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309: Sister Wives Recap - One on One Part 3 (S20 E18) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: In now, before we get into this recap, I do
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Speaker 1: have to ask you, my darling, whether you had to
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Speaker 1: take away after this third installment the tell nothings.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be negative, but I kind of
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Speaker 2: hate everybody, but especially like Janelle. This episode she made
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Speaker 2: me really upset because she's like thinking Cody's apologies not
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Speaker 2: only to her but to marry were genuine and sincere,
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Speaker 2: and then she's like dogging on David for his polygamy thing,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're not even in it anymore. I'm
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Speaker 2: just like, you knowe. She's calling Mary sharp because of
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Speaker 2: how she reacted to Cody and her apology, and I'm
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Speaker 2: just like, Jenelle.
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Speaker 1: Go away. She's behaving like a woman under the constraints
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Speaker 1: of an nda is Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think so as well.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: I actually have two takeaways.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: My first takeaway concerns the actual one on one Tail
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Speaker 1: Nothing's because I just didn't feel the vibration that we
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Speaker 1: were actually concluding it next week with our fourth installment,
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Speaker 1: and it kind of just felt a little bit like
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Speaker 1: we might have a fifth stop it episode of the
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Speaker 1: Tail Nothing. I'm probably wrong. They did mention the catfish. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in the preview, but they didn't give it a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of energy, and I thought we would. I just
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Speaker 1: suspect that we might have two more, not just yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: that's my first thought. What do y'all think? And my
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Speaker 1: second thought kind of intersects a little bit with your
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Speaker 1: Janelle observation as it concerns David. I'm annoyed with David
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Speaker 1: why because he's coming across as a clout goblin, somebody
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Speaker 1: who really cannot wait to insert himself into the conversation
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Speaker 1: and for some reason does consider himself an expert on polygamy.
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Speaker 1: And granted, yes, he went to Mexico when he was
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Speaker 1: two and he saw some terrible things when he was
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Speaker 1: down there visiting his family or whatever, but the fact remains,
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Speaker 1: you were never a polygamist. You're hearing secondhand information from
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Speaker 1: your wife who obviously had a terrible experience. And I
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Speaker 1: think polygamy is bad. Yeah, I think it should be
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Speaker 1: a crime, and maybe I think it is a crime. Whatever,
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Speaker 1: it's wrong, and I think it's bad for women and children.
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Speaker 1: But like just the way he keeps needing to talk
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Speaker 1: about Cody's ego, which is fair, but like he needs
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Speaker 1: to be the one to make all of these points.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, sit down, boomer geriatric person, no offense,
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Speaker 1: I'm a boomer geriatric person, but like, sit down, let
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Speaker 1: your wife talk. She's the one who has the lived experience.
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Speaker 1: We don't need to hear your interpretation of a lived
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Speaker 1: experience that you weren't even there to observe. I an't
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Speaker 1: always bothering me. He's bothering all week, stuck in the ice,
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Speaker 1: just frozen like Hans Solo to think about it, and
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that I like him. I
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Speaker 1: don't like Christine either. Yeah, And somebody asked on the
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Speaker 1: Rudd It's like, why is she on the show?
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 1: Point to see them in their airbnb's in the basement
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Speaker 1: having chats about polygamy, doing their boring things. I don't
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Speaker 1: care about you guys at all, unless you're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about like some details with specificity. Yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about you. I don't care about you.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about you. Oh, bien, get it, get
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Speaker 1: a move on now, keep it moving. That's me take away, Sorry,
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Speaker 1: hot take, Sorry about it? Wow, sorry about it. That's
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Speaker 1: how I feel.
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Speaker 2: Well, let us know what y'all think in the comments
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Speaker 2: below about that.
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Now, without any further ado, let's get into
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Speaker 1: a Sister Wives season twenty pause, honey, pause right here,
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Speaker 1: because I do have to just say that I was
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Speaker 1: watching just a little snippet of the Sarah Fraser podcast
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Speaker 1: in which she was interviewing our very own Sukiana sou Kanya.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw clips of this, and Sukanya said
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Speaker 1: that she thinks there is going to be another wife
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Speaker 1: introduced with Cody and Robin.
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Speaker 2: That's wild.
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Speaker 1: It's sou Kanya's opinion that they actually love polygamy and
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Speaker 1: they're going to start looking for another partner. And I
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Speaker 1: just thought that was wild, because of course we've got
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Speaker 1: Cody just frothing at the mouth about how much she
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Speaker 1: hates polygamy and he wants to be a monogamist. But
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Speaker 1: I do think they're interpreting the writing on the wall
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Speaker 1: and they realize unless they do something with some drama
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Speaker 1: and impact people other than us because it's our Yeah,
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Speaker 1: people are gonna stop watching this show.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god. So they're just gonna like fake court
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Speaker 2: or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Conye say that with a lot of confidence. By the way,
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Speaker 1: it's not like she said it like, yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: maybe I think they could. She said, I think they will.
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Speaker 2: Well, but she's also I mean, are we gonna take
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Speaker 2: her seriously? Because she also thinks that like Cody's apologies
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Speaker 2: were somewhat sincere as well, and she kind of cops
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Speaker 2: for him a bit. Well.
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Speaker 1: Why though, Maybe it's because they've kind of brought her
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Speaker 1: into their little inner circle or whatever. Maybe she's privy
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Speaker 1: to information that maybe she's heard some chatter, some Mormon
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Speaker 1: chatter about an additional woman coming into the family. Listen,
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Speaker 1: if that happened, I would die. I would ship into
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Speaker 1: this room every week and sit my fat ass down
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Speaker 1: and talk about it. I would live, I would laugh,
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Speaker 1: and I would love that.
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Speaker 2: It would be pretty great to watch Robin get all
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Speaker 2: jealous too. I would love.
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Speaker 1: There's very few things I can think of that I
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Speaker 1: would love.
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Speaker 2: More than that.
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Speaker 1: I would love that we would eat the juicy treasure
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Speaker 1: the dumpster. Anyway, I had to say that. So now
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Speaker 1: back to our recap of Sister Wife Season twenty. Bitchhitch,
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Speaker 1: episode eighteen. I don't know of the one on one tail,
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Speaker 1: Nothing's take it away, boltros.
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Speaker 2: This was probably my least favorite one on one so
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Speaker 2: far because we didn't really get in. I mean, we
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Speaker 2: got into some stuff, but it was a lot of
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Speaker 2: like rehashing the past and like watching clips that we
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Speaker 2: why but we recap last week's conversation about Christine's apology,
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Speaker 2: and this is where David's like going on his little
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Speaker 2: rant about Cody and how he shouldn't have said he
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Speaker 2: loved her and also says it wasn't appropriate. She said specifically,
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Speaker 2: Cody should have just came there, I apologized for my
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Speaker 2: actions and then left. He shouldn't have said, oh so
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Speaker 2: I love too, because that was inappropriate. And you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of agree with that sentiment because
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Speaker 2: if Cody was really wanting to apologize, he should have
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Speaker 2: just said, I'm sorry for being a major piece of shit,
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Speaker 2: asshole demon. Okay, bye.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I stand by what I said previously, which
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Speaker 1: was if you said it in a public fashion on
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Speaker 1: a national platform, if I said I didn't love her,
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Speaker 1: I never loved her, I wasn't attracted to her, then
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Speaker 1: on that same public platform and in front of the
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Speaker 1: same people, I'm going to take that back if it
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Speaker 1: was a lie. And I kind of decided with hard
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Speaker 1: face Robin about this when Well, when she was talking
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Speaker 1: about David actually be there, like Cody thought about it
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Speaker 1: and wanted to be appropriate, and so it was an
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Speaker 1: interesting take on something that they I found so terribly
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Speaker 1: inappropriate with something he did. In order to keep it appropriate,
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Speaker 1: I could see that it makes sense. But mainly my
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Speaker 1: thought is, who fucking cares? Who fucky cares well that
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Speaker 1: he apologized in the way that he did. You just
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Speaker 1: sat there, you took it, you went speed car racing,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Why are you so upset David Well?
