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Jaguars Reporters: Monday, June 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: I can't really play free and play really well if
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Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing. So that's the that's
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Speaker 1: the goal, is just to master with the offense by
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Speaker 1: time training camp comes around. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters, presented
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Speaker 1: by t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Osher,
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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, and J. P. Shadman. Presended by t I
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Speaker 1: A A Bank starts right now. Welcome in to Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Reporters today as Monday, June fourteenth, JP Shadrick, Ashland Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: John Osier and Bucky Brooks in the flesh right. Hello,
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Speaker 1: Bucky loved him right in the building. I get a
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Speaker 1: chance if you wanted to reporters, I'm off the shirt.
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Speaker 1: I see the Jaguar logo. I'm making logo matters to me.
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Speaker 1: Yes it does. We've talked to Bucky for like a
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Speaker 1: year and a half. We've never been a person. He
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Speaker 1: walked in. I was like, wait a minute, Buck, he's
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Speaker 1: here today. I know it was coming, but pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: John happy here? Yeah, I guess it's it's uh. I
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Speaker 1: would probably air on the side of hey, Buck, how
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Speaker 1: you doing right and having a party, But I'm good
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Speaker 1: with it. You can roll that red carpet right back up, Bucky.
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Speaker 1: I don't need that anymore. I never get this kind
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Speaker 1: of reception on there every day. So yeah, that's fine.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason for that, John, there's a reason you
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Speaker 1: don't get that every day. Yeah, here's what's going on
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Speaker 1: this week, Manda Joy mini camp underway and it started
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Speaker 1: today and it ends tomorrow. They've taken a day off
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Speaker 1: the schedule, trimmed it up a little bit, and you know,
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Speaker 1: they've been they've really been doing a lot of work
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Speaker 1: in the o t a period, so you know, trim
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Speaker 1: off a day at the end, they got a lot
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Speaker 1: of work in today, Ashland and you know, throw a
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Speaker 1: bone and get him out of here to day early. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We've seen in the past couple of years where it's
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Speaker 1: either the training camp or the the vote for they'll
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Speaker 1: have bowling day or team bonding day. I think coach
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Speaker 1: Meyer and the coaching staff understands, let's just get these
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Speaker 1: guys out of here to their families. That's what they
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Speaker 1: want to do. It's been a it's been a long
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks and I think they are in it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think they have really been going at it.
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Speaker 1: And I think right now, when we've seen the things
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Speaker 1: around the league where we've seen some of the injuries
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Speaker 1: and things pop up, I think the number one goal
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Speaker 1: is to get everyone to training camp. You want to
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Speaker 1: get everyone to training camp, everyone healthy, ready to go,
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Speaker 1: so you can tack that part of the preseason, and
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Speaker 1: then the goal after that is to see if we
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Speaker 1: can get everybody to the regular season ready. Rock Well,
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Speaker 1: you sent a good message too. They had almost participation
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Speaker 1: in O t A s. If you hadn't had that
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Speaker 1: level of participation, then you make sure that they work
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Speaker 1: all three days of many camp. You had huge participation,
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Speaker 1: so you should have gotten what you needed to do done.
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Speaker 1: And I would think it's a message of the players
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Speaker 1: that hey, show up for everything and I'll throw you
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Speaker 1: a bone back And Houston canceled a whole mini camp
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Speaker 1: all together. Go to the participation buck. What in the world.
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Speaker 1: I mean we're saying there like it's funny, because the
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Speaker 1: conversation at the beginning of the off season was all
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Speaker 1: we can get these guys to show up and participating.
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Speaker 1: Then we get them there and everyone's like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: everyone go home. And so I think it's just part
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Speaker 1: of the off season headlines, where as much ado about nothing.
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Speaker 1: I have a questioned though the scout are we staying
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Speaker 1: are we staying all? Are the players sort of winning
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Speaker 1: this a little bit overall? Meaning you cancel the mini
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Speaker 1: camps because you showed up pro t A. Other teams
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Speaker 1: are sort of some teams are not having anything. Are
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Speaker 1: we going to go back to where every team considers
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Speaker 1: it absolutely vital that you have all thirteen and any
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Speaker 1: point or are we going to see a gradual ebbing
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Speaker 1: of maybe this isn't as important as we once thought.
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Speaker 1: I think we'll see probably modifications continue. I think we'll
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Speaker 1: see some of the stuff that you guys have talked about,
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Speaker 1: seeing the individual work, the skill development work, maybe not
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Speaker 1: the competitive periods. So you see the guy's work on
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Speaker 1: their individual drills that work on things to become better players.
