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Dave Williams - Taxpayer Protection Alliance · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's seven oh six at fifty five karros De Talk station.
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas always happy to see this man on the rundown.
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Speaker 1: He is Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance, looking
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Speaker 1: out for where they spend your money and they rarely
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Speaker 1: do a good job of it protecting taxpayers. Dot org
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Speaker 1: is where you find Dave and the crew at Taxpayer
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Speaker 1: Protection Alliance. Welcome back to my friend Dave Williams. It's
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Speaker 1: always great having you on the fifty five Karosee Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian, and you know what a day this
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Speaker 2: is going to be. We start out with this and
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Speaker 2: then end with the State of the Union to it's
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Speaker 2: quite the book end.
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Speaker 1: Well it is quite the bookend, but I guarantee you
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Speaker 1: our discussion, as long as I might want it to go,
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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot more abbreviated than the
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Speaker 1: State of the Union address. You don't think Trump's going
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Speaker 1: to run over time, do you?
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So last night I was on Twitter.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I was, and Trump came
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Speaker 2: out and said this is going to be a long speech.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, oh no, he gave us a heads up.
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Speaker 2: Yes he did. He said I have a lot to
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Speaker 2: talk about and that's not good.
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Speaker 1: No, no, you say at I don't truv love him
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Speaker 1: hate him. He does have a tendency to ramble on
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Speaker 1: and he does go off script quite often. Do you
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Speaker 1: think he was referring to the actual script being extra
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Speaker 1: long or this is uh? Are his extra comments part
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Speaker 1: of the reason he gave us a warning at a time?
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Speaker 2: Probably his extra comments because I think he's still smarting
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Speaker 2: from the tariff ruling on Friday, so that's probably top
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Speaker 2: of mind. And you know he may spend a lot
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Speaker 2: of time on that.
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Speaker 1: Well, what a pointless waste of time for him to do.
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Speaker 1: That is going to be critical the Supreme Court's analysis,
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Speaker 1: which you know, for anybody who really appreciates West Virginia
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Speaker 1: versus EPA and this whole Major Questions doct room, which
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Speaker 1: goes a long way to eliminate the deep state and
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Speaker 1: the administrative state. That was a blessing beyond blessings from
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. It's the exact same principle upon which
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Speaker 1: they ruled his his tariffs. We're not constitutional. There is
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Speaker 1: nothing in the International Emergency Economic Powers Act which allows
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Speaker 1: him to use the emergency powers he declared under that
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Speaker 1: for purposes of increasing taxes or levying tariffs on other countries.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing in there that even mentions taxes or tariffs
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Speaker 1: or taxes are tariffs.
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Speaker 2: Dave, Dave No, and Brian, I'm glad you brought up
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Speaker 2: that West Virginia case because you're right, this really helped
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Speaker 2: dismantle the deep state, the agencies and really agencies being
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Speaker 2: able to just dictate what they want. And you know,
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Speaker 2: you look at the two cases right, practically the same
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. These folks are looking at these issues on
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Speaker 2: a constitutional basis, right, you know, And there's going to
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Speaker 2: be difference of opinion within the halls of the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 2: But you know, you can't embrace one Supreme Court decision
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Speaker 2: and then trash another one, because you know, this is
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Speaker 2: just how it works. And you know what happened on Friday,
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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, took it didn't take any courage
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Speaker 2: for the Supreme Court because nowhere in the Constitution doesn't
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Speaker 2: talk about terrorifts and the president being able to do this.
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Speaker 2: And thank god, because Congress needs to get involved in this.
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Speaker 2: If you are going to raise attacks on the American consumer,
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Speaker 2: the American public, Congress has to be this and listen.
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Speaker 2: I think Speaker Mike Johnson has done an okay job, right.
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Speaker 2: This is really where he's dropped the ball is not
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Speaker 2: bringing tariffs to a vote on the House floor for
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Speaker 2: the past two or three years.