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, why are we stretching it out over
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Speaker 2: to tell as Like we could have just finished that
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Speaker 2: last week and been done with it and gotten to
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Speaker 2: some more interesting conversations, but like, no, we had to
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Speaker 2: continue on this whole, like we're offended. I think it's
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Speaker 2: because Christine and David had nothing else to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Mm hm.
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Speaker 2: I feel like there was nothing else. There was no
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Speaker 2: other clips to like rehash with them, and so they
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Speaker 2: needed some kind of talking point, maybe to get their
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Speaker 2: bag or something. I don't know. I thought it was
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Speaker 2: interesting how Robin seemed a little I don't know, like
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Speaker 2: defensive over the fact that Christine was offended by it.
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Speaker 2: Because I think Robin wrote Cody's apology script, and so
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Speaker 2: I feel like she felt a little like personally offended,
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Speaker 2: Like I get it, Yeah, what do you mean my apology?
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Speaker 2: I mean Cody's apology was really great and thoughtful, and like,
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Speaker 2: what the hell Christine? I thought that was kind of interesting.
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Speaker 2: And then Suki asks Cody like, could you ever be
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Speaker 2: friends with Christine? And he kind of like walks around
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Speaker 2: this a little. He's like, well, I mean we could.
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Speaker 2: We should be friends, We should be friendly, but only
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Speaker 2: if trust can be resurrected.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what about your pardon?
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Speaker 2: Hello?
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Speaker 1: What about all the things that you did? What about
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Speaker 1: all the things that you allegedly stole from this family,
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Speaker 1: including Christine? What about all the things that you put
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Speaker 1: her through? How are you going to resurrect the trust? Cody?
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Speaker 1: But it's never a conversation about that ever, is It's
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Speaker 1: always a conversation about what everybody else has to do
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Speaker 1: in order for the relationship to be healed.
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Speaker 2: He's just such a bitch.
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Speaker 1: Is such an eep bitchhit bitch, such a little bitch.
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Speaker 2: And then he also says that the reason and why
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Speaker 2: he chose Janelle first was because he knew that she
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Speaker 2: would be the safest one to apologize to, she'd be
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Speaker 2: the most receptive, and she'd be the kindest. And then
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Speaker 2: this kind of segues into a flashback of Janelle's apology
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Speaker 2: to Cody. I'm just like, why do we have to
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Speaker 2: like watch we already watched everythingle apology. Anyway, we flashed
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Speaker 2: back to Janelle's apology where Janelle was totally making goo
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Speaker 2: google guys to Cody.
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Speaker 1: She was googling those eyes.
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Speaker 2: She was googling them eyes hardcore. And we talk about it,
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Speaker 2: and this is Cody reflecting on the early years about
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Speaker 2: how he didn't protect Janelle from Mary's rass and the
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Speaker 2: unsafe environment that they were in because they were all
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Speaker 2: nude to believe, I.
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Speaker 1: Did appreciate his turn of phrase when he said that
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Speaker 1: it was Janelle who wanted to be a safe space
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Speaker 1: for him. That was interesting because that made me think
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Speaker 1: that Mary was just off her ever loving rocker. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: screaming and yelling and being emotionally unregulated. And so not
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Speaker 1: only does Cody have regrets about not protecting Janelle, but
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Speaker 1: Janelle also at the time was like, come to my bedroom. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: put your head on my bus side a little bit
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Speaker 1: while you're here. But let me comfort you because it
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Speaker 1: was a weird, toxic and of volatile environment is what
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Speaker 1: it sounds like. And you know what, just to skip
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Speaker 1: ahead for a second. Yeah, when Mary was talking about
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Speaker 1: those days, I don't think she took enough responsibility. I agree. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I cry, and I'm sure it was
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Speaker 1: my reaction because I was emotional. I'm like, but did
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Speaker 1: sometimes you did? Sometimes you hit?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Did? Sometimes you scream? Did sometimes you scare people? Did
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Speaker 1: sometimes you emotionally abuse children? Yeah? Why don't we talk
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Speaker 1: about that, Mary? Why don't we worthy up in that regard? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of interesting because she definitely
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Speaker 2: danced around her responsibility with that. But I will say
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Speaker 2: I do agree with her in the sense of Cody
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Speaker 2: and Janelle probably weren't as empathetic to her and how
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Speaker 2: she was feeling, or that the fact that she would
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Speaker 2: have an array of emotions. She did say at one
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Speaker 2: point like I wasn't it wasn't okay and how I reacted,
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Speaker 2: So she had admitted to that, but then she justified
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Speaker 2: it by saying, but I had a lot of emotions.
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Speaker 2: Though I had a lot of fiefees and they were hurt,
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Speaker 2: and I.
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Speaker 1: Was wrong to have fiefees, right, I don't know. What
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Speaker 1: I'm like, was that you were wrong. It sounds like
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Speaker 1: you were crazy.
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Speaker 2: And that's like the thing. It's like it's a it's
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Speaker 2: a double edged sword because it's like, yeah, you are okay,
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Speaker 2: Like you're valid to have the feelings of betrayal because
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Speaker 2: Janelle broke up with her your brother to get with
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Speaker 2: yo man and was making these inappropriate comments.
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Speaker 1: About my kids to have his bill ewa ewa.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's weird and awkward, shady. So like I
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Speaker 2: agree with Mary on that. I understand that it would
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Speaker 2: have been a really tense, awkward time. And and then
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Speaker 2: watching Cody and Janelle just pump out those babies one
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Speaker 2: after the other and she couldn't have a kid of
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Speaker 2: her own for many years after that, Like I get it,
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that you can be an abusive, volatile,
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Speaker 2: emotionally unregulated person. Correct, That's like that's the thing. But
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Speaker 2: like this whole conversation to me, like it was interesting,
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Speaker 2: but it was kind of annoying because I'm just like, man,
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Speaker 2: this is just stuff in the past. Why can't we
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Speaker 2: talk about stuff that happened.
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Speaker 1: Because there's nothing happening, but like.
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Speaker 2: We could talk about what happened like a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago, or like what happened with Garrison.
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Speaker 1: Or Cody doesn't want to talk about that. So that's
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Speaker 1: the stuff that I think is under the purview of
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Speaker 1: the NDA. He doesn't want to talk about the children
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Speaker 1: at all. He doesn't want to talk about the money
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Speaker 1: at all. I mean he did a little bit like
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Speaker 1: the last episode, and I was, you know, TRN sixed
15:46
Speaker 1: was trying to get information, but they have but beyond that,
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Speaker 1: they've gotten nothing going on other than they're scripted. I
15:54
Speaker 1: get produced and manufactured scenes that are boring af well,
15:58
Speaker 1: And like.
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Speaker 2: What was annoying for me and this whole Janelle apology thing,
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Speaker 2: Like Janelle said, the most healing part for her with
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Speaker 2: Cody's apology was him apologizing for their early years. And
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Speaker 2: I'm like, what about your kids? Though I don't know
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Speaker 2: the stuff that thirty years ago was the most healing
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Speaker 2: for you. I mean I understand, like there was probably
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Speaker 2: a lot of hurt and a lot of trauma. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: like they were failed from the start. I get it,
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Speaker 2: but like that was the most healing part for you,
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Speaker 2: not anything else. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It makes me wonder if she for some reason can't
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Speaker 1: talk about the kids, if maybe that was a part
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Speaker 1: of the NDA, because like, why isn't that your primary
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Speaker 1: your chief complaint as it concerns Cody and Robin is
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Speaker 1: like the mental health and the struggles of your children.
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Speaker 1: And if you did sign an NDA that is keeping
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Speaker 1: you from talking about your kids, then why did you
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Speaker 1: do that? Right? What mother, having witnessed the devastation of
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Speaker 1: a situation like this, would agree, Okay, well, if you
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Speaker 1: give me like one hundred thousand dollars, I won't talk
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Speaker 1: about and take up for my own kids. Right either
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Speaker 1: way you look at it, it's problematic on Janelle's part.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, and that was what was frustrating for me. But
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Speaker 2: it was interesting to hear them talk about, like the
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Speaker 2: conflicts between her and Mary and like how Cody did
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Speaker 2: a terrible job at being a referee. I mean he think,
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Speaker 2: I think he says something like I should have been
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Speaker 2: a referee, but I'm a terrible referee. And there was
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Speaker 2: so much conflict, like between introducing a new wife and
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Speaker 2: having to share these two relationships and then our money
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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, Like, I get it, it was hard.
