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RWTK x Watch What Crappens: 2 for 1 Reunions - RHOP Reunion Part 1 Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
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  Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
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  Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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  Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
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  Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
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  Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: rain drops of today's episode of Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 1: I am super stoked. This year is starting off super right.
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  Speaker 1: And these two guys are the best, not one of
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  Speaker 1: I listen. I think that the two best in the
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  Speaker 1: business of podcasting. I adore them. They are super duper successful.
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  Speaker 1: They have live shows and listen, everybody knows these guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Being and Ronnie from the uber successful
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  Speaker 1: Watch What Happens podcast. Give it up, ladies, Jeltimate days
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  Speaker 1: and days for Ben and Ronnie.
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  Speaker 2: Great to be back. Thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness to talk to you. I know I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen each other maybe over a years, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm just so happy that you guys have blessed me
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  Speaker 1: to be on my podcast. I was a guest on yours.
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  Speaker 1: We had a good gay time and this time I
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  Speaker 1: want to return the favor. So, you guys have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of live shows coming up. So my rain drops
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  Speaker 1: are also fans of the two of you. So where
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  Speaker 1: can they, like support get tickets? What cities are coming up?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Sweet? Thanks?
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  Speaker 4: You can go to watch at Crappins dot com and
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  Speaker 4: March we'll be in Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Toronto, Charlotte, Atlanta, DC,
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  Speaker 4: and Philly. So find tickets over there, and then other
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  Speaker 4: dates for the following months over there.
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  Speaker 5: It's a whole bunch more after that. But you know
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  Speaker 5: we're not gonna spam you with all the all the cities.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, there's a big list on Watchrocrapins dot com.
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  Speaker 2: We're really excited now.
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  Speaker 1: So I started to do my podcast live on the
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  Speaker 1: road as well.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of work, and the days you guys
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  Speaker 1: have are giving me Cowboy Carter Beyonce at So like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Are pretty much full for twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Five because people love to see you guys. What can't
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  Speaker 1: that expect when they see you guys live?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, we do like a stand like not
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  Speaker 5: stand like a classic Watchra crap Ins thing where we
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  Speaker 5: go up there, we recap the shows, we go seen
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  Speaker 5: by singing, we do our impersonations, but because it's live,
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  Speaker 5: we just are able to be like a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more physical, and it's like we also feed that audience feedback.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you feel this way, Carlos, but
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  Speaker 5: like when the audience is just like there's like electricity
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  Speaker 5: in the audience, that usually kind of feeds us in
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  Speaker 5: a way that's different from doing the shows like the Stand,
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  Speaker 5: like at home shows that I personally really love that
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  Speaker 5: I feel like gives everything kind of a sort of crispy,
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  Speaker 5: exciting quality to it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like when you watch a sitcom and they
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  Speaker 4: have a laugh track, they're funnier, okay, like the old
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  Speaker 4: classic They're just funnier that way. I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: that works, but I've listened to a couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: I love yours, and yours are lit. I mean people
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  Speaker 4: are going crazy in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, honey, they're dancing, they're drinking, they're eating, and
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  Speaker 1: my rain drops are the type of crowd where they
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  Speaker 1: yell out comments because I'll bring on a guest, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I had Teresa do. My favorite story is I
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  Speaker 1: did a live show in New York City at the
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  Speaker 1: City WINERYD with Teresa iconic legend. Yeah, ju guys right
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  Speaker 1: are tree huggers and the rain drops?
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  Speaker 3: No, Ben and Ronnie in the same room.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they yelled at us, not like like, not like negatively.
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  Speaker 3: It was more so like at this person, fuck that person.
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  Speaker 3: She's she's.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 3: Teresa loved it. She ain't it up.
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  Speaker 2: Look.
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  Speaker 3: Teresa's like, well, I can't say it, but you guys
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  Speaker 3: surely can't. So it was fun. It was fun. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's fun because you know what.
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  Speaker 5: Like we're like everyone, these are all Bravo fans, right,
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  Speaker 5: and like we so rarely like these days, people aren't
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  Speaker 5: even going into an office, so like an office cooler
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  Speaker 5: is sort of non existent anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do have an office cooler.
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  Speaker 5: One person's watching one show, one person's watching another show.
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  Speaker 2: No one's watching the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: So these live shows are really kind of a chance
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  Speaker 5: for people to come together and kind of really kind
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  Speaker 5: of live in these fan moments. And it's like it's
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  Speaker 5: really fun. People do they always are like fuck her,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and it's it's it's great. We had an
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  Speaker 5: GK from Salt Lake City on our show recently, our
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  Speaker 5: live show.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, no man, not to cut you off. K is
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  Speaker 3: my new obsession.
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  Speaker 2: She is great. No.
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  Speaker 5: So we did a show in Salt Lake City and
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  Speaker 5: she came to it and she was so wonderful and
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  Speaker 5: the crowd, like, I mean, it was when she came
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  Speaker 5: out on stage, that crowd. I was like, you know
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  Speaker 5: that she lives in your city, right, you could probably
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  Speaker 5: just go to a salad and find her. But like
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  Speaker 5: they it was just like that is loud. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I think just being around Bravo fans is just a
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  Speaker 5: very exciting thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're the best. They're the best of the best.
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  Speaker 3: So we have to get into the latest.
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  Speaker 1: Episode, part one, the Royal Housewives of Potomac Reunion. I
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  Speaker 1: must say, I really enjoy this reunion because the thing
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  Speaker 1: about this particular episode, to me, it was funny, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm always going to choose funny over anything else too, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Do you agree, Ronnie?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Helly, Yeah, if it's funny, I can forgive anything else.
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  Speaker 4: I think the season was uneven, and I think they
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  Speaker 4: kind of sense that coming into.
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  Speaker 3: The reunion, and they made up for it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, even without Karen there, they just dragged her
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  Speaker 4: ass the whole time anyway, And I thought, but it
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  Speaker 4: was so funny.
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  Speaker 3: Everything the whole thing was about Karen. I cracked up.
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  Speaker 1: My mouth was on the floor because let's just get
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  Speaker 1: into it. So the episode begins with Karen looking like.
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  Speaker 3: She's in the witness protection program.
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  Speaker 1: She is at home, full on old navy, do you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And yes, I'm like, wait, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on? And she's emoting to the camera. How you
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  Speaker 1: know she's not in the best place.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she knows there's people who look up to her.
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  Speaker 2: You know, do what I say, children look up to her?
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  Speaker 3: Carlos, let's get into that. I love Karen.
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  Speaker 1: I was fortunate to see Karen maybe a week before
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  Speaker 1: the verdict came out. We were in Los Angeles at
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  Speaker 1: a party and she wasn't drinking.
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  Speaker 3: I want the world to know that she was.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see her drink anything, So I want everyone
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  Speaker 1: to know that, for real, she was in a a
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  Speaker 1: in a decent mood. But seeing the video, I felt
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  Speaker 1: obviously bad for her. Is not a laughing matter. But
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  Speaker 1: when she said children look up to me, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I want my child between the
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  Speaker 1: ages of five and eight watching this show and looking
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  Speaker 1: up to any anybody on these shows.
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  Speaker 3: But I thought that was odd to say children.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Karen, Karen. No children are looking up to you.
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  Speaker 4: They are looking away. They're running away from you because
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  Speaker 4: your ass is coming after them for their stem cells.
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  Speaker 3: No one, no child.
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  Speaker 4: In America is looking at Karen and thinking, Wow, what
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  Speaker 4: a hero. They're thinking, how how's that lady talking without
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  Speaker 4: her teeth staying still?
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  Speaker 5: She's acting like she is on like the posters for
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  Speaker 5: unicf right now.
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  Speaker 4: We love Karen, but come on, the best part of
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  Speaker 4: Karen is her delusion.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm a hero? I hear out of the children.
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  Speaker 2: Look to me.
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  Speaker 5: Like was there was there like an army of small
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  Speaker 5: children outside this party the edge of way through because
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  Speaker 5: they're all just clawing at her, trying to trying to
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  Speaker 5: get her, just trying to touch her arm.
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  Speaker 3: I don't miss it.
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  Speaker 2: The thing what care? It is?
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  Speaker 1: Like I said as I was watching it, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: this is so sad. It's kind of depressing. But to
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  Speaker 1: no cares a love for the children. Part of like
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  Speaker 1: I literally got out of the moment of sadness. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Like children?
