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The Late Debate | 9 December · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait, gentlemen, welcome to the Late de Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Freier Leitch.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get through tonight, so let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about what's coming up.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to start a little later with Girl Guides Australia,
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  Speaker 3: doubling down on trans ideology after their counterparts in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: The side of the Girl's movement is shockingly only for
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  Speaker 2: girls plus. Victorian Council orders an old woman's.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful garden to be ripped up, deeming it a trip hazard.
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  Speaker 3: It had been there for forty years before they made
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  Speaker 3: this decision, and wannabe Santa's undergo inclusivity training before being
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  Speaker 3: given permission to take photos with kids in shopping centers.
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe it? All of that coming up soon?
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  Speaker 3: But first, Bonnie Blue, the porn star famous for betting
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  Speaker 3: a thousand men in one day, faces fifteen years jail
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  Speaker 3: after being arrested in bar She arrived on the Indonesian
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  Speaker 3: island at the start of schools and made no attempt
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  Speaker 3: to hide her intentions.
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  Speaker 2: Those that go into schools and those that are bare
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  Speaker 2: ilegal cannot wait to meet you.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm in Bali, so you know exactly what that means.
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  Speaker 3: She has since been arrested along with seventeen men while
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  Speaker 3: allegedly filming content. Now, as you can see, the men,
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  Speaker 3: fifteen of whom were Australian, weren't too keen to show
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  Speaker 3: their faces.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine why.
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  Speaker 3: It's been reported that Bonnie Blue may be prosecuted for
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  Speaker 3: allegedly breaching Indonesia's morality laws, and if found guilty, she
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  Speaker 3: faces a fine of more than half a million dollars
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  Speaker 3: and a prison sentence long enough to make her rethink
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  Speaker 3: her career choices.
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  Speaker 2: Then again, maybe not so.
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  Speaker 4: If I had my way, I would like criminalize most
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  Speaker 4: of what you do and you wouldn't have all this money, right,
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  Speaker 4: So obviously not personal in prison.
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  Speaker 3: Bonnie Blue, who was banned from Australia last year after
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  Speaker 3: inviting barely of age school leavers to have sex with
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  Speaker 3: her so she could post the footage.
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  Speaker 2: Online for money.
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  Speaker 3: Indonesia none too impressed, Freyer, And why.
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  Speaker 2: Would they be?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's so funny how Westerners go to
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  Speaker 5: Bali and they forget that Indonesia is eighty seven percent Muslim,
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  Speaker 5: and in twenty twenty two they enacted morality laws based
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  Speaker 5: around Islamic values that ban even things like sleeping with
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  Speaker 5: people outside of marriage, cohabitation before marriage, let alone what
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  Speaker 5: Bonnie Blue is doing, which is full scale pornography production
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  Speaker 5: and she's advertising it. So I can see why the
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  Speaker 5: Indonesia government was not too happy about that. I think
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  Speaker 5: she was completely naive and foolish to think she would
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  Speaker 5: be able to do that. But in many ways, Bonnie
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  Speaker 5: Blue is the end result of the sexual revolution. Sex
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  Speaker 5: has become just an act like any other. It has
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  Speaker 5: been turned into a commodity that you can buy and sell,
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  Speaker 5: and there is no moral value attached to it anymore.
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  Speaker 5: So are we really surprised? No? Do I support our
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  Speaker 5: Islamic morality laws?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 5: But am I happy that someone's finally stigning up to
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  Speaker 5: Bonnie Blue? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So you'd like to see her in the Slammer.
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  Speaker 5: I think it'd be pretty funny, and I think it
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  Speaker 5: would deter copycats, because that's the other problem. All of
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  Speaker 5: these young girls are now seeing how much attention she gets,
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  Speaker 5: and we're giving her attention right now, which is frustrating.
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  Speaker 5: But she makes headlines because she is so extreme, so
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  Speaker 5: people have to know this is not okay.
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  Speaker 6: She could do it somewhere else where. She's not going
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  Speaker 6: to get arrested, right, which is what she should have
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  Speaker 6: done in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: I'd make two points.
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  Speaker 6: One is Bali should probably understand who it's client tiller.
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  Speaker 6: So if you're going around making laws saying that you
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  Speaker 6: can't share people you're not married to, I mean, what
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  Speaker 6: do you think people go to Bali for?
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  Speaker 2: But that's not the law.
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  Speaker 3: The laws you can't produce pornographs material. There's a big difference,
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  Speaker 3: no of it.
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  Speaker 6: But there are other rules around six as well. But
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  Speaker 6: the other point is if you go to a foreign country,
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  Speaker 6: you play by a foreign countries rules, you know chappelle
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  Speaker 6: korby the Bali nine. I mean the Bali nine. I
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  Speaker 6: always found so strange because Australians were so upset about
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  Speaker 6: it and these men could face the firing squad and
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  Speaker 6: the death pill.
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  Speaker 1: Of course some of them have indeed, and it was
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  Speaker 1: all woe is us? How could this possibly happen?
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  Speaker 6: But like if you try to run drugs into a
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  Speaker 6: country where that's what they do to people who run drugs,
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  Speaker 6: you know the risk you're taking, don't you. Just as
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  Speaker 6: if you go to a country where it is illegal
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  Speaker 6: to make pornography, surely you know you are running the
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  Speaker 6: risk of ending.
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  Speaker 2: Up in shame.
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  Speaker 3: She not only knew the risk because don't forget, she'd
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  Speaker 3: been deported from Fiji as well. Now Fiji's not an
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  Speaker 3: Islamic nation, but they also deported her on public morality grounds.
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  Speaker 3: So she knew very well going to Indonesia this was
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  Speaker 3: going to be a problem. And yet she posted on
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  Speaker 3: social media, as we sure, advertising what she was doing.
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  Speaker 2: So this is just fragrantly throwing it.
