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Guess who I saw in Toronto! · After Maghrib 🌙

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  Brothers and sisters, Assalam Alaikum, it's good to be back.
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  Season 6. We're here.
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  And before I say anything else, I just need to say what called
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  Rabbi Zidney Alma Ahmed you. Gave me that look.
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  Guys, welcome back to. Good.
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  To be back, should we address the elephant in the room?
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  I don't know as you're not saying anything's changed.
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  Everything's changed. Why is it always elephant?
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  Why can't it be like the lion? Ahmed has to say.
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  Yeah, I like it, man. I hope you guys like it as well.
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  Very traditional old vibes. And we thought, yeah, we're
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  getting old now, so we need to age with this thing, yeah.
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  Which about martial laws getting younger?
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  At this point. Do you know what it is?
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  The game has changed. I think you know who you look
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  like. You know those Iranian Medahan,
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  the short line. Mahdira Soli.
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  Since that's the one. But no, it's good to be back,
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  guys. Hope you guys have had a good
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  break. Do you know Hamdallah, like for
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  the last few months we've been saying we're working on a lot of
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  changes with the set, with productions, with the shows.
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  So it's good to be back and good to be with you here today.
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  We're just going to kind of like really briefly introduce where
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  we've been, what we've been doing, and just to kind of get
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  the ball rolling the set. So for those who don't know,
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  yeah, Samosa has been working hard on it.
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  What's the inspiration? What are we doing here?
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  What we're looking at? Is it like cafe vibes or?
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  Full back story. I don't even know what the back
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  story is, to be honest. But I think over the past four
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  years we've been in the podcast, we sort of came out first with
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  the what would you say the original set was?
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  Like a neon rainforest? Yeah, the RGB vibe, but I think
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  over the past three years there's been so many new
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  productions which have I, I felt like have, I wouldn't say copied
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  our style, but maybe like taking inspiration from our style and
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  I, I wanted to like back away from it.
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  I know. I see adverts right now on
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  booking podcast spaces. They.
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  All on the same now. And they all.
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  Look like aftermath. Nothing to do.
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  I think when we started it was like a fresh idea back then,
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  five years ago. Also podcast, everyone wants to
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  start a podcast now, you know what I mean?
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  Which is cool and you know, we encourage it for to anyone and
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  obviously within the shower while it's good, but.
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  I think our position as afterwards we want to be
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  leading, we don't want to be like everyone else.
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  Charlotte, do you know what it is?
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  So like we obviously there's an ancient Isfahani vibe here, but
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  at the same time we're we also want to bring in like our
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  Western culture. Yeah, I think we've spent like,
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  especially me like in the whole graphic design scene, we, we
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  sort of got bored of the simplicity, minimalistic, all of
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  that stuff. And it, we, we sort of like
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  started doing this traditional stuff nowadays as well.
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  And I wanted to implement that in here.
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  So I think what worked best is like what, what what we've gone
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  for here, which is like the, well, like you said, the
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  Asfahani traditional calligraphy bazaar sort of vibe.
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  I actually got one of our friends to help me with this
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  brother Eunice, who works a lot alongside us and he he has a lot
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  of these bits and bobs that you see on set at home.
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  So I was like, Eunice, I need a towel here.
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  I need AI, need a, he gave me these things.
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  But on the trumpets and the teapots, what are these, these
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  bits and bobs? They made like a huge difference
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  in this. OK.
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  Let me ask you guys what what are your favorite items on the
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  set say? Let me start with you.
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  The chair. The.
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  Chair how comfortable I am I took my shoes off you.
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  Know the problem with these chairs it's like Ahmed said, you
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  you feel guilty wearing shoes on the set now I.
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  Took on my shoes last time. That's when you think about it.
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  It's just a studio in it. It's not that idea you.
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  Know I think every item complements the entire set.
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  Yeah. It's perfect and I I told Ahmed
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  I messaged Ahmed privately like 3 days ago.
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  I said Ahmed, I'm scared, that's why.
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  Ahmed had a talk with me. Had a breakdown.
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  He's like, listen, you need to make sure say that at least have
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  you on the set. Well, I was very worried about
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  the outcome and. I think over time we'll adjust
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  more things here and there until we're fully satisfied with it.
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  But even as it is now, it's beautiful.