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  Speaker 1: Because what he said my fans, because she has fans
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  Speaker 1: and people love the Grand Dams, so that was confusing
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  Speaker 1: to me. I want to ask you, guys, this not
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  Speaker 1: here to diagnose anybody, right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she made a point to.
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  Speaker 4: Say, listen, I've read enough about it on Reddit to
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  Speaker 4: know that I can know whatever is out there. I'm
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  Speaker 4: so sick of people telling me I need to have
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  Speaker 4: to go to college or get a degree in this
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  Speaker 4: and that. Get the fuck out of here. I don't
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  Speaker 4: with enough bipolar, crazy ass people. I've dated enough. Listen,
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  Speaker 4: here's my degree, penis is. Okay, I've dealt with them,
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  Speaker 4: and I can diagnose whatever the hell I want to.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care what year it is.
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  Speaker 2: Ronnie like Stacy is very educated.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get to that too.
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  Speaker 3: She's educated in the streets and maybe the sheets.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, and articulately, for the record, that is not
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  Speaker 1: a word. Okay, Cara bit appoint those guys to say
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  Speaker 1: that she does not have a drinking problem.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, she has a problem not drinking.
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  Speaker 2: She has a driving problem though.
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  Speaker 3: And look, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: The problem isn't if you have a drinking problem, I
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  Speaker 4: don't care. And I feel like we're we love these
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  Speaker 4: shows and some of the best housewives have a drinking
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  Speaker 4: problem and I don't care. I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 4: should be part of the job requirement. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: need at least one per city. The problem is driving
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  Speaker 4: while you're shit faced, you know what I mean? You
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  Speaker 4: have an uber problem?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: But also like notice that, like she you know, she's like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't have a drinking problem, and then she says, well,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go away so I can find out about
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  Speaker 5: why I took antidepressants while I drank. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: so you're being slippery again, which is again why we
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  Speaker 5: love her. But like on the one hand she's saying
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  Speaker 5: she's taking full accountability, while the other hands saying, like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have a problem. I just happened to take antidepressants.
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  Speaker 5: At the same time, it's like I'm not sure about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the thing is that what we saw the show.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say maybe since season two, honestly, there
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  Speaker 1: has like this bitiness like hanging care that's been dangling
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  Speaker 1: excuse me where the not she has a drinking problem.
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  Speaker 1: Sharie Jordan Jackson was on my podcast and she did
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  Speaker 1: say that Karen is known as the old.
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  Speaker 3: Drunk at the bar.
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  Speaker 1: Every other housewife pretty much intimated that there's something there.
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  Speaker 1: And when it comes to Karen, like you're saying Ben
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  Speaker 1: speaking about the antidepressants and listen, I'm not saying that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case, right, But I do think there obviously
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  Speaker 1: is an issue there, and I do hope that in
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  Speaker 1: this recovery center because one thing that isn't being said
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  Speaker 1: is the word rehab. And obviously, when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: these housewives and their publicists, it's very carefully.
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  Speaker 3: Crafted these statements.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think rehab is not being used in
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  Speaker 1: this conversation, but the calling it a recovery center.
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  Speaker 5: Because if you say rehab, if she has a drink later,
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  Speaker 5: people will get on her about falling off the wagon.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's not saying she was on the wagon in
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  Speaker 2: the first place.
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  Speaker 5: She was just sort of like being towed by the
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  Speaker 5: wagon or something, so she can't really fall off of it.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of the Shannon Badoor school of alcoholism. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you're not an alcoholic unless you say you are, and
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  Speaker 4: I think that is kind of true in life. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I cut back on drinking a lot, and people have
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  Speaker 4: approached me and said, you've really helped me with my sobriety.
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  Speaker 4: And I almost feel guilty because I never said I
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  Speaker 4: was sober, Like I'm not completely sober, but I've gotten
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  Speaker 4: my shit together. And so I think that there's a
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  Speaker 4: difference because if I ever say I'm an alcoholic, you know,
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  Speaker 4: then people will be like, then why do I smell
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  Speaker 4: vodka on your breath?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've got to have breakfast. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: have to.
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  Speaker 4: Explain myself everywhere I go. And so that's the difference,
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  Speaker 4: Like when you're ready to say you're an alcoholic and
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  Speaker 4: you're ready to make that your thing, because that does
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  Speaker 4: become your thing. It's like if you're in college and
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  Speaker 4: you have a penis or two. You know you're and
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  Speaker 4: you don't say anything about it. It's fine, but the
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  Speaker 4: first time somebody calls you gay, you're done.
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  Speaker 2: You know you're committed to the lifestyle. We all know it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's alcoholism. If you say you're an alcoholic,
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  Speaker 4: that's it, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So this way, there's like options for later on now.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I always think about was a few
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  Speaker 5: seasons ago, was it that like Nique's basement or something
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  Speaker 5: like as Karen getting wasted at like that basement like
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  Speaker 5: bar that Monique had, And.
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  Speaker 2: That to me is more of like that.
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  Speaker 5: That is more of the damaging you know, uh footage
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  Speaker 5: for Karen, like after that moment where we say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't realize that Karen, Karen's kind of a drunk,
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  Speaker 5: isn't she?
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  Speaker 2: Because she was. I just will always remember that footage.
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  Speaker 5: She was like her hair was hanging down in her
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  Speaker 5: face and she's like, let me say.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, Karen, Karen, like Karen, obviously
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  Speaker 3: somebody likes to have fune.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you're watching the footage that was courtesy
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  Speaker 1: of obviously the police, and she brought up the Grand
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  Speaker 1: Dome pretty much said she doesn't know how she got
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  Speaker 1: that name.
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  Speaker 3: Andy come and gave it to our And I'm like, not,
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  Speaker 3: why is Andy in it? Like what?
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  Speaker 1: But it goes to show you that unfortunately, and Ronnie,
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  Speaker 1: You're right, these housewives, they obviously have a certain characteristic
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  Speaker 1: that we do.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Karen does live two different worlds.
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  Speaker 1: I think when the camera's on, Karen feels the need
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  Speaker 1: to present this granddam image. And I also think that's
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  Speaker 1: largely the reason why she may be in the predictivement
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  Speaker 1: she's in, because she's not living her authentic self.
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  Speaker 4: I want to think Karen, but I think that is Karen.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Karen's a delusional, crazy person, and
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  Speaker 4: that is her, you know, she is. I think she
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  Speaker 4: probably has always walked around like she's the shit, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and she's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Do it no matter what.
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  Speaker 4: And she'll be the same way in prison, you know,
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  Speaker 4: she'll still be the Granddam of prison and being like, really,
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  Speaker 4: do we stab each other with folks or is that
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  Speaker 4: how we eat all mush? Come on, now, these people
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  Speaker 4: have worked hard to make us good spokes.
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  Speaker 3: Let's use them with Yeah. I mean, here's some manners people.
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  Speaker 5: I generally speaking, I almost always hate when a real
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  Speaker 5: housewife produces herself and is very guarded and you're like
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  Speaker 5: getting a version that she thinks that you want to see.
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  Speaker 2: And Karen is really an exception to the rule.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I don't know if I want to see the
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  Speaker 5: regular Karen who SLINKs into the tally hoe on a
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  Speaker 5: Saturday morning in sweats.
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  Speaker 2: I think I want to see grandam version of Karen
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  Speaker 2: with all.
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  Speaker 5: Like she just says like bullshit after bullshit after bullshit
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  Speaker 5: in a way that I'm just like, yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 5: Bring it on because watching her sort of like bend
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  Speaker 5: the truth or like you like, sort of be very
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  Speaker 5: slippery with her words to make it all make sense
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  Speaker 5: is kind of like one of the great perks of
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  Speaker 5: watching her.
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  Speaker 3: Now listen, she's so fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: So when I was at the party with her in December,
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  Speaker 1: she had on a fabulous wig. She wore a black outfit.
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  Speaker 1: She was with her daughter. She was very pleasant. So
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie and Ben I say to her, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: know I love you. She was like, Carlos, I love
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  Speaker 1: you too. I said, listen, when are you going to
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  Speaker 1: come on my podcast?
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  Speaker 3: She was like, bitch never? And I said why not?
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, why would I I know all about you?