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Speaker 1: They'll do small group work, they'll do more walk through
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Speaker 1: run through stuff as opposed to the seven H seven
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Speaker 1: nine O seven eleven on eleven competitive things that we're
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Speaker 1: used to seeing in some of these off seasons. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's been hard to kind of take headlines from
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Speaker 1: these practices. And we talked about there's no winner or
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Speaker 1: a loser I'm not gonna lie today. I was like, man,
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Speaker 1: I don't even know. It's right down. Okay, they can
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Speaker 1: They worked out today is what they did. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean it's fine. But I think Urgan feels that way too.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's he's new to that. He's just fresh
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Speaker 1: in this. He's always dealt with Tom and he's made
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Speaker 1: several illusions dude, no winner or loser. I you know,
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Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see what he tries to
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Speaker 1: get out of next year's considering what he learned about this,
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Speaker 1: because he kept going back to that no winner or
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Speaker 1: losing thing. Yeah, I'm not sure that he loves being
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Speaker 1: on the field if there's no winner or loser. So
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Speaker 1: you wonder how he'll adjust next year to try and
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Speaker 1: get the most out of it. As we said on
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Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Pod last week, he'll make up for
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Speaker 1: it come training camp. Will be plenty of plenty of
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Speaker 1: points to have winners and losers. Yeah, no, it is.
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Speaker 1: It is funny because for him, I guess the offseason
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Speaker 1: O T A program would be like spring ball. But
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Speaker 1: the problem is in college two spring balls with pats,
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Speaker 1: you're going, you're building up to a spring game, and
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Speaker 1: now you don't have that. And in the prose, you're
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Speaker 1: trying to preserve your players, you're trying to develop them.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to have injuries. Particularly the coaches won't
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Speaker 1: admit this, but they hear what's going on around the league.
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Speaker 1: No one wants any of that to happen to one
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Speaker 1: of the players that you're counting on. Definitely not one
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Speaker 1: of our other big points this week. Trevor Lawrence well
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Speaker 1: last week and organized team activities, came up with a
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Speaker 1: hamstring issue. Didn't do a lot today Ashland. We did
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Speaker 1: hear from him after practice though, he says and urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer said that if it was a game week, he
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Speaker 1: would play all that. Well, it's not a game week.
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Speaker 1: It's June fourteenth, So Trevor just kind of stand back
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Speaker 1: there out of the way and uh, enjoy the ice pack, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a It seems like he's got his
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Speaker 1: head on straight. Everything is still going well above the
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Speaker 1: shoulders for Trevor, and the offense is coming along. It's
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Speaker 1: kind of what you expect to hear this time of year, though.
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Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, and I liked how you was
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Speaker 1: honest that it's frustrating. He'd like to be out there
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Speaker 1: doing his thing. But he doesn't need to be. We
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Speaker 1: know what he is. We've seen when he can do hamerstring.
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Speaker 1: We've seen it around here with Leonard for Nett. That
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Speaker 1: can be such a nagging injury, and that's the last
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Speaker 1: thing you want right now. We won't seem on the
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Speaker 1: field tomorrow. I think he'll be great for training camp,
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Speaker 1: but I totally see why there's no reason to risk it,
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Speaker 1: even if it's a risk. No. I think, Look, he's
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Speaker 1: really ahead of schedule based on what we thought was
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Speaker 1: going to happen prior to the draft with the arm
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Speaker 1: and the shoulder and going through that surgery and those things.
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Speaker 1: Were actually able to see him throw the ball around
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Speaker 1: and do some of that stuff. So No. One goal
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Speaker 1: is to get Trevor ready to go to kind of
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Speaker 1: see where he is and how far they can go
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Speaker 1: in terms of the depth of the playbook before he's
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Speaker 1: ready to play in Week one. That that's ultimately what
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Speaker 1: training camp is about. Training camp is about getting Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence ready to play and ready to have a successful
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Speaker 1: and your comments. We've moved out to big things for
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Speaker 1: this Monday, June fourteen, Ashland Sullivan get a store. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I have had the privilege of helping out the
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Speaker 1: social media department and during O t a sum out
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Speaker 1: there every morning. Thank you very much. I'm out there
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Speaker 1: stalking these guys with my cell phone as they walk around.
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Speaker 1: But it's truss. I feel a little creepy at times.
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Speaker 1: Please talk to me, please say something. But I've noticed
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Speaker 1: that Jordan's Smith, who was drafted, he was at Florida.
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Speaker 1: I had some bumps along the road, and there were
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Speaker 1: a lot of questions around this guy. And I've noticed
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Speaker 1: that every single day it has almost every day been
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Speaker 1: urban Meyer and Jordan Smith walking out to practice together.
