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Liberating Slaves and Living Out Christianity · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Media. Is a man
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back from Times Square. It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com.
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  Speaker 3: Grateful to have you with us. And I am grateful
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  Speaker 3: that it is back to one of my favorite times
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  Speaker 3: of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I talk about it on the show all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a sucker for the end of year holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas,
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  Speaker 3: all the joy, all the thankfulness, all the gratitude, all
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  Speaker 3: the presents, all the kids getting excited, the music, all
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  Speaker 3: of it. It just fills my heart with happiness and fulfillment.
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  Speaker 3: And even though we're not quite in the slog of
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  Speaker 3: that portion just yet, we are concentrating from here to
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  Speaker 3: the end for a good outcome for Christmas for Christians
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  Speaker 3: that are enslaved and that have no reason to believe
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  Speaker 3: that there's going to be anything good in their life.
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  Speaker 3: And we can actually give them their life back. We're
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  Speaker 3: talking about our annual Christmas. liberation of people who are
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  Speaker 3: enslaved in Sudan. And that voice that chimed in right
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  Speaker 3: there is Todd Chapman, who rejoins us from a little
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  Speaker 3: group called Christian Solidarity International. I love this group. I've
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  Speaker 3: told you about them for years. We've together seen thousands
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  Speaker 3: of people literally taken out of slavery and given a
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  Speaker 3: life all over again. And, Todd, last year we didn't
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  Speaker 3: have enough time to enjoy the entire process for the
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  Speaker 3: full last quarter of the year. But we're going to
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  Speaker 3: do something great this year for people that are brand new.
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  Speaker 3: And we have new people tuning in from Anchorage to
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  Speaker 3: Miami every day. Like, it's just cool how people are
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  Speaker 3: finding the show. What is this all about?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so CSI is an organization that for actually 49 years,
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  Speaker 7: celebrating 50 years in 2027, has been liberating slaves and
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  Speaker 7: really ministering to Christians. all over the world who are
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  Speaker 7: being persecuted for their faith. But the work that is
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  Speaker 7: probably most unique and that we're best known for is
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  Speaker 7: what we're going to be talking about and inviting you
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  Speaker 7: to be a part of for the remainder of this year,
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  Speaker 7: and that is to free Sudanese slaves. Now, this goes
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  Speaker 7: all the way back to, as my kids would say,
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  Speaker 7: the last century when a civil war was raging in Sudan,
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  Speaker 7: and militants were basically allowed to go into Christian communities
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  Speaker 7: and and pillage and kidnap and kill and destroy those villages.
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  Speaker 7: And the outcome of that was hundreds of thousands of slaves,
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  Speaker 7: primarily women and children, were abducted and taken into what
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  Speaker 7: is now Sudan. This was, you know, right about the
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  Speaker 7: time South Sudan was being formed in this same period
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  Speaker 7: of time. And these slaves have been kept there for
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  Speaker 7: decades now. We're talking, you know, 25, 30 years for some.
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  Speaker 4: Of these.
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  Speaker 7: People who many were children and now they're still living enslaved.
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  Speaker 7: And so CSI not only at that period of time
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  Speaker 7: negotiated the end of slave taking during that time of conflict,
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  Speaker 7: but what they weren't able to do at the time
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  Speaker 7: was actually secure the release of those slaves through, you know,
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  Speaker 7: government negotiations. So they said, well, if the government's not
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  Speaker 7: going to do it, God's people will. And so for
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  Speaker 7: the last, you know, since 19, Well, the mid-1990s, we
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  Speaker 7: have been freeing slaves every year, thanks to the generosity
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  Speaker 7: of people like you. $ 250, incredibly, is all it takes
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  Speaker 7: for us to send our slave retrievers that are working year-round,
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  Speaker 7: by the way, identifying these enslaved women and children and
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  Speaker 7: negotiating their release. We'll talk more about that in a minute.
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  Speaker 7: And then bringing them back down into South Sudan, and
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  Speaker 7: whenever we can, reuniting them with their family members, moving
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  Speaker 7: them back to their communities. And if we can't find that,
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  Speaker 7: because some of these people were taken to such a
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  Speaker 7: tender age, they don't even remember.
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  Speaker 3: Or had their whole family killed in the process. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they might be gone. So if that's the case,
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  Speaker 7: then we set them up in new communities of Christians.
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  Speaker 7: This is all done through the church there in South Sudan,
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  Speaker 7: all powered by your generosity. Kevin, it's so unique. It's
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  Speaker 7: so beautiful. And this is the heart of the scripture, right?
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  Speaker 7: The Bible says that Jesus came for freedom. And so
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  Speaker 7: that's what we're supposed to be in the business of
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  Speaker 7: as followers of Christ, setting captives free. And in this case,
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  Speaker 7: that's physical bondage. And I will add to this that
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  Speaker 7: these women and children have been they've been subject to
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  Speaker 7: just incredible abuse across such a period of time. Physical abuse,
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  Speaker 7: verbal abuse, slave labor, sexual abuse of all different forms.
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  Speaker 7: It's a miracle thing. frankly, that many have survived as
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  Speaker 7: long as they have. But we can liberate them. Over
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  Speaker 7: 160 slaves already rescued through CSI, thanks to generous people
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  Speaker 7: like you. And during this holiday season, we're hoping the
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  Speaker 7: listeners of that Kevin show will free several hundred more.
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  Speaker 7: So that's what I'm here for. And I'm pumped to
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  Speaker 7: be back every year. This is such a gratifying time
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  Speaker 7: of the year.
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  Speaker 3: I love ending the year with this because it is
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  Speaker 3: one of the most meaningful things that we've ever participated
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  Speaker 3: in as a family and the ability to get to
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  Speaker 3: just be part of it is such an honor. Friends,
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  Speaker 3: I have told you the whole time that I've been
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  Speaker 3: on the air that I never ask you to do
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  Speaker 3: anything that we don't do personally. And that's true with CSI.
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  Speaker 3: We've given to them for years and we've had the joy.
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  Speaker 3: Back during COVID, my kids were listening to me do
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  Speaker 3: my show from my home studio and when they weren't
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  Speaker 3: going to school in person, and they would hear us
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  Speaker 3: discuss the situation that the slaves were facing. And they
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  Speaker 3: really held my feet to the fire and said, Dad,
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  Speaker 3: what are we doing to do anything about this? And
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  Speaker 3: this became the cause of the McCullough family and is
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  Speaker 3: to this day. And by God's grace, we have been
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  Speaker 3: able to literally liberate dozens of slaves ourselves as just
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  Speaker 3: a family. And we want to encourage you to join
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  Speaker 3: us on that path as well. 1-888-342-1010 is the number. 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 3: And if you go to the all newly designed thatkevinshow.com,
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  Speaker 3: you'll see banners at the top and at the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: If you're on the mobile version, it pops up from
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  Speaker 3: the bottom and just is right there, but you'll see
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  Speaker 3: CSI banners right there. It is easy to give through those.
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  Speaker 3: You click it and I'm serious in 60 seconds or less,
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  Speaker 3: you can make your gift and be on your way.
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  Speaker 3: And so the idea that CSI is going to actively
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  Speaker 3: work until we have them all back. At the height
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  Speaker 3: of the conflict, there were probably about 185,000, maybe 200,000
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  Speaker 3: slaves in total that were enslaved in North Sudan. Because
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  Speaker 3: of Christian Solidarity International, more than 150,000 of those have
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  Speaker 3: been liberated and brought home and released. But that means
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  Speaker 3: that there's still 35,000 or 40,000 that are still there.
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  Speaker 3: And some have had children as prisoners. way of their
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  Speaker 3: slave masters while they've been in slavery. So the number
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  Speaker 3: fluctuates a little bit, but even, even the kids we
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  Speaker 3: can now help liberate and bring home, which has not
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  Speaker 3: been able to happen before.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty remarkable. And yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 7: one slight correction. Just got the latest updated numbers over
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  Speaker 7: 160 now thousand slaves have been liberated. So that is
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  Speaker 7: just phenomenal. But we don't really know, honestly, how many remain,
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  Speaker 7: because to your point, kids have been born. And so
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  Speaker 7: it's a real hard calculation to make. But we have
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  Speaker 7: slave retrievers that, again, throughout the year. They're working in
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  Speaker 7: that part of the country and they know how to
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  Speaker 7: spot these slaves. I mean, so many stories about, you know,
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  Speaker 7: a slave woman will be at the market or she'll
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  Speaker 7: be gathering water or tending the flock. And one of
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  Speaker 7: our retrievers will recognize the hallmarks. I mean, frankly, a
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  Speaker 7: lot of them are physically scarred from abuse and things
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  Speaker 7: like that. And they'll say, hey, would you do you
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  Speaker 7: want to be free? And then they'll negotiate freedom, not
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  Speaker 7: with money, but with a cattle vaccine that these these ranchers,
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  Speaker 7: these slave owners need. And that's how we've been doing this.