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  Speaker 1: You could you could trick these other girls. You can't
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  Speaker 1: trick me with your questions. I'm like, but what was crazy?
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  Speaker 2: If?
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  Speaker 3: It made me love her even more?
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  Speaker 1: Like to get dismissed by Karen Huger kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: makes me happy.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Orse, Yeah, it's amazing. And it also means she listens,
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  Speaker 4: you know, she knows what.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, she knows what's going on. She knows what's
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So when you saw the Sharon Stone Basic Instinct video
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: that Karen was in, I mean, blonde hair boy, the
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: white dress, giving virginal tease, Yes, beautifully lit, the best
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: she's ever looked. I mean, I don't want to say it, man,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: but she never looked better like she was, like I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: think that Recovery Center glow up.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It was already starting to kick in.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: And Ben was saying in the recap that it's like
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: the difference in Monster, where shir Lisa On wins the
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Oscar for playing Monster in that terrible outfit, and then
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: she comes back later for the Academy Award looking like
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: slowly through. And I thought that was a perfect way
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: to put it, because that really is what it was.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Supporting mom Jean from Old Navy and you know, a
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: possum on my head and then she comes back and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: she's like, don't worry, it's still me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: That's why it's so important for supporting actresses to win
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: these Oscars, because they're like, look, I didn't wear makeup.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: And I put in fake teeth for this role, so
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: I need the Oscar to show everyone I'm still actually
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: very glamorous and beautiful.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: And that's what Karen was doing, and she gave an
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: oscar speech too.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: I like to thank Andy Cohen, Andy Cohen, because you
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: sent me an evite to an event I had really
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: got me through a few days.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: There in December.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: And also Ashley, Ashley, I enjoyed the like that you
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: gave me on Instagram.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: That really helped you. Camera man, Thank you water boys,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: of all of you, all of you went.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: To the bus boy tally ho. Thank you for my coffee.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: We're all grand Dams today.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I'm cracking up because it was like an accepted speech.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And my favorite part was where she said one last person.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I honestly thought it was going to be Ray, who
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: had her back the entire time, but she said Andy Cohen,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and he said, bitch me, Like wait what she'snny.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: She's like, let me just be sure, let me make
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: sure I say I keep having I want to make
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: sure I have that first seat next year at the
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: reunion when I come back side.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: It's so funny that everyone said, how dare you not
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: say Wendy, I thought you would say witty, and no
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: one thought why didn't you say Ray?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: No, we didn't even think that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: You're the only person I've heard say like, why wouldn't
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: you think she pulled a Hillary?
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: What's that girl's name?
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: We won the Oscar and didn't think her stupid Hillary?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But listen, what I really did love and was honestly
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: surprised by was Giselle in tears, because look, Giselle isn't
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the most.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Warm or sensitive on the show, so to see that
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: level of.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Warmness come out of her, I really did enjoy it
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, Okay, I really believe that she was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: sincere and that Did you guys buy that as well?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Or did you think it was another Oscar winning performance?
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell it because she, like Giselle, famously, does
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: not like to cry on camera, right, and I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: she barely even cried for her dad's passing, So the
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: fact that it was Karen that brought her to tears,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I couldn't help but wonder if it was if it
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: was like a little performative, But then I thought, well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: she doesn't need to be performative about this. If anything,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: she would want to laugh about it. So I was
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: like this, I guess that was sincere, but it felt
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: strange and wrong.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel comfortable with it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I think it seemed real.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I just you know, I think with Giselle's really good
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: with her alliances, and this this year, her alliance is
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: with Karen. You know, she's anti Stacy no matter what,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: even if Stacey doesn't do anything, She's just going to
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: go for it. So I think she's a pro. But
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: also they've been friends for so long, and it is sad.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: You know, we make a lot of Karen jokes, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I mean Karen makes it easy because that video where
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: she was pulled over and she's telling the cop you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: like I am lit and like, you know, all that
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: stuff that she did in the video was just so hilarious.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Like as dark as it is, it was just so
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: fucking funny to watch because it's so Karen to be
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: in a duy video like that. But even through all
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: of that, you know, it is so sad, and you
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: are seeing someone who's really sad and she's kind of
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: at rock bottom and she's so mortified, and someone who
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: cares that much about what people think about her to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: be going through that, so, you know, so it is
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: sad on many levels. So yeah, I think that Giselle's
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: a good enough friend to you know, care because that's real.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: A lot of the stuff on these things are just fake,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: stupid fights they make up, and this is something real.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: So it was nice to see that from Giselle.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also think too, these ladies know way more
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: than we can even imagine, and I think for them
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it was the realization that if finally caught up with her,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: like if finally got caught up with her, And I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: do think a lot of them want the best for her,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like they really want her to take this seriously, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: all of us do, like listen when it comes to Karen.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: She's a great reality star. She obviously is one of
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the faces of Atomac. She's funny to watch, but we
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: all want to make sure she takes care of herself because,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like you said, if you want to drink, that's fine,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: but Paula Uber like, don't get behind the wheel and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: make the mistake of doing what you did again. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: hopefully that happens. But one mistake that was made that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we saw too was Wendy believing that Karen was her friend.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: So throughout the season, we did see doctor Wendy have
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Karen's back shut down every conversation where her name was
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: brought up when she wasn't around, But to see that
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Karen talk about her to stay and then for when
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: did to find out about that and admitted that she
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: regrets in biting her to the White House.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: What did you guys make of all of that?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Like, do you feel like it's true that cam and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: befriends the newbie to be like this mother hand and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: then once she sees them become independent without her, she
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: drops them.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I think Karen one hundred percent does that, And I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: think it is partially like a psychological thing. I think
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: she wants to be a mother hen and then partially
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: it's like, hey, I'm gonna get out in front of
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: the nar I'm gonna shape the narrative.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna shape her from the beginning.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: But I think when you do that, it always comes
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: back to bite you because people always crosscheck and they
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: double check and then they realize, wait a second, Like
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I came into this group and you made me believe
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: a certain thing, but you actually poisoned all these relationships
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: and now I'm the one who is suffering because of
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: it because you did this to me. And invariably the
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: person that she tries to bring in and do that too,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: they always turn on her, and she doesn't seem to
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: realize that it's like ultimately a losing strategy. But I
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: think that, uh, I think Karen, she she tries, she tries,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: and I'm sure I'm shocked. I'm shocked that Wendy really
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: thought that Karen had her back, especially because their relationship
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: was actually the opposite of that, because when Wendy came
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: into the group, Karen specifically did not go up to
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: her and try to like to mother hen her. She
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: actually tried to actly she didn't even know Wendy when
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: they actually didn't know each other.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: But I think two things can be true too. I mean, look,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think Karen deserves to be shocked to hell
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: just because she talks shit about somebody. It's not like
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Wendy sits there. It's not like Wendy wouldn't say in
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: a group, in a private group like this one is crazy.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: She's full of shit, but she's fun, you know. I Mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I think that it's fair that Karen met with this
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: new person. She's like, Now, Wendy you got to watch
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: out for because she's very serious about herself. She's going
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: to talk about her degrees all the time, and she's
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: annoying as fuck, but she's also got these other things
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: that are great about her. You know, that's just normal
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: girl shit talking. So this whole like, I'm gonna tell
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: on Karen care was never your friend.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: That's not true.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can be friends with someone and also
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: think they're an asshole fifty percent of the times. Otherwise
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have friends. My friends wouldn't hang out with me.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they talk about.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Me all the time. So some of that I was
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: just like.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Eh, you all talk shit about each other, and I don't.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I don't want to crucify Karen for that because she's
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: not necessarily wrong about Wendy. But she also still likes Wendy,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. She didn't say anything that bad.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: She said she's self absorbed and whatever else about Wendy
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: and Wendy is like that. You know, just read any
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: comments where the audience speaks. I mean, Wendy, Wendy can't
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: be like that. But Wendy's also really funny, and she's
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: also a good friend, and she's also got a lot
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: of really good qualities, you know.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: So the other thing is with Karen too, is it's
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: not it's not just that she wants to mother Hen,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: but she is basically investing in you.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: As her soldier. I mean, she uses the phrase soldiers
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: all the time, which I was.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Like, who's going a soldier for Karen?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Who good?
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: It's like, why are we soldiering for someone who craps?