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  Speaker 3: In the face of authorities and dare them to take
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  Speaker 3: the kind of action they have taken.
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  Speaker 2: I think she should be jailed for this.
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  Speaker 3: You can't literally go into countries boasting about how I
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  Speaker 3: am arriving here. I will break your laws and then
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  Speaker 3: complain when they hold you to account.
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  Speaker 1: I suspect she probably won't be.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they'll they'll let her go and tear up
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  Speaker 6: her visa and say you can't come back for ten
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  Speaker 6: years or something like that. But you know what, she
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  Speaker 6: got the publicity out of it. We've talked about it,
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  Speaker 6: and what more could she ask for?
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  Speaker 5: The one punishment the Balinese government should enforce on everyone
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  Speaker 5: involved in this is they need to publish the names
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  Speaker 5: and photos of all the men that they caught producing
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  Speaker 5: the material with Bonnie Blue. I think that would be
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  Speaker 5: punishment and yah, and very quickly deter anyone else from
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  Speaker 5: participating in Bonnie Blue's anti That's.
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  Speaker 6: Getting a bit puritan, isn't it that you should be
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  Speaker 6: you should have your name published because you had sex
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  Speaker 6: with a woman.
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  Speaker 3: No, but they cooperating in the production of pornography as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're being investigated for violating the law.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We should note those men were arrested but then let go.
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  Speaker 3: They might be brought in for questioning later, but at
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  Speaker 3: the moment it's only Bonnie Blue who's believed to be
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  Speaker 3: facing criminal charge to spect.
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  Speaker 6: When they get their hands back on their passports, they'll
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  Speaker 6: be out of Barley quick smart and maybe next time
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  Speaker 6: take a holiday in Australia instead, you know, go to
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  Speaker 6: Queensland or somewhere which is quite nice at this darmy year.
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  Speaker 6: You don't have to gross into a foreign country to
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  Speaker 6: have a nice holiday in the sun. It should be
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  Speaker 6: noted speaking of places that aren't quite so Sonny, let's
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  Speaker 6: head down to Victoria. Interesting case the ABC reported on today,
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  Speaker 6: and of course the way that you would expect the
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  Speaker 6: ABC to report on it about a transgender woman, so
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  Speaker 6: that he's a biological male who now goes by the
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  Speaker 6: name of Atomic Wilder. Now Atomic Wilder a couple of
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  Speaker 6: years ago went to police to report domestic violence and
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  Speaker 6: was feeling unsafe and wanted help, etc. Of course, this
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  Speaker 6: was July twenty twenty three, and said the police in
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  Speaker 6: Bendigo where he lives, were perfectly fine. But later a
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  Speaker 6: phone call comes through from the Department of Justice saying
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  Speaker 6: we will refer you off to a domestic violent support service.
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  Speaker 6: The only problem was the domestic violent support service was
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  Speaker 6: for men and they used the birth name, not the
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  Speaker 6: adopted name of Atomic Wilder. So Wilder then decides that
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  Speaker 6: this is an egregious breach of human rights and under
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  Speaker 6: the Equal Opportunity Act, decides to pursue the Victorian police
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  Speaker 6: through VCAT the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal. This case
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  Speaker 6: has gone on for two years now because the police
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  Speaker 6: have defended themselves against it and said, well, actually we
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  Speaker 6: were just dealing with the legal documents we had in
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  Speaker 6: front of US, which didn't atomic Wilder on them, it
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  Speaker 6: had the birth name on it and identified Wilder as
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  Speaker 6: a male, because certainly at this point in time, maybe
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  Speaker 6: different now, but Wilder was not legally recognized as a man.
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  Speaker 6: So the police, in effect, they argued, did the right thing.
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  Speaker 6: But they have now apologized and said we got it wrong,
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  Speaker 6: and we shouldn't have noted your actual sex and we
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  Speaker 6: shouldn't have used your birth name.
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  Speaker 1: Wilder says.
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  Speaker 6: It delayed access to LGBTQ specific services for four months
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  Speaker 6: for some reason or another. I mean, I don't actually
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  Speaker 6: get well a if you're in the position of suffering
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  Speaker 6: with domestic violence, I would have thought you've got bigger
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  Speaker 6: things on your mind than a phone. And I get
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  Speaker 6: it may have been offensive in the moment, but you've
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  Speaker 6: got bigger things on your mind and you've been offered support,
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  Speaker 6: so surely that is the main thing. Then the police
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  Speaker 6: have to go through two years of this in VCAT
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  Speaker 6: and then eventually apologize for doing what they thought was
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  Speaker 6: the right thing, with the legal documents stated.
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  Speaker 1: In front of them.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I found most curious about this story is
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  Speaker 3: the reporting of it by the ABC. The report was
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  Speaker 3: entirely sympathetic to Atomic Wilder, and that's no surprise.
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  Speaker 2: We talked last night about how the ABC is.
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  Speaker 3: Enthralled with the LGBTQ lobby group Acon, who they actively
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  Speaker 3: pursue for acknowledgment about how well they cover transissues, which
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  Speaker 3: explains why the reporter never interviewed a woman from a
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  Speaker 3: women's domestic violence center, asking what would you think about
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  Speaker 3: a biological man being offered support at a female domestic
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  Speaker 3: violence center?
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  Speaker 2: And would it be right for women.
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  Speaker 3: Who are victims of domestic violence to have to wait
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  Speaker 3: in line while a biological man.
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  Speaker 2: Is seen to first.
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  Speaker 3: The other question that wasn't answered in the report that
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to have an answer to is why doesn't
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  Speaker 3: Atomic Wilder, who may well be suffering from all sorts
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  Speaker 3: of threats, why did Atomic not ask for a third service?
