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🏡 The Valley Reunion Pt. 2 + 🏙️ Next Gen NYC: High Conflict Relationships and Breaking the 4th Wall · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, welcome back in It's Drama Darling, Today, The
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  Speaker 2: Valley and Next Gen with Me Deanna Chang, Deanna welcome
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  Speaker 2: in to talk about SBA, Loans, and and Shia. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm excited about all the stuff that we
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  Speaker 2: get to talk about today.
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: Shia makes me very happy on this program. Wow, he's
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: he does because to see someone so shook up almost
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: every episode, emotions so raw and real, and he's just
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  Speaker 3: like he's just treading water with these people on.
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  Speaker 2: Out of his league. He's out of his league and
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  Speaker 2: he knows it.
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  Speaker 3: He knows it, he knows and so you're watching it
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  Speaker 3: and it's fun to watch. I just get a kick
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  Speaker 3: out of him. In addition, I want to say this
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  Speaker 3: Amy before we move forward with Shia.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I absolutely love his shirts and his line. I
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  Speaker 2: love it. I'm this is a perfect outlet for him,
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: and I think he's going to be very successful. Dare
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  Speaker 2: I say Eclipse Brooks marks.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a brilliant idea. And his shirt for
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  Speaker 3: Bravo Khan was gorgeous, Like.
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  Speaker 4: It's a beauty. He does beautiful work.
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  Speaker 2: Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous work. So shout out to you, Shaia.
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  Speaker 2: And we're not even talking about next John yet. So
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  Speaker 2: that's just a little appa teezer. Let's I don't I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to tell you up front. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to don't ask many follow ups on this. But it
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  Speaker 2: was Mattie's first day back at school, and so I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to like keep talking about it because I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to get emotional. But it was great and
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  Speaker 2: I'm very excited. She's in fourth grade. Now, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about the Valley date, Deanna. Don't do it. Don't
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna because we got too much.
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  Speaker 2: We can talk about it again another time. Let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about this is not the day. No, it's not. You
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  Speaker 2: know what it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's that's not your time and place.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: I've impressed that to have these drops in a home studio, Amy,
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  Speaker 3: that's already with the quickness that you find them and execute.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I thought that I really appreciate you for
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  Speaker 2: saying that. Thank you so much. Well. I thought the
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  Speaker 2: Valley had an exquisite reunion Part two.
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  Speaker 4: It was good.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was fire I mean, I really did.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and I get that the jen I thought
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  Speaker 2: Next Gen was a fire episode like these two apps
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  Speaker 2: to watch and to be able to talk about. I'm
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  Speaker 2: very I'm thrilled, I am excited, and just to begin
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  Speaker 2: talking about Michelle Jesse. Lacey is kind of like where
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  Speaker 2: we left off last week, you know, in a way,
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  Speaker 2: because we so don't really fully know what to do
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  Speaker 2: with Lacey and Da Da Da Da Da, and this
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  Speaker 2: week it really does sort of solidify how she just
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  Speaker 2: you don't know which way she's coming and going. I
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  Speaker 2: have to say, I think this was the first time
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  Speaker 2: that Jesse actually heard it for real that he will
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  Speaker 2: not be getting her money and they will be breaking
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  Speaker 2: up soon, just so everybody knows. Because the way that
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  Speaker 2: he was like wanting to be he was like, will
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  Speaker 2: you be my girlfriend? And she's like slow your role,
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  Speaker 2: like let's just and he's like, yeah, let's just keep it,
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  Speaker 2: keep it like it is, keep it like it is.
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  Speaker 2: And then for her to say like, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to get married again. I will never pay for a man,
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  Speaker 2: and then slamming Michelle didn't appreciate maybe that's what you do.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, babe, you kind of are and you
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  Speaker 2: don't really know it at this point, I think you are.
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  Speaker 2: And so Jesse's face. The realization on so many levels
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  Speaker 2: in this episode were so satisfying because he was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I guess we're not gonna wow, all right. I thought
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  Speaker 2: that this was going to be going somewhere in terms
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  Speaker 2: of monetary purposes, and it is not. Did she get that?
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  Speaker 3: Fe Look, I agree with you one hundred thousand percent,
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  Speaker 3: and I think she is paying for things. She doesn't
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  Speaker 3: understand she's paying for it at this point, right for sure?
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  Speaker 3: But he yes, I think that that he was an
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  Speaker 3: eye opener.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she said. Andy was like, oh man, the way
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  Speaker 2: that Andy was on his it's back Andy, what did
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  Speaker 2: you spend that money on? The loan money?
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  Speaker 4: Jesse?
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  Speaker 2: Sheena said mean things about me, and Sheena went on
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  Speaker 2: a hike and Lala went on a hike. She doesn't hike.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, you really are trying to trying
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  Speaker 2: to like disguise what vert divert He tried so hard,
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  Speaker 2: And what'd you spend that money on?
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  Speaker 1: Sheina?
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  Speaker 2: Sheina did it? It's like literally what happened? And then
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  Speaker 2: Laala did it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle's like you guys, he's just really embarrassed, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: do I look embarrassed? I mean, and then I saw
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  Speaker 2: like the embarrassed emoji basically all over his face. It
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  Speaker 2: was like the emoji for embarrassment just smack on his face.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, complete with a literal like gulp, gulp, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you're embarrassed.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I just so Andy just just kick off an episode
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  Speaker 3: with like what'd you do with the three hundred k?