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  Speaker 7: Your $ 250 gift does that. Also provides them with the
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  Speaker 7: resources necessary to start a new life.
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  Speaker 3: It's a dairy goat.
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  Speaker 7: It's a bag of hope with all sorts of supplies, food,
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  Speaker 7: and everything they need, Kevin, to start a new life
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  Speaker 7: and freedom.
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  Speaker 8: That's what we get to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. $ 250 liberates a life, sometimes the life of the
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  Speaker 3: mom and the child, sometimes two.
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  Speaker 5: 1-888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 4: 1-888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 3: Or go to ThatKevinShow.com and click the CSI banner at
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  Speaker 3: the top or the bottom of the page. ThatKevinShow.com, the
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  Speaker 3: CSI banner, or 888-342-1010 and liberate a life.
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  Speaker 9: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is the Monday edition of That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com.
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  Speaker 3: this part of the show is concentrated at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the show for a reason. Before we take on
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  Speaker 3: the issues of the day, before we go into all
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  Speaker 3: of the noise, I want us to be rooted and
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  Speaker 3: grounded in biblical truth so that we can learn to
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  Speaker 3: interpret the rest of it properly. Jason Mormon is his name.
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  Speaker 3: Pastor Jason, it's good to have you back. Thanks for
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  Speaker 3: being here.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm so excited to be back on with you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited to have you back because we knew that
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  Speaker 3: back when you first joined the show that there was
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  Speaker 3: going to be a day in which there was an
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  Speaker 3: exciting new project in your life that was going to
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  Speaker 3: come to complete fruition. Tell us about God's cookbook, Recovering
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  Speaker 3: the Flavor of Faith in a Saltless Age.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so excited to get this book launched. It's
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  Speaker 4: finally out. And, you know, it's been in my heart, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: for about three years. And just had this desire to
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  Speaker 4: help people understand what Jesus was saying when he said,
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  Speaker 4: you are the salt of the earth. And that's what
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  Speaker 4: the book goes into. It goes into how Christianity is
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  Speaker 4: supposed to influence society. And it's got recipes in it,
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  Speaker 4: like recipes of how Christianity is supposed to bring the
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  Speaker 4: salt of truth to the table of the world.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. Well, let's jump in. Today, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to talk about God's one ingredient, salt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, in God's cookbook, he has one ingredient
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  Speaker 4: and it's salt. Matthew 5, 13, Jesus goes, hey, you
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  Speaker 4: are the salt of the earth. And I was studying
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  Speaker 4: that and it dawned on me that I think a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people, because it's become a cliche, something we
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  Speaker 4: say about people. You know, if somebody was a kind person,
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  Speaker 4: they were a good person. We go, hey, they were
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  Speaker 4: a salt of the earth type person. And that's that's great.
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  Speaker 4: And I like to tell people, you know, I hope
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  Speaker 4: you're not a jerk. I hope you hold the door
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  Speaker 4: at the store for somebody. You know, if you're on
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  Speaker 4: a plane, I hope you help somebody elderly get their
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  Speaker 4: bag up in the overhead. Like, you know, I believe
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  Speaker 4: in being nice. But when Jesus says you are the
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  Speaker 4: salt of the earth, first of all, it's not even
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  Speaker 4: a it's not even it's not an individual thing. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: it applies to all of us. But when he says
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  Speaker 4: you in the in the Greek, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: plural you. I grew up in Arkansas. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if there was a southern translation of the Bible, it
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  Speaker 4: would translate it. Y'all are the salt of the earth here.
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  Speaker 4: If you're from the north, it would be you guys
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  Speaker 4: are the salt of the earth. And we get that
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  Speaker 4: because context matters. And when we read the Bible, we
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  Speaker 4: have to understand the context of what Jesus is talking about.
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  Speaker 4: And then he follows it up with another illustration just
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  Speaker 4: to help us understand. He goes, hey, you're a city
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  Speaker 4: on a hill. And he doesn't say you're an individual
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  Speaker 4: home on a hill. You're not an apartment on the hill.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, so he's talking about something that is bigger
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  Speaker 4: than individual behavior. What he's saying when he says you
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  Speaker 4: are the salt of the earth, which I think this applies.
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  Speaker 4: So it connects so well with this segment of like, how,
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  Speaker 4: how shall we live? Like how, how shouldn't Christianity be
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  Speaker 4: a part of society? When Jesus says you are the
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  Speaker 4: salt of the earth, he was, to influence every part
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  Speaker 4: of society, that there was this influence that would take
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  Speaker 4: place when Christians lived out the true meaning of Christianity.
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  Speaker 4: We lived out the morals of Christianity. And so you
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  Speaker 4: are the salt of the earth is a much bigger
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  Speaker 4: statement than just, hey, be a nice person, be a
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  Speaker 4: good person. And again, I hope you are. What he's
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  Speaker 4: saying is that the morals of the values and the
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  Speaker 4: truths of Christianity were intended to influence the world that
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  Speaker 4: we live in. And you contrast that with a culture
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  Speaker 4: that has taught the church to be silent. It's told
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  Speaker 4: pastors not to speak out on certain things. It's told
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  Speaker 4: the church kind of to stay in the four walls
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  Speaker 4: of the church. And I just believe the vision of
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  Speaker 4: Jesus for Christianity was so individual personal faith, I believe
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  Speaker 4: that Jesus intended Christianity to have power in the public square.
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  Speaker 4: And it was, you know, Jesus chose salt because it was,
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  Speaker 4: it was one of their main things. Like they, they
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  Speaker 4: didn't have frigidaires and whirlpool refrigerators. They didn't even have
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  Speaker 4: kitchens as we know it. And so without, without salt,
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  Speaker 4: it was, it was a much different deal. And so
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  Speaker 4: salt was one of the main things that they use.
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  Speaker 4: One is it added flavor. You know, Job has this
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  Speaker 4: funny verse. It's like, who wants to eat an egg
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  Speaker 4: without salt? And I'm like, amen, Job. I like, I
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  Speaker 4: like that verse, you know? So when you talk about salt,
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  Speaker 4: one is it obviously brings flavor to food. And I like,
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  Speaker 4: there is this There is this flavor of Christianity that
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  Speaker 4: has to get added to the world because humanity without
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  Speaker 4: Christianity loses its humanity. And we see it happening. Like
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  Speaker 4: people are losing their identity. Like my heart hurts for
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  Speaker 4: so many young people. Parents are wondering why they're sending
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  Speaker 4: their kids off to school for hours a day to
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  Speaker 4: learn and they're coming back dumber than when they sent them.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like when prayer was taken out of school,
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  Speaker 4: when Bible was taken out of school, when the influence
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  Speaker 4: of Christianity was removed, other things start coming. into it.
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  Speaker 4: And then the second part of salt that Jesus gave
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  Speaker 4: us was, was how they preserve food. It's, it's a
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  Speaker 4: fascinating study because, you know, they couldn't preserve food in
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  Speaker 4: a refrigerator, they couldn't keep it fresh. And so, and,
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  Speaker 4: and they were scarce, like they, they were wondering where
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  Speaker 4: their next meal was going to come from. They didn't
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  Speaker 4: have a grocery store on every corner and a place
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  Speaker 4: to go buy food. And so like, it was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: salt was what kept fish from going a shelf life
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  Speaker 4: of maybe an hour if it was properly preserved it
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  Speaker 4: could last up to a year and when he's when
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  Speaker 4: he's using this ideology and i and i hope people
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  Speaker 4: understand this was salt was what's kept something from decaying
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  Speaker 4: And what we're watching in our world today, and there
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  Speaker 4: have been so many people confused what Christianity is, which
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  Speaker 4: is why I go into the recipes in the book
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  Speaker 4: of what historical biblical Christianity has been for 2,000 years.
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  Speaker 4: If Christians don't get engaged in politics, if we don't
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  Speaker 4: get engaged in culture, if we don't get engaged in education.
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  Speaker 4: And then I hope this book like inspire some people
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  Speaker 4: to get involved in their kids schools, get back on
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  Speaker 4: city councils, man, run, run for your HOA. I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to be a part of my HOA, but I
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  Speaker 4: pray God calls somebody else to be a part of
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  Speaker 4: an HOA. Be a part of every like go coach
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  Speaker 4: sports again and bring because without Christianity, the world quickly decays.