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  Speaker 3: You've got men's support groups, women's support groups, why not
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  Speaker 3: advocate for something to be established to help transgendered people
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  Speaker 3: who are fleeing domestic violence? But it never seems to
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  Speaker 3: be the way. It always seems to be we demand
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  Speaker 3: to use a female space. So I guess this is
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  Speaker 3: what we end up with when we've got a government
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  Speaker 3: that refuses to define what a man or a woman
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  Speaker 3: is and a national broadcaster who seem more intent on
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  Speaker 3: maintaining their platinum status with Acon than reporting facts.
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  Speaker 5: I will say, though, there was one grossly offensive aspect
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  Speaker 5: of this case, and I think you know what I'm
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  Speaker 5: about to say.
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  Speaker 2: I know what you're going to say.
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  Speaker 5: Apparently, when Atomic Wilder were presented at the police station,
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  Speaker 5: he biological male. He had disclosed he was a trans woman,
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  Speaker 5: so a biological male, Yet the police still noted that
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  Speaker 5: they appeared pregnant or postpartum. Now, if you're going to
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  Speaker 5: have a complaine against the police, if they said I
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  Speaker 5: was pregnant or postpartum when I was a biological male,
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  Speaker 5: I would be asking some very serious questions.
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  Speaker 6: And in fact, Wilden noted in this story that science
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  Speaker 6: would dictate that I can't have children.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was quite ironic.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the irony is thick, right, So follow the science
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to asking if I'm pregnant, because I don't,
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  Speaker 3: though does Atomic look a little overweight? But ignore the
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  Speaker 3: science when it comes to determining whether I'm a male
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  Speaker 3: or a female.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have it both ways.
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  Speaker 5: And it's also frustrating because one of the conclusions of
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  Speaker 5: this case was that Victorian Police is now going to
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  Speaker 5: do a full system's review of all their policies to
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  Speaker 5: make sure this never happens again. I mean, it's such overkill.
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  Speaker 5: One why have they spent so much money defending this
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  Speaker 5: really inconsequential case. But why does one instance of incompetence
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  Speaker 5: mean you have to evaluate the whole system, spend even
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  Speaker 5: more money. Send everyone to culture.
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  Speaker 2: To the record for the record. I'm glad they defended it.
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  Speaker 3: They should defend They should not have sent this person
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  Speaker 3: to a women's refuge. I wish they hadn't conceded.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good point. Well, let's move on to
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  Speaker 5: the UK, where there is more transgender madness, this time
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  Speaker 5: a very strange ruling from a tribunal. A nurse named
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  Speaker 5: Peggy was suspended from her hospital in Scotland after lodging
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  Speaker 5: a complaint against a transgender doctor who was identifying as female,
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  Speaker 5: who she was forced to share a change room with.
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  Speaker 5: After she lodged that complaint, she was then suspended by
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  Speaker 5: the hospital. She's taken that case to a workplace tribunal.
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  Speaker 5: Some of her claims for harassment have been upheld. But
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  Speaker 5: what is extremely strange about This judgment was how they
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  Speaker 5: ruled on whether or not it was allowed or lawful
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  Speaker 5: for trans people to use a female space. Now you'll
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  Speaker 5: remember this year the UK Supreme Court has found a
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  Speaker 5: woman is a biological female, therefore women's spaces should be
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  Speaker 5: reserved only for biological women. But this tribunal judge seemed
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  Speaker 5: to be on a completely different plane of thinking. I guess.
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  Speaker 5: In the article, it says Judge Alexander Kemp ruled that
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  Speaker 5: it had been lawful for doctor Upton to use female
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  Speaker 5: changing rooms at Victoria Hospital in kirkle d Fife in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, both before Miss Peggy complained and after
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  Speaker 5: they were put on separate shifts. He said that the
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  Speaker 5: trans medics, feminine clothes, hairstyle and pronouns should have been
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  Speaker 5: taken into account before deciding which facilities should be made available.
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  Speaker 5: His ruling also said there was very far from sufficient
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  Speaker 5: relafe viable evidence to show that biologically male trans people
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  Speaker 5: pose a greater risk to women in female change rooms.
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  Speaker 5: It concluded that the ruling did not result in it
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  Speaker 5: being inherently unlawful for a trans female who was biologically
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  Speaker 5: male under the Act to be given permission to use
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  Speaker 5: a female changing room. So two key things here. One,
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  Speaker 5: what this judge is saying is it was only unlawful
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  Speaker 5: once Peggy complained, So once a biological woman decides to go.
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  Speaker 5: Hang on a second, I actually want MySpace for women only.
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  Speaker 5: At that point is it unlawful for a man to
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  Speaker 5: come into your space? And two the tribunal judge stated,
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  Speaker 5: you have to pay you have regard to how a
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  Speaker 5: transperson looks.
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  Speaker 2: What about having regard for biology or facts?
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  Speaker 5: So Susan Smith, the director of Four Women Scotland, this
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  Speaker 5: was the group that won the Supreme Court case, she said,
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  Speaker 5: we're troubled that old fact ideas of femininity run through
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  Speaker 5: this judgment. Biology is key, not the length of someone's
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  Speaker 5: hair or whether they wear makeup. We cannot understand the
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  Speaker 5: presumption that the application of the law is conditional on
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  Speaker 5: whether or not a woman complains. Women should not be
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  Speaker 5: placed in this invidious position. I mean, on so many
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  Speaker 5: levels this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder how many other things you could apply this to,
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  Speaker 6: Like if I go and break into your home tonight, James,
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  Speaker 6: can I say, Well, James, wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: There to tell me I couldn't go in there?
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  Speaker 6: Surely I'm entitled to walk into his output and eat
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  Speaker 6: his chocolate biscuits if he's not there.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way this thing works, isn't it. Because it's
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  Speaker 1: the same principle.