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  Speaker 3: And then dive right into the two you couldn't pay
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  Speaker 3: two hundred for your daughter's insurance?
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  Speaker 2: Like like it was just too They knocked out punch,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was, he was down, and the ref
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  Speaker 2: was like and you won.
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  Speaker 3: It was like he lifted up Michelle's arm or was
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  Speaker 3: like he won this well because she's so simple about it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, listen that the internet seems to be team Lacy.
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  Speaker 3: I think you and I are not buying what she's selling.
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  Speaker 4: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 2: But I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's they think she's killing it. She's doing it.
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  Speaker 2: She's knocking Michelle out, but like, oh, I don't know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get her. I don't buy it. I think they
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  Speaker 3: don't buy Well what I did think was fascinating because
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: you have to remember that this is like being on
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  Speaker 3: a panel with your ex husband is crazy, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: you can think kind of forget it. But when Andy said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, asked him to say they love you, I
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  Speaker 3: love you to each other, and Lacey coquettishly sort of
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  Speaker 3: like turned a different color than we've seen and she
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  Speaker 3: was just like, I love you. Michelle was so locked
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  Speaker 3: in and watching and receiving and seeing, and that's the
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing you do when you're trying to understand
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  Speaker 3: what's between your ex and someone else and you need
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  Speaker 3: to you need you need the verification.
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  Speaker 4: Like she just was locked in on that.
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  Speaker 2: She I that stood out to me, It really is
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  Speaker 2: that like just rose to the top. And I kept
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  Speaker 2: thinking about that too, and I thought, this is so
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  Speaker 2: hard for her, This is so unfair, and she's just
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  Speaker 2: got to sit here and take all this. He's just
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  Speaker 2: lying in her face and trying to cover his reputation,
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  Speaker 2: trying to cover his ass. I mean, you can't really
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  Speaker 2: blame him for that, I understand, but like, sure, what
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  Speaker 2: a bad guy to then be calling her a and
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  Speaker 2: her a liar, and her a liar and just basically
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  Speaker 2: gaslighting her and then for them to prove their love
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  Speaker 2: essentially is what everybody was trying to get them to do.
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  Speaker 2: And she's just like, this is actually happening. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think she was saying to herself, does he really have
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  Speaker 2: feelings for her at all? Or is it just what
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  Speaker 2: I thought? Which is the money thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think she was seeing what feelings Lacey had for him.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I got from it. I'm sure also him
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  Speaker 3: to her. But I think in that moment, because we
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen Lacy be demonstratively warm to Jesse, she was
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  Speaker 3: locked in on how is Lilcy going to respond? And
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  Speaker 3: she saw something I don't think she's seen before, and
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  Speaker 3: I think it was information.
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  Speaker 2: Well even Lacey was like, I don't even normally do that.
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  Speaker 2: I would say thank you. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: that was real. I mean, who knows, but who knows?
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  Speaker 2: When she started to Lacey that is stick up for
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  Speaker 2: Jesse when it came to he doesn't. When Andy was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like, you know, she's paying a majority of
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  Speaker 2: the household expenses and you're not even able to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and the way that Lacey jumped in and was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really think that that's and he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: please to keep talking, you know, please do stick up
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  Speaker 2: for me, and I just thought this is so weak.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you've got your butter, your stick of butter
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  Speaker 2: next to you doing all the talking. Butter. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: and I love.
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  Speaker 4: Oh she did look a stick of butter.
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  Speaker 2: And I love butter. Don't get me wrong, I love
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  Speaker 2: butter butter that Michelle was like, okay, so if you
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  Speaker 2: didn't spend it, show Everyboddy where that three hundred is.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to know. And he's like, you're a
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  Speaker 2: liar and a cheat. He just doesn't he doesn't have it,
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  Speaker 2: and he just is like the most toddler fighter yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen. And then Michelle was like, no, I
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  Speaker 2: have the text about paying the insurance. You literally said
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  Speaker 2: I don't have it. Give me your credit card number.
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  Speaker 2: Who in the world is going to believe him over
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  Speaker 2: Michelle at this point?
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean I know he spent it on like shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to know what he did spend it on. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: And then this was kind of sad. I did kind
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  Speaker 2: of feel sad for him in this way, only because
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  Speaker 2: I felt sorry for him and I don't like to
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  Speaker 2: feel sorry. But it seemed a little pathetic because he
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I've got my life together now that
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  Speaker 2: thank you Andy, I've got it. I'm in a new
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  Speaker 2: house and just everything's going just so great. Unfortunately, you know,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: this thirty million dollar deal fell through, but you know,
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: other than that, and I'm like, ooh, I know across
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  Speaker 2: the room we hear always does I'll fall through her
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  Speaker 2: her little baby as sides are everything. I know, like,
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  Speaker 2: it's so good, it's so good.
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  Speaker 4: They're just.