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Gether no media, and she'll take me down in the
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: middle of the street.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: But basically, she pours all this into people, and she's
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: always like she's a good girl, and she brings people
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: to the tally ho and she goes she brings them
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: under her wing. But it's basically it's basically because there's
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: gonna come a moment when she's gonna call upon you
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and she's gonna need you, and if you're not there
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: at that moment, then she will then destroy you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what happened in Stacy. It happens
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: every year with someone like.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: She calls them soldiers and she's using a war term
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: when she takes them to lunch, like she takes up
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: to the tally ho, which is a war term.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I love that I need to go to the tally ho.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I would love to go to tally ho the thing listen.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I think Karen also understands that. Look, she is an
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: og and when these new girls come on. I tell
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: people this all the time, Ben and Rannie, these housewives
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: form alliances. And what's shocking to me is the audience
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: gets mad at me when I say that, and I'm like,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: do you guys really believe that these friendships are going.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: To last outside of the show, Like got I got
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: read for Philip when I said guard Solth and.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Sutton of friendship of convenience. I'm not saying they don't
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like each other. I'm not saying they hey me. All
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is if their friends five years post the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: show not them bup I being on, I would be surprised.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Right when it comes to Karen, I think Karen is
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: trying to, like you guys said, have her soldiers on
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: her team.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think any of these women, in.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: My opinion, I don't think there's not one Potomac housewife
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: in this current cast that are friends in real life.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I think Giselle and Robin are our best friends with
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: or without the show. I think Alexis and Marisol are
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: best friends with or without the show, and I think
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it there right.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got Exel and Teddy, but that doesn't really count,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I guess because Teddy's not there, right. Teddy, I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: is still kind of an alliance in that sense where
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: she's just like she's Teddy, like she's gonna ride hard
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: for Kyle, and I think she still thinks she's going
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: to be back on that show and they're gonna have
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: like a power. But yeah, I see what you're saying,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: and I do think that's what it is. And I
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: think that's why Wendy's stuff rings a little untrue. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: just mean the stuff from the reunion where she's all
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: of a sudden mad with Karen now, because I think
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: that was just when they talk about like who's called Karen,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Who's talked to Karen since all this happened. Wendy hasn't
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: talked to Karen since they filmed the show, So I
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: think that that's more, you know, that speaks to more
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: of who's real friends and who's not, you know, even
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: astally talked to her and even or texted her at
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: least like there were a couple of them who are like, well,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: we talked at Christmas or we talked to New Year's
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: which I think is normal for kind of an average friendship,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, I just don't buy that they
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: were ever best friends. But Wendy needs in the line,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I mean Wendy, and so does Karen. Karen was always again,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: always trying to come for Karen, and Wendy really needed
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: it after the past couple of years. And so I
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: think Karen was pretty good until she got caught talking
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: shit behind her back. I think she was a pretty
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: good alliance member for Wendy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Is there a conspiracy theory here? Tell me if this
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: is too conspiratorial, or if this is a possibility that
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Wendy because Wendy's smart and she knows who Karen Huger is,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: and she knows Karen talks shit and everything, and she
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: knows Karen never really accepted her. Is there a possibility
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: that Wendy's had watch I'm coming back this season.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be contentious.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: You're gonna see like a nicer, more like chill Wendy,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and I am going to stand up for Karen, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna and I'm going to stand up so hard
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: for and watch she will betray me. There will come
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: a moment when she will betray me, and when that happens,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: people will see that I'm actually the cool person here right, like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: because Wendy was sort of people didn't really love Wendy
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: the past few seasons, and she's do you think that
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: she was? Like, I'm going to blindly back Karen on
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: spec that she would get the betrayal and be able
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: to have the betrayal card.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna take it back.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Style.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I agree with Ben.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: The thing is this, doctor Wendy is the smartest woman
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on that stage, not just for degrees, but it turns
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: out how to play the game. I think doctor Wendy
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: sits back and looks at everything around her, and she
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: plays according to the players within the room. And she,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: unlike most reality stars who form alliances, doctor Wendy plays
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the game to the end like she can like forecast,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like to your point, band, I know the history of Karen,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and I know at the end of the day, the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: audience will see that I've had her back. So when
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Karen messes up the audience, not the girls, because who
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: gives a shit, right, the audience will be on my side.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: So when I go after Karen next season, because that's
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: what that's actually what's being set up, right, was being
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: set up is a Karen versus Wendy, and I'm here
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: for it. Doctor Wendy plays this game of housewives better
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: than anyone on that couch.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: So I would not put it past her.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I think I think Doctor Wendy's first season, like any housewife,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: she came in like I'm gonna be me and I'm
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: going to be myself, and I believe she watched a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: couple of episodes or seasons and understood the dynamics. But
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: once she got through her first season and she got
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: read for four degrees, we've seen a different Doctor Wendy.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And I think this season was her best one because
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: she knew, like the fan favorite from an audience standpoint
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is Aaron, So let me ride with the fan favorite, and.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: It's like a sympathy play. It's a really strong sympathy play.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: And I think that maybe she thought she would get
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: sympathy from when she and Gazelle and Robin had their
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: initial falling out when they brought up rumors about Eddie
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: and everything, and like I was the audience, I personally
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: don't think any of us really cared, like, you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: it was shitty of them to do it, but it
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: wasn't like, oh my god, poor Wendy. We're like, okay,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: it's just like it's just another notch on the Potomac
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: bench there and everything. So this is more of like
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: a I'm gonna be good and look, oh my god,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I can't believe Karen would do this to me.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And honestly, you're right.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: It does totally set up next season, and Wendy going
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: after Karen will be I think significantly more entertaining than
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: what we've seen the past few years, which has been
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: a lot of Mia going after Karen because me is
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: just like, you know, she's like a like a floppy
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: fish on a dock, you know, kind of like.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Not a floppy disk on your Mac computer back in.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: The eighty Give her that much credit.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Those things at least you know, held in from things,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: could remember things.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here's where I think Wendy is. Here's where I predict.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I predict Wendy may go wrong next year because you're
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: saying she's the smartest one this and that, but Wendy
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: doesn't generally have the audience on her side. I mean,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I feel like she she hasn't really aimed correctly and
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: she's focused her annoyance at the wrong people. Like that
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: season when they had the whole happy Eddy thing. She
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: should have won that hands down, like she should have
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: won the audience stuff hands down, but she didn't because
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: she was too focused on Mia having being fake and
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: all of this other stuff that she was going after
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: me as like surgery is that was the same season
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: right right it started off, Yeah, so she kind of
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: didn't have the right take on that. And then I
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: think when she comes back with this Karen thing, she's
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: gonna go way too hard on the you're an alcoholic.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I think she's gonna fall into the Tamra Judge hole
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: where Tamra was.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Like, you dirty alcoholic bitch, and.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: She's gonna play that too hard and then she's gonna
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: end up having to be contrived by the the reunion
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: like Tamra. So I hope she doesn't fall into that
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: hole because it's the lowest hanging fruit. I mean, coming
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: after Karen for literally anything else. I mean, I'm not
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: saying don't come after her for the drinking and stuff,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: but I hope that she doesn't make that her whole
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: crusade because I think it's going to blow up in
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: her face. And she's in pretty good standing right now, but.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: That could mess up in Karen's face, right because if Karen,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: you know, with Shannon, she was doing the whole thing like, well,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I've taken accountability, I've gone and seen doctor Moon.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm trying to take and make changes
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: in my life. And so for Tamra to.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Be, like, you know, anacoholic, it just felt so cruel.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: This woman's trying to change.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: But if Karen comes back and is still not really
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: even acknowledging that anything really happened, like oh, I lost
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: control of the car or something like that, and Wendy
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: comes after, she might actually be able to do it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: And also, not for nothing, Tamra being totally vile and
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: evil on the last season of Orange County made us.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: All be like, ooh, you're the worst. But it was
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: also an absolutely amazing season, the best.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But it wasn't a great reunion because Tamara ended
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: up kind of failing the end where she.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Was just good, It's going to be nice.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Now it's like, no, you have to commit if you're
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the villain, commit, I know.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: But see that's okay, okay, okay, we have to we.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Have to we have to settle on this for a second,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: because I'm glad I have you two, because you.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Two are like you know, the.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Housewives historians, and I would love to get your POV
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on this. I love a villain, right because anybody who
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: grew up watching NAT's Landing, Dynasty, Merro's Place, you know
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like the iconic dramatic series. Every successful