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  Speaker 6: How ridiculous to say that it is just not a
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  Speaker 6: baseline that a man's changing room or a woman's changing
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  Speaker 6: room is for men and for women individually, unless someone
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  Speaker 6: else says, oh, look, I don't really want the bloke
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  Speaker 6: coming into my change room. This needs to go to
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  Speaker 6: a higher court now. It has to be challenged because
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  Speaker 6: surely the ruling that came down from the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 6: that a woman is a biological woman should just be
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  Speaker 6: the baseline for everything.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how lower courts can start fiddling with that.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Because of that ruling, the Girl Guides Association in the
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  Speaker 3: UK has decided only biological girls can be part of
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  Speaker 3: the Girl Guides, which would seem to be a pretty
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  Speaker 3: sensible decision. But while Girl Guides in the UK are
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  Speaker 3: abandoning trans ideology, Girl Guides Australia seems to be doubling
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  Speaker 3: down on it. They released a statement on social media today.
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  Speaker 2: Let me read it for you.
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  Speaker 3: Girl Guides Australia's mission is to empower girls and young
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  Speaker 3: women to discover their potential as leaders of their world.
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  Speaker 2: So far, so.
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  Speaker 3: Good, But because in twenty twenty five common sense is
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  Speaker 3: a hate crime, we get the next sentence. All girls,
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  Speaker 3: cisgender and transgender welcome at Guides and we support their
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  Speaker 3: personal journeys. You can read our diversity and inclusion policy
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  Speaker 3: in the link in the bio. I tell you nothing
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  Speaker 3: says female empowerment like redefining female to include boys.
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  Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty two, the.
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  Speaker 3: Boss of West Australian Girl Guides was fired after only
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  Speaker 3: a few weeks in the job when she complained about
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  Speaker 3: the transgender policy, and as a result of that, the
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  Speaker 3: then chief commissioner of the Girl Guides, Rosemary Derwin, released
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  Speaker 3: a statement to The Australian where she said we don't
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  Speaker 3: ask parents is your daughter a trans girl or a
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  Speaker 3: biological girl, as that would be discriminatory.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Freyer, I would have thought, if you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to discriminate between boys and girls, don't call your group
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  Speaker 2: the Girl Guides.
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  Speaker 3: I don't call it people who like biscuits and badgers
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. By definition, when you call yourself backsides,
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  Speaker 3: you are going to discriminate.
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  Speaker 6: They'll have to sell the gender neutral biscuits stuff.
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  Speaker 5: The clue is in the name, and you're hardly creating
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  Speaker 5: leaders when you're not bold enough to stand up for
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  Speaker 5: reality and for biology. They are bowing to the woke mob.
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  Speaker 5: This is the problem. So many of these once great
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  Speaker 5: institutions have been captured by activists.
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  Speaker 3: How many parents do you, reckon, would send their girls
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  Speaker 3: to girl guides now knowing not only is that their policy,
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  Speaker 3: but they are adam it that is our policy, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: they posted that in light of the UK decision to
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: differentiate themselves and say no, no, we are inclusive of
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: all women, even those women who are boys.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: When was the last time anyone had the girl guides
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: knock on the door and try and sell them biscuits?
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: By the way, I reckon, not since I was a
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: kid have I had the girl guides come and knock
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: on the door. Maybe they're trying to work out whether
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: they can send out the boys or the girls to
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: do the job.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Who knows.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: We're talking about common sense and the lack thereof it right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: This story is just extraordinary and props to a current
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Affair for putting it to air last night because it
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: is a doozy. You know, I love a counsel story,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: and boy do I have.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: One for you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: This one involves Ballarat Council who is going after eighty
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: six year old a leader for her front yard, her
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: garden that she has been maintaining for forty odd years
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: because they say it obstructs a footpath that doesn't exist.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Take a look, Oh, I love my flowers.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Every day from nine to three you can find this
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: great great grandmother working in her garden.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It's just nice to do it. I like being out there.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: It's just the council doesn't agree. And then they were
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: on miss to take all lat out for goodness sake
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: here ridiculous. But the City of Ballarat has decided a
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Lada's garden is a threat to pedestrian safety, even though
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: in the four hours we filmed in her garden we
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: didn't spot a single pedestrian.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Apparently the council have had a complaint to say that
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: her garden is a trip hazard.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Oh it's a threat to pedestrian safety. I mean you
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: saw it there for your so all that grass and
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: the stepping stones and oh my god, that the flowers
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: and things people are going to trip over them, even
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: though apparently they haven't done so in the last forty years. Anyway,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: this is just how much of her garden they want
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: her to take away, including stuff that is nowhere near
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: this alleged pedestrian therapy.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: The city of Ballarat is demanding a Lada provides a
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: clear and continuous path. Now, I'd say this is clear
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and continuous, but it needs the path to be one
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: point five meters wide. Now Alada meets that requirement everywhere,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: but here where she's forty centimeters Shy council gave eighty
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: six year old Lader six weeks to move all fixed
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: items in her front yard.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: They said anything that could be moved should be moved.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: They want pot plants, bird bar statues gone, even though
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: they're well within the one point five meter rule and
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: not obstructing the footpath.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: And they would have to go into her garden to
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: trip over those items.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: When Alada failed to do this, they sent a fine
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: in the mail.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Five hundred dollars.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: They find this eighty six year old lady because she
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: won't rip up her beautiful front yard. I'm going to
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: give the last word to her later.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Bugger over, mind your own business and hope your lawn
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: is as good as mine.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, for foodness sake, tripping hazard? Has the Ballaratte
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: council got nothing better to do than harass old ladies
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: who look after their front yards, beautify the place, then
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: send her a five hundred dollars fine for doing so.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: What I don't understand about this story is apparently there
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: was a complaint back as far as there's in a
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: two thousand and two.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So what's that twenty three years ago?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So my question is why now, after twenty three years
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: suddenly bureaucracy motivated to move against this great great grandmother.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: What are they going to do? Send it a prison
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: if she doesn't pay the file?