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Speaker 1: And I've noticed that he's really heavily tended to during
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Speaker 1: practice any member of the coaching staff. So I think
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Speaker 1: this is the guy that that we need to keep
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Speaker 1: our eyes on. And I knew that there was a
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Speaker 1: lot of publicity around him at the draft, and now
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking more so he's going to have an even
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Speaker 1: bigger role if this coaching staff is paying this much
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Speaker 1: attention to him. Bucky six seven to fifty. So he
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Speaker 1: walks on the field, It's like, who is that guy?
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Speaker 1: Long and tall and look, it looks to port And
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Speaker 1: I think if you think about him and you hear
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Speaker 1: Urban's words over and over again, he talks about being bigger, faster, stronger, bigger,
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Speaker 1: faster strong and bigger, faster, stronger version of themselves as team,
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Speaker 1: as athletes, as players, And what we're wanting to see
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Speaker 1: is ideally a team that is full of heavyweights, big
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Speaker 1: guys that can kind of knock you around at the
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, that can move by ease and and
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Speaker 1: do those things. And I think he's one of the
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Speaker 1: guys that will be a major contributor at some point.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that all of these
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Speaker 1: guys that came in were really heavily decorated recruits in
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Speaker 1: high school big programs, power five programs, played big time football. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the sweet spot. And I think it's
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Speaker 1: just playing out because the team that I saw walking
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Speaker 1: on the field was a bigger, stronger team than we've seen.
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Speaker 1: John Osher's dog is darking in the background. I love it, though,
9:36
Speaker 1: you know we've had dogs this part of podcast, do
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Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday Sun Sunday makes an appearance. You know, she
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Speaker 1: looks up, Oh, you get the jaguar stuff. All they
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Speaker 1: make sure that I get recognized and I'm in the credits,
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Speaker 1: so I love it. I'll move on my big thing next.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we kind of talked on this. They've
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Speaker 1: dialed back this week's work a little bit, cut off
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Speaker 1: some time on Monday and Tuesday, and canceled Wednesday. But
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Speaker 1: some teams are canceling the week altogether, you know, and
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Speaker 1: that's as we talked about earlier. It seems like that
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Speaker 1: might be the trend moving ahead here for a lot
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Speaker 1: of these teams. Yet and different. Yeah, I think it's
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Speaker 1: a different way of going about it. Like players spoke
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Speaker 1: up prior to the offseason, coaches had to negotiate terms
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Speaker 1: with some of the veteran players to get guys to
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Speaker 1: come in for tas and workouts, and so we've seen
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Speaker 1: a very different offseason. We've talked about the one on
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Speaker 1: one in the individual um practices. In terms of teams,
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Speaker 1: folks in on developing the fundamentals within those small position
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Speaker 1: groups rather than really have these competitive team periods that
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Speaker 1: were accustomed to seeing seeing, So I asked him, when
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Speaker 1: you talk about not having any notes, it's really hard
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Speaker 1: to write noticing anybody when everyone is just going through
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Speaker 1: footwork and uh, hand placement drills in those things. And
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Speaker 1: so hopefully the cop the competition will ramp up when
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Speaker 1: we get the training camp. But this has been very
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Speaker 1: much a developmental type atmosphere around the league that we're seeing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think we saw a glimpse of the biggest competition
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Speaker 1: we've seen so far. And that was a kicker today.
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Speaker 1: It was something we honestly didn't really expect. It was
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Speaker 1: Josh Lambo and Rosa's going at it, and and erben
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Speaker 1: Meyer said, yeah, this is a competition and we're going
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Speaker 1: to get an answer here that that was it. That
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Speaker 1: was thee of the day. Yeah, right, and Rosa has
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Speaker 1: had a couple of bombs from fifty seven to day too.
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Speaker 1: We didn't had a good day. That's good for him, Bucky.
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Speaker 1: You know your big thing here, it's you mentioned all
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Speaker 1: this and developmental things. Well, for a young team, that's
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Speaker 1: a good thing. It is a good thing. So my
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Speaker 1: big thing was young guys getting up to speed. We
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Speaker 1: saw it last year, so many young guys on the field,
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Speaker 1: so many guys playing around trying to learn how to play.
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Speaker 1: Um I mean, I look at the number of coaches
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Speaker 1: that are on the staff and the number of bodies
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Speaker 1: and people with hats and polos and stuff on the field.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like skill development is a big thing. And
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Speaker 1: normally we think about skill development in the in the NBA,
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Speaker 1: where you have these skill development coaches working on teaching
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Speaker 1: guys how to play well. Now we're seeing that play
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Speaker 1: out with the nature of the off season. The amount
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Speaker 1: of individual attention that these guys are getting. The coach,
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Speaker 1: the player ratio is very favorable, is shrunk dramatically, and
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Speaker 1: so guys are having a lot of attention paid to
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Speaker 1: them in terms of developing their games. And so we'll
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Speaker 1: see if you can develop the players individually and get
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Speaker 1: them to play together collectively, maybe we'll see better results
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Speaker 1: on the field. But this is a very very unique
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Speaker 1: situation with such a young team. But um all kind
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Speaker 1: of equated to when Trimbaky was in San Francisco and
12:44
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh came in and they didn't have an offseason.