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: drama show has a villain, and the actor usually wins
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: an Emmy, do you know what.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I mean for their amazing performance.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Right when it comes to Housewives, Tama Judge is a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Heather Locklear, have the Locklear inspired villain on that show, Blonde,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: beautiful and just doesn't give a fuck, and I am.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Here for it.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the audience on social media appears to hate it
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and they call for her dismissal. And because of that,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you have someone like a Tama Judge who have to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: come to the reunion putting her hands on her ass
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and sit on it to make sure she doesn't say
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: anything to like maybe lose her job. But she made
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it one of the best OC seasons ever, at least
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: top three, you know what I mean? Why is it
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: hard for the audience to accept that? Just like you
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: love your favorite villain on your drama or your soap operas,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: why can't they accept one on Housewives?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's just the she just takes it too far.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: She just gets too dark, And I think that's the
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: problem on a lot of Housewives. They just go too
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: far and the audience doesn't like it when it's just
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: something manufactured or fake. I mean, we know that Tama, well,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: we know that Shannon got dui already, so we're coming in.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: We're not expecting her not to be called that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: But then Tamra just goes so mean or she goes
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: so mean, you're poor and then your husband's this, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: she just gets so deep and dark that you can't
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: stand up for her. It's better when there's something kind
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: of natural, there some reason to hate somebody, like when
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: she went after Gretchen. She hated Greta and this is
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: way back in history, but she hated Gretchen's ass and
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: she hated her for reasons that people could get. Gretchen's
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: like this young girl married to this old guy, pretending
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: that she loves the old guy and trying to get
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: pity when meanwhile she's sucking some other guy at bass
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Lake and everybody knows it. And so when Tamra's bringing
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: it up, she's actually getting you on something that's real,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: and the audience also hates you for that reason. So
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: she's kind of being the villain for the audience. She's
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: taking the person down that the audience wants to kind
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: of be taken down. But then once she just becomes
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: mean and she's like, well, that person's popular, so I'm
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: going to bring her down a peg and I'm just
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: going to be horrible, Like the stuff with Jim Piedrante
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: is just horrible. I mean, that girl is like a
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: little lamb. The audience loves that girl, Like, why would
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you try to slaughter her? You can't slaughter people that
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: you want. You have to slaughter people that the audience
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: wants you to slaughter.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: I think that we I think that we don't. We
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: don't like what the villains have to say on reality TV.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: That's what makes them villains. They are often they often
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: are mean, and they often do go too far. The
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: best ones know exactly know what the line is and
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: don't cross it, and sometimes they do go over it,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: et cetera. But so people call for their for them
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: to be fired all the time. But I do believe
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: that what they don't realize is that when people are
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: calling for these people to be fired, they don't realize
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: how much they are actually loving the dramatic contributions they're
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: making to the show. Because when you hate someone so much,
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: it does add a lot of dramatic stakes to what
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: you're watching. And so as much as you hate these people,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: like you can't you can't say, like, oh, Southern Southern
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Troum season five was arguably one of Southern Trump's best seasons.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: And that's when you had Ashley, which is the first
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: time they ever had a mega villain and the only
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: time they had a mega mega villain on that show.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: And we're all mad, we're all in it because you're
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: all waiting for that elimination of like get rid of her,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: put her down or whatever. And so it's like, we like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: the people drive us nuts, but we kind of have
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: to live with them. And it's like with a scripted show.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Like a soap opera, the villains drive us nuts, but
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: they're villains and we.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Know that they're written.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: But here these are like real people saying things, and
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: so there's an element of like did they just say that?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Was this a real person that just said that?
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Does anyone else like like they're like, this is the villain, right,
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: because there's almost like in a soap opera, you know
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: who the villains are, but in reality TV, like it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: not always clear is this person really the villain? Because
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: now we're seeing a sympathetic scene with them with like
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: at their child. So it like riles people up, but
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: I think that we have to protect our villains.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, well also will make that show stop changing mid
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: stream because of the audience, because I know that it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: got to be traumatizing to come online and everything being
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: like I hate you, I hate you, fire her fire,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: especially for someone like Tamra who did lose her job,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: so now she knows what that pain is and she's
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: trying not to do it again. But it killed her
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: in the end, I mean, it didn't kill her. She's back,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: she'll be fine, but I mean at the end of
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: the season, that's what ended up getting her.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: You need to be like a Gizelle.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Gizelle and I have to say, I've had years where
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I love Gizelle and I've had years where I hate her,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: And I just mean in the audience kind of a
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: way where you love to hate her. But Gizelle doesn't
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: apologize for Dick and Gizelle will go on there and
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: when they say, Gizelle, the audience hates you this year
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: for bullying whoever, and she's like, whatever, I don't read that,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: like I do not care if they hate me.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: And Robin was the same way.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: She's like, I don't care. Now you have to be
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: because Gizelle is tough one, you know. And I think
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: that any fan can respect Gizelle even if they don't
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: like her child.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: No and listen.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed Giselle this season, and I enjoyed Giselle this reunion.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I've met Gizelle a couple of times.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: We ungau.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I can say to this for sure, Giselle is a
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: cool ass woman and.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: She's fun to be around.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: But Gazelle also gets her role on the show, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: she does it well doing this reunion when Stacy, who
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I love, by the way, when Stacey is so freaking good.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: So when Stacey is congratulating, when dealing happy Eddie and
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: happy Eddie, this out of nowhere my favorite Potomac billin
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and I mean, that's the best confident possible. Giselle Kobe
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Bryant's when I call her, she's like, oh, really, is
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it going to be a happy Stacy A spacey Stacy Archie.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Did you meet with somebody? Didn't you tell them that
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you know you want to start of the show, that
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: you're on the show? They said, who are you? And
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this shit that I want to watch?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I love that. Gazelle said, it has nothing to do
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: They're not talking about me, but I'm still going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: insert myself Stacy gag, Wendy gag and I'm sorry, boys,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I believe Gazelle.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Well, she does it in such a way that she's
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: giving you specifics, right, She's like, you met with a
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: guy and the guy said, why the hell would I
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: believe in you? And you said, because I'm a celebrity. Well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: from watching Stacy, it doesn't seem like Stacy would be
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: like that. But we also saw Stacy go from in
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: her first couple episodes she was a lot tougher and
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: then she fell into this whole like what like this
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: kind of innocent role, Like she figured out her role
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: a little bit later in the season and then stuck
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: with that. So it's like, well, is she really like that?
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Would she do that?
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: And Gizelle just had specific so I believe her too,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: How can you?
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Also, Stacy's defense was like no, no, no, I'm like, oh,
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: that's really convincing. That's that doesn't sound guilty at all.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I just want to say something in defensive Gazelle. Also, honestly,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Gazelle has never been a villain to me. Jizelle has
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: actually always been a protagonist for me. If you go
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: back to watch for Crappin's early and early seasons, back
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: when the show began.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I've always been a Gazelle fan. I'm sorry she is.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Well a fan, yes, but I mean to say that
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Gizelle's never been a villain is crazy.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Cort Well, no, but meaning that like she's not like
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: a perennial villain the way Tamra is like, meaning that
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: given that everyone has seasons where they got villain cuts.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: You know, I like, she's had her villain seasons, but
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: for me, she's just been someone who stirs the pot,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: like she just knows exactly how to like throw something
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: in there, just like this example with Stacey and cause
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: chaos and like make a TV show.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And I've just always loved her for that. I mean,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: she definitely had.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Villainous seasons, you know, everything with Canvas and then you know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: even coming after Wendy and.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Eddie, but like over it's a hardened villain Like.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I just me, she's always been. She's always been heroes.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Like I want to see her in like a Kate,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: you know, she.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: She has like this dying Carol way to think that. Okay,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: there's a difference between a Gazelle villain, a Tama Judge villain,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and a Kenyamore villain, right, so I do think Listen,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Tama Judge is like no fucks to give, Like gold
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I even told Tama, like, bitch, you went way too farmashaty,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: like I like you, but I love you even you
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: made me.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Uncomfortable and I'm your friends.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: She's like, oh my gosh, Okay, Kenya Moore to me
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: is this Kenya Moore is a hilarious Shade assassin and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and she makes it so delicious to watch and you
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: actually laugh at it. The thing with Gazelle, Gazelle has
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a glamorous way of being a villain and a protagonist.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I think she's both. But even watching the reunion, she.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Understands the assignment. And what I love about Gazelle in
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: real life she does not read the comments and that's
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: why she is a formidable opponent to work with. And
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I believe Stacy is lying because if you're telling me, Carlos,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: is it true that you're doing a Watchwork crap Ins
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: live show and stealing their name?