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Oh, it is just such overkill. But it is so
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: symbolic of where we are with local councils. They receive
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: a single complaint for something that is utterly ridiculous and
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: that actually objectively adds value of the community. I'm sure
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: if they surveyed the neighbors. So, hey, you're the ones
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: that actually have to walk past here every day, how
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: do you feel about the garden? I would love to
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: live next to a garden like that instead of an
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: overgrown nature strip that the council never maintained exactly.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: And what sort of nutcases going around with the measuring
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: tape more in that section it's forty cent of meter
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: off what the regulation is meant to be. I don't
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: see what you're going to trip over there?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's grass, for goodness sake.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: So with one point five meters is the standard she's
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: left than one point one meter is to walk on. Now,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: unless you're the size of a bus, you should be
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: able to fairly navigate that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And then they're into.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: The stuff she's got like further back in the Garcao
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: statues and like what sort.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Of country are we living here?
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Well, actually she's in Victoria that more.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: But it's not just Victoria where this is happening. Over
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: in the UK, a reindeer farmer who has heard of
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: ten reindeer on her property could be forced to cull
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: the whole lot before Christmas. Her local council has designated reindeers,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: which are basically just deers with antlers right as dangerous
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: animals like cows. Yeah, cows with antlers.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: The fat of Christmas will taken.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: They put male reindeers in the highest possible threat level
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: for animals. Now, this means she is going to need
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: to keep tranquilizer dance on her property again with ammunition
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: and be ready to kill any runaway reindeer. Now keep
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: in mind, she has been operating this reindeer petting zoo
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: on her fourteen acre property with no incidences for fourteen years.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: The council received one singular complaint, and now she has
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: to go out and get a zoo license to operate
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: a petting zoo. We think it's just councils in Australia
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: that have gone mad, but clearly this is a global phenomenon.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Councils are funny, aren't they.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: They don't seem to do anything until they get a complaint,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: and the moment there's a complaint, they've suddenly moved to action.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And typically these.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Complaints are anonymous, they lack any justification, and they're almost
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: always about some banal, trivial matter that really is.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Bothered to nobody at all.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, a council that has left
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: that pothole, you know, unfilled for weeks, well you avoid
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: it every morning on your way to work. They're very
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: motivated to act, and this woman thinks that she'll probably
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: have to euthanize the reindeer because she won't be able
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to afford the licensing fee to start a zoo on
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: her farm where all she was doing it and many
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: of the people coming for the petting zoo were like
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: disabled kids and people wanting to experience a little bit
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: of Christmas cheer. But you can't keep a good bureaucrap down.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: How do you live with yourself doing this stuff as
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: a job, Like do you not wake up in the morning,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: go gee, I get paid to take the fun out
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: of life, and then go I can't possibly do this anymore.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: I think in some perverse way, they actually.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Enjoy doing it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: They enjoy the control, they enjoy telling people to follow
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: the rules.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: So there's certain people they love, you know, those people
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: love the rule book. COVID taught us that regulation twenty
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: three point to give them a check program.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: But also the problem is these jobs now exist. They've
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: got the job as reindeer enforcer police, the reindeer police
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: in Somerset Council, and so now they need to actually
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: enforce something to keep their job from being redundant. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: bureaucracies have to find things to bureaucratize in order to survive.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: Can you imagine if this poor bird in Somerset not
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: only had reindeer but also a front yard, she'd be
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: real problems and.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Would she She'd be in big trouble. Well, she doesn't
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: have a greyhound track. Sydney does, but maybe for not
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: much longer. Wentworth Park, which has existed for g greyhound
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: racing for about ninety years, is set to be bulldozed
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: as the government want to turn it into parkland to
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: support the nearby development of about twenty five hundred homes.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Premier Chris Mins said to the media this is how
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: we build a fairer and more balanced Sydney. It's hard
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: to understand how you make Sydney fairer by bulldozing a
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: site that's been used for ninety years by people who
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: love greyhound racing. But Caleb, I'm going to get you
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: to defend the greyhound racing industry here because I was
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: trying to find out today how many people actually attend
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: greyhound racing. It's very difficult to find numbers, but back
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, the Daily Telegraph reckoned that on average
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: there are about one hundred and twenty paying eight attendees
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: at a greyhound racing event. If that's true, or if
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that's say that's five hundred people attending an event, how
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: do you justify such a huge slab of land in
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the middle of Sydney that could go towards recreational spaces
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: for far more people and support housing desperately needed.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: How do you justify not bulldozing it?