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Speaker 2: He does admit that he should have done better, which
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Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. He said something though, like I
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Speaker 2: don't know what I could have done, but I'm sorry
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Speaker 2: that I didn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, and I hate that.
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Speaker 2: You could have reflected on it.
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Speaker 1: You could have thought about it. Yeah, you've had thirty
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Speaker 1: some odd years. Yeah, to take your own inventory if
17:50
Speaker 1: you actually want to be a better person on the planet. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: especially when you're putting yourself out there on this show.
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Speaker 1: But he doesn't want to actually go into the details.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to expose the things that he did wrong,
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Speaker 1: so he just sweeps with this really broad brush and
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Speaker 1: that's what makes his apologies kind of ring hollow to me,
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Speaker 1: because I'm not willing, though, to hear everything Mary might
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Speaker 1: have to say, Like, if I've done something to you,
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Speaker 1: for real, I have to be willing to sit in
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Speaker 1: the space of that and let you feel however you
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Speaker 1: feel respond if I'm initiating a conversation, ye, and then
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Speaker 1: respect your decision whether you're gonna forgive me or not.
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Speaker 1: But like, you have space in that conversation, but there's
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Speaker 1: no space for anybody else, because he's really not interested
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Speaker 1: in forgiveness or even the apology.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what was kind of annoying for me is
18:41
Speaker 2: like watching Janelle's apology back, like she just kind of
18:44
Speaker 2: gives in to that dynamic with Cody. I think there
18:47
Speaker 2: were parts, like little colonels where he was kind of
18:49
Speaker 2: genuine or whatever, but he does kind of gloss over things.
18:52
Speaker 2: He doesn't take real accountability for a lot of it,
18:55
Speaker 2: and Janelle just kind of is like, oh, that's so nice,
18:58
Speaker 2: it's so healing, Like she just gives in to it
19:01
Speaker 2: instead of pushing him on it, which was what Mary
19:03
Speaker 2: did in her apology a little bit.
19:05
Speaker 1: Thank god.
19:06
Speaker 2: I know.
19:07
Speaker 1: Before we move on, we do have to talk about
19:09
Speaker 1: Mary and Janelle and their little war of.
19:13
Speaker 2: The rose with the dishes and stuff.
19:14
Speaker 1: What did you think when Janelle said that Mary didn't
19:18
Speaker 1: like when she put food down the disposal, and so
19:22
Speaker 1: then she put more food down the disposal.
19:24
Speaker 2: See, this is what I'm saying. It's like both of
19:27
Speaker 2: them were going at each other, So it was maybe
19:30
Speaker 2: it wasn't always Mary, and maybe Mary got pissed the
19:33
Speaker 2: fuck off because Janelle was being passive aggressive like that
19:36
Speaker 2: and doing things to get back at her. But I
19:39
Speaker 2: mean they both kind of talk about it like that
19:41
Speaker 2: was stupid stuff that we thought was so important back
19:43
Speaker 2: then and now it's not important anymore. But I'm like,
19:48
Speaker 2: but you talk about your past as if it's like
19:50
Speaker 2: two different things. Either it's stupid childish issues that don't matter,
19:55
Speaker 2: or it was volatile abuse, Like what is it? Don't know.
20:00
Speaker 2: I think Mary was probably nitpicky as fuck.
20:04
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, what did you think about her requirement that
20:06
Speaker 1: the dishes get done the night before versus Janelle wanting
20:08
Speaker 1: to do them in the morning.
20:10
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the context of that. Was Janelle always
20:14
Speaker 2: wanted to leave the dishes just sitting there rotten in
20:16
Speaker 2: the sink at night?
20:18
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like that was her predisposition, Like she
20:20
Speaker 1: didn't mind. She'd rather wake up fresh, lots of energy
20:23
Speaker 1: do the dishes than for a huge ass family.
20:25
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, And was Janelle working at the time,
20:28
Speaker 2: Like that's the question too, Like that's true. Was she
20:31
Speaker 2: coming home after a long day of work and like
20:33
Speaker 2: just didn't want to do the dishes.
20:35
Speaker 1: I think back in the early days, Mary was working too,
20:38
Speaker 1: so I think maybe. But to me, I'm just going
20:41
Speaker 1: to stand on this particular business, like, I am not
20:44
Speaker 1: shutting down my kitchen for the night with a whole
20:46
Speaker 1: bunch of bullshit. Yes, say in my kitchen, I don't
20:49
Speaker 1: even want to see one grain of rice on my counter.
20:52
Speaker 1: And so, of course, my big baboos of a husband
20:57
Speaker 1: drinking whiskey on a Friday night at one am while
21:00
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping, We'll go in there and just start rummaging
21:02
Speaker 1: through the cheetos.
21:03
Speaker 2: And a mess. And so then you're like Mary Brown
21:07
Speaker 2: and You're.
21:07
Speaker 1: Like, I'm seething. I'm seething. Sometimes I'll catch him and
21:11
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you going to clean this up?
21:12
Speaker 2: Though? That's an Earth sign thing?
21:14
Speaker 1: Is it?
21:14
Speaker 2: Because I get it?
21:15
Speaker 1: And Mary's an Earth sign, but so's Janelle jal To Torris.
21:18
Speaker 1: She's probably in April Tourus.
21:20
Speaker 2: Though probably totally.
21:24
Speaker 1: I don't even know the attributes of an April. I'm
21:27
Speaker 1: a Tourus. We're awesome. But I mean Mary's a Capricorn,
21:31
Speaker 1: also an Earth sign and definitely said in her ways yeah.
21:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I mean I could see like that
21:40
Speaker 2: happening quite frequently, because Janelle does strike me as a
21:43
Speaker 2: little bit lazy, and that would probably get annoying after
21:46
Speaker 2: a while when you're living with somebody in a small
21:48
Speaker 2: trailer and you're like constantly watching them make a mess
21:52
Speaker 2: and not pick up after themselves, like that would get frustrated.
21:54
Speaker 1: And she's the one like pumping out all the kids,
21:56
Speaker 1: so there are a lot of bottles. They're all hers.
21:58
Speaker 1: I'm infertile and stop over here, like clean up your mess, bitch,
22:02
Speaker 1: No exactly.
22:03
Speaker 2: And I think Janelle kind of talks about this, and
22:06
Speaker 2: I do like the way that she articulated it. She said,
22:09
Speaker 2: all this stuff was kind of stupid. It was more
22:11
Speaker 2: of an expression of a symptom. It was like an
22:14
Speaker 2: expression of the conflict that was happening in their relationships
22:18
Speaker 2: with each other. Like it wasn't even about the dishes.
22:21
Speaker 2: It wasn't even about the drain and food going down.
22:24
Speaker 2: It like it was about, Oh, Mary's hurt because I
22:29
Speaker 2: fucked her brother and now I'm fucking her husband. I've
22:32
Speaker 2: got all.
22:32
Speaker 1: These kids curio period period and six seven.
22:36
Speaker 2: That is like that was the symptom of it, and
22:39
Speaker 2: Mary's bitter about it, rightfully. So I mean, can we
22:43
Speaker 2: talk about like Janelle coming into the family and what
22:47
Speaker 2: that meant, because Janelle also talked out of two sides
22:51
Speaker 2: of her mouth with this. At one point she says
22:54
Speaker 2: Mary and Cody pursued her, and then later in the
22:57
Speaker 2: episode she says, oh, I actually pursue. Then they didn't
23:00
Speaker 2: come after me like I wanted to join the family.
23:03
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, what was it?
23:04
Speaker 1: Then, conspiracy theory Cody kind of pursued her and probably yeah, like, oh,
23:10
Speaker 1: Cody hurt that Janelle became available because he happens to
23:14
Speaker 1: be married to Janelle's husband's sister. Yeah, and so maybe
23:17
Speaker 1: he made some googling eyes at Janelle and she fell
23:22
Speaker 1: for him. So maybe there was like a little some
23:24
Speaker 1: sum that's I'm thinking on on the side.
