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Chuck & Buck 7-9 Hour 2: The Decision part II, ABC's of the Mariners and should we add a Willson? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Kind of nice hands a little bit, this is dropping
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Speaker 1: shallow and that it's a clean catch from Luke Raley
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Speaker 1: who throws back to second base and that's a double play.
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Speaker 1: So Noha was off to the races and Luke Raley
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Speaker 1: just laid out and makes a spectacular catch and wipes
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Speaker 1: away that leadoff double.
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Speaker 2: It was spectacular, boos. It was real and it was spectacular.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. Was the Terry Hatchrick catches.
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Speaker 2: I felt like I just had a spider on my forehead.
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Speaker 2: I was in here like this.
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Speaker 3: Uh might right, I was in the dark. I probably
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Speaker 3: would infestation.
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Speaker 2: That's what happens here.
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Speaker 3: I'm dealing it for long.
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Speaker 2: We got the power back on time.
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Speaker 3: Um, all right, good morning to you. It is the
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Speaker 3: seven o'clock hour. We move into our number two coming
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Speaker 3: up a little bit later on ABC's of the M's
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Speaker 3: and More. We got Jonathan Mayo today at eight o'clock.
1:07
Speaker 3: We got our favorite local comedian, Dustin Nickerson joining us
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Speaker 3: today at nine o'clock, so we'll get a few ha haas.
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Speaker 3: I'll bet you he's handled this Mariner season like just
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Speaker 3: so smoothly. I bet you he's not been worried or
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Speaker 3: bothered or angry about anything.
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Speaker 2: Bet he's as cool as a cucumber.
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Speaker 3: He didn't.
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Speaker 4: He watched that game last night and he thoughts we
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Speaker 4: didn't need to beat Miami anyway.
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Speaker 3: Bet you he's having the time of his life watching
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Speaker 3: Mariner baseball this year. Yeah, because that's that's how he does.
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Speaker 3: He takes it in stride as a Seattle.
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Speaker 2: Sports sure does. He doesn't overreact.
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Speaker 3: No, no, never has any snarky things to say. So
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Speaker 3: he'll join us today at nine o'clock. Mariners do lose
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Speaker 3: last night, it will start our frost brewed cors like
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Speaker 3: choose chill headlines. Two to nothing to Miami just kind
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Speaker 3: of a pathetic night of approaches at the plate, in
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Speaker 3: my estimation. And then of course to not use either
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Speaker 3: of your challenges, especially in the ninth inning when there
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Speaker 3: were two pitches and two really pivotal at bats that
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Speaker 3: were clearly outside the strike zone, and we just kept
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Speaker 3: those two challenges in our back pockets. Very frustrating for
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Speaker 3: marin Or fans as they watch their team fall back
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Speaker 3: to forty seven and forty six, still above five hundred,
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Speaker 3: still in first place at this point, but four more
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Speaker 3: games against a couple of pretty good teams on the
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Speaker 3: road before you even get to the All Star break,
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Speaker 3: and you do not want to limp into the All
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Speaker 3: Star breaks, so that might require you to win today
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Speaker 3: and not get swept by the Miami Marlins. Pitching matchup
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Speaker 3: Ryce Miller for US and Jamison Junk. We'll pitch for
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Speaker 3: the Miami Marlins here today. First pitch is going to
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Speaker 3: be at three point forty again, and then they'll start
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Speaker 3: a series in Tampa against the Rais.
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Speaker 2: He does have a really good name, James Junk.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if it's a fastballer. Yeah, Psychologically people are
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Speaker 3: looking for the curve ball because his name's jamis him junk?
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Speaker 3: And then he throws one hundred and.
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Speaker 4: Three And then when they talk about him and his stuff,
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Speaker 4: they don't call it his stuff, they call it his junk.
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Speaker 4: And then everyone's sitting there talking about Jameson's junk.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well typical, I say, we kick him right in
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Speaker 3: his Jameis and Junk tonight, do it. Let's do it.
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Speaker 3: MLB Draft is in two days. We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 3: that with Jonathan Mayo today at eight o'clock. World Cup
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Speaker 3: resumes today. Quarterfinals are here. The final eight, the best
3:23
Speaker 3: eight France taking on Morocco today at one o'clock and so, yeah,
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Speaker 3: tell me here we go. Yeah, let's get a nice
3:31
Speaker 3: big upset there. And Wimbledon continues this week. The finals
3:36
Speaker 3: will be held this week and a summer tradition goes
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Speaker 3: all the way back to when I don't know what
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Speaker 3: it was, but my Aunt Ruth would always come into
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Speaker 3: town for like a week in the summer, and it
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Speaker 3: would always be Wimbledon. It would always be like the
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Speaker 3: Wimbledon finals and everything. I don't know if she did
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Speaker 3: that on purpose so that she could take a week
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Speaker 3: like vacation and then watch and have time to watch tennis.
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Speaker 3: And then again, I don't know why anybody would take
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Speaker 3: a week vacation and go to Brighton, Illinois either watch tennis,
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Speaker 3: because there was always some crappy weather and my dad
4:08
Speaker 3: was always on the fence about whether or not we're
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Speaker 3: going to turn on the air conditioner. No, no, he
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Speaker 3: made exceptions for his sister. But yeah, that's why I
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Speaker 3: always go to I don't know what it is like,
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Speaker 3: I go to potato Salad and Aunt Ruth. I like that.