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, No, I would never do that to
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Ben and Rodney?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say no, I'm not doing that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: No, No, where did you hear that from?
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: No?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I would be so like, are you fucking kidding me?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Gizelle, don't start no shit with me, bitch, I would
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: never do that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: You're a fucking liar. You're not trying to come and
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: get me and Wendy. Well, I think Stacey's deal just
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: isn't done yet.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: She's probably talk to something or has talked to somebody
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: about doing it and it hasn't happened yet, so she
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: can't announce it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: So she's like, what do I even say to this?
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I love that the whole thing, because you
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: can't tell someone they can't start their own weed company.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I mean that's just crazy. But the whole thing on
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: this show is you have to talk to Wendy first.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: It can't be another Well she about to enjoy how
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: three wicks when I enjoy my nine wicks?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Stupid?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: You know, like she has to know you have to
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: go through the gate. Yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: I think, by the way, I really feel like Stacy
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: is such a good addition. And I think that this
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: this fall, there was a lot of talk Salt Lake
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: City took up all the space justifiably, so Salt Lake
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: City was amazing and massiful, So obviously there was like
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: a lot of talk about Brittany and Bronwyn and like
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: there are these great new newbies, et cetera. And then
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: then Beverly Hills comes along, You've got bows and Bose
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: is doing a great.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Job, and then I feel it, Yes, Bose.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Is like just fits in seamlessly.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: But I feel like Stacy really deserves special mention because
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: she is doing something that's really hard, which is being
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: a really good new first housewife without being over the top.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: And she also is kind of bringing a different vibe
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: this like persons always clutching her pearls and then very sincere.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: But then you can tell when went against the wall,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: she will come at you and she can do it
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: pretty well.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm like.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Really excited to see if what's gonna happen next season.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: And I think that she's like a really good casting
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: discovery that Bravo has had that really has kind of
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: gone under the radar.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: A grey A grey. Ryan, What are your thoughts on Stacy.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I love Stacy. I think she's just great. I mean
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I could do with that. TJ.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: So whatever that story, whatever that storyline is, I can't
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: really figure out if he's really just the hired you know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: because everyone says that that's kind of the hired boyfriend,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: like a Kenya Walter type situation or Kenya.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know any Kenya relationship really.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Kenny was married to Mark.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: She met Mark in some restaurant, was like you'll do
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: It's like she cast him and then that was it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: He'd lived in Brooklyn the whole time. She never even
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: saw that guy. I mean, listen, and I know that
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: that was an expensive casting. It was an expensive mistake
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: because he went off script. He was like, I want
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: all the money. But so I don't know if this
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: is a high situation, what that is. I don't need
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: him on my TV anymore. But I love her.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I think she's great. I take it you too are
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a TJ fan. Oh he's the worst. He is the
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: absolute worst. Are you tonguing to me at the party?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: J is a pioneer of mesh shirts on.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: He earned that mesh shirt. Though. I'll give him that
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: he can wear it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: He does the push. I'm not going to take his
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: mess away from it. And that's probably the best is
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: the worst? Well at Leasta's shirts are like his personality, transparent, loser,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: my lady alone.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: She deserves better, transparent TJ. That's what you say for
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: transparent J.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: So I want to talk about how a fashion line
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: that could have been the she Buys Your Very Potomac
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: turn into a five to one seed three nonprofit organization.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Didn't he do that?
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: They didn't even bother to file the five oho one
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: c That's the problem.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: What Ronnie, and I.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Mean this, like Stacy, I guess I'm not smart or
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: educated because I really did not in Stacy, I didn't
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: say that just out there be cleare, But look I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: did not, And I still don't understand how a fashion
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: line selling apparel is now a nonprofit organization helping out
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the community. You can't cancer and leggings at the same time,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: You've got to pick a lane.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I cannot buy leggings for brain cancer. I need to
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: know a difference. And also the whole when they had
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: to explain it at the three Union and they just
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: kept going weird liaisons.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: What does that mean? You're not between the community and
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: the charity. No, you're not.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: You're if anything, you're a charity broker. So are they
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: taking money and then taking a cut of that money
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: for the charity?
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: What are they doing? I don't know, it's fish.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like that.
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's so it's like so vaguely sketched out,
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: like they're going to be doing outreach to the community,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: but like what sort of outreach are they doing? Like GNA,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: this athletisure brand is going to be like solving crises
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: on the street or whatever, and like none of it
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: makes sense, and you can tell that you can do
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: you tell they don't even even they aren't taking it
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: seriously because the listener question was like, do you guys
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: even sell things? I went on the site and it's
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: only pictures of you guys, and then Gizell just starts
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: laughing like like, I just I had to do it
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: for the TV show.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Well, what can I say? Community outreach whatever.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Weren't they just doing a drop ship for leggings with
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: their name slapped on them like everybody else. It's not
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: like you actually go out there and make the clothes charade.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Did her whole Alibaba thing? Didn't that sell? Okay, they
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: need to do.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: A collabor Yes, that's right, I said.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: They need to do a collaboration with Prism, the Whitney
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Rose jewelry line.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: They don't white label things. I'm looking at it right now.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: You can get a pink leopard legging right now.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Wait, is the website working?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Uh huh?
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Charay, Yeah.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: But it was and women's health and people and the traders.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: There's even someone to chat with.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: God bless char I'm sad that we don't have Chara back.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: I'm I I feel like, we should just have Charae,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: just to have Charrette.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: At this point, she's like legacy.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: So even if she does nothing, just like have her
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: in a scene in the background, Like, I just feel
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: like you can't keep firing her.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: It's not fair.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: It's not fair.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: And I washed on every season and this I think
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: she's so underrated. She provides good commentary, great confessional bites.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: She's she and she always looks the part, and she
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: knows how to be messy, and she's she's like your Zelle.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: She doesn't give a fuck. Charay reads no comments. Charay
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: just doesn't care. And I love the fact that Charay
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: has this grand this grand du grand yo's delusion that
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I find fascinating to watch and I love it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I just yeah, you got.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: You got face sports, but guy, this this.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Would be a controversial take. M So.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: The way I feel about Charay, I also feel about Mia.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: You know, I've tried to I've tried to fight for
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Mea for years. I love Na.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: I think she's so funny, but she's just gotten to
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: the point where it's like she's bringing out like nothing.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: She even says, you can believe she'll sit there and
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: lie in the same sentence. She'll start one sentence and
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: then lie in the second half of the sentence.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, come on now.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: But the difference is it works with me a little
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: bit more because with Bryn, Brynn lies and then everyone
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: on Rony is like, oh my god, oh my god,
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: this is just I just feel so terrible for her,
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Like there's just so much a you know, like there's.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: It's like what she's been through. And I say, including me,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Like on our our last.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Recap of the season, I was like, guys, I do
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: feel some compassion for But with Mi as she lies
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: and like, oh, you're lying, they just say you're a liar,
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: you're lying.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: You're lying again.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: What we call it the trauma cloak, right, so whenever
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: you're on reality and you're in trouble, you throw on
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: the trauma cloak and nobody can hurt you while you've
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: got that on.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: So it's like, well, but my.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Parent died, and everyone has to be like, okay, okay,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: everybody stop yelling at her because the parent died or whatever,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: like whatever trauma you've got in your arsenal. And Mia
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: tried putting on that trauma cloak three times today and
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: they're in this reunion and they're like, no trauma, cloak denied,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and you're still It's like, but people have different experiences.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: You're not bringing up your right addicted mother. We are
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: going forward with this questioning. I'm sorry, ma'am, you have
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: used that, like.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: We have cloak denied.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: I think we've had like perennial liars on these shows
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: many times before, or people who like there they just
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: have a slippery version of the truth. And I think
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: what's funny with Me is that no one takes her seriously,
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: so it's kind of just funny to watch her just
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: like she lies and it is disproven within like a sentence.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: It doesn't take like five episodes, it takes thirty seconds.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: And like, but you said this, well, actually, when I
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: really meant was this, And I think that, like, I
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: think the show is best when when Me is more
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: of supporting rather than central, because she's so she is
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: such a liar that like you can't really get invested
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: in anything that's happening.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: In her life.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: But when she's like on the side and just being messy,
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: that's my favorite lane from her.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: No, because Me is one of the one people who's
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: interest whose home scenes are interesting because they're so crazy,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Like I love it right because they are so crazy
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: this year, like her telling her kids all that stuff,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: like doing all that stuff in front of the kids,
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: and then sleeping with Ink in front of the kids,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: and then acting like oh on her whole like, well,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Gordon has me like that whole thing every time she
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: didn't get away. She well, guys, Gordon has a real
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: bad case of minia, and it's really hard.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Ronnie, I can't believe you would say that
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: MIA's home scenes are more fascinating than Gazelle's. Carlos, did
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: you know that Gazelle has daughters that are going to college.