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Speaker 1: Harbor was coming straight from the college game in the
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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine has hit the ground running because
12:52
Speaker 1: it was a very similar approach. Maybe just maybe the
12:55
Speaker 1: Jaguars sitting ground running because they are taking more of
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Speaker 1: a collegiate approach to the way that their prayer send
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Speaker 1: develop into players. A lot of those young guys are
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Speaker 1: gonna have to contribute pretty quickly here. And it's guys
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Speaker 1: you had your eyes on last year that you said
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Speaker 1: they really need an off season this year, the Calebon
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Speaker 1: Chassons and the Lavisco Chanults, and those are guys where
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Speaker 1: we're seeing shine right now. It's really vital that those
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Speaker 1: guys have a great off season. That's it for big
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Speaker 1: bank in time for Did you hear this? Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback, speaking after practice Monday, adjusting to the speed
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Speaker 1: of the NFL game. Obviously, I still have a lot
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Speaker 1: to learn, and just the more you practice something, the
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Speaker 1: better you get at it. So I still gotta get
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Speaker 1: a lot of reps me the receivers, O lines, all
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Speaker 1: the timing and meshing with all that, we still got
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Speaker 1: some work to do, but from a knowledge and just
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Speaker 1: memorize a in a mental standpoint, I feel really good
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Speaker 1: with the system. Um, I think it's great. We've got
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Speaker 1: a lot of answers and now it's just working out
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Speaker 1: all the little details to be a really good offense,
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Speaker 1: and we're working towards that. I want to have you
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Speaker 1: know complete control and and know everything and be comfortable.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really play play free and play
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Speaker 1: really well if you don't know what you're doing. So
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Speaker 1: that's the that's the goal, is just to master the
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Speaker 1: offense by the time training camp comes around. So in
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Speaker 1: training camp we really can focus everything forward on being
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Speaker 1: the best team we can come August fourteenth, and then
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Speaker 1: going on into the regular season as well. So that's
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Speaker 1: the plan, and it starts the quarterback. Obviously, I have
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Speaker 1: to be ready and I'm gonna do everything I can
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Speaker 1: to ensure that that that is the case. So I'm
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Speaker 1: excited to get started and we've I think we've had
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Speaker 1: a great past three weeks and it's been it's been
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Speaker 1: really good work all right. Obviously it's a different speed game.
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Speaker 1: It's June it's not full speed right now. But even
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Speaker 1: at this moment, Bucky, the windows are a little tighter
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Speaker 1: for Trevor and the quarterbacks. Yeah, the wind is a
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Speaker 1: tighter and the speed will continue to adjust. And what
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Speaker 1: Trevor and all the young guys will find out the
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Speaker 1: speed goes because you have what he's figuring out now
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Speaker 1: is offseason speed, and then when you get into the
15:10
Speaker 1: preseason games. Preseasons played at a certain speed, the regular
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Speaker 1: season is much faster than that, and then when you
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Speaker 1: get into the postseason tournament, it gets faster each and
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Speaker 1: every round. And so he's gonna have to adjust to
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Speaker 1: the windows being tighter and what is open and the
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Speaker 1: pros is vastly different than what's open in college. The
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Speaker 1: windows and the confidence in which you have to have
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball into these tight windows, a premium
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Speaker 1: will be placed on his actually and he has to
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Speaker 1: be very accomfortable letting it go when it doesn't look
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Speaker 1: like a guy is necessarily open. We're already seeing that
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Speaker 1: pressure in the few red zone periods that we've got
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Speaker 1: to witness. The offense struggled a couple of days, and
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Speaker 1: it looks like the defense won the date, and every
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Speaker 1: single quarterback struggle at times, and that's what you expect.
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Speaker 1: Right now, they're still trying to get that timing down.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear this from quarterback Trevor Lawrence? Now time
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Speaker 1: for everyone asks and Bucky. This is a segment of
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Speaker 1: the program where yes, everyone asks a question and yes
16:09
Speaker 1: we all answer said question. Ashley, why don't you kick
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Speaker 1: us off? I would like to throw a little spin
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Speaker 1: on the So summer break is approaching, summer vacation. Let's
16:19
Speaker 1: just all stay. We're going to the Bahamas. You can
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Speaker 1: pick any coach, any teammate, any staff member. Only two
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Speaker 1: of you you can you and your guests can go.
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Speaker 1: Who are you picking to go to the Bahamas with you?