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Speaker 2: I have a special connection with Wimbledon.
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Speaker 4: But of course that's because of my family, Like we
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Speaker 4: would always go to visit my family in England after
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Speaker 4: school got out, so we would always be there during
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Speaker 4: Wimbledon time, and so I remember I'd always be sitting
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Speaker 4: on the floor in my grandmother's house watching Tim Henman.
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Speaker 3: Tim Henman see ours was? Uh this dates me obviously.
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Speaker 3: Jimmy Connors, Oh yeah, because he was from Southwestern Illinois,
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Speaker 3: which is where I grew up. And my Aunt Ruth
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Speaker 3: would always go on and on about Jimmy Connors, what
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Speaker 3: a crush he has on Jimmy Connors. And I still
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Speaker 3: to this day, because my aunt Ruth has since passed,
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering, Okay, were you just saying you had a
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Speaker 3: crush because you didn't think that the ten year old
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Speaker 3: of me could handle that you hooked up with Jimmy Conners.
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Speaker 2: And she can never answer.
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Speaker 3: I can, I'll never know the answer. But there was
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Speaker 3: part of me even then like you've hooked up with him,
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Speaker 3: haven't you? Yeah? You and Jimmy Connors.
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Speaker 2: I like, let's think that, go, Aunt Ruth, Yeah, get it?
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Speaker 3: Girl, A dirty bar in Bellevue, yeah, get it? And
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Speaker 3: not Washington, w Illinois, Yeah of course. Yeah. All right,
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Speaker 3: So good morning, to you all. We got ABC's of
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Speaker 3: the M's coming up a little bit later on this hour,
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Speaker 3: but I wanted to spend a little extended time on
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Speaker 3: The Decision Part two, not quite getting the hype that
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Speaker 3: the Decision Part one is getting, but Lebron James getting
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Speaker 3: ready to make his decision on where he's going to,
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Speaker 3: we think, finish his career, how he's going to write
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Speaker 3: the last chapter, and apparently everything's on the table at
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Speaker 3: this point, far different than the Decision Part one. And
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Speaker 3: so I want to go back to the Decision Part
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Speaker 3: one because I'm sure there were other moments in my
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Speaker 3: broadcasting career, but the two that come to mind where
6:12
Speaker 3: I just personally thought that the American sports fan was
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Speaker 3: being grossly unfair to the player number one, Sammy Sosa,
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Speaker 3: when he testified on the steroid on Capitol Hill, and
6:30
Speaker 3: people still to this day killing, oh, you forgot how
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Speaker 3: to speak English all of a sudden, And I'm like,
6:36
Speaker 3: wait a minute, if you were in Washington, DC fighting
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Speaker 3: for your legacy, you'd choose your second language that you
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Speaker 3: were strongest at.
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Speaker 2: Pretty sure i'd speak the language I'm most comfortable in.
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Speaker 3: Exactly like this is going into record and they can
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Speaker 3: you say something one way because you think that's the
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Speaker 3: way it's said and it comes off something else. Because
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Speaker 3: you are okay English, but not as good as you
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Speaker 3: are speaking Span. You're not gonna choose the language that
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Speaker 3: you're best at when you're trying to fight for your legacy.
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Speaker 4: Not to mention, yeah, you're under pressure, you're stressed out right, like, yeah, No,
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Speaker 4: I would never.
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Speaker 2: I would never fault somebody for that.
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Speaker 3: Well we did as a country of sports fans crushed
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Speaker 3: Sammy Sosa for that. Now. I mean he was obviously
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Speaker 3: guilty as could be.
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Speaker 2: Right, No, don't but don't fault him for that part.
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Speaker 3: But don't fault him for like you would go in
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Speaker 3: that situation. You know what, I've been taking a few
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Speaker 3: classes in Portuguese. I'm gonna go Portuguese on that law.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's let's try it out.
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Speaker 3: A attorney at law. You know what. I know your advice,
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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go ahead and go with my second
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Speaker 3: best language. I really mind.
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Speaker 4: I took French for a long time in middle school
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Speaker 4: and high school and actually some in college too, so
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Speaker 4: I'd prefer bonjour jam Mappel Ashley.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And meanwhile, like some Congressman's like, did you just
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Speaker 3: ask me where the bathroom?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly, I'm like, and I'd be going in between
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Speaker 4: different languages.
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Speaker 2: I'd be like YoSoy.
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Speaker 4: I, you know, I just I'd go back and forth
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Speaker 4: between Spanish because I took some of that.
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Speaker 3: Of course, that's what you would do if you were
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Speaker 3: really trying to get your point across, right, you'd speak
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Speaker 3: your second to third best language. So I always thought
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Speaker 3: we were unfair to Sammy in that capacity, and I
8:21
Speaker 3: still to this day, and I know a lot of
8:23
Speaker 3: people are going to disagree with this. I had not
8:27
Speaker 3: only did I not have a problem with Lebron's the decision.
8:32
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine life at that time without having
8:36
Speaker 3: that sort of a spectacle. I mean, it was the
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Speaker 3: biggest free agency announcement in the history of American sports.
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Speaker 3: And there's not a close second, not even a close second.