23:26
Speaker 2: Whoever called a couple of weeks ago, I forget the name.
23:28
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but they had said that Janelle was
23:30
Speaker 2: the first Robin. I'm kind of seeing it a little bit. Yes,
23:33
Speaker 2: I'm kind of seeing it a little bit because when
23:34
Speaker 2: Mary says that Janelle and Cody wanted to get married
23:38
Speaker 2: on her birthday, I was surprised by that. Was that
23:41
Speaker 2: in the book somewhere and I just forgot about it? Yeah,
23:43
Speaker 2: and dumb it's.
23:44
Speaker 1: Wait, no, you're not dumb, but it's something we've known
23:47
Speaker 1: for a long time.
23:48
Speaker 2: I was shocked again to hear that. I'm like, wow,
23:51
Speaker 2: that's some dirty shit, right.
23:53
Speaker 1: And when Mary was talking about them saying, well, we'll
23:57
Speaker 1: just celebrate it on another day, yeah, I was asking myself, Will, like,
24:01
Speaker 1: who has to celebrate on the other day? Are you
24:03
Speaker 1: going to make me Mary celebrate my birthday on another day? Yeah?
24:07
Speaker 1: Or are you talking about just moving your aniver? It
24:10
Speaker 1: was cunty, Yes, it was twatty, super tawty even presumed
24:13
Speaker 1: that that would be okay, yep. So there is something
24:16
Speaker 1: wrong from the very beginning with the audacity of Janelle.
24:20
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And so like, I can understand
24:22
Speaker 2: why Mary would be so upset. I don't agree with
24:26
Speaker 2: if she was actually volatile and verbally and maybe physically abusive,
24:30
Speaker 2: because Cody says that she was a scrapper and she
24:32
Speaker 2: would get in your face in front of anybody, in
24:34
Speaker 2: front of anyone and just scream at you.
24:36
Speaker 1: And I'm like, can you imagine young Mary was about it?
24:41
Speaker 2: It was a bitch shit. So like, I don't agree
24:45
Speaker 2: with that, but I can understand being upset and being
24:48
Speaker 2: jealous and being intimidated by this new hot woman coming
24:51
Speaker 2: over and banging your husband and popping out all these kids. Yes, like,
24:54
Speaker 2: I get it, and it would have been nice to have, Suki,
24:57
Speaker 2: I don't know, ask Janelle about that.
25:00
Speaker 1: I would love to know that.
25:01
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have that.
25:02
Speaker 1: Ask a riveting clarifying question.
25:05
Speaker 2: Hey, Janelle, Mary said that you wanted to get married
25:08
Speaker 2: on her birthday? Do you want to talk about that? No,
25:11
Speaker 2: we're not going to ask Janelle or Cody follow up
25:14
Speaker 2: questions about things that are actually interesting. We're just gonna
25:17
Speaker 2: ask Cody about why he thinks Mary's high maintenance, because
25:21
Speaker 2: we get into that too.
25:23
Speaker 1: Which he doesn't even explain. He literally doesn't.
25:26
Speaker 2: He also says something like Mary was more emotionally open
25:31
Speaker 2: to him, but then he doesn't elaborate on what that
25:33
Speaker 2: means at all, even though Suki asks him about it,
25:36
Speaker 2: he just goes on to something else.
25:38
Speaker 1: Salad, I just I don't know.
25:40
Speaker 2: Cody does say something interesting though, where he says if
25:43
Speaker 2: he wasn't ridiculously optimistic in the early years, like they
25:46
Speaker 2: would have never made it, which I thought was kind
25:48
Speaker 2: of I don't know, nice to hear from him, to admit, like,
25:53
Speaker 2: because I think Mary and Janelle hated each other from
25:56
Speaker 2: the gut from the jump.
25:58
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, And I can kind of see that in
26:02
Speaker 1: the early seasons and sister Wripes, I can see this
26:05
Speaker 1: kind of dare I say, innocence about Cody, like really
26:09
Speaker 1: wanting to be a good father, trying to maybe. I
26:12
Speaker 1: mean by the time we get to him in twenty
26:15
Speaker 1: ten or whatever, it was like he's burning out and
26:18
Speaker 1: he can't wait to meet his soul me. But you
26:21
Speaker 1: can kind of see that exuberancing Cody in those early years.
26:24
Speaker 1: So I can see when he marries Mary, what is he?
26:28
Speaker 1: How old is he again?
26:28
Speaker 2: Like two, she's nineteen nineteen.
26:31
Speaker 1: They're so young. And then they marry Janelle and she's
26:35
Speaker 1: what twenty three, twenty four. They're all so very young.
26:38
Speaker 1: They're indoctrinated into a cult system.
26:41
Speaker 2: YEP.
26:42
Speaker 1: They're trying to do their best for the Lord and
26:45
Speaker 1: for the family, and so I can see him really
26:47
Speaker 1: trying to work it out, but also not having any
26:49
Speaker 1: tools because remember he's the son of Wynn Right, who's
26:52
Speaker 1: the ultimate stoic, alpha male, alpha hole rancher, who was
26:57
Speaker 1: not expressive with his love for Cody, like the most
27:02
Speaker 1: endearing thing that he ever did for Cody was give
27:04
Speaker 1: him like a letterman jacket or something, and Cody was
27:06
Speaker 1: like so gobsmacked because his father never expressed that. So
27:09
Speaker 1: he had to figure out for himself how to be
27:12
Speaker 1: a dad like that. Obviously, he got a lot of
27:14
Speaker 1: things wrong, and he just couldn't manage these two turbo
27:18
Speaker 1: bitches fighting all the time about the disposal and the dishes.
27:22
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like he never even tried to
27:24
Speaker 2: manage it. I feel like he probably told Mary to
27:27
Speaker 2: just suck it up and endure till the end, and
27:30
Speaker 2: she does kind of talk about that, and I feel
27:32
Speaker 2: like he went to go to Janelle's room to bang
27:35
Speaker 2: her and eat her pussy out and then complain about Mary.
27:38
Speaker 1: That's too much. I'm just saying, get bridge too.
27:40
Speaker 2: Far, you know. That's what it was, though, Like he
27:44
Speaker 2: probably got tired of Mary.
27:45
Speaker 1: Cody eats the box.
27:47
Speaker 2: I don't think he probably ate Janelle's.
27:49
Speaker 1: But I don't think he ate the box.
27:50
Speaker 2: I think he probably did maybe once or twice with Robin.
27:54
Speaker 1: He was Guba muff diving, he was busy, Guba Muff died.
28:00
Speaker 2: I don't think he ate Janelle's box. With how much
28:02
Speaker 2: he's been in love with her and making googly eyes
28:04
Speaker 2: to her.
28:05
Speaker 1: Take personally, I don't, I feel like, do we see
28:07
Speaker 1: as a collective dumpster Cody being the kind of lover
28:11
Speaker 1: who's generous, well no and can even perform gunny lingo.
28:15
Speaker 2: I didn't say he had to be good at eating
28:17
Speaker 2: the box.
28:17
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I just can't work. I'm sorry. I
28:19
Speaker 1: didn't mean to take us down into a very dark corner,
28:22
Speaker 1: dark alley of awfulness.
28:25
Speaker 2: Pussy eating you said it. I can't even remember what
28:28
Speaker 2: my original point I remember now. I think Cody didn't
28:33
Speaker 2: try to manage at all. I don't even think he
28:34
Speaker 2: even tried to like sit them all down in a
28:37
Speaker 2: room and be like, look, I love you both equally. Like,
28:40
Speaker 2: I don't think he cared at all. I think he
28:42
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just gonna go work, y'all figure it out.
28:46
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come home, watch you guys fight. Can you
28:48
Speaker 2: make me some eggs with some white pepper? And then
28:50
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to bed, and Janelle, will you come
28:52
Speaker 2: in here and stuck my big Like that's what he did.