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  Speaker 4: Like there is a decay that happens and we need
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  Speaker 4: to understand the power and the influence of not just
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  Speaker 4: being a kind person, not just being a good person,
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  Speaker 4: not just being a compassionate person. But recognize when Jesus
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  Speaker 4: said we're the salt of the earth, he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you have to bring the morals. You've got to bring
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  Speaker 4: the values. You've got to bring the truth. And I
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  Speaker 4: think doctrine matters, like right doctrine, believing what God has
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  Speaker 4: taught us to how to live out the world. Like
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  Speaker 4: we bring all of that. And if Christians don't set
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  Speaker 4: the table, then other ideologies creep in. And there's this
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  Speaker 4: ideology today, like we bring the kingdom of God, like
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  Speaker 4: wherever we go, whatever we're a part of, our beliefs,
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  Speaker 4: our values, our morals, the way that we believe, like
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: we bring the kingdom of God to the earth. And
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: we live in this the way the Bible describes it
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: in this already, but not yet. So there is a
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  Speaker 4: day that the fullness of the kingdom of God will
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: come on the earth. Jesus Christ will be king of
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: kings and Lord of lords. And every knee will bow
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the glory of God the Father. But today, the way
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  Speaker 4: the kingdom of God comes on the earth is through
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Christians living out the values of God's kingdom rule. And,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: you know, there's a there's a big difference because people
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  Speaker 4: are trying like there's this big push to bring a
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: utopia through politics, through communism, through socialism, through Marxism, through
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: all of these different things, like all of these political
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and social and cultural strategies. And we see it gaining
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: so much prominence. Like I think it was I read
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a stat the other day that 60 percent of people
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: who were in the Democrat Party are in favor of socialism.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: And it's like it's not difficult to see that when
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Christianity is removed from the public square, from people's political ideology,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: from people's worldview, it's not difficult to see how culture
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: begins to trend towards decay. And my heart with this
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: book is that people would recognize the power of individual
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Christians bringing the salt of God's... truth and his values
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: and his morals into every segment of society, because we
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: will never create a utopia without God.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Jason, such a great discussion starter for the week. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: we're just getting started. Literally God's cookbook, recovering the flavor
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of faith in a saltless age. It's available everywhere. Follow
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Jason on Instagram because that's a great place to also
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: see the book and what he has going on there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: And Jason, I can't wait until We pick up tomorrow's
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: discussion on this. Thank you for getting us thinking down
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the right path today.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Great to be with you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: You got it. Jason Worman, again, the book, God's Cookbook,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Recovering the Flavor of Faith in a Saltless Age. Kevin
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: McCullough coming right back. It's a big Monday, even though
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: it's a holiday. Stay with us.
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Welcome back.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: It is the time of year where we get to
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: say Merry Christmas. What? To someone who is going to
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: have a wonderful Christmas this year because of Christian Solidarity International,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: because of you, because of us doing this together, because
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: of God working in people's hearts, because of God making
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: a way for all of it to happen. A woman
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: is going to receive the best Christmas present she's ever
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: received as a Christian who's not been allowed to practice
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: her worship of Jesus Christ in most of the last
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: few years. We're talking about enslaved women primarily in northern
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Sudan who were taken as a spoil of war. You know,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: when they go in and they kill everything and they
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: knock everything over, they take the women as slaves. They
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: take them as personal possessions. And these women have been
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: mistreated badly for the last 15 to 20 to 30 years,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: depending on how old they are. And Todd Chapman is
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: back with us from Christian Solidarity International to tell us
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: about it. And Todd, these stories, and I've read just
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: like you, I've read hundreds of them over the last 10,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: 15 years that we've done this. But I never allow
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: myself to get desensitized to the amount of pain that
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: they go through because every one of them is a
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: person and every one of them has been treated with
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: pretty horrific circumstances. But there's a story about a young
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: woman named Adut that you have. And it's interesting. Sudanese
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: names sound a little different to our Western ears. But
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: this woman's name was Adut. What happened to her?
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So when she was seven years of age, she was
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: abducted during that civil war, during that conflict when, you know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Militants were allowed to go in and raid Christian villages.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: And she and her mother were they were just walking
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: on their way home back from someplace to their home.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: And they found them along the path and they abducted them.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: And so they were taken into North Sudan. It was
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: separated from her mom. I don't know what happened to
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: her mom. She doesn't seem to even know what happened
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: to her mom. But she was put to work seven
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: years of age, put to work cleaning. washing clothes, gathering firewood,
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: just anything that needed to be done around her slave's
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: master's home. That's what she did. And she was also,
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: you know, at seven years of age, raised in a
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Christian family, in a Christian village. She was also began
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: to be abused in every way you can imagine. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: she was forced to abandon practicing her Christian faith. And,
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: you know, they said, you're going to convert to Islam.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: So she even lost her faith. Now, the interesting thing is, though,
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: and they do that to pretty much all these slaves,
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: but so many of them keep it tucked inside.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: They're like, OK, well, maybe you say I can't pray
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: and I have to, you know, acknowledge another God, your God.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Not my God. Yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: And so they keep praying and praying for deliverance.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: After 23 years, 23 years.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Adut is 30 years old now and finally was rescued
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: by one of our slave retrievers, found her at a market,
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: began to converse with her. you know, confirmed that she
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: was indeed a slave and said, do you, I can
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: help get you free.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Would you be willing to come with me? And she said, yes.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: And she's now back in South Sudan and she's making
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: a new life empowered by your compassion, your generosity and
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: the bag of folk and the goat that you provide
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: when you give a gift of $ 250. What a beautiful, man,
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: what a beautiful picture of God's deliverance grace, right? I mean,
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: if you look at the Bible, the Bible is just
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: one big giant rescue story. with a lot of rescue
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: stories contained within it. And we're supposed to continue that story. Slavery, friends,
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: is not dead. It is actually more vibrant in various
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: forms than ever before globally. And it is just incumbent, Kevin,
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  Speaker 7: upon God's people to, number one, be aware of opportunities
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: to free slaves, whether it's Sudan or Pakistan or Nigeria
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: or multiple countries in Africa. Slavery everywhere. And we can
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: do something about it. You just need to, number one,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: be aware it's a problem and then say, God, what
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: would you have me do? I cannot imagine if it
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: were me or my child or my grandchild that was
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: abducted and taken to another country and abused in every way.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Most of us would stop at nothing. We're at our
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: family member. Well, look, all we have to do is
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: give money. You don't have to go to Sudan. You
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: don't have to get on a plane. You don't have
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: to risk yourself at all. CSI is doing all of that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: But we need God's people to step in and empower
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: God's liberation of these precious people.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: And I just want to say, 888-342-1010, I just want
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: to say that because of you, those of you listening
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to this show, again, from Anchorage, Alaska to Miami, from
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: San Diego up to Kennebuckport, like everywhere in between, there's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: like 400 cities that are hearing us right now. Because
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: of you, over the last several years, nearly 4,000 people, women,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: sometimes their children with them, have been given the freedom
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: to of liberation and finding life, starting over again, getting
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: a brand new lease on life, if you will. And
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: that touches me friends, because that's a lot of human
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: lives that we've, we've had impact with. And in fact,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: just around the corner, there's going to be another liberation.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: We can't talk about details. We're not allowed to tell
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you when it's going to happen or anything like that,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: but I can rejoice after it does. I can tell
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: you all about it and we'll be able to tell
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you that your gifts help make some of that take place.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, Just know that
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: there are hundreds more, thousands more that have not yet
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: been liberated. And maybe you're one of those people that said, Kev,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I'm very burdened by this. How can I do something
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that really impacts it? Well, a gift of $ 25, 000 would liberate,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: what is that, 100 slaves? Yeah, 100 slaves. So that
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: would be, in essence, an amazing, huge impact right away.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: into the life of these slaves. But maybe you could
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: do $ 10 at $ 2, 500. Maybe you could do one a
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: month at $ 250 a month and over the course of
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the year liberate $ 12. Maybe you can do $ 25 a
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: month and liberate a slave in the next year. Whatever
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: God puts on your heart, He certainly is big enough
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: to be able to help you to achieve it. So
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: follow His leading and do what He says because I
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: know that there will be a wonderful result at the
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: other end. Thank you for considering it. Thank you for
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: doing it. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. You can also do it online
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: at thatkevinshow.com. Just click the CSI banner, thatkevinshow.com or 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: Here he is, from New York, That Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: All right, welcome on Columbus Day. It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: and it is still a money Monday as we're looking
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: at the ways to help you protect and preserve and
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: extend your legacy. You work too hard for what you
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: bring in to just let it flop around or just
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: get away from you. And so we want to give
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you some really sound advice on how to be a
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: good steward of that. And David Fisher is back with
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: us from Landmark Capital. David, the Treasury Secretary this last
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: week has hired a couple of individuals that I've never
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: heard of before. And David Servos and Judy Shelton. What
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: do we know about these people? What is their job?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Who are they? Help us understand what their role is.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: This piggybacks what we talked about last week where Jeffrey Dunlop,
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: who knows more about treasuries than anyone else, said they
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: were headed towards an insolvency or a collapse in the
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: treasury market. And, you know, he's the bond king. So
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I think the treasury is doing something about it. And
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: that's why they hired David Zervos here. And Judy Shelton,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: let's start with David. The Treasury on September 28th hired
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: him as a counselor to Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: So he's going to advise Scott.