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Speaker 3: This was a guy that from age fourteen, Sports Illustrated
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Speaker 3: called him the next Michael the Messiah, like from age fourteen,
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Speaker 3: and then he lived up to that hype. He went
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Speaker 3: straight from high school to the pros, and he lived
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Speaker 3: up to the hype. Most people crumble under that hype
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Speaker 3: Ashley probably knows Todd Marinovich he crumbled under that. Bryce
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Speaker 3: Harper rose to the occasion. I'll give Bryce Harper credit.
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Speaker 3: He's turned out to be a great baseball player, great career.
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Speaker 4: You can count the number of people that have made
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Speaker 4: it on not as many hands as the number of
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Speaker 4: people that have not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and under that kind of scrutiny. Unbelievable. So he
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Speaker 3: lived up to the hype. And then he spent three
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Speaker 3: years as a professional basketball player. Three years people don't
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Speaker 3: remember this. Where every place that he went, fans held
9:45
Speaker 3: up signs saying sign here. I mean, everybody knew that
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Speaker 3: there was free agency coming, and for three years, every
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Speaker 3: stadium he went, people were trying to recruit him. So
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Speaker 3: why were we surprised that he thought that was going
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Speaker 3: to be a big deal. Not to mention, if it
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Speaker 3: would just have been Lebron saying, hey, I'd like to
10:13
Speaker 3: have a show to announce. No, the NBA had to
10:16
Speaker 3: endorse that, the network had to endorse that. I meant
10:21
Speaker 3: to look this up. I'm gonna have to do this
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Speaker 3: on the fly. How many people watch? Oh god, the decision?
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Speaker 2: I'm sure a bajillion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to just do this actively. No, I
10:32
Speaker 3: like ten million people, nine point nine million people.
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Speaker 2: No one cared.
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Speaker 3: Viewership peaked at thirteen point one million to just watch
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Speaker 3: a free agent announce where he was going. And yes,
10:44
Speaker 3: there was certainly self serving aspects about it, and certainly
10:49
Speaker 3: we all felt for Cleveland that why did you have
10:52
Speaker 3: to put Cleveland on blast? That's your hometown team, they
10:55
Speaker 3: love you. I mean, certainly there were some things about
10:58
Speaker 3: it that didn't really well even with me, that didn't
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Speaker 3: set well with me. But in terms of was there
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Speaker 3: a market for that, was it warranted? Oh? Hell yes?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't want it to happen any other way.
11:14
Speaker 3: I mean, but then again, I like it when the
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Speaker 3: top college recruit has a puts a hat on. I
11:20
Speaker 3: like the draft. I like it when draft when you
11:22
Speaker 3: get drafted, and I like how big it's become. I
11:25
Speaker 3: enjoy that stuff. So maybe I'm a little bit different.
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Speaker 3: But I personally not only didn't have a problem with
11:32
Speaker 3: the decision, a big problem with the decision. I thought
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Speaker 3: it was a thousand percent warranted. That's how much interest
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Speaker 3: was in that decision. So why not make a show,
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Speaker 3: thirty minute show about it that thirteen million people at
11:48
Speaker 3: one point were watching Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, we tuned in. I remember watching it.
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Speaker 4: I think the only thing that I didn't like about it,
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Speaker 4: or the only part where I faulted is where I
11:58
Speaker 4: faulted him, is because I felt like the.
12:01
Speaker 2: Using Jim Grade a host, well, yeah, that was okay.
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Speaker 4: So there were two things that I felt to him for,
12:06
Speaker 4: but it was it seemed like the whole thing was
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Speaker 4: set up for him to say, I can't leave my hometown.
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Speaker 2: I'm going back to Cleveland.
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Speaker 4: Like that's how I felt like, You're just gonna make
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Speaker 4: these people's day. You are setting this up to say, like,
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Speaker 4: I'm still gonna be like your hero.
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Speaker 2: I would never leave you.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't even in sports at the time that this happened,
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Speaker 3: and I was doing comedy in Phoenix, and I remember
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Speaker 3: all day long, like waffling back and forth like I
12:38
Speaker 3: had your thought, and then I would be like, no,
12:40
Speaker 3: he's gotta ly, he's gonna leave and he's going to
12:42
Speaker 3: Miami and it's gonna piss people off. Yeah, because he's
12:46
Speaker 3: gonna go build a dream team like all that, and
12:49
Speaker 3: so I waffle back and forth with it. But I
12:51
Speaker 3: am telling you, I spent the entire day, like like
12:56
Speaker 3: you would for a big, big game or a big match.
13:01
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure i'm home. Yep, I'm not gonna
13:04
Speaker 3: I wasn't even in sports at the time, and I'm
13:06
Speaker 3: gonna make sure in front. I'm in front of my television.
13:08
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna answer anybody's phone calls. I'm here to
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Speaker 3: watch this. And nine point nine million other people felt
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Speaker 3: that way, and apparently nobody wanted it, right, Yeah, aparely.
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Speaker 3: Apparently it was a stupid idea and it was a
13:22
Speaker 3: selfish move on his part. Why would anybody do this, Well,
13:25
Speaker 3: because we've never seen a free agent like this, and
13:29
Speaker 3: you were obviously interested and you watch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and was it self serving? Absolutely? It was that
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 4: It was all of those things, and that's okay. It
13:37
Speaker 4: didn't have to be one. You know, he wasn't just
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Speaker 4: doing it for us, and he wasn't just doing it
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Speaker 4: for Cleveland, and he wasn't just doing it for himself,
13:44
Speaker 4: and he wasn't just.