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  There's a lot of people who put a lot of work into this.
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  Yeah, yeah, for. Sure, if we want to go through
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  names, I can't name everyone, but it's like St.
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  Watson, help us build the chairs.
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  Hyder Wahidi was here. He painted the room from
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  scratch. Brother Emir Mahash.
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  Brother Emir Sadiq Amar Oka Abusi, my little brother came
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  along one day, St. Mohammed Khazir, who we're going
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  to start a new series with him soon inshallah as well.
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  I don't know if there's anyone else I've missed, but there's so
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  many people and it's it's taken a lot of people and a lot of
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  time to put all of this together.
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  So. So these 8 individuals that you
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  named, are any of them married? Oh my God.
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  I don't think any of them are. Wow.
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  In particular. No, these guys, some of these
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  guys, some of these guys are like half our age.
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  So we need to not half our age less than young.
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  So it. Took eight to 10 men to put this
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  together. Hamdullah.
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  That's amazing. Notice it's the commitment and
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  dedication this is for for the Imam of our time and our biggest
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  aspiration is that one day we are able to give this to him and
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  to make it for him and belongs dedicate for him and this is.
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  Ready to have Emma? Slack was the one on the set
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  with him. Michelle Long.
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  That would be nuts. Episode 313.
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  That's too. That's too far, bro.
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  Yeah. No, but OK.
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  But you didn't give me that. OK.
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  You said the chair. Yeah.
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  These are like built from scratch.
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  Notice that Mustafa got these are actually wood from stairs.
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  Like stair. What do you call it?
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  Yeah. These are stanisters, yeah.
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  So he built with the team, built them, and then got these
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  cushions separately. OK, what's your favorite item on
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  the set? Can I just interject?
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  I really like the colour scheme. Yeah, me too.
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  Yeah. I was worried why?
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  Mainly not because of the layout, but the colours.
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  I was like, you know, the branding we have is like green,
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  purple, white, you know, we've. Given Hasib to rebrand the the
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  the graphics and he's like, I don't think you should step away
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  from the green and the purple. Recommendations to keep?
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  It he hasn't sent it over to us yet By by the time this episode
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  releases, yeah, we'll have the everything, the new intros and
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  the new logos and all of that. Guys, if you are listening right
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  now, drop in the comments. What's your favorite item on the
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  set? What's your favorite thing on
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  the set? Is there something you really
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  like? Is there something that catches
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  your attention the most? Maybe you don't know what
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  something is or says. My own favorite item on the set
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  is, I don't know if you guys can see, but I like, I really like
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  these. What do you call it?
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  The Vintage project, The vintage projectors, All the Vincents.
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  How did they let me order it? Remember really send in the
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  group as I gotcha ordered the. Shadows, the wall lights,
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  there's so many beautiful things that came on our boss picture.
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  There's so many beautiful items here, said what's?
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  Tell me the story about this called anakaya which you're
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  saying at the beginning. Play of the Book.
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  I saw it in Men in Yeah and. Then women in is a.
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  Smila Rahmad Rahim says what called the rugby?
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  Is it near Alma? The translation to that is we
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  asked Allah to increase us in knowledge.
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  I was in Turkey and we were buying some calligraphy pieces
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  for my house. Then I came across this and I
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  was like, you know what? This is the most beautiful verse
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  we can have an aftermath rib because collectively this is all
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  on this journey in Charlotte to increase our knowledge.
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  And it was the most simple thing.
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  And I sent it to the WhatsApp group and you were like, yeah,
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  bring your, bring it. And I was seeing it there really
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  well. It's.
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  Beautiful now that you've and it's a.
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  Reminder actually. It's a good reminder for the did
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  you? No, I didn't even break up.
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  I just thought the calligraphy looks nice.
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  That's what no boys. Perfect for the podcast trying
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  to gain El man matter. Of fun, Charlotte.
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  OK, let's move on, guys, because we don't want to spend too long
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  this season before we get to that.
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  This season, everyone at home, we're going to try and take into
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  account all of the feedback you've given us, strong topics,
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  relevant topics, topics which are current and also timeless.
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  So it's important to be able to do that.
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  In the last, let's say, six months, we've met so many, so
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  many supporters and watch of the viewers from kind of around the
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  world, in the UK and overseas as well, who've supported the work
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  we do. And Hamdallah have been able to
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  engage with us and share their feedback.