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: On things like.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Working with major hedge funds because he's– first of all,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: his background, he was– worked in the early 90s at
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: the Federal Reserve, and then also in 2009 in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: aftermath of the whole 2008 at the Fed. So he
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: knows markets really well. He's a 35-year Wall Street veteran.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: He's an economist. He worked for UBS. He was the
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: former chief market strategist at Jefferies. That's the same firm
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: that last week one of their advisors, Christopher Woods, said
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: gold is going to $ 10, 000. So he brings a critical
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: element to the treasury because his forte is working with
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: money managers, banks, sovereign wealth funds, hedge funds, and pensions.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: And ironically, Kevin- Those are all the entities that are
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: massively selling treasuries and buying gold at the fastest rate.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: So I think he's being brought on to kind of
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: intervene in that, try and slow that trend down. It's
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: not going to change it because Morgan Stanley just said
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: that hedge fund capital is now 20% has moved out
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: of treasuries this year. So this is the trend in
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: one of the largest pension funds. is now the largest
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: seller of treasuries and one of the largest buyers of gold.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: So this is the trend. This is why I think
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: they hired David Zorvos. Now let's get to Judy Shelton. Boy,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: is this an eye-opener. She's an economist. She was appointed
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: also as a counselor at the Treasury to Secretary Scott Bassett.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: He invited her to his office a week ago And
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: the announcement was made last Friday. What's the significance of this? Well, previously,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: she was part of Donald Trump's advocate and suggested to
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: President Trump that we return to a gold standard. In fact,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: President Trump announced her as the nominee for the Fed
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: way back in 2019 in July. Actually, she didn't get
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: that because they don't like The Senate voted they don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: like her being backing the currency by gold. Well, that
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: didn't make her give up. She just went on from there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: She wrote a book in 2024, Good as Gold, How
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: to Unleash the Power of Sound Money. And in that book,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: she is an advocate on the Treasury developing a 50-year
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Treasury backed by gold. And in 2025, she wrote an
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: essay in the Wall Street Journal that urged Washington to
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: back the currency by gold.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: So let's connect those.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: The significance of bringing these two people on is either
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: fix the situation or back the currency by gold or
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: maybe both.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Well, and eventually getting there would be the ultimate right
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: thing to do, no?
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: No.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: And I think it's not if we will do it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I think we might be forced to do both of those,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: try and rein in our debt, but also and maybe
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: cause inflation. But I think they're going to back the
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: currency by gold because last.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Week I mentioned– Well, the president said in 24 that
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: he was– or in 25 that he was– no, in
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the 24 campaign, he said he was campaigning on that,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: that he believed that we should have a gold-backed currency.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: So this has been his established desire for a long time.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, President Trump made gold a critical mineral back in 2025.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Scott Besant wants to revalue all the gold of the
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: United States to a trillion dollars.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: This would bring in a whole bunch of revenue.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: So China, I think there's a race, Kevin, between who's
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: going to get there first. Either China, they're buying the
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: most amount of gold ever in history, or is it
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: the United States that's going to get there? And I
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: don't think President Trump wants to play second fiddle. If
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: we don't do it and we continue down this road,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: other people are now chiming in. Ed Yardini, he's a
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: very strong economist. He said just last week that the
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: 10-year Treasury, when it hits 6%, it could cause real
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: cracks everywhere. in the financial system. And of course, we
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: know Ray Dalio, he studies history on currencies. He's predicting
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: that there's going to be a debt crisis within the
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: next three years. So they got to do something. And
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: even President Trump's former campaign advisor is warning a bond
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: market crash indicator is now similar to 2008. So if
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: we move this direction, I think the fix is backing
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: the currency by gold. We certainly have a lot of
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: central banks buying gold. There's a movement in gold and silver.
• 34:29
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• 34:31
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• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Well, and I want to just say this. If it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: smart for the central bank and for the U.S. Treasury
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: to do this, why would it not be smart for you,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: listening friend, to do at least a part of it?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And that's why David's very unique. offer of helping you
• 34:48
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• 34:51
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• 34:54
  Speaker 3: mimicking the same behavior that the central bank and that
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the national treasury is doing in buying gold and backing
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: your assets with that. And I've said this many times,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: David is the guy that I've purchased all my gold
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: through over the years. He's a man of high integrity
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: and I think you're going to love dealing with him
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: because he really does specialize in education. But Here's the
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: phone number to call him today, 844-604-2575, 844-604-2575. You can
• 35:24
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• 35:28
  Speaker 3: lot of great information on it. You can make an
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: appointment through that as well. But I would encourage you
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: to talk to him because then you have even more
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: of the personal relationship. 844-604-2575. 844-604-2575. David Fisher, as always,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: thank you so much.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Kevin.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Coming right back. It's Money Monday. Stay here.
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Next.
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: Serving it up with a no-drink minnow. It's that Kevin
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• 36:10
  Speaker 3: All right, Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Final few thoughts for this period of time together, friends,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: about Christian Solidarity International and why it's so important. Look,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I'm never going to apologize for asking you to give
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: to great causes. I have told you that from the beginning.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: This is part of my expression of gratitude back to
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: God for the honor and the privilege and the humble
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: coolness that it is to get to do what I
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: do for a living every day. And it wouldn't be
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: possible had he not said, this is what I'm calling
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: you to. But because of that, I want to use
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: a portion of this platform every single day for his
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: glory and to do things that advance his kingdom. And
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And Todd, as I have had the chance to not
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: just advocate for CSI on the air over the years,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: But to get to know the organization and to see
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: how it operates and to understand the biblical efficiency with
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: which they take their stewardship and the extreme care that
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: is taken with every gift that is given and the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: integrity behind all of that, I have to say, not
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: only are they doing incredible things, they're one of the
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: best organizations I've ever had the chance to be part of.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: And that's why I continue to sing their praises long
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: after we're not on the air anymore. Like, this is
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: one of my passion organizations today. that I really, really
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: mean it when I say this. I believe that they
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: are doing God's work in every aspect.
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• 37:54
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  Speaker 7: in his word, which is to set captives free and
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: inviting other people to do that. And so over the past.
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  Speaker 7: You know, 30 plus years over, get this friends, over,
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  Speaker 10: Check.
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• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the kids if the moms are being liberated? Well, The
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: slave master views that child who he impregnated the slave
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: with as his property too. Kind of theirs, yeah. And
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: so the idea that we're able to talk him out
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  Speaker 3: of a future generation of a slave, which if it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a young boy is a very valuable thing to his calculations,
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  Speaker 3: those kids from that horrific future themselves.
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• 42:01
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• 42:04
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back. Kevin McCullough, very glad to have you with us.