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Speaker 1: It's very frustrating, well it is, but I think I
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Speaker 1: share everyone's exasperation on the dysfunction that we have with
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Speaker 1: Congress generally. I mean, I personally have not witnessed a
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Speaker 1: phenomenon like this Trump arrangement syndrome, which I'll call it
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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that that is obviously a
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Speaker 1: biased way of looking at it, but it's just become
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Speaker 1: almost a joke in and of itself that literally, anything
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump wants, the Democrats immedia are going to say
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Speaker 1: no to it, even if something they traditionally were in
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Speaker 1: favor of. I mean, how many Democrats are on record
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Speaker 1: wanting strong and secure borders and deporting like the deporter
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Speaker 1: in chief Barack Obama seeing it doing victory laps over
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Speaker 1: the number of people he deported from this country. Fast
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Speaker 1: forward to five minutes ago. In time you got Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump doing the same thing they were praising Obama doing,
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Speaker 1: And now it's the worst possible a breach of morality
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Speaker 1: that you could ever possibly come up with.
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Speaker 2: And Brian tax cuts. You have a lot of middle
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Speaker 2: class families that are getting a bigger tax cut because
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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. Do the Democrats not want that? Do
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Speaker 2: the Democrats not want more money in the pockets of
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Speaker 2: the people that need it the most? So you're right,
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Speaker 2: This Trump you know, Trump arrangement syndrome is ridiculous. And
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Speaker 2: so I've been reading that a lot of Democrats now
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Speaker 2: won't show up to the State of the Union, which
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Speaker 2: is they're acting like spoiled brats. If you are a
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Speaker 2: member of Congress and you having an opportunity to be
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Speaker 2: at a State of the Union live to watch this unfold,
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Speaker 2: why would you not go? Regardless of whether you agree
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Speaker 2: or disagree with who's giving the State of the Union.
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Speaker 2: This is not something that ever, I mean, very few
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Speaker 2: people have an opportunity to witness this live right and
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Speaker 2: to act like a spoiled brat, and because you don't
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Speaker 2: like what he's going to say is to stay home.
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Speaker 2: I think if they really have lost the script here, man,
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Speaker 2: well it is you know.
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Speaker 1: I have this mental image of you know, the four
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Speaker 1: year old and holding his ears and closing his eyes
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Speaker 1: and going da da da da da because they don't
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Speaker 1: want to hear the words that are coming out of
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Speaker 1: his mouth. The words are going to come out of
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Speaker 1: his mouth like it or not. And I think it's
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Speaker 1: a it's an obligation owned to your constituents. You're going
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Speaker 1: to show up there and you know, maybe express some descent.
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Speaker 1: People stand up and clap. People also express descent based
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Speaker 1: upon whatever comes out of the of the president's mouth
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Speaker 1: during the State of the Union.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, this is obviously, you know, historic. Every
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Speaker 2: State of the Union is historic. And why would you
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Speaker 2: miss that? And why would you, you know, act like
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Speaker 2: a petulant child and and miss that. There are so
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Speaker 2: many most of your listeners right now be like, I
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Speaker 2: would love to be in that room. I would love
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Speaker 2: to sit there and watch this thing unfold. But you
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Speaker 2: have self entitled democrats who are going to stay home.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, stay at home, all right? What do you expect
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Speaker 1: from this, Dave? I I know Donald Trump every time
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Speaker 1: I've heard him talk, you know, and he does long
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Speaker 1: winded press conferences as well, which is obviously a refreshing
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Speaker 1: change from the absence to Joe Biden running his presidency
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Speaker 1: from the basement somewhere in some bunker. But he does
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Speaker 1: have a tendency to repeat himself over and over again,
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Speaker 1: and he loves pointing out all his accomplishments, but he
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Speaker 1: goes on ad nauseum again. Repetition is a problem, I
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Speaker 1: think for the president. Is that really kind of what
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Speaker 1: we're going to expect tonight?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm concerned. This is an election year and the
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Speaker 2: House has a very narrow majority. The Republicans have a
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Speaker 2: very narrow majority in the House, and I think the
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Speaker 2: president is going to lay out some very populist policies.