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  Yeah, yeah. We've got some distractions
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  behind the camera, but we want to hear from you.
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  So drop in the comments below and let us know what you want to
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  hear, what you want to see, who you want to see on the podcast
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  this season. And we'll do our best to
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  Charlotte to make it happen, boys.
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  As of what we've got supporting such a long list to get through,
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  by the way, what today? No, just generally, yeah.
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  Topic and. Stuff that we want to do this
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  week before. Endless.
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  It's endless and. Then throughout the season.
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  So a week ago, yeah, we got back from Toronto for the Omar
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  conference, which was amazing. Hamdallah, we had a great time
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  and thank you to everyone who made it happen and who came to
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  to drop by and visit us. And the team said what?
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  How did it happen and what did we do there?
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  What didn't we do handle? I think we had the opportunity
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  to firstly meet with so much people, those who have been.
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  Literally. If I'm not mistaken, there was
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  over 5127 attendees in the home of conference.
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  That was that was the figure I saw on the screen, if I if my
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  mind recollection is correct. But the most beautiful thing I
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  had was interacting with those who have been listening to us
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  over the years because we always look at our analytics.
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  Canada is always like in the top five be on Spotify, Apple, even
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  Instagram. You know, the recent episode we
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  just released on on YouTube would say most of our sister
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  Zara Alawi where we discussed pink cherry Islam.
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  If you go to the countries most listen, Canada is #3 OK.
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  So yeah. So like I didn't know we had
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  that big of an audience that TuneIn we can week out to the
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  extent they all knew we were on the season break.
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  So usually when you interact with people, they say things
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  like ah, Mashallah and good, keep up, etcetera.
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  But they were all very particular with this.
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  Well, not even when the season starting again, so that that
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  that going to show me that Mashallah people are actually
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  tuning in and the work that we do here is benefiting and it's,
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  you know, reaching out and to the right audiences.
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  That was for me on a personal level, But as as a team, we were
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  able to handle our, you know, deliver a workshop.
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  We were able to hold a live podcast with two olamar
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  alongside sister Sahara Al Halloween, have a stall network
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  with people. There was so much yeah.
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  So much yeah. There's a lot to mention We.
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  Did a podcast yeah on on as you said, pink cherry Islam, TikTok,
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  imams, gender roles and kind of disputes and liberalistic kind
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  of society we live in. That was the same as fuck 'cause
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  we need sister Zahara Alawi, which is out now.
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  You guys can TuneIn and watch that.
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  We also did a podcast with Shekhar NASA, excuse me, Shekhar
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  Zar NASA which is also online. That was on following Islam on
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  autopilot and kind of blindly following religion, which is
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  also online. So go and check, check that out,
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  share it with your friends and family.
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  Yeah, it was a great time, Hamdullah.
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  Hopefully we can be back again in the future, whether it's
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  there or somewhere else. And yeah, man, it was, it was
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  amazing. It was absolutely amazing.
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  So it watched over. What was your highlight in
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  Toronto? Bro, we got so much sunnish
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  Toronto. I was there like a week before
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  you guys Yeah so I was attending the sheet of voice semi finals.
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  The the turn out for that was unbelievable in itself.
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  Like I think the the the community in Toronto, they
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  really appreciate like high level production.
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  Mashallah the community there already does high level
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  production. Like I met guys from both JCC
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  and Rasul Youth, all amazing. Amazing, amazing guys.
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  Beautiful. Guys, they, they took us out.
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  We, we met so many new people there and I can, I can firmly
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  say that everyone's there like family to us now.
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  A. 100 percent, 100% Too many, too many people there.
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  And I don't even think we gave them enough appreciation while
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  we were there, we were so busy. It felt like we've known them
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  for years. Yeah, some.
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  Just in those few hours that we spent together, yeah.
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  And then them alone, they do amazing majorities productions
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  more lead in their centers. And then for them to see like
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  the London guys there doing share voice and then meeting
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  people like us after Madre War, we met the likes of Mehdi Hassan
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  there, Ose Aman Ashwan, who also like are involved with these
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  things actively. They really appreciate our the
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  the hard work that people do. And I think I think that was the
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  highlight for me. Nice, nice.
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  It was great. It was really good.