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: Well, that is probably true a lot of the time.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: But when you have a big event like the million
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Dollar Chase or something, Wentworth Park is full of I've
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: been there on those nights. It's absolutely chocolate block. The
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: same is true of Randwick and rose Hill. I mean
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: you go to Randwek on any old old Saturday, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: I've been on any old Saturday.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: There's two men and a dog in there.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Basically they'd be lucky to get one to three thousand max. Maybe,
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: But of course when the everest is on, when the
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: championships are on, the place is pack. That's just the
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: way these things work. When it comes to sport. I mean,
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: you know the MCG when they've got women's cricket on
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: has probably got five thousand people in it and it
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: takes one hundred and twenty thousand, and we don't say,
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: knockover the mcg.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: The idea that this is fair.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Of course, what he means is that this is a
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: sport I don't particularly like, and therefore I would like
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: to raise the joint and turn it into grounds on
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: which people can play sports that I like a little
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: bit better. The Labor Party, of all parties, should be
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: the party that supports greyhound racing, because it is, apart
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: from horse racing, generally a working class sport. And I've
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: owned horses, or to own horses, and jumps horses and greyhounds,
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: so I've sort of got the whole game, and i
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: haven't quite gone off into the trots. But greyhounds are
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: generally a working class endeavor. And even if you don't
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: have millions of spectators in Wentworth Park all the time,
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: there are dogs being trained there, There are dogs being
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: trialed there. There are dogs running there two or three
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: nights a week. That is, by the way, generating money
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: through tax from people gambling that flows back into the
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: state government.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You get rid of this. The closest track I.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Think is at Richmond in terms of the closest to Sydney.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: All it's saying is no, actually we're going to knock
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: this place over because you dirty greyhound working class people
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: should give over your land so that we can put
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: up more dog box apartments in the inner city for
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: miserable people to live in, and we'll give you ten
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: million dollars in compensation for doing so, so you can
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: do up some other tracks. Ten million dollars ain't going
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: to go far. It is an abandonment of the Labor
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: Party people.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry, Look, this is just ridiculous. This site
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: is massive, it is in a prime location. It's right
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: next to the New Fish markets, it's near a metro,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: it's near a light rail. This is the kind of
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: place we should be having high density housing. We have
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: a huge problem with housing supply in Sydney. If you
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: want to go watch the greyhounds, that's fine, but go
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: out to Richmond. Don't take prime real estate in Glebe
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: because it could be used so much more efficiently for
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: housing for families who would otherwise be without a home.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: What I don't like is that you're asking the greyhound
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: industry and those who enjoy it to pay the price
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: of poor government planning, whether it comes to zoning, whether
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: it comes to immigration, whether it comes to future planning
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: of developments. You're asking them to pay the price for everybody.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: This is always going to happen. When you make the
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: transition from a small city to a global city, real
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: estate near the city becomes a lot more value. And yes,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: when this track was built eighty years ago, this piece
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: of land was in the docklands. It was very poor.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: It was probably not worth much at all.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: But the time they should get credit for being visionaries. Fret.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: And now it is a niche sport. There are only
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: seven other countries in the world that even allow dog racing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: This is not the future. The future is we need
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: more housing.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: It's a funny.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Growth betting market for a niche sport, I should say.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: The funny part about this story, Caleb, is that the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Men's government are going to turn it into parkland.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: The problem is the part of the council won't allow
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: any major events to be held in.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Parks because climate change means the glass won't of course.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: From heavy foot traffic.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: So the condition is that the council must relax their
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: prohibition on festivals being held in parklands in order for
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: the Council to oversee this property.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: And it just annoys me that this men's government keeps
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: trying to take productive land that is being used by
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: other people for other things and turning it into housing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Of course, he tried it on with the horses he
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: was in rose Hill into houses and failed to do that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Then turned his attention to Glebe Island, which is the
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: only remaining working port in Sydney, which most people think
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: is stupid because of course, then you.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Can get either Kembler or Newcastle.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Then you put it on a truck and spuughout the issues.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Now he wants to go after Wentworth Park.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Why don't you just go and find some land somewhere
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: else that isn't being used and build your dodgy apartments.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: So the difference is Wentworth Park is leased from the government.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: This is not land that they own. It's not the
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: same as rose Hill when members had to vote on it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: So it's government land. It's going back to the government
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: and it's been repurposed into something that is useful for
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: way more people than greyhound racing.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: Well that's well, I don't know they'll be all sitting
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: in those apartments beating on the greyhounds on the app anyway,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Santa or Father Christmas, I prefer to call him Santa
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: is an americanism, isn't it. But anyway, if you take
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: your kiddies down to see him at the shopping center,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: which of course you might be doing at this time
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: of year, and the kid throws a tantrum, and I
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: think we've all seen this, haven't we, where the kid
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: doesn't want to sit on Santa's lap for whatever reason.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, it's quite something when you
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: got this big man with a big white beard and
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: a big red suit and the camera's flashing and what
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: you understand why a kid might be a bit unsure
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: about all of that.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And I think anyone of.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: My vintage or certainly your vintage James who went through that,
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, Mum just told you to sit on his lap.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: And if the photo had you crying, you got the
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: photo with the kid crying, it's not okay anymore. They've
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: been put through training. The Father Christmas is there's a
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: mob called a Book of Santa. They're one of the
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: companies that sends around the Santa Cluses and they put
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: their stuff through training this year so that you can't
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: force kids to sit on you, or next to you,
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: or on your knee. You must keep your hands in
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: view at all times lest someone accuse you of touching
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: the child.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: They've also been.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Told, which I think is rather sad actually, but they've
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: also been told not to assume that a child has
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: two parents, and not to assume the gender of those parents.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Santa has to go woke.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: In case Kitty gets offended that he says, how's mum
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: and the kid says, well, actually, I've got two dads.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: The Santas have all also been told to be mindful
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: of children from economically disadvantaged families, which would pretty much
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: mean every child in the country right now.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right. Well, it does just show you that
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: hr training it comes from everyone.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: What do you think though?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: In this story, a psychologist talked about how it's not
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: good for parents to post photographs of the child if
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: the child cries on social media, because we forget that
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: child will grow up and then they'll see the photograph
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: of themselves as a toddler crying, and that's another to
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: be traumatized.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Really get over people, It's seriously, that's one of the
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: funny parts. It's nice to look back and say, oh,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: there I was burrowing a tantrum. Good thing, I don't
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: do that anymore.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: The other funny thing about this is etiquette lessons for
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: a bloke whose sole purpose in life is to sneak
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: into people's home, and they're worried about training him in
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: etiquette and how to be polite.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: That is quite funny.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: How quickly before we get to the break, Deloitte, of course,
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: the big economic firm. They say we should bring back
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: inheritance tax because in Australia death duties were sort of
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: done away with piecemeal after Jobioki Pederson got rid of
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: in Queensland in nineteen seventy seven and all the oldies
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: flocked up to Queensland, and the states realized that they
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: were losing revenue as a result, so everyone got rid
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: of the death duties. But Deloitte put out a report
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: saying we should have federal death duties. They want it
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: set at ten percent for assets above one hundred thousand
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: dollars because of course the budget is so stuffed they
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: so we need to find other ways to raise the money,
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: and that's how we're going to do it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: A barren better than taxing people is just cutting spending.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: With that of veo well, We're.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Going to take a break, but when we come back,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: if you have trouble managing your budget, wait until you
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: hear how much the Tasmanian state budget has blown out
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: in just the past three years.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Plus Labour's renewable only fantasy facing more trouble, Surprise, surprise,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: all of that more in.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Just a moment. Well, welcome back to the program.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: we had to start with a fascinating story on the
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: front page of tomorrow's Gold Coast Bulletin.
