get the ball to
- 10:33Giacinti? Can we get the ball to Giuliano?
- 10:36Like we just don't have a ton of players that we can are able to
- 10:40get the ball to and trust them to push the attack forward.
- 10:43I think that's something that they're just going to have to
- 10:45fix to make themselves a little more to take that next step in
- 10:48the Champions. League, I think it speaks to the
- 10:50depth point also. Yeah, not a lot of moves to go
- 10:52to there for Roma. They bring on Trigoni a little
- 10:54bit later to try to see if they could get some magic together
- 10:57there, but they're counting on, you know, good amount of older
- 11:00players. I think the first, the first bit
- 11:02of my notes was, you know, Elena Lenari like is like limping off
- 11:05like 3 minutes into the game. It's plus 1°C, a kickoff and
- 11:09Wolfsburg hits the post like I think twice in the 1st 2 minutes
- 11:13to kind of just set the tone and it's like, oh shit, now Linar is
- 11:16limping off and I'm like, OK, this is this is going very, very
- 11:18badly. The pop goal definitely felt
- 11:20like it's coming. But yeah, like you mentioned,
- 11:22Roma hung pretty tough. GT does get the goal.
- 11:27We talked about that on last week's show.
- 11:28OK, Like Roma would have the firepower to defend a little
- 11:31bit, claw their way back into the game, which they did.
- 11:34But then, yeah, Linneth Birnstein, she gets off the
- 11:36Schneide, puts Wolfsburg up two to one, and then they bring in.
- 11:40I don't know. We need a we need a nickname.
- 11:41We definitely need a nickname. But that killer from Iceland
- 11:44Savandis Jane Jones Diltier, which really do this real quick.
- 11:48Apologies to the legend, Julie Foudy.
- 11:50We learned from The Zone's Michael McCann that Jones
- 11:53Diltier actually does mean John's daughter.
- 11:56So who? Yeah.
- 11:57You know, Foudy had it right. Egg on my face.
- 12:02That's why she's a pro. And we're just out here doing
- 12:04our best. Just to be clear.
- 12:06Wait, she was telling you? John's daughter, I'm not, I'm
- 12:10not 100% certain she's aware of the Icelandic meeting.
- 12:14But you know what? Shout to the legend.
- 12:15She's one of the greatest of all time.
- 12:17But let's let's give her the benefit of that.
- 12:19If you want to question Julie Foudy based on what we know and
- 12:22what we learned. Yeah, you know what?
- 12:25Far be it from me. I don't want that smoke.
- 12:26OK, That's fine. Sorry.
- 12:28Julie Jones Dotere. Meaning John's daughter.
- 12:31That's what you meant the whole time.
- 12:33Gotcha. All right, so Jones Dotere comes
- 12:35to the game, scores four goals. So in my notes I've got I've got
- 12:396880 five, 8990 + 2, which upon just looking at it looks like
- 12:45one of those like apples suggested passwords.
- 12:47It's just a random number. Unbelievable.
- 12:50Capitalizes on a Soko mistake, beats the Soko again, shrugs off
- 12:55Saki Kumugai for a third one. I mean, just looked unstoppable.
- 13:00Just unstoppable. And real quick, they played
- 13:03Vertibremen this weekend. We got a little glimpse of
- 13:06Birenstein and Jones. Stotier on the same break,
- 13:09looked a little Myra Mercario ish.
- 13:11You know, I think it had the same level of like fear being
- 13:14induced looking at those players.
- 13:16Nice. Yeah.
- 13:16I mean, you know, Birenstein Nets two against Verdure Bremen
- 13:20today in from Bundesliga. I mean, Jones Stotier was timing
- 13:25her runs so brilliantly in this match against Roma.
- 13:29They just had no answer for her as soon as she got onto the
- 13:33field. I mean, now if you pair her and
- 13:35you have and you have Pop kind of maybe feeding in some passes,
- 13:39Endem and feeding in some passes with Berenstein, everybody's
- 13:42kind of clicking. You mentioned Berenstein gets
- 13:44off the the Champions League schneid.
- 13:46I believe she did not. I think that might have been her
- 13:48first goal for Wolfsburg in the Champions League, I think if
- 13:51memory serves. So that's not terrifying for
- 13:54opponents or anything. They're now three wins on the
- 13:56spin in the Champions League, building confidence and now you
- 14:00I have the 23 year old Icelandic powerhouse gaining confidence
- 14:05and that snowball starts rolling downhill.
- 14:08Everybody look out a. 100%, yeah.
- 14:11And I think you look at this matchup versus Lyon, I went back
- 14:13and checked out some of the numbers from the first one match
- 14:16day one, Lyon takes that 1-2 nil.
- 14:19When you look at how the goals were scored, one of them was
- 14:21like crazy Du Mornay dime from distance that finds Wendy Renar
- 14:26in the box, you know, kind of a little bit out of position, but
- 14:28there smashes in the header. And then the second goal was Du
- 14:32Mornay kind of running, you know, like on her way
- 14:35out-of-the-box, getting fouled, running away from goal.
- 14:38Leon earns the penalty, Harang gets the PK, and that's how you
- 14:42get to two nil. Oh.
- 14:43I remember that now, yeah. Yeah.
- 14:44OK. I know what you're about, Yeah.
- 14:46Wolfsburg brings on Famous Jane in the 77th, gets 14 minutes of
- 14:50action, gets a shot on target, four shot Creating actions made
- 14:53a difference late in that match. I think it's going to be
- 14:55something to lookout for. But Leon on the other side has
- 14:57just been dominant this season, combining the Premier League and
- 15:01the Champions League. They've won 15 of 16, the only
- 15:04blemish a nil, nil draw at Perry FC.