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  Speaker 3: You know she cause, yeah, she just quietly unpacks the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Over there she does. And you know what she threw
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  Speaker 2: out on the table that was unexpected. When Andy, I think,
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: was giving them kudos for like, you know, having they
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  Speaker 2: they were in love with each other at one point,
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: as we saw, and I think the question was, well,
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  Speaker 2: how long do you think that you were really happy
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  Speaker 2: in your marriage? And she said five years, which I
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  Speaker 2: think is a pretty darn good long time considering gorgeous
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: California marriage. And then and then for her to throw
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  Speaker 2: out there, I was abandoned once I had a baby.
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  Speaker 2: That is a hard pill to swallow. And so when
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  Speaker 2: he's like, you're a liar and cheat, and I think
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: where were you then when she had a baby, because
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like you weren't around at all and it
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: was COVID, So what the hell were you doing then?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Do I think she cheated? I do, but I don't care. Yeah,
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: me too, because I know she was pushed to it.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's so empty, this threat he wanted. She's
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  Speaker 3: not going to admit it on air, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care. We all know and we all
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  Speaker 2: don't care. Of course, you had to. You had you
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  Speaker 2: had to because he his true colors came out and
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: he he is not a good person, and he like
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  Speaker 2: left you for dead.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: It's really sad. It's really sad. I just feel her
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: pain so tremendously, and all you see is his immaturity
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and pieces of anger, you know, And I just think, like,
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  Speaker 2: did you even I don't even know he is the
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  Speaker 2: capability of really loving because he's so narcissistic, you know,
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day. It's it's odd. But anyway,
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: Zach not having any furniture still, I hope he gets
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: some sort of brand deal. I mean, I think that
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: we will see him on his social media soon and
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: it'll be like living spaces and then he'll just be
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: like check this out, you know, and it kind like
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  Speaker 2: totally furnished. So I'm excited about that. And again living spaces, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Furniture, you name it. All these great guys in
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  Speaker 2: West Elm or you know, you're not making your way
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: to CB two or oh CB two would be a
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  Speaker 2: good one.
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  Speaker 4: That would be good. I would.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Benji deserves a little c B two
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  Speaker 2: up in there, you know, Benji, I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure about this guy pushing having having to start
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  Speaker 2: kids in the next year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's his reality.
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay with that actually, because I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: Zach wants children, and so you have to get to
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  Speaker 3: that point where you really like, I don't think time
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  Speaker 3: is going to change that for him.
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  Speaker 2: I actually now that I understand why he doesn't want children.
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  Speaker 2: Now I actually do have I guess. I guess I'm
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  Speaker 2: open minded to him changing his mind on having kids
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  Speaker 2: if he was in a different circumstance. Like I think
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  Speaker 2: that he is one of the few people that I
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: have seen ever really contemplate having children when they when
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: they know they can't give them the things that they
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  Speaker 2: that they want them to have, and I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that he was like when I grew up,
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  Speaker 2: I was you know, they sacrificed a lot for me,
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  Speaker 2: my parents, and he essentially had everything that he needed.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have furniture in his apartment. Okay, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: It's completely unrealistic. He's not in to a place in
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  Speaker 2: his life where he can pour into a child or
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  Speaker 2: a baby. It's just like, let him get his career going.
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  Speaker 2: He's this is season three of The Valley. The money
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  Speaker 2: will start coming next season and he'll start being more
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  Speaker 2: stable within the next five years. But I can't see
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  Speaker 2: him having kids for another five years, honestly, until he's
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: like in a house. He seems like that kind of person,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: and I'm open to that.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry I put such a strong line down, but
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: he definitely should have fished furniture. I also am just like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: what are they getting paid? You know, you can't confuse
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I am Matthews.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: It is concerning to me. Although if you think about it,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: whatever he got paid, he gave it to Kristen to
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: pay her back.
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  Speaker 4: He did not, Yes, he did, but it wasn't that much.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it was probably like oh wait, right, okay,
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  Speaker 2: hold on, let me think about this. I'm gonna guess
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  Speaker 2: it was probably twenty thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but like, are we not? Are we on the
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  Speaker 3: television for under fifty thousand?
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, let's look at the numbers. Let's say he
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  Speaker 2: got one hundred thousand for the season, and that's like
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  Speaker 2: low end. Okay, it is so, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, it does seem like they should all be having
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: it is a large cast.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say he got a hundred, get one hundred and fifty.
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  Speaker 3: We are on season three, and it does feel like
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  Speaker 3: we should be making.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't like a full cast member at the beginning,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Like him and Jasmine are kind of trolling along here,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: and I think that, like I don't know who paid
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: for the wedding, but like if Jasmine paid for it
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and Melissa they both paid for it, I would imagine
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of her salary went toward the wedding. Okay,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: So if so, first season, I think they were more like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe got fifty thousand. That's my guess. Me
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  Speaker 2: be like maybe I don't even think Okay, let's say
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: they have fifty thousand the first season. Second season, let's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: say they got seventy five, maybe like eighty five. Let's
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: say they got I'd say eighty five for Zach because
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: he became a little bit more of a he was
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: starting to stand out a little bit more than Jasmine.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Jasmine is sort of it's not that she's coasting. She's trying, but.