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Speaker 2: We've saw some previews of that, you know, in the
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Speaker 2: past year, whether it's capping interest rates for credit cards.
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Speaker 2: You know he's going to double and triple down on tariffs,
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Speaker 2: we know that, right is he going to talk about
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Speaker 2: refund checks to people And whenever you hear the work
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Speaker 2: of investment, replace that with spending. Yes, an investment is
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Speaker 2: a spending item, and you know we're going to tally
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Speaker 2: up all of the spending and figure out exactly how
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Speaker 2: much more he wants to spend, because that's what presidents do.
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Speaker 2: Democrats do it, George Bush did it. Republicans across the board.
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Speaker 2: This is what they do during the State of the Union.
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Speaker 2: They talk about these investments and that means more spending.
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Speaker 2: What you won't hear, Brian is about doge. It's about
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Speaker 2: cutting spending, cutting wastefile spending that for some reason has
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Speaker 2: gone out of the lexicon of the Republicans' brains. And listen,
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Speaker 2: it was never in the Democrats' brains to cut spending.
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Speaker 2: At least the Republicans thought about it for about five
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Speaker 2: or six months. But we will not hear anything about
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Speaker 2: dose because that's dead. And it's just it's frustrating that
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Speaker 2: we have an opportunity. The Republican Congress has an opportunity,
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Speaker 2: and they're not taking it. When it comes to the
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Speaker 2: deficit and debt and spending.
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Speaker 1: Well, there is no doubt in my mind that is
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Speaker 1: something that should be a number one topic as I'm concerned. Dave,
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Speaker 1: and I understand the populist kind of thing, and I
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Speaker 1: can go back to the fact that Donald Trump never
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Speaker 1: was a you know, a diet in the world Republican.
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Speaker 1: He kind of did what is good throughout his entire life.
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Speaker 1: For Donald Trump, and I understand that. I always say,
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Speaker 1: the fool is the one who's not looking out for
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Speaker 1: his own best interest. So he's a horse of a
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Speaker 1: different color when it comes to long term politics. But
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Speaker 1: he's thrown out all kinds of populist policies that Democrats
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Speaker 1: would otherwise suggest, like Fanny and Freddie Mack purchasing two
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Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars in mortga back mortgage backed securities, his
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Speaker 1: proposal to force credit card companies to put a ten
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Speaker 1: percent cap on interest rates. His idea of preventing institutional
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Speaker 1: investors from buying real estate. I mean, these are not
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Speaker 1: traditional free market conservative ideas. Dave Williams, No.
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Speaker 2: And Brian you talk about the institutional you know, folks
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Speaker 2: buying the property one percent. They own one percent of
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Speaker 2: housing in this country. Yet he wants to have an
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Speaker 2: executive order stopping that. So you know, all these problems
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Speaker 2: are always over blown and it's always a government that
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Speaker 2: has to come into the rescue and fixing. Well, first
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Speaker 2: of all, there isn't a problem with this. Again, one
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Speaker 2: percent of homes in this country are owned by institutional investors.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it as high as too, but you're right,
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Speaker 1: it's a very very low percentage. It is not a
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Speaker 1: problem screaming for a solution in other words, Dave, and
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Speaker 1: it's not the what is driving the increase in cost
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Speaker 1: of real estate. I think we figured that one out.
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Speaker 1: It was COVID and people not going to work anymore
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Speaker 1: and having a desire for a place that's hell and
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Speaker 1: gone away from the Democrat underwater, you know, regulatory overreached
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Speaker 1: states and cities that they lived in. Dave Williams, I
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Speaker 1: want to go back to your doge comment when you
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Speaker 1: come back, and also get some more insight where you
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Speaker 1: think these president should with the state of the Union.