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  Speaker 6: Caleb, oh boy, don't accuse us of not bringing you
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: hard news, because it says on the front of the
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Gold Coast Bulletin tomorrow man's far violent attack on massage
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: parlor unwanted ending.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: This sounds interesting, isn't it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: A Gold Coast man who claimed he received an unwanted
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: happy ending at a massage parlor returned.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: The following day armed with a.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: Gel blaster and Jerry cans before assaulting the owner pistol,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: whipping her friend and setting the business alight. A court
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: has heard this chap has pleaded guilty to doing all
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: of this. By the way, Apparently he went in to
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: deal with some backsortus and then the massus just sort
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: of you know, got down to business as it were,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: and refused to stop, he said, despite his protests to
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: the contrary, So he thought he'd go back and shoot
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: the joint up and set it on fire.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: What why did he not just go to the local
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: police station and make a report that might have been
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: a little more sensible, or.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Leave a one star Google review. I think there were
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: many steps he could have gone through to voice his
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: distress before going back and committing a crime, indeed, but
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: a very interesting one there. Over in the Australian Tomorrow,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: the headline is reality for Alp in coal light of day,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Cole will need it will be needed to be stayed
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: to stabilize the energy grid until twenty forty under an
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: extraordinary twelve year extension of the fossil fuel that threatens
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Labour's net zero target as the green energy revolution leads
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: to a one hundred percent explosion in power transmission costs.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: In a one hundred and fifteen page document that mentions
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: net zero just once, the Australian Energy Market Operator has
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: warned that wind is increasingly becoming too expensive and there
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: is a risk the nation is overbuilding transmission lines through
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: rural and regional Australia. Well, there you have it, guys.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Coal will have to be extended for the sake of
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: our grid, and renewables are actually way more expensive than
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: we thought. Who would have thought?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: And when Chris Bowen is confronted with this, his response
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: is to ignore it and instead talk about the factory
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: that more and more people are embracing batteries and rooftop solar,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: and then he pulls out that old line, we had
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: a decade of climate chaos under the coalition government.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: We lost a decade. They keep saying.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: It's that they never went confronted with all of the
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: problems with their renewable rollout. They never addressed those problems.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: There's fall back on their talking points and on we go.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: And the great travesty is that all of this is
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: so obvious.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: We knew it was coming.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: We tried to go too hard, too fast on renewables.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: We're seeing the result of that, and now we are
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: the ones who will have to pay to fix it
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: when none of it needed to happen in the first POM.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: You actually forgot the number one line Chris Bowen and
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: leaving users James renewables are the cheapest form of energy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: They will just repeat that, and someone's got to ask Bowen,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: what data point will it take for you to concede
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: that that is false? Because we're hitting many records for
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: power prices, but still no concession. Also in the Australian Tomorrow,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: unrepentant Annika Minister clears herself as Green's catch family frequent
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: flight fever Anaka Wells has referred thousands of dollars in
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: taxpayer funded flights taken by her husband and children to
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Parliament's Expenses Watchdog, as three Green senators face scrutiny for
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: using these same entitlements to fly family members to a
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Palestinian protest and music festivals. The move follows damaging revelations
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: over the communication Minister's family travel claims, which included flights
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: to three AFL Grand Finals, two Boxing day tests, a
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Threadbow ski trip and the Formula one Grand Prix, with
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: the controversy threatening to overshadow Anthony Albanesi's rollout of Labour's
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: landmark social media band for children are overshadowed indeed it
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: already has. But I just love this the Greens, what
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: do they use these taxpayer funded flights for fly their
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: family members to Palestine protests?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Why this is the thing? Right?