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  Speaker 4: It's not landing.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. Yeah, she's not as important of a player
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  Speaker 2: as Zach has become. So then let's say, sure, one
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  Speaker 2: seventy five he got for this season. Okay, you're gonna
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: give ten percent to your agent, you're gonna give five
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  Speaker 2: percent to your manager. You're gonna give five percent to
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  Speaker 2: your lawyer. You're gonna give ten or.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever percentage of those things.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I guarantee he does, and another percentage to his pr.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he doesn't have the monstered fridge, Like, I
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: don't know that he has a lawyer. Amy, I love you,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: but I don't know that he does. He doesn't have
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: a couch. I'm not sure. You're sure.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let me let me put it this way.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think that he's keeping a lawyer on retainer.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: But I do think that if a lawyer negotiated his contract.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: That lawyer is going to take five percent. He has
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: one or the other. ZAC is not staffed up. He's
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  Speaker 2: just not He doesn't have a couch. I don't think
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: he's staffed that's because all this money is going to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: this team.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this team. We got to cut some
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: of the team. Goddamn it. This team is not worth it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: This team is keeping us down.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: We're gonna lose our relationship over this goddamn team.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: But at the you know, at the point when I
• 18:51
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  Speaker 2: had a manager, and I had an agent and a
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• 19:03
  Speaker 2: like this, So like, I guess what I'm saying is
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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  Speaker 4: But that's true.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Look, he doesn't have a couch, he
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a monster fridge. And it was shocking to
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: see him on a reunion couch saying that. And believe me,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, you got to pay this guy more.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, or.
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  Speaker 3: Gift him at least a dining set. You know something, something,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: don't you know? It started all of a sudden, It
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: looks bad on you, Andrew. If the guy can't fashion together.
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  Speaker 2: No, it looks really bad for Bravo. I completely agree.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I don't like it one bit. I actually hate it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's bullshit. I don't think they pay their
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: their people anywhere near what they should. Actually they pay
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: them well when they get to a certain tier, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: they mark well, the residuals is not there, and I
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: don't like that.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Are the residuals at all anymore? You know, residuals are
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: going away, And that's true, that's just the damn truth.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Because there's not network TV as much.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So let's go to Lala and Randall. He's in Miami,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: pops up here and there, and her daughter loves him.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: That's great. But they have to talk on the app
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: because of it's a high conflict. Because it's high conflict.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I love to hear like these.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Language.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like high conflict. Run this app because it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: high conflict. I love that. It tickles you just as much.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I love it, and I love it. Lala's like Sosa
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: is kicking my ass because she's just like me. Oh
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that killed me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah it was good.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, we got to talk about Kristin and Luke because
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: there were some zingers and some bombs that were dropped
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: by this guy, and all right, let me, I'm gonna
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: just like I'm gonna throw the ball over to you,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you know, okays looks whoever? Like, So he does acknowledge
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that he was being selfish, and then he did say
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: some other things like what were your thoughts on that?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I thought, like, we're in a bad place, you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that was my overall sense. It's like we're in a
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: lot of danger as a couple.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: We're not. We are on.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Quicksand over here, oh jeez, and just time of high
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: conflict as Andy and the gang all roll questioning eyes
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: and confused faces. Yeah, I thought you roll yourself into
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: like for a couple of therapists to be like, what's
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: happening here is so volatile high conflict that I can't
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: address any of this until you two can come and
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: more simmered.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Way, like you're so crazed that not my socks off
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: with you? That knocked my socks off. So I would
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: like to discuss this now. First of all, I know
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: somebody who has had they they've gone to marriage therapists,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and they were on so two completely different planes in
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: terms of like the story and like they're asked their
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: perspective of the situations that that the therapist was like,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you guys are on two different in two different worlds,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and so I think maybe it's more like that. Until
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that we can acknowledge that, like these events, this event happened,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and you can agree on the actual steps of the events,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: we can't go anywhere. That is the only way I
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: can make heads or tails of it. Because when she
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: she says like they're in there and they she won't
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: see them until they work this out. I'm like, that
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem right. Like, if it's this bad, who are you?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And you go to therapy and they kick you out
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: because it's bad, then what are you? How are they
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: gonna help it's bad? That's not so. I don't think
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: that they're like screaming at each other. I just think
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't seem right. It seems like a real
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: hole in the system.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Deanna, Yes, it's a hole in the system. I think
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: that we are just we just saw the surface of
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: what's going on. I mean, we saw through the season,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: but I think he wants out of Los Angeles. He's
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: going to leave Los Angeles she's apparently going with him,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: but is that really going to happen?