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Speaker 2: Doing it for the network.
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Speaker 4: It was all of those things all combined, and that's
13:48
Speaker 4: why people were so interested. And yeah, I had taught
13:51
Speaker 4: I had convinced myself you'd set the whole thing up
13:53
Speaker 4: so that he could make this city of Cleveland just.
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Speaker 2: That in the state of Ohio just that much happier
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Speaker 2: and just save them.
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Speaker 4: And when he said I'm taking my talents to South Beach,
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Speaker 4: I just remember going, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, what?
14:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I didn't like the line.
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Speaker 2: It was terrible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like the line. I didn't think he
14:10
Speaker 3: had to say it that way. But that was a
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Speaker 3: copy of Kobe. Kobe had said that at one point
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Speaker 3: earlier in his career that he was taking his talents
14:18
Speaker 3: to the NBA when he announced that he was going
14:21
Speaker 3: from high school to the NBA. That was his press conference,
14:23
Speaker 3: got it, and people forget about that. Yeah, you know,
14:27
Speaker 3: he's the one that said it. First. He had his
14:29
Speaker 3: high school press conference and he was supposed to announce
14:31
Speaker 3: what college he was going to, and he said, I'm
14:33
Speaker 3: taking my talents to the NBA. So it was a
14:35
Speaker 3: direct ripoll.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that makes it actually worse.
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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I don't like that. There are
14:41
Speaker 3: certainly aspects about it I didn't like, but overwhelmingly, was
14:45
Speaker 3: it warranted to have a thirty minute show to make
14:48
Speaker 3: the biggest free agent announcement in the history of American
14:51
Speaker 3: professional sports. Yeah, I do believe that it is. So
14:54
Speaker 3: now we get to decision number two, which apparently he
14:57
Speaker 3: is on the verge of making. And obviously this isn't
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Speaker 3: anywhere close to the same Lebron James that made the
15:03
Speaker 3: decision to take his talents to South Beach. This is
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Speaker 3: somebody at the end of his career. This is going
15:08
Speaker 3: to be the last chapter of his career, we're assuming.
15:12
Speaker 3: And what's really fascinating about this is this might be
15:15
Speaker 3: the purest free agency announcement that we've ever seen, because
15:23
Speaker 3: this is already somebody that is worth like a billion
15:26
Speaker 3: dollars and who has already announced that this last. Because
15:31
Speaker 3: he's always said in the past, if anybody thinks I'm
15:33
Speaker 3: taking a pay cut, they're out of their minds, right,
15:36
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm not going to undermine my value
15:39
Speaker 3: just because fans want me to do that. So that's
15:42
Speaker 3: been the stance that he's taken in the past, but
15:44
Speaker 3: this time around, he's like, no, the priority here is
15:46
Speaker 3: to be happy. The priority here is to find the
15:50
Speaker 3: right spot to finish my career and just enjoy basketball.
15:55
Speaker 3: I want to go out having enjoyed the game.
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Speaker 4: Play where I want to play, not because like not
16:01
Speaker 4: have somebody not be able to afford me, because right
16:04
Speaker 4: I'm asking for too much.
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Speaker 3: So this is not going to be based on finance,
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Speaker 3: isn't Almost every free agent decision has been based on
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Speaker 3: finance throughout the history of free agency. I'm sure there
16:14
Speaker 3: are some exceptions. I'm sure there are a couple of
16:16
Speaker 3: outliers out there. Andre Dawson famously gave the blank check
16:20
Speaker 3: to the Chicago Cubs. But this is Lebron and his
16:24
Speaker 3: decision here. Apparently he's willing to take minimum salary here,
16:30
Speaker 3: So he really is, if we're to believe the stories,
16:34
Speaker 3: he is going to choose the place that he thinks
16:37
Speaker 3: is going to make him happiest, the place that is
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Speaker 3: going to give him the best farewell send off of
16:43
Speaker 3: his career, and everybody apparently is in the running. Yeah,
16:50
Speaker 3: I mean, with those sort of rules, those sort of
16:53
Speaker 3: parameters set, he can fit on any roster if he's
16:57
Speaker 3: taken minimum, even if somebody's in terrible caps in situation.
17:00
Speaker 3: And so from that standpoint, I mean CC Sabathia once
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Speaker 3: chose his free agency. He told everybody, here are my
17:09
Speaker 3: two priorities. I want to play in the National League
17:12
Speaker 3: because I want to hit and I've never got to
17:14
Speaker 3: hit before being a guardian. I like doing it when
17:17
Speaker 3: I was with the Milwaukee Brewers because he could hit.
17:20
Speaker 3: I want to hit, and I also want to go
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Speaker 3: back to the West Coast. So what did he choose?
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Speaker 3: The Yankees?
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Speaker 2: Of course, the West coastiest team there is.
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Speaker 3: The East coast team that invented the DH. Yeah, all right,
17:31
Speaker 3: and so that's what CC Sabathia chose. So so many
17:34
Speaker 3: people don't really choose the place they most want to
17:38
Speaker 3: go to. They let all sorts of other factors pollute
17:42
Speaker 3: their decision, including their agent's wishes, and then they end
17:46
Speaker 3: up making the best business decision. More often than not,
17:49
Speaker 3: we're supposed to believe this on its face, He's making
17:52
Speaker 3: this decision based where do I want to play? How
17:56
Speaker 3: do I want to finish my career. I'm getting ready
17:59
Speaker 3: to write the final chapter or two of the Lebron
18:03
Speaker 3: James basketball career. Where do I want it to be?