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen that, but she has daughters.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: But it will be fun when MEA's kids are old
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: enough like Gazelle's to read her for filth, because.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: That's one of the best things about the show.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Is just I was like, let's have a nice scene
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: with my daughters, and now, like you said, I'll see you.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Admittedly, no one really, Okay, Ronnie, you has a strong
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: point because honestly, as I'm like going around the couch
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: is actually no one has any good home scenes except
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: for Mia. I mean Ashley's home scenes are just like
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: children on kitchen islands and.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Just needs to watch some TV. Leave the man alone.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: How many seasons you need to shoot in one season?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: They need to put a fence up on that island,
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: you know, like it's just like does the kids climb
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: up and they just can't get in there? And just
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: driving me nuts. The children on the kitchen island, that's
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: where food is prepared. But Kierana, by the way, poor Kierana,
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: like nothing's going on over there.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Remember I wore her social worker hat to lunch.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: I'm still mad at Gray this. This beautiful woman wore
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: this polo shirt on National TV for her for him,
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: and then he won't let her like hang out with
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: the group. Excuse me, no, no, you let her hang out.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: She's wearing a polo shirt.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Listen, I We'll get back to be the second k
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I think. I'm no Listen, let's have a real conversation.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: KK to me is an example of sometimes best as
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: being a friend.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: To the show.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think she rose to the occasion of being
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: a housewife. I think she makes a great friend to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the show. I think Karen needs a friend and KK
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: seems to be one of the only ones who really
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: liked her, besides she's the on the Ashley of course,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: But I would say that KK unfortunately did not give
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: anything memorable to to have deserved the position of a housewife.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And this reunion of part one proved my point that sometimes.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Friends need to remain a friend.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look Carlos.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: Last year she had a very compelling storyline of getting
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: diarrhea and no one checking out.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: So checking out we're talking about.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: But you also never know until they get a chance
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: to prove themselves. I just don't know that she even
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: gave the audition to prove herself because she didn't have
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: much last year. But she is gorgeous and she looks
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: so good in her outfits that and people did love that,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: and Bravo does like that, you know, so maybe that's
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: why she got a chance. I think she would also
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: have a better chance with someone that if she was
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: dating somebody that people cared about, because no one is
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: rooting for you to end up with that man. There
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: is not one person in the world watching this show
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: who's like, oh, I hope it works out for her.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Everyone's like, run, run.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: So it's hard to watch that when he's being an
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: asshole and you have to listen to her complain. It's
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: like having that girlfriend who's always complaining, but you're like,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: your man's a piece of shit. Like, how many times
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: do I have to spend my brunch listening to you
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: complain about.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: This same man. Get a better man. I don't want
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: to hear about this man anymore.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: I have a question, Carlos, as a professional in this field,
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: why does Kierana get the champagne flute and not Jesse
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: and Jessee seems like she has more messiness happening and
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: she has a more famous boyfriend fiance.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think listen, it's kind of a Ronnie intimator
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: right in terms of you don't know until that person
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: gets the opportunity. I think when it comes to kk,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: based on what happened last season, the fight with Debra
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: and everything going on, the fans were really rooting for
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: her right based on being assaulted by Deborah allegedly whatever.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: So she was familiar to the audience. You know, the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: audience likes her. We already introduced her this season before.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Let's give her a chance to prove herself. Jazz, in
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: my opinion, deserves to be a housewife.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Her situation is messy.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I had Jazzy in my podcast and Hunty the story
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: between Jazzy the football player his baby mama.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: That entire situation. If you guys haven't listened to it,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: listen what I say to you. It's messy.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: It deserves it deserves its own segment at a reunion show.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: It's that messy. I am invested in that relationship. I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: want the baby mama to come to the wedding and say,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: there's anyone you know?
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I see so much.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: So I think unfortunately because KK had the opportunity the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: prior season as a friend of and she was fine.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: She then got the position. But listen, we all make mistakes.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: You know, we're looking at New York reboot. Mistakes are
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: made sometimes, yeah, and we can bte our wrongs. I
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: think Jazzy deserves to be a flu and I think
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: KK should be a friend.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: That's mine.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I think so too, And you know Jesse also.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: You know what she also has, which I think is
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: very important is she puts on airs. And I think
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: that's very essential for my housewives because remember when she
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: threw a party and she she had it at the
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: Willard in DC and she's like, I'm having a party
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: for for Darius. Yes, And it was a very formal affair.
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: It was very ladies who lunched, and I was like, oh,
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: this is what I love out of my housewives when
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: they think they are fancier than they are. And so
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: she really fit the bill, whereas Kierana's like, I work
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: on MEDSPA and it's like, okay, you.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and my man does want me around you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I was filming the show.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Then then then then you need to leave, Like there's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: like your man interesting or interested and you being on
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the show, so.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: You should go.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: The reason why I think I also love me is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: because I'm Anton inc and Gordon. I. I love this
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: trilog threesome typeecta.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: I just I can't get enough of it.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Do the highest guys, Yeah really, I mean listen, at
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: the very least we've got bonus.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: It's just a sexy It's just a sexy storyline.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Really sexy.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: And also it's the first time we've had a stripper
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: who was who found the rich guy, married the rich guy,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: but stayed with the original boyfriend the entire time. She
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: was married to the rich guy and had kids, but
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: then trick the other guy into thinking that it might
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: be his. I mean, come on, that's that's pretty good.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: We've never had that on them.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: Also helpful, And it was at that that Ray and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: Gordon lunch scene. It was like the first time Bravo
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: was like, we're going to commit to two old men
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: having a scene together.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: Yeahler I was like, I was glad because you know what,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: he deserved that scene. I don't care what anybody says
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: about Gordon. I know that Gordon has a lot of faults,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: but Gordon deserves a moment of being like, wait a minute,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: I'm being called literally crazy every second of this show.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Let me just tell you at least kind of what's
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: going on, even though no one's going to believe him,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: you know, like he has less credibility than me even somehow,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: but I think he deserved that after a whole.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Year well Gordon's menia, I would have been that time,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: but the whole freeway with that because of Gordon's media.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Is Jacqueline going to be Is Jacqueline going to be
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: on the reunion Carlos?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Do we know?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: Because it feels like she should she can expect Okay, yeah,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: because she spent a lot. I just want to get
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: from her whether she yeah, is she going is she
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: going to own that she is MIA's mouthpiece or is
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: she going to do her whole thing of like I'm
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: an independent woman again, because watching her like vacillate between
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: those two polls within like a scene often was so
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: hilarious to me all season.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Like I am not I am not MIAs stooge.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: By the way, Mia says, I'm like her best number one.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing I think, Listen, that's why I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: like bea too, bea broke Jacqueline in Jacqueline is a sweetheart.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: But Jacqueline and MIA's dynamics so.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Weird, and it's so weird you know that.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: It's like lovers are your friends, I you're both in
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: on the I don't get it, but I can't get
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: enough of it because it's something new and I feel
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: like it brought something fresh to this show. Mia obviously
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: is going through a lot because the audience has not
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: loved her a lot this season, and to see her
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: cry go in the dressing room, try to have a
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: conversation with Stacy and and I'm jazzy about the Miami
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: trip with Mia girl.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: She was so caught.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: I was so caught and like that was bad. That
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: was bad.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: But but she wants to leave, like she can't take
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: it like I wanted.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: It was too much pressure for her.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: No, she's gonna leave ten times. She's pulling the center square,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: you know, she's doing the I'm sitting next to Andy
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna leave every ten minutes. So now she's
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: pulling the Shannon but door, I am leave me ten
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: minutes after after this segment, you know, and then she
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: comes anymore, and then she's back. This last time, Meredith
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Mark's just standing up with her patchmina thing with fur on,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: and she's like, I am leaving, and then she flips
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: it around her head and then turns around and keeps
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: yelling at them and sits back down and.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Stands back up and flips it around her head again.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: And meanwhile Seth is like, are we leaving? Like what?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Like what?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: What? What are we doing here?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: That's Murdith's that's her classic movie that I remember was
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: season two or so, when they were at some place
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: in the in the middle of the desert and they
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: were eating dinner outside and she stood up from the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: table and she went in the house and back to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: the table about five different times, like well, I am
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: gonna leave now, I am going to leave.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I will not stand for.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: This Classic Housewives. So Danielle used to do it.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: God, there have been so many Housewives that they've just
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: been like, walk off, Queen's I love it and we
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: are trying it. But people don't care if me it
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: walks off. They're like bye, yeah, the.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: First walk off, it's not gonna be a same go ahead.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I think the first walk off wasn't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: that Ramona singer at the reunion when she didn't want
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: to be on the same stage as Alex McCord because
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Alex McCourt had posed nude one time in her life.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: No, Slutty can't Augustine, I can't be associated.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: No way. I'm sorry, Broda.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: We kind of visioned our TV's Green Sister. Okay, so guys,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: before I.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Let you go, I got to act question because I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: want to see if the three.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Of us are on the same page.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the entire season of OC, we saw the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: entire season of Salt Lake City. I don't think it
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: matters to copy others because I think I think we
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: all can agree that the twenty twenty four through twenty
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: five season of Housewives the best two housewives.