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Who knows?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. She was like Colorado, God no, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he's like what, oh right, No, those are fighting words,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you know, like you can't you can't say that, like
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that's his home, you know. And then she's like, no,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful like the land. It's like, well, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: give a dog a bone. You guys both give a
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: dog a bone. And I don't want to focus on
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Kristin Luke. I love that you are honest, but there
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: are some things that you can't say out loud.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, broh, yeah, yeah, I mean you know, he and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: he listen. I've never liked him, and I just want
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: to stand in my truth on that. I've never cared
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: for him, and I like that about myself.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I love that about you.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I was never buying what he was selling. I think
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: that they are a strange match to begin with. You know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: they don't really make sense together at all. Yeah, so
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: there's that, and she does need a lot of help,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: meant like, with her emotions and her and her anger.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I root for Kristen one
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: hundred percent. I just don't know that he is the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: guy to be able to. I think they're just making
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: each other crazy right now. And if they can get
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: through this time, who knows. But I can't see it
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: working personally. I just can't see it. And that's really sad.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It is really sad. And I think Kristen is doing
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of the heavy lifting. You know, she's biting
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: her tongue more. And I know she's saying things that
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: she shouldn't say either. I know she's saying hurtful things
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: here and there. I get it, they both do. What
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I found interesting was that when they talked about him
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: acknowledging like if if he hadn't proposed yet and she
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: was pregnant, would he still propose after she was pregnant,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and him saying like meh, you know.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I mean not what you want to hear.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It's bad and over and over again, have we heard this,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, like I just at some point
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you have to hear it, like fully, hear it, receive it,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: he'd I don't know.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I think he is younger than her.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing she's pulling the way she's towing
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the line, and that's really not like that fair when
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: she's going through such a crucial time, when they're going
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: through a crucial time, changes and hormones and parenting and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. And you know, I think that her
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: saying I like that, he's actually honest because at least
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I know that's what he's thinking. So when she said that,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, Kristen, I see you. Yeah, And
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I think she does like that because she's so used
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: to all of these guys, like you know, like a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Jack's or a Tom just going off and doing stuff
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: in this most secret of places, in all the back rooms,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: whereas at least Luke is forward facing, assholeishness is right
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: there in front of you, so at least she can
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: address it. Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Well, you know.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: The other thing is like I just met a woman
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: who is from Long Island. Moved to Vegas with her
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: husband when they were in their twenties. He took to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Vegas like a fish to water.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: She hated it.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: She has been there this whole time, she's in her
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: late fifties.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: She hates it every single day. Wow, wants to be
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: back in Long Island. I think when when a partner
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: hates a location, yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's bad.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: You know, you can have two people one likes it
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: more than the other one. Maybe like, ah'd be nice
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: if we lived here or there, But like, I think
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: you both have to have a baseline of like we
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: like I've seen I have a friend whose husband Yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: It's it's just heart.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to make my partner feel miserable in
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a place unless we had to be there for an
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: emergency reason and there was a crisis, you know what
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, whether it's for him or like his family
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: or my family, I'd be like, deal with it. But
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to live in a place that I
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: loved so much when my partner was suffering and didn't
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: like it as much. That would be miserable because they're
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: gonna just be so unhappy.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just gonna it's gonna be present as you
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: move through your days every day. And that's just heavy
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: and it's a bummer. And I do think Luke hates it,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think he likes being here.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: It's not fair.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is us having the understanding that
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: he doesn't really like it. There cut to oh do
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you want to tell everybody what happened with watch what
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: happens live. The fact that he's emailing and saying, yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I'll come without Kristin and not having that conversation with
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: her first and saying or saying it in a different
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: way like, hey, you know, I it will be very
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: difficult to take the baby here. I'm going to talk
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to Kristin and see if one of us can go. Also,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: by the way, Luke, you don't really like it's Kristin
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: who's the star, not you.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Thank you?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: So you can stay home? Okay, you can stay home, honey,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: she can go to New York. Honestly, Like that made
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: me pretty irate, naucious. Yeah it did, though, I'm like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: my confidence, No, I mean, what what the hell is
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: wrong with him?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: A lot? He's just not suited.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Now, I will one hundred percent give him that taking
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the baby to New York for two days is a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: horrible idea. He's right, He's right, Okay, yes, everything else
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: dead wrong? What are you? Why are you emailing the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: contact over it at MBC again? Like what are you doing?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you know how quickly that person probably
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: yelled out to the whole room what Luke just said
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to everybody? This just in Luke hear me, hear ye,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: gather around this cod is now in session the common Wealth.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I'm watching too much of the Lindsay Clancy trial right now,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: God bless it. So what a jerk? AnyWho? All right,
• 30:16
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• 30:23
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• 30:29
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• 30:32
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• 30:35
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• 30:37
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• 30:39
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• 30:41
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• 30:43
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• 30:46
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• 31:21
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  Speaker 2: and let him know. I said, let's talk about Danny
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Nia everybody else, Janet, everybody.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the gang.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I thought it was an interesting point to
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: make that. You know. They were like you Janet and Jason,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you guys have defended Jacks, but you go after Danny.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's a really good point. Like Jack,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: they done Jacks, Well, they allowed so so they allowed
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: him to sh shoot in their house. But then we
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: got the rest of the story. Well, Brittany's like.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, actually he got a bloat my phot all day,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: So why don't you go out, have a boat for
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: your house and shoot with the So he does Rube
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: by Christmas.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: So apparently it was a conversation, So I was like, oh, okay,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: well that clears it up. But but for Janet has
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: been there in those in those rooms, in those back
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: rooms with Jack's and has had no problem, you know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you know, holding court with him and talking with him,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: getting information out of him and just playing playing a role.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: When this piece of shit has done you can't even