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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna pick Brandon Linder because the
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Speaker 1: fishing boats and you'll have some fun on the water
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Speaker 1: he would provide them. I'm sure it would be. It
16:43
Speaker 1: would be an epic trip because the boats would be
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Speaker 1: filled with fresh fish on the daily and you probably
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Speaker 1: just right over there on the boat too. You would
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Speaker 1: have to fly or anything. So that's probably my pick
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Speaker 1: right off the top of my head. I mean, I
16:57
Speaker 1: like that. Well, I'm gonna go, and this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be like the corny stock answer. But I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: with urban Meyer. And the reason why I'm gonning Urbaner
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Speaker 1: because normally when you go on vacation, you read a book.
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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, now I can just get a book
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Speaker 1: on tape. By talking to urban Meyer the entire time,
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Speaker 1: I can get above the line. He can just every day.
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Speaker 1: He can just kind of recite a couple of chapters
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Speaker 1: to me out of the book, and I look, I'm there,
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Speaker 1: I'm being knowledgeable, and I'm understand exactly how to change
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Speaker 1: the culture of whatever it is I'm trying to change.
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Speaker 1: Is that a vacation move to your advantage? And he
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Speaker 1: might be just sit over there. It's been like, I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna be running around four to six, eight to
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Speaker 1: b like he wants for too, trying to go and
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Speaker 1: get fruity drinks. But he can he can educate me
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Speaker 1: on some of the other stuff, the other process. I
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Speaker 1: saw that Shelley Meyer, his wife, on Twitter, posted a
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Speaker 1: picture of him in a flamingo button down shirts on vacations,
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Speaker 1: so he might be way more fun than we think.
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Speaker 1: I bet he is. I'm just saying that we heard
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Speaker 1: your dog make an appearance a moment ago. What um
17:56
Speaker 1: What was your answer to Ashland's about what was it
18:02
Speaker 1: going to? John? Who are you bringing? Oh? If I'm
18:06
Speaker 1: going to the Bahamas, yep, yeah, a player or a coach? Oh?
18:14
Speaker 1: My wife first of all? Then she doesn't taking a
18:16
Speaker 1: coach problem. I mean they're taking a player or coach. Uh,
18:21
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with un't take Trevor. Yeah you can
18:26
Speaker 1: take Trevor, sure, I want to take the Newly way that.
18:30
Speaker 1: I want to see if those two are as happy
18:34
Speaker 1: and as perfect as they think. I just want to
18:38
Speaker 1: see if if there really is on top of the
18:40
Speaker 1: world I think they are. Podcast took a turn, everything beautiful,
18:54
Speaker 1: everything perfect in their lives. I just kind of want
18:56
Speaker 1: to see if that's for real. Okay, well bad the
19:00
Speaker 1: best rid over there. There's just this answer a question
19:07
Speaker 1: we gotta follow that. I mean, yeah, Aston brings a vacation,
19:10
Speaker 1: of course, and I got this football course and that
19:12
Speaker 1: I just want to know what what do what do
19:15
Speaker 1: you think Joe Collins Deepens is going to look like?
19:17
Speaker 1: That was my question. I'm on vacation and trees, and
19:21
Speaker 1: I got John talking about couples and stuff like that.
19:26
Speaker 1: It's something else. So what is Joe Collins defense. I
19:30
Speaker 1: think it looks like whatever it needs to look like
19:34
Speaker 1: that week. I think it will be adjustable to the
19:37
Speaker 1: opponent and they'll be able to you know, scheme it
19:42
Speaker 1: up each week that whatever the matchup works well. Right.
19:45
Speaker 1: If you have a running team, run more four man
19:49
Speaker 1: front right and stop the run. If you need to
19:52
Speaker 1: pass rush and do some other things, you can adjust
19:54
Speaker 1: that way. You'll see blitzing from all over the place.
19:57
Speaker 1: I think now the balance is how do you do
20:00
Speaker 1: all that without overloading these guys, especially the younger guys.
20:05
Speaker 1: So that's what it's gonna look like, and it's gonna
20:08
Speaker 1: all gonna look new. I mean they're staying new guys.
20:10
Speaker 1: It's like there's you know, fourth fists of the secondary's
20:13
Speaker 1: brand new. It's funny, um, I would say quickly and
20:17
Speaker 1: looking at it, uh, I saw Rex Ryan's defense all
20:21
Speaker 1: over in my mind, Like I know he has Bob
20:24
Speaker 1: Sutton kind of walking around hanging out helping him or whatever.
20:27
Speaker 1: I know he comes from Baltimore. The base of that
20:30
Speaker 1: defense has always had Rex Ryan elements and those things.