• 42:16
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• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I had an interesting thing happen this weekend where the
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: family and I did an evening event in the city.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: We don't always take the kids into the city, particularly
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: in the evening. We do a lot of daytime things.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: But the St. Patrick's Cathedral was hosting this presentation called Luminescence.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It's this beautiful, beautiful light and sound event. adaptation of
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: the history of New York and its connection to St.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Patrick's and everything that that means. And I'm not Catholic,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: but I still very much appreciated everything that the presentation showed.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Rumi, who's the actor who plays Jesus in The Chosen,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: was the guy who narrated it. They had a live
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: orchestra and choir. It was really a beautiful night. But
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: in order to be there, we had dinner in Times
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Square and we walked the six blocks to the cathedral
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: and then we walked five blocks back to where we
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: were parked. And in the process of all of that,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: some interesting things happened. Here to discuss is Jacqueline Toberoff.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: You see her on Newsmax and all sorts of places.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: She's got a sub stack. I follow her on Instagram.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: If you're not following her on Instagram, you're missing out
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: because that's where her best stuff is. And from there,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: you can get to everything else. But Jacqueline, it's always
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: great to have you. Thanks for being back. You and
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I were actually DMing after I got home from this
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: event and you had been out in the city that
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: same night and you had captured a wedding couple where
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the bagpipes were playing behind them, blowing as they were
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: walking down the street. And you were like, this is
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: my favorite couple on earth. And I was like, I
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: didn't see their faces. So I thought maybe it was
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: a celebrity couple or friends or something that we knew.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: And I said, well, who is it? And you were like, well,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't know him. That's kind of the point. But
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: it was different than what you've come to expect in
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: your city of recent weeks.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 12: Listen, every day in New York City, there is an Islamist,
• 44:26
  Speaker 12: you know, riot or parade or celebration, whether they're celebrating
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: some horrific day that many people were killed or whatever
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: it is.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Saturday night, there was something loud in Times Square.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what they were talking about. I didn't
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: understand a word of it coming out, but Times Square
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: was packed and it caused some anxiety to my daughter
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: and bride and some of my kids.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: New York City is just fraught with anxiety and New Yorkers,
• 44:54
  Speaker 12: quite frankly, are fraught with anxiety. Because frequently when we leave,
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: whether it's walking down the street or taking a subway,
• 45:00
  Speaker 12: you see kafias, you see signs of people or people
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: chanting from the river to the sea. Globalize the Antifada
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: as you're stuck in a subway or as you are
• 45:11
  Speaker 12: trying to get from one street, one block to the next.
• 45:14
  Speaker 12: So I was going out to see a movie. And
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: I saw the most beautiful thing. I saw this couple
• 45:20
  Speaker 12: that had just gotten married and these bagpipes and this
• 45:25
  Speaker 12: procession behind them. And it was beautiful and it seemed
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: traditional and wholesome and.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: It was contained and it was clean.
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: And rather than chanting something about death and conquest, it
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: was this beautiful moment. And really, I couldn't believe it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 12: It just had such a profound impact on me.
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  Speaker 3: It warmed your heart for sure.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Well, then you and I were talking about how the
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: city has changed over the last couple of years. And
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I'm a big ambassador for New York. I want people
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: to come to our city. I do think it's still
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: very safe. But it will not stay safe in a
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: static situation if people that are concerned about things don't
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: speak up and say something about them. And I'm noticing
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: that it is changing significantly. I'm just curious, as a
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: mom yourself, you're in the city full time. We live
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: just outside the city proper and we go in a lot.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: But you're in the city all the time. What would
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: you say has changed most in your experience in the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: last two years?
• 46:29
  Speaker 12: So, I mean, first, I'm an independent journalist. I'm a reporter.
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: I research everything and I have eyes. And I can
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: tell you there has been a complete demographic shift. You
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: are seeing many more women in hijabs and Sharia compliant clothing.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: You know, showing obedience.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I have noticed that.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: It's all over in the subway, on the streets.
• 46:53
  Speaker 12: Halal carts, these mobile vending carts, they have spiked in numbers.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: All throughout New York City. These are mobile vending carts
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that used to be.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Because halal food's just gotten that much more popular?
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: Well, the Muslim population is amongst the highest demographic increase
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: into America and into New York City. Look, we have
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: an Al-Qaeda lawyer... as chief counsel to Zoran Mandani. We
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: are extremely friendly here in New York City to Islamists
• 47:30
  Speaker 12: and really Hamas supporters. And the demographic here in New
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: York City has changed. Activities, daily life in New York
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: City has changed. I mean, again, these are not parades.
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: These are riots and rallies chanting about death. and killing us,
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: and conquering us here in New York City, and quite frankly, America.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: And this is why I wanted you to be here
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: to say this, because it's one thing for me to
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: say it, but women are exponentially disadvantaged most in Islamic society.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: New York is in the battle for a new gubernatorial office,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: and Kathy Hochul went to a prominent mosque in And
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: herself put on the hijab, was allowed to speak only
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: when she was spoken to. She was allowed to do
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: her thing. She did her thing and she left. But
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: she completely comported herself to the environment in which she
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: was at. Jacqueline, I feel like she would be one
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: of the first to surrender if there was a major
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: issue that challenged her.
• 48:41
  Speaker 12: Well, she has surrendered. But I also want to point
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: out she's not alone. AOC is another person who did this.
• 48:46
  Speaker 12: And I just want to compare AOC's multiple sides because
• 48:49
  Speaker 12: this is how.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: They roll on the left.
• 48:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Real quick. We got like one minute.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 12: AOC got with Jamal Bowman and she acted, she pandered
• 48:58
  Speaker 12: to that crowd. She started cursing. She started twerking. She
• 49:01
  Speaker 12: started rapping. She was dressed in a completely different sort
• 49:05
  Speaker 12: of attire than when she went to the mosque, spoke
• 49:07
  Speaker 12: to an all male crowd, wore a hijab and was
• 49:10
  Speaker 12: extremely meek.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Deferential.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: So it's it's it's completely we are getting gaslit. from
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: every side.
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: And the most difficult point is because the Islamist society
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: is so closed off, getting information is extremely difficult.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Well, friends, those of you that are hearing this show
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: in New York, particularly New York City, you have a
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: choice to make in November. And Bruce Blakeman is not
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: going to do the stuff that we just described Kathy
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Hochul doing. And I don't care what else you kind
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: of put up against it. I think this is on
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: the ballot, this go around. I think preserving American culture
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: is very much at risk. My family felt somewhat filled
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: with anxiety and a little bit threatened as we were
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: in those really thick, heavy crowds on Saturday night. I
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: don't want that for anybody. Jackie, thank you for your time.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Can I say one thing very quickly?
• 50:05
  Speaker 12: DSA's core organizing principle is Palestine. Actually, Palestine is on
• 50:11
  Speaker 12: the ballot. There's no more thing as Democrat Party in
• 50:14
  Speaker 12: New York City. It's been absorbed by DSA, Democratic Socialists
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: of America. Their core organizing principle is Palestine. Palestine is
• 50:20
  Speaker 12: on the ballot, was literally on the ballot in the
• 50:23
  Speaker 12: New York Democratic primaries this past June. Bruce Blakeman, it's
• 50:27
  Speaker 12: Islamists versus Republican. And it has to be Republican.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Or American.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Or American.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Jackie. Appreciate it. Kevin McCullough coming back from
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Times Square. Don't go anywhere.
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back. It is Monday, and that means
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: it's time to talk money because we try to, here
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the week, help you be the
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  Speaker 3: best steward possible of what you're working so hard to
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: try to provide and leave for as a legacy for
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  Speaker 3: your family and to take care of those that you
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: have responsibility for. Always grateful to help you try to
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: be able to do that. And we've got such great
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  Speaker 3: resources for you, one of which, for small business owners,
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  Speaker 3: I want you to listen up. Because my very good
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  Speaker 3: friends at Mach Funding, M-A-C-H, like the word for speed,
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  Speaker 3: Mach Funding. And, Tony, we were talking over the weekend,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when small businesses get going, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: we have to have small businesses in this country. They
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: provide two out of every three new jobs. But when
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: they get going, there's all kinds of hurdles and challenges.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: And getting funding to get started really is one of
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: the most crucial. And there's like four basic ways that
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: most small businesses do get funded. Let's talk about them. Yeah, definitely.
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: And, Kevin, once again, great to be here. So there's
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: really four ways.
• 52:29
  Speaker 13: I mean, for most people, there's probably three ways, but
• 52:32
  Speaker 13: I would say getting right into it, the more traditional route,
• 52:35
  Speaker 13: which is the route everybody knows about is the bank.
• 52:37
  Speaker 13: Going to the bank is easier said than done for
• 52:40
  Speaker 13: a small business owner, especially in this day and age,
• 52:43
  Speaker 13: mostly because of the red tape. I mean, we know
• 52:46
  Speaker 13: that it's obvious, but what most small business owners really
• 52:50
  Speaker 13: don't think about is as a small business owner, you're
• 52:52
  Speaker 13: trying to show as little income as possible.
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: Especially when the end of the year is near.
• 52:58
  Speaker 13: You want to make sure you take advantage of every
• 53:00
  Speaker 13: single tax incentive out there. So that automatically kind of
• 53:05
  Speaker 13: disqualifies you at the bank level, not even getting into credit.
• 53:08
  Speaker 13: You need at least a 650 credit score for most banks.
• 53:12
  Speaker 13: So if you're a small business owner, you're putting all
• 53:14
  Speaker 13: your money into your business. That includes your credit, all
• 53:16
  Speaker 13: your resources.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: So a.