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Speaker 3: And from that standpoint, I have no idea what he's
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Speaker 3: going to pick, and I find it fascinating. Now, I
18:13
Speaker 3: don't think it warrants a thirty minute television.
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Speaker 2: Please don't do that please don't do that.
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Speaker 3: And I don't want him, for his own sake to
18:19
Speaker 3: do that, and I don't want to see that. I'm
18:21
Speaker 3: not going to tune in for a thirty minute TV
18:23
Speaker 3: show to find out where you're going to play.
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Speaker 2: But that Twitter announcement would be great.
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Speaker 3: That is apparently not in the works here, So we'll see.
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Speaker 3: There are some people saying that it might happen as
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Speaker 3: quickly as today. Wow, I just heard this morning that
18:36
Speaker 3: he's already made up his decision. It's just a matter
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Speaker 3: of how do I want to present it and win?
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Speaker 3: And so we'll see. Maybe Lebron decides decision number two
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Speaker 3: before the end of the day today. But I'm interested, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm interested.
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Speaker 2: I'm interested, but I'm glad I don't I'm glad there's
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Speaker 2: no TV.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need and I don't want Jim Gray
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Speaker 2: Is I gonna have to give you the Heimlich? No,
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Speaker 2: not that kind of choke, just like tvile in your throat.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little spittle or something kind of sucked back
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Speaker 3: in the wrong way. But it looks like I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: survive it. Thank you for all your well wishes.
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Speaker 2: That was a close call.
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Speaker 3: The cards and the letters and the flowers, it meant
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Speaker 3: a lot to me.
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Speaker 4: I'm glad because I wrote half of them. M Oh
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Speaker 4: really yeah, just in the last ten seconds of thinking
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Speaker 4: you were gonna check?
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Speaker 3: Why did you ruin that for me? I thought I
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Speaker 3: and people do like that. Yeah, we got the Mariners
19:39
Speaker 3: losing to the Marlins yesterday by a final score of
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Speaker 3: two to nothing. And we do have our alphabet to
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Speaker 3: go through. Where's it going to take us? We are
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Speaker 3: at the letter you, and you's gotta be today for
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Speaker 3: unacceptable And there are a lot of things. Man, the
19:54
Speaker 3: firing fan of Major League Baseball, they want somebody's head
19:58
Speaker 3: after every loss. Yes, are going to be at least
20:00
Speaker 3: sixty of them every season. And yet man, people act
20:05
Speaker 3: like it's the Apprentice, like somebody has to be fired
20:08
Speaker 3: after every show.
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Speaker 2: Forgot that show.
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Speaker 3: No, it's like the somebody's torch has to go out.
20:13
Speaker 3: It's you know survivor everybody a torch has to go
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Speaker 3: out after every loss.
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Speaker 2: Yes, someone's gonna get voted out.
20:20
Speaker 3: Uh so we get we get a little carried away.
20:24
Speaker 3: Certainly as a talk show host, I get a little
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Speaker 3: carried away at times, and sometimes we go even beyond
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Speaker 3: the line that we probably should. That goes beyond a
20:34
Speaker 3: prudent approach to a long, arduous baseball season. But I
20:38
Speaker 3: will say this this one, I will say without a
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Speaker 3: shadow of a doubt, keeping two challenges at the end
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Speaker 3: of the game walking home after a two to nothing
20:51
Speaker 3: loss and you have not used a challenge, that alone
20:54
Speaker 3: is unacceptable that tide of a game. Not just hey,
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Speaker 3: let's just roll the dice here, it's just our last
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Speaker 3: desperation play, or at least well at least going to
21:05
Speaker 3: use one of these two challenges before to go home
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Speaker 3: with two after a two nothing loss. Is if you're
21:12
Speaker 3: going with one, I get that you saved it for
21:16
Speaker 3: the ultimate emergency and maybe we're going to need that.
21:20
Speaker 3: And it's funny to me because everybody when we first
21:24
Speaker 3: introduced abs challenge, everybody thought, well, finally we won't have
21:28
Speaker 3: like a walk off controversy like we had in the
21:31
Speaker 3: WBC now that we have abs, like, are you kidding me?
21:34
Speaker 3: How many games are you going to keep one challenge
21:37
Speaker 3: so that you can challenge the very last call of
21:40
Speaker 3: the game. Well, if somebody did that just to be safe,
21:44
Speaker 3: if the game broke that way, that you end up
21:46
Speaker 3: with one challenge but two in your pocket unacceptable. And
21:49
Speaker 3: then the way that it went down to not challenge
21:52
Speaker 3: the last called strike of the game that was clearly
21:57
Speaker 3: a ball when Luke Ranley had already passed on challenging
22:02
Speaker 3: one earlier in the bet, that is unacceptable. And I
22:05
Speaker 3: blame Cole eighty five to ninety five percent. I'm going
22:08
Speaker 3: to blame the players eighty five to ninety five percent,
22:11
Speaker 3: But as Ashley and I discussed early in the show,
22:14
Speaker 3: I also am going to lump in every coach and
22:18
Speaker 3: definitely the manager on this because it was very clear
22:22
Speaker 3: that players were not reminded, and I actually think you
22:26
Speaker 3: should be reminded. Yeah, even doing an annoying stamp. Yeah,
22:29
Speaker 3: we got it. I know, I know, I know. I mean,
22:31
Speaker 3: my mom is a kid had to remind me every day,
22:34
Speaker 3: even though that was my only job to take out
22:36
Speaker 3: the trash, she still had to remind don't forget to
22:38
Speaker 3: take out the trash. Don't forget we have two challenges
22:42
Speaker 3: before the ninth inning. It is unacceptable not to have
22:45
Speaker 3: shared that information. It was unacceptable for those hitters to
22:48
Speaker 3: go to the plate and not know, Hey, if in doubt,
22:52
Speaker 3: I'm going to call this. And it was absolutely unacceptable
22:55
Speaker 3: to go home last night with two challenges in your
22:58
Speaker 3: pocket when they were two your ball calls that were
23:01
Speaker 3: called strikes in the ninth inning of a two to
23:03
Speaker 3: nothing baseball game. So maybe I have overreacted to some
23:07
Speaker 3: things over time. I know all of you have that
23:09
Speaker 3: are listening out there, but that is unacceptable.