20:34
Speaker 1: And you can see the creativity with all the guys
20:36
Speaker 1: standing up and moving around the overload it appeared pressures,
20:40
Speaker 1: but a lot of simulated pressures. Where's the four man
20:42
Speaker 1: rush and seven guys with all those young guys and
20:45
Speaker 1: all those I would call it the bigger, faster, stronger
20:48
Speaker 1: bodies out there. It's very intriguing. Now, if they can
20:52
Speaker 1: execute it, that's one thing, But right now it's very
20:54
Speaker 1: intriguing to kind of watch from as far as they're
20:56
Speaker 1: kind of going through it. Think, yeah, I think it
20:59
Speaker 1: was notable when he mentioned Caleb and Chason, Laurent Tamma
21:02
Speaker 1: Crawley on Jacobs at that Sam position, he just flat
21:05
Speaker 1: outside it. We've always appreciated Urban's honesty so far, and
21:08
Speaker 1: he just kind of just tells us exactly what it's
21:10
Speaker 1: gonna look like. So you're right, you see that creativity.
21:13
Speaker 1: And then for him to explain and say, yes, Caleb
21:16
Speaker 1: and Chason is going to be here, it makes a
21:18
Speaker 1: lot of sense. John, Yeah, I think it's gonna look
21:21
Speaker 1: a lot like the Ravens defense. I think what will
21:23
Speaker 1: be intriguing is to see how Joe Colin take his personnel,
21:28
Speaker 1: which is not the same as the Ravens, because the
21:31
Speaker 1: hallmark of the Ravens defense to me, has always been
21:35
Speaker 1: using all these guys strength in a different ways and
21:39
Speaker 1: not catering to what the players do. Well. I it's
21:42
Speaker 1: different personnel. So what is Josh Allen do? I think
21:47
Speaker 1: the most intriguing thing about this defense to me is
21:50
Speaker 1: how Miles Jack is going to be used. My understanding
21:53
Speaker 1: is this staff thinks he's going to be an absolute
21:56
Speaker 1: star in this defense, and it's going to be to
21:59
Speaker 1: be used a lot of different ways. How he is used.
22:04
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if this sort of becomes
22:06
Speaker 1: Miles Jack defense. If you guys follow me, meaning like
22:09
Speaker 1: when you're talking about these guys on TV, if the
22:11
Speaker 1: commentators is saying, look how they're using this guy, Uh,
22:14
Speaker 1: they might unlock his potential to a degree has never
22:17
Speaker 1: been unlocked before. You have it, John, While you're at it,
22:21
Speaker 1: why don't you give us your everyone asks question? Today?
22:24
Speaker 1: It's been kind of weird because you know, Minshew, the
22:28
Speaker 1: one day we were there, he wasn't there, so we
22:31
Speaker 1: wound up watching uh y C. J. Bethor a lot.
22:35
Speaker 1: Uh have we learned anything about this quarterback position? To me,
22:40
Speaker 1: it's been a really weird o p A s back
22:42
Speaker 1: because of Trevor's injury. Uh, I know it's better but
22:46
Speaker 1: I haven't really just seen much of I haven't seen
22:48
Speaker 1: enough of Trevor to have any idea what I'm looking
22:51
Speaker 1: for in training camp, uh, JP, do we know any
22:54
Speaker 1: more than we did three weeks? Well, we know that
22:56
Speaker 1: that one day in the red zone, Ashlan, you referred
22:59
Speaker 1: to it earlier, that he didn't have the best of
23:02
Speaker 1: days that day, the defense was tight in the red
23:05
Speaker 1: zone and all that, But there has not been enough
23:08
Speaker 1: of a sample size for us to see, at least
23:10
Speaker 1: with our own eyes. And we've only been out there
23:12
Speaker 1: four days, uh in four weeks right out of what
23:17
Speaker 1: ten practices nine probably on the field ten including today,
23:21
Speaker 1: that's not a lot of time to see trends. And
23:25
Speaker 1: if a guy is stepping up one day after he
23:28
Speaker 1: struggled the next, and how he learned from it and
23:30
Speaker 1: all that. So I think we trust that things are
23:33
Speaker 1: better in the quarterback room, but yeah, we we would
23:36
Speaker 1: just haven't seen anything to really validate it yet. I'm
23:41
Speaker 1: still confident John that it is better, you know now,
23:45
Speaker 1: and then in the backup situation too, Right, the backup
23:49
Speaker 1: situation too is still for me unclear, like who's going
23:53
Speaker 1: to be clear? But I don't know if we like
23:54
Speaker 1: the answer. I think Gardner Minshew has had a much
23:57
Speaker 1: better offseeen than c. J. Beathard. I think he looks
24:00
Speaker 1: if you were to not know the backstory of anything,
24:02
Speaker 1: I would think Gardner Minshew looks like your backup quarterback. Now.