• 53:20
  Speaker 13: The bank is clearly the best route in terms of rates,
• 53:24
  Speaker 13: payment structures, and so on and so forth. A lot
• 53:27
  Speaker 13: of the banks, banks in general, just really, really want
• 53:30
  Speaker 13: to secure their investment in many ways, more ways than one.
• 53:34
  Speaker 13: And so for them, they want to make sure you
• 53:36
  Speaker 13: have squeaky clean business. You have to be in business established.
• 53:40
  Speaker 10: The longer, the better.
• 53:40
  Speaker 13: So rule of thumb is three years or more at
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: a minimum. And you have to show at least two
• 53:45
  Speaker 13: years of profitable tax returns. So Small business owners, a
• 53:49
  Speaker 13: lot of them, again, due to the fact that they're
• 53:52
  Speaker 13: growing their business or trying to do whatever they can
• 53:53
  Speaker 13: to put everything into it, that usually disqualifies them at
• 53:56
  Speaker 13: the bank level. Then you have the shark tanks of
• 53:59
  Speaker 13: the world, right? The angel investors, as I like to
• 54:02
  Speaker 13: call them. And that's a whole other situation in and
• 54:05
  Speaker 13: of itself because now you're finding someone who is going
• 54:08
  Speaker 13: to believe in your business.
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: Enough to put their own money and resources into the business.
• 54:14
  Speaker 13: And the downsides to that is not every business owner, unfortunately,
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: has that person or that investor.
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: And many of them.
• 54:22
  Speaker 13: Have to have some kind of a niche product or
• 54:25
  Speaker 13: incredible amount of momentum in their business that calls for
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: attention from that investor to come in and step in.
• 54:32
  Speaker 13: And then that, even if let's say you are that
• 54:35
  Speaker 13: kind of person that has that momentum and has that
• 54:38
  Speaker 13: kind of product as a business, then getting that investor
• 54:41
  Speaker 13: to come in and financing your operation, hopefully getting to
• 54:46
  Speaker 13: a point where your business is growing and doing.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: Everything possible, then going out and buying that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: Person out is a bigger nightmare than it is for
• 54:56
  Speaker 13: most business owners than it should be because these people
• 54:58
  Speaker 13: are in it to get their money and not to
• 55:00
  Speaker 13: get their money back. They want to get two or
• 55:02
  Speaker 13: three times their money. So that brings a whole slew
• 55:05
  Speaker 13: of other issues. So I would argue that by far
• 55:08
  Speaker 13: is the most expensive way to get money for your business.
• 55:12
  Speaker 13: So then the other option, a third option would be
• 55:14
  Speaker 13: Let's say you're a lucky person to have a rich uncle.
• 55:17
  Speaker 13: We talked about this on my podcast. You know, you
• 55:19
  Speaker 13: have a rich uncle, rich friend, rich family member. They're
• 55:22
  Speaker 13: willing to put money into your business, bail you out
• 55:24
  Speaker 13: of a situation. And that's great if you have that
• 55:28
  Speaker 13: kind of person. But then good luck having a Thanksgiving
• 55:32
  Speaker 13: conversation and telling them that you can't pay them back
• 55:35
  Speaker 13: or you're putting more than money on the line.
• 55:38
  Speaker 10: You're putting your relationship with that person on the line.
• 55:41
  Speaker 13: And then obviously you got to figure out how to
• 55:43
  Speaker 13: accurately recorded in your taxes. That's a whole nother thing.
• 55:47
  Speaker 13: And there's no paper trail, meaning there's no credit. The
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: whole point of growing a business is to establish credit.
• 55:53
  Speaker 13: So when you're borrowing from a personal family friend, there's
• 55:56
  Speaker 13: no paper trail of that.
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: So while that's a great bailout, get out of jail card,
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: as I like to say, it's really not.
• 56:02
  Speaker 13: Really a solution to really grow your business into the future, right?
• 56:06
  Speaker 13: That person's not gonna bankroll your business forever, right? So
• 56:09
  Speaker 13: then the last and fourth, I guess, option out there
• 56:12
  Speaker 13: would be, The revenue-based, the alternative-based financing, our wheelhouse, that's
• 56:19
  Speaker 13: our industry. And there's obvious downsides to our industry, right?
• 56:23
  Speaker 13: The terms are shorter. The rates are higher. It's not
• 56:27
  Speaker 13: a one-size-fits-all shoe. It has to make sense for your business.
• 56:31
  Speaker 13: You have to be able to use the money in
• 56:33
  Speaker 13: a way where the cash flow generated by investing the
• 56:37
  Speaker 13: money far exceeds how much you're going to be paying back.
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: And over the timeframe, you're paying it back.
• 56:43
  Speaker 13: And so that's the conversation that we have to have
• 56:45
  Speaker 13: every single day with clients is figuring out your situation,
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: understanding what you're using the money for, how long is
• 56:53
  Speaker 13: your investment going to take to pay you back? And
• 56:56
  Speaker 13: can you afford those payments and weather the storm in
• 56:59
  Speaker 13: the meantime, right?
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: So friends, rule of thumb is very simple.
• 57:04
  Speaker 13: The more attractive the lending option is, the more conservative
• 57:09
  Speaker 13: the lender is, that's providing it to you.
• 57:11
  Speaker 10: So vice versa, the more risk the lender is.
• 57:14
  Speaker 13: Taking, then obviously the more, the shorter the term, the
• 57:17
  Speaker 13: more aggressive the repayment options are. But at the end
• 57:20
  Speaker 13: of the day, the only loan option that works for
• 57:24
  Speaker 13: you as a business owner is the one that you
• 57:26
  Speaker 13: have within your reach, but more importantly, the one that
• 57:30
  Speaker 13: you can afford and the one that you can profit
• 57:32
  Speaker 13: out of.
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: And that's just the way it is.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Well, and I'm glad you kind of went through that.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: And friends, I want you to know mock funding can
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: get you access to all kinds of options, including at
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: least three of the four that were two of the
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: four that we're talking about here because they can do SBA.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: They can do some bank referrals, some other stuff. But
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: that's right. The issue, Tony, is always to go into
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: what you're doing with eyes wide open and to be
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: really careful. non-emotional, but very clear-eyed about what your strategy is.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I think the problem for a lot of people is
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: that money is a really dangerous fire. And sometimes people
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: don't know what to do with it when it's sitting
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: in their pocket. And you've heard the expression, burns a
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: hole through their pocket. It can have that temptation. What
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I appreciate about what you guys do is that you
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: sit down with the business owner and you say, We
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: need to understand your business. We need to understand what
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: qualifies as success in that business. How does that success register?