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Speaker 4: I fully agree, And especially in the situation where Cole's
23:18
Speaker 4: at two to two on his count, everyone in the
23:21
Speaker 4: entire dugout should be yelling it. You have two challenges
23:25
Speaker 4: because you know this next pitch, this next call could
23:29
Speaker 4: be a massive changer, like a massive game changer. You
23:32
Speaker 4: could either strike out or you could get an extra bat.
23:35
Speaker 4: That's a big damn deal, And then you still would
23:38
Speaker 4: have one more challenge.
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Speaker 2: What if that's the difference.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Luke should have challenged first. Luke should us well,
23:44
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have burned it. Luke should have used it
23:46
Speaker 3: got ahead in the count one to zero instead of
23:47
Speaker 3: been in a down a one, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, and then yeah, and then Cole's got two still
23:52
Speaker 4: because Luke would have won it. Yeah, And so when
23:54
Speaker 4: he's at two to two, everyone should have been yelling
23:57
Speaker 4: it and he should have used it on that one,
23:59
Speaker 4: and then he could have got and another pitch if
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Speaker 4: that was even close. You challenge that one. That's the
24:03
Speaker 4: difference between getting on baser ending the game.
24:05
Speaker 3: Well, he's capable of hitting a two run homer. That's
24:07
Speaker 3: all you are that right there. You're just looking for
24:10
Speaker 3: a pitch to hit and maybe the next one, is it?
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Speaker 2: Right?
24:13
Speaker 3: And for you to walk off the field on a
24:16
Speaker 3: clear ball call when we have abs challenge and you
24:19
Speaker 3: have both challenge unaccepted. Yeah, I just unaccepted, agreed. Vas
24:23
Speaker 3: four ver Lander, Yes, an arch nemesis of ours over
24:27
Speaker 3: the years. At times I still thank him, mostly as
24:31
Speaker 3: a Detroit Tiger, But of course he pitched for the
24:34
Speaker 3: Astros and was very good against us, very aggravatingly. But
24:39
Speaker 3: yesterday announced this will be the last year. He's just
24:41
Speaker 3: had too many difficulties with injuries. He's in his forties
24:44
Speaker 3: right now, he's already put together a Hall of Fame career.
24:48
Speaker 3: But I use the term, and this is a Chuck
24:51
Speaker 3: Powell original, I use this all the time. To be
24:55
Speaker 3: achieve greatness when there's this much competition, at this high
24:58
Speaker 3: of a level, you have to to be born with
25:00
Speaker 3: great abilities, you have to have great opportunity, and then
25:04
Speaker 3: once you get that opportunity, you have to pursue greatness greatly.
25:08
Speaker 3: And Justin Verlanders certainly ended up being great. He's a
25:12
Speaker 3: surefire first ballot Hall of Famer. Yes, that we had
25:16
Speaker 3: to deal with far too many times. I heard a
25:19
Speaker 3: story last night. I don't know if everybody else was
25:21
Speaker 3: watching the ESPN did the broadcast last night. They had
25:25
Speaker 3: a doubleheader last night, and they just happened because Verlander
25:28
Speaker 3: was in the news. They brought up Justin Verlander. Adam
25:31
Speaker 3: Outovino is a former teammate of Verlanders with the Mets,
25:35
Speaker 3: and he gave this great story and he caught everybody
25:39
Speaker 3: off guard. It was such a great story that they
25:41
Speaker 3: were going to break. They were going into the half
25:43
Speaker 3: inning and Karl Ravitch comes back, like, we got to
25:45
Speaker 3: tell that again and start from the beginning. So the
25:48
Speaker 3: story was that Verlander did not have one of his
25:51
Speaker 3: best outings, and he was so upset by his slider
25:55
Speaker 3: that he went in. He started to undress and he
25:58
Speaker 3: just couldn't handle it anymore. So in his jockstrap and
26:02
Speaker 3: only his jockstrap, he starts throwing sliders into the couch
26:07
Speaker 3: that was in the clubhouse. Starts throwing He just got
26:09
Speaker 3: done pitching a game, and he's like, he was so
26:12
Speaker 3: pissed off about his slider that he starts throwing sliders
26:15
Speaker 3: into the couch cushions until he wasn't going to shower
26:20
Speaker 3: until he snapped off a few of them and it
26:22
Speaker 3: felt good again. So here he is in the middle
26:24
Speaker 3: of the clubhouse, naked, throwing full scale, ninety two mile
26:28
Speaker 3: per hour sliders in a full naked people all around
26:33
Speaker 3: him into the couch cushions sixty feet away from the couch,
26:37
Speaker 3: and Ottavino says, and the funniest part about it is
26:41
Speaker 3: Pete Alonso comes out of the shower, He's completely naked,
26:45
Speaker 3: dripping with water, and sees what Verlander is doing, doesn't
26:49
Speaker 3: even bat anine, and he says, do you need me?