28:54
Speaker 2: I think probably probably, And I do think that, like
28:57
Speaker 2: when Mary was talking about how she couldn't have feel.
29:00
Speaker 2: I think she was meaning like she wasn't even allowed
29:03
Speaker 2: to express them. I think every time she tried to
29:06
Speaker 2: Cody was like, deal with it.
29:09
Speaker 1: Or maybe she came in too hot and true. I
29:12
Speaker 1: think she put the target on her own back. I
29:14
Speaker 1: think all of her emotions and perspectives are valid, and
29:18
Speaker 1: I would probably share them, but she probably communicated them
29:22
Speaker 1: in such a terrible way that people can't can't even
29:24
Speaker 1: hear you when you're speaking, Henney, because you're screaming good point,
29:27
Speaker 1: you're kicking dogs. Oh sorry that was Robin.
29:29
Speaker 2: Oh true dog kicker. Yikes. And then we go into
29:37
Speaker 2: like a whole conversation. It was basically the rest of
29:39
Speaker 2: the episode of Christina David talking about how polygamy is bad.
29:44
Speaker 1: I'm going astrol I'm flipping into another dimension where they
29:49
Speaker 1: got something going on that's more exciting than this shit conversation.
29:53
Speaker 1: I'm just like from the mouth of David.
29:55
Speaker 2: And also we know, like, we know polygamy is bad,
29:59
Speaker 2: we know Cody fucked up it polygamy, we know it's
30:03
Speaker 2: not good for women.
30:04
Speaker 1: We don't need David No to go on mouthpiece. I
30:08
Speaker 1: know our new principal voice, our new anti no. I
30:13
Speaker 1: don't want it at all. But then I was thinking
30:16
Speaker 1: to myself as I was watching it in a complete rage,
30:20
Speaker 1: that they keep talking about it season after season because
30:25
Speaker 1: it is their entire identity. It is the thing that
30:30
Speaker 1: their popularity, their fame, and therefore their money hinges on
30:34
Speaker 1: is the fact that they are now former polygamists. Without this,
30:38
Speaker 1: who are they true? Why would we care? So every
30:42
Speaker 1: season we have to dredge up from the fucking, stinking
30:46
Speaker 1: well the polygamy conversation. Don't they know that the only
30:51
Speaker 1: people watching in season twenty have been watching since season one,
30:54
Speaker 1: because there's nobody in the right mind who would pick
30:56
Speaker 1: up at season eighteen and stay with it. No, for
30:59
Speaker 1: it's us. It's the raccoon. We know about polygamy. Bitch.
31:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.
31:04
Speaker 1: Shut up, Sit down, shut up, David, like.
31:07
Speaker 2: We get it, And I will say again, I know
31:09
Speaker 2: we've said it a million times before. I'm like, but
31:11
Speaker 2: it would be so much more interesting to hear Christine
31:14
Speaker 2: talk about, like, oh, how did you come to the
31:16
Speaker 2: conclusion that polygamy was bad? How did you come to
31:19
Speaker 2: the conclusion that you wanted to deconstruct your religion?
31:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the crisis of faith? Exactly that pivoted
31:25
Speaker 1: you onto a new past, right and was there fear involved?
31:28
Speaker 1: Were you excited like all of those so much making
31:32
Speaker 1: a great conversation, But these people are but polygamy, it
31:36
Speaker 1: was very bad. It's exploitative. Everybody's sad. Every time we look,
31:40
Speaker 1: it's sad. Okay, thanks, we get it for this enlightened convo.
31:44
Speaker 2: I will say I thought it was kind of annoying
31:46
Speaker 2: that Janelle was seemingly offended that David was talking from
31:51
Speaker 2: his experience.
31:52
Speaker 1: Her stomach fell, I mean, chill.
31:55
Speaker 2: Out, and Christina and David seemed kind of surprised by
31:58
Speaker 2: that when Suki brought it up, saying that Janelle was
32:00
Speaker 2: offended by David talking about it, Like.
32:03
Speaker 1: Dude, last season or the season before, wasn't it Janelle
32:07
Speaker 1: who was saying polygamy is bad? Ye? Wives, Yeah, and
32:10
Speaker 1: she really believed it and she thought it would never
32:11
Speaker 1: happen to her, and now look at her situation. But
32:14
Speaker 1: because Christina and David are saying it, and now you're
32:17
Speaker 1: under the constraints of an NDA and that I might be sued,
32:20
Speaker 1: now you're all of a sudden like, who is he
32:22
Speaker 1: to comment on polygamy?
32:23
Speaker 2: It's so pretentious and self righteous. I'm like, shut up, Janelle,
32:26
Speaker 2: you don't even believe in it anymore, So why are
32:29
Speaker 2: you even offended?
32:30
Speaker 1: Maybe she wants to get back with Cody. Ew maybe
32:33
Speaker 1: she wants to get back with Cody.
32:36
Speaker 2: Dude. If Janelle was my mom and she wanted to
32:39
Speaker 2: get back with Cody, I would disown her. I would
32:42
Speaker 2: go no contact. I'd be like, fuck you mom, you ho.
32:46
Speaker 2: I'd be so mad.
32:48
Speaker 1: I just get further and further entrenched, embedded, like a
32:53
Speaker 1: tick in my position that Janelle's I hate to say
32:57
Speaker 1: this about another mom, but like, she's not a great mom.
33:00
Speaker 2: I don't think she's a great mom.
33:02
Speaker 1: She puts her own self interests before everything else. She
33:06
Speaker 1: gets off of work when she has five children that
33:09
Speaker 1: are young that Christina's taking care of in a basement. Yep,
33:12
Speaker 1: she gets off of work and she goes to the
33:13
Speaker 1: fucking movies. Yeah, Christina is the one cooking the meals.
33:17
Speaker 2: For the most, homeschooling all of them and being around
33:20
Speaker 2: them and being an actual mom.
33:21
Speaker 1: And then in the era of COVID the pan demic,
33:26
Speaker 1: Cody's out in a mountain having this incendiary conversation with
33:30
Speaker 1: Gaban Garrison and he's he's on television that season calling
33:35
Speaker 1: them assholes and narcissists. Yep, And you're gonna sit on
33:40
Speaker 1: the set in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five,
33:42
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and you're gonna be like, oh no,
33:44
Speaker 1: You're like, he's totally entitled to feel that way, and yeah,
33:46
Speaker 1: he's completely sincere after your son has gone. I feel
33:51
Speaker 1: like I'm being terrible, But like, the more we do this,
33:55
Speaker 1: the less I like Janelle. I already can't stand Cody
33:58
Speaker 1: and Robin obviously very dubious about Mary, and I'm side
34:02
Speaker 1: eyeing Christine for sure, But Janelle, you're falling from Grace.
34:05
Speaker 2: Definitely, so fast, so fast, And that's how I felt too.
34:09
Speaker 2: And I was on the Reddit, so I was doing
34:10
Speaker 2: my investigative journalism, and I guess people were saying episodes
34:15
Speaker 2: of Sister Wives that were released internationally had extra scenes,
34:20
Speaker 2: and I think we probably talked about this, like when
34:23
Speaker 2: like season seventeen eighteen nineteen was coming out, but apparently
34:27
Speaker 2: when Cody was going on as tirade about Janelle's older boys,
34:31
Speaker 2: Garrison and Gabe, like being at home and leaving the
34:35
Speaker 2: home periodically to work and like go kiss their girlfriends
34:37
Speaker 2: and stuff during COVID, like Cody was telling Janelle they
34:40
Speaker 2: need to leave or else I'm not going to come
34:43
Speaker 2: visit you. And apparently, according to people on Reddit, the
34:47
Speaker 2: international episodes had extra scenes where Janelle straight up told
34:52
Speaker 2: no the older boys Garrison and Gabe, Yeah, so your
34:55
Speaker 2: dad can't come over unless you guys move out. So
34:57
Speaker 2: y'all need to move out, and so she kicked him
34:59
Speaker 2: out because she wanted Cody to come over and eat
35:02
Speaker 2: her pussy. No, yes, the extra scenes. We didn't get
35:06
Speaker 2: those scenes in the US. I'm gonna start fakes.