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Speaker 1: But I just saw an interesting breakdown of what's going
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Speaker 1: on in Minnesota, and I think this is something that
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Speaker 1: we should all scree screaming, all of us Democrats are
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Speaker 1: Republicans alive, screaming from the top of our lungs to
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Speaker 1: stop this from ever being able to happen again. It's
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Speaker 1: a night. What's going on? Fifty five KRCD Talk Station,
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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, Brian Thomas with Dave Williams in the Taxpayer
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Speaker 1: Protection Alliance joining the program next Tom Sawastowski from We
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Speaker 1: the People Convention. We're gonna get his impressions on what
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Speaker 1: he wants from the State of the Union, but also
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Speaker 1: how is it that the Republican Party here in the
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Speaker 1: state of Ohio has endorsed candidates before the primaries. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: back to Dave Williams, I mentioned this article on the
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Speaker 1: air the other day, Dave Williams, and you probably get imprimus.
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Speaker 1: The publication from Hillsdale College. Scott Johnson's reporting on the
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Somali fraud scandle is in depth, its eye opening,
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Speaker 1: and it should enrage people of all political stripes, given
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Speaker 1: the literally billions of dollars that were literally stolen from
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Speaker 1: the American taxpayer because they just don't care about following
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Speaker 1: the money. In Minnesota, they made it easy. They greased
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Speaker 1: the skids for companies to create fictitious companies to allegedly
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Speaker 1: do something for the people, and then create subsidiary companies,
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Speaker 1: and they rifled money back and forth because they claimed
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Speaker 1: to be serving genuine people. The businesses were set up
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Speaker 1: to serve no one. They created fake people and claimed
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Speaker 1: to be feeding them and clothing them and providing services
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Speaker 1: for them, all on the American taxpayer at all. This
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Speaker 1: is federal money that's being filtered right through into these
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Speaker 1: Somali organizations. This is criminal.
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Speaker 2: This is criminal. This is billions of dollars in one
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Speaker 2: state alone. I know this is happening in other states.
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Speaker 2: We all know that it's happening in other states. And
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Speaker 2: let's look at the discussion that we had last year
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Speaker 2: with the one big, beautiful bill and the Medicaid work requirements.
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Speaker 2: Everyone's arms were off saying, oh my gosh, I can't
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Speaker 2: believe that you're cutting Medicaid, that you're requiring people to actually,
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Speaker 2: you know, look for work, and you know there's no
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Speaker 2: waste fraud abuse in Medicaid. And then you know, a
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Speaker 2: couple months later, we see just in one state was
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Speaker 2: an eight or nine billion dollars in this in this fraud.
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Speaker 2: And this translates to know so much more across the
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Speaker 2: rest of the country, and we know that this is happening.
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Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing is. And it didn't take an
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Speaker 2: auditor and inspector general. This was a YouTuber. This was
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Speaker 2: some sort of social media guy that did this. Was it?
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Speaker 2: Nick Shirley uncovered this, and I mean talk about citizen journalism.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Nick Shirley uncovered it, which was a
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Speaker 1: great thing. It opened up a lot of people's eyes.
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Speaker 1: But he's not the first person to do it. Back
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Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, a local reporter named Jeff Ballion he
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Speaker 1: reported on daycare fraud. Then he also did it in
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. And there was another guy, Jay Coles, who
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Speaker 1: is also a local reporter. He went to two of
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Speaker 1: the ten sites that Shirley visited prior to Shirley visited,
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Speaker 1: I mean, found one site guilty of ninety five violations,
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Speaker 1: including no records for sixteen children between twenty nineteen and
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Yet in spite of that reporting and
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Speaker 1: everyone got the report on it, nothing happened and the
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Speaker 1: money continued to flow. That's the insult. And you know why,
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Speaker 1: Dave Williams. They cite it's the concern over claims of racism.
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Speaker 1: And I was talking about this the other day. What
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Speaker 1: a bunch of barbarous streis that is. If this was
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Speaker 1: Italian mob activity, Dave, if this was mobsters as in
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Speaker 1: organized crime as we traditionally understand it, you know, godfather
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Speaker 1: level stuff, they would be claiming that the mob has
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Speaker 1: done this. Do mobsters represent all people in the Italian
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Speaker 1: American community or Italians generally, Dave? We know the answer
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Speaker 1: to that is no. Are every single member the Somali
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Speaker 1: community in Minnesota engaged in fraud, I'd venture to say
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Speaker 1: probably not, if not definitively no, not everyone's involved. What
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Speaker 1: we're focusing on are the criminals within that given community.