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  OK guys, let's move on. Of course we are in the days of
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  Fatima, and it is a season of mourning and grief for us all.
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  And of course we have, you know, the three narrations at the time
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  of recording. We are approaching the second
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  narration as as as of right now. And of course, generally we
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  reflect on the legacy and the lessons of say the Fatima Zarah
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  Salam Alayhi. At the same time, we recognize
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  that Say the Fatima stood out as someone who empowered both men
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  but especially women, while maintaining her hijab.
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  In the day and age we live in now, hijab is under attack.
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  Hijab has always been under attack.
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  It's always been scrutinized, villainized as well.
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  But in secular society, it has become such that people will say
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  hijab is incompatible. Hijab is an obstacle to growth
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  or development of society. And most recently of which in
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  Azerbaijan. Yep, which we all know about and
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  you guys at home would have heard about in Azerbaijan.
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  For those who are unaware, where you have a majority Shia
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  population, hijab has become through.
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  Without explicitly being worded as such, but anything which is
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  seen as an obstacle to secular development in society has been
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  barred and disbanded from being allowed in the educational
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  system, specifically schools. Hijab has become the victim of
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  this. So you're now having detainees,
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  people who are being imprisoned, people who are have been taken
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  by unknown figures and there's no contact with them.
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  There's mass protests in Baku, but also around Azerbaijan and a
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  huge, huge implication on the local region.
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  So for example, in in Turkey, you're seeing, you know, other
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  one and a lot of the ministers talk about hijab, the importance
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  of hijab, as well as, of course, online using protests where we
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  are in London at Azerbaijani Embassy, you're seeing protests
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  in different cities around the world.
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  I want to ask you guys, firstly, how do you feel when you see
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  what's happening to our young sisters and our mothers in
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  Azerbaijan and how it's affecting them and more So what
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  can we do here? Some people say, well, it's
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  irrelevant to us, like, you know, Azerbaijan is so far
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  removed from our lifestyle, we don't know anything about what
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  happens there. What can I do here?
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  Enough said much Taba, if you want to go first.
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  But this reminds me of the first episode.
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  I was on the podcast as well. Yeah, Hem, hem.
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  You got asked me about hijab. No, You know how it makes me
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  feel. Yeah.
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  I mean, we've had the opportunity to be blessed to be
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  raised in the UK. Like I always compare societies
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  in different parts of the world and I always feel wherever I
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  travel and I come back to London and I said not to belittle any
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  community, but when I came back to London, I was telling my
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  family I was like Hamdullah, we were raised in London.
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  Because I feel like we have a higher standard when it comes to
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  like modesty and social hijab and things like this.
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  But in particular, seeing what's happening in Azerbaijan is, is
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  heartbreaking because I always look at the stories and I, and I
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  recall and remember I have daughters, I have sisters, I
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  have a wife and all of these things when it comes to hijab,
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  it's like it's part of our DNA. So when they are affected, when
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  their governments are trying to crack down on them wearing it in
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  certain places, be it in, I don't know, in the banks, in the
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  courtrooms, at school, educational settings, in the
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  workplace, it hurts because I, I, I always feel like, what if
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  that's like my sister and I see them as my sisters.
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  What, like when I see those clips, they're crying, they're
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  upset, and they're being denied education just because they want
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  to be obedient to our last panel.
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  What Allah ultimately was it. People would wish they would
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  pray. They are raised in societies
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  where there is a hijab ban, so they have an excuse not to wear
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  it. But you see little children,
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  little girls going to school and they want to wear it and they
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  refuse to enter. Without it, they can just take
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  off simply and walk in. We see it happening in Austria,
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  we see it happening in France, but no, in Azerbaijan.
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  You have little girls at the ages of my daughters, by the
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  way, refusing to remove the hijab.
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  That makes me so proud, proud of them, proud of them.
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  And it gives me hope that there is this love for hijab still
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  alive today when we look at society and the whole world's
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  attacking our sisters. Take it off so you can, you
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  know, be empowered and achieve and build a career for yourself.
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  No, they are the biggest examples that education does not
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  limit limit you with or without the hijab.
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  On the contrary as well. The irony is, is that they they
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  argue that hijab is a barrier to progressing educationally.
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  If you just look at hijab in and of itself, the concept of hijab,
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  forget the physical yeah, let's go.