26:51
Speaker 3: Somebody needs somebody to stand in and Verlander goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:56
Speaker 3: So Alonso stands there naked while Verlander is naked throwing
27:01
Speaker 3: sliders into a couch until he gets the slider down.
27:04
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's funny and I casual person.
27:08
Speaker 2: So now I'm picturing it and laughing.
27:09
Speaker 3: That is now, that is, that's greatness. That is. I
27:15
Speaker 3: am not going to go home until I have the
27:17
Speaker 3: feel of my slider. Yeah, I am not leaving this ballpark.
27:21
Speaker 3: I'm not even going to shower the stink off of
27:24
Speaker 3: me until I've got the feel of my slider. And
27:27
Speaker 3: then other teammates recognizing, oh, this is greatness and action,
27:30
Speaker 3: I'm gonna help.
27:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, here, how can I help?
27:32
Speaker 3: Sir? That's great? Finally, w is for a while we
27:36
Speaker 3: are waiting, So apparently the Brendan Donovan wait is going
27:39
Speaker 3: to be a little bit longer. I'm just gonna throw
27:43
Speaker 3: this out there, like we're getting ready for an All
27:45
Speaker 3: Star break. If Brendan Donovan's not ready to go by
27:48
Speaker 3: the start of the second half, I'm ready to call
27:50
Speaker 3: Las Montes up.
27:51
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, he's looking good.
27:53
Speaker 3: Why not? I mean, he said twenty five home runs
27:56
Speaker 3: in the first half. I mean, the only reason you
27:58
Speaker 3: might not bring him up is because Donovan's here do
28:00
Speaker 3: we really need another left handed hitter. Let's give him
28:02
Speaker 3: a little more seasoning, but this offense obviously needs a jolt.
28:07
Speaker 3: I thought Donovan might be able to provide it. But
28:09
Speaker 3: if it's gonna take him a little while longer, let's see,
28:12
Speaker 3: let's just put Montes in the damn lineup coming out
28:15
Speaker 3: of the All Star break, and I know it's another lefty.
28:19
Speaker 3: I don't care. Donovan's another lefty. And then once Donovan
28:22
Speaker 3: comes back, now we're if Montes sticks, now we're even
28:25
Speaker 3: deeper at the position. So while we are waiting on
28:28
Speaker 3: Donovan and it looks like we're gonna have to wait
28:29
Speaker 3: a little while longer. Then, man, I got a guy
28:33
Speaker 3: that is on pace at fifty home runs in the
28:36
Speaker 3: miners right now. I think I'm ready to pull the
28:38
Speaker 3: trigger on that.
28:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd like to see him up.
28:40
Speaker 4: And it's not like we're getting any information on Donovan
28:43
Speaker 4: other than it's been a long time and it's going
28:46
Speaker 4: to be longer. It's like that asphinder. If I'm not
28:48
Speaker 4: back in five minutes, just wait longer. That's what it
28:51
Speaker 4: feels like.
28:52
Speaker 3: All right, Well, speaking of w's, you might be tired
28:56
Speaker 3: of the Wilson that we have, but what if we
28:59
Speaker 3: added another Wilson. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
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Speaker 3: all right, coming up at the top of the hour,
29:16
Speaker 3: Jonathan Mayo is going to join us MLB Draft coming
29:19
Speaker 3: up in two days, and he's a very busy man,
29:22
Speaker 3: so we're kind of lucky to grab him if you
29:24
Speaker 3: are interested in those things at all. We'll also talk
29:27
Speaker 3: about Las Montes, since I brought him up in the
29:30
Speaker 3: ABC's of the MS today. Jonathan also an expert on
29:33
Speaker 3: the prospects as well, so we're going to do that
29:35
Speaker 3: today at eight o'clock. But I want to stick in
29:38
Speaker 3: baseball right now because I have a feeling, I mean,
29:43
Speaker 3: there are people out there that believe, well I know this,
29:46
Speaker 3: we have at least one too many Wilson's as it is, Yeah, Weston,
29:52
Speaker 3: I think everybody could probably do without.
29:55
Speaker 2: Especially after the other night.
29:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Dan. I don't know if too many
30:00
Speaker 3: people are real happy with Dan Wilson as our manager
30:03
Speaker 3: right now. So the idea that I'm floating out the
30:05
Speaker 3: possibility of adding another Wilson when you're already probably sick
30:10
Speaker 3: of the two we have may not go.
30:13
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, who are we att But.
30:17
Speaker 3: There has been a lot of chatter about Wilson Contreras
30:20
Speaker 3: and adding him at the trading deadline. Now he's like
30:23
Speaker 3: Luke Wilson. He spells it with two l's, so this
30:25
Speaker 3: is a different type of will Oh, yeah.
30:27
Speaker 2: We're good with those kinds of wire with to L.