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Speaker 2: It's just hmmm, yeah, Brian, this is about virtue signaling,
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Speaker 2: not about trying to save tax pay virtue signaling. Yes,
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Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, And you know they've been hiding behind this
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Speaker 2: for for years. And you mentioned the twenty thirteen I
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Speaker 2: didn't even know that that report. You know, that investigation
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Speaker 2: happened and that so this is news to me.
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Speaker 1: But twelve years read in Primus, Well, you know, it
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Speaker 1: actually goes back to twenty fifteen when they found out
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Speaker 1: that the smaller community or the yeah, the smaller community
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Speaker 1: up there was a source of ISIS recruits. The FBI
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Speaker 1: opened an investigation, they found and convicted a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of them, and that kind of spilled over. Once they
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Speaker 1: got rid of that threat, you know, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: they're all joining ISIS. Then it's billed over. They figured
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Speaker 1: out how to build the welfare system, and this is
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Speaker 1: an in depth analysis of it, which is why I
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Speaker 1: wish everyone would read this article. Im Primus, January twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six, Volume fifty five, number one article by Scott Johnson.
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Speaker 1: It's the only thing printed in the flyer. Read it.
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Speaker 1: It's eye opening, and it's frightening, scary, and it really
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Speaker 1: quite frankly, angers me, as you can tell by the
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Speaker 1: tone of my voice. Dave Williams, And what's.
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Speaker 2: The follow up? Ran? Exactly, follow up and make sure
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Speaker 2: this doesn't happen again. You know, state officials, federal officials
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Speaker 2: have such a short attention span is that they're happy
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Speaker 2: to talk about it for a week, but there will
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Speaker 2: be no follow up to this whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: Which is why I think it's it's by the fact
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Speaker 1: you don't think it's going to be brought up the
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Speaker 1: DOGE efforts. That's exactly what should be highlighted. You know what,
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Speaker 1: if I was Donald Trump, I take five to ten
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Speaker 1: minutes my time, I would read verbatim this article and well,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the American people waking up to this challenge,
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Speaker 1: this reality. They don't care once the money's been sent
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Speaker 1: out the door. They just seems to be quite happy
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Speaker 1: with the fact that it's being stolen in funding the
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Speaker 1: Somali community and even terrorists Al Shabab got some money
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Speaker 1: out of this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, outrageous and listen. I really hope, you know, he
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Speaker 2: does talk about waste, rotten abuse tonight. I hope that
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Speaker 2: there is some sort of fiscal message other than spending
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Speaker 2: more money. I hope they're in and you know, tax reform.
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Speaker 2: So here's kind of a take on the He's suing
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Speaker 2: the IRS for the leaked records. It's the ten billion
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Speaker 2: dollar lawsuit against the IRS. I am supportive of this
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Speaker 2: lawsuit except for the ten billion dollars. The IRS has
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Speaker 2: to be held accountable for what they are doing for
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Speaker 2: leaking information. Now should Donald Trump or nonprofits get the
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Speaker 2: ten billion? Now, this is not about the money, It's
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Speaker 2: about holding people accountable at these agencies. We've seen this
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Speaker 2: for the past ten fifteen years where the IRS leaks information.
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Speaker 2: Lois Lerner she refused to give nonprofit status to right
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Speaker 2: wing to conservative groups. This has been ongoing at the
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Speaker 2: IRS and nothing is ever done, No names are ever
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Speaker 2: released as to who did this, No one is fired.
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Speaker 2: So if this lawsuit does anything, I hope it brings
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Speaker 2: that out and we find out who is responsible for
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Speaker 2: this and they get fired.
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Speaker 1: Amen. Dave Williams, the Taxpayer Protection Liance, find his page online.
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Speaker 1: It's protecting taxpayers dot org, bookmarket follow what they have
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Speaker 1: to say. I appreciate what you're do