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  Speaker 3: Arguably it's Salt Lake City and OC in terms of
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: their seasons. Is that correct?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I think?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, here is my question.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Out of the OC and Salt Lake City most recent seasons,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: which housewife city deserves the crown as the best season
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: of that year?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: I would have to say Salt Lake City. I mean,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: that's just like I have to say. And I love OC,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: and I loved the whole season of OC, but Salt
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Lake City is just so funny in a way nobody
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: else really can do. I don't think anybody else can
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: do it right now. They're just also wacko, and their
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: beliefs are so out of joint, like and I don't
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: mean they're religions. I mean they're just all over the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: place with their beliefs, you know, like literally what they're espousing.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: You've got Lisa, who's just insanely crazy. Meredith is crazy.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: Heather is like this desperate person, but also she got
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: like the new thin body and now she's like trying
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: to do the I don't know, now she's trying to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: do this soap opera thing but still stuck with her
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: old personality.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just fascinating to watch it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, Orange County had a fantastic season
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: and I will never take that away from it. It
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: was wonderful. And I thought by the time they got
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: to London and there was a fight where it was like,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: you looked into my boyfriend. You you looked you snooped
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: on my boyfriend while he's in the middle of an
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: FBI scandal.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Were going to accuse me of pushing my boyfriend down
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: the staircase.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I thought, how can this is amazing?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But then as amazing as that was, Salt Lake
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: City had the same level of chaos, and I think,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: if I have to put like a differentiator, I think
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Meredith's Bob Mitz Vote was such a perfect episode. It
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: was like a bottle episode all in one place. It
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: gave us taglines, it gave us iconic scenes of Mary
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: trying to get figure out how to walk in. It
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: was also there was charming stuff in it. There was
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: lovely stuff. There was chaos. So if I have to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: tip the scales, it's even though to me, honestly, I
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: don't even need to tip the scales, but I think
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: Salt Lake City wins are you were you setting us
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: up for an Orange County maybe no, no.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: No no no no no no no no no. Okay.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: So this is my response.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I was not going to watch Salt Lake City after
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Genshaw went to prison, because I said, like, Genshaw not
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: being on the show to me is like a season
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: without to reach the julyes, like I want to see Genshaw.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: So then my audience said, there's this woman named Monica,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: you gotta watch the season, and I said, can't.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Watch it, and then we don't have to go back
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, this is like the best
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: TV shop seen in years.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Right, So then.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Monica's gone, So Jim left, the Monica left, and I'm like, well,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not watching the show.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Once again, my audience, there's this bron Win you gotta
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: watch it. You're missing out, and I have Homo, so
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh fine, Ronnie and Benn.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: I bingched like.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Five episodes because I was that much behind, and I said,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: there is something.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: Here's my answer. OC was a ten out of a ten.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Perfectly crafted storylines, perfectly curated.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Moments between like.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Shit Emily getting into it with Alexis at the house
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and like like it was just yes, it was like
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: just like it was like just funny and I barely
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: laughed the whole time. And I'm sorry with Jennifer read
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of Tamra and glam Yeah, with her
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: fucking druid ash jeans and her cute top from Zara,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: and it may offen be like this woman stood up
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: against Tamra. Even Tamar was like, okay, bitch, you did,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Like that's how y'all took it. But even with all
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: of that excellence, I'm gonna tell you what Salt Lake
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: City did that me, as a producer was like, I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: have to give them a crown. The way these ladies
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: are organically funny and organically messy, and how the production
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: of the show plays along these tropes of it being
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: a fucking comedy show and I know all about it.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: I'll speak myself.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I do miss Old Roney because Old Roney to me
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: was like a comedy show.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Like it was it was less drama but more comedy.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: And even if it was drama like your Holland Tonnel Vagina,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that's like funny.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: It's not Duard.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: So new Roney is not funny. I think it's it's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: just a barrel of.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Laughs, so fun Yeah, it's.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Better than like, you know, Hatch, It's.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: The best thing in the world, right anyway, go on,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's and those women are hungry, and and
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: those women not that they're producing themselves. Everybody Stull produces,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: but they do it in a way that it's entertaining.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: And last but not least, that fucking finale where they
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: had to read the meanest text messages. I didn't know
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: whether to laugh to cry. I was uncomfortable, but I
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: was also impressed.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: I listen.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I believe the producers came up with that. I don't
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: think it was other right. I was impressed with the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: producers for saying, how can we top the Monica Garcia moment?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Because that to me was like Los Angeles Times front
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: cover of the entertainment section of the newspaper, and and
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to me, whether or not topped it, it was up
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: there for me, and I felt like with Mary clocked
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: in as well. Yeah, and I love it. I love Brittany.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: It's a it's it's a special show that I do
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: not want them to mess up because it's it's very
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: different than any other housewife on the roster.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: And that's why I saw Lake City.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Shockingly for me, who had to being to catch up
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: with you guys, I Carlos King was very impressed.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: With this season.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just while you were talking, I was thinking,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: they also do the whole staying real friends. I believe
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: that they actually are real friends. I think that the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: main women are bonded in a way and I don't
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: know if it was Jen or just being like the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: smaller show in the in the overall picture, whatever it was,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: they are bonded in a way that I believe that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: they are friends, and so they keep coming back together
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: so they can switch it up where they hate each
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: other one minute, but then they can also be best friends,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: and then they can have a season whether or not,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: and the pairings actually make sense for the show, you know.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: So I think that's a really good, you know, strong
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: reason that they're still doing well.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: And the other thing is, which sort of guess what
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: you were saying before, is that you can't imagine the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: show without any of them. They all kind of like
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: they all pull their weight. And when you look at
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: Orange County, Orange County had an amazing, amazing season, but
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: like you no, Gina and Emily, like they actually had
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: good seasons. You know, they were they got in the mix,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: they were part of it, but you'd like you're not
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: drawn to them, and it's all like when you watch
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: the Sho show, like, actually, they're pretty good on this show.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: They actually have a role. They deserve their oranges. But
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: then when you sit back, you say, Gena and Emily,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure. And where Salt Lake City, It's like
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: feels like everyone has like a vital role in their dynamic.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: That's just like perfect.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: It is very much like they have picked up the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: legacy of old Roney and now it's like now it
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: sits with them.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, agree, agree, agree, so no, so listen, all three
• 1:13:28
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• 1:13:29
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