30:29
Speaker 3: Wilson, Yeah, all right, well, yeah, we're perfectly good. Then
30:33
Speaker 3: this is a two L Wilson. H Yeah, I think
30:36
Speaker 3: you're tired of the got tired of the Russell one
30:38
Speaker 3: one L Wilson's just aren't working for Seattle right now.
30:41
Speaker 3: But to L. Wilson's, Yeah, that's the secret sauce right there.
30:46
Speaker 3: Uh well, this is really curious because he might be
30:51
Speaker 3: since Byron Buxton the Twins are in the playoff race
30:54
Speaker 3: and he has no trade clause and he's on the
30:56
Speaker 3: injury list again, that was going to be the number
30:59
Speaker 3: one potentially on the market, but more things are stacking
31:03
Speaker 3: up against that happening, and now all of a sudden,
31:06
Speaker 3: Wilson Contreras might be the guy. The Red Sox are
31:08
Speaker 3: playing better as of late, but I don't know if
31:12
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to catch up with the
31:14
Speaker 3: rest of the group. But Wilson Contreras is having the
31:17
Speaker 3: best year of a very good career and obviously makes
31:22
Speaker 3: a bit of a salary eighteen to twenty million dollars
31:27
Speaker 3: right now to play for the Boston Red Sox, and
31:30
Speaker 3: that might be something that shrinks John Stanton beneath the
31:33
Speaker 3: desk to pay that kind of salary to a player
31:36
Speaker 3: who signed through twenty twenty eight. But in terms of
31:42
Speaker 3: you know, can he punish a baseball, he absolutely can.
31:45
Speaker 3: Is he having a good season? He absolutely is. However,
31:48
Speaker 3: when you take on Wilson Contreras, you take on a
31:53
Speaker 3: personality like few people can manage. He is a very
31:57
Speaker 3: emotional player who is going through a very emotional time
32:01
Speaker 3: right now with his hometown of Venezuela, and has started
32:05
Speaker 3: about three or four bench clearing brawls in the last
32:09
Speaker 3: month that he's apologized for since. But he's rubbed opponents
32:15
Speaker 3: the wrong way his entire career. He's rubbed his teammates
32:20
Speaker 3: the wrong way his entire career, and Joe Madden, in
32:25
Speaker 3: a really fascinating interview, his former manager with the Cubs,
32:29
Speaker 3: said there is no question Wilson Contreras has to be
32:32
Speaker 3: a hands on guy. He is the most emotional player
32:36
Speaker 3: that I've ever managed, and yet he's very reasonable. You
32:40
Speaker 3: can sit down with him, you can reason with him,
32:42
Speaker 3: and he usually will apologize and learn from it and
32:45
Speaker 3: be a different player going forward. But then you've got
32:47
Speaker 3: to be ready to do it all over again. So
32:50
Speaker 3: this is the full gamut of what you might get
32:53
Speaker 3: if you added Wilson Contreras, and I'd probably be scared
32:59
Speaker 3: off from it, quite frankly, But maybe this is the
33:03
Speaker 3: type of player this team needs, something that plays with
33:07
Speaker 3: fire and emotion. I mean, how many games have we
33:10
Speaker 3: had this year where we've come on, where was the
33:13
Speaker 3: fire last night? Right?
33:14
Speaker 2: They all get along, especially if we get down early.
33:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all get along. They're great buddies, they're great teammates,
33:20
Speaker 3: and when things are going well, man, that's the happiest
33:23
Speaker 3: place on earth, a Mariner's clubhouse. But Wilson Contreras is
33:28
Speaker 3: kind of, for the first time in his career, turned
33:31
Speaker 3: into a leader since the Red Sox have kind of
33:33
Speaker 3: fallen out of it, and this aggressive, in your face,
33:37
Speaker 3: I will fight anyone at any time is kind of
33:41
Speaker 3: working for the Red Sox. They've been playing better, and
33:44
Speaker 3: Joe Madden also said this about him, like he's never
33:48
Speaker 3: been a leader. He wants to be a leader. This
33:50
Speaker 3: is his version of leading, and it's actually working to
33:54
Speaker 3: a degree for a Red Sox team that looked like
33:56
Speaker 3: it was dead in the water about a month ago.
33:59
Speaker 3: But this guy's not only playing well, but his fiery
34:02
Speaker 3: attitude kind of has rallied his team a little bit.
34:06
Speaker 3: I still say no to Wilson Contreras, and I definitely
34:11
Speaker 3: say they're not going to add him, probably mostly because
34:15
Speaker 3: of finances. But I don't know if I'm as scared
34:19
Speaker 3: off by the fiery attitude, the disruption he might be
34:24
Speaker 3: as maybe I was once with Wilson Contreras. He might
34:28
Speaker 3: actually light a fire under this team and it might
34:31
Speaker 3: actually burn the place down by next year. But in then,
34:34
Speaker 3: but for now, I don't know. Maybe the team needs that,
34:38
Speaker 3: or maybe the team just needs July and August to
34:41
Speaker 3: get here so they can settle into their normal summer groove.
34:44
Speaker 4: Maybe, or just I think you bring in Wilson Contreras
34:47
Speaker 4: and then bring in the guy that handles Wilson's the best,
34:49
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, and he can be just Wilson Contreras's special supervisor.
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Speaker 3: Or maybe ah Joe Madden too, yeah. Uh. Jonathan Mayo
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