24:05
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want that, but when you're
24:07
Speaker 1: just looking at the level of play on the field,
24:10
Speaker 1: men show I think had had a better off season
24:11
Speaker 1: than Bethard. No. I think it's interesting because there's huge
24:15
Speaker 1: question marks at the QB two spot, Like with Gardner
24:17
Speaker 1: Minshew with c. J. Bethard. Both those guys have played
24:20
Speaker 1: in NFL games, have played in action, and I think
24:22
Speaker 1: they both have left a lot to be desired at times.
24:25
Speaker 1: Now when you're Urban Meyer coming in and you're there
24:29
Speaker 1: are Belville and Brian Schottenheimer. The quarterback up quarterback is
24:33
Speaker 1: a position of trust because you don't get a lot
24:35
Speaker 1: of reps in practice. A lot of it has to
24:36
Speaker 1: be mental reps and those things that you fill in.
24:39
Speaker 1: So who do you trust the most of those options.
24:43
Speaker 1: That's something we'll figure out really really quickly in the preseason.
24:46
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to Menshew Bethard debate and conversation
24:51
Speaker 1: at QB two. I agree that I threw it out there.
24:55
Speaker 1: I and Gardner Minshew have experienced all of that lends
25:01
Speaker 1: to an argument that he be the backup. But I'm
25:04
Speaker 1: with Bucky. You know it's I it's a position to trust.
25:09
Speaker 1: It's a position where they know what this guy is
25:12
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms, meaning meaning Bethard. I asked the
25:18
Speaker 1: question because I think it's it's fascinating that it's gonna
25:22
Speaker 1: open training camp where we're sort of trying to figure
25:24
Speaker 1: out how good Trever is starting off in this offense
25:28
Speaker 1: because we really haven't seen it yet, how much he's learned.
25:31
Speaker 1: We really haven't seen a whole lot of practice that
25:34
Speaker 1: I'm so we're watching that. And then I went the
25:36
Speaker 1: backup situation is gonna be it's it's a weirder quarterback
25:41
Speaker 1: situation going into training camp. I don't know if we'd
25:44
Speaker 1: just the right word, but it just feels like we
25:48
Speaker 1: know less than I thought we would, So I think
25:51
Speaker 1: it makes for an it for a very fascinating career.
25:53
Speaker 1: Four weeks camp final, everyone asks question today, and here's mine.
25:59
Speaker 1: What newcomer are you most excited to see in the
26:03
Speaker 1: first preseason game Besides Trevor Lawrence. Of course, I think
26:07
Speaker 1: we used that caveat with most every topic these days,
26:10
Speaker 1: because the answer is usually Trevor Lawrence, ashleyn Who do
26:13
Speaker 1: you like? I have a tie between two, but I'm
26:16
Speaker 1: gonna between Seaquille Griffin and Jahad Board. Both of these
26:21
Speaker 1: guys have stood out I think big time during the offseason.
26:25
Speaker 1: Jahad Board is a guy that you watch him with
26:27
Speaker 1: the defensive line, and he has seemed to mesh so
26:30
Speaker 1: quickly with this group, and he was a little intense
26:33
Speaker 1: at first when we met him, almost I'm going to
26:35
Speaker 1: say it like a unique and go way yeah. But
26:39
Speaker 1: then you watch him on the practice field and he's
26:41
Speaker 1: like this big, goofy guy that's having the time of
26:43
Speaker 1: his life out there. So I'm curious to see what
26:44
Speaker 1: his impact is. And then Sequille Griffin is just a
26:47
Speaker 1: walking sound bite and the leader of this this defense,
26:51
Speaker 1: the secondary. He is exactly what they needed. So I'm
26:54
Speaker 1: excited to see both of them. You can get away
26:56
Speaker 1: with calling him goofy all the rest of us. I
26:58
Speaker 1: don't think you do why he is yeah, I don't know.
27:01
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say, hey, goofy guy.
27:05
Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't know. I don't know
27:08
Speaker 1: if you respond, yeah, I don't I don't know if
27:12
Speaker 1: you respond. I mean, I mean, I don't know, Like
27:15
Speaker 1: I don't think, oh sh oh, sher. I'll take care
27:17
Speaker 1: of this, But I'm I'm gonna talk about the elephant
27:19
Speaker 1: in the room. Tim t bawl, like, we gotta come on.