35:09
Speaker 1: Shadow boxing over the fact that some international people high internationals.
35:15
Speaker 1: We have nothing but love for you, but like that,
35:16
Speaker 1: y'all get content that we don't get in America. Yeah,
35:22
Speaker 1: the original country of Oras it's supposed to be. We
35:27
Speaker 1: don't see that. We would have been going for days,
35:31
Speaker 1: I know, for weeks and months if we had seen
35:34
Speaker 1: Janelle say something like.
35:35
Speaker 2: That, and so I believe that. Yeah, it had a
35:38
Speaker 2: lot of up dudes and stuff on Reddit, and so
35:40
Speaker 2: people were like, yeah, that's what happened.
35:42
Speaker 1: I have a fury inside of me. I don't know
35:45
Speaker 1: that I can contain if that's true.
35:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I was reading that, I'm like, are
35:48
Speaker 2: you fucking kidding me? So?
35:50
Speaker 1: Yeah.
35:50
Speaker 2: So after seeing that and after seeing this one on
35:53
Speaker 2: one with Janelle, I'm just like, you know, I don't
35:56
Speaker 2: like you, Janelle. I'm sorry, but you simp for Cody
35:59
Speaker 2: too much. Yeah, And I just don't understand how you
36:03
Speaker 2: can still have any ounce of grace or love for
36:07
Speaker 2: a man who calls his own children his flesh and
36:10
Speaker 2: blood narcissistic assholes on National TV, goes on to be
36:15
Speaker 2: a total piece of shit to not only you, but
36:19
Speaker 2: to Christine and Mary, and you're still gonna like sen
36:23
Speaker 2: for him. You're still gonna give him the benefit of
36:25
Speaker 2: the dow. I just don't get it.
36:26
Speaker 1: This is the woman who went on a birthday date
36:29
Speaker 1: with Cody during the pandemic to that fancy restaurant or
36:33
Speaker 1: whatever in his convertible when Savannah, their daughter, hadn't heard
36:40
Speaker 1: from Cody in several months. Right, he has just left
36:44
Speaker 1: her on red He's ghosting your daughter, But you think
36:47
Speaker 1: it's okay to get in the convertible and go have
36:50
Speaker 1: a nacemeal in the Dona or whatever. Like that's who
36:54
Speaker 1: Janelle is, that's her loyalty. It's not to her kids,
36:57
Speaker 1: it's to Cody, And like, why I think that's where
37:00
Speaker 1: we're gonna land on him. Yeah, that's the conclusion I'm
37:03
Speaker 1: coming to. Yeah, are we crazy? What do you guys think?
37:06
Speaker 2: Let us know. Maybe we're being too harsh, but I'm
37:09
Speaker 2: just like, okay, suck huge, you know, bitch, and so
37:13
Speaker 2: Playamy's bad. Okay. And David wants everybody to know that
37:17
Speaker 2: he went to Mexico when he was two, and I
37:20
Speaker 2: snory and this is his experience. And he's not talking
37:24
Speaker 2: like he's an expert. He's just seen it time and
37:26
Speaker 2: time again. And Cody's got a.
37:28
Speaker 1: Big he can't talk at all.
37:31
Speaker 2: No, he can't.
37:32
Speaker 1: I can have a baby. But by my what did
37:34
Speaker 1: he say?
37:35
Speaker 2: He said?
37:36
Speaker 1: What did he say?
37:36
Speaker 2: He said? I don't have to have a baby to
37:39
Speaker 2: know that it's hard to have a baby.
37:41
Speaker 1: That's not what he said, though he sucked it up
37:43
Speaker 1: when he's.
37:43
Speaker 2: He did suck it up. But that's me.
37:45
Speaker 1: I'm just like he's These aren't the intelligentsia of America.
37:51
Speaker 2: Trying to sound like Cody Brown's people are not.
37:53
Speaker 1: I know I'm saying, sound like construction workers pigs. I
37:57
Speaker 1: couldn't believe he said that he brought it up again.
38:00
Speaker 1: Construction Workers of Utah Unite. Yeah, Arizona Unite, because this
38:05
Speaker 1: guy is putting on airs. You come from absolute poverty
38:09
Speaker 1: until this show. You were in your thirties, you were
38:12
Speaker 1: broke ass you were bankrupt, you were frauding the system
38:17
Speaker 1: with your welfare and everything. And now all of a sudden,
38:20
Speaker 1: you've got ten years of money and people are just
38:23
Speaker 1: construction workers out here.
38:26
Speaker 2: I think he's jealous because I think he's jealous because
38:32
Speaker 2: David has an actual successful business and like they make
38:35
Speaker 2: enough money to have a nice home in Utah, to
38:38
Speaker 2: have several Airbnbs, and to have nice cars and stuff
38:42
Speaker 2: and to travel. And Cody is living debt to debt financing.
38:47
Speaker 1: House of Cards, House of Cards. Wind is blowing.
38:50
Speaker 2: And he's broken. I think that's why he keeps making
38:54
Speaker 2: like the construction worker did, because he's not even a construction.
38:57
Speaker 1: That in front of America. And they're doing that at
39:00
Speaker 1: a time when our economy is so fucking bad. I mean,
39:03
Speaker 1: it's not the Great Depression, but it kind of feels
39:05
Speaker 1: like it is just getting there, and you're gonna sit
39:07
Speaker 1: up on national television and just kind of talk down
39:11
Speaker 1: in a pejorative way to blue collar people. Yeah, fuck you,
39:14
Speaker 1: dudeuck you forever. I can't wait you up and you
39:18
Speaker 1: down sideways on.
39:19
Speaker 2: The sideways, I can't wait, just waiting with my popcorn.
39:24
Speaker 1: It's bad for you. It's bad for you to have
39:26
Speaker 1: to hold that vibration. How is it bad when you're
39:29
Speaker 1: holding that vibration inside of you, you're also attracting it
39:32
Speaker 1: to you. Again, the Japanese call this botch.
39:34
Speaker 2: I rebuke that and the name of well, okay, but
39:36
Speaker 2: I rebuke.
39:37
Speaker 1: Like, you're don't be like wishing for bad. It'll wishing,
39:39
Speaker 1: don't you worry. Somebody's up there watching, and God has
39:43
Speaker 1: his eyes and.
39:44
Speaker 2: God is also there being like, yeah, Beatrice, I'm waiting
39:47
Speaker 2: with my popcorn. Two, I'm kidding, And okay, polygamy is bad.
39:55
Speaker 2: It's all about competing, countpeting, count peting. Mary says that
40:00
Speaker 2: there was a lot of cunt peting in their family,
40:03
Speaker 2: emphasis on content, and then Robin also has to bring
40:08
Speaker 2: up how everybody in the family had to go talk
40:11
Speaker 2: to Mary privately when they got pregnant to ease her feelings.
40:15
Speaker 1: Okay, so that just made me wonder who, Yeah, because
40:20
Speaker 1: how would you know that what babies came into being
40:23
Speaker 1: other than your other And so that means it was
40:26
Speaker 1: Robin who skipped her way over across the cul de
40:29
Speaker 1: sac or whatever every time to tell Mary obey the
40:32
Speaker 1: way in Pregos silbot. I'm sure that would be great,
40:40
Speaker 1: got a nice fertile womb, nobody else had babies. But
40:43
Speaker 1: you do you see what I'm saying.
40:46
Speaker 2: Yes, she's a dumb old bitch. And I also think
40:50
Speaker 2: I forgot to say this at the top of the episode.
40:51
Speaker 2: Is my takeaway. But I think Robin's like over all
40:54
Speaker 2: of this. I think she's been over it. I think
40:57
Speaker 2: she's been tired of doing these tell alls and everything,
40:59
Speaker 2: Like she's like, just leave you, old bets. Let me
41:02
Speaker 2: live in my fucking mansion with all of your money, Like,
41:06
Speaker 2: just shut the fuck up. I think she's tired of it.
41:09
Speaker 2: And you can kind of see like glimpses of like
41:11
Speaker 2: her real viper tongue coming out a little bit her
41:15
Speaker 2: whole face. And during Janelle's apology, did you notice her face?