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  Hijab in and of itself is 1's protection over themselves.
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  And that means everything, their mind, their body and their soul.
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  So to not corrupt your mind means to fill it with good and
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  to absolve it of anything which is damaging or harmful or
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  whatever. And that includes educationally
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  for our young sisters who wear hijab, they themselves.
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  And you've seen so many of these videos, 11 amazing sister.
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  I don't know, you must have seen that video, She says.
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  Have I ever brought dishonor to the school?
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  Yeah, I ever brought shame to the school, I think.
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  I showed this. Is I've got straight A's, have I
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  ever done anything wrong? She said that by me wearing my
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  hijab, have I not been able to perform and bring bring honour
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  to to this institution. And the fact that this is even a
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  topic of discussions is is crazy.
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  I can't understand it. And these are people who will
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  still say we're Muslim. We just don't want but they're
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  secular Muslims, which is toxic and that's a cancer.
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  Unfortunately, commandment of Allah's panel to Allah is wajib.
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  You know, whether we practice, whether we don't, that's, you
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  know, let them figure that out themselves, as long as you don't
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  bar someone or stop someone else from being.
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  You're also crazy. We post, not us.
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  Someone posted a video from the aftermath panel in Toronto where
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  where Zahra Ali was saying never tell a sister, just take off
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  your hijab if you're not wearing it properly.
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  And the the response is that that video got where it was
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  Muslim sisters attacking her for saying that.
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  It's like I don't want to wear my hijab.
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  Don't don't tell me whether don't advise me on wearing it or
• 19:03
  not. So Muslim sisters.
• 19:05
  Yes, and the the the comments are filled with it as well.
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  Ajit. There were you get.
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  You get like there were. There were ladies who were
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  commenting basically saying I quote.
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  There was someone who I remember commenting a piece of cloth
• 19:18
  doesn't bring me closer or further from the religion.
• 19:20
  And of course there was then a lot of back and forth and
• 19:24
  dispute and whatnot. Ultimately, I feel like you know
• 19:26
  who I asked, I can't remember who it was.
• 19:30
  I asked someone once. I was like, how do I teach hijab
• 19:32
  to my daughter when she gets to that age or even before that?
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  How did you start introducing this and his response to me, I
• 19:38
  think it was a scholar. He said to me it was a scholar.
• 19:41
  I remember he said to me, don't talk about the veil from young
• 19:46
  talk about modesty, the concept of modesty, protecting oneself,
• 19:49
  having and or do you say shut up, like having shame of yours
• 19:54
  over here, higher, higher. And as a man, you have clear.
• 19:58
  So like these kind of things are things which I think
• 20:01
  symbolically people don't understand that the hedgehab
• 20:02
  represents this. They've been taught about the
• 20:04
  headscarf, but not about what's the reason or the symbolism of
• 20:07
  that headscarf. So maybe we need to have.
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  You know what this whole thing exposes, by the way?
• 20:12
  The hypocrisy of those who share woman life, freedom.
• 20:17
  Yeah, 100%, yeah. And if you look around the
• 20:19
  world, they talk about and they always mention Iran and
• 20:22
  Afghanistan and my body, my body, my choice.
• 20:26
  This is exactly the reaction that the sisters who get
• 20:29
  attacked for wearing hijab are saying.
• 20:31
  They're like, we we stood by with like everyone who gets
• 20:34
  oppressed. Yeah, right.
• 20:35
  And now all of these guys who pretend were pretending to do
• 20:38
  activism. Yeah, now they're.
• 20:40
  This is my point. It exposes that it was never
• 20:43
  about freedom. Never.
• 20:44
  It was never about, you know, giving the women the choices.
• 20:47
  Like they're fighting for the calling out the to wear or not
• 20:50
  to wear the hijab, right? Because now we're seeing this
• 20:52
  playing out and they're not talking, they're not protesting,
• 20:56
  they're not going in the street. I don't know if you've seen half
• 20:58
  of them are stupid. They go naked in the street and
• 21:01
  start protesting in Paris and as well as Belgium and Germany, all
• 21:03
  these places. But what I want to know from
• 21:06
  these people, why do you want? Why do you want our Muslim
• 21:10
  sisters to be undressed? That's what I don't understand.
• 21:12
  It's. Like it's a culmination, it
• 21:13
  starts with different things. Hijab.