27:22
Speaker 1: I gotta see. I gotta see what number eighty five
27:24
Speaker 1: is going to look like. I gotta see if he's
27:26
Speaker 1: going to be the preseason darling, Like if I want
27:28
Speaker 1: to see if he's gonna put points on the board,
27:30
Speaker 1: if he's going to be a guy that legitimately has
27:33
Speaker 1: an opportunity to not only make a roster but maybe
27:35
Speaker 1: be a contributor. So I just kind of want to
27:37
Speaker 1: see how that plays out in real time. We had
27:39
Speaker 1: a chance to see him catch some balls today. He
27:42
Speaker 1: catches the ball fairly well. He's more of a body
27:45
Speaker 1: catcher now, not necessarily a natural hands catcher. But the
27:48
Speaker 1: big thing will be his physicality and his aggressiveness, and
27:51
Speaker 1: we won't be able to assess that until we put
27:53
Speaker 1: the big boy pads on and we have some live
27:56
Speaker 1: contact we get in games. We see if Tim tebowl
27:59
Speaker 1: can make the transition from me in a quarterback to
28:01
Speaker 1: be in a position player, a tied in h back
28:03
Speaker 1: or whatever it is they're gonna use them. There's only
28:05
Speaker 1: one way to find out that put him right right
28:08
Speaker 1: in there, and that might even hold until the first
28:12
Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, we'll watch it in training camp,
28:16
Speaker 1: but I think that's gonna be the storyline of the
28:18
Speaker 1: first preseason game is when he's on the field us
28:22
Speaker 1: when it's a lie. That's when whatever they're planning for him,
28:26
Speaker 1: uh you know. I think that's the interesting part. If
28:30
Speaker 1: they're planning to use him in an unusual way, do
28:34
Speaker 1: you even speed in preseason? But he's gotta play in
28:37
Speaker 1: the preseason show he belonged. So it's that's a little
28:40
Speaker 1: bit of a weird dynamic because I just personally believe
28:44
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be on the team. There's gonna
28:46
Speaker 1: be elements where they use the skill set. But do
28:48
Speaker 1: you want to show that again your week one preseason opponent.
28:53
Speaker 1: I don't know so, but yeah, I agree with buck
28:57
Speaker 1: you there. As far as mine, I'll say Travis DPN
29:01
Speaker 1: because I would package that with Laviska Janals. He's had
29:06
Speaker 1: a newcomer, but I want to see how they're going
29:08
Speaker 1: to use those guys. I think that's one of the
29:10
Speaker 1: key stories of the offense, is this eights BacT that
29:13
Speaker 1: Urban keeps talking about. They use are one way in college,
29:17
Speaker 1: but it stands to reason it will be used differently
29:19
Speaker 1: in the NFL, just like River Lawrence will play differently
29:22
Speaker 1: in the NFL in terms of running when he was
29:25
Speaker 1: in college. So how they use that, how they try
29:28
Speaker 1: to translate that position. Travis DPN with a nod to Chenal,
29:32
Speaker 1: who's had a new comper. He doesn't question. I am
29:35
Speaker 1: going to go with a couple of blockers, a Walker
29:40
Speaker 1: Little and Chris man Hurts. Is this going to be this?
29:48
Speaker 1: You know what? What can Little do? I mean, we've
29:50
Speaker 1: seen him move and that's about it. He's got the
29:52
Speaker 1: big body and all that. And in preseason Game one
29:55
Speaker 1: he should have some significant playing time in that game,
29:58
Speaker 1: second half most likely. And then um for man Hurts.
30:02
Speaker 1: Can he be that run blocking tight end that was advertised?
30:06
Speaker 1: I just want to see him push some people around.
30:08
Speaker 1: I know that's really not the most exciting too the world,
30:12
Speaker 1: but okay, this is where we're seeing if people can
30:16
Speaker 1: move the furniture around I'm okay with that whole. So
30:20
Speaker 1: we get a chance to see I mean a little
30:22
Speaker 1: is a massive I mean a massive human saw him today.
30:26
Speaker 1: I mean he's a huge Stanford grad by the way,
30:28
Speaker 1: graduated this weekend. So I'm with that. I'm okay. Like
30:34
Speaker 1: in the trenches, the man Hurts is interesting too because
30:38
Speaker 1: how's he gonna block? But he's also looked more capable,
30:41
Speaker 1: more agile as a receiver. I think a lot of
30:45
Speaker 1: people expected, so Man Hurts, He's definitely a good choice.
30:49
Speaker 1: You know, how is he going to fit into the offense?
30:52
Speaker 1: Will they be a little better at tight end? And
30:54
Speaker 1: maybe observers are believing because of some of the things
30:56
Speaker 1: you can do in addition to blocking. So I kind
30:59
Speaker 1: of feeling to go catch more passes in this offense
31:02
Speaker 1: to people void. That's it for everyone asked today, And
31:06
Speaker 1: that's it for Jaguars reporters. Bucky Brooks on for the
31:10
Speaker 1: first time with us on This Reporter's podcast. Thank you
31:13
Speaker 1: for your time. We're gonna wear you out this week. Okay,
31:15
Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm official. I got the logo also,
31:18
Speaker 1: so I'm ready, ready making on it. Than true. I
31:22
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want yellow neck because they got
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31:26
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