41:19
Speaker 2: She looked constipated, She looked uncomfortable because Cody was saying,
41:23
Speaker 2: like I did love you and I still love you.
41:27
Speaker 2: Anything Robn was like, I didn't tell you to say that.
41:31
Speaker 1: That wasn't in our script. Yeah. No, she looked angry
41:36
Speaker 1: the entire time. She definitely did, and there were some
41:40
Speaker 1: questions she just refused to answer. She's like, I don't care,
41:44
Speaker 1: Like it's not my issue anymore.
41:46
Speaker 2: That's them.
41:46
Speaker 1: I don't care what they think. But you never cared
41:48
Speaker 1: what they think though, And.
41:50
Speaker 2: That's the real truth right there. And then we watch
41:53
Speaker 2: a flashback of Cody's apology to Mary, like that wasn't
41:57
Speaker 2: the last episode before these Tilna things, And Cody says
42:01
Speaker 2: something like Mary was just coming in hot and wanted
42:05
Speaker 2: to talk about why she was hurt. And I didn't
42:09
Speaker 2: get that at all, Like Mary was like, why am
42:10
Speaker 2: I even here on this park bench? But Cody's perception
42:14
Speaker 2: was that Mary wanted to fight and Mary wanted to
42:17
Speaker 2: talk about her past pain and I'm just like, you're
42:20
Speaker 2: so delusional man.
42:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but that just kind of underscores that he
42:26
Speaker 1: wasn't showing up to give her an actual apology. He
42:30
Speaker 1: wanted to have a monologue. He wanted to just fill
42:34
Speaker 1: a buster and say the things that he wanted to
42:37
Speaker 1: say for the camera. Yeah, And there was no space
42:40
Speaker 1: whatsoever for Mary to process any of it, and I
42:42
Speaker 1: would agree, like she wasn't there to talk about all
42:44
Speaker 1: the things that went wrong. In fact, she didn't bring
42:47
Speaker 1: anything up. I mean, she tried to bring up the kids,
42:49
Speaker 1: but you shut her down immediately. She was largely just
42:52
Speaker 1: reacting to the fuck shit you were saying exactly, and
42:56
Speaker 1: her reactions were completely normative and reasonable given the fact
43:00
Speaker 1: that you are diabolical, yeah, an evil person yeah, and
43:05
Speaker 1: you're taunting her across the picnic table.
43:07
Speaker 2: He was totally taunting her. It was interesting to have
43:10
Speaker 2: everybody else's reactions to the apology, so like Christine was like, yes, Queen,
43:15
Speaker 2: I love this, this is awesome. And then you have
43:17
Speaker 2: Robin saying something like this was just indicative of how
43:21
Speaker 2: Cody and Mary's relationship always was. There were firecrackers just
43:24
Speaker 2: always setting each other off, which I thought was interesting.
43:27
Speaker 1: And I think that's true totally.
43:28
Speaker 2: I think they definitely triggered each other constantly. But then
43:31
Speaker 2: we have Janelle's bitch ass who says Cody's apology to
43:36
Speaker 2: Mary was sincere. Then she says Mary was being too sharp,
43:41
Speaker 2: but that's just how they always were. And I'm just like,
43:44
Speaker 2: at what point, do you think Cody was sincere in
43:46
Speaker 2: his apology to Mary? And why are you even giving
43:50
Speaker 2: him that grace?
43:53
Speaker 1: Out of all of the apologies, and they were all dogshit. Yep,
43:57
Speaker 1: her apology was the most disingenuous and the most insincere.
44:01
Speaker 2: Exactly.
44:02
Speaker 1: It's so clear to see from like people just watching
44:06
Speaker 1: on the internet or on television, And I think Janelle
44:09
Speaker 1: knows full well that Cody wasn't sincere. And I think
44:13
Speaker 1: it's very telling that she couldn't just have Mary's back
44:16
Speaker 1: in that situation and say something like, well, you know, yeah,
44:19
Speaker 1: she's got some angry energy, but she has every right
44:23
Speaker 1: to feel that way, you know, and he should not.
44:25
Speaker 1: I mean, all of the things she could have said
44:27
Speaker 1: in defense of just another woman who has to deal
44:30
Speaker 1: with Cody Brown, like would have been great, but she's
44:34
Speaker 1: not doing it for whatever reason. I just don't get
44:37
Speaker 1: it what she's giving us.
44:39
Speaker 2: And then she also says Cody had a right to
44:42
Speaker 2: say his opinions about what Mary's friends say about him,
44:46
Speaker 2: because Mary's friends are talking about him or something. So
44:49
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, you're corroborating this whole thing. Like people
44:52
Speaker 2: are allowed to say whatever they want to say about
44:55
Speaker 2: Cody the Brown. But Janelle was like trying to justify
45:00
Speaker 2: Cody bringing up Mary's friends in his apology and trying
45:04
Speaker 2: to justify like, yeah, he's allowed to, he's allowed to
45:06
Speaker 2: bring that up. He's allowed to.
45:08
Speaker 1: What about you know, all of your weird friends and
45:10
Speaker 1: Nolin's and stuff, asking about whether he's wearing a visor
45:13
Speaker 1: and stuff and making fun of his hair and all
45:15
Speaker 1: right that, Like, I mean, I would imagine she would
45:18
Speaker 1: keep the same energy if he called out her friends,
45:21
Speaker 1: which he did not, I mean, on its face, she's correct,
45:25
Speaker 1: like they said it publicly so he can respond or whatever,
45:29
Speaker 1: Like you don't need to do that. You can kind
45:31
Speaker 1: of just be a girl's girl and be like, well,
45:33
Speaker 1: we have friends, and our friends are going to stick
45:35
Speaker 1: up for us. And like, I'm sorry, Cody, but this
45:37
Speaker 1: is based on your own behavior. Like just don't listen
45:41
Speaker 1: to it. You don't have to respond to it. That's
45:43
Speaker 1: what I would have said. I agree with that, But
45:46
Speaker 1: but not our girl Janelle, No.
45:48
Speaker 2: Because obviously she's not a girl's girl. She was Cody's girl,
45:51
Speaker 2: and that's how she's gonna Maybe.
45:53
Speaker 1: She's still Cody's girl. Maybe that's why Robin looks so
45:56
Speaker 1: angry because Robin knows that she's still Cody girl. Because
46:00
Speaker 1: remember first episode of The Tell Nothings, he said I
46:05
Speaker 1: loved her and maybe I still love her or I
46:07
Speaker 1: love her, and however he phrased it, it was in
46:10
Speaker 1: the present tense, first person.
46:13
Speaker 2: You're right, declaring his love for Joe. You're right. Maybe
46:17
Speaker 2: she's the new wife. Maybe they bring her back. That'd
46:20
Speaker 2: be crazy.
46:21
Speaker 1: I would love that too, though.
46:22
Speaker 2: That would be wild.
46:24
Speaker 1: That would be like a left field X factor that
46:27
Speaker 1: I could get behind.
46:28
Speaker 2: Maybe Tieta Arms fails and Janelle goes back to Flagstaff
46:32
Speaker 2: and it's like.
46:32
Speaker 1: Daddy, do you remember our renaissance in Las Vegas in
46:38
Speaker 1: the cul de Sac?
46:40
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would pass away. And then at
46:44
Speaker 2: the end of this whole flashback to Mary's apology, Cody
46:48
Speaker 2: says he doesn't want Mary's friends going on the internets
46:53
Speaker 2: and going on TV saying that he was an asshole
46:55
Speaker 2: and that he was insincere because he was sincere in
46:58
Speaker 2: his apology to Mary. But that's the root of it.
47:01
Speaker 2: He just doesn't want people talking shit about him, which
47:04
Speaker 2: I just think is funny. And then he I think
47:06
Speaker 2: Suki asks him, like, well, what went wrong between you
47:09
Speaker 2: and Mary? Between you know you moving her out and
47:12
Speaker 2: then this park apology and Cody says that after he
47:18
Speaker 2: moved her out, they started talking through lawyers and one
47:23
Speaker 2: of them thought the other drew first blood, and so
47:26
Speaker 2: then they just went for the jugular. And then that's
47:28
Speaker 2: how we end the episode.