• 21:17
  Hijab on the head? Hijab is the game then.
• 21:19
  It starts with, you know, change the way you dress and change the
• 21:23
  atmospheres you sit. It's like, what?
• 21:25
  What do you want from our sisters?
• 21:26
  You. Know it's it's a collective
• 21:27
  issue and it's a combination of multiple things.
• 21:30
  One is the fact that pop culture and the civilization generally
• 21:34
  that we are in idolizes and celebrates women who dress less
• 21:39
  or expose themselves more and puts them on a pedestal.
• 21:43
  So that could be celebrities, singers, actresses, anything
• 21:46
  like that. And then beyond that as well,
• 21:49
  there's a narrative which is pushed by like bigots basically
• 21:52
  to say, well, if you see someone dressed like this, then they
• 21:55
  must be backwards. The former Prime Minister of the
• 21:58
  UK, Boris Johnson, he once came on TV and he said Muslim women
• 22:03
  are comparable to post boxes and bank robbers because of niqab.
• 22:08
  And that was at a time where it was.
• 22:10
  He's stocking the fire of Islamophobia in the UK.
• 22:12
  This is in the UK. We're now talking about an
• 22:14
  Islamic country which is majority Shia.
• 22:16
  That's the. You have more Azerbaijanis
• 22:18
  ethnically in Iran than in Azerbaijan and you have Turkey.
• 22:22
  You know, Turkey and Azerbaijan, they say it's as if they're one
• 22:25
  state in two nations. Yeah, right.
• 22:28
  Or one nation in two states or whatever.
• 22:30
  They have this notion Turkey and Azerbaijan are like sibling
• 22:33
  countries, right? And Turkey in themselves are
• 22:35
  like, you know, confused by this.
• 22:38
  I mean, it's a huge issue. I think the only thing I would
• 22:41
  say from my end and to kind of wrap up from my end for our
• 22:44
  sisters who wear the hijab, you are the pride of our community.
• 22:47
  You are the backbone of our families and our societies.
• 22:50
  And never give up, never stop. If anything, use it as a
• 22:53
  springboard to prove you're worth more because you are worth
• 22:57
  more than anyone else or any everything else.
• 22:59
  Those sisters who are on the hijab journey, may Allah reward
• 23:03
  you, guide you and always protect you.
• 23:06
  And those sisters who are already observing full time
• 23:08
  hijab, may Allah make it easy for you and allow you to
• 23:10
  continue on that path. However, don't stop.
• 23:13
  Go out, get your education, proof to people who think you
• 23:16
  can't get a job in a position where people think she can't
• 23:19
  achieve that, you know, while she's wearing hijab.
• 23:22
  Yeah, Go and do something which shows the world that Muslim
• 23:26
  women and particularly Shia women can bring pride to not
• 23:30
  just our community, not just the Omar, but to society at large.
• 23:35
  Because ultimately we are the followers of Minimal Minim Ali
• 23:38
  Salatu Salaam. If we are the followers of a
• 23:40
  minimal Minim and the followers of say, the Fatima Zahra Ali
• 23:43
  Salatu Salaam, then we will do our absolute best to perform the
• 23:47
  highest in every single category in every industry of society and
• 23:51
  show people that we are people who take performance seriously.
• 23:56
  You know, and Dunya, and of course, ultimately for Akala,
• 23:58
  this is what we stand for. So don't ever let it drag you
• 24:01
  down. And of course, if you've got
• 24:02
  ideas in the comments for all of us, how we can support the
• 24:06
  cause, support our sisters, share it with each other because
• 24:10
  this needs to be done at the bare minimum.
• 24:11
  We should be sharing the protest posts, you know, we should be
• 24:14
  sharing stuff on our social media.
• 24:17
  This is the bare minimum on Instagram stories, on TikTok,
• 24:21
  you know, with our friends and families, you know, very.
• 24:23
  Similar cases what we're seeing in halach as well, so I don't
• 24:26
  know too much about it. So hardly smiling the.
• 24:29
  Jafferi Law. The Jafferi.
• 24:30
  Law is is women are fighting for their rights to their daughters.
• 24:34
  Yeah, crazy. I think this needs a maybe
• 24:37
  someone who've a bit more experienced in the topic to
• 24:39
  discuss this, but it just shows that women in in our home
• 24:43
  countries are still fighting for their rights.