- 15:07There's 68 goals for four against come on now, plus 64.
- 15:12That's ridiculous. They only give up one goal in
- 15:15five Champions League group sage matches.
- 15:17That's ridiculous as well. Wolfsburg, though, on a pretty
- 15:20good run as well after that loss to Lyon, put together seven
- 15:23straight wins. They've won nine of 10,
- 15:25including that three one win this morning over voted Bremen.
- 15:28So I kind of wish this one had some stakes, but who knows?
- 15:31These could be two teams that meet each other down the line as
- 15:34well. Yeah, I mean, you never know.
- 15:35I think the key thing here is we'll be on lineup watch in the
- 15:38morning. We'll see what the what those
- 15:40look like an hour before the match.
- 15:42But yeah, even if they do rotate the squads a little bit and kind
- 15:45of, you know, maybe hold something back, I think you'll
- 15:47still be able to glean something because like you, like you
- 15:50mentioned, the depth is what kind of powers these big time
- 15:54teams. So we might see some of these
- 15:56players in important matches anyway.
- 15:58So I think it'll be a pretty nice matchup to round out the
- 16:01afternoon. Absolutely yeah, and for Lyon
- 16:03depth might be ML madre and usually like some air and just
- 16:08superstar players. Either way, it doesn't matter.
- 16:11Roma Galatasaray going down at the same time in the late slot.
- 16:14I might give this Roma Galatasaray match a watch.
- 16:17I mean, I think I you know, I'll I'll catch it.
- 16:19I'll catch it on the delay and quick, quick PSAI think going
- 16:22into next year's group stage. Let's just make a pact the zone.
- 16:26No spoilers. Some of us are out here trying
- 16:29to watch these matches back-to-back, especially if we
- 16:32have a team and in a specific group and there's another team.
- 16:34We've got to track these things. At the same time, let's let's
- 16:37uphold the drama. You do such a great job making
- 16:39this content available for streaming, right?
- 16:41Just push of a button couldn't be easier.
- 16:44Or at the very least, you know, we've added this convention to
- 16:47everyday life. Hey, spoiler alert, Manchester
- 16:50City has gone up against St. Bolton.
- 16:52Not so hard, you know. Give me a chance to hit the view
- 16:55button and and. We're off and running.
- 16:56I like it. I'm sure they'll heed that
- 16:58warning. I think that makes sense.
- 17:00Now next year, if I understand correctly, they are converting
- 17:03the group stage into what I think they call the Swiss model.
- 17:06So it's going to be like this league play thing that they're
- 17:08doing in the well that they were supposed to do in the men's
- 17:11Champions League. I heard that they cancelled the
- 17:13English Premier League in the men's Champions League.
- 17:15I don't know what's going. I don't know what's happening
- 17:16either those. So I don't think they're playing
- 17:18any matches. I haven't heard anything about
- 17:20what's going on in those, so don't don't bother telling me if
- 17:23any scores are happening. But yeah, I do like the no
- 17:26spoilers, even if they're going to do that kind of league play
- 17:29model next year. You know, Dozone, they're
- 17:32already looking out on not showing the scores like when we
- 17:34go into the into the front end to kind of like put on the game.
- 17:37So yeah, just that little extra heads up from the announcers.
- 17:40I think we'd be all set. Yep, shout.
- 17:42Out to zone. All right man, anything else you
- 17:44want to hit before we get out of?
- 17:45Here one thing because I'm not going to let us leave without
- 17:48it. Just in case anybody forgot,
- 17:49please roll the tape of me predicting three straight
- 17:52Wolfsburg victories back when they were O and two in the group
- 17:55stage. I'm here to tell you the
- 17:58Wolfsburg Revenge Tour starts on match day three.
- 18:02They're going to win both matches versus Galatasaray.
- 18:04That'll get them to six, and then they're going to beat Roma.
- 18:08They're going to get to 9. I'm making the prediction right
- 18:13now. They're going to rattle off
- 18:14three wins in a row in this tournament and get to 9 points
- 18:17and then anything can happen from there.
- 18:19Boom, nailed it. There it is.
- 18:21Well deserved victory lap. This is not easy to do.
- 18:24You know, we're we're we're embarrassing ourselves week in
- 18:26week out here. You know, we could celebrate a
- 18:28little something when we get something right.
- 18:29And according to our Twitter poll, I think, yeah, I don't
- 18:31know, 46% of the audience maybe agreed with you.
- 18:34It wasn't it wasn't a slam dunk by any sense of the word.
- 18:37Quick programming reminder, Part 2 will be coming up probably
- 18:40today, probably tomorrow, but definitely after this episode.
- 18:42Or we'll be looking at Wednesday's Champions League
- 18:45match day six matchups. We'll follow that up next week
- 18:48with our best elevens of 2024. Have you started that by the
- 18:50way? The research has begun.
- 18:52I do not know if my 11 is set yet.
- 18:54I don't feel, I don't feel like my 11 is set.
- 18:57I have, I have names, but I still have some people floating
- 19:00out there. I'm like, you should probably be
- 19:01in there. Yeah, tough exercise.
- 19:03I've got a first draft of the 11 that I think very much could
- 19:06change, but super excited about that episode.
- 19:08And another reminder, February 7th will be live on YouTube
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- 19:16All right, man, I think we did it.
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- 19:39He's locked in match Day 6. Here we go.
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