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: How often does it come in, et cetera? And then
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: you really try to match the need of what they have.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: And like in the industry of farming or whatever, there
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: may be a farmer that's sitting on not planning or
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: not doing something because he doesn't have the right piece
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: of equipment, but he's, quote, saving up for it. in
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: a traditional way that may take him an exponential amount
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: of time to do that. Whereas if he sits down
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: with you and you say, well, if you had this
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: piece of equipment, you could actually get that field planted
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: faster and we're going to be able to get you
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: down the road further in a faster time. It's those
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: types of things that you go out of your way
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: to help your customers understand. And the other thing I
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: want to tell your friends- The other thing I want
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: you to know about Tony is that they have people
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: that have been doing business with them for years. They've
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: come back again and again because of Tony's integrity in
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: any finance space. Integrity sometimes gets left at the door.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: And Tony and the people at Mock Funding are the
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: high integrity business solution. They're the ones that will really
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: work with you to understand what you need to do
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: and how you need to do it. And Tony, I
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: just appreciate that because I don't ever want to recommend
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: the people that listen to me to go to people
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: that I don't know and wouldn't trust myself. And I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: love these guys. I love what they're about. I love
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: the way they do it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: 888-462-9442.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: 888-462-9442.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: 888-462-9442.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: And the really interesting thing here is that you guys
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: are the hardest working group I've ever met. You're working
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: around the clock and you're ready to talk to people
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: no matter what time they call.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 13: You know, Fred's real takeaway here is understanding your situation.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 13: Sometimes borrowing money isn't the answer. Sometimes it's a matter
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 13: of saving money or planning yourself accordingly.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 10: We're not afraid to walk away from a transaction.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 13: First thing we like to do is just have a conversation,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 13: understand your situation before you hand over any information, any
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 13: other sensitive information or paperwork to us.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: If it makes sense, then we'll move forward. If not,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: we will tell you.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: So when you're thinking about that expansion or what you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: want to do with your small company, 888-462-9442, call Tony
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: and the team, ask about revenue-based funding and how that's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: different than SBA, how that's different than banks. But they'll
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: be able to work with you, whatever your needs. 888-462-9442, 888-462-9442. Tony,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: thank you as always. We'll see you again next Monday.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: Thank you, guys. Looking forward to it.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back from New York.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: We'll be right back.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: Stick around for more of That Kevin next. Here he is,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough, 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. That phone number very
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: simply helps you liberate a human slave. Whoa, hold on
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: a second, Kev. What's that about? Human slavery. It's more
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: populous today than it has ever been in human history. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: I thought we had abolition. I thought that the slaves
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: were set free. Maybe in the West, maybe because of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: the influence of Christianity, maybe because, yes, there was a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: season in which these cultures woke up and said, we
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: got to stop doing this. But friends, in much of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: the rest of the world, slavery continues on in a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: horrific fashion. And it varies where you are. In some places,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: it's indentured servitude where children of people who owed a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: lot of money and those people died are now in
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: essence slaves of those that are making bricks and they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: work 20 hours a day with four hours of sleep
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: and almost nothing to eat. There are others that it's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: just pure sex trafficking. They just take minors and they
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: just make them do what they want them to do.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: In the case of what we're talking about with the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: slaves of Sudan, it's a little bit of all of that.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: It's forced labor. It's sexual abuse. It's spiritual abuse. It's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: mental abuse. It's physical abuse. It's verbal abuse. Like if
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: you can be abused in any way possible, a Sudanese
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: slave has been abused in that way. And that's why
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: this Christmas, I want to give these women the best
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Christmas gift we could ever give them, which is their
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: liberation and a brand new life. And Todd Chapman is
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: back with us from Christian Solidarity International. But Todd, you
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: think about it, this bag of hope, it comes loaded
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: with food for a year, seed for another year's worth
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: of food. They eat this grain called sorghum. It has
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: all these gadgets and trinkets and things that they need
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: to help clean and fish and do gardening with and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. It gives them it's really not just
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: a bag. It's several bags. But you've got blankets and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: tarps and things to protect from weather. And then on
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: top of everything else that's in there, there's a dairy
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: she goat that gives milk that they are given as
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: their own and they get to take it. And when
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: they receive this, it's like they've won the biggest lottery
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: that you can imagine. Imagine Todd Chapman winning the billion
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: dollar lottery in the state of Michigan. This would be
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: the equivalent for one of these slaves because they've had
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: so little of nothing to themselves. And it gives them
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: everything to start the new life over. And that's what
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: the $ 250 to Christian Solidarity International provides every single one
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's such a beautiful opportunity that we have. And,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: you know, with the expansion of that Kevin show on
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: to so many new stations in the last year. Even
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: though Kevin and I have been bringing this in front
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: of listeners for years, it's so awesome that there's a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: whole new bunch of people that have probably never heard
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: about this before. And so would you lean in just
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: for a second? And would you just prayerfully, seriously, don't say,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: you know, flippantly, I'll pray about it. Would you seriously, intentionally,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: prayerfully ask what God would have you do? Because God
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: does not bring opportunities across our path on accident. As
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: a matter of fact, Ephesians 2.10, one of my favorite
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: verses in the Bible, you are God's masterpiece. created in
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: advance for you to do. What an awesome verse, man.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, number one, you're a masterpiece of God.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: He created you. He redeemed you through his son. And
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: then he has good things for you to do in
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: the world. This might be, and I really believe it is,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: if you're hearing this, I just believe that you don't
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: have to agree.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: It's what I believe.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: I'm going to put it out there. I think this
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: is one of those good deeds that God ordained for
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: you to do. Free a human being in the name
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: of Jesus, return them to their home country, return them
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: oftentimes to their community, sometimes even reunite them with a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: family that they were taken from decades ago. I'm looking
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: at a toke story. She was out collecting firewood near
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: her village when she was a young girl. And she,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: this is kind of weird, but she had climbed a
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: tree to take a nap or something. I guess maybe
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: she was afraid of staying on the ground, but She
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: wakes up from her nap on the tree limb, looks down.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: There's five armed men that got guns pointing at her.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: And they're like, come down here. And now she's taken to,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: you know, up north to Sudan, where she's put to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: work doing every, you know, just junky, hard job you
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: can imagine. She's enslaved, sexually abused. This goes on for
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: 19 years. And the whole time she's praying silently to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: herself at night while she's working all day. round-the-clock prayer saying, God,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: would you free me? Would you rescue me? Would you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: deliver me? And God finally heard her prayer. One of
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: our slave retrievers, and they work all year round, by
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: the way, just, you know, looking for these slaves and
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: then negotiating their release. And now she is back in
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: South Sudan. She got her bag of hope, and she's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: so excited about the opportunity to have her life begin.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I just want to say, one of the
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: things when they get back to the camp, the liberation
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: camp in South Sudan, and they're given plenty of time
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: to get medical attention and sometimes counseling and some other
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: things they may need. They get to tell their story.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: They've never been able to tell their story to anyone
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: or to talk about it in any way. So to
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: verbalize it and to kind of document it, to help
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: them remember what their given name was from birth, if
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: they can, and kind of trace where their, where their
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: family comes from. But in that they begin to find
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: solidarity with one another, with other slaves who've been through
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: similar experiences. And if, if CSI can't find their physical
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: human family, Because many times they were shot and killed
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: in front of them, traumatizing them further as they were
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: taken into slavery. They watched their own parents be executed
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: or they watched their mom be gang raped by slaves
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: or by slave masters. These horrible things are all there.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: If they can't find the human family, then what they've
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: begun is these wonderful communities of these women who have
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: lived this life together, understand what each other has gone through.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: And in Christian community now, related to churches in places
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: in South Sudan, they get to have these communities of
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: women that live together joyously, rejoicing for their freedom and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: being able to start their lives over again. And imagine
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: like the most meaningful small group you've ever been part of.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: This is that on steroids. Like there's so much support there.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: And then the churches, the churches just, I mean, they
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: make the prodigal son's return home look silly. Like it's just,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: they're so rejoiced over when they come home. Friends, that's
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: the gift you get to give them this year for $ 250.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: $ 250 liberates one life. How many lives will you liberate
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: right now? Go to thatkevinshow.com, click the CSI banner, or
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: dial 888-342-1010. From New York.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: That Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: All right, it's Money Monday. We continue to try to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: help you be a wise steward with what you work
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: so hard to earn every week. Thank you for being
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: with us. Hilary Kramer is back with me. We love
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: to look at what's going on in the stock world
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: with Hilary. Hilary is a famous picker of stocks. And Hilary,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: you've picked a selection of stocks for us today that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: are high-yielding. Talk to us about that. these great selections
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: you got for us.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: First, let me explain. Because now a 10-year treasury will yield.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 14: You 2% more than it would a year ago, there's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 14: a lot of transferring from stocks that give dividends to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 14: buying treasury and to buying bonds.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: But those companies that have high dividend yields... and their
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: stock prices have gone down because people just sold to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: make this rotation, I still think you're better off buying
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: a stock. Buy a company that gives you a high
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: dividend yield and which is going to underlying make you
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: money because not only are you going to get your 6% plus,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: we're going to go through these right now, you'll also
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: have the opportunity for the underlying stock to rise in value. Okay,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: so that's what I'm giving you. And we're going to
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: start with something that's going to be near and dear
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: to all of us. And that's Enterprise Products Partners, EPD.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: E as in enterprise, P as in products, D as
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: in department, EPD. Okay. Enterprise transports, processes, stores, and exports.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 9: You got it.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: Natural gas, oil, and natural gas liquids, NGL.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: They do specifically propane for heating and ethane used to
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: make plastics. We are going into the winter months. Propane
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: is going to be very important. Here is a stock
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: that will give you a 6.2% dividend yield.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: 6.2%. In the last 12 months, the stock is up 17%.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: I see it rising even more.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Look, it's just a.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: Very, very compelling one to buy because of also there's
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: going to be growing manufacturing needs. So it's not just
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: propane for heating, but as I said, ethane use for
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: making plastics. We're not going to stay in a low
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: demand environment forever. Now, Enbridge, ENB. as in Edgar, Nancy, Bravo.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: This is pipelines and natural gas utilities. Enbridge has 7.2
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: million customers across North America. Again, heating, manufacturing, electricity generation,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: they all support demand for Enbridge. And Enbridge, you have
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: almost a 6%, a 5.9% dividend yield. And the stock, look,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: the stock is only up 2% in the last year.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: And even if it doesn't rise more than that, look,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: I'll take 6% any day of the week. Here's a
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: REIT that I really like. Realty income. Been around a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: long time. O. O as in Oscar. So I think
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: we are going into a recessionary environment. At the very least,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry to say we are in an environment already
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: where there's the 2% and the 98%. And the 98%
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: was fine because it used to be that there was
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: some money there. But the money is drying up because
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: the AI jobs are starting to really hit more.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: People.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: People are losing their jobs and not getting new jobs.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: So we can talk about that at some point, but
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: I just want people to make money. So if you're
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: someone who's going to be losing your job, whatever money
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: they're going to be giving you, put into realty income, oh,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: get that 6%. Hopefully the stock itself will rise as well.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: Here's one, Verizon, which is a little bit at 6.8%,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: the dividend yield. I couldn't help but bringing it in here.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: Stock's only up to 2.2% over the course of the year. Now,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: we're having a lot of trouble in New York and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: New Jersey with Verizon and dropped lines, dropped communication. But
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: I think Verizon is going to fix that.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Plus, there's a big moat.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: It's not so easy just to change from Verizon to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: another wireless phone service. And, of course, Fios has the broadband,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: the wireless home internet online. There's going to be Starlink
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: and there's going to be some competition there. But that
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  Speaker 6: quarterly dividend that comes in, you can't beat it. It's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: actually kind of amazing, 6.8%. I don't usually say this.