• 24:46
  But, you know, just, I think just two minutes on this Jafari
• 24:49
  law thing. I think for Iraqis being living
• 24:54
  in Iraq, majority Shia country, the fact that you can apply the
• 24:59
  Jafari law in your marriages and child custody and women's
• 25:04
  rights, there's no problem with that.
• 25:08
  If you live in Iraq and you say you are Shia and you have a
• 25:11
  problem with the Jafari law, you got a problem with God.
• 25:14
  Yeah, honestly, how can you be Shia?
• 25:18
  And now you know, we lived how many years under Saddam and
• 25:21
  Malone? Yeah.
• 25:22
  It doesn't make sense. And we were like, we want our
• 25:24
  rights, you know, we're a Shia majority country want to want to
• 25:28
  be, you know, ruled by the Quran and the Sunnah of Rasoolallah
• 25:32
  and the teachings of the albeit and I have a problem.
• 25:35
  Why why they have a problem now, but but I just two or three
• 25:37
  things. The majority of the arguments
• 25:40
  happening is based on marriage, which is, for example, women,
• 25:44
  they feel like when they get divorced on the Jaffrey Law,
• 25:48
  they don't get rights like they do in the UK, for example.
• 25:51
  So what are they comparing it to?
• 25:53
  They're comparing it to secular societies and societies that
• 25:56
  have no religion in essence. But the Jaffrey law protects the
• 25:59
  religion. It's within the Sharia, like
• 26:03
  there's no way coming out of it. And by the way, from what I
• 26:05
  understand it, when you do get married in Iraq, you can choose
• 26:09
  whether you want it done on the Jaffrey law or on the Hanifi law
• 26:14
  or on the Democratic Republic of Araq law.
• 26:18
  So you can choose by the way, but once you commence that
• 26:22
  marriage on Jafari law, anything that happens after it is based
• 26:26
  on Jafari law, the child custody, the divorce, the rights
• 26:30
  for the husband and the wife, etcetera.
• 26:31
  So the people have a problem today with Jafari law and Harak
• 26:34
  A Shia then I Shia understand. But if you are a Shia and you
• 26:37
  got a problem, whether you got a problem?
• 26:38
  With God, ultimately the, the, the, the underlying thing here
• 26:40
  is education. So whether it's education,
• 26:42
  Azerbaijan or in Iraq or in the UK or anywhere else, without
• 26:46
  education, society lacks oxygen. You know, people have no
• 26:49
  literacy. You are the oxygen.
• 26:51
  Have you ever said you, you are? Until Nefes won't tell Howa.
• 26:55
  Until Nefes say. Mujtaba what?
• 26:57
  The rest of the words until shames went to boa.
• 27:00
  Sorry, I've heard. It it's beautiful.
• 27:02
  Yeah, Yeah, man. But education is everything.
• 27:06
  Education is everything. And I think it's.
• 27:08
  And it goes right to what can. Say cyclic, wouldn't it?
• 27:12
  But obviously the elements and this is something we should all
• 27:16
  inshallah work on. All right, guys, I think we
• 27:18
  should call it a day. Yeah.
• 27:20
  It's been a good intro, you know?
• 27:21
  Idea just because I'm one. It's a fame in episode.
• 27:23
  That's a fame in 28. Minutes 39 because.
• 27:26
  It's a it's a teaser to what's going to be upcoming in Season
• 27:28
  6. I think there's a lot.
• 27:30
  There's a lot, a lot of ideas. Mashallah, Ahmed.
• 27:32
  Talks a lot so. I'm the guy who's trying to end
• 27:35
  you. Go you, carry on in it.
• 27:37
  Start talking about you. Know we were in the Toronto
• 27:40
  podcast and he mentioned something about talking a lot.
• 27:48
  You talk a lot. No, no, no.
• 27:49
  I said something. I said something about talking a
• 27:53
  lot or something. And I looked at the other way
• 27:54
  because I knew he's thinking, oh, it's so funny, man.
• 28:00
  Your wife that looks at you like Ahmed looks at Ali.
• 28:02
  Yeah, straight get say what's about wife I need?
• 28:06
  To print on a T-shirt. All right, guys, inshallah we'll
• 28:08
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• 28:09
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• 28:11
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