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: compare him and Danny. I mean, it's insane. So I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: think that is a very good point to some degree.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: But yep, on the flip side, Danny did seem to apologize.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: He seemed to be horrified. That was nice to see.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: And he did apologize to Janet for her experience from
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the fans, and she apologized to him, which I thought
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: was interesting too.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Very nice, and and everyone crying during that was emotional
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: because you know what should be fun, which it's like
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: if you had it on paper, you know, it's a
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: reality show. These are the fans, and then you're gonna
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: and then you just looked at it, and then you
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: said and some of them will threaten your life, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: some of them will say that you should die. It's like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what you know, it just does your pardon. Yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: it makes no sense to me, there is there is
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: something about the free for all where people can just
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: and strange.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: It's the strangest.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Like I heard one girl who was a therapist amy
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: back in the day, Back in the day with Bitch Sash,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: they had something called this this group the Thunderdome was existed,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: right and they were ripping people apart essentially like it was.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: They were like it was a bad group, Like would
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: not know it was. But I mean, it's a great title,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: but you know, it was an amazing book. It's an
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: abiest movie. They didn't make it up. Okay, I don't
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: give them that credit, Okay, but they were just vicious,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: you know, and it just heightened. And I one girl
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I saw on a thread, She's like, I'm a therapist.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: And I work really hard. I am talking to people
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: all day long. So yeah, you know what I'm going
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: to do. I am going to go in and I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: am going to rip apart h X, Y and z's this.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: And I was like, but I got a window into
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: She's like, it's a release for me and I am
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: going to rip this bravoleberty to shreds over this.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: That and the other.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And it's just like wow, Wow, you know there's a
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: psychology and you would go never a therapist, but there's
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: people who feel pressed against the wall in their lives
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and this is a way to claw back and gain
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: what feels like power to them by going in and hurting,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you know, and saying things that you could never say
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to anyone in your life.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Wow, you know this is deep, Deanna, it is that's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: really intense. And I'm fascinated by the therapist admitting that
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: in plain sight with her name or whatever her codd
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: name is. But yes, it's an honest it's an honest answer,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: and it does make sense. I mean, obviously, people who
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: speak ill, wilt about others to others and loudly and
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: harshly are clearly unhappy themselves. So she might want to
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: reconsider another job. I'll start there. But also I understand
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the lashing out, you know. And what's so upsetting is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that these are real people and even though we are
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: all watching these people like make mistakes and be delusional
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, do all these things that we discuss.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: The hate vitriol is where it has to draw a
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: line like the death thrust and the things that are
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I would never if I was on a
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: reality show. I would immediately get off of social media.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I would. I would probably have somebody control my account,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: but I would never allow comments. I would never allow it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I would think that they know that and they going
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: to get you different ways. Yes, probably, but I would
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I wouldn't look. I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't look.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Well, you have that, I mean you would have Heather
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: de Broke coming over and being like, Amy, you need
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: to We've got to get your social media together.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, you got to have a real thick skin.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: It's awful. It's really really sad. Yeah, it's so unnecessary.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It's like, get a grip. Oh, I just read what
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Luke said. I'll only go if Christen is not involved.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I need a break. That is so disgusting. I'm sorry.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I just saw that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: That is so disgusting. I need a break. To your employer,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the hell's Who's all right?
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Right? He sent that to Bravo.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: He sent it to Embassy Row, who is the production
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: company of who. It's a production company that produces Watcher
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Happens Live and they make all the travel arrangements, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: or he was talking to a PR person. I'm sorry,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: he could have been talking to a PR person who
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: is a Bravo employee, so I stand corrected. It could
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: have been a Bravo employee too. Any who, one more thing,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I again, Jasmine, she has got me and a tizzy
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: again with these comments she's making. And I don't you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want this for her in her future, but
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: she's bringing it on if she wants to have kids.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: She is presenting a karma in which I am frightened
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: for her.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, I did understand what she was saying,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: but she's did.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I get it. No. I I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: should say, probably should have said first Danny that being
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: his first line of defense always is bullshit. It's bullshit.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: But to try to dismantle not having sleep and sleep
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: deprivation and how that can't affect you in such intense
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: ways is like it's factually wrong. I mean, it just
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't even right. So that's that's annoying. But whatever, I mean,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the other the other side of the couch certainly disagreed emphatically,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: and so we're all fine.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it no, they were. It was listen. Her
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: her approach was completely incorrect. Jasmine was waitful to that yeah,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: it was totally wrong and it was challenging, and so
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, they absolutely rose up from the other
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: side of the couch as they should. But I just
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: feel like Jasmine almost feels to me like a kid
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: who is not is like number nine in the family
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: and can never get a word at edgeways. So when
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: she finally gets a word in, she like and it
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: comes out wrong and it's She's like, you know, there's no.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: There's no finesse to it, there's no set's the tough
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: part about being on a reality show. And she's still
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: kind of like trying to work her way into a
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: stronger position, which she should but sometimes should, but sometimes
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it doesn't always happen, Yeah, organically, and so you have
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to push harder. And I mean, I don't hate the player,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I hate the game. But one more thing before we
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: move on. When Janet was like Brittany and Janet were
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: talking about the Jacks thing and the Danny thing and
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: all this stuff, Brittany was explaining like.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Well, we were at a better place they had of
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: be you Jake's we're a better play. So it was fun.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Did you see what Kristin did. She leaned over to
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Luke and she goes, look at Britney's hands.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: What didn't that mean?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was like, are you a body
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: language expert? Like? What's happening? So my only guess is
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: like people have got to be talking about this online?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Is it that? That's what Britney's tell is when she's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: lying and Kristin clocks it because I can I bet
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you Kristin probably is a body language expert in her
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: spare time, Like you know, she's watching.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: I like that. I like that for her, I do.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: She was like clocked it. Yeah, So yeah, if anybody
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: knows about that, please let us know. All right, any
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: more thoughts on the Valley before we move on to
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: next gen?