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Obviously it's not just Anika Wells. A lot of people
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: have been playing this game because it is currently within
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: the rules apparently, and you know, I've said before it's
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: only a rut if you're not in on it, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: they're all in on it seemingly well.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: The other funny thing about Anika Wells is that now
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: all of these social media posts that she produced when
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: in opposition criticizing it then government for their travel. I
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: was going to say roots, but as you say, it's
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: not really a well it's within the.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Rules, right, I think we can but consider it a rule.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Hypocrisy is being laid bare.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: But I agree with you for the most interesting part
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: of this story to me is that Greens would use
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: family reunion funding to fly everyone into a pro Palestine.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Just about indoctrinating the next generation, building up the next
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: generation of Greens emerge.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Are we really surprised?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of Tomorrow's Herald Sun.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: They of course are going with the start of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: social media ban for under sixteen's let us Be Kids,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: reads the headline. The article says, the world will be
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: a better and safer place from today. It's a big
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: call for Australian children like these boys and girls from
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the nineteenth Campberwell Scout Group. Australia is the first country
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: in the world to ban social media accounts for kids
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: under sixteen. The new law as a result of the
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Herald's Son and News Corps powerful Let Them Be Kids
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: campaign and the determination of a group of parents whose
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: children died due to harmful social media. The PM said
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: this change is for those.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Parents and for all parents.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Obviously, there's been debate ad nauseum over the last number
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of months as to whether or not this ban is justified,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: whether or not it will work, what effect it will
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: have on people's privacy. I suppose we'll see over the
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: coming months, but it's.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Begun, certainly has and you know the problem will be
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: I get it will probably empower some parents to be
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: able to say, look, the government said, you can't have
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: the social what kind of parent?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: You can't tell your child no without invoking the albanizi
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and hiding one.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Why this is the thing.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: It should be apparent and THEESS says I want you
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: to go on YouTube.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: But really fair, a lot of parents probably didn't realize
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: how bad social media was. It's like smoking used to
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: not be considered that bad. Some people thought it was
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: actually healthy. My dad growing up in South Africa started
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: smoking at twelve years old. I mean that was just normal,
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: and his mum was a doctor. So I think we're
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: going to look back and see social media as a
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: similar thing for kids.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Indeed, on the front of the Mercury down in Tezzi
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: tomorrow it says two point seven million.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Dollar health fraud probe.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: The state's order to General Martin Thompson has highlighted an
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: alleged multimillion dollar fraud. In a report the chose government
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: departments had overspent f onily two and a half billion.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Dollars in the past three years.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Mister Thompson found the Department of Health overspent by one
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: point thirty seven billion and included two alleged frauds, a
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: case of suspected in correct billing worth two point seventy
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: three million and time sheets fraud which was still under
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: investigation by the department two and a half billion dollars
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: in over spending. You can only do that when you're
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: playing with other people's money, can't you.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: It's just incredible.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: How you can blow a budget by that much I
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: cannot understand.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: And Tasmania is not a very big stage. We've got
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: to look at that as a percentage of the overall
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: good point, which is pretty grim. Over In the Townsville
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: bulletin tomorrow, the headline is Pokemon goes wrong. Gamer bashed
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: robbed in a McDonald's attack. A man was catching Pokemon
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: in a McDonald's car park before he was attacked and
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: threatened for money by two strangers. Townsville District Court on
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Monday heard Darryl Mark when twenty five and an alleged
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: co offender started the attack by first shouting at the
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: man in the Atkinvale car park catching Pokemon there we go.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Didn't realize it was such a risky activity.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Of all the dangers it's up there, I didn't realize
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: it was still an activity.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I thought that fad died a long time ago. Quickly.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: The Adelaide Advertiser has got a great photo on the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: front page. That's the English captain Ben Stokes taking selfies
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: with kids on the beach at Noosa as the English
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: team prepare with great determination for the third test. Of course,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: they trail Australia to nil in a five test series
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: and you can see they're how they're warming up.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: And that's what the kids said. You know when you
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: take a photo, when you say cheese, do you reckon?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: The kids went too nil?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, on that note, we're going to go
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to a break.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: But when we come back, more ashes misery for the
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Poms and Australians being offered a massive discount on their
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: bit if they take a SICKI in honor.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Of Bob Hawk that coming up next.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program, now, Caleb, I wouldn't have
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: thought ossies needed any encouragement to take a sickie.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: But there is another one if you needed. Of course,
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: you will remember these famous words from former Prime Minister
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Bob Hawk.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I tell you what any BUSU sacks anyone but not
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: turning up the day as a bump.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: And that now extends to his birthday because today, the
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: ninth of December would have been Bob Hawk's birthday. And
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: so the brewery that is named in his honor, Hawk's Brewing,
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: has decided or did decide that today if you rocked
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: up to the brewery and bought a part or a schooner,
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: and you could prove that you had taken a sickie.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: You chucked a SICKI get Bob Hawk's birthday off, they
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: give you your beer half price.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: What a ripper.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: They've also sent out a list of other dates they
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: recommend that you should chuck a sicki and try to
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: come and get your half priced beer. Apparently they are
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: all sort of organized around public holidays and things.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Look, it'd be enough to get me to try and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: give them.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Why Andy, you only told us about this after the
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: day was over. Well, I've come here tonight I could
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: have been having half rus.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: How are you going to prove the sicky you're here?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't know who's doing their pr stuff, because that
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: is some first rate marketing ripper, isn't it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Right there?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the English cricket team, more ashes misery
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: for the Poms. There's a young eighteen year old kid,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Tommy Lamb, who decided he was going to travel from
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: the UK to Adelaide to watch the third cricket Test
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: without flying on an aeroplane. So he spent more than
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: one hundred days traveling through deserts over mountains on toktooks
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: trains ferries. He landed in Singapore but has been unable
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: to find a boat or a cargo ship that can
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: get him to Australia on time. So he's finally conceded defeat.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: I'm now aiming from Melbourne. I'm not going to make
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: it to Udly because of the nature of the next
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: leg of my journey. Every way imaginable to try and
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: find myself a boat that will take me to Australia
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: from anywhere in Southeast Asia. It simply has not been possible.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I got to say, if the English cricketers had shown
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: as much determination as they they wouldn't be too kneel
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: down on the series and they could have been relaxing
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: at looser justified.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: But there you go.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of effort, by the way, for that
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: kid to watch his cricket team get night but.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: Didn't get to the next video will be Look, I'm
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: aiming for Sydney because I didn't make it to Melbourne.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: It's it's a difficult to have well it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: It does give you some faith that we've really done
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: a good job cracking down on people smugglers he's been
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: completely unable to get on any votes to Australia. But
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: over in the US, guns were fired at Ronald Reagan
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: International Airport. No, not real guns, just RFK and the
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Transport Secretary in a pull up competition. They want to
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: make airports more family friendly and also encourage healthy habits
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: and people to even exercise in mini gyms before heading
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: on planes. Look, I admire RFK. He's seventy years old
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: and can still do twenty pull ups. I mean, that's
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: pretty impressive.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: But the Transport Secretary, Sean Duffy was saying a week
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: or two ago that people needed to dress better.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: To the airport.
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: I fear that if they put gyms in, people will
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: all rock up in their activewear.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: That's a very good point. You can't have both, So
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: there you go. Anyway, that's America for you. That's all
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: we've got time for tonight. Thanks for your company, stick Around.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Coming up in just a moment is the reader Penny Show.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Good Night,