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  Speaker 6: But it wasn't until I was doing some heavy-duty work
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  Speaker 6: the last few days with my team, Scott and I,
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  Speaker 6: really trying to figure out what to be buying, what
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  Speaker 6: to tell people to go in, that I realized Verizon
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  Speaker 6: is one for us to all go in. The reason
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: the stock doesn't perform is that there's a lot of debt.
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  Speaker 4: It costs a lot of money.
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  Speaker 6: To build out and build wireless, okay? And then they
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  Speaker 6: have to stay competitive, so sometimes their prices drop. Here's one, Pfizer, P-F-E.
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  Speaker 6: We all know Pfizer, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: There's Prednar for pneumococcal vaccines, okay, for pneumonia. There's Ebron
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: for breast cancer. There's Vindamax for cardiac conditions. And everyone's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: heard of Eliquis. That's the blood thinner that's commercialized along
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: with Bristol-Myers squid, which never seems to go anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Pfizer.
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  Speaker 6: PFD, that's where you want to be. The stock's up
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  Speaker 6: almost 14% on the year. You get a 6.1% dividend yield.
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  Speaker 6: You couldn't ask for anything more than that. That is
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: going to give you, it's going to be like good
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: as gold. And then lastly, hey, we're going to be
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  Speaker 6: going into Christmas season. Let's talk about UPS. It's delivery
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  Speaker 6: and there's a healthcare opportunity here. First of all, let
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  Speaker 6: me do the dividend yield.
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  Speaker 10: Almost 7% by UPS. Wow.
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  Speaker 6: So buy Verizon, buy Pfizer, buy UPS. So it's partial delivery.
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  Speaker 8: We all know that.
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  Speaker 6: We all know it's international express shipping and logistics. But
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  Speaker 6: UPS has really come to specialize in temperature control delivery
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  Speaker 6: of medicines and other health care products that require refrigeration.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: Let's start with the GLP-1s. Yeah, we are going to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: GLP's pills instead. But there's a lot of refrigerated needs there.
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  Speaker 6: for medications and therapeutics. So that's going to provide better
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: margins for this company, and UPS is only up to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: less than 5% on the year. Again, I'm going to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: repeat it, almost a 7% dividend yield. Its delivery network
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: is impossible to replicate. UPS Healthcare Logistics offers this durable
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: growth opportunity, and you get income here. true, true income.
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  Speaker 6: So I want everyone to think about UPS, Pfizer, Verizon,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: Realty Income. And of course, I really do like Enbridge
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: and Enterprise Product Partners, EPD especially, because there is just
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: such a strong demand for propane.
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  Speaker 3: And on that note, friends, Hillary will have all of
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  Speaker 3: these listed at her LinkedIn, along with some others that
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  Speaker 3: she's going to give us. We don't have time today,
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  Speaker 3: but she's going to be giving us an insight on
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: a data storage option. She did this with ScanDisk two
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  Speaker 3: years ago, and it went up 600%. She feels very
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  Speaker 3: good about something she's going to tell us about next time.
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  Speaker 3: But join her LinkedIn, Hillary Kramer. LinkedIn at Hillary Kramer.
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  Speaker 3: Go and check her out there. She'll have this list
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  Speaker 3: of high dividend yields and also more notes on that
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  Speaker 3: data storage option that you're going to want to know
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  Speaker 3: more about. Hillary, always appreciate it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Have a wonderful week. Everyone be well, be healthy, be safe.
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  Speaker 8: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
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  Speaker 11: Next. Serving it up with a no-drink minimum.
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  Speaker 8: It's That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Kevin McCullough, final few minutes of the Monday edition.
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  Speaker 4: Disrespect for women.
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  Speaker 15: You can't send those messages, no matter how drunk you
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  Speaker 15: are as a frat boy, without having some kind of
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  Speaker 15: misunderstanding about what women are there for. You know, we
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  Speaker 15: can go to the president for this one. I mean,
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  Speaker 15: we are in a moment in this culture where the
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  Speaker 15: glorification of being thuggish and swaggering and mistreating women is
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  Speaker 15: kind of making you a cool kid.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, it's not doing anything of the sort, and to
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  Speaker 3: blame the Cornell 7, which is what Michelle Cottle of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: ABC News this week was saying there, is kind of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: absurd because Joe Biden was president at the time that
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: the Cornell 7 event happened. But aside from that, this
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  Speaker 3: is an interesting argument that I have not heard the
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  Speaker 3: feminists among us, the progressives among us, the progressive feminists,
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  Speaker 3: the man-haters among us make. She said that you cannot
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  Speaker 3: be in any way not responsible for the messages you send,
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  Speaker 3: no matter how drunk you are, if you are a boy.
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  Speaker 3: That's an interesting statement, because the argument you're making for
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: the Jane Doe in the And that's what she's arguing.
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  Speaker 3: The girl in the case has never argued that the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: boys came in and held her down and did stuff
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  Speaker 3: to her against her will. Her argument is that she
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  Speaker 3: was too incapacitated to object to what happened. And yet, Ms.
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  Speaker 3: Cottle is saying that the boys could not have been
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  Speaker 3: too incapacitated to send texts the following day. Now, look,
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  Speaker 3: all of this behavior to me is debauchery. And if
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  Speaker 3: any of my children were involved in it, which I
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: pray to God never happens, I would be having very
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: private conversations with them about what went wrong and what
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  Speaker 3: we are not about. But if you wait until then,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: it's way too late. train up a child in the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: way they should go. But this is a, this is
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  Speaker 3: a terrible argument for this woman to be making because
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  Speaker 3: what she's saying basically is that men can be inebriated
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: and responsible and women can be inebriated and not responsible.
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  Speaker 3: In other words, she's drawing a line that is saying
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: that men are in some ways stronger and more capable
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: than women are. She would deny that. She would say,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: that's not what I'm arguing, but that is what her
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: argument argues on its own. If it does not matter
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  Speaker 3: how drunk the boys were when they sent texts following
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: the events that occurred, and you want to hold them
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  Speaker 3: responsible for the things that they texted, no matter how
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: drunk they were, that's fair. But that same standard should
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  Speaker 3: apply to the woman who's now changed her story from
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: two years ago when she said that, nothing illegal and
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: nothing inappropriate happened and that she actually enjoyed it. And
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: now two years later, when there's a sniff of a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: payday and some other things, she's changing, she's changing it
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  Speaker 3: up while still arguing that she was too incapacitated to object.
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  Speaker 3: You can't, you can't say one group can be so
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: drunk that they can't be responsible. And yet the other
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: group can't be that drunk and still be held responsible.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: It's just a, it's a dishonest argument. And, What we
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: really need to be doing is aiming much higher than
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: this all the way around. We need to be aiming
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: for the things that are good. We need to be
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: teaching our children to aim for the very best. The
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: reason that I am not really keen on the American
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: university experience is that this has too great of a
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  Speaker 3: possibility for happening. I want my kids to think. I
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: want them to make critically good decisions and I want
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: them to honor the God that they've all given their
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: life to. But this argument is not going to pass muster.
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  Speaker 3: The boys can't be so drunk and not responsible and
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: she be so drunk and be responsible and vice versa.
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  Speaker 3: It's one standard across the board. Kevin McCullough, we'll see
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  Speaker 3: you next time.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you