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Now, except for that last beat has me real ready
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: for the next episode. I don't know what happened. Was
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Danny at their wedding? Yes right now, Yes he was there.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: So whatever happened was with Jesse. He looks shook to
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: the bone, and I would like Jesse to be handed one,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like he's been slipping
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: and sliding around, nothing's really stuck on him.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, Jess.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: It sounds like Jesse is the victim here. Oh it
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: sounds like Danny did something to Jesse.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: What could he have done to Jesse?
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Know, because they're like, this is yours, this is yours,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: like it's your story to tell. And that's why he's
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: like nothing happened, because he's always been protecting Danny, right,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: because you know, he wants me to be the bad. Okay,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: so everybody's looking at this age.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, I am very much whatever it is, I don't
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm open to any number of realities, and.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: I just can't wait.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I can't either. That was a great cliffhanger, great great reunion.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Andy had great questions, phenomenal Yes, all right, let's talk
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: about next Gen NYC. Though. This was the point of
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: the evening last night where I decided to take a
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: sidy to take a weed gummy.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Oh no, you did, Yes, you did. I did weed gummies.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I need them at the ready.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I need.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I have a stash that's way too powerful that a
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: friend gave me. I need a nice oh jill out gummy.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what I do with my I just like
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: to bite mine in half, or I even bite a quarter, like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: because I don't do it that often. So when I
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: do it, I really enjoy it, and I just I
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: love the experience I used to be. I used to
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: do ads for Loomy Gummies. Yeah, if my code still works.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: They pulled out the campaign, so I don't do it anymore.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: But Loomy Gummies are really good, and you can use
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: my code drama, or we can talk offline about some
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: other options. Okay, So I had a gummy and now
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I just I just loved this show on a gummy,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: like especially, but.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, am I crazy?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Or is it? Are they shooting this in? This episode
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: was completely different than any of the other ones in
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: that they were breaking the fourth wall constantly all the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: time while they were incorporating the Bravo con like everything acknowledging.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: You know, Shia. Shia was on the train and he
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: was sitting next to that lady and he's like, oh, yeah,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: we're shooting a reality show. Fourth wall broken down, talking
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: about how like being on a reality show is something
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: he didn't expect was going to be so intense, and
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: that his grandma warned him that it was going to
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: be so real. Ava tripping over cameras in the street
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: and like getting kind of pissed at them Arianna telling
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: producers in the park that she really likes Liam, like,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: this is all stuff that did not look.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: That's so true.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I mean he may have sprinkled it, but yes, I
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: think you know what, Amy, I think maybe the reason
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: they did that they do with this show differently than
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: any other show, and I like it. I like the editing,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I like the you know, sometimes they go a little
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: crazy with the transitions and stuff. But by the way,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: the montage Queen has all of those transitions.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I do want to let you know.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I do want you to know that that's important to
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: know because those are That's something that I love about
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: this show. I love the aesthetics. Yeah so if I
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: get that, you.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Dot com okay, so, but I think what made me
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: laugh about this episode was like so much any of
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: them have no clue what Bravo is. So many of
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: them really genuinely don't know Bravo. They don't know Bravo.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Khan like period, and.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Anyone who's mom was like, who yeahs, it's Bravo.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Right, Like anybody whose mom is not on Bravo on
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: this show, which is quite a few of them do
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: not have parents on Bravo. They don't know what they're on.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: They just don't they don't have to lay of the land.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: They don't have an interest, they don't care, and it's funny,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: you know, So maybe.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: That was Yeah, I think that hard of it. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: think that may have been part of it. I just
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: it wasn't so heavy handed in the earlier episodes. And
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I think that maybe they leaned into this because they're
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna be talking about Bravo Khn the entire time,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: so they kind of have to start breaking the fourth wall.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: And I think they should always do that. I mean,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I absolutely loved it, Like it's kind of like having
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: a blue per trail here and there, and they do
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: it differently, even like the Housewives who break it on
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: purpose now and do it's just also manufactured. Now, before
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: we move any further, Okay, when we are at Bravo
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Khan and they're out to eat and we need to
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: this is the headline of this episode, Deanna, can you
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: please share with the darlings why this episode was so
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: special to us?
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Darlings, when we have this episode up,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go into the comments. I'm a place
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: of photo and that photo is going to be of
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: me perched behind Gia and Ava at the restaurant because
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: I was there after the show. After Cabaremi, I met
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: up with my friend Christa Rosa at the hotel I
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: was staying in very convenient and you know, he's a
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Bravo producer and his friends were producing, and so we
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: were at I think it's Carmela's is the name of
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: the restaurant.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: I believe, maybe not, but I think so. And it's
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: this kind of.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a speakeasy vibe where they open the door,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: you'll they as you see in the show, and you
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: go kind of secret, you don't know what's back there.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's a whole restaurant.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: And right in front of us, we're you know, we
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: were sitting there and all of a sudden, the entire
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: gang of the Next Gen crew sits at the table
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: right in front, and we were like, are we going
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: to be on?