47:30
Speaker 1: Right with Suki asking him basically, what did Mary do
47:34
Speaker 1: to offend you?
47:35
Speaker 2: Yeah?
47:35
Speaker 1: Right, and that's it. He's not going to answer that. No,
47:38
Speaker 1: he's going to dance around that, and so is Mary.
47:40
Speaker 2: So definitely. So let me get to the preview, and
47:43
Speaker 2: we have Jen coming back and she says that there's
47:45
Speaker 2: times when something will happen and Cody will call her
47:49
Speaker 2: text Mary, and this is where his true colors come out,
47:52
Speaker 2: and so it comes out off camera, behind the scenes,
47:55
Speaker 2: so nobody gets to see the real Cody.
47:57
Speaker 1: Brown and it's just not okay mm hmm.
48:00
Speaker 2: And then Cody says Jen had some influence over Mary
48:04
Speaker 2: leaving the family, so he thinks that that was the
48:06
Speaker 2: recent why Mary wanted to come okay delusional. Then we
48:10
Speaker 2: have Janelle also kind of corroborating this, saying that Jen
48:14
Speaker 2: at one point came up to her and told her
48:17
Speaker 2: that she told Mary to take all the money and
48:21
Speaker 2: run away. And at this point in time, Jen and
48:25
Speaker 2: Mary or Jenina Janelle had some kind of professional relationship,
48:28
Speaker 2: so after she made that comment to her, which she
48:30
Speaker 2: found very inappropriate and uncomfortable, she ended the professional relationship.
48:34
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, fuck you.
48:36
Speaker 1: Shady boots the house down, Janelle.
48:39
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what is this? And then Christine says
48:42
Speaker 2: that this story about jen saying this to Mary is
48:47
Speaker 2: probably sarcastic. It probably wasn't even anything serious. And then
48:51
Speaker 2: Mary says that this story to her seems recently fabricated,
48:56
Speaker 2: so she thinks it's all complete bullshit. And we have
49:00
Speaker 2: Suki asking Robin if Mary could ever have a reason
49:03
Speaker 2: to distrust her, and Robin's like, no, absolutely not, I'm
49:06
Speaker 2: so trustworthy, and then we have Cody crashing out about
49:10
Speaker 2: the affair and a catfish.
49:11
Speaker 1: And that's really all I want to talk about, is
49:13
Speaker 1: the catfish same because based on previous previews, it seemed
49:19
Speaker 1: to be that somebody was implying that Robin had a
49:23
Speaker 1: hand in it.
49:23
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
49:24
Speaker 1: Which is the scene where Cody starts crashing out because
49:27
Speaker 1: he's entitled to know whether he's got a wife cheating
49:29
Speaker 1: on him or whatever.
49:30
Speaker 2: Yep.
49:31
Speaker 1: So I just I'm I'm very interested to see whether
49:34
Speaker 1: we're going to get some additional details. Of course, we
49:36
Speaker 1: already know what happened and the role that Robin played
49:39
Speaker 1: in it, and Kendra and all of that stuff, but
49:43
Speaker 1: nobody's ever talked about it on the show proper. So
49:45
Speaker 1: I am excited to see them absolutely deliver nothing next time.
49:50
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great.
49:52
Speaker 2: I feel like they're just dangling the carrot like they
49:54
Speaker 2: always do. But I just really want to see him
49:56
Speaker 2: crash out. Is that terrible? No, I'm a terrible person,
49:58
Speaker 2: but not a terrible person. Lose your cool, Cody. I
50:02
Speaker 2: want to see it. Yeah, that's it.
50:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that installment was kind of super repetitives mid
50:13
Speaker 1: very much a nothing burger. Didn't get much out of it. Yeah,
50:17
Speaker 1: you know. My takeaway is I'm done with Christine. My
50:21
Speaker 1: ending of the episode takeaways, I'm done with Christine and
50:24
Speaker 1: David Chanel. You're awful Countyhood. Did Mary? I mean, keep
50:28
Speaker 1: it up, honey, Because there was rumors or something like
50:31
Speaker 1: somebody mentioned that Mary made a comment that she's writing
50:35
Speaker 1: a book. Did you see that somewhere?
50:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? I saw it. I thought she said she wasn't.
50:40
Speaker 1: She's well, I didn't say it was going to be
50:44
Speaker 1: a petty book, or she didn't say it was going
50:45
Speaker 1: to be a petty book. She said, this is what
50:48
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She said she's writing a book, and she
50:52
Speaker 1: kind of said it as a throwaway comment. Somebody heard
50:55
Speaker 1: it and then we talked about it on Reddit or whatever.
50:58
Speaker 1: But the question is, what kind of book are we
51:00
Speaker 1: going to get this milk toast, watered down worthy up
51:05
Speaker 1: version like we got with Christine with like a little
51:08
Speaker 1: bit of breadcrumbs but hardly anything at all, Or are
51:12
Speaker 1: you going to tell the truth? Is the truth in you?
51:15
Speaker 1: Does it live in you anywhere?
51:17
Speaker 2: Mary?
51:18
Speaker 1: Because it's not in the hair.
51:19
Speaker 2: No, it's not on the hair.
51:21
Speaker 1: And another thing I saw regarding Mary and the hair,
51:24
Speaker 1: somebody posted a picture of an AI generated Mary with
51:28
Speaker 1: like bangs that kind of swooped and then like a
51:31
Speaker 1: long oh like abe kind of like a longer hair
51:36
Speaker 1: with some highlights. Definitely not you know, yeah, straight iron crispy,
51:42
Speaker 1: or a little bit of some facelift action, not that
51:46
Speaker 1: I would recommend. She doesn't necessarily, she doesn't need that
51:49
Speaker 1: or anything, Like I'm not saying that at all, but
51:50
Speaker 1: they looked like they smoothed the things and every She
51:53
Speaker 1: looked good though. Yea, even with everything as it is,
51:56
Speaker 1: with just longer hair, a little bit more natural, we've.
52:00
Speaker 2: Got some movement.
52:01
Speaker 1: The love that we're going out with Ron where I
52:05
Speaker 1: getting Zion with some hair. It would be so great.
52:09
Speaker 2: I would love that for her. Yeah, she would have
52:11
Speaker 2: to like not straight iron her hair and let it
52:14
Speaker 2: grow and be healthy. Some women just get really stuck
52:18
Speaker 2: in the loop of how they looked years ago.
52:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they stick with memute. Am I doing that
52:24
Speaker 1: right now? In my life?
52:26
Speaker 2: No?
52:26
Speaker 1: No, my hair has never been this long in my home. No,
52:28
Speaker 1: it has life. But I mean, she might be stuck
52:31
Speaker 1: in a tw tens version of Mary Kan that she
52:35
Speaker 1: idealized for herself.
52:36
Speaker 2: It's so bad. It's giving Alice from Twilight.
52:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I mean, but Mary, if you're gonna
52:42
Speaker 1: write a book, tell the truth, come on, give us
52:46
Speaker 1: something like I swear to.
52:48
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be tost bullshit.
52:50
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a money grab. Yeah, she's gonna have
52:52
Speaker 1: a traditional publisher, which I hate.
52:55
Speaker 2: Well, she's gonna have somebody ghost write it for her.
52:57
Speaker 1: Probably, of course, otherwise it's just gonna be alliterate. I
53:02
Speaker 1: felt sad and I didn't like it, and I can't
53:05
Speaker 1: be me.
53:07
Speaker 2: We need more and this is how I learned to
53:09
Speaker 2: worthy up.
53:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to turn a phrase. We need somebody
53:12
Speaker 1: to help you, HEDI, Yeah, for sure. Well, Beatrice riveting
53:16
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53:19
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53:21
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53:34
Speaker 1: Now, because we are a little late with this recap
53:37
Speaker 1: because of the ice storm, sorry about all that. We
53:41
Speaker 1: are going to immediately start recording for Suddenly Amish and
53:44
Speaker 1: we're going to release that probably the same day as this.
53:48
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53:50
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