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: You could watch this show and not see me. You
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: gotta have your pause button ready and you know, ready
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: to execute. But I will put since I did have
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: my pause button ready, I'm gonna. I just took a
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: picture right before we get on that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: You and I posted and I posted on Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to send you a new that was Christmas friends.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I think I got a better pick.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Oh please, great, okay, good, good please, it's amazing. I
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: would love to Yeah. So that's Deanna's second cameo for.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: We'll see the first next week.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Don't know next.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Week is it is what I should be in the
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Ultimate Girls Trip background. So get your pause, buddy, and
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  Speaker 3: ready again. When Luanne comes out in a zip line,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: look to the right and you may say my husband
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: and I sitting there just taking it all in. Well, see,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: we don't know yet. Also, Chris de Rosa.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: You know we love you so much. Chris, thank you
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: for just seeing me and being you. I love seeing
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Rachel Roy facetiming with Ava and her just being like,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in, you know, supporting your kids or
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: else they won't be hard workers. I love that Ava
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: is like she's so young and she is really hustling.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's like, what are yeah bills and these
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: budgets and these percentages and these utilities, what are utilities
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: good for her? Her? That made me respect her so
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: much and her mother. Now I know I'm kind of
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: going back like yeah too, I'm sort of talking more
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: about like two episodes ago. Actually, so I apologize, but
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: in order to get to like the bravocon of it all,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: we had to kind of go back to those back
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: to basics there anyway, Georgia and Charlie, Okay, what are
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on where they stand here now and then
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: be a mirror situation. I mean, this is just such
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: a mess.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I know, well, it's interesting. Like I think Charlie and
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Georgia have a similarity to them. I think they're both hustlers,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they both are like looking to make
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  Speaker 3: things happen. And I say hustlers in a positive way,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: but I you know, I think Georgia. You know, I
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: don't know how positive Charlie's are, but I think Georgia's
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: are more positive. But I think they're both grinding and
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: looking for their next thing and wanting to make stuff happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so I think they're.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Similar in that way. Poor Amira definitely took a hit.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: She was collateral damage. I completely agree, and Georgia used
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: her and I hated that. I did not like that
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  Speaker 2: at all. That was not necessary the way that she
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: handled that earlier, which is by saying like since you
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: guys go back so far and you know a lot
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: of stuff. Can you just agree to not just tell
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: everybody about the deepest darkest I was like, damn, she
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: handled that well, especially like she must have.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Been and it hits like obviously her most sensitive area
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: to exist.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: So it she was so shitty.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: And luckily, like the last night's episode, Amir felt lighter
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: and like she was great. So I'm happy she sort of, yeah,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: seems to have worked through it. She has been friends
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: with Charlie for so long, and I do get that.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: It's like she's not going to throw eight years of
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: friendship away, yeah, for when she feels that Georgia was
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: using her. You know, yes, yes, so Charlie's getting the
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: benefit of that. I do think, and I think he
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: runs his mouth and I think he's a little gossip
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: by Bach and that loves him.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: On the show. He's you know, I just I can't
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: not have him on this show like he belongs. Yeah,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: it's great. So you know, Arianna was so excited about
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Liam and so now, okay, what are your thoughts on
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: this Charlie and Ariana situation?
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, god, damn it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: If he didn't call it like Liam doing this big
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: show of presenting her with sparkling waters and flowers, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Charlie said it, he goes, I've seen that nice guy
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: overdoing it. Act not work out for people, And I thought,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: you know what, you're a hater like Liam is so adorable,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: great personality. They are perfect together. He's yes, he's he's
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: romancing her.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: That's what we like. That's what she is putting in effort.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if he wasn't right, goddamn it in this episode
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: we see it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, shit, he is right. I know he
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: was goddamn right. You know, maybe.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: He'll be right about Crypto, and maybe he'll be right
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: about this restaurant that him and Omar are opening together.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: You know who knows.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if he's right about more than this.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: But you and and Ariana was absolutely uh enjoying the flirtation.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: And then she played herself. Was when she got when
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: she left her first class seat and went back to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: sit with him.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: You know, you played yourself because.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Now the entire cast, I mean, Michael ca at you sideways.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I mean I understand that she's probably flown in first
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: class a lot, but babe, no, no, that she you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: told on your self.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: You get told on yourself. But listen, she was in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: a very long term relationship.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: And she's gotta gotta play the field.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: And she was with a guy who had a ton
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: of money and was very demonstrative. So she may like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: the bad boy vibe and him talking dirty doer.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Who doesn't.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: It's I mean, she's got to try on the shoes,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: she's got to try on the dress. She's got to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: see what it feels like, you know.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: So it's fine.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: It's just that like this, Liam feels like a genuine
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: catch and like a good.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Idea for her, I know.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have thought that from the beginning. I'm like, oh,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: he's kind of he's probably a playboy. He was a
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: child actor. He's got this motorcycle, like you know, he's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: coming on too strong, and I just thought, But no,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I do think that he seems like kind of a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: good guy.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I guess more will be revealed, but he I don't
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: find it. I don't think he's love bombing or anything
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: like that. I think he's genuinely romantic and it's nice to.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: See it is. I love it. Well. On that note,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: we're going to wrap this up today. You guys, Thank
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you so much. And if anything stood out to